Persona thread

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What persona /u/ couple do you think has the greatest chance of becoming canon?

>>2351901
NaoRise

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Kawasami is the cutest.

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>>2353384
Super cute.

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>>2351901
I'd give equal chance to all of them, at 0%. Pretty sure that if the Persona franchise is ever going to have a canon yuri couple we have yet to meet it.

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>>2353391
Yeah. They don't want to give us any canon yuri 'cause the (male) MC needs to be able to romance every single girl in the game. Depressing.

>>2353391
How is Hamuko/Aigis or Hamuko/Elizabeth not canon?

>>2353590
Because Hamuko herself is not canon

>>2353590

FeMC isn't canon. I think that's more laziness on them not wanting to rewrite the game's main plot for the female character anyway. It's about the only way I can see it happening again (if we ever see a female MC again...).

As much as I like Persona, I'm getting a little sick of how... vanilla their characters are? For a bunch of outcasts they really are very normal. I'd kinda like to see a western persona ripoff, if for no other reason than they might actually have some gay.

>>2353599

"Outcasts" is a p5 only shtick.

Anyways they're supposed to be outcasts by circumstances, it's to balance out the surrealism of the shadow world/realm thing. Boring but relatable etc.

>>2353598
She's the main character in an official game. Why would you declare her non-canonical, in a franchise where parallel universes are a thing, no less? Do you not like happiness?

>>2353714
P4A and PQ are canonical too and both have established that FemC is not canon.

>>2353717
tfw the only thing canon about p3p is theodore

>>2353065
Why? This ship doesn't even have subtext to back it up.

>>2353717
They're just set in the universe where P3's hero was a guy. They don't in any way decanonize the universe with Hamuko.

>>2353746
>They're just set in the universe where P3's hero was a door
fixed

>>2353763
I'm sure that's a very funny meme.

>>2353774
Door-kun is such a compelling name, and it fits quite well given how much lack of personality he has in the game compared to Yu, Joker and even Hamuko.

>>2353746
where did you get this multiverse idea from? There's a hard reset at the end of innocent sin but I don't recall anything further than that

>>2353812
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Megami_Tensei_Multiverse

This thread has some good posts, particularly #15 and #16: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/945498-shin-megami-tensei-persona-4/47380947

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>>2353384
>>2353385
Sorry Usami-san. She's mine now.

Did Persona 5 have anything?

>>2353900
No.

makoto & haru are cute together

>>2353607

I'd say all the (modern at least) persona games had characters that were supposed to be a little outside the norm, just that's by Japanese standards, so you get "all around good guy with blonde hair" and "nice girl, but is a foreigner" or "does not want to inherit shitty inn girl" or "Really noncommittally gay but likes to sew boy."

>>2353746

Look, that's nice that your fictional character may be fictionally real in some parallel fictional world, but to the game maker, in all materials that continue the story, FeMC DID NOT HAPPEN. It's a important difference when wondering if we'll ever see more of her (no) or more yuri in Persona (almost certainly no).

>>2353931
You're the one who started insisting the fictional character wasn't real up there. I doubt we'll ever see either P3 protagonist again, given that their release would require humanity getting its act together and you can't set a Persona game in a world like that. Insisting there won't be any yuri in the future of the franchise is pure groundless pessimism, when there's already tons of subtext and those two canon possibilities. If even Nintendo is doing gay characters, why wouldn't Atlus?

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>>2354045
>why wouldn't Atlus?
That's the whole damn question.
They did in the past, and other developers aren't ashamed of doing it now. On paper there was no reason the P5 MC couldn't have a gay option, yet Atlus deliberately didn't give him one. When you couple that with their decision to not have a selectable gender MC and their insistence that nearly every girl must be available as a romance option for said MC, that leaves /u/s with little to be optimistic for.

>>2354068
You have to remember that this game started development at the latest in 2010 and possibly as early as 2008, when the political climate in Japan would have been pretty different - they're slow to change, but six/seven years is still a while. Even in that time period alone same-sex marriage was legalised in the US, UK, France, Belgium, Ireland, Luxembourg, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Portugal, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia and Uruguay. The next game might live up to hopes (and if this one didn't spend the better part of a decade in development that'd be nice too).

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>>2353599
>>2354068
I think it's more about what >>2353575 said. The biggest issue with the franchise is that it still tries to pander to otakus by putting-in bland self-insert MC who can romance every girl in the game because he is "special" and "such a nice guy".

This is even more embarassing in P5 where they go for actual serious issues (sexual harassment, political corruption ect) but next to that all your 17yo teenager are both hot and naive, never had boyfriends (even less girlfriends), and find hand holding lewder than /u/ does.

>>2354068
maybe they didnt want to pander to gays?

