ITT: The videogame that made you learn japanese.

Every good game has been translated into English, either officially or by fans.

>>253045127
>Weebshit
>Good

>>253044763
How many years did it take you to learn it?

>>253044763
so you don't give aname of the game...

go to hell :(

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no shame

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>>253044763
Tales of Vesperia for me
>>253045127
Tales translation groups are lazy pieces of shit

>>253048792
Idolmaster? Is it really that good?

>>253048542
yeah bro i lov anime like naruto and bleach xD

>>253049652
wtf ? i just asked you to say the name...

>>253049652
>xD

you serious or ?

>>253050047
It's shitposting, nothing more nothing less

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>>253049553

its idol management + rhythmn + VN
considering it has survived since 2005 and you have all these secondary weaboos that only seen the animoo, yeah its bretty gud if you're into that sort of thing.

>>253044763
what is this?

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>learning a doomed language

Let's face it, in thirty years the only important languages are going to be English, German, Chinese, and Arabic.

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>>253044763

fucking obligatory

localisation will never happen

>>253050572
>Arabic
Euro, pls

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The whole Super Robot Wars franchise really.

>>253050574
Is the girl playable?

>>253050572
And if I'm not dead by then, then I'll have a goldmine of awesome games that never got translated to play.

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>>253050363
It's too early for me to learn Japanese damn it. I have to make it through college, but one day. One day I'm sure I'll try. A pity games like this will never ever make it over here.

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>>253051387

y-yes?

also have you not played the yakuza series at all?

>>253044763

I'm learning japanase now mostly for jap VNs since almost everything else gets localized these days.

>>253050476

Yandere game by NIS or published by them I don't fucking know, they had some articles about it in Siliconera, google it.

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>>253050572

>English

Hispanics are going to be majority in the YouEssay in the next 30 years.

H games, doujins, manga, anime, so on
Summon Night 3 is a particular standout though

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>>253051891

harem tengoku datomottara yandere jigokudatta

>>253051891
How are you learning?
I got Anki with some flash cards and Rosetta Stone, just wondering if there's any better methods.

Amagami I still need to get the vita copy, been to Japan twice and I'm planning on doing esl there for a few years after I finish my degree

>>253052341

not that nigga but i learn muh kanji memorisation through karaoke, reading and vocab through muh jdm magazines (it really helps that im ching chong and can read the moonrunes), and conversational with actual jdm friends

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Well, when even /v/ is talking about learning Japanese I guess it is time to do my reps.

>>253052341
>Rosetta Stone

Drop that shit as fast as you can, holy shit I tried using that and it turned out to be just a waste of time.

I'm not very far yet, just learned hiragana and katakana and learning some grammar and kanji. I also bought the Genki books, that plus Anki is pretty much my game plan.

>>253050572
>German
>every German under age 70 desperately wants German to become English
>every German thinks English is cool

>>253050572
>Not Russian
There's a reason anything in the black market is done in russian.

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>>253044763

>>253052830
>>253051059

neo /v/ is not /m/ enough to recognise anything in srt and too casual for srpgs

>>253052830
They actually gave that a Dynamic Kill this time?

>>253053146
>People were expecting the next SRW game to be Z3.2 or a standalone title.
>Instead they get Masoukishin 3 Coffin of the End

Man there was some ass pain. I thought the last MK game flopped

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>>253044763
>tfw I am starting to naturally read japanese and it feels so good

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>>253044763
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vidyageemu

/v/ is learning Japanese together.
Come join us niggers

I like to have seeex
::::^^^^^))))))

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It's a list of video games that made me learn, not just one.

>>253049553
The game itself can get pretty repetitive but the character, music and interactions are all great. Plus it sports some pretty original gameplay ideas. I wouldn't say most of the games are great but it is good.

>>253052830
I bet there are people out there who would want to murder me if I tell them I know Japanese and don't like SRW.

>>253051059
MY FUCKING NIGGA. Learning basic japanese for it right now. I'm tired of depending on fan translations and going by context clues.

I finished Z3, liked it a lot, and decided that I would for my 4th language.

>learning an entire language just to play a few games

seems excessive

>>253052645
I've noticed, Genki is pretty good though? I'll look into that.

>>253051059
Why is the Z series so good?

>>253054072
Z3.2 is going to be fucking nuts. I can feel it.

>>253052528
As I use the flash cards, I'll go to nico nico and watch streams just trying to pick up what they say, and see if I can recognize anything in the chat.

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Ancient Japanese Vidya

Still learning but the Kiseki series.

