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So how's everyone enjoying Divinity: Original Sin? Got it

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So how's everyone enjoying Divinity: Original Sin? Got it in the sale today, as I'm sure many of you have.

I tried to make a dedicated spear-wielding build and to my dismay it's not only a dexterity weapon, but also completely lacks for synergistic abilities. The scoundrel's sneak attack requires you use a knife, and man-at-arms abilities scale off strength. I haven't actually obtained a spear in-game yet, so I'm reserving my judgment. I might forgive Larian if spears have greater reach than other weapons.
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Sorry, $32 is still way too much for an early access game.
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http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-divinity-original-sin-cd-key-compare-prices/

Good job for getting it on "sale"
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>>249279574
>dodgy key shops
Nah
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>>249279539
it launches in 10 days you nonce
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>>249279628
They defintely look dodgy, I'll give you that, but I've bought a lot of games from them and I usually get it withing 15 seconds.
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>>249279539
>>249279574
Can we talk about the game in this thread instead of bitching about the price?
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>>249279539
>releases in 10 days
>beta is practically a demo
Admit it, you're just poor.
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What do people find in spears?

They're just so... eh.

Axes are cooler.
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>>249279854
They're classy.
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>>249279810
I'll join in on the fun after I'm done buying it.
One question though, is it anything like Dungeon Siege?
Because it looks like Dungeon Siege and I loved Dungeon Siege.
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>>249279539
>easily over 50 hour cRPG with environmental interactions, innovative co-op gameplay, great humor and writing, great soundtrack made by a developer that is known for making fun games they want to play and always trying to make the best game possible
>LOL NO, NOT WORTH 30 BECAUSE IT DARED TO USE EARLY ACCESS AS IT WAS INTENDED TO BE USED
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>>249280034
Is DS open world?

This one is open world with turn based combat and a party of characters.
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>>249280034
Combat is turn based.
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Can you make your own character in this game. I mean, like in Fallout 3/NV or Skyrim?
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>>249280256
You make yourself and your companion.
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>>249279854
>stylish
>useful
>dependable
>easy to produce and maintain
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>>249280256
>picture of character creation in OP
>"can you make your own character?"
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>>249280256
You mean, like in any self respecting WRPG? Yeah
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Just bought it, and vsync seems really bugged. Activating vsync makes the game constantly jump between 30 and 60 FPS, even with the frame limited at max. Deactivating vsync gives a smooth 60 FPS, but the screen tearing is pretty horrendous.
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>>249280421
Send bug report to Larian. They did shit-tons of upgrades.
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Will this come to GoG?
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>>249280305
>>249280349
>>249280370

Thanks, i know it was a dump question. But I just wanted to be sure
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>>249280831
Pretty sure that yes.
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In what state is the game?
Mainly interested in single player so should i buy now with the sale or wait until release?
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>>249279419
why would you pay for beta testing?
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>>249279628
Kinguin is more than fine at least.
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>>249280961
It's basically complete. Released in 10 days.

Buy it now, it won't get any cheaper than daily deal.
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>>249280961

You can play through a large chunk of the game, but all your saves will die when the release hits.

Best to buy now and wait for release.
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>>249279854
They're the best weapons.
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>>249280342
>spears
>useful
>dependable

Spears are only useful on large scale battlefields in tight formations or hunting specific prey. They are not versatile weapons at all, which makes them the opposite of useful or dependable.
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>>249279419
Still stuck on the title screen. I cannot progress onward due to lack of will. Music is too good.
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>>249281175
>Spears
>not god tier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBbFe9drObk
There's a reason everyone used spears all the time, and swords were tertiary weapons at best
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How deep does the character creation go? Can you choose race, hairstyles, tit size etc?
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>>249281236
Kiril's a fucking pro.

Did you know that guy was in a band that played "underground metal" in Soviet Russia back it was literally illegal music?
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>>249281476
No race options. But a whole bunch of visual ones, and a LOT of stat related ones.
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>>249280927
I asked the same shit a week ago, mainly because originally the two characters were presets.
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>>249281045
>>249280961

Played it for like a day before the latest update destroyed my save, but it's pretty cool. I figured out who snatched the body by talking to the victim's dog, which apparently isn't the "normal" way to do it.

My team was a female Spellblade or shadowblade or whatever the rogue/witchcraft combo was, and my male was a Wayfarer, which is like a druid/ranger/healguy. Once you start getting some points in speed, rogue characters can be all over the battlefield. They do low damage, but get to attack 5 or 6 times a turn, and have almost twice as much movement distance as anyone else.

I'm not sure if this is intentional or broken or what, but it seems you can easily exploit friendly or neutral NPCs by having one character talk to them while the other sneaks behind and robs their house and shit. Makes stealth hilariously trivial.
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>>249281714
So you're telling me I can't be a delicious brown girl with white eyes and long flowing white hair?
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>>249281901
I have said no such thing.
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>>249281408
>There's a reason everyone used spears all the time
Because they're cheap and easy to produce you chode.
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>>249281984
I SAID DELICIOUS BROWN NOT CHARCOAL
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>>249281901
You can change hair color skin color, faces, and a few other things, but no tit slider.
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Why doesn't someone just add blades to the side of a spear so it can double as a sword?
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>>249282050
>no chance for dfc
FUCK
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>>249281175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8RWLxlzTiM

This is rapier and buckler which is inferior to spear, longsword would be much more of a fair fight. But you can clearly see how dangerous a spear can be.
You are right though, spears are much more useful in a formation than in 1v1 fight, although they are a pretty decent dueling weapon.
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>>249282039
I sure hope you don't think swords are anything other than shit tier.
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>>249282136
What?
What do you mean?
Add two sword blades, one on each side?
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>>249282049
OP's image?
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>>249282136
You mean, you're making an axe?
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>Got it in the sale today

Why
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>>249282281
Yes, and a guard to stop people from getting at your hands easily when it close combat.
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>>249282136
Like that?
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>>249282039
No, because they are much longer, faster and more useful than swords.
Swords were what pistols are today. A sidearm. You'd want to have one on you just in case, but can you imagine getting into actual war armed only with a pistol?
Maces, Flails, Warhammers, Spears and Halberds is where it at. Maybe two-handed swords like zweihanders or claymores in specific conditions. Rapiers are nice too, if only against armor. Regular longswords are what you wear in a city, so you wouldn't be completely without a weapon if you get jumped.
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>>249282049
Nigga it's all in the game, I can tell you that much
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First shitposting about price, then shitposting about which weapon is better IN REAL LIFE. Has anyone even fucking played this game? Goddamn.
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>>249279419
Backed the Kickstarter. I've avoided playing it until official release so I can experience it fresh.
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>>249282372
Because that would add a ridiculous amount of weight making it too hard to hold it as a spear?

>>249282374
I agree with all of that except for rapier.
You wouldn't use a rapier in a combat situation.
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>>249282363
>not buying on steam
Fucking plebs
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>>249282363
Is that that site mention above? What's it called?
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>>249282363
because that price in pounds is more expensive than the game on steam for me.
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>>249279419
>10 days till release
>just started Geneforge series
>xenonauts just released
>in the middle of Kamidori
>in the last quarter of World of Xeen
>world cup
I'm NEET but I still don't have the time!
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>>249282419
24% done.
I'm getting there anon.
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You can have two dudes/ two womans as well right?
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>>249282465
>Because that would add a ridiculous amount of weight making it too hard to hold it as a spear?

r u a pussy
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>>249282374
There were entire medieval schools based on the longsword fighting. You think they'd bother if everything else is better?
Don't be a fucking idiot.
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>>249279419
Oh, shit, son! It's out!?
>early access
Fuck off. I'll play it when it's done.
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>>249282419
I have. What do you want to know?
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>>249282517
You get a steam key.

>>249282521
I just got it from G2Play.
It's a gift so some random guy gifts it to your steamaccount, but it took like 30 seconds for me to get it after payment.
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>>249282538

The flood of RPGs is both a blessing and a bane
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>turn based combat ARPG

no.
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>>249280120
>>249280138
>turn based
Into the trash it goes
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>>249282556
Yeah, + some other npcs/henchmen.
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I have $50 for steam sales. This game + DLC would leave me with $10 but its the game I want most. Suicide is painless.
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>>249282656
You might get a steam key but you're giving money to some filthy russians not based valve
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>>249282538
Where are you from?
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>>249282556
Yep.

