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What is a good RPG that has a "old school feel" (dungeons, undeads, goblins, sword and sorcery; not like skyrim or that shit) but is actually modern in the mechanics? (no isometrics like baldur's gate) and a classical
class structure (healer, melee, rogue, magic-user)
No Grimrock/Dark Souls/Roguelikes

Bonus if it doesn't weight too much.

Does something like this exist?
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>No isometric

That eliminates lots of options...
DivOS just came out and is fucking fantastic, why not play that?
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Amalur.
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What fucking genre do you want, man? Turn based? Action? One with a party or a solo adventurer?
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>>253323881
demon's souls :^)
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Dungeons and Dogmas.
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Dragon Age: Origins
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>>253324294
Ok, I'll give isometrics a try. Can you give me some options? No too outdated, I want recent games IF POSSIBLE.

>>253324398
I'm looking for a setting more than a genre per se, both turn-based or action are equally good. Not pokemon-styled games tho.
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>>253324721
Aight, listen up.

Go get Divinity Original Sin.
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>>253324294
What's DivOS?
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>>253324583
>spoiling it as if Origins was a bad game
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>>253324786
>>253324856

turn based combat that feels interesting, lots of exploration, silly writing and a great OST.

And also, it has that classic setting you're looking for.
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Dragons Dogma.
Fairly standard fantasy setting with dungeons and everything, strict classes, a party system and modern openworld gameplay.
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>>253324958
Looks cool, I'll give it a try
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>>253325012
I wish Dogma was on PC as well.. Why is Capcom so fucking stupid?
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Witcher 1
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>>253324903
People usually to call me a faget when I say DA:O is a bretty gud game, so I was cautiously spoilered it
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>>253325163
My guess is that the don't want to invest money in an unknown IP
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>>253325319
faggot
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>>253325314
most boring combat ever
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>>253325319
Mostly parrots, confused by the mutual hate of DA2 and rainbow Bioware.
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Ever play "Shining in the Darkness"? It's for Sega Genesis, I think it has aged well.
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Arx Fatalis
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>>253325464
I thought it was alright. I liked that you get new animations every time you level up your swordmanship.
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>>253325378
But they did it with Remember Me after, and it sold even less than DD.
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>>253325654
>Arx Fatalis
I don't know what this shit is but as soon I've seen that pic I came
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>>253324324
Amalur was pretty good. Never finished it though.

Divinity 2 was fun, I enjoyed it quite a bit. Usually gets pretty cheap on Steam too.
Haven't got around to Divine Divinity, hear it's good though.
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Drakensang.
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>>253325825
>Arx Fatalis (lat. "fatal fortress") is set on a world whose sun has failed, forcing the above-ground creatures to take refuge in subterranean caverns. The action in Arx takes place in one of these large caves, where inhabitants from all races such as Trolls, Goblins, Dwarves, Humans, etc. have made their homes on various levels of the cave. The player awakens inside a prison cell and, after making his escape, eventually discovers his mission is to subvert and imprison the God of Destruction, Akbaa, who is trying to manifest itself in Arx.

It's good, play it.
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>>253325546
I never really understood the muh SJW bullshit that's popped up all of a sudden. The reason that DA2 sucked had nothing to do with gay romance or anything, but that's what the morons cling to
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>>253325662
Maybe they just hate money alright
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>>253326080
It's the current hot topic when it comes to Bioware.
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>>253325825
Don't forget to install Arx Liberatis on top of it.
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Kings Quest VI
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Not OP, but looking for quite the same. Is Might & Magic X any good?
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>>253323881
Goblet Grotto! GOBLET GROTTO!
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>>253326080
Yeah, what is the problem to say the game is objectively bad with shoehorned faggotry on it?
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>>253326621
OP and I was checking that game too. is it good?
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arx fatalis of course
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>>253326336
thanks mate.
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Wizardry Online
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>>253327098
Fuck no, that game is terrible.