>>253054282
I just hope they do better with the animations. Wing units got fucking shafted.

I hope Crowe comes back, potentially with his own route, Hibiki with another one (unless he gives into the Gemini influence) all culminating with one final fucking showdown with Asakim.

>>253054009
was it hard? i should learn to play this game

>>253044763
I learned English just by playing games but zero Japanese so far.
I would study it but I just don't see the point in learning a new language just for playing game, English at least is useful for a lot more things in life like browsing 4chan

>>253054646

That doesn't even look fun.

>>253054446

it helps watching jdramas with jsubs or movies with subs so you can connect. hell even fucking karaoke man in which at least you start saying it hoping you dont sound like a weaboo like avril lavigne

>>253055156
>thinking 2ch isn't better

jk

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>>253055237
It's a cyberpunk lightgun/p&c hybrid.

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>>253055150
It isn't easy but it's not nearly as hard as most people probably think it is. Once you get past the initial hurdle and start reading it feels great.

I'd talk more but these threads always show up when I have to leave to work.

>tfw no one in this thread actually learned enough japanese to be functional in japan.

>>253055850
>caring about that shit
i'm not a weeaboo

>>253053492
???? BITCHES

There's no games worth learning Japanese for.

>>253055979
Sounds like you don't really love video games

>>253055850

?????????...??

>>253055979
Me neither.
The Kanji system is a huge gaijin-block. Without exceptional memory, there is no way to achieve efficient reading (about 2000 kanji for average citizen of japan) without living there or living only in japanese.

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>>253056318

>mfw gwailos can't handle kanjis that even 5 year olds easily know

>>253056318
Kanji is easy. You memorized HOW many pokemon? By name, type, and you probably know their attacks!?

AND YOU CAN'T MEMORIZE A FEW HUNDRED FUCKING WORDS?

Kanji bitch. Gotta catch em all!

DRINK BEER

I'm using WaniKani to learn kanji, but I don't really know how to start approaching grammar. With stuff like Tae Kim's guide and Genki I wind up reading a bunch all at once and then not remembering any of it. I want something that forces me to pace myself like WaniKani does for kanji.

I started for porn, the artists I like the most either get zero translations or used to get translations but not anymore.

>>253056318

Kanji is a lifesaver. When something uses nothing but kana it can be fucking impossible to read.

>>253056279
the fuck

>>253055757
It's okay, guess i'll have to learn it.

>>253056203
>

>>253051926
Won't stop english from being the language of rich white people instead of poor worker trash.

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>>253056550
>make a pokemon rom hack
>make pokemon sprites be kanji
>make the name of each pokemon the Hiragana of each Kanji
>learn kanji the easy way.

You're welcome.

>>253056868
Ive suggested this probaly 20 times.

Can't be THAT hard.

>>253056613

well there's your problem, learning jdm grammar from worst korea. THE GRAMMAR IS NOT EVEN THAT FUCKING HARD AT ALL, its the most piss easy shit next to ching chong mandarin

its just subject–object–verb add particles where necessary, the rest is just tango

>>253056868

Almost all of them have multiple readings. And learning the kanji's readings on their own is next to worthless, you have to actually learn words.

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>>253056846

>rich white people
good goy, keep believing that

>>253056846
>Niggers

>>253057041
No shit, that's why you have the hiragana as the name of the pokemon.

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Only one, and I'll probably be able to play it by the time I'm 35.

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This. 10 years ago.

>>253057041

FUCK

Really??? I just spent a week learning the readings to kanji

How do I learn words?? Please help.

>>253057260

>akumajou dracula X
>castlevania

why does murrika get the shitty names

>>253057362
Just read mangas in furigana. It worked for me, a lot.

>>253057123
Jewish people look pretty white to me, but I guess they speak hebrew or some shit.

>>253057362

karaoke
or anything with japanese audio with japanese subs that go along

its just memorisation its not that fucking hard

>>253057440
Even google translates it as "castlevania"

>>253057362
If you know the kanji, you might be able to fumble around with the words and guess what it means.

>>253056542
Young children are far more capable of learning languages than adults are.

>>253057362

It tends to come more naturally, don't force it. Take it from me, I was obsessively learning literally every on and kun for multiple kanji for a week, and I forgot almost all of it.

Just read, have shit like this on hand for words you don't know www.romajidesu.com do some drills in your spare time, and watch animu. It'll all come together at some point, but be prepared to do this for years. Don't rush it, you'll just forget everything.

>>253050363
>idol management + rhythmn + VN
Well I already dig rhythm and VN

Tell me more about this idol management.