>>249282645
It's coming out in 10 days you dumbo
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>>249282701

lel
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>>249282628
Everything else is better.
Swords are sidearms, they're sidearms for a reason.
You're not going to carry a fucking Poleaxe around or a fucking Billhook.

Also there are school based on Karate for generations, that doesn't make it the best way to fight someone.
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>>249280117
>50 hour long CRPG
>long
Remember when CRPGs lasted 150-300 hours? What the fuck happened?
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>>249282556
Yes
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IS there any interesting magic so far?
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>>249282419
Yeah, every backer got an early access copy. Any info you want?
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>>249282465
>You wouldn't use a rapier in a combat situation.
Nigga, rapiers are godsend when you are dealing with armored dudes. They are thin and sharp as fuck, allowing you to thrust precisely into weak spots in their armor, like joints or holes. They are the best when dealing with faggots in full plate mail. Hell, if guy has particularly shitty chain-mail with big rings, you can stab trough it, too.
But outside of dealing with armor, their usefulness is limited. Like, you can still kill a man with one, but if he doesn't wear sight and movement restricting armor, it ain't gonna be easy
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>>249282646
Are spear builds viable? Do spears confer any advantage in combat whatsoever?
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>>249282748
Who cares?
It's Valve, not some good developer that deserves the money.
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>>249282556
At the char creator now, yes you can.
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>>249282873
Fuck off, you don't deserve to play on PC
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>>249282819
The magic is fucking crazy in the game. And it's applicable in lots of scenarios outside of combat.
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>>249282628
>You think they'd bother if everything else is better?
In an actual fight, yes, everything else is better. But you are not going to carry a fucking spear and a shield around you in-town, now would you? So you have to gitgud with the sword, too, just so you can defend yourself if shit gets hairy
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>>249282959
Please take your Valvedroning someplace else.
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>>249279539
Have fun paying $40 when it releases on the 30th
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>>249282870
Ok, I didn't try spears. But from what I can tell the guy earlier in the thread complaining about them is right. They're a dexterity weapon, but you'd want a dexterity character shooting a bow or sanicing across the map backstabbing people.
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>>249282962
I just still remember the horribly unsatisfying magic in Divinity 2.
Glad they're making some progress in that direction.
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not getting it till voice acting is on.

Seems pointless to start a70h game thats going to be save incompatible in 10 days
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>>249282962
>walk up to a ship on fire with a dozen people desperately throwing buckets of water trying to save it
>casually summon a rainstorm to put it out

Speaking of side quests, what fate did you choose for that soldier and his orc waifu, /v/?
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>Can edit underwear
10/10 Loli mod when
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>>249282776
I am not saying that it's the best, I'm saying that you have no idea what you're talking about. Medieval times are sword centric, as is the renaissance. While you'd naturally want to use different weapons for different situations saying that a sword is useless is stupid.
Most of the armies were made from peasants. What is the best close ranged weapon to murder an unarmored crop planter from a horse? A fucking sword, that's what.

Landsknecht absolutely raped pike formations with their greatswords. Romans conquered the entire Europe by using a gladius.
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>>249283142
Didn't play it that far, keeping myself pure for the final game
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>>249283112
Then buy it now for cheaper and play when it's out you idiot
>not getting it till voice acting is on
Not everything will be voice acted
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How does the dialogue works anyway if you play single? Do you choose one of the two heroes to be controlled by AI or something or are you just picking questions and answers for both of them? Also are the interactions between them and other NPC's good?
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>>249282760
alright, not that far away.
pretty hyped tbh but I cba to playtest it, I feel it ruins my enjoyment.
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>>249283176
Hopefully?
Never, you have Skyrim for that.
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>>249283217
>Do you choose one of the two heroes to be controlled by AI or something or are you just picking questions and answers for both of them?
You can do either
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Been trying to buy it since fucking yesterday but my bank is shit and won't let me.
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>>249283186
Nobody said swords are useless, we're saying they're inferior.
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>AI: Random or none

What does that influence?
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>>249280961

The game is pretty much done and was originally planned to release today, it was delayed to the 30th in order for them to record some more voice acting lines.

It's on sale now so if you want it cheap then go for it now but there's no need to jump on it before release (outside of saving money) because saved games from the beta won't work on release version.
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>>249279419
>So how's everyone enjoying Divinity: Original Sin?

I am waiting for it to be finished before I enjoy it.
How long now, 2 weeks?
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>>249283217
You pick dialogue for both of them. I make mine argue about almost everything.
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>>249282363
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>>249283378
The conversation options, they'll add more personalities later
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How much fucking DLC will this game end up having? We've already got early access DLC on it, I want to know how much worse it's gonna get before I spend anything.

>>249283112
You realize voice acting is the fucking bane of modern cRPGs? Having to record endless lines is why dialogues are always on rails now.
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>>249279419
quick question: is there a solo campaign available right now in beta/early access?
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>>249283429

Ah, good to know. Thanks.
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>>249283409
You're role-playing /v/?
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>>249282848
A longsword is just as good for that, if not better because you can use it as a spear or even throw it. Rapiers were used when people stopped using heavy armor.
Although you might kill a guy in armor mostly due to speed. In one of the Medieval German fighting books it's mentioned that the only way to defeat a guy stronger than you is to not utilize strength because you will always lose, but use speed instead.
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>>249283409
So you're pretty much talking with yourself?
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>>249283417
You're a mong.
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>>249283537
yeah unless you co op
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>>249283404
1 and a half.
>>249283537
As another anon said, you can set AI personality when you start.
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>>249282701
>shitty opinion
Into the trash you go.
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>Larian game
>pre-release DLC
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>>249283583
ZUSAMMEN HEIL
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>>249283495
No, he's not, you cunt.
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>>249283429
Nice, so far I've been trying to roleplay both at once, hopefully the options they provide are decent.

>that pic

Well, so far, the biggest villains are all witchcraft-sing whores, so he might be right.
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>>249283647
embrace the future
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>>249283647
The DLC is just the collectors edition stuff.
Basically you can buy collectors edition or buy the normal edition and later "upgrade" to collectors by buying the DLC.
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>>249283409
Sounds fun. I'll pirate it.
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How's the game combat system? Is it fun/deep?
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>>249283647
Oh look, another clueless tard.
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>>249283647
You god damn faggots have no idea what you're even complaining about, fuck's sake you're pissing me off
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>>249283647
Kickstarter cosmetic rewards for those who didnt kickstart it.
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>>249283647
i bet you they are way over budget for this game

had to remove day night cycles + npc schedules (I was really looking forward to them)
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>actually playing an unfinished game
>not just buying it in the sale and waiting for the final release next week
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>>249283749
>enemy stands in a puddle of water
>stab the ground with a lightning weapon
>enemy gets stunned by electricity
It's deep enough. Turn based.
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>>249283749

It's turn based, each character gets a certain amount of points to spend on various actions each turn.
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>>249283796
I hope that Warhorse game doesnt go over budget, I want it to release.
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Just bought it and going to wait for official release, I can't wait.

>>249282701

If it was menu based turn based like most then JRPGs, I would agree with you. However, this game has the kind of turn based that I love.
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>>249283830
I'm checking what the classes do so I don't fuck myself over on release.
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>>249283409
Oh dear god, that sounds fun as fuck.
I can make them argue over anything?
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>>249283186
>Romans conquered the entire Europe by using a gladius.
No, they conquered it using good training, turtle shields and SPEARS. You are not going to poke outside of your shield cover with a fucking gladius. The reason gladius is so remember is because of romans. It's not romans remembered because of gladius. It's still a good sword, but it's a side-arm.

>Landsknecht absolutely raped pike formations with their greatswords
They didn't absolutely rape anyone, they just broke the formation. They run in, get the long-ass pikes out of the way, stab a guy or two, and run the fuck away as the rest of the army goes into the breach
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>>249282795
>Remember when CRPGs lasted 150-300 hours
I remember beating Fallout 1 in 15 and a lot of other 90s classics in around 30.
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Wait am I reading this store right?

