FLOWERS - The tale of the girls who grow with a season

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1ST FOR BEST GIRL

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>>2184139
See?

>>2184139
>ノンケのあなたと付き合うことはできないけど友達としてずっと側にいれたらいいな
Nothing is more excruciatingly painful than being friend-zoned.

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>ロストバージンが~~体育館~~図書室の道具部屋

>>2184934
You're a pretty creepy idiot. Do you even understand what you're copy and pasting?

>>2184139
>『女の子同士の三角関係や、惚れた晴れたが存在しました。好きな人が被ってしまって修羅場…とか。 』

>>2184941
>『ビアン/バイ仲間が見つけた。やった。』

>>2184139
>『背が高くない。モデル体型じゃない。』

>>2184941
>ad hominem
>You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

>Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.

>>2184951
You're demonstrating more of your creepy idiocy by copy and pasting something without really understanding it.

>>2184952
>your creepy idiocy
Still ad hominem. You HAVE to show me what's the part that I got wrong or else you get zero respect from me. I'm done with you.
> Again I say, don't get involved in foolish, ignorant arguments that only start fights.

>>2184952
>demonstrating more
Eh? Your English comprehension and critical thinking skill must be disastrous.
> a pretty creepy idiot
Classic ad hominem.
> Do you even understand what you're copy and pasting?
> copy and pasting something without really understanding it.
Straight out vagueness and ambiguity fallacy.

>>2184980
>>2184987
Telling someone they're being a creepy idiot isn't ad hominem when the whole point is it's because one thinks they're being a creepy idiot.

The point is certainly not an attempt to get respect from the creepy idiot.

Dear onee-sans, I know Winter is still far away, but must you argue so? It doesn't even seem to be about Flowers.

On another note, I just started listening to Spring and Summer drama cd, and they are so adorable. Is there just one for each game?

>>2185431
Spring only has one, Summer and Autumn both have two drama CDs.

FLOWERS春篇『乙女たちの休日』『怪談夜話 其の一』
FLOWERS夏篇『紅千鳥のハナコトバ』『怪談夜話 其の二』『chaleur<考崎千鳥バージョン>』
FLOWERS夏篇『夏空の光』『怪談夜話 其の三』
FLOWERS秋篇『二人の時間』『怪談夜話 其の四』
FLOWERS秋編『La chaleur du coeur』『怪談夜話其の五』

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Might actually cave in and learn moon so I don't have to wait ages for dumb translations. I want to play Natsu hen so bad

>>2185667
Unless you devote 4+ hours every day to learning the language, it will almost certainly be faster to just wait for all the translations.

>>2185739

How long does it take to actually learn the language if i devote 4+ hours a day?

>>2185846
6 months in my case.

>>2186795

Its not that long, maybe i'll try to learn the language sometime soon. I'll had to wait like 2 years for the official translations of all the seasons, so it's actually faster to just learn the language.

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Still no news regarding Fuyu-hen yet... This time last year, IG already at the script production stage for Aki-hen.

>>2190105
Even if they make progress for Fuyu-hen, they probably won't say anything at this time. Can't steal the thunder from that Vita release.

With the Vita release of Aki-hen, anyone knows what the new drama CD is about? Perhaps a summary?

>>2197339
> https://twitter.com/simizuhatumi/status/788704990999175168

Not a summary.

How is the english translation? Any good?

I remember the Demo being pretty god awful.

>>2197897
>How is the english translation? Any good?
I'd be interested to hear the answer too. I've never played the demo, so I don't have opinions formed like previous poster.

I see the game is on sale "for black friday weekend". Would /u/ recommend it?
https://www.jastusa.com/flowers-spring.html

>>2197897
>>2197908
I thought it was pretty good, actually. I had no problems reading through it.

>>2197897
I'm no native Japanese speaker but I can't really remember any obvious mistakes in the translation. There are a couple of spelling errors here and there plus jarring choices of expressions, but it's not that terrible.

>>2197908
The first three chapters were great; delightfully gay and enjoyable, but everything takes a turn to CRAWLING IN MY SKIN and Brazilian soap opera tier melodrama that really turned me off. I wouldn't recommend it, but if you are personally into that kind of stuff you should have a blast. The puzzles also had a tendency to be ridiculously hard, good luck without a guide.

>>2197915
That's a big exaggerration. This board has weirdly feeble tolerance for stories that are more than fluff when it comes to character relationships and emotions.

I just started the first game. At the part where Mayuri asked Suoh which character she likes better in "Gone with the wind," why did Mayuri does that lewd gesture? Putting a finger on her own lips and trailing it towards her chest, while being blatant about forcing Suoh to choose between her and Rikka.

I don't understand that gesture besides knowing that it's sexual. Is it something happened in the novel?

>>2199493
She's a slut.

>>2199493
The girl Mayuri liked better, used her sex appeal a lot in Gone with the wind

>>2199501
Ah I see, thank you.

>Suoh had gone to a co-ed school that have a bunch of male assholes
Didn't she say she has no contact with the opposite sex in her life, aside from family members?

>>2199558
She went to a co-ed primary or middle school at first, but at some point decided to not go anymore so she got home-schooled before entering high school.

>>2199568
I know. The contradiction is that when she was pondering about her "lesbian feelings," she wondered if it's due to her not having any contact with the opposite sex before. But she went to a co-ed school once and did meet boys her age.

>>2199571
She didn't mean it literally; like no contact at all. Just that she wasn't "involved" with any males so she has no prior attraction to which she could compare what she experiences in the present time.

>>2199571
>she wondered if it's due to her not having any contact with the opposite sex before.
Maybe the translation is unclear or something, but that wasn't what she thought. She did attend school previously but not properly, and had not had "scope" to consider whether she was attracted to or disliked the boys.

>>2199682
>>2199583
Yeah it properly got lost in translation. I'm too lazy to look up the original line though.

Another one: when Yuzuriha teased Suoh about her maidenly scream ""Kyaa!" and Suoh said of course, since she IS a maiden (otome), I don't understand Yuzuriha's response: "I'll be frank, no one at this school is impressed with the fact that you're a virgin." (shoujo)

Suoh wasn't bragging at all, so it feels weird senpai suddenly made the inusiation??

>>2199694
The Japanese didn't really insinuate bragging. Yuzuriha was just teasing Suoh about her inadvertent double entendre.

>>2199699
Ah, I just realized it be a misunderstanding of 感心しないぞ

Yuzuriha was using it as a manner of admonishment

"I will not be impressed by you declaring yourself to be a virgin in a thoroughfare like this."

>>2199699
>>2199711
I listened to the voice acting and get it now. A mistranslation. English convo:
>Suoh: Eek!
>Yuzuriha: What a girly scream, like a maiden.
>Suoh: Of course, since I'm a maiden.
>Yuzuriha: No one in this school is impressed with the fact that you're a virgin.

The weird flow of the convo (Yuzuriha brought up virginity out of nowhere) is properly because the translator mistook "virginal" with "girly" (both pronounced shoujo in Japanese). So it actually went like this:
>Suoh: Eek!
>Yuzuriha: Wow you're a real maiden. Such a virginal scream.
>Suoh: I am a maiden.
>which prompted Yuzuriha to chide Suoh over the fact that being a virgin has nothing to do with being a maiden.

>>2199717
>>Such a virginal scream.
That was "shoujo" not "shojo"

>>which prompted Yuzuriha to chide Suoh over the fact that being a virgin has nothing to do with being a maiden.
No, she's making a joke because "otome" can be taken to mean virgin (same as "maiden")

>>2199694
Of course, Suoh wasn't bragging; Yuzuriha simply made a joke out of the word 少女.

>>2199717
>>virginal scream
Uh, that'd make even less sense.

>>2199720
This is how I understand that particular convo.

>>2199845
>Yuzuriha simply made a joke out of the word 少女.
It was 乙女 that was the double entendre.

>>2199501
You just made me look up the character Scarlett O'Hara, since I had only the faintest idea of Gone with the Wind.