>>253057698

>google translate
>pleb-tier translator
have you tried translating it kanji by kanji

>>253056542
>implying anyone wants to learn Chinese

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>>253053098
don't remind me

>>253057956
I meant google is shit translating it that way, don't be offended

>>253057861
That's not actually true.

>>253050572
>German

Also
>Why would you learn a language for fun? You should only learn languages that have practical applications in your adult like like a real adult!
I'm learning Japanese because it's fucking fun to learn languages. I've already taken a couple years of German and Spanish.

But those don't let me play video games.

>>253057861

>same piss poor excuse that only applies to speaking and listening

stay illiterate round eye

>>253050572
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

No one speaks German, m8.

>>253050572
Multiculturalism they said.

>>253058183
>spanish

choca cinco, mi buen!

>>253058105
At least there's walkthroughs and subbed cutscenes
>>253058183
Not playing RE4 to understand "los ganados" voices

>>253057951

you pick costume pieces and their songs.
you dictate their weekly schedule and either send them off to do PR, training, lives, or festivals.
you take the shekels they earned and you spend them on more costume pieces

the goal is to be top idol

>>253058009

>this is what NEETs actually believe

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It helped

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>>253058459
S... sounds fun

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>>253044763

>Wants to learn moonspeak for untranslated video games
>Have to memorize +2000 runes alone for Kanji
>And that's not the worst part yet

Jesus fucking christ...

http://vndb.org/v5082

This and the hundreds of incest visual novels that will never be translated

>>253058919
>Have to memorize +2000 runes alone for Kanji
>And that's not the worst part yet
But that is the worst part.

And it's not even that bad.

>>253058919
That is the worst part

everything else is piss easy so far

>>253058919

The runes aren't completely unique, there are common elements called radicals from which they're composed. They're not that hard to memorize, it just takes time. And as I said earlier, once you start learning, you'll love kanji. There are too many homophones in the language.

>>253058919

>2000+

I thought we had to learn 10,000+. Well, I'm half way there at least. How do we know which ones to learn and which ones not to? I can't help but think I'm wasting my time on ones that aren't worth learning.

>>253059297
>10,000+
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's Chinese.

Japanese only needs you to know 2000 or so to be considered literate.

Japanese people that go to college generally wind up knowing like 3000.

>>253059297
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8Dy%C5%8D_kanji

>>253059297
From what i've read, it's around 3000 commonly used ones

>>253048792
fabian pls

>>253059418
>>253059472

Really now. Okay, well that makes me feel better. I was thinking I'd be at this until my mid 30s.

>>253057951

You are their producer. You schedule concerts and training and similar things. You also pick outfits and the songs they do and everything. More fun than it sounds.

I only have Idolm@ster 2 and the first gravure game though so it could be different in the PSP games. I know All For One is like 2 though.

>>253057123
Jews are white people.

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>>253059648
do you really want to go there?

>>253059648
Of course they are, so is Argentina

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>>253059648

I don't want to waste my time learning useless shit

I love anime, but everything gets subs anyways so it doesn't matter

>>253059640

the psp games are im@s 1 split into 3 because not enough room for all idols on umd

shiny festa is basically shiny tv/project diva im@s edition

OFA there's no time limit to be top idol and there's RPG elements where you can learn skills or raise base stats. you can also go at it as either solo duo or trio with any of the grils

also shame on you for not getting OFA when it was released, the producer edition was worth the shekels, esp with the amiami preorder bonus. muh miki paperweight

>>253059472
Around 3000 commonly used ones, 2,136 ones are on the official list for literacy and are the only ones that are allowed to be used in government documents.

>about 1% of the world speaks Japanese

>>253060329
More people in the world speak Japanese than German

>>253044763
I'd learn Japanese if it didn't take so long to fucking master

It's just not worth it

>>253060718
about 1% of the world speaks japanese

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>>253044763
Some useful links I have also found

Real Kana- Basically an advanced set of flash cards with Hiragana and Katakana with lots of options, like handwriting and computer style fonts to make sure you have that shit good and memorized, punk.

http://www.realkana.com/

Quick Japanese- A resource for children with lots of useful sentences and shit. This shit is good for building grammar and vocab. It even has voice over, so fucking go over some of this shit!

http://web-japan.org/kidsweb/language/quickjapanese/

Namasensei- He is a fucking ??? (nama sensei) means fucking RAW fucking REAL fucking UNADULTERATED teacher. He teaches Japanese, the basics at least, and makes it stick. Hes not for everyone, he teaches through a series of insults and drunken slurs, but if you want a great fucking motivator, check him out. ???? bitch.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKEkaHdUBQI0s7Czx06blNw

>>253059418
>only 2000

In a normal light novel there can be between 20000 and 40000 unique kanji.