This is an early access game that has DLC available for it?
What the actual fuck?
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>>249283892
The classes are just preset stuff, you can customise the skills, stats and perks however you like
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>>249282795
lol
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>>249283914
I started playing Fallout a few days ago and I'm pretty sure I got close to finishing it after 15 hours of play.
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>>249283932

>>249283763
>>249283723
And it's out in 10 days
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>>249283932
Try reading harder.
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>>249283896
Whoops, pic fell off
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>just bought Divinity 2
>start it up, so far so good
>MC says Shiny after picking up that Ale
>stuck in endless loading right before the village
Fuck.
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This game looks pretty cool but kinda expensive even for a "sale", will pirate as soon as it's released officially.
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>>249283830
>people wanting to see how stuff works in an rpg
WOW SO UNCOMMON
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>>249283892

Classes don't mean anything, they're just a handful of presets you can use if you don't feel like fully customizing your character.
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>>249284019
>>249284012
Ah okay, I see we've reached the point where not only is day 1 DLC okay but day-9 DLC is even better.

Fuck this hobby.
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>>249284094
It's cosmetic shit that's included in the collectors edition, it's just an upgrade. Now fuck off.
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>>249284094
Apparently it's shit you got for backing the Kickstarter.
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>>249282538
>world cup
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>>249282667
Be thankful the bare bones RPG elements added into most action games didn't mean the death of the traditional RPG like everyone predicted.
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>>249283937
>>249284069
Oh shit, I thought I was just editing the starting bits of that class now I feel retarded.
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>>249283894
Pretty much anything that gives you dialogue options. You can make them get mad and threaten each other, or have one try to seduce the other.
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>>249279419

After Dragon Commander I am waiting before getting it
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Do you have to play the other Divinity Games in order to understand the story ?
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>>249279419
Check the most recent update OP

>Spears are now STR based weapons with STR requirements
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>>249283796

>remove day night cycles + npc schedules

Into the trash it goes. And to think I was actually looking forward to a real RPG for once. Thats what I get for trusting kikestarter. There was literally a stretch goal specifically for day/night cycles and NPC schedules. It was the million mark.

Fuck Larian.
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>>249284142
>It's just content behind a paywall for a game they're trying to sell, fuck off

>>249284145
Why does that matter and how would I know that?
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Should I buy this?
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>>249284243
>gt+watching+a+show+about+a+fat+girl+_6868bd607e9326266206d31c60f07b3b.jpg
The fuck are you doing
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>>249284193
No, all games are standalone storywise.
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>>249284254
>how would I know that?
By not being a tard.
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>>249284193
I played a good chunk of Divinity 2 and from what I can tell, aside from taking place in the same world this game has almost no connections to it.
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>>249284254
>It's just content behind a paywall for a game they're trying to sell
It's an option for people who might go "hmm I think I want to get the CE instead" after buying the normal edition. Fuck's sake.
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>>249284254
You wouldn't which is why I just told you?
And the problem with day1 DLC is that it's content made during development and taken out to sell to people.
This content was made as an incentive for Kickstarter backers.
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>>249284192
did dra commander suck?
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>>249284293

Not really, it's a far past prequel to the other games.
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>>249284254
Its not much diffrent than day one dlc, but its made so that the kickstarter rewards wouldnt be exclusive to kickstarter people and you'd have a chance to try them out too. Its not something thats been taken out and resold.
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So is this version the full game or should I wait 10 days to pirate it?
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Looks pretty good and I'm always up for a promising RPG so I just bought it. What are the classes like? I'm usually a DPS Warrior or variant, but this game looks pretty spell heavy.
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>>249284414

Half of it sucked. The RPG elements were great.
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>>249284243
it's a valid criticism. the didnt fucking deliver
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>>249284414
Idra Commander?
I'd play that.
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>>249279854
Spears are fantastic weapons. One simple thrust instead of a swing and your enemy is easily fatally injured
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>>249284464

You can only play about 1/4th of the game and beta saves won't carry over to the full release.
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>>249284414

Not really, it was ok but the RTS section were really unispired and the 4X sections weren't tht great either.

I guess I was expecting too much from an hybrid game.
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>>249284464
The full game is in 10 days.
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>>249284552
>>249284534
Alright, thanks
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>>249284030
Why do people never portray Romans with spears? They're all to busy masturbating each other over they're stupid long knives.
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Does this game have big fat paladin hammers and can I be a zealous paladin?
That's all I need to know before I buy it
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>>249284668
I don't remember big two handed hammers but you can make your character a paladin if you feel like
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>>249284172
That's fucking fantastic.
Welp, maybe i should really buy it and roleplay as this tards.
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>>249284627
Because swords are apparently cool and spears are not.
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>>249284552
They been saying the for years.
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I played it with a friend recently. It seems pretty neat, has potential. I liked settling arguments with rock paper scissors.
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>>249283583
>>249283670
HEIL HITLER EINS ZWEI DREI
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>>249284712
aslong as there's fat weapons I can smash shit with I'm ok
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>>249284627
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>>249284892
I didn't play much but I had two handed swords and axes on my Knight
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>>249284668
I don't remember seeing two handed hammers, but you have complete control over exactly how magical/physical your character is and any class can learn any spell, so you could definitely be very paladin-like.

I saw plenty of opportunities for zealotry in the dialogue options I came across. Both of the party members I recruited were pretty zealous as well, so you'd likely get along with them.
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>>249284748
This chinese cartoon any good?
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>>249279854
M-MUH SPEARS
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>turn based

dropped, thanks kickstarter for ruining another franchise
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>>249284842
drei, vier, offizier
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>>249284960
That wasn't the spear's fault
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>>249284627
>Why do people never portray Romans with spears?
For same reason spies and special agents are portrayed with pistols. Because spears are boring and practical, while swords are cool and interesting.
That, and getting a kill with a sword was considered much more cool than killing someone with a spear, because you'd have to be very lucky or very skilled. Knight novels at medieval and Renaissance times popularized swords in main culture. Plus, when firearms became a thing, there were no use for a spear, but there were still uses for sidearms like swords. Although one can argue that a long musket with bayonet affixed is basically a spear itself
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>>249284971
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>>249284770
You must be mixing this turn based game with DayZ.
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>>249284960
But that spear won against the sword.
It was the egoistic macho that lost against the raging barbarian.
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>Get to the warehouse in the first city
>Talk and beat man into letting me in the storage
>I win, he lets me take what I want
>Take sword of desk
>DIE CRIMINAL SCUM
Fuck man. Come on.
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>>249284748
>Roleplaying as the Solver of All Formulas
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>>249284971
Take a look at this poor tasteless faggot
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>>249284929
Adaptation ends on pretty much the most interesting point and there never will be a sequel. Original is a great fantasy novel though.
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>>249284971
>>249285060
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>>249279419
How does a game in beta have dlc already?
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>>249285163
Read the fucking thread you mongoloid
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>>249285060
>>249285147
This faggot again.

Last time you confused Torment with Pillars, now you cant tell appart Divinity from Numanuma
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>>249285060
>>249285103
>>249285147

that's all nice and epics but the other Divinity games weren't turn based, this is like turning Diablo into a turn based game and telling people to "deal with it" because it's ok to rape franchises when you like it
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>>249283896
>You are not going to poke outside of your shield cover with a fucking gladius
Except that's exactly what they did. Why do you think they used a scutum, a big shield if they mainly used spears? A sword was their primary weapon, the pila were a sidearm.
Archers were out of favour, and cavalry was lackluster because the stirrup came later on.
You know that they fought Mithridates, who heavily relied on phalanxes, and won using A GLADIUS?
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>>249285249
No they weren't, but Divine Divinity was supposed to be at first and they've been wanting to make a turn based game for a long time
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>>249285249
Yeah, its like designing Diablo for consoles and scaling down everything for it, nobody would do that.
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>>249284627

Because pilum was primarly used in defensive formations or thrown at the enemy. The standard weapon for a roman legionary was a fucking sword. Why? They started with spears and fighting in hoplite like their idolized greekfucks had done before them. Then they figured out that this shit aint so good in shitty terrain. They copied the samnites swords and proceeded to rape europe.

But as anyone but a retard might tell you, an army isn't made up of ONE WEAPON ONLY. They'd have a ton of auxilia armed with spears/bows/slings what have you.