I thought that was quite unlike Mayuri's usual jokes to be making such gesture. Pretty cool

>>2199852
少女 can be read both shoujo and otome. I didn't know if only written as 乙女 would mean virgin, if that's what you mean.

>>2199861
>少女 can be read both shoujo and otome.
In modern writing it is pretty consistently しょうじょ

If someone means おとめ but wants to write it as 少女 for some reason, they basically have to specify the reading.

>>2199720
Hmm okay. I did initially think virgin was a joke stemming from otome's implication, but the conversation then still doesn't feel totally added up. If it wasn't mistranslation of shoujo, then there must be inadequate translation of Suoh's second line. Too bad my ears are yet adequate to hear the original line.

>>2199856
>quite unlike Mayuri's usual jokes
Ikr. It fascinates me that she's capable of such a joke if she wants to, and pull it off so well. That was sexy.

But it was also misleading. That joke and the joke about wanting to see Suoh modeling in the nude convinced me that she likes Suoh, then she became all over Rikka like usual and revealed she likes Rikka. I don't get why anyone would flirt like that with their love rival. .

>>2199869

I think Mayuri was just teasing the always serious Suoh by "flirting" with her or was her attempt to cause a jealous reaction in Rikka.

>>2199863
勉強になった

>>2199869
Her little flirting with Suoh can also be interpreted the other way that it was because she didn't like Suoh in sexual way, that she dared to joke about it. I think.

>>2199911
I guess.

I remember something about how there are 5 classes in the freshman year right? And Rikka is not only our class president, but the president of the entire freshmen too? Otherwise I don't know how everyone immediately thought she would be picked to play Virgin Mary.

>>2199923
There's just one class

>>2199937
>~24 students
>5-7 drop out every year
>3 years
There are less than 60 students in total in that school? No way.

>>2199969
Some students join, so there might be more than 60. Anyway, it is a small school, but there are some schools that small in reality. And some even smaller ones in rural areas due to their demographics.

>>2199991
300 students would still be a tiny school. It makes more sense to have at least that much, considering the amount of seats we see in the cathedral background CG, and all these preparation for the feast of assumption.

I vaguely remember it was mentioned there are 5 classes of the first-year, will try to look for it again in my next playthrough.

>>2200290
You're probably thinking of this line:
>First, an explanation of the five classes.
In Japanese that was:
>――まずは五教科の説明。
So it's "classes" in the sense of "subjects".

>>2200372
Ah ok, thank you.

Did Suoh bang Mayuri? All this talk about "I can sense her wanting me to take her" and "I want all of you" and the CG of Suoh's hand pinning Mayuri's down horizontally made me think so. If yes, aren't these horny teenagers move freakingly fast? They just had their first kiss.

Also, I love how Suoh is surprisingly bold after getting a real girlfriend. Initiating kiss and intimately eating the cream wiped from Mayuri's cheek.

>>2200384
Where is that CG?

>>2200384
Suoh released all of her pent-up sexual frustration as soon as she got the chance.

>>2200384
It seems that Mayuri is pinned against a window in that CG, though. But I think it was implied in one of the drama CDs that they went beyond kissing.

>>2200917
If they went beyond kissing, that would explain why Suoh was pleasuring herself to Mayuri on that extra....

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>>2200384
They definitely went all the way. Suou masturbated to the thought of Mayuri in the sequel too.

>>2200384
I really don't see any other reasonable alternatives as to how to interpret that scene. And I'm not all that surprised, Mayuri is both cute and hot as a dazzling summer day plus the amount of gay trying to break out from Suoh could be hardly contained any longer, she almost jumped her earlier in the bathing scene after all. All those weeks locked together with so many girls would make anyone unable to resist the thirst.

>>2201127
>Mayuri is both cute and hot as a dazzling summer day
I for one don't even know how Suoh managed to last as long as she did tbqh I would have jumped Mayuri the first chance I got and beg her to "take me" right then and there

>>2201090
>Suou masturbated to the thought of Mayuri in the sequel too.

elaborate

>>2201127
I'm not surprised that they dare having sex, but the fact that it's so fast. I don't know many teenagers who kiss for the first time and fuck right away.

Rikka, who lust after Suoh pretty hardcore (heavy breathing at the thought of little Suoh in a swimming suit), still wanted to take small step first instead of jumping into first kiss. Yet here we have Suoh, who declared she has no intention of dating anyone, not even Mayuri, sticked her fingers in a pussy just a couple weeks after that declaration. I'm not complaininging, just found it hilarious.

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>>2201130
Well, to be completely fair to Suoh, she did trip 'accidentally' and landed in Mayuri's embrace. I can totally see it being some kind of subconscious action than a coincidence.

>Suoh so gay she can't walk straight
Now that I think about, has there ever been such a gay ass protag in the yuri genre? Every single time she makes a comment about a girl that's not her stepbitch the gay just radiates from her.

>>2201157
You weren't the only one that found it extremely out of character, especially for a girl that was so shy a few days prior.

>>2201163
>especially for a girl that was so shy a few days prior
Well she was trying hard to get that part of her sorted out and Mayuri's route encourages Suoh to be braver and dare to do the things she wants to do even if her anxiety gets in the way so it's not exactly 100% out of character for her to get bolder the more you advance in Mayuri's route and all the way into under her panties

>>2201163
Ah, I didn't find it out-of-character per se. More like finding out a new side of her. Despite her social anxiety disorder, we found out that she has no problem when it comes to showing off detective skills in front of a crowd, right? It's like that for me. Suoh has many contradicting qualities, and that is wonderful.

For example, we follow Suoh's perspective so we knew she's very shy, and she thought that's why nobody wants to be her friend. It's only late in the game that she finally noticed that most people don't perceive her as shy. They didn't dare to approach her simply because she looks like a detached beauty, too cool and too out of their league.

Suoh is the more ladylike and a pushover out of the bunch, yet Erika correctly assessed that she's the masculine one in a relationship (that was about Rikka, but applied to Mayuri too since Mayuri wants Suoh to take her instead of the other way around). I was very amused by this, because it was my impression too since the beginning. So her being "surprisingly" proactive about sex didn't weird me out.

>>2201176
I also get the top vibe from Suoh but can't put my finger on why. She's so soft-spoken and pretty much a doormat, whereas Mayuri is headstrong and can be tomboyish at times,

>>2201193
I think there's something very appealing about Suoh topping Mayuri exactly because you wouldn't expect it. But Suoh is definitely the "prince charming" always coming to Mayuri's rescue so maybe that's why.

>>2201200
>because you wouldn't expect it
I did expect it though. I got the top vibe from her way very early in the game, so when she actually does I made a fist bump.

I must say, the replayability of this game is remarkable. I can read it over and over again without getting bored, picking up details that I forgot.

So in the beginning, does the Amitié test mean anything? Do they just serve as extra green/yellow points for the lily and you can skip them entirely with the "neither" answer? The crossdressing question is too amusing to not serve any purpose.

And why did Mayuri suddenly sit next to Suoh? Did she change seat with Ichigo or did Suoh really sit at the wrong place after going to the toilet?

>>2201328
People had moved around during the break while Suoh went to the toilets. Ichigo had been sitting in front of Suoh, now someone else was there, and Mayuri had taken the seat next to the one Suoh had been sitting at. So Suoh ended up sitting next to Mayuri without realizing it. She might have been too shy to sit back down there if she had realized.

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I feel sick. Please tell me I accidentally got a bad end.

I'm going to puke.

>>2201342
No, keep playing, neesan. You didn't get a bad end yet.
That's just Rikka being her true self: a massive blackmailing selfish cunt

>>2201342
Don't worry, it's going to get even worse.

>>2201342
Rikkafags will defend this.

>>2201354
I think the worst part of this is that I didn't know you had to do Mayuri's route first to unlock Rikka's route.