>Muddled and shit graphics
>Mobs spawn so fast that even a party of two can't clear a damn dungeon without spending the rest items and just generally wasting money.
>Dungeons are linear and the traps are easy as fuck to spot
>Some named mobs spawn so fast that they can aggro you right after killing them
>XP in parties is absolute bullshit
>PVP is okay, though

All of this was from that beta they had, but I was burned so badly that I never came back.
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>>253326080
The SJW shit is not from the DA2 days.
It's a new development, and what EA has been using as a shield to discredit valid criticism from ME3 onwards.
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>>253326271
The whole LGBT thing is not a hot topic to anyone actually familiar with cRPGs or Bioware games. Gay and bisexual characters have been around for decades. Only recently however, after Bioware stopped making games like BG and started making schlock that appeals to cod babbys like Mass Effect does this 'issue' crop up.
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>no one listed Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
>no one
Yeah, op, go for that
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Dragon's Dogma gives me Diablo 2 feels and fits the bill in all of your request.

Best dungeons ever!
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>>253327098
what are you doing nigger
Wizardry 8
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>>253324583
>>253324903
DAO was mediocre
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>>253327746
>Not calling it Sir Kicksalot in the land of conveniently placed spike traps

Thanks, anon. I was getting tired of that fucking joke.
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>>253327746
Fuck, anon.
Now I feel bad for missing it.
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>>253328152
How would you know, you never played it.
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>>253328403
It's an absolutely average babby's first fantasy rpg.
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>>253326213
They're a just a very special brand of "fucking stupid".
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>>253328152
DAO was fucking baller. I sank so many hours of my life into that damn game after I pirated it. That I can never replay it again.

>TFW I banged both Morrigan and Leliana on my first playthrough without knowing you could do that
>TFW there were no consequences to it
>TFW when I have no face because I'm at work.
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>>253328689
Sure, anon.
Now go shitpost somewhere else.
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>>253323881
Try the Divinity games
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>>253327746
I hate dark messiah, sorry.
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>>253326080
It's how EA and Bioware blanket themselves from any kind of criticism. So people naturally got annoyed at that shit
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>>253328858
>calling an average game average
>shitposting
I sure hope you get paid for those posts.
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>>253328276
S-sorry anon, I didn't mean to sound like a jerk.
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>>253326621
>>253326773
I played it, it's pretty fucking great, and the exact kind of "generic" you're looking for.
Big world, cool dungeons, entertaining and quick combat...

However- it's pretty badly optimized. I'd say pirate it first to see how it runs on your computer.
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>>253329038
>We only won the worst company of the US award because we actively support the LGBT community and all the votes came from haters

That was one of the hillarious official statements I've read
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>>253328152
DA:O was mediocre. But what you're saying is akin to calling a glass of tap water in a desert mediocre water. Sure, it's true. But it's been so many years since an average crpg came out, it was a breath of fresh air.
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>>253329040
The way you talk gives it away, sorry.
Here another reply to fill up your sorry ego.
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>>253328862
The new one is a huuuuge letdown compared to the first two tho. Beyond Divinity will probably go down in history for being the last hardcore, stat-laden, isometric, detailed, humorous, classic RPG ever put out by a gaming publisher.
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>>253328275
>Freezing a fucker
>Then kick the fucker in spikes

otherwise
>Sneak behind fucker
>Kick fucker in spikes

or
>Go full force in fucker's face
>Stare him down as you kick fucker in spikes

Satisfaction or what?

>>253328868
How so?
I mean, you can not kick if you want.
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Op here, playing Arx Fatalis here, fucking cool
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>>253323881
Maybe give Desktop Dungeons a go? It's more puzzle-like than roguelike, but is built on pretty much perfectly traditional mechanics.
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>>253329040
But DivOS is a great game Anon, plot, dialogue, gameplay, innovation, all there.
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>>253329515
>using ice spell to freeze someone
Can you actually do it?
I only used it to freeze the ground and laugh and the ensued stupidity.
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How can some guys like party-based RPGS? yeah, I know, it's challenging and you're obviously not casuals, but it's a ROLEPLAYING GAME, where you're supposed to roleplay as your character, you know, be your character can't make it sound less autistic.
Might aswell just play RTSs
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>>253325983
>tfw can't take games like this or Metro seriously because sunlight is essential to human health, they'd just die after a while
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>>253329881
>DA: O
>DivOS

Fuck me, off to bed I go.
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>>253323881
Do you mean isometric in literal sense or just "camera on the sky" point of view? And what is so outdated about them?
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>>253329462
are you having a laugh mate
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>>253323881
Dragon Age Origins?
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>>253330040
Oh, you're one of *those* people...
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>>253329462
I really liked the Divinity games so far and the latest was not a letdown for me personally.