Another point is, war isn't fucking rock-paper-scissor even if rts games try to tell you differently.
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>>249285232
>Last time you confused Torment with Pillars
No, retard. You confused me talking about Torment or Pillars when I was merely talking shit about rtwp. Because that's what it is, shit.
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>>249285249
>the other Divinity games weren't turn based
You're right, but they didn't have the same mechanics either. They were all different from eachother and so is this game.
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I'm at the start where you have to get past a poison cloud. How the shit do you combine items?
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>>249282848
Real life isn't fucking Dark Souls what are you going on about
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>>249285249
Yes, making combat better by making it tb is like consolization.
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>>249285403
Are you dumb? Just drag and drop one item on another.
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>>249281175
Spears are highly versatile, what are you talking about? You can pull it back if the enemy gets close and even aim your stabs at any part of the enemy's body.
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>>249285297
>A sword was their primary weapon
Technically, the shield was their primary weapon.
Regardless, that huge ass shield was used for a very small period of time.
As was that armor design.

The roman empire used archers, slingers, cavalry, light infantry with spears and skirmishers with long weapons.
It wasnt these half cyborg heavy infantry tanks that you see in EVERY SINGLE MOVIE EVERY HOLY SHIT SO BAD.

A roman legionnaire looked just like the barbarian he was hitting for most of the existence of the empire.
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>>249282848
>this entire post
You sure love to pretend you're knowledgable.
Does your knowledge also explain why rapiers were never used in combat situations, only fencing?
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>>249285376
So youre just shitposting.

Got any other meme pictures?
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>>249285459

All it does is replace each other in the inventory slot
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>>249285543
Then you can't combine them. What are you trying to make?
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>>249285505
What are you talking about?
Have you never played Fire Emblem?
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>>249285505
Actually America was conquered with rapiers.
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>>249285308
>>249285321
>>249285390
>>249285420
>>249285443

enjoy your turn based shit then kids, you sure do fit in the hardcore and /vr/ crowd for liking turn based
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>>249285534
>just shitposting.
No, laughing at how bad rtwp is when discussing combat mechanics in a video game is hardly shitposting.
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>>249279419

Can you dual-wield axes and hammers?
Is there a dwarf, orc or goblin race?
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>>249285602
Thanks, I have and I will.
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>>249285602

Will do, thanks!
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>>249285602
Thanks, mate, you too.
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>>249285602
i like all combat systems
turn based, rtwp, rt, phase

how mad are you right now?
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>>249285602
>you sure do fit in the hardcore and /vr/ crowd for liking turn based
Am I supposed to be offended? Am I supposed to pretend JA2, X-Com, Wiz 8, ToEE and others have bad combat systems?
Am I supposed to think you're not literally mentally handicapped?
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>>249282848
Good luck getting a rapier through even the chainmail protecting the joints you daft cunt. Rapiers are basically just longswords hammered out to be even longer so all you're gonna do is break your own sword.
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>>249285495
Unrelated to the topic you're discussing kinda, but are there any accurate depictions of what the roman legionnaires looked like? All I ever find when searching for it is the dudes with ornate helmets and lamellar armor and as you said, that's not really right
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>>249285602
I will think about you while enjoying it, friend :)
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>>249285602
Why not enjoy both, you cancerous shit for brains.
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>>249285495
A shield isn't a weapon, but I understand what you're implying and you're right. Of course they used everything, but a sword was their primary weapon not a spear(at least later on).

>A roman legionnaire looked just like the barbarian he was hitting for most of the existence of the empire.
Yes because barbarians weren't unwashed savages like R:TW wants you to think. They had good weapons and armor, formations(roman shieldwall was copied and taken directly from northern barbarians and then improved) but they lacked government.
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>>249285652
>>249285674
>>249285680
>>249285759

of course you'll do, you people don't care about gameplay but only about appereance

>>249285824

I enjoy both, I am not like you

>>249285714

whatever kid, keep name dropping old games you are really showing off your gamer cred
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>>249282848
The entire point of chain mail has ALWAYS been to stop from getting stabbed. There is no chain mail with huge rings that you can poke through.
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>>249285745
Depends on the era. The ones doing most of the conquering would be equipped with a hamata, a Gaelic type helmet with a scutum and a gladius with two pila.
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>>249285981
Smells like underage.
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>>249279419
Last patch made spears into strength weapons OP
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>>249285981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
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>>249285981

That's nice, dear.
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>>249285082
I wonder if there any spell in this game that allows you to do this.
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>>249285986
Point of chainmail is to not get slashed. You can still stab through it.
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>Have a little over $50 and don't get paid until Tuesday.
Should I?
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>>249285981
Have a great day little buddy, now shoo the adults are talking.
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>>249286102
You're not gonna simply stab a guy through his rings. He has padding underneath and no weapon is small enough to go through the rings.
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>>249286151
Ye
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>>249279419
>damians story 3
No thanks.
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>>249285745
If you mean armor, they either wore just clothing and padding (archers, slingers, light cavalry) and a helmet, or a loose chain with some clothing on top of it and a helmet.
Their shields were ellipse shaped mostly, and smaller than the big square boards they are known for.

They would have mostly had short hair and shaven faces, as was fashionable until christianity kicked in.
After that it was all long hair and long beards, and armor got heavier, especially for cavalry.

The lorica segmentata wasnt used as much, despite everybody defaulting to it when talking about romans.
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>>249286151
for 30 buckaroos you'll get more than that out of it.
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>>249285505
>rapiers were never used in combat situations
Look at this moron
Look at him and laugh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapier
>The rapier began to develop around 1500 as the Spanish espada ropera, or "dress sword".The espada ropera was a cut-and-thrust civilian weapon for self-defense and the duel, while earlier weapons were equally at home on the battlefield
It was used as civilian weapon, no doubt about that, but it was also used on battlefields.
>>249285717
>Good luck getting a rapier through even the chainmail protecting the joints you daft cunt
What, he has chainmail in his helmet, too?
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>>249285847
Barbaros did just basically mean outsiders
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>>249286249
>>249286024
>hamata
Was just posting the lorica hamata, but my image didnt upload for some reason.
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>>249286151
just pirate it
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>>249286151

You got everything else in your life covered? Like food and rent? Buy that shit.
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>>249279419
I've seen some screenshots of this.

Is it related to the other Divinity games in any way?
Who made it?
Is it _________fun?
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>>249286381
>pirate the game, not supporting the very few good devs left in the industry
Shove it up your ass captain hook
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>>249284243
>>249284494
The kick starter never reached 1 mil, meaning no stretch goal.
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>>249286327
I thought that barbarians was greek or something and literally means "blah-blah-ians" because they could not understand them.
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>>249286327
We dont know what it means, since it changed meaning over time, but most historians still agree that originally it meant people who sounded like dogs (bar bar bar) when they spoke.
So what greeks considered non-greeks to sound, most likely the slavs.
Later romans started calling germanics barbarians, despite them not barbarbaring as much when they speak.

Its worth mentioning here that we call hooligans "vandals" these days because of the romans and their dislike for germanics.
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>>249286420
It's a prequel to everything except Dragon Commander

Larian made it

Yes it's fun as fuck
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>>249284510
Only if you can land the hit
all it takes is one skilled sidestep and it's all over
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>>249286420
Is it related to the other Divinity games in any way?
Prequel

Who made it?
Larian?

Is it _________fun?
Yes
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>>249286392
I don't have a life or a purpose. Not even a goal.
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>>249286102
Spend two fucking seconds on Wikipedia before you spew retardation everywhere. Slashing yes, AND STABBING.
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>>249286182
You're not going through the rings, you crush through by grabbing the sword by the hilt and stabbing the guy in his weak spot. Usually this would be around arm joins, throat, face etc.
You're not going to go at him from the frontal torso.
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>>249286430
But their other games were mediocre at best, shill.
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>>249286301
>using a rapier to hit someone through the exposed parts of the helmet

Good luck doing that with one hand you daft cunt. And of you're gonna half sword it then any weapon would've been better for the job.
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>>249286543

Then you know what you must do.
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>>249286520
>>249286539
I guess I'll take a look at it then.
Thanks.
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>>249286194
>>249286298
>mfw something bad happens between now and tuesday

>>249286392
Pretty much, I'm just pessimistic as fuck.
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>>249286327
Yes, it means non greeks.
Or non greeks and romans from the roman point of view.
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>>249286568
>you like thing, therefore you must be a shill
Fuck off
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>>249279419
I´ll pirate it when its fully released
I just bought Divinity II to make up for it, sorry devs-kun but i dont have much money
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>>249286648

Buy it my nigga.
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>>249286349
That's late era though
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>>249286520
>fun
How fun we talking about? Compare it to another game. 250 words or less.