I always had a bad feeling and just wanted to get her route over with first. It feels a little pathetic getting a bad end on my first try.

Just finished Spring. Not getting all the bad ends yet though.

This game is such a pleasant surprise. I came into this fully expecting to hate Rikka and the twins, but it turned out I don't dislike anyone.

Rikka: prideful rule-sticklers are boring to me so I'd been apathetic to her since the beginning. Luckily, she's more interesting than that. She has fangs. I could never support Suoh to be with her, but I can't find it in myself to dislike her like some people here. Most importantly is because her request had been very tame. She didn't force Suoh into sex, but was asking for a teenage romance. Considering the scope of her maliciousness and that she's 14, I sympathize with her actions, and am willing to forgive it. Plus I have to give credits to Rikka's devotion to Suoh. She's actually helpful most of the time, instead of a nag who always forcing her values onto other people. I feel bad for many of her unluckiness, and that allowed me to overlook many of her undesirable actions (such as being overly defensive during the book incidence). She might be involved with Mayuri incidence though, so my opinion might change in Winter.

The twins: annoying childish twin jesters is a trope I hate, so I'm again surprised at how well they're handled. The Sasakis are entertaining and cute most of the time, so I'm willing to forgive their insensitiveness in the early chapters. I still wonder why they pranked Suoh with that letter though. Considering the timing (they just had a fallout with Mayuri), it can't be explained with immature ignorance.

Daliah: my least favourite character in Spring. Even if she's genuinely nice, I still find her untrustworthy and annoying.

Suoh is a great MC. Her crippling shyness is perfectly balanced by mindblowing intelligence and badassery, so I found her neither frustrating nor a Mary Sue. She earned the affection of everyone around her fair and square, not through plot armour. Best girl is Erika, top notch personality and voice acting.

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>>2201574
>Best girl is Erika

Good taste Nee-san, here's an icon for you

I don't understand why Rikka can't "accept" Suoh simply because she was abused by her step-mother. What is there not to accept? It's like "you used to got bitten by a dog?? sorry I need time to accept you."

That led me to believe Suoh implied she had been sexually abused by the step-mom. That would explain so many things: the nausea and Rikka's reaction. While verbal abuse can bring people to suicide, it won't trigger stuff like nausea, an indication of repulsion. Since Suoh had made it clear there's no beating involved, that leaves sexual abuse as the most logical conclusion. Incest and pedophilia would make most people throw up.

Some people indeed won't be able to accept right away that their love interest was tainted, so Rikka's inability to accept Suoh's past is understandable too.

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>>2203479

While that would make more sense, Suoh made clear in that very same scene there wasn't anything physical, only emotional. Mayuri even said something cheesy like "her scars are on her heart" or something along those lines.

Also,
>While verbal abuse can bring people to suicide, it won't trigger stuff like nausea
That's wrong. Shitton of stress and anxiety can do that to you. If it was physical repulsion I don't think she and Mayuri could've did each other so soon without any trouble.

>>2203479
I interpreted that scene differently. To me the inability to accept Suoh came from the fact that she "betrayed" her expectations in a way. She built up this immaculate picture of her without giving any thought to the person behind her (remember, she blackmailed her into the relationship completely ignoring Suoh's feelings and desires, treating her as an object that served her happiness), so when it turned out that her "toy" was a living human being with insecurities and troubles, her image shattered, leaving her unable to deal with the situation.

Even if I'm on the wrong track here, I'm pretty sure there was no physical contact/abuse based on Suoh's internal monologue. And yes, even verbal abuse can lead to severe medical symptoms, especially when someone is as delicate as Suoh.

>>2203498
Suoh made it clear it wasn't physical beating, in other to clarify Rikka's confusion as to why there's no scar on Suoh's body. If the step-mother only touched her inappropriately, there would only be mental scar.

At any rate, aside from sexual abuse, it makes no sense for Rikka's difficulty of acceptance. If it's truly just verbal torment, Rikka would have rushed to embrace her poor friend and get mad at the step-mom, instead of rejecting the victim as if she's used goods.

>Suoh doing Mayuri
The majority of sexual abused victims have no difficulty with sexual activity, you know that right? In fact, many of them go on and become rapists themselves.

>>2203508
I think you are simpky wrong to assume that only sexual abuse could make another person feel uncomfortable, like the abuse survivor is tainted by the damage to them.

>>2203555
There was more things that didn't make sense than just the nausea. Read again. You cannot explain Rikka's reaction toward a kid who was beaten like that. THAT combined with the naisea was what made the obvious implication.

>>2203505
I think you guys just love to stereotype sexual abused victims = sexphobia bullshit. That isn't the majority of the cases, IRL and fiction. Children who had been sexually abused most commonly end up to be sluts, rapists, and serial killers. Don't forget the personality test at the beginning of the game. The correct answer to whether Suoh has had mental/psychotic treatment was "Yes."

It's not like Suoh is unaffected. She is terribly traumatized, don't want to get close to her step-mom, and is repulsed to the point of throwing up just by remembering it. The chances there had been sexual abuse from this detail alone is equal or greater than verbal abuse, not less. The reason the scale tips towards sexual abuse was because the tale-tell abnormality of Rikka's reaction. Suoh's nausea can only be realistically reasoned by beating or molestation. Name me one single book or movie where a character feel nausea due to childhood verbal abuse, I dare you.

It's understandable why child molestation wasn't stated straight up. It's just like Suoh/Mayuri sex scene, which we have to understand through the insinuation "she wants me to take her."

And don't fucking underestimate Suoh. We saw how much of an insecure human she is, and yet she's also the bravest person in the school. She's not afraid of ghosts, can speak calmly to a crowd about her deductions, dare to tell the truth that even Mayuri couldn't, the one who confessed, the one who went to answer the love letter even though she had been traumatized by the same prank in the past. Do you know what all of this means? Suoh is a person who can overcome trauma, and not overblow it with "I had been hurt! No way I can face this now!"

>>2203555
The immediate reaction most people have for a person who had been hit and had been raped are different, no matter whether they can accept it afterwards. You must be autistic to not understand this nuance.

>>2203579
>You cannot explain Rikka's reaction toward a kid who was beaten like that.
I've re-read the Japanese script for the relevant parts and I am certain that the creators do intend it to be that the step-mother had been jealous of Suoh being better at learning the piano than her son, so tormented her under the guise of disciplining her. You might assume that Rikka would not react like that to the abuse unless it were sexual, but I can tell you I would not make that assumption, and don't believe the creators share the assumption either. The inference of sexual abuse is based on a false premise.

>>2203586
Provide substance. Repeating conclusion without any reasoning won't make your opinion right, especially since the burden of proof is on the side of disproving the possibility of sexual abuse, not proving its existence.

The step-mom started abusing Suoh because she's pissed that Suoh is more talented than her son, that's never a mystery. So what? Sexual abuse doesn't always stem from sexual attraction. Straight men do rape little boys out of sadism.

Here is the flow of logic:
- Suoh was abused.
- It's not physical beating, but something that left deep mental scar.
>So it's either verbal or sexual abuse.
- It's something that induces disgust reflex (nausea).
- It's something that invoked intuitive unacceptance instead of pity from an unprepared person.
>The likelihood tips towards sexual abuse, but simple verbal abuse is still plausible.
- When Rikka first heard Mayuri's past in the library, her initial reflex was the urge to comfort.
- Rikka knew that Suoh's home situation is unhappy, but she didn't react badly to that info. This means that Rikka have a reasonable vision of Suoh, and her unacceptance has nothing to do with her expecting Suoh to have a perfect family.
>Rikka's reaction towards Suoh's past thus strongly implied Suoh was not a simple pitiable child who suffered verbal abuse. She didn't feel the immediate urge to embrace Suoh like she did Mayuri. Logically speaking, people only show this reaction towards victims who: 1) commited a crime in revenge, 2) is suicidal, or 3) had been sexually abused. We know Rikka knew 1 and 2 are not true, thus she must have understood Suoh's implication to be 3.