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>>253061318

Oh my God it's hopeless

>>253061318
I genuinely don't believe you.

none

usa number one

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>>253060967
That means less than 1% of the world speaks German.

If I want to go to a vacation to japan do I need to know Japanese?

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>>253061318
>mfw people fall for this

>>253061683
You need to know enough to be polite. If you make an effort to speak japanese, the locals will usually treat you well and make an effort to speak english with you and you will be top-gaijin

>>253061995
Well how much would I need to know?

>>253061318
What? Nigga I've read plenty of LN's, there aren't anywhere near that many. Nobody fall for this.

>>253062089
oi! tore wa doko desuka

>>253061683

Learn directions, time-related words, words related to hotels/restaurants, and words related to anywhere you're planning on going. They'll be able to tell that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about so they should go easy on you.

>>253061690
>How many words do natives know?
Elementary School Level: 5-20 thousand
Middle School Level: 20-40 thousand
High School Level: 40-45 thousand
College Level: 45-50 thousand

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G5C7fCe07CDzYalZYZObzxv_fhw7RUNsLHiMAY-t7FA

Near the bottom.

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>>253061683
No. Just speak English very loudly while making hand gestures. Threaten anyone who acts unkindly in return with violence.

>>253062089
Watch Namasensei and that's basically all you need to not look like a shitbag on vacation.

Kana, the most basic vocab and a few key phrases.

>>253062329
>words

>>253062356
I would rather not be lock in a Japanese prison forever

>>253062089

Just the basics, survival Japanese. Know how to say help, thank you, excuse me, "where is X?", "I'm lost", "How much is X?" etc. Y

>>253062329

Words =/= kanji

>>253062329
>words = kanji
You're a special kind of stupid.

not all words are kanji you baka gaijin waitu piggu

I should really learn nip one of these days.

>>253062731
The sooner you start, the better.

If you have time to shitpost on /v/ you have time to learn a language.

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How hard is speaking Japanese compared to reading? Is learning both at once simply going to slow me down?

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Bought this little motherfucker recently to learn kanji an it's been going well so far.
Only bad thing is the way the book is actually put together. The kanjis shown have no order of appearance (like sorting by difficulty or genre) and a lot of them aren't even used anymore. The autor jus didn't gave a fuck.

But in about 3 days studing for 1 hour I've been able to memorize about 80 of them little bitches, so that's good.

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>>253062356
Trust this man

It works in every place that doesn't speak English

>>253062862
Speaking is easier than piss.

There are only like ~150 language sounds, compared to the thousands in English.

If you can read Japanese, you can speak it.

>>253062862

To learn one you kinda have to learn the other.

>>253062862
Are you murikan? Don't even try.
Do you speak any other language aside from english already? Go for it.

>>253062862

Depends on the material or who is speaking. Learn both though, it's easier to pick the language up when you're doing both.

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>>253044763

Rance serie

polak here, looking to learn a third language. Help me decide:

-Chinese
-Dutch
-Japanese

How long does Japanese take to learn, assuming a steady pace of maybe 7 hours of study a week?

>>253063350
German

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>tfw been learning japanese for and from porn
>tfw I know pretty much every foul and sensual term/phrase, but I can't even ask "where's the bathroom" in japanse.

>>253063283
A for Apple

>learning a language for a country that hates foreigners

>>253063283

>dubs

>>253063350
Japanese.

>>253063461
Seduce me in Japanese, anon

>>253063410
Define "learn".

>>253063497

Their resistance only makes my penis harder

>>253063283
this shit took me like 70+ tries to make it not look like ass while I was writing

>learning a language
>read intermediate level
>through the years find that countless people even below my level qualify it as "speaking the language"
>they tell everyone they can speak it, but I know they're just beginners
>that feel when almost everyone who wasn't raised bilingually was probably exaggerating throughout my life
>???????

>>253063729

Well you're just too cool for school.

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>>253063126
If i'm mexican and since spanish speakers usually have an easier time learning asian languajes specially because of the pronounciation, how many monthsor years will it take me to understand enough to read mangas in jap/play vidya

>>253061683
Ore wa chinchin ga daisuki nan dayo = I'm glad to meet you.

>>253063410
>7 hours of study

Dude, that's just wasteful. I'm pretty sure that after about 2 our 3 hours you're gonna forget most of the stuff you read the very same day. You need to give your brain time to sort that shit.