>>2354080
No game stays unchanged during its development cycle, let alone one that long. Stuffs get added and removed all the time - just look at NoA2 for example, where the game was delayed for several months and the developers used the extra time to add another Lily.

>>2354045
Because they found a way to print money in Persona 4 when they turned it into a harem simulator

They have no reason to pander to yurifags or even fujos (even though they don't even need to, since they ship any M/M pairing anyway), they can just make a roster of perfect waifus and they'll be able to milk the game for the next 8 years

>>2353900
Almost, technically. Up to the player at a certain point at the end of Ann's social link

>>2354087
I wouldn't call Yu bland. Despite not opening his mouth he got quite a bit of personality to him and embodies 'mundane made awesome'. If Yu was a chick you'd be all over that.
Door-kun is a bland piece of shit though.

>>2354167
I'd say Yosuke and Yusuke (heh) would be the closest to a gay option they made.

>>2354191
There's a canon gay option in P2.

>>2354189
When it comes down to it. All Persona (I only played 3-5) protagonists are very similar in personality since they're all silent self-inserts. Basically characters that are brave when the story calls for it, caring, likable to the cast, and humorous (if you choose those options).

>>2354191
In Persona 2 there is a point when you defeat Lisa's Shadow and she confesses that she likes you

From there you get the option to say that you like one of your party members: you can say that you like her back or that you prefer Maya, or you can say that you like Jun or even Eikichi (both dudes)

If you say that you like Jun, Lisa tells "well, if that's your thing, i guess i don't have a chance" but if you tell her that you like Eikichi she doesn't take you seriously, which is bullshit, Jun is a bland faggot while Eikichi is an awesome fabulous faggot, i wanted him!

But it's just gives you a little bit of dialogue that ultimately doesn't really make any difference in the end iirc

If you want to see it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBs6FH7Td2k

>>2354215
Actually hamuko has a lot of personality in her dialog, unlike the male pc, whose options were generic at best.

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>>2354298
Agreed 100%
Not having her in PQ was so much bullshit.

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>>2354244
Innocent Sin had some yuri, too. In the alternate route where you fight Shadow Yukino and Yoshizaka Anna, they kiss each other. Even in the main route you could see Anna having a crush on Yukino later on.
I just found out on the wikia that in the light novel, apparently, she confesses to her (can't check the exact context, but there's a pic to prove what she says) and I noticed someone removed that dumb part about Anna being "bisexual" only because she's friends with Tatsuya. I'm grateful.
Her friend Noriko was also a lesbian, altough her love for Anna was one-sided.

I wish they had kept at least the same amount of yuri in the next game, but considering P1 and P2 were written by other people and are completely different from the newer games... eh.

>>2353906
I never hear anything good about Persona 5.

>>2354298
>I'llsellyouonefor1000yen.jpeg

>>2354215
>Door-Kun staring blankly ahead and always listening to his music and has generic and not even humorous lines
>Yu who is a nice guy and big brother who also gets to do stuff like sitting boldly on the girls side and is a pretty good cook too
>Joker whose appearing bland on the outside is actually the most expressive of the main characters with visible smirkings and casual gestures during and after battles, is pretty handy with technology and is shown to actually have an active libido since he's frequently shown to oggle Ann's legs or tits.
>Hamuko has a fun, girly personality and is a bit of a Rise-light
I think the only REALLY bland on is Door-kun, with the only noteable thing for him being that he is pretty much a six timer since the game only lets him get romantic with girls.

>>2354585
The gameplay is good and the story is decent (I'd say the first 20 hours of the game are fucking perfect actually). But if you want /u/ you're better off looking elsewhere.

>>2354702
I always assumed P3's hero actually was a blank slate and thus capable of taking on different personae because having Death live inside you for most of your life will probably mess you up.

>>2354703
>the first 20 hours of the game are fucking perfect
When it's a glorified tutorial that doesn't let you do anything?

>>2354986
>When it's a glorified tutorial that doesn't let you do anything?
When you had satisfying villains like Kamoshida. Kamoshida was so bad because you actually got to see the bad shit happening right in front of you and it felt very satisfying taking him down. The arc also made Ryuji and Ann pretty compelling characters because Kamoshida was just such a piece of shit presence in their lives whereas the others coming afterwards, it took way longer to sympathize with them especially since they start out in varying degrees of antagonistic towards you (or act retarded like Makoto and made things worse).
Honestly if the group had stayed Ryuji, Ann, Joker, Morgana, Futaba(since you always get a better operator) and maybe Yusuke (so that the basic elements are covered and he got quite a lot of general friendship events after his arc) the game might have been for the better and could have focused on arcs that don't have to put a new party member into the group.