I'm open to the possibility of simple verbal abuse, as long as you can give reasonable explanation. Rikka's reaction compound with the nausea had been too abnormal to interpret Suoh's past as simple verbal abuse. Had the step-mom been a step-dad, I'm sure you'd know what the writer hinted at. Thanks god it's a yuri VN made by people who respect yuri.

>>2205864
>the burden of proof is on the side of disproving the possibility of sexual abuse, not proving its existence.
Not the person you are arguing with, but that's completely backwards.

The work never states that Suoh's abuse was physical, you are the one asserting the existence of something that has no basis in the text. You also claim that nothing sort of sexual abuse could lead to symptoms like nausea and the like. Stating that verbal abuse is not enough to trigger PTSD and similar medical symptoms can be disproved with a quick google search. Just look up "psychological effect of verbal abusement" and you'll get a plethora of studies that will tell you how severe the repercussions of even verbal abuse are.

My vita Aki Hen finally arrived

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I'm computer retarded, sorry if it's not good enough.

>>2206461
Thank you, onee-sama.

>>2206461
Thanks a lot, Onee-sama. MP3 320kbps is acceptable.

If you want to have a better, lossess copy, you should rip it to FLAC, using software like Exact
Audio Copy.

Aki-hen: Ichigo is in love with Yuzuriha, Ringo is in love with Ichigo. How did Ringo fall for Yururiha at the end though? It's like the Suoh/Rikka/Mayuri triangle again.

>>2206836
It doesn't sound like you know what happened in it. Ringo loving Ichigo was only really relevant for an alternate end. For the main plot Ringo's love interest was Yuzuriha. There are scenes on a second play through that show how her feelings for Yuzuriha developed.

>>2206836
>spoiler
Really?? Welp, that explains Ichigo's fascination for Yuzuriha throughout the spring volume. Do the twins each have a route in autumn?

Anyone has Tota Pulchra Es sung by Mayuri?

>>2206859
Rough Aki-hen main route (as far as love interests go): Yuzuriha has been in love with Nerine for years (but angsts about it and her homosexuality). Ichigo has a crush on Yuzuriha and Ringo knows. Ringo slowly develops feelings for Yuzuriha too. Yuzuriha confesses to Nerine but gets rejected. Ringo comforts Yuzuriha and they start a relationship. Drama ensues, involving a twist I won't go into. Yuzuriha eventually breaks up with Ringo to try again to become lovers with Nerine. At the very end Nerine accepts Yuzuriha's feelings.
Alternate coupling ends:
Ringo end: Yuzuriha chooses to stay in the relationship with Ringo.
Twins end: After Yuzuriha breaks up with Ringo, Ringo starts a relationship with Ichigo.

Is twincest still possible in Fuyu-hen?

>>2206869
Thank you. So Ichigo doesn't do anything about her crush for Yuzuriha? How did she react when she found out Ringo's thing with Yuzuriha? I remember the twins to be pretty homophobic.

>>2206898
She was very jealous, but what exactly happens is very spoilerish.

Some of the teasing from the twins was casually a bit homophobic, but they don't really have a problem with homosexuality and Ringo ended up dating Yuzuriha primarily because she comforted Yuzuriha and gave her the acceptance she needed after Nerine's horrified reaction to Yuzuriha's homosexuality.

>>2206925
Yeah I know the twins aren't homophobic for real. I'm just interested in the process of them learning.

I wish somebody would post their playthrough of Natsu-hen and Aki-hen Jap ver. I won't be able to play them myself for a long while due to technical difficulties.

I don't understand the timing of the love letter prank. I mean, I can totally see the twins randomly do it during peace time. But it wasn't peace time. There's a shitstorm going on after the body measurement incident, so homosexuality is an incredibly touchy subject and the twins knew it. They're having a fallout with Mayuri after all. Yet they decided to make that specific prank, as if to tell Suoh "be careful not to become Mayuri."

I know the twins aren't bad people. But this incidence felt much more intentional than typical Sasaki's ignorance.

>>2207762
The timing of the love letter being close is just because they're linked by what the narrative is trying to do with development for Suoh and Mayuri.

Likewise, their role in teasing Mayuri about how she was looking at Rikka is because the writing style essentially doesn't give lines to more minor characters. The incident wasn't about them, they were just tools needed to produce it.

>so homosexuality is an incredibly touchy subject and the twins knew it.
They probably didn't see what was happening that way.

>Yet they decided to make that specific prank, as if to tell Suoh "be careful not to become Mayuri."
That definitely wasn't what they were doing.

>>2207944
Essentially you're just saying it was cramped there in order to utilize Daliah's advice "look from other people's perspective" for not just Mayuri, but for the twins too. Which is only a meta explanation and not the meaning within the story itself.

I'm sure I'm not the only one being puzzled by this particular action from the twins, because I just watched 2 different people's playthrough out of boredom and they both expressed the same opinion.

Let's take the following bath scene for example. Suoh just finished solving the fallout between Mayuri and the twins, and Ichigo decided to bring up Mayuri's sexuality again. Her bad taste joke then felt in-character. It's insensitive, but not malicious. She was able to crack that joke because she already made up with Mayuri.

But the love letter was different. The twins were in a bad mood because they're the central figure of the current drama. It made no sense for them to prank Suoh on that very subject. That's why it's hard to buy Suoh's mental gymnastic spin "you're different from those boys" to defend their action.

Like I said, I know the writer meant the twins to not be malicious at all. The plot point was just incredibly clumsy.

>>2207995
>Essentially you're just saying it was cramped there in order to utilize Daliah's advice "look from other people's perspective" for not just Mayuri, but for the twins too.
No, I'm not. There's much more importance in how story structure is used than just for the sake of something like that.

>The twins were in a bad mood because they're the central figure of the current drama.
I'm pretty sure the twins did not perceive what happened that way.

>It made no sense for them to prank Suoh on that very subject.
For them it was just a playful way of asking to be friends, not about homosexuality.

>>2208008
The twins aren't that airheaded. They do have common senses, such as panicking when Nerine innocently asked Rikka if Suoh and Mayuri are dating. They did know they're in the mid of a shotstorm, because they sulked and Mayuri had been hiding herself in the library.

>>2208025
It isn't a matter of being airheaded. The incident just didn't have much significance to them, whereas it did to Mayuri. Suoh even realizes that to them it's over and not weighting on them (in contrast to how Mayuri still felt) when they bring it up jokingly in the scene in the chapel.

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Winter uniform?

>>2208029
>the incidence didn't have much significance to them
Wrong. Right before Suoh found the letter in her bag, she noted how divisive the class now is. Rikka commented Ichigo in particular wouldn't even meet her eyes.

Don't say whatever come to mind to bend the truth. It doesn't hurt to admit weak plot point as weak plot point.

>>2209014
Rikka was talking about Mayuri not making eye contact with the twins, particularly Ichigo. Mayuri had less people around her than normal, but that problem is with Mayuri becoming more withdrawn. The twins were simply talking to people in a different group, but there wouldn't particularly be anything strange about that. They were probably carrying on like normal, while Mayuri avoided them.

>>2209038
That's not what Rikka said. She said Ichigo avoided eye contact with her while the two converse. Mayuri is talking to a different group.

>>2209898
Did JAST's translator fuck up who was the subject there or something?

>#立花
>「わたしの時とは違うけれど、沙沙貴さん」
>ちらりと別のグループの中で話を弾ませている彼女たちを見遣る。
>#立花
>「特に苺さんとは目も合わしていないわ。さすがにこんなに続くようだと話をしなくちゃだわねぇ」

Ichigo is marked with と so she isn't the subject.

>Rikka: "It's different to my time, but she hasn't even met eyes with the Sasakis..."
>She glances over at them, chatting in the middle of a different group.
>Rikka: "Especially Ichigo. If it's carrying on like this I'll have to have a word."

Can a kind oneesama please help this poor imouto upload the drama CDs to mega?