Anyway, according to http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Language_Learning_Difficulty_for_English_Speakers

>88 weeks (2200 class hours)(about half that time preferably spent studying in-country) And that's with an asterisc, which seems to signal it to be even harder.

But then again, that's just for english speakers. If you're anything else, it can either be easier (like it's easier to learn the pronounciation if you speak latin derived languages) or harder (if it's anglo-saxon)

>>253063729
>finally mastered kana
>working on vocab
>just read that last line quickly and understood it

I know it's super-scrub level, but holy shit, I'm feeling good.

>>253063461
>have japanese girlfriend
>have used a large amount of quotes from manga
>check both japanese and english translations to try and get meaning and context down accurately
>it actually works sometimes
>other times it's too much
>that feel when ntr fan
>I guess I don't often talk about making women cum from my semen anyway

>>253063461
?????????

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>>253063283
? is for ??
? is for ??
? is for ????
? is for ???
? is for ????
Burned into my brain forever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njvulx5N_qE

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>>253063932
The Dark Lord is coming, I love penis.

>>253063880
See
>>253063954

>>253063729
>Not using the kanji
???????????

>>253063461
tore wa doko desu ka?

>>253063991

How'd you get a Japanese qt 3.14?

>>253051618
You might as well start now, by the time you graduate college, you say that you're too busy finding a job/working to learn japanese.

>>253063880
I know enough jap to read porn and children's games and it took me 8 months.

>tfw 95% of people spend more time trying to learn how to efficiently learn a language rather than actually learning that language

>>253063984
I love that feel.

Feels like progress.

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Anki is my favorite Japanese video game.
>tfw going through 200 cards in an hour

>>253064212
After I'm done with Spanish.

>know around jlpt3 japanese
>still skim through japanese doujin because it probably won't make sense
>actually take a moment to read a page
>it does make sense
>mind is slightly blown
>continue to skip through pages any way because I just want to fap at the good parts
>implying story is important

>>253064150
>Romaji
Mahn get out of here

>>253064135

No one uses the kanji for ??????. Are you thinking of ???? perhaps?

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>>253064371
cuanto tiempo llevas estudiando español?

>>253064460
implying he knows kana.
>romanji
>not roomaji
Get your gaijin ass outta here esse. Hasta la vista nig nog poly wog.

Stop making theses thread

It makes me want to learn even though it's a fucking worthless language

>>253044763
Hey OP, if you're still here, how was the game? I haven't heard a lot about it, and trying to watch a playthrough on Youtube bored me to tears. Does it get good later?

>>253058990
I remember playing the first one of that series. It was a giant piece of shit.

>>253064896
so basically every language that isn't English.

>>253064896
>having fun
>worthless

>>253064880
>implying he knows kana
Kana takes like one day to learn.

>>253065026
exactly

>>253064896

If you're going to use it, it's not worthless. Learning doesn't have to be specifically for your career you doofus.

>>253064641
I haven't even started, which is why I mentioned college. I honestly didn't want to learn Spanish but it's better than taking Statistics. Is it difficult?

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>>253064334
What are you shit? I was downloading doujins off sadpanda whlie doing these.

>>253064018
??????????????????????? ???????????????

H-how's the sintaxe?

>>253065189
fug off homo im not showin you that shiit.

>>253065169
>46 minutes to download shit from sad panda

>learning japanese
I do want to, but I don't want to join a class and then have it be filled with the stereotypical weebs who think naruto and evangelion are the best things ever

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>tfw already booked a flight and place to first place to stay for a work & travel in japan
>can only speak certain words I catched up from raping 2D girl in vidya

This gonna be fun.

>>253065197
Trying to find the correlation here.

>>253065020
The hentai was god tier, I fap to it weekly

>>253052794
>every German under age 70 desperately wants German to become English
But that's not fucking true you Faggottspieler

>>253065331
>He doesn't download multiple tanks and doujins off sadpanda using scripts
m8. I still have a bunch left open.

If this was /a/ this thread would have gone to the waifu way after the third post

Don't think there was any specific game.

4 years in now, getting JLPT N1 this Decemeber. Feels pretty damn good.

>>253065189
just change the katakana o in ochinchin to a hiragana o and youre good to go

>>253065346
Oh, they'll be there. But not everyone is as obnoxious as them and they'll be weeded out in the next level of Japanese and so forth.