>>2354986
> I always assumed P3's hero actually was a blank slate

nah dude, door-kun is just legitimately boring.
good listener though TM

>>2355011
That's a contradiction, though. The reason they kept adding new party members was to give you a closer look at the villains, since there can be only so many awful people in Ann and Ryuji's lives. It mostly works too, since the lamest villain by far is Kaneshiro, who doesn't have a personal connection to anyone in the group, remarkably stupid blackmail plots notwithstanding.

FeMC and Yukari is my favorite pairing

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People have got a lot better at modding persona these days. What mods would /u/ play? Obvious one being FeMC in FES, though I hear they haven't worked out how to bring over her PSP model to the PS2 yet.

>>2355081
I don't think it worked out too well even in cases like Okumura since Haru is basically just introduced so that we get a new party member and even her personal problems with daddy are pretty meh since it just gets dropped as a huge heap. It probably would have been effective to have her be a character the party interacted with way before that arc instead of introducing her as a one note reference in an anime cutscene. Kinda how Makoto snooped around way before and had thd principal put pressure on her until that and her sister caused her to pull a stupid stunt.
And Okumura sure as fuck didn't rank very high amongst the bad guys and sure as hell didn't strike a chord like Kamoshida, the fucker that caused a girl to try to kill herself and then basically laughed in our faces about it or even Madarame who let Yusuke's mom die so that he could steal her painting. That felt way more personal.

>>2355190

It's the way they present it; Okumura is absolute trash that probably hurts a LOT more people than Kamoshida ever could. His terribly employment practices and complete disregard for other people is insane, as is his use of Haru as a... thing. That Kamoshida somehow comes off worse is just a testament to how bad they wrote him.

>>2355081

I mean, selling high school girls into prostitution is pretty vile by anyone's standards, they just present him very poorly.

>>2355211
It's probably that we also don't see Okumura's workers being treated like shit personally (just in his palace, which id a twisted version ) and we only see the Haru stuff. Whereas we see the shit Kamoshida pulls right in front of us, like him decking Mishima with a volleyball to the face, or the scene where he was pressuring Ann into fucking him over the phone and when she didn't show up because of Joker he went for Shiho with us even see the scene where Mishima is telling her to go to Kamoshida. Okumura is pretty much just a step up from Kaneshiro where we hear a lot of bad shit but don't really see it with the exception of Haru being treated like just another thing. But like I said it might have been more impactful if Haru had been more of a presence throughout the story like Makoto was before she became 'relevant'. For the daughter of such a rich guy she sure came out of the left field in school.

>>2355323

Well yeah, that's what I mean by present it poorly; he is objectively a far worse person, but because they depict it only through second hand information and his own mind, it falls flat compared to rape-teacher.

And I agree with you on Haru, showing her suffering earlier and building up her issues would have gone a long way toward fixing Okumura.

Honestly it would have helped Kaneshiro too. Actually have named students disappear due to his schemes and appear in his mental world as broken dolls. Like if my beloved Newspaper Club Girl disappeared and ended dead/drugged up it would have done wonders in making him more credible. He comes off as a fucking joke in-game as-is.

>>2355323
I'm surprised they didn't have you work part-time at BB Burger to gather information or to verify the stories. It would have been a good way to make the labor part of that arc less abstract. Or, alternatively, make Haru an unrelated poorfag who has to work there to support her family.

>>2355323
Haru was really just "there" for me. I'd say out of P3-P5 she's definitely the teammate that I care least about.

I don't think that there's enough that's unique about her life. She and her father are different personality wise, but isn't the story of an heiress whose father dies and is being married off to some scum too similar to Mitsuru's?

Except Mitsuru's story was built up much longer throughout the game, and her reaction to her father's death was much more significant than Haru's.

>>2355650
She's something of a missed opportunity, but I will always adore her for the scene where the rest of the team meets her and Mona in Okumura's palace and they completely fail to achieve the effect they were going for.

>>2355650
>similar to Mitsuru's

Well most of P5's cast felt rehashed to some extent
.
Ryuji is yosuke 2.0 as in same loser-idiot-rude-good for nothing friend always arguing with a girl on the group and providing cringe girlfriend moments. Even uses the signature phrase "pain in the ass" all the time. Their VA sound similar too.

Ann is the gorgeous model, hot, kind and somehow alone -> Rise

Morgana is the noisy, animal mascott -> Teddie

Makoto is the senior, student council president, calm, rational and responsible -> Mitsuru

Haru is the beautiful, quiet heiress -> Yukiko

Futaba is the shy, reserved navigator -> forgot her name in p3.

And let's not even mention the detective prince thing.

>>2355663
Ryuji also got some Kanji in him and I think Ann is actually more like Lisa than Rise, right down to being a 'foreigner' and the rumors about being a slut. Only the model thing is what she gets from Rise so to speak.