>>2212498
Why not just view them on bilibili?

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3181615/
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av2335709/
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av4785893/

They even have subtitle in jp and cn.

>>2213081
>Chidori sneaks into Erika's bed every night
>Chidori asks Suoh whether she or Matsuri initiate kisses, and Suoh answers "me..."
>Chidori asks whether they had done the deed, Suoh refuses to answer
>Chidori said she likes being done than doing
Omfg, Chidori.

>>2213101
Is that addressed on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd link?

>>2213241
First. I'm not sure why the second has visuals and dialogue box as if it's part of the game. Both first and second are Natsu-hen drama CD. The third is just the teaser for Aki-hen and not actual drama CD.

>>2213287
Thank you!

The piano version of 夏空の光 with Chidori and Erika singing is not included in the Natsu hen OSt, is it?

I really liked it.

>>2213287
>Both first and second are Natsu-hen drama CD
is it pc version or psvita version

>>2213287
>The third is just the teaser
No, it is the actual drama CD; there are 12 tracks in that link. They are only voice tracks without subtitle, however.

Haru-hen drama CD/video was also on bilibili last I checked. I'm sure you guys can figure it out.

I do not speak a lick of Chinese, so I can't give credits to the right people, but mad props to the Chinese onee-samas who made the visual drama videos for Haru-hen and Natsu-hen.

>>2213552
Ah, I only noticed the Aki-hen track list now. Thank you.

So the fake in-game video was fanmade? Wow it's really well done. Yes, massive props to the Chinese oneesamas.

Does Jast have any plan to translate the drama CDs?

>>2213101
Wow the drama cds do not keep it pg. Do the aki-hen drama cds also refer to Nerine and Yuzuriha going all the way?

>>2213918
The games themselves do not keep it to PG. Haru-hen made it clear Suoh and Mayuri fucked, Aki-hen has Suoh masturbated to the thought of Mayuri.

And yes, Aki-hen drama CD has Yuzuriha coaxing Nerine back to bed to resume last night's activities.

I can't wait for localization any longer and decide to play Natsu-hen now. My moon is only enough to understand spoken lines though. Still enough to like Chidori a lot.

I have some questions: At the end of chapter 1 when Chidori said Suoh is gorgeous, did Erika suspect Chidori has a crush on Suoh? Does she? She seems strangely fixated on Suoh and mentioned her name in chapter 2 out of nowhere.

>>2214152
>did Erika suspect Chidori has a crush on Suoh?
No, the subtext is the other way round. Chidori was jealous.

>>2214159
Really? Chidori and Erika are both afraid Suoh is taking the other away from them in the drama CD, so I'm not that surprised, but still... It's strange that Chidori already likes Erika so soon in the game.

>Don't worry, Yaegaki. I already forgot Mayuri.
How dare you, Suoh!

What if the mysterious hooded "man" is Mayuri? I never believed her to have left the campus. She's only pretending so in order to investigate something.

>>2215657
Keep reading, it's Suoh.

>>2216382
The one Dalia covered for wasn't

>ダリア・バスキアを愛しているのです。
That was beautiful. I'm not even into Dalia but Erika makes me like her a lot more, even if it went nowhere.

I love the differences between Spring and Summer in regards of routes. Suoh always falls for Mayuri no matter what, and only settle to be with Rikka because it's an easier life for a coward. Erika on the other hand properly falls in love with either option, although she does have a thing for Dalia no matter what.

>>2216431
>and only settle to be with Rikka because it's an easier life for a coward.
Rikka hater headcanon.

>>2216443
Rikka fag confirmed

>>2216443
I don't hate Rikka though? You on the other hand must be delusional if you conveniently forgot Suoh still fell for Mayuri during Rikka's route, and only ended up wanting Rikka's tea everyday because she's to timid to actually do what she wants. The entire last scene is said in resignation tone "this is fine, this is for the best."

>>2216456
>and only ended up wanting Rikka's tea everyday because she's to timid to actually do what she wants. The entire last scene is said in resignation tone "this is fine, this is for the best."
Except not. And if you're interpreting it in that distorted way, it's pretty obvious you don't like Rikka.

>>2216459
Different anon here, but dude, you are the delusional one. It's obvious you payed zero attention when you were playing.

>>2216460
I'm actually pretty confident I've paid better attention than most. I've frequently been posting corrections to people's misunderstandings.

>>2216459
Third anon here, but are you sure your love for Rikka isn't clouding your judgement? Literally the entire narrative focus of the Rikka route is Souh belittling herself, thinking how useless she is, how she is misinterpreting when people are nice to her since obviously nobody could love her and then she resigns to her fate and settles for Rikka. From character growth perspective it's pretty much as much of a bad ending as you can get.

>>2216466
Rikka doesn't really have a route. You don't need to pick yellow many times to get the option of selecting Rikka and those choices don't in and of themselves make much difference.

A less confident Suoh is more likely to see herself in Rikka. That is important. However, it does not amount to resignation or deciding to give up on what she wanted. It just meant that she actually gave consideration to Rikka and through paying attention to her became attracted.

>>2216469
>It just meant that she actually gave consideration to Rikka and through paying attention to her became attracted.
That's not true. Suoh stops being genuinely attracted to Rikka after she does you know what. And the way to end up with Rikka is literally giving up to move forward and just settle for what Rikka forces onto you. Rikka doesn't like Suoh for who she is, what she likes is her own preconceived idea of what Suoh must be like.

>>2216472
>Suoh stops being genuinely attracted to Rikka after she does you know what.
No, that's completely pulled out of your ass. After you choose to accept Rikka, Suoh tells her she is attracted to her (私も立花のことが好きよ) but needs time to think about whether that's as a friend (and she goes on to decide it's more than that).

> And the way to end up with Rikka is literally giving up to move forward and just settle for what Rikka forces onto you
No. In fact Suoh tells Rikka in the ending that it's what she decided for herself without being forced.

>>2216480
Man, we are getting nowhere trying to get you to see things as they are. Maybe just stick to your delusions and stop trying to push them onto other people.

>>2216497
I am the one who is actually referring to what was written instead of just claiming things that were not there.

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New haircut. She looks even more beautiful.

>>2223360
I'm gonna fucking die!

>>2223363
You mean Suoh.

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Can an onee-sama who've played natsu hen help me? Why was Erika crying after the theater performance?

Also what is wrong with her? Why is she so great?

>>2213101
>Chidori said she likes being done than doing
Does this mean Erika tops her? Or is that just what she prefers?

>>2223974
The exact wording is that she likes being led than leading when going further than kissing. Which is interesting because Erika clearly has the role of a princess while Chidori (and Dalia) is the prince in the relationship.

>>2213101
>Chidori asks whether they had done the deed, Suoh refuses to answer

I didn't hear her ask if they had done it, exactly when did she ask? I'm not trying to correct this (I suck at moon), I just really want to know.
All I heard was, "やっぱリードされたいじゃない。ねえ、白羽さん?" to which Suoh answers, "し、しりません!"

>>2224039
>exactly when did she ask
Right after she made Suoh admit to have kissed Mayuri and to be the one who initiated it.
>もしかして、その先もしているの?
>そ、その先って…?!
>えへへ、言わなくもわかるでしょう?
>そ、そんな事言えません!

>>2224048
I listened to that part again, and finally heard it. Thanks.

>>2201574
>I still wonder why they pranked Suoh with that letter though.

A bit late but, I don't think it was totally a prank, At that time, i think they actually wanted ask her to be her friend.

>>2224701
I don't doubt that. Still the mystery is that they decided to bring up the homosexuality subject at a really strange time.

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Would someone mind uploading the instrumental version of Tota Pulchra Es?

>>2225717
Different anon, but I'd love Mayuri's version of it too.

So when do /u/ reckon we'll get a release date for Hiver?