I can't be dropping 32 dollarydoos willy nilly.
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>>249286568
I don't know about you but all the mediocrity in Divine Divinity was instantly upgraded to awesome the moment I jumped off a large cliff and turned into a dragon mid-air.
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>>249279419
Ok, so the Early Access build just finished downloading, anyone have anything they want me to show them from it?
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>>249285847
>Yes because barbarians weren't unwashed savages....

I meant they had barbarian oval shields instead of the civilized roman square shields.
I meant their shields were barbarian custom painted with whatever god or thing you like and not civilized standardized paint.
I meant they wore pants like barbarians and not the greek/roman robes or however they were called.
I meant they were armored with chain and clothing like barbarians and not with the lorica segmentata ot suits of plates like in the movies.

They were very much the same, and it went both ways: barbarians improved their fighting and gear to match the romans, and romans downgraded their elite force to match the barbarian numbers with cheap gear and cheap men.

The roman empire was started with roman legionariesâ„¢, but was expanded and maintained by germanic soldiers.
Roman soldiers were barbarians paid with roman gold and looked the part.
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>>249286539
>Is it _________fun?
Who gives a shit
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>>249286738
Think ToEE combat+ultima exploration mix kind of fun.
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>>249286551
Do you have any idea how long a rapier is? Ever noticed how people use the rapier one handed? Good luck aiming for that weak spot with two hands on the hilt though.
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>>249286738
I'm not going to write a god damn essay. Think of a mix of ToEE and Ultima with Larian's writing and you get the idea.
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>>249279419
>turn based

and I was really hyped for a second there.
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>>249286481
Slavs first encountered the Greeks during times of Byzantium so that is not plausible. Although they could have easily thought the same of Thracians, Illirians, Dacians.
Fun thing is, Slavs even nowadays called Germans "mutes" (nemec) because they couldn't understand them in their initial contact.
Vandals were a Germanic tribe, they ransacked Rome, destroying pretty stuff just because. From then on anyone who demolished shit for no reason was called a Vandal.
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>>249286912
How does it feel to be 12?
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>>249286904
>250 words
>Essay
That's not even enough words for an abstract.
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>>249286790
if only rome knew how to train a good cavalry force
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>all these people pretending they know history
Rapier got into the battlefield at the same time that gunpowder did.
Heavy armor was out of fashion, because lolguns.
It was used widely and successfully, but the main sword at that time (and centuries later) was the cavalry saber.
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>>249286912
Do you honestly enjoy mindless loot treadmills of Diablo?
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>>249286983
>How does it feel to be 12?

The irony of this statement can't be understated
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>>249286895
I had no idea you were even talking about a rapier. Disregard whatever I said.
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>>249287023
I don't really give a shit
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>>249286881
>>249286904
>ToEE combat+ultima
Good enough.
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>>249287042
No, but I like RPGs to be good and not have turn based combat.
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>>249285632
Why don't you just go back at claiming that Numenera and Planescape are set in the same setting
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>>249286912
Go back to steamcommunity pls.
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>>249286881
tfw ToEE will never be bug free and playable
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>Hit sneak
>Turn into a rock
>Backstab skeleton from rockform
I already like this game
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>>249286912
Your lose. I'm hyped.
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>>249286972
>destroying pretty stuff just because
Roman propaganda. I bet you believe Carthaginians sacrificed children too.

>>249287031
Rome had a strong cavalry force.
It was an important part of the army.
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>>249287031
Rome had a good cavalry force. They had constantly outfought or at least maintained ground with cavalry that were regarded as some of the best in the ancient world.

This is the native equites and the allied cavalries, not auxiliaries.
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>>249286912
ahaha i know rite

fukkin pick a move games their so slow and gay
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>>249287167
>hit sneak
>turn into a snowman because a plain bush would stand out in the snow
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>>249287193
but their cavalry were always destroyed by barbarian cavalry. obviously they were doing something wrong
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>>249284974
Fünf, sechs, alte Hex'.
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>>249287031
Scythians invented the stirrup. Without the stirrup you can't control the horse effectively, you have no balance and you can't really fight without the risk of simply falling over. Not to mention that getting pushed off the horse would be easy as shit.
That's why they didn't favor mounted combat, also because of terrain.
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>>249287118
>go back
That'd imply I did that even once, tard.
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Can i play as a skeleton?
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>>249287262
Their gods weren't with them.
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>>249287292
sure thing m8
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>>249287235
>It lifts up and does that cartoonish sneak-stepping
YES
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>>249287286
they didnt geld their combat horses either, so they were unruly
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>>249287131
Go back to 1994? Why the fuck does turn based play exist in any game still
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Fuck.. I'm almost there for buying.

30 bucks is my absolute limit for vidya
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>>249286881
>>249287159
>TFW Keep on the Borderlands mod for ToEE is finally gonna released this year after the main dev was gone for years.
http://www.co8.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=45
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>>249287262
Yeah, bringing less dudes.
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>>249287340
Glad you finally understand how stupid you were.
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Reminder that you can be a dick as thief and steal peoples furniture/containers/ anything that you have strength to lift and isnt nailed down.
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>>249287369
too obvious
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>>249287116
Do you know what an RPG is? It's a Role-Playing Game. You're not playing as yourself, you are roleplaying a character. That's why we have stats and skills. You can know how to make thermite or perform CPR, but your character doesn't. Same goes for attacking. It's not you who fights, it's your character. You just give him pointers, and that's quite a mess in real time. The only one who did it sorta well is WoW, but even that was bland and just spamming attacks. To perform impressive acrobatic tricks by several characters at once, you require turn-based gameplay
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>>249287385
It's the best game in 10 years.
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>>249286912
Why do people hate turn-based games so much?

You remind me of my friends from elementary school.
Jesus Christ, those faggots were retarded.
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>>249287385
It's well worth it and you can get it for less on key sites.
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>>249287369
Because it's better for many things than real-time :)
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>>249287423
>being this platinum mad

sure m8
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>>249287369
So you could be a cancerous shitposter of this board.
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>>249287385
If any title's worth 30 dollaridoos, it's this one.
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>>249287461
Because they're too ADHD for anything a tad slower
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>>249287327
No but you can make your own campaign about being a skeleton doing skeleton things.
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>>249287457
>>249287482
>>249287538

Alright fuck it. I'm in.
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>>249287461
Underage who only know turn-based from shitty jrpgs.
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>>249287461
>Why do people hate turn-based games so much?

Because it's the mark of a lesser quality, less fun game. It pretty much always has been. It's why I skipped over final fantasy to play baldur's gate and icewind dale.
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>>249287562
Hope you enjoy the game anon :)
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>>249281175
this is the katana faggot ashun dweebboi
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>>249287540
Fuck off mate, I have ADHD and if anything turn based is easier for people like me since you don't have to be super focused and micromanage shit.

I like TB because it lets you take things at your own pace
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>>249287392
is this worth looking forward to?
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>>249287461
Yeah my friend, although hes a good person, is a total casual and cant play a game that isnt force feeding him constantly.