>>2355663
Come on, Futaba's nothing like Fuuka.

>>2353391
Looking at the way Atlas handles the other gay or supposedly gay characters, who are ALL male by the way, if they ever make a character/couple canonically Yuri, they're going to make it so that either one character keeps making that fact into a negative light or they're going to be so flamboyantly gay just to have it as a recurring "LOOK AT THIS GAY COUPLE! IT'S DIFFERENT SO IT'S FUNNY!" type of joke.

Then again, Atlas made Cathrine, which has the best Trans character in gaming, so there's still a chance...

I just finished Persona 4 Golden as my first entry into the Persona series and loved it. Should I try my hand at Persona 3 or skip it and jump to 5?

>>2356068
Skip Persona 3? Sis, that's the best one and the gayest. Especially the P3P female protag version.

>>2356068
Play the PSP version, not only because there is the option to play as a Female Main Character (which makes the game very yuri) but also because you can control your party members like in P4, the game is already hard by itself but the retarded AI in the original/FES versions only make it more frustrating

Also, The Answer campaign on the FES version sucks, it's not worth it, it's just endless dungeon crawling with even more bullshit enemies than in the normal game, if you're really invested in the story just watch the cutscenes on Youtube (and listen to Heartful Cry because it's awesome)

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>>2355696
Yeah this one was far-fetched.

I want an old ass alcoholic/smoking grandma navigator, like the one in that /v/ copypasta. Her persona would probably be the stoner oracle pythia.

"well hamuko ya should stop staring at mitsuru's arse that long or that reaping cunt will come and whoop yers"
When Mara appears :
"heh a dick on wheels, just like my late husband"
I suck at those kind of things but there would be potential.

>>2356068
What >>2356073 and >>2356080 said. P3P has the best MC and a great mood. The squad's dynamics and interactions are the most interesting too imo.

>>2356473
I personally think the squad dynamic in 3 was the poorest of them all. They don't even hang out that much as friends compared to 4 or 5.

>>2356068
You should be aware that 3 hasn't aged that well, the female route isn't canon, and the male character can't even be assed to have his entire party as social links. The story is also less light-hearted than P4, so if you liked that aspect you might be dissapointed.

>>2356500
Pretty much because they're not friends, they're the SEES. There's tension between yukari and mitsuru, between kei and shinji, junpei gets depressed with his gal and can't find comfort in the rest of the team, ect.
There's conflict and tension and you have to deal with it and with the leaders. That's what makes it interesting. And the second awakenings get especially meaningful because of that (yukari and mitsuru resolving their issues together, akihiko getting over shinji, junpei and chichi...).

>>2356534
To each their own then.
I find it personally funny that on a pure technical level SEES gets shown up by some kids from the boonies and vigilantees because they never formed a proper contract and need to force their Persona's out via evokers.

>>2356538
Not really. Dark Hour =/= TV world =/= Mementos and Palaces. The crossover games show that in the same environment the 3 and 4 teams get their Personas out with equal ease.

>>2356563
Actually in Arena it does get mentioned that it's surprising how the investigation team summons their Persona without an Evoker.

>>2356538
And they all fall behind the original that just summoned theirs by shouting Persona at school.

>>2356502
>the female route isn't canon
Please cite someone from Atlus saying it's not canon or stop with that stupid meme.

>>2356582
They were all wild cards too.

>>2356577
I think it depends more on the situation and place than the actual people. P4 characters were never able to summon outside of the TV world originally, and the P3 characters were able to summon just as easily in Arena.

It's usually said that if the phenomenal place disappears then their powers will too(although SEES managed to regain theirs).

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>>2356500
I've got to agree with >>2356534. P3's dynamic is best because the characters have complex relationships with each other, rather than just being friends of the protagonist who sometimes get together to do supernatural stuff and call Yosuke/Ryuji an idiot.

>>2356698
P3 just happens to be the worse game than the latter two.

>>2356698
I prefer the friendship angle since it reminds me of my own school days and all the fun we had during summer.
Of course if you are the type that picked fights and didn't have friends then P3 is probably right up your angle

>>2357054
same, it reminded me of a time when I was hanging out with friends after school and doing fun shit.

>>2357051
>>2357077
Well yeah, but you got to choose who your friends were in school. In Persona most of these team members are brought together by necessity and happenstance, so it makes more sense if there's some clash within the group.

Persona 3 relationships feel more rewarding because they're not easy. So when your characters do get to that level of trusting each other with their lives at the last month it feels more significant.

Yukari starts off disliking Mitsuru, but by the end of the game their relationship feels stronger and more impactful in comparison to anything given in P4 or P5.