>>2225717
>>2225737
Just ogg ripped from the game.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dz1rk1ej9j5wdll/bgm10.ogg?dl=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2myh9pg28vjkslb/bgm10p.ogg?dl=1

>>2223360
So she can ballet now?

>I'll keep the secret for you
or something?

>>2225979
For some reason I always expect this song to stop after the first 30 seconds.

>>2225966
Didn't OP say April/May 20017? I don't really care for the exact date,

What I want to know the most is will there be new characters. Yuzurika and Nerine left the school so I'm hoping we'll get some new girls.

>>2226159
It's just an estimate based on past releases.

>>2226159
>I'm hoping we'll get some new girls
What for? There's plenty of things left unresolved. I don't see the point of throwing in new characters to hog the screentime when there's already enough things and characters left to focus on.

>>2226166
For enriched interactions. It's not like the new characters have to be for romantic purpose to be entertaining. Just see how precious Yuzuriha and Erika were in Printemps.

Suoh is gonna spend the entire Hiver trying to find Mayuri anyway, so it's not like the available screentime can be dedicated to their fluffy romance. Suoh needs to interact with people will definitely give her the lead to the mystery.

>>2226231
>Just see how precious Yuzuriha and Erika were in Printemps
Yes, but they were later on developed and served a purpose. Introducing new characters now just for the sake of having more characters or some fluffy side-romance doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Because it's the last chapter of the story so they'll be little room to develop those characters/relationships. Instead, we could have an actual Twincest route or more Erika/Chidori cute moments, etc. The focus will be Suoh/Mayuri but there's still plenty to fill the empty in-between spaces with so that each character and established relationship gets a satisfying resolution/closure.

>>2226235
Why do you assume they can't serve a purpose? I just specifically mentioned "lead to the mystery" too. Suoh had been spending half the year with the existing cast and had already learned everything she could from them, so it'd make sense to get new information from new people. Imagine how startled Suoh would be to have a stranger blaming her for corrupting Mayuri or some shit.

>>2226246
I'm not against new people giving new clues but I personally don't see the point of giving new characters a storyline of their own that could take away time from the main narrative.
But well, this is a matter of preference. You stick to yours, I stick to mine.

>>2226259
Had Haru-hen been a standalone story, the time spent with any character aside from the main trio Suoh/Rikka/Mayuri was still time well spent. They didn't become precious just because we see more of them in later volumes. So your argument of new characters being pointless is proven bullshit.

>>2226269
>They didn't become precious just because we see more of them in later volumes.
This is not true. We see more layers to the characters' personalities as the story goes one and with each new season. That can't be done with one volume only.
For example I really didn't care about the twins' that much until they got a little bit more time to shine in a story that didn't revolve mainly around Suoh.

https://twitter.com/merumeruchann/status/813893524584353792
>Announcement: Innocent Grey's Flowers (Summer) is coming in English in 2017 and I will be translating it!!!
http://flowersgame.com/flowers---le-volume-sur-ete--.html

>>2226269
If FLOWERS had a pattern of introducing new characters then it would be perfectly reasonable to do so in the final game, but that is not the case. The main issue with the idea is that Hiver is the final game, meant to be the apotheosis of the series. If more characters were to be introduced, there would be no opportunity for them to develop and worse still, the main plot line would be significantly weaken if a substantial amount of the narrative was dedicated to them. Basically introducing new characters would be both inconsistent and detrimental to the series composition. There are however three possible solutions.
1. (Worst remedy) A new character is introduced to be paired with the non-canonical route.
Problems: Doing this would diminish the magnitude of the alternative routes and fans of said routes may feel cucked. Also it's too late to started a new pairing.
2. The new characters are throw-away background characters, but given a name and image. These new characters can then be properly developed in a possible sequel, spin-off, extra, etc..
Problems: This is awfully inconsistent as FLOWERS have never used throw-away characters except in reference and doing so in the final game would feel out of place.
3. (most rational remedy) The new character(s) have been referenced before in earlier volumes and will play an important role in the main conflict. There is a huge possibility that the main antagonist (if there is one) is a character that have not yet been revealed in detail.
Problem: It's the last game and having an important character revealed so late in the narrative may not work out.

>>2226579
Finally some Flowers news. Now I have this and fuyu-hen to look forward to.

Seems translation will be in good hands.

>>2226672
Your narrowminded insistence on what the new character(s)'s role can be in the overarching plot is blinding you. Can't stop for a second to think of anything that has nothing to do with romance, and that non-romantic characters are worthless?

You have absolutely no idea about the reason behind Mayuri's disappearance, therefore you're missing crucial information on how the new character can play into all of this. For example, a cousin. What if Mayuri's nanny slipped her sexuality to the dad, thus him taking Mayuri's relationship with Suoh more seriously than "just a phrase," eventually sequestering his daughter? The cousin heard of this and decided to enroll and confront Suoh out of anger, but gradually warmed up to her and the two cooperate to find Mayuri.

You exaggerater how much screentime the new character would need is laughable too. As I've pointed out time and time again, Yuzuriha, Nerine, Erika, whatever, didn't need to hog screentime in Printemps to make people appreciate them right away. That's called being well-written. If your idea of a worth-while character being that they need to have romance and showing their face in every other scene, then you're a loser of a writer.

And that's not accounting for your religious view of a "developed romance." Sometimes, teases and hints toward a possibility of a side couple can be a great companion for the main couple's romance. What if after everything is said and done, in the epilogue we see how everyone is faring, and the new character has a bonding moment with Rikka, that we're free to interpret? Shit like that is fun, and signifies that there're more lesbians out there with varying degrees of development, not confined to just those who are showed dating.

>>2226733
First of all, I could care less about the romance aspects. What I'm trying to say is that the story would desist of all continuity and lose on a lot of dramatic buildup if a mundane character was introduced at the climax and not fully developed. I'll respond to your rebuttals in reverse.
1. Look if you think that's a good idea then alright, but I would like to see the response of others because crediting this.
2. Ok. I see you specifically ignored the fact that all of the three characters that you mentioned play a significant role in the 2nd and 3rd game meaning their introduction in the first game was a necessity to develop their characters beforehand. That's what you call successful foreshadowing or build up whatever. Also you seem to ignore the twins and Dahlia when making this argument so are they not appreciated?
3. I'm not saying that introducing an (important) character is a bad idea, it just needs quite a lot of finesse to pull it off, but that crack idea is hilarious. Suddenly Mayuri cousin because why not.
Honestly if you feel that introducing a new character in the final game is a good idea, then that's your opinion and you're entitled to that. In that case please give an example because I think this is a concept that needs substance to fully ascertain its value. I mean the Mayuri cousin thing is pretty funny, but juxtaposes with the overall tone of the narrative.

>>2226579
Hurrah

>>2226757
>obtusely refuse to understand how the side characters of Printemps didn't need sequels to shine
I give up. Have a field day since it's impossible to discuss anything with someone who can't read.

>>2227365
Different anon, but you're wrong about that. They wouldn't have been nearly as interesting if it wren't for the sequels.

>>2226579
>Summer characters
>Suoh Shirahane
>A quiet, anxious, and timid girl
Hmm

>Rikka Hanabishi
>A gentle, thoughtful, and serious girl
Ok... hard to think of her as gentle after Spring.

>Nerine Komikado
>A devout Catholic, virtuous and gentle, an all-around good-natured person
One thing that made me find Nerine's character hard to believe is the fact that she thinks getting kidnapped by (supposedly) God is a happy thing.

Like, how devout must you be?

>>2227819
That's why she needed a dashing prince like Yuzuriha to rescue her from the evil clutches of christianity. Girl is hopelessly brainwashed since she was born, but at least she didn't end up being Saori v2.

>>2227920
who's saori?

You mean Shiori right? The one who choose to become a nun instead of running away with Sei

>>2228254
Yes, her, my bad.

Newfag in this thread, so i recently finished the 1st VN and i wanted to know why Mayuri left at the end? Was it because she knew about the breakup of their group if she and Suoh didn't break up? Or was it because she got scared of her feelings again?