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>>253065118
well, if you're an english speaker,it is kinda difficult, anglo languajes and latin ones are pretty different, but at least you ae trying

>>253065346

Taking a class is pointless, you'll learn exponentially slower than you would on your own. Go read /a/'s Daily Japanese Thread FAQ to get all the resources you need, and hop in on your own time instead of paying someone to waste it.

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>>253063932
eard you talkin shit 'bout me m8

>>253052794
Das ist aber leider falsch.

Just some advice: don't learn from anime unless you want to sound like a cartoon character.

>>253065545
How the hell can you learn to speak and pronounce a language correctly by yourself?

>>253065356
Japanese folk are really accomidating to foreigners, they'll usually try to speak English for you.

>>253065631

You have speakers, or at the very least headphones, don't you?

>>253065486
>implying I dont have over 20GB of content from sadpanda on my harddrive right now
>downloading using scripts
>not just downloading them using credits

Where does one look up lewd kanji to learn ?

>>253065631
Most people at DJT only want to read shit. And if you're American, you're doomed anyway, your pronounciation will be shit no matter what.

>>253065545
I dunno about shitty classes in America, but I'm really happy with the classes I got here. Universitiers are free, lecturers are native Japanese, 20 people at most per class. Great overall.

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>>253065693
>learn japanese
>go to japan
>everyone speaks english to you

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>>253065693
No they don't.

Unless I tell them I'm from germany, after that they are really fucking friendly

>>253059648
>>253059785
>>253059794
>>253059860

Aren't they technically white? As in they have white or light colored skin?

>>253065767
>having downloaded all of this

Are you afraid the internet is going to go away someday?

>>253065189
???????

>>253065346
Classes aren't necessarily advised.

I read about someone who's Japanese class taught kana over the course of the entire fucking year.

>>253065857
It is if you rike roricon

>>253065873
>I read about someone who's Japanese class taught kana over the course of the entire fucking year.

What the fuck? Maybe that was some pointless Japanese for Beginners.

>>253065857
>believing the sadpanda will last forever

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>>253065041

>>253065197
>>253065359
Is it a joke way of saying "go fuck yourself"?

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>americans can't speak jap

Can someone explain this to me? Is it just doomed to sound like shit? Is there a name for this phenomenon?

>>253065619

?????!

>>253066036
As I recall, it was a college class.

Of course, that's hopefully an outlier. But still.

>>253066169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWlG4cd4kU

it's the accent

>>253066169
its the same reason americans cant speak a lot of languages well, or the other way around. fundamental structural differences in sounds that comprise the languages.

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Mainly just wanting to read untranslated moege. After 1000 words in anki I dropped that program. Ended up using ITH and TA and what grammar I know. Works for me considering I dont really have any intentions of going to japan.

>>253063932
b0ss

>>253066169
Same reason why Asians sound funny when they speak english.

Literally curious here. How did you learn Japanese? If you learned Japanese in order to import games and play them in Japanese, do you fully understand them as you would in English? Or is something missing but you get the main idea? How difficult is it to learn Japanese?

>>253066390
>Cheating with a text hooker
m8.

>>253066323
Well, I'm Japanese major and my classes certainly weren't like that. Not even in the beginning,

>>253066169
It's not impossible, it's just hard.

You're going to unconsciously use sounds that are more native to you.

Especially when it comes to the "R" sound in Japanese.

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>>253066390
>tfw all my intentions of going to japan are history, food and architecture

>>253066512
It's hard. Gotta spend a lot of time studying, especially to learn specifically how to read with 100% comprehension, unless you study nothing but japanese as a full time thing, it'll take you 1-2 years just so you can read something with the help of a dictionary.

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>>253066543
As long as I can read my moege.

>>253066390

This ITH, does it only work for VNs? I'd like to be able to play Mugen no Frontier Exceed.

>>253066169
Even though I know the pronunciation, I feel racist for sounding out katakana words. I'll still say hamburger instead of ?????? ... Feel like a douche.

HANBAAGAAA ONEGAISHIMASU

>>253066627
Its just as simple as explaining it like
ra is r'da
ri is r'di
ru is r'du
re is r'de
ro is r'do

>>253066746
Who is this pantyhose pirate?

>>253066746
>Pantyhose
My fucking weakness. Fuck you m8, you win.
>tfw have too much eroge and japanese games to go through now after learning moon.

>>253066821
I can see your average American reading that as

>rih-dah
And so on

A better explanation, I think is like halfway between D and L. Your tongue kind of goes in the same place.

But it'd be infinitely easier to explain with audio.