Of course, P4 and P5 are perfectly legitimate preferences if you don't like drama and you're more into capturing the feeling of camaraderie and instant gratification, but I've always been more of a fan of character development that goes for the long haul.

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>>2356473
>old ass alcoholic/smoking grandma navigator
I didn't know I needed this, but I definitely do now

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>>2351855

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from the drawthread

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>>2360900

>>2360905
I kind of got into this pairing after the IT boss fight, in whch they killed everything in a matter of turns with psi and frei spells while giving each other cute high fives.

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>>2353847
>Usami: "This bitch."

Imagine Atlus realized at the last minute that P5 wasn't nearly gay enough and hired you, they gayest person they could find, to fix it. Unfortunately, you were brought in so late that you can't add a female Joker. You'd obviously make Yusuke a potential love interest to up the yaoi, but what would you do about the lacking yuri levels?

>>2364428
First off i'd add the option to hook my friends up and play cupid in the case that I have a waifu.

In this order.

>AnnxShiho
>KawakamixUsami
>MakotoxHifumi
>Newspaper chanxOhya (Newspaper chan deserved an s-link imho.)

>>2364428
Here's a chart:
1. a column of every female character
2. the same exact column mirrored
3. draw every line across

>>2364495
We have a winner.

>>2364495
Futaba/Shadow Futaba could be nice.

>>2364651
Makoto x shadow sae
Throw in normal sae for wild card

>>2364490
Not Ohya/her partner?

Personally, I feel like Haru should have had a goofy crush on Makoto you could help her with.

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>>2365145
It's a bit of a crackship and I like age gap.

And it killed me that I couldn't join the newspaper club and help her restore it to it's former glory.

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>>2355083
:)

>>2366339
Please don't use emoticons.

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So, i'm replaying P3P and i just realised this, they redesigned Orpheus (the MCs starting persona, regardless of gender) to be female for the FeMC but still kept the story about him trying to rescue his wife from the underworld (i know it still says "him", but it was probably overlooked since they clearly made Orpheus female)

I mean, i know it was probably not intentional, but they ended up making the manifestation of Minako's personality gay, that actually explains a lot

archiveofourown.org/works/11256927

Smutfic of Makoto being a fucktoy for her female teachers, if that's your thing.

>>2371015
Ancient Greek were all gay anyway

>>2366342
ah my bad. It's nice to see other people also shipping my OTP. FeMC x Yukari is far too rare.

>>2366342
I'd say using emoticons here isn't too bad since unlike other boards we can't fall back to a lot of reaction images.

>>2371163
>>2371248
Just use them sparingly or in moderation

:3

>series about "being true to yourself"
>put on literal personas to make people like you more

Oh the ironing

>>2371422
But all the personas are a part of you.

>>2371015
Best protagonist.

I still don't get what Orpheus has to do with the P3 MC, beyond the connection to music and sort of being a messianic figure in Orphism. However, there's no analogue to Eurydice or a return from the underworld. I can't even write it off as a meaningless reference, since the FES epilogue turns him into Eurydice to Yukari's Orpheus, suggesting some thought did go into it.

>>2371157
Just Sappho and Artemis.

>>2371507
Orpheus because of the initial underworld connection (in his case being the sole survivor and his parents dead, just like Eurydice) and then Thanatos.
Also the whole game's theme is accepting death and moving on.

This thread makes me happy in so many different ways
Thank you kind image posting onee-samas

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>>2371342

>>2364428
Makoto x Haru
Anne x Shiho
Sae x Chihaya
Tae x Ichiko
Futaba x the massive collection of yuri hentai on her computer

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>>2366342
:(

I'm absolutely fine with Makoto and Ann but it has to be the pair that conforms the most to the spitting distance rule in the series. P5 is disappointingly straight even with Mika and Shiho.

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>>2371422
A theme of the series is that who you pretend to be is also who you really are and that other peoples's perception of you also determines who you are. And going by Jungian psychology you will always put on a persona when interacting with someone else.

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Just completed the game and confirm there's absolutely 0 yuri in it (besides using powerful googles on ann and shiho).

Still, best story. Damn.

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>>2375629
Eh, the ending is pretty much the same as in P3&4, only less effective and badly paced. I will admit that teenagers summoning Satan to shoot God in the head did warm my rebellious heart.

>>2375647
>only less effective and badly paced.

Ehhh? I thought it worked out well and realistically especially with how people react to things in the social network age

>>2375647
>that spoiler
is perfect. I mean, that was spot on.

btw where's my nude ann painting ? someone must have done it by now

>>2365232
It would have been interesting. But I thought her and Mishima running around together doing their phantom thieve propaganda thing would hav ebeen great.

>>2364428
Have Sae Niijima have a tawdry lesbian affair with young Hifumi Togo.