Sorry if this has been explained before, but since i just finished it, i wanted to hear some of your opinions on it.

>>2229007
It's unclear why she left. We ought to find out in the final volume. However, there is a short video titled "Lust" (not available in english) that features Mayuri and based on those inner thoughts of hers -- the fact that she mentions a certain "someone" who gave her a certain choice or something -- we've been speculating that she was forced or blackmailed into leaving. She might have done it for Suoh's own good, thinking that it's for the best or who knows. It's unlikely that she left on her own accord and for no good reason but we don't know for sure yet.

>>2229020
I did found it pretty weird how excited she was about her date with Suoh the night before, then suddenly in the morning she's gone without any explanation as to why. Is there a main suspect on who might have forced her exit?

Anyways, thanks a lot for your answer, onee-sama. Where can i see or download said video?

>>2229046
You can watch it here:
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3471357/index_7.html

>>2229053
Amazing. Thanks again, onee-sama, you're really helpful. Do you know if theres any rough translations out there? I could tell what is happening by the images alone, but i would love to know the whole dialogue too.

>>2229056
>Do you know if theres any rough translations out there?
Not that I know of, sorry.

>>2229063
Don't worry, that was still very helpful. But the video itself seems like PV of the next japanese VN, isn't it?

>>2229068
No, it's not. It's just some extra PV that's essentially meant to give a little more insight on what Mayuri was thinking during Spring. Something like that.

>>2229056
I've been trying to post the url for several minutes, but I keep on getting the spam error.

>>2229075
the url for what?

>>2229079
The url for the subbed Lust PV.
I'm not sure about the tl quality since I haven't watched it.

>>2229081
What website is it hosted on?
Maybe try leaving some spaces between slashes and dots? Or you know butcher the url a bit with some ()

>>2229082
Facebook.
I already tried those.

>>2229083
If nothing else works, try putting it in a pastebin, and post a link to that instead.

>>2229083
>>2229085
Different anon but here: http://pastebin.com/7czGiHHw

>>2229086
Amazing, thanks a lot for that, onee-samas. You've all been extremely helpful today.

Who could "that person" be and what was their will?

Wonder if Summer or Fuyu-hen will come out first next year.

I need a new Flowers release. Somehow this is the only yuri-related thing I'm looking forward to anymore.

>>2229169
Based on what I've seen from her twitter, if the translator for Natsu-hen hasn't been translating something else for the past few months, she probably started tl'ing way before they announced the localization.
The Natsu-hen translation will most likely be finished before Fuyu-hen is released, but I'm not sure about the whole game. Probably Fuyu-hen.

>>2229175
I might be wrong on this, but i think JASTUSA announced the localization of Natsu-hen immediately after releasing Haru-hen, which means that they're probably in the last stages of finishing translation and they're only looking for a good date to release it.

>>2229186
I doubt it.

They saying lightly that they'd continue the series, maybe. But the official announcement was just a few days ago.

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/814326624921522176

>>2229186
Right after releasing Haru-hen they added Natsu-hen to flowersgame.com, and they said they /might/ localize the rest of the series.

But it was only announced a few days ago.

>they're probably in the last stages of finishing translation
Probably, yes.

>>2229192
>>2229193

My bad then. Still, i like to believe that they were only looking for translators when they said that they might localize the rest of the series and were just waiting till the translator was already in an advanced stage with translating the game to announce it.

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I know I'm late but what the fuck was springs' ending? Is it implied somewhere why Mayuri left or are those spoilers for later games?

Well I picked this up recently (hurrah for Steam sales) and seems a pretty good game so far.

I was vaguely disappointed to discover that the library book riddle is basically just japanese wordplay. With the lack of any real hints to help the player I guessed pretty quickly this was the case though, and some looking around confirmed this. Basically those who don't know japanese have no hope of getting it right without googling stuff around and using google translate to confirm...

>>2229736
>>2229086

>>2229736
No, those are spoilers for the 1st VN. You could watch the video on the pastebin to see a hint as to why Mayuri left.

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>coming soon

>>2230298
She's so fucking beautiful!! I fucking love Mayuri

>>2230298
The new year is looking good already!

>>2230016
>>2230018
>need to create account to watch the video
Jesus. Can't you just tell me the spoiler?

>>2230438
You don't need an account to watch it. I don't have one and I can watch it just fine.
And did you even bother to red through the thread? For example this anon here >>2229020
is talking about that video.

>>2230446
In mobile it was forcing me to create an account, but you're right, in desktop you can watch it without one.

>For example this anon here >>2229020
is talking about that video.
I see, so it wasn't my ADD making me miss why Mayuri left, it was just intentionally unclear. Thanks.

>>2230298
Hype. Though, it will probably be out around the same time as usual.

Hopefully, it's not the whole game without Mayuri until the end/extra. Innocent Grey needs to make up for those fun time Suoh losing out in past 2 games.

And I want a fucking drama cd full of lovey-dovey times.

>>2230304
Stop posting and go find her already, Suoh.

Why isn't there any way to pirate this?

>>2231335
You mean the japanese VNs?

>>2231340
Well, the English translation.

>>2231342
Only the first has been translated. The second one its on its last stages of that and it might come out soon. The third one is out there, but its japanese only and unless you're fluent in japanese, you'll need find a rough translation on a pastebin or somewhere like that to be able to play it.

Bought this on the steam sale. While the story is a little iffy right now, the fucking music is beautiful. Like its on a tier of its own from most Yuri work, does anyone know who composed it?

>>2231899
https://vndb.org/v14267

Should be there somewhere. The art is something else as well, to be honest its probably one of the best looking VNs out there.

>>2230001
Well, it's a VN created by a Japanese studio intended for Japanese audience. It's only the first mystery that was that way anyhow.

>>2231899
Printemps story is very s-l-o-w. But I like the characters, so I still found it enjoyable until it really picked up.

I wonder why there is quite a few of youtubers doing LP of Kindred Spirits, but very few doing Flowers. I own the game, but I also rather enjoy watching LPs.

There's this guy who narrates pretty ok, but talks so much.

Why aren't the nuns in this series homophobic assholes?

>>2232446
I thought that while playing.
I didn't even like Dahlia at the start because she was christian.
Seriously, if all christian were like that, I wouldn't hate them.

They even talk about how sexist the bible is and she agrees.

>>2232446
Sister Basquiat's implied to be a homo herself. She told Yuzuriha she fell in love once, and she could've only fallen in love with a girl. She never left the school, and obviously there aren't any guys around.
I dunno about the other nuns.

>>2232446
I think the ones we don't saw are kinda homophobic. I remember when they made the amitie interviews right before the end, they say that having 2 girls in love its just a phase or something and they tried to avoid those type of situations. Although, i guess they also say that while they don't condone that behavior, they don't punish it either, so i guess you could say they are pretty understandable assholes.

>>2232461
I think you're remembering that a bit wrong.

>>2232472
Care to tell me what it says? I played the game a long time ago, so i know i'm wrong.

>>2232476
Dalia was the only person talking with Suoh then and the issue with amitie having a relationship was how the 3rd amitie would feel, nothing about it being a phase.

>>2232479
I remember her talking about the other nuns opinions quite clearly when she talked with Suoh.

>>2232485
Another anon here. No I don't remember ever reading that.

>>2232476
>>2232485
I played it recently. She just say that the academy doesn't condone it, but won't forbid it, too. Usually they overlook those kind of relationship. But this time was different.

>>2232491
Okay, i might be thinking about something different.

I would expect Christian Nuns to do all in there power to keep the two from becoming real lovers. Weird.

I know some priests who are okay with gay relationships, but there exceptions not the norm. Would think it to be the same with nuns.

>>2232510
It's not like they made it a mission school so they could deal with Christian beliefs. It's just the standard yuri setting, a trope that goes back to stuff like Hana Monogatari.