>>253066343
I'd blame a lot of it on not actually speaking Japanese with a Japanese person. When I lived in Japan (I'm from the US), I also spent some time learning Japanese and, since I lived there, I knew a lot of natives Japanese people who helped with pronunciation. So I wouldn't say it's something that is impossible to get past, but it's really difficult if you don't actually talk to any Japanese people.

>>253067110
As someone who spoke french growing up, I describe it as rolling your R's but holding the actual roll.

>>253066774

All text hookers are utterly useless for emulators. You're better off just learning the language.

>>253067268
That's good too.

But there are people who can't roll their Rs.
So they're kind of fucked huh.

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Whats a good alias I can give myself when visiting japan?

My surname is literally "Fatman"
I can't introduce myself with that name, I need a new one.

>>253067110
You use your tongue when you say the Japanese R. The English R doesn't use your tongue at all.

>>253066169
English is stiff as fuck, as far as pronounciantion goes, while japanese is a lot more flexible (even with the "only sillabes" thing). So, a lot of people just senselessly try to speak other languages like they're english, but with different words. That's where it all goes to shit.

>>253067462
Ken-sama.

>>253052830

Too bad none of these shitty mech SRPGs have any actual gameplay.

Why not just make an over the top 2D mech beat em up or something instead

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>wanted to play a few nip only games and that was my motivation to start learning the language
>suddenly no longer motivated to play those games because my bacllog is fucking insane
>all motivation to learn the language is dropping
I wish I had adderall

>>253067268
A lot of americans can't roll or change their r's in ANY fucking way.
I took 4 years of french in High School. R's were the most common problem all the way through to French 4.

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>253066945
I know that feeling. Theres so many visual novels that come out I cant keep up. I end up finishing one and five more that interest me get released.

>>253067670
>footjob pantyhose
Okay, going to download it now.
also
>christian image board

winter 2013 and beyond since it's literally impossible for them to be translated in my lifetime.

I just use ITH and TA to play eroge.

I would love to know japanese to enjoy them properly, and a few rpgs like Falcom's Kiseki games, but I'll never learn it. I'm too lazy.

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>>253067878
>winter 2013
I found a winter friend. I hope rixia is a great semen demon

>>253044763
>implying i'm going to learn moonspeak just to play a game

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I tried for some of the early SMT games and during the golden age of untranslated PS2 Tales games.

Realized it wasn't worth the time and didn't want to spend the money for an actual person to teach me it.

>>253054676
>Wing units got fucking shafted.

Wing looked liked movie quality animation compared to FMP units

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>>253067462
>My surname is literally "Fatman"

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>>253067986
fffuuuck, that penis machinist is the reason I wanted to play those games in the first place.

>tfw learned russian just to get into internet fights with gopniks on dota 2
What am I doing with my life?

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>>253061020
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9_TCfzPlLI&list=PL9987A659670D60E0&index=71

Why do the Japanese hate white people so much?

>>253068598
Because we won't drop a 3rd one on them.

>I should learn a language one day
>I should learn a language one day
>I should learn a language one day
I'm never going to learn Japanese.

>>253068598
Glorious xenophobia

It's not like America loves foreigners either, unless you're from Europe or someplace no one has ever heard of.

>ace attorney investigations 2 and ff agito are the last straw
>time to learn japanese
>study for 3 years intensively
>live in japan
>ah maybe i can play this now
>LELEL FAN TRANSLATION IS OUT
im posting from my shitty job at the japanese high school as an english teacher

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>>253068451
She reminds me of frieda. Both steal too much semen.

I'm to American to learn another language.

???

>>253068598
Wasn't there some poll about different nations' people's opinion on America and most of Japan liked the US?

>>253068503
The right thing, anon. Keep fighting the good fight.

>>253068904
>???
?????

>>253068830
Well shit, anon. At least you can now post on /jp/ or go on /a/ and feel all smug about people who can't into japanese. Wasn't it worth it?

>>253068904
??????
fuck off Tae Kim

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>>253068830
>Went to Japan
You only have yourself to blame.

>>253069191
i never learned any of my moonrunes from /a/ or /jp/

so not really?

started as an interest between games, anime and having to learn a new language in college, to study abroad in japan, to now i just want to be able to speak well enough to get women into bed and im there so i dont need to study anymore

>>253068712
I heard somewhere that one of the bombs dropped wasn't actually a nuke. Is that true?

whats the best way to learn japanese

i keep hearing about rosetta stone

>>253068830
Do you have any friends there?

>>253069420
>Rosetta Stone
NO

>>253069204
>sexing the most attractive women in the world
no regrets

>>253068830
You can get all the doujins that you ever wanted from the comikets. Arcade and the food must be god tier as well.