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>>2375724
That part was (unfortunately) believable. It's just that pretty much all the same story beats were hit in the previous two games: humans being shits having nasty consequences in the collective unconsciousness, a god-like being standing behind the human villain, things looking doomed before the power of friendship kicks in, etc. It's all very standard stuff for the franchise and doesn't have anything comparable to what made the previous endings special, like the months-long dread and that moment you realize your only attack capable of defeating Nyx costs all of your hp of P3, or the way the interface is trying to keep you from finding the villain in P4. Instead, it just takes ages to reach the final boss after you descend into the bottom of Mementos.

I suppose the juvie part was meant to be something like that, but after that long stretch of a final dungeon, it just felt tiresome and poorly motivated: why exactly did Sae need you to turn yourself in when she couldn't even make any of the charges related to the Metaverse stick but did get Shido thrown in prison for the ordinary corruption you knew little about?.

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>>2375724
>>2375878
I do think it was the most"red-pilled" (fuck /pol/) of all personas

We're in an era where information moves fast, many of the first world country are ruled by corrupted elites. You don't even know who to vote for. And we all know that but no one reacts. Some go on strike, but they're too few, while the others make fun of them because they're idealists and/or stupid and/or lazy or just french and shit never changes

Plus in this day and age with all the shit we've been through recently proclaiming that god is a creation of humanity in their desire of a leading figure that would relieve them of their responsibilites is a good thing. And having satan shoot him is pretty funny and smart.

I do agree that the sae part was weird but yeah

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>>2375908
>the most"red-pilled"
I think the kids call it "woke" in a left-wing context.

I liked that approach and don't really disagree with any of the socio-political ideas in the game, I just wish the ending didn't feel so familiar from the earlier games. But yeah, there's still a teenage atheist in me who cheered at that point.

>>2375921
Well it was either that or the bad ends of the ones before those.

>>2375762

I didn't know how much I wanted this until just now

>>2382351
Sae Niijima x Tae Takemi sounds more promising.

>>2379130
I can't believe those heartless sluts left out Futaba.

Fingers crossed for Minako appearing in that Blazblue/Persona/UNIEL/RWBY crossover game

M-maybe Atlus will remember her this time, r-right guys? please based ArcSys, ;_;

>>2382878
I wish. It would make the game perfect.

I'm not complaining since more yuri is good, but why is Ann/Makoto so popular? Ann's got more romantic tension with Shiho yet I've barely seen anything for that.

>>2382878
they've completeley, utterly, totally forgotten her, sorry anon. It hurts me too.

but if by some miracle she happened to actually be in the game would be an insta-buy

>>2382885
Makoto just has more screentime, characterization and plot relevance than Shiho.

>>2383019
Huh, that's it? Nothing in the way of actual relationship development with Ann.

>>2383054
Pretty much. You're better off just making up your fantasy pairing and stop looking for evidence in the game. It don't exist.

>>2383054
Well, Ann initially blames Makoto for not doing anything about Kamoshida, but later realizes it was unreasonable, apologizes and the two become friends. So, their relationship does develop, but not in a particularly gay direction.

>>2382878
FeMC is the BEST! Better be in the game.

>>2364654
Holy shit I really want this now. Someone needs to write this. Preferably well.

>>2382878
>>2388176
Don't get your hopes up. From what we've seen, they're going to be using assets from the P3MC-less Arena. They've got no reason to put in the extra work to put FeMC (or MaleC, for that matter) in the game when they already have a bunch of P3 characters to port over.

>>2388325
how badly do you want it?

I'll be on a plane ride moving 3 states away maybe I'll be depressed enough to write it

>>2388833
actually just realised there are some on aoo already, so check them out.

>>2388841
You mean this one? Is good, definitely want more.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/11553702?view_adult=true

>>2382878
Why would they add the P3 fem-protag if they canonically DIE at the end of their stories?

>>2390728
I doubt that they're going to make a 4 franchise crossover canon in either of the universes

>>2382878
No Jubei, no buy

>>2390935
Your memes are outdated, now it's "no dub, no buy"

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>>2390867
I like to think Aigis spent hours studying cunnilingus tutorials on the Internet to make sure she could make Hamuko feel good.

>>2390947
I stick to no Jubei, no buy because that was what I did with Central Fiction.

>>2353391
Anna "Eater of Yukino's Carpet" Yoshizaka

>>2382878
> ArcSys
> Based
> On /u/

Like, I love them dearly, I really do, they've made some of my favorite games ever, but in context? Come on. ArcSys has never managed to be a yuri friendly company. Mori's attempt to give Noel a female love interest resulted in two het couples and zero yuri. I absolutely love Ragna, but dude does have a harem. Mai loses interest in girls after accepting her new identity as one. I-No's an evil creep. They pretty much perfectly follow the usual "fan service, badness, or subtext" model of yuri-relevant content.