Can't wait to see what they'll do in the future.
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>>253330003
It's still freezing even it's just their legs.
It blew my mind how if you could freeze water and set fire tot oil back then.
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Dragons Dogma is literally the definition of that OP, the only problem is that it's consoles only and runs like shit depending on what's going on.
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>>253330040
You're dumb as hell nigga

Have you never played a classic tabletop RPG? Exploring dungeons and fighting as a party has a very definite appeal.
RPGs are more than just some fucking self-insertion fantasy.
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>>253330040
And you can't roleplay a character who has a party?
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>>253323881
Sadly, I think Torchlight and Torchlight 2 are about as close as you'll get. Though I believe they're still top-down camera, and no healer.
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>>253330003
You can, if you use the weakness spell with adrenaline charged you'll shrink them so you'll be able to crush them under your boot by just walking over them.
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>>253330449
With full adrenaline you freeze them whole.

Full adrenal attacks add a twist to every spell.
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>>253330472
>male rogue
>female warrior
What is this I don't even
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>>253330586
Not at all, I've played them and they are not the type of setting that I'm looking for. How is that shit classic fantasy?
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>>253330282
I don't know, I just feel like it takes away the basic characteristics of an RPG.

How would a hentai game where everyone's clothed sound?
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>>253328787
You can't imagine how glad I am Well, it's more like a mild satisfaction, actually that someone said >TFW when I have no face

All these faggots not knowing what tfw of mfw stands for...
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>>253330874
male rogue and wizard, female cleric and warrior is the optimal party gender dynamic
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>>253323881
Dragon's Dogma is the definitive answer here
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FFS /v/. I mean. Damn.

OP, Gothic 1/2/3/ Risen. Go now.
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>>253323881
Well, Might & Magic series fit that description. The only thing dated about those games are graphics but mechanics are still great.
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>>253331296
gothic doesn't have classes
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>>253323881
I was about to say divine divinity but
>no isometric
Try Wizardry 6-8
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>>253325654
This game is so fucking good
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>>253331528
Well, you right on that.
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>>253331296
Gothic? No please
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>>253330874
I don't think you've seen much fantasy D&D art...
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M&M 6 is probably the best game if you want pure old school dungeon crawling.
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>>253332176
Shit game, bad combat, awful mechanics
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>>253330874

That's not really unusual in fantasy art man.

You might like some works by Boris Vallejo and his wife Julie Bell who has a similar style to Boris. There's of course Frank Frazetta too.
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>>253332308
The only shit thing here is your opinions.
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>>253332308
Yeah it's true that the mechanics are pretty bad, for a modern gamer such as myself it doesn't even hold a candle to Skyrim or Dragon Age 2. It doesn't even have quest markers.
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>>253330874
Check Dragonlance universe some time
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>>253332646
soz m8
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I mean, it's not an RPG, but if anyone's interested, Hype: The Time Quest was a pretty rad game
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>>253332308
Fuck you and everything you stand for.
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>>253330472
I always had wanted to get a beard like Tanis, sadly can't decently grow the middle part of my mustache, remaining area is lush with healthy hair though, fuck my life.
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen is what you're looking for. Unquestionably one of the best games I've ever played, and the DA expansion content makes it even better. There's no reason for you not to play it.

Also, if you ever get to the point where you're not a big shit, Divinity: Original Sin is really good. It's not isometric, but it is very traditional with the structure of the exploration and the combat is pretty tactical.
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>>253330070
>implying humans can't adapt to this
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>>253333191
Is Tanis the wizard or the fella on the left?
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>>253330070
>tfw can't take games like this or Metro seriously because sunlight is essential to human health, they'd just die after a while

>Implying I've seen light in the past ten years.

I'm still alive. Mostly.
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>>253333798
Fighter with the bow.
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>>253330070
You know that there are actual underground train drivers, right?
Some of them only get to see like 2 hours of daylight/day
most they get is deppresion
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>>253332308
Go back to Skyrim.
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>>253334537
Don't like Skyrim, bad combat too
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>>253334956
Then go back to Call of Duty
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What's a game like Dwarf Fortress' Adventure Mode that isn't shit?
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>>253335083
I hate FPS games
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>>253335201
Dwarf Fortress adventure mode
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The Dark Spire on the DS is exactly what you want.
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>>253324903
... there was a point where /v/ actually hated DA:O
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Dark Messiah

apart from fulfilling all the criteria you mentioned, it's probably one of the finest games of the last ten years, rightfully having a place on many top lists. interactivity and player agency have hardly ever been handled so masterfully as in this game. definitive recommendation from me, you will easily be able to replay it often times since the classes are so different.
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The Etrian Odyssey games are pretty good for this, if you don't mind anime character portraits.