He likes final fantasy though.
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>>249287606
>It pretty much always has been.
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>>249287461
People? is just idiots that either grow up with final fantasy and other shit JRPGs instead of proper games like JA2 and x-com or underages that have not idea what they are talking about.
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>>249287461
CoD audience, idiotic children, faggots and cunts.
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>>249287606
>I never played Fallout, Xcom, Jagged Alliance, Temple of Elemental Evil, Wizardry or HoMM
I feel sorry for you
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>>249287262
Not true. Their cavalry has proven themselves superior to gallic during the Samnites wars, the Teutons in the crimbri war and they even bested the Seleucid Cataphracts during the battle of magnesia.
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>>249287606
You think FF is the only turn based combat system around?
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>>249287606
>skipped over turn based jrpg for turn based wrpgs
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>>249287630
>I have ADHD

Selfdiagnosing is superfun
Are you also autistc (because you're socially awkward) and clinically depressed (because you're sad sometimes)?
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>>249282660
enjoy ban
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>>249287719
2 wars and 1 battle out of thousands and thousands sounds more like an exception than the rule.
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>>249287739
Those latter two games weren't turn based, don't make shit up.
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>>249287562
Another marketing success
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>>249287747
Dude, you've been on the internet for far too long.

I have ADHD, I have the papers for it. From actual doctors.
Self-diagnosing is for chumps & Americans.
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>>249279419
Like many people in this thread already told you. Don't play Early Access RPGs. It's kinda silly. It works well with titles like DayZ and such but why would you want to redo story heavy elements of an RPG? Wait for the game to be released
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>>249287815
Everyone took turns rolling the dice
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>>249287841
Word of mouth = marketing.
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>>249287815
>BG and ID aren't turn based
???
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>>249286904
>>249287235
Based Larian.
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>>249287606
>he thinks "turn based rpg" means "final fantasy combat"
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>>249287801
>thousands and thousands of battles

What do you think war was like back then m8?
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Who here planning on making their own campaign with the toolset?
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>>249287917
Nobody is taking turns, everyone is acting at the same time.
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>>249287858
>I have ADHD, I have the papers for it. From actual doctors.

Sure you do m8 you're such a special snowflake
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If I buy early access I won´t have to buy it again after it releases?
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>>249288007
Of course not, why would you?
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>>249288001
You take turns throwing dice and acting out the results of the rolls.
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So, how was Divinity 2 again? I think I should play it.
Loved the first one, kikestarted this one, but gave up on Beyond Divinity in like an hour and never came back to actually playing the series.
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>>249288001
I think you literally have no idea what makes a game turn based. Figures since you're obviously a mongoloid.
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>>249287606
Except that for anything that requires micromanagement of a group of characters turn base is the only way to go, otherwise you sacrifice depth.
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>>249288054
Is this why it's possible for entire parties to move at the same time?
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>>249287992
Of course. I've been coming up with shit like how classes are tied to the campaign's story and mapping out the world
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I bought it. Should i wait or just play...
I know the saves wont carry over. B-but... I want to play
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>>249288001
By this logic, FF hasn't been turn-based since 1992. Holy shit.
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>>249288004
Stop bullying the anon.
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>>249288146
Wait for release. Do it.
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>>249288089
Insanely good writing and funny quests.
Horrible and boring combat.
Interesting gameworld.
God-tier ost.
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>>249288136
You can move at the same time in this game too, the combat is turn based.
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>>249288108
>I think you literally have no idea what makes a game turn based.
Characters taking turns is a pretty good idea.
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>>249288136
Movement in combat is still regulated by DnD turn based rules.
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>>249287893
Dice rolling was done in real time by the computer, not unlike how hundreds of other real time games calculate what's going on.
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>>249288146
Might as well try it for a short time, but don't be like me and play the first city over and over for tens of hours, you'll just ruin the full release for yourself.
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>>249288223
Okay ;_;
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>>249287612

H-here I go
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>>249288252
No, there's more than that. As I said, you sound like mongoloid.
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>>249288189
How?
>>249288249
Not in combat.
>>249288258
So where are the turns? You know, while one guy moves the others wait.
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>>249281408
This video is painful to watch. Thanks you autistic fucks
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>>249288146
play one of the earlier ones?
refreshing lore and all that shit
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>>249288258
and translated into real time gameplay.
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I am dicking around in the character creator, anyone want me to post all the starting skills?
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>>249288146
You can play and explore until you reach the gates of the first town. Thats what i did. Over and over for 14 total hours.
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Has any company besides CDPR allowed people to activate a game they bought on steam on GOG as well?

I'm assuming this is coming on out GOG at some point but I'm getting the steam version now.
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During the Editor stream, did they confirm being able to edit models\textures for equipment and player models?
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>>249288341
And you sound like a dipshit who thinks infinity games were turn-based. Now that's sad.
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>>249288146
Wait and play the finished game when it's released. Replay Divine Divinity to kill time.
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>>249288189
But in FF everyone isn't acting at the same time, you sit there and bring up your action on a menu while your opponent waits
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>Digging up graves
>Dig up the grave of a dead girl with her mother standing right next to me.
>Mother attacks
>Kill mother
>Loot the bodies
>Dig up another grave
>A fucking bomb explodes in my face, killing me
Welp.
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>>249288371
>Not in combat.
You dont move "at the same time" in combat in any of the other games listed as well.
Moving your character made him skip a turn, so other characters or enemies that havent moved attacked twice before you can attack once.
You spend your "turn" moving.
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>>249288443
I hope so, I want someone to make Guts and his merry band so I can make my own headcanon story that doesn't end on a boat.
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>>249288443
Nigga you can do whatever you want in the editor. Carte Blanche.
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>>249288508
>You dont move "at the same time" in combat in any of the other games listed as well.
In infinity games you do.
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>>249288561
>you hit
>enemy hits
>you hit
>enemy hits
>you move
>enemy hits
>you hit
>enemy hits

Seems like you are taking turns.
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>>249288554
Can you also make a campaign with only 1 main character or do you need to use 2 each time?
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>>249288525
I'd play it
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>>249288651
Thanks
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>>249288625
I could copy paste a combat log from early WoW and say WoW was turn based by that fucking logic.
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>>249287031
Late roman empire (or Byzantium) had the best cavalry force at the time.
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Can I be a bard or a buffer class, or some sort of summoner?
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>>249279854
spears are so iconic across all human cultures that they are practically the symbol for war.
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>>249288728
WoW uses a turnbased system, but it doesn't have turn based gameplay.
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>>249288634
Don't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to
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>>249288625
>your entire party can move
>meanwhile the entire enemy party also moves
Sounds like real time.
>>249288728
According to those tards even fps games are turn-based because you shoot, they shoot, you shoot, they shoot.
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>>249288497
>while your opponent waits
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>>249288728
In WoW if you have a weapon with 1.5 attack speed and the enemy has a weapon with 3.8 attack speed you wont take turns hitting each other.
Also there were many instant actions, where in D&D games you only act during your own turn.
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>>249288634
Have you ever used the editor of Warcraft 3 or Starcraft 1/2? It's complete carte blanche, you can do whatever the fuck you want with it. Want to make a campaign with 4 players? Go ahead, just script a module that allows for 4 players. Want to replace the players with orcs? Go ahead.
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>>249288792
>uses a turnbased system, but it doesn't have turn based gameplay.
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>>249288230
looks like I have a plan for next few days, thanks
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>turn based

Die in a fire.
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You asshats, even spell durations are measured in turns in IE games
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>>249288752
There are definitely buff spells, not sure if you could make a character who only uses them or not.

There are summons but you can only have one at a time. I'm not sure if that's one summon for your party or one summon per character though.
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Can anyone provide a link to the latest update/patchnotes? Namely the one that confirms spears are now STR weapons.
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>>249288897
Get the directors cut and not Ego Draconis.
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>>249288742
>or Byzantium had the best cavalry force at the time
Ahahaha, don't mind me, just gonna sweep across this East Europe thing and sow the seeds of cultures and civilizations that exist to this day, while you buttfuck eachother.
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>>249288752
There are buff/negative effect spells and summon spells, so you just build your character that way.
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>>249288881
I only used the Neverwinter Nights toolset to make a module a long time ago. I want to make another one about a skeleton doing skeleton things and maybe get some skeleton friends. But i just wanted to have the player start alone, so i was wondering.
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>>249283041

But it releases on 1st July free on Pirate Bay.
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>>249289014
http://steamcommunity.com/games/230230/announcements/detail/1658762991420390159
ctrl f spears
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>>249282667
Bane?
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>>249288889
Yes, in the combat both participants take turns and there is a turn order, as the player however you aren't permitted to pause between turns, thus there is no turnbased gameplay, but the combat uses a turnbased system.