So, y'know, couple that with Atlus apparently throwing their LGBT fans out with the bath water and the ever more disappointing-in-every-way-including-yuri RWBY, and I have very little hope of getting anything out of cross tag besides a fun fighting game.

Which is fine, really, it's just not what we all do desperately hope for.

>>2392831
And also between the four properties involved they have a massive roster to fit in as it is, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for lots of crazy unexpected characters.

>>2392831
>Mori's attempt to give Noel a female love interest resulted in two het couples and zero yuri
Noel and Makoto are still single last I checked. And past relationships are exactly that, in the past.
But yeah they aren't truly /u/ friendly. But they are also seldom too romance heavy, that's why in Guilty Gear Ky/Dizzy came pretty much out of left field.

>>2393030
Why does her hand, instead of wrapping her girlfriend around her waist, goes deeper inside?

>>2392443
Too bad no one cares about P1 and P2...

>>2393452
Their gameplay is pretty rough, particularly P1.

>>2393498
Weirdly, I prefer P1 to P2 gameplay wise (and honestly as a whole). I played the portable versions though. I did like the part in P2 with Yukino and the possibly gay girl.

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>>2393498
I agree that P1's gameplay is rough. I got the portable version after P3 and P4, so it fucked me up a lot, at first. However, I enjoyed the plot of the first games much more compared to the most recent. They have a different "feel".

What is the chance to have our girl back in the new P3 dancing spin off?

>>2394094
Less than 0%

>>2394094
as high as having her in PQ2

... what >>2394289 said. fuck atlus.

>>2394457
The dancing game we at least have a shot at getting her as a noncanon DLC character.

>>2382885
I'm playing it right now, the little scene they have in the student council room after Makoto awakens her Persona is pretty cute, they kind of remind me of Mitsuru and Yukari but not as gay, still works for me

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>>2382915
Someone on the p5 english pre-release stream called her Minako and said she was a big part of why they loved persona 3. At least Atlus USA remembers her.

>>2406511
Haru is totally feeling up Makoto's ass.

>>2364428
I'd tell them to release the game as it was and wait for the inevitable "Persona 5: Crimson" to add all the gayness (and i would also ask them to make it avaiable as a DLC). And amongst the new features to include a FemJoker option where you can date Futaba (because in my opinion, out of all the PT girls she's the one that's more likely to be bi) and also give the Male Joker the option to date Yusuke (same reason as Futaba, out of all the boys i think he's the most likely to be bi, and i'm just going to say that even as a straight guy i think Yusuke is cute as fuck)

Plus, with Male Joker out of the picture either the significantly change the game making Ann x Shiho and Makoto x Haru become more googleable or they don't change much and FemJoker is going to surpass Minako in the yuri harem department

>>2406958
Any thoughts on the dateability of the non-PT female confidants? Personally I'm thinking that Tae (the doctor) might be bi same with Ohya. No idea about Hifumi, Kawakami, or Chihaya though.

>>2409087
>Chihaya
Have you ever heard of a new age hippie who isn't bisexual?

>>2409087
I guess Ohya and Tae could be too, their confidants are about them trying to save a girl up until rank 9 when suddenly they become interested in Joker. But i was going for something more reasonable like in Fire Emblem Fates where there is one same-sex option for both genders

>>2409120
>reasonable
>Fates
Girl pick one or the other. You can be reasonable and have multiples.

>>2409105
I don't know any hippies, so I wouldn't know.

>>2409122
I haven't played Fates by the way (i don't even have a 3DS) i only saw the news about it having same-sex marriage options, i just like to have low expectations, though a FeMC alone is already unlikely as it is

>>2409131
Ask the nintendo thread sometime about it, and you'll find there's hints to more but, haha, waifu system fucks over characters and their personality.

>>2409120
I'd totally settle for this provided the romance is well written. but it's persona so... yeah.

unfortunately the only lesbian option in fates was the psycho lesbian trope so... yeah.

>>2409478
Seriously, other than Makoto's Confidant in which you could see it coming from a mile away, every other romance felt sudden and kind of forced

Granted, i couldn't get past rank 1 with Haru because "lol u need max proficiency for rank 2" so i can't talk about hers, but every other one i did had no build up to romance at all, Ann for example had more sexual tension going with Mika than Joker

>>2409491
Haru's clearly into Joker almost from the start and I think Futaba had quite a bit of build-up as well, but you're right about everyone else. I still romanced Tae because she hits all my fetishes.

>>2409491
That's because Makoto is the canon love interest. All the others are options because the dating sim aspect is expected.