>>2232510
They probably wanted to make a safe setting for yuri, since they're selling it to yuri fans. They even say it: "it's normal here, but in the outside world people have prejudice".

>>2232510
Its an all-girls school, not a convent.

Can anyone explain why the answer for the second mystery's first question is wrong? The game expects the answer of Italy but no matter how one looks that's wrong. Simply going by christian headcount the correct answer is USA, and specifically by catholic headcount Brazil, which isn't even an option. Did they just mess up that one?

>>2232531
It was a mistake. It got changed in PSP version to something like "A country which has a country inside it".

>>2232536
It's a Steam release, so one would think it'd be very simple to fix that version too... and there's multiple correct answers to that question too. South Africa springs to mind immediately.

>>2232545
You know, I remember searching about that on google, using the words they used, and I did find Italy as a answer.

So I don't know. Maybe they did the same.

>>2232531
I think what they wanted to ask was the highest percentage, not the highest number. But even then it's still incorrect because Vatican City is its own country.

>>2232558
Vatican might be a good answer to the question of, which country has the lowest birth rates.

>>2232574
But I don't want them to change the question. There's a big reason why it has to do with religion.

What kinds of mysteries are featured in the game? Murder?

>>2235593
No. Not yet, maybe. Hopefully not. No.

>>2232521
To be more specific, it's an all-girls missionary school.

>>2232531
I searched for most religious catholic country and got the answer the game expected from me.

>>2232531
It's in a world where the religion is "anime catholicism" and not "catholicism", so the country with more catholics is Italy and not Brazil, and the city with more catholics is Rome and not Mexico city (If I remember correctly, Komikado senpai say that was born in the city with the more catholics, and I don't think she's mexican)

As a catholic, it's already weird that Komikado senpai tell us that "she is the daughter of a priest, who his himself the son of a priest" In Catholicism, a priest can't marry himself or have children (though he can before becoming a priest, but It still seems weird).


Perhaps change the question to "the country from which the pope usually come?"
That way the answer is still Italy, and it's catholic-related (and not weird).

Holy fuck how can anybody like Rikka? She's a fucking blackmailing tramp. Does she not have a fucking soul to use her friend's homosexual struggle as fucking leverage to get laid?

Anyone counted the number of unfixed typos still in? I've myself noticed five or six.

>>2235634
Shh you'll trigger that one delusional Rikkafag and we'll never hear the end of it again

>>2235634
The worst thing is that she never properly apologizes for what she did, meaning that she didn't really feel any remorse or shame for her wrongdoings.

>>2235634
Did she even desire anything but a "Class-S" relationship with Suoh? Don’t think she would’ve had such a reaction regarding Mayuri’s lesbianism if she herself wanted to have sex with Suoh.

>>2236027
Her reaction to Mayuri's story itself was sympathetic, not homophobic. The fact she also saw it as an opportunity to get Suoh is not a sign her feelings for Suoh weren't serious (if anything it's the opposite: she was driven by the strength of her feeling, things like seeing Mayuri and Suoh looking like they were almost kissing, and Suoh not taking her confession seriously).

Is summer going to be yuri? On vndb there was no homosexual protagonist tag. And there were no mentions of Erika being gay.

>>2236563
>Is this yuri VN gonna be yuri?
No shit duh.

>>2236563
The game is all about Erika discovering her gay.

>>2235639
Well, you're in for more.

>>2236563
No dude, summer is totally a het VN. Just wait and see what is the reason Erika can't get off the wheelchair.

>tfw summer is probably a year from being translated
I can't take it. I want it so badly now. We're in for the long haul, aren't we?

>>2237348
Nope. The translator said that they're in advanced stages of the translation process, if i had to guess an ETA, i'll say this one would release around the same time the spring one did.

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Sup, newcomer here (this game is fucking great btw)

I'm confused though; is this an error? How are they 14? Aren't they in high school? (Highschool in Japan starts in grade 10, aka 15-16, no?)

>>2237869
No, it's not an error.
It's not explained in the game. All we know is that instead of 15-16, it's 14-15. Some anons guessed that their school has 4 years of high school, but like most high schools in Japan it only has 3 years.

>>2236596
keked out loud.

>>2238237
So maybe there are 4th years?

Still DUMB imo

>>2238272
There aren't any 4th years.

>>2238239
Yeah, that was really funny. Who the fuck asks if a sequel to a yuri VN is yuri?

Why is Yuzuriha the student council president when she's only a second-year?

>>2238911
Because it's possible for a 1st year to stand and get elected around Xmas time

>>2184134
I'm not really looking for spoilers but I just finished the true end and then looked at the trailer of the second volume, does Suoh stop being the protagonist? What about the reason why Mayuri left does it get some explanation on the second volume?

>>2239235
Suoh is still part of the story since she's Erika's friend, the POV character of summer, she's just not the POV character anymore.

We still get to see Suoh moping over losing Mayuri and some hints are dropped here and there, but nothing we won't know what happened to Mayuri until the 4th VN, which will be released this year in Japan.

>>2239235
The protagonist of the Summer volume is Erika. Third volume is Yuzuriha. Winter will most likely be Suoh again and will be the one where that mystery unraveled. We also get to see some scenes of Suoh trying to find a lead to that mystery during Summer and Autumn.

>>2239308
>>2239427

I see, thanks, kinda sad I won't be playing Suoh for some time

>>2239774
That feeling would quickly fade away, trust me. Erika and Yuzuriha are extremely likeable main characters and their stories are really entertaining on their own. Plus, you get to see how everyone else feels about Suoh and it gives you a new outlook on her character.

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>>2239787
I'm sure they'll be likeable but I prefer autism protags like Suoh

Ok finished Rikka's route why no kiss scene?

>>2239809
After reading the thread I must say to the people criticizing Rikka, Mayuri did some preety scummy stuff too, and tried to keep Rikka away from Suoh I know blackmail is bad but I still liked Rikka more

>>2239816

Yeah... Blackmailing someone into loving you is still way fucking worse than anything Mayuri ever did and its not even close.

>>2239831
Stop being a baby, she's a 14 year old, her flaws only make her more human

>>2239837
>Stop being a baby

Yeah, i'm the baby for pointing out how anything "scummy" stuff Mayuri did doesn't even come close to what Rikka ever did. Also, isn't Mayuri 14 too? Why doesn't she get a pass from you?

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>>2239846
I'm saying Rikka is not the only one who did selfish stuff, they both did wrong, Rikka just ended up being more likeable for me

>>2239849
And i'm saying that Mayuri didn't do anything even remotely close to what Rikka did to even be called selfish.

>>2239853
She did

>>2239855
Oh really? Did she bound Suoh and broke her legs or something similar to that? Because if she didn't do anything like that, then what Rikka did is still the worst.

>>2239859
Of course what Rikka did is worse but that doesn't change the fact that Mayuri was also being manipulative, if you are gonna condone Rikka for her actions and saying how she's so horrible at least remember she's not the only guilty one

>>2239863
What manipulative shit she did? Talking shit behind Suoh's back because she was jealous of how much attention she received from Rikka?

>>2239867
Exactly, Suoh already has few friends and even then Mayuri tried to manipulate the girl who holds Suoh in the highest regard to not get closer to her, that's preety bad

>>2239892
Yeah... No, thats actually a pretty normal behaviour in 14 year old girls. Blackmailing however, not so much, only if you're a sociopath.

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>>2239899
It's only normal when it's convenient to you, I get it

>>2239906
You probably have never been around any actual human beings, but it is pretty normal for girls her age, especially when it comes to love and that stuff.

Anyways, i think i know who you are know, so i won't be getting into it anymore, have a nice one, Rikkafag.

>>2184134
Mayuri end made absolutely mad

>>2201342
>I'm going to tell everyone she's a lesbian unless you tell everyone we're in a relationship and kiss and stuff

one of you is going to have to explain the logistics of this to me

Also, considering the true end does Rikka get involved with anyone else in the sequels, or does she remain the cuckquean queen of the academy?