How can you not understand this? Are you retarded?
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>>249289021
You only sow one seed and the Ottomans took a huge dump on it.
Besides the first 5-6 leaders all of the rest were incompetent morons, to this day.

I guess bad slavic blood ruined the hunnic leadership gene you brought from wherever-you-came-from.
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>>249289050
There is a "Lone Wolf" talent that stops a companion but grants bonuses to stats. Maybe you can force that in a module?
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>>249288954
The game is still not turn based
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I-I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna buy it!
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I heard both Divine Divinity and Divinity 2 are great games, but which one would you suggest for someone new to the franchise?
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>>249289126
>in the combat both participants take turns and there is a turn order
>i shoot
>they shoot
>i shoot
>they shoot
FPS games are turn-based.
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>>249289213
Divine Divinity was the first so that
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>>249289020
I don't think the ego draconis is even still aviable.
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will current save games still work with full release?
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>>249289213
Divine Divinity is close in gameplay style to Original sin.
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>>249279419
Why are there 2 characters?
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>>249289181

It's turn based in the same way DnD is turn based, though Initiative.
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>>249289275
No, it says that in game.
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>>249289213
http://youtu.be/v4HE4Ucsg1I

everytiem
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>>249289298
To penalize people without friends.
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>>249289232

>In FPS games, everyone shoots at the same time


Yes, you are literally retarded.
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>>249289307
Cept it's not. Initiative alone doesn't make it turn-based, it just means who goes first.
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>>249289298
you play as a character with split personality disorder
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>>249289298
Why not 2?
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>>249289193
Jesus Christ, I just saw that the release date is 30th of June, the same day I start my two weeks paid leave.

This is too fucking perfect.
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>>249289050
Seems easy enough, only thing you'll really have to do is make all the extra animations the vanilla skellington set doesn't have.
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>>249289372
rip skellies
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>>249289389
And in infinity games everyone moves at the same time.
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>>249289395
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>>249289213
If you go with first one keep in mind it's kinda slow to start for real. Firs hour or two it feels like some cheap h&s but it keeps getting better and better later on.
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>>249288525
Like killing Griffith?
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>>249289021
>bulgar
>assimilated by the slavs, only name remains
>mongol
>preyed on russian states fighting each other
>completely irrelevant nowadays and use cyrillic writing
These civilizations prospered on pillage and loot, once they couldn't do that anymore they ceased to exist or became irrelevant. That's what you get for being an unwashed horde.
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>>249289446
Youre in for a good time.
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>>249289293
>DivDiv plays like Diablo
>OS is turn based
Not really
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>In library
>This is a library, you can read any book you want!
>take book
>STOP YOU FILTHY THIEF, GIVE THAT BACK

have they fixed that shit?
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>>249289126
>in the combat both participants take turns and there is a turn order
>WoW
>turn order
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>>249279419
Think I'm going to make Croaker and Lady from The Black Company.
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>>249289539
Maybe or maybe not. Griffith dying would be too safe and predictable. Wouldn't be Berserk with a happy ending.
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>>249289739
DD does not play like Diablo, except for combat. There's still a lot of environmental interaction, question and dialogues, I can see what the other guy meant.
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Does anyone know if i install the early access, will the full game just be an update to it? Or will it be a whole new download?
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>>249289446
>>249289193

Do it Ronnie.
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Torrent where?
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>>249289923
They'll patch
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Where does the Dragon Commander come into the mix? It's not a part of "Divinity Anthology" pack.
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>>249289778
In the early access build you have to ask her permission to take books first or else you'll upset her. Not sure if that's any different from how it was when you played.
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>>249282538
>Geneforge
Where my exile 3 bros at.
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>>249289943

There's a torrent up of the beta I think.
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>>249289967
It wasn't ready when the Athology was made, so you have to buy it separately. Chronologically it's the first game.
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>>249290017
But it's not recent. Was uploaded a month ago.
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>>249289543
>be nomad warriors defined by moving and fighting
>conquer nice place
>settle down
>no longer nomad warriors defined by moving and fighting
>somehow that is a bad thing

When bulgars stopped being huns and started being northern byzantines that was a victory, not a failure.
Shame about the balkan legacy of fighting among each other while the enemy prepares to invade. A united balkan would have changed world history greatly.
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>>249290062
Too bad
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>>249289794
Good taste.
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>>249289941
I did it.
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>>249290062

That's all you get, the game isn't even out yet.
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>>249282959
jesus christ you're pathethic as fuck

it's valve's own fault if they are more expensive, why should i pay more for exactly the same product. money is still going to the game developers, just not to valve.

i love valve but fuck them if they are more expensive
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>>249289794
Nice.

Nice.
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>>249287606
>Hating on turn-based games
But that's how people fought in the middle ages.
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>>249289232
But that's wrong, you shoot at the same time and you can shoot any number of times while someone else is shooting.
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>>249290425
It was black & white back then, not turn-based
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>>249290635
And in infinity games you move at the same time as the enemy moves.
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There's no way there's been this much of a misunderstanding about what a turn-based game is this whole time

>tabletop rpgs aren't turn based
>WoW is turn based
haha I'm dieing
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>>249290126
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>>249290101
It almost happened too, There was a Bulgar ruler who established a rather large empire and wanted all European slavs to swear fealty under him and basically become the de-facto East Europe faction. But because he was hunnic in bloodline and because slavs are fickle people that didn't happen and his empire was slowly ruined by his descendants.
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>>249290101
>A united balkan
It was called Yugoslavia, it failed because it's incredibly easy to ignite people with different ideological and religious beliefs.
If balkans got heavily Romanised by Byzantines it would be a different story.
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Is it still possible to play only one character with the "lone wolf" talent?
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>>249280120
>turn based
Suddenly I'm intrigued. I assumed this was ARPG bullshit.
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>>249291238
That's the whole point of the talent.
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>>249290661
How did the armys find each other on the battle field. I mean the landscapes are huge.
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>>249288443
can you make smaller guys?
If I make a wizard I don't want him to be fucking hulk throwing fireballs
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>>249291238
I think it was said you can try, but it wont be easy.

Sounds like an interesting challenge for another playthrough.
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>>249291174
Yugoslavia was created by other nations and it was less than half of the balkan.
Also, it came too late, I was talking about pre Ottoman times.
Once the world leading empires were already established it was too late.
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>>249291238
No, Lone Wolf only affects recruitable NPCs, not the other player character
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>>249282795

You grew older and became less stupid because you sure as fuck don't need so many hours to beat the those old CRPG's now when you're older

Wasn't Torment like only 15 hours?
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OH FUCK, I finally just looked at the description

Is this effectively a new fucking Neverwinter Nights?! Had no fucking idea until just now, early NWN multiplayer worlds were the fucking shit!
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>>249291382
No body sliders. Buff wizard, but the robes hide the figure nicely.
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>>249291137
Bulgars could have done it with the alphabet they got and spread and with their church being recognized and preaching in slavic languages.
Shame about that.
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>>249291270
Stop assuming things and do even the tiniest bit of research
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>>249291305
I guess one had to wear black and the other army white for maximum contrast. That's why chess is like that too
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>>249291572
They did do exactly that, the issue was that the northern slavs were too proud to bend a knee to the man who fucking united almost all of their southern cousins, managed to get recognized as a fucking Emperor, ushered in a golden age of cultural and economic progress, while all they did was rub their dicks on animal furs and go hunting once a week I am not even Bulgarian, I've just studied Eastern European history and it pissed me the fuck off at how stupid some rulers were during that period
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Can you play multiplayer in online worlds like in Neverwinter nights?
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>>249291808
Makes sense.
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>>249279419
I backed the Kickstarter, just watched the unboxing video and decided to get the boxed CE as well

I just really love the Divinity series :(
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>>249291463
Yugoslavia was the 5th most powerful nation in the world in it's peak, it simply was a very unsteady union and that was exploited.
The only way I see Slavs or Balkans working together is by making something similar to HRE, but it's too late now. Also each nation would try it's best to be dominant, and whoops there goes WW3.
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>>249282795
>10 years later
>Remember when CRPGs lasted 1500-3000 hours? What the fuck happened?
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>>249291795
I haven't heard or seen anything about this game, I wasn't going to go out of my way to research every single announced game ever as they happen.