>>2409491
Funny how if you "refuse" Makoto she doesn't miss a beat and is business as usual. Ann for example gives a lazy excuse and runs off and has also the lowest stat requirement of all the girls with a whooping 2 in Kindess while all the other girls need to be in the 4 or 5's.
Makoto has about as many hints as all the other girls in regards to Joker. People just seem to confuse plot importance with being 'the main romance'
And Futuba has this very not subtle 'what is this I'm feeling' moment the end of hers.

>>2409508
There is no canon love interest. And if there was it probably goes to the girl that actually has a more than implied kiss scene in her romance. Which is not Makoto. It's Ann, who also has that weird romance anime introduction and gets the most worked up when Joker goes to Juvie. She just skimps out on the plot importance once Makoto comes around, but so does everyone else. If not for Sae Makoto would have lost in relevance too, since her playing second in commanc (and wet blanket) to the group has her stand out but also not exactly be 'important' at the same time because it's still all on Joker in the end.

>>2409508
It's less about Makoto being canon, the story leans either way with Ann also getting her share of hints in the beginning, which then gets traded Joker going out of his way to focus his libido attention on her and her later reactions like making Joker promise not to die in the arena and that random coffee based comment in Mementos and the Jokwe POV thing where he singles her out and the end while Makoto geta the plot focus. No it's rather that Makoto's Confidant setup lends itself more to a romantic confession, which in itself is also the problem because holy shit was her Confidant awful. No strike that the entire party's Confidants were all around shit with Yusuke being arguably the most fun. The meat is definitely in the out of party Confidants this time.

>>2409946
>Jokwe
*Joker
Ugh off to bed.

>>2409495
>>2409929
In regards to Futaba, i only got up to Rank 5 or 6 with her when you were still just helping her with the promise list and i don't remember anything hinting at romance up to that point (and it has also that scene with Futaba going to school with Makoto and Joker acting as parental figures to her)

And don't get me wrong, i'm not one of those obnoxious Makoto fans who act as if the entire plot of the game revolved around her and i'm also not a fan of Joker x Makoto (or any straight pair for that matter), all i'm saying is that the whole "pretend to be my boyfriend" and "i don't understand love?" thing seem more like a romance setup than any other female Confidant

>>2409929
>and gets the most worked up when Joker goes to Juvie
>>2409946
>her later reactions like making Joker promise not to die in the arena


that's what I found most disappointing about the mak links in this game is that everything is so scripted that "special" max ranks are not special at all. OK you've romanced X but when it comes to dialogue there are only rare moments where there is a reference to it. You can be romancing Ann and she'll still call Joker and the guys losers who can't get girls and you'll still get that cringy beach sequence where you try to get girls.

Of course there are what, 3-4 special moments to share ? But that's not much. At least p3 and p4 dit it kind of better with special conversations in Tartarus depending on who you dated and in p4 occasionnal remarks about it.

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Is there a particular reason as to why you're having this discussion about some het romances on /u/?

>>2410193
I forgot there is also her unintentional flirty tone in some of her messages to Joker, but that's minor.
3 and 4 in their vanilla state were actually worse than 5 in that regard. In 3 you could only romance the girls, which made MC a canon cheating whore and it as well as 4 made no mention of it aside from Christmas date.
4 Golden came with all those new events like Valentine's Day that 5 is now using by default. I'm honestly just glad that all those romance scenes are now voice acted, which at least make them feel a little as part of the plot.

As for Ann and the beach comment I never managed to romance either her or Makoto by the time that takes place. It usually happens afterwards shortly before Hawaii, which also happens to be when the first romance scene happens.

Also I'm damn happy the non party Social Links/Confidants have story presence this time.

>>2410060
Just saying there is no true canon love interest since no one in 5 is as pushed as Yukari and Aigis were in 3 or Marie come 4 Golden. All the girls in 5 are getting equal amounts of hints with Joker and even if Makoto's confidant easily sets itself up as romance she isn't flustered like Ann and runs off if nothing happens or is as sad as Haru when you don't get together with her. Ann is also the only girl I know in the game that has an undeniable kiss in it (like Marie in 5 when you romance her).

>>2410204
We're more talking about the canoncity (?) of the romance in general. Imagine we're playing Fem!Joker and someone goes one girl romance us canon over another one.

>>2410060
Futaba more or less realizes she likes Joker romantically at rank 8, but it doesn't feel out of place after she's spent her link, Soujiro's link and much of her screentime outside of those getting close to him and plainly adoring him.

Personally, I just want Futaba to call fem Akira "oneesama".

>>2410204
We just got carried away, sorry, but in my defense i was complaining about how bad the het romances are, which is a common topic of discussion on /u/

>>2351901
None whatsoever.

new thread
>>2413041