Otherwise, why not go back to the roots of cRPGs with pic related? You do have friends, right?
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>>253333161
Man, what fucking happened to worlds that have islands like that? I fucking hate how in every game it's just a huge fucking landmass with no separations. Going on remote islands was fucking awesome.

Runescape did that really well back in the day, too bad it's shit now. Although I don't really know if an MMO world is comparable, but still, I'd like some fucking variety in my worlds in fantasy games.
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>>253335354
I'm not going to mention the interface because maybe some dicksucker really likes having 4 inventory screens for different actions.
But even then just going from one place to another in the map is absolutely awful and uninteresting, and you can't wander alone unless you want to be murdered by a cackling ghost.
Companions are good, but they repeat sentences while traveling giving them a robotic feel and ruining my ASCII immersion.

The way you converse with people and the actual quests they give is in the right direction in terms of gameplay but is shit at its current state, the combat is shallow with a coating of "deep" (aka lots of body parts that don't change shit)

Not to mention the ASCII display which is unnecessarily cluttered with all kinds of characters representing useless things that shouldn't even be displayed outside fortress mode.

I just want a game where I can recruit folk, trade, drink ale, go out and explore dungeons to gain reputation with the nearby villages.
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>>253328774
>tfw one day at the end of capcoms life we might finally understand what the fuck they were thinking after all this time
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>>253336839
>tfw your friends don't want to try out new shit but just want to play d&d forever

I know some of you faggots browse this site, if you can read this fuck you, I wanna do Shadowrun.
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>>253324294
You must be joking. It breaks one of the main rules of PnP. Never kill a player without a saving throw.
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While it hasn't been updated since 2003, NetHack is a pretty good roguelike dungeon crawler. It might take you some time to get used to the graphics(ASCII, but there is a tile-based version) and the controls, but it's a very fun and replayable game.
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>>253337528
That looks like a video games to me anon, not PnP.
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>>253337616
>nethack
definition of artificial difficulty. and i don't mean RNG either although RNG does fuck you in the ass a lot. i mean the cryptic bullshit you have to solve in order to beat the game that no human could possibly know without cheating.
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>>253332176
This is a very nice game. shame about M&MX.
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>>253337707
OP asked and I answered. Try TOEE, OP. Make sure to use Circle of Eight mod though.
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>>253337528
It is pretty fucking annoying to have pseudo-permadeath when you can just be instantly swarmed by monsters in the middle of a fight that you were winning and have them kill one of your characters straight away.
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>>253337837
It's designed to be unbeatable. The fun is supposed to be in losing.
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>>253337497
I must be lucky, my group only has one guy like that. We played Pathfinder for while, and when we wanna try 5e he flips out and has to fight us the whole way. It must be awful to have a whole group of that.
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>>253337837
Do you mean stuff like the invocation ritual? Because I can't really think of anything else former the game that would require you to use the wiki or some other outside source in order to get past it.
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>>253338357
not just invocation ritual, but lots of little shit too that make the game way easier, like dropping weapons/armor and seeing if your pet will walk over it, etc.
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>>253338357
*from
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>>253338471
True, true. I suppose that's why there's a ton of spoilers that exist for the game.
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>>253323881
Drakensang.

It has a classless system though where anyone can become anything depending on how you distribute your skillpoints.
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>>253336839
OP HERE. TTRPGS are my dream, I wish I had friends to play 'em.
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>>253339716
I have tried everything, but I just can't find a group. I hate a little videogames for this, if they didn't exist more people would play tabletops and I'd find more players.
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>>253340939
I've heard from /tg/ that there's a couple sites that groups will post to and you can meet up, and you can also check out local game shops. I'm a permavirgin shutin though so I've never tried anything.
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>>253341439
I know those sites. Tried them. Noone replied. Asked to my friends, played a couple of times and then they started to hate it. Tried in a local gaming association but I am too aspie to do it.
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>>253323881

Might and magic VI-VIII. Thank me later.
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