People don't typically make turn-based game anymore.
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>>249291382
Then put a cloak on the fucker. You play most of the game zoomed out anywho
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>>249291808
chess are also turn based
I think we're on to something
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>>249289874
>Wouldn't be Berserk with an ending

ftfy
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>>249291958
Dont know about neverwinter nights. But the multiplayer here is co-op of the single player campaign. You can play with someone else from the start, or your friend can drop into your single player game and take over one of the characters at any time if you'd wish. Theres some dialogue convos built especially for that, if you havent got a friend you can set the AI to have a personality of its own in convos.
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>>249292056
Balkans at the moment:
Serbia hates everybody and everybody hates Serbia.
Romania hates everybody and everybody hates Romania.
Bulgaria hates everybody and everybody except for Turkey hates Bulgaria.
Everybody hates Turkey and Turkey has no relationship with anybody except Bulgaria.
Nobody thinks FYROM exists.
Greece is pretending to be elsewhere.
Croatia is pretending to be part of Italy.
Russia is trying to make Bulgaria a Russian state.
Bulgaria is pretending not to notice.
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>>249291238

I doubt it, you'll probably get stuck at the part where you have to activate four buttons in a limited time
>>
If I ever get into videogame marketing I'll go to /v/.
You guys make me buy so much stuff I prolly never play :(
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>>249292142
Im not a fan of linear ARPG's myself, and i understand how its a bit unusual to find something like that at this day and age. This is quite a treat though.
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>>249281236
>This is a beta build. It is not a finished game. It isn't stable, optimized or balanced, but it is fun

it's dangerous to post something like this on /v/, you should know that
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>>249292395
No one's telling you to buy this game especially not if you don't intend to play it
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>No body sliders
>No way to turn off goofy-as-fuck sneaking
These are probably my only two gripes with the game. Is anyone else sick to fuck of RPGs trying to use a 'cartoony' aesthetic and turning their whole game into a fucking joke? Maybe I just want to make a normal fantasy adventure where not everybody has fat meaty paws that could crush their own pin-sized head if they tried, or make a story that doesn't try to do some 'so deep and clever' deconstruction of the fantasy genre.
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>>249292478
Why?
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>>249287273
Sieben, Acht, gute Nacht
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>>249292142
The times they are-a-changin'
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>>249292056
>making something similar to HRE
That's exactly what was gonna happen as per >>249291137
But slav pride kicked in I guess. It's sad, because if it had gone down like that the world would likely be a much more stable place for the next centuries.
Unions like HRE and the Bulgar Empire, founded on cultural and ethnic grounds would simply exist side by side and rule over their respective people.
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>>249292609
Divine Divinity never took itself serious, in a good way as well I might add.
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>>249292609
It's a Larian game you dumb cunt

They were always campy \ tongue-in-cheek
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>>249292609
if you want a different game, go play a different game? not much you can do about it, and some people seem to like the style, a lot of other people don't give a shit
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What kind of weapons are in this game? Rapiers and Brawling are two big ones for me.
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>>249292308
That's pretty accurate. Although
Serbia and Romania don't hate each other, they never went to war.
Croatians and Italians hate the shit out of each other, Croatia is German vacation home now.
Muslim Bosnia is trying to overthrow it's government, suddenly Serb rule doesn't look as bad as it used to.
Serbian Bosnia pretends not to notice when Muslim Bosnia asks them for support in overthrowing the politicians.
Fake Republic of Kosovo is a Mexican Cartel: The State.
Albania is an irrelevant shithole.
Montenegrins decided they're not Serbs anymore, and Russia both out anything of worth.

Even if Aliens invaded and the whole world united, Balkans is gonna still wage wars with each other.
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>>249292609
>No way to turn off goofy-as-fuck sneaking
Why would you want that. The game is pretty self aware humour wise overall anyway.

I dont like the art direction, but its a personal taste as they executed it really well.

I hated torchlight visual design it looked like ass, but this game polished it really nicely without being it over obnoxious.

Waiting for PoE for serious fantasy. This is diffrent.
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>>249292939
>go play a different game
like what? Who else is making old-style CRPGs except this?

I'm not even saying they shouldn't do it - they seem competent enough to make it work. I just want the option to leave it out in my custom levels.
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>>249292704
>Ottoman Empire walking into a united Slavia instead of the divided Bulgaria and the dying Byzantium

It could have been glorious.
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>>249293019

Pretty standard stuff
Strength: Swords, Axes, Maces, Clubs, come in one hand or two hand varieties, shields Scythes
Dex: Daggers, Rapiers, Bows, Crossbows, spears
Int: staffs

You can punch things but there are no fist weapons or skills
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>>249293204
>Who else is making old-style CRPGs except this?

everybody
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>>249293204

Its probably gonna be easy as fuck. Its just a slapped on model ontop of the sneaking animation.
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>>249293343
>spears
FINALY!
THANKS BETHESDA
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>>249293343
>no fist weapons or skills
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>>249293029
>Serbia and Romania don't hate each other, they never went to war.

Serbia hates Romania, because they consider them the Gypsy kingdom.
Romania hates Serbia because Serbia considers them the Gypsy kingdom.

Basically nobody respects Romania and Romania dislikes being disrespected. Or thats how I see things, anyways.
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>>249293254
Effectively the border would be cut at Constantinople and the Dardanelles. The Ottomans wouldn't have been able to push past that slav wall, and the slavs wouldn't be able to beat back the turk wave.
A natural continuation of this would be an age of trade between West Europe and the Ottomans via the Bulgar Empire, which due to it's natural location, namely being squarely between Asia and Europe would effectively create THE cultural capital of the entire civilized world, the Renaissance would have happened there and everything, simply due to it being in the middle of so many cultures.
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>>249292609
I want dsfaggots to fuck off forever.
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>>249293745
Everyone considers Romania the Gypsy Kingdom.
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>>249293854
And thats why Romanians dont like other Balkanians. No respect.
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>>249293823
I actually think Dark Souls is a shitty game, I just picked the image because it's an example of a more photorealistic aesthetic
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>>249293632

The only problem is that spear users get shafted (GEDDIT?) because spears are a Dex weapon but aren't used by any dex skills so it's better to just use daggers or a bow.

Maybe they'll include spears that require strength but I dunno
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>>249293775
Not sure about that.
The Renaissance happened in the Italian kingdoms because merchants there traded with the infidels despite the church telling them not to.
I think a kingdom united by culture and religion wouldnt allow for trade with infidels and any trade would be halted.
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>>249294045
last build's patch notes
"spears are now strength weapons"
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>>249294045

whoops meant to reply to >>249293621
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>>249292609
Larian has ALWAYS had goofy stuff in their games
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>>249293204
>Who else is making old-style CRPGs except this?

>Might & Magic X
>Wasteland 2
>Pillars of Eternity
>Lords of Xulima
>Numenera Torment
>Antharion
>Expeditions Conquistador

Keep your eyes open, broseph. M&MX was also damn fun
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>>249294139
>dat red mage dissing you
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>>249294195
>most not out yet
>expeditions not really a traditional RPG
>M&M too traditional as in, unlike the infinity engine games and like the older old RPGs
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>>249294195
Do any of those have level editors/persistent worlds a la NWN?
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>>249292609
As opposed to what? Horrible framerates, bad textures and low polys in the Souls series? Don't even try to excuse the armour, there's some pretty ridiculous looking armours in that series too. The cartoony aesthetic doesn't even look bad and there's plenty of games out there pushing out more down to earth aesthetic like Pillars of Eternity and Bloodborne.
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>>249294352
NWN is dead, man. Stop trying to necro it. Its never happening again.
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>>249294351
IE games were shit. I'm glad only Pillars is aping them.
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>>249294121
You're forgetting that the church has way less power over the state in Orthodox countries, practically none. Not to mention that hunnic nomads and slavs dealing with eachother for a few hundred years already solidified the "curiosity instead of aggression" attitude towards other cultures. I mean just the golden age at the end of the 9th century and the begging of the 10th catapulted slavic civilization up to the status of all western civilizations and beyond. Imagine that kind of boom happening again smack dab between Europe and Asia, fueled by trade uninhibited by the church, in a nation where the church doesn't have nearly as much power as in fucking Italy.
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