???????????!

>>253069420
visit the Daily Japanise Thread on /a/, read the guide, avoid the rest of the thread.

>>253069446
girls i friendzoned

jap guys are weird

>>253069508
arcades are neat. not into doujin or manga.
ramen and yakiniku among other things is great, but i miss my american fatty foods

>>253069420
Yeah Rosetta stone is a really good tool. Of course you also want to supplement it with books and anki study cards.

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>>253069505
>Implying they take gaijin dick
.?

>>253068904
?????????????

>>253069420
Rosetta stone is very formal.
You need a combination of things.

>realkana.com
>namasensei
>a good english-Japanese dictionary
>rosetta stone
>some imported childrens games like pokemon, and the early dragon quest games
>raw manga (for kids) helps you learn some kanji

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narue no nikki
it is an obscure VN spin-off to an obscure shitty fetish game that's not going to be translated by the people who did the latter due to being "torture porn"
fuck you son my ass is torture porn swer on me m8
however i will be guided to the sunset with my dick and also with my anki decks

>>253069664
Nipponese love the gaijin cock

>>253068869
That's some perfect taste you've got there, anon.

>>253069523
lewd

>>253069668
rude

>>253069647
>not into doujin or manga.
Well correct that then and get into it. It's the whole fucking medium. There must be loads of shit you would be interested in. And once you get into doujins, you won't be able to fap to regular porn anymore.

I hear Nip ISPs are hardcore anti-pirates. Is that true?

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>>253044763
herp derp

>>253069664
the reason the myth about gaijin success is debated is because it still comes down to whether or not you are attractive.

if youre attractive sure its all the more easy to score, but if you arnt then no one will want to touch you

if your one of those people who thinks they cant get white women so theyll go to japan because its easy you:re wrong.

japanese women dont just crawl to you thats taiwan

>>253069503
>>253069637
>>253069656
>>253069687
thanks /v/ i'll get started tonight

>>253068830
I'm posting from my elementary school. What's up, Guy Jean-kun? Why are you still at school? All these other amerikkkans leave earlier usulla.y

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>>253053146
>There'll never be a Cybuster action game

time for ??? be back in a bit

>>253069976
That's what I said too. It just doesn't work out.

>>253069420
Learn your kana, shouldn't take long.

Then simultaneously practice your kanji, vocabulary and grammar. Use Tae Kim's guide for grammar, anki to practice your kanji/vocab as well as manga/games/dorama

>>253069848
You too anon. I had someone make frieda in AA2 since there's no porn of her. I should get someone to do rixia and or do it myself at some point.

>>253068830
>that story
I thought I was the only one. Just as I got here and figured out japanese enough, that fucking game got a fan translation.

I'm working at a vidya company, though, not english teaching.

Why don't you just molest some high schoolers?

>>253069687
>raw manga (for kids) helps you learn some kanji
I've got a ton of Yotsuba&! raws that I have yet to read.

Any other good ones? Something tells me Doraemon would also work.

>>253069948
This guy nailed it. You can get by as a sort of normal looking guy, but if you are dumpy in america, you'll still be dumpy in Japan.

Go to some SEA shithole if you want women who will beg for some ugly fat white guy.

>>253070181
Thats what I said to myself 2 years ago. I'm still learning nip. Can't read shit though because I'm a lazy fuck ad didn't put in as much work as I needed too in those two years.

>>253068830

At least you can read cute untranslated porn.
http://exhentai.org/s/b24d463720/712989-147

>>253069647
>girls i friendzoned

What gives, mate? Are you, a faggot?
Please at least tell me you fucked them before friendzoning perfectly good japanese girls.

>>253052645
>>253054079
Go to /a/'s Daily Jap Thread and get the anon edited version of Genki. It remove all the complete shit useless Romaji from the books.

>>253048792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE

>>253069664
They do but you'll have to be attractive to garner any attention at all. Jap guys that I've seen over there are pretty handsome, at least in Tokyo.

???

>>253070621
I'm fairly certain I have the raw version and there are no romaji.

>>253070621
The only time Genki bothers with romaji is when it teaches you kana.

After that it's gone.

I tried to. Even started taking it at college. But I dropped out and don't really feel like continuing now. I guess there's some stuff I'll miss out on but I don't think the payoff is worth the work I have to put in.

>>253063954

He said 7 hours a week you fucking illiterate

>>253069913
Meh. The only ones who give a shit are the biggest companies, and there are smaller ones available. They do often have bullshit like bottlenecking the shit out of torrent speeds, though.