Nanoha thread "Is it all right to touch her highness'

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>>1970880
Kids learning from parents.

https://twitter.com/syu1

From reading some of Syu's twitter posts it seems that Innocent manga is over for good with no sequel.

inb4 he is re-hired to work on Force

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Will Fabia's inherited memories ignite a flame of passion for Einhart's hegemon might?

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>>1970889
>Force

Christ, would they still try to force that shit?

Literally no one would care if they just literally pretended the whole thing never happened and actually did a story about characters people give a shit about.

And in an organic way, not that "oh, those characters you like? They like this character so you should like them too" they keep trying to pull.

>>1970943
Yes and InnocentS ended. If we're lucky they'll start Innocent Vivid or something. I want more Innocent.

>>1971036
I am kinda curious how an Innocent Force would be like

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>>1971146
In permanent hiatus?

>>1970889
YES! YES! YES!
IT'S FINALLY FUCKING OVER

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>>1971390
Calm down, I didn't like its use fo the characters either, but seems that many anons did.

Just wish they'd stop trying to reinvent the series with every new story.

I doubt we'll ever see anything that happened between A's and StrikerS. Well, maybe, but not animated

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More mangos in the proper continuity would be nice indeed. Assuming they are not terrible.

>>1971399
It just needs to get back to basics. Develop old characters and plot points instead of throwing in a hundred new ones with each new installment, and try to remember what made the series work in the first place. Hint: it wasn't power limiters and low-level military political squabbles.

>>1971480
Going over everything because of the dearth of new worthwhile material, analyzing it to death, I'm convinced like 60% of everything worthwhile about the series was unintentional.

The second they start talking about the series going forward and they start introducing new characters instead of talking about Nanoha and Fate's new adventure is the second they already failed.

>>1970876
That was slightly creepy.

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>>1970876
>>1971696
The aftermath of Sieg touching Ixpellia's sleeping body. I guess this makes her the dad?

>>1971480
>.Hint: it wasn't power limiters and low-level military political squabbles.

Maybe it it me, but I found that dynamic interesting. There was hints of a problem like that with Admiral Graham... but showing it was something.
I only really had two issues with it, the sub-plot was very poorly written and the simple fact that they didn't expand on it in a thinly veiled attempt to keep the world rather simple.
I don't think that it was far to the viewer to try and keep the status quo when you had something like the Shadow Council dictating TSAB's actions. I highly doubt that the corruption ended with them, it's a damn shame that there wasn't more to that than what was given.

The power limiters was just dumb however.

>>1971726
She touched her hand, didn't she? To take advantage of an unconscious princess like that, how savage. Will she at least take responsibility?

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>>1971891
Actually it seems they both had a go. What were you doing, Chantez.

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Actually I expected Sein and Chantez to raise an alarm when seeing that, because everyon in the know should expect that to be a marriage (those zombie terminators from Sound Stage X, pic on the left) spawning.

>>1970876
is that a corpse being preserved?

>>1971908
No, magical coma or something. Basically Ixpellia is an actual ruler from Belkan Era like Claus or Olivie, but she had some fucked up enhancements that allowed here to produce minions called Marriages. But if I recall correctly from Sound Stage X, it broke down, could not be controlled and also she would fall into long periods of coma/hibernation after a while, only waking up for periods of time - which is what happened in SSX. So after Subaru rescued her, she fell into the coma shortly after. The time she hibernates for is supposed to be long but not exactly predictable.

>>1971152
Bwahahaha

Title: Administration Information Magazine
Vivio: W-... Who?
Nanoha: It's Fate-mama
*there there*
*Nanoha~*

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>>1971901
Reminds me, isn't this the same artist as from the StrikerS Comics? I don't think I've seen using him (her?) later.

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Had nice Tia/Subaru.

>>1971392
I will never calm down. You're basically asking me to stop celebrating the series' possible return to relevancy.

>>1972284
How is having one manga less going to make the series more relevant?

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>>1972294
It's finally going to return to its roots! We'll have interesting and morally conflicted characters, Fate will be cool and Nanoha will be penetrating stuff, the plot will be simple yet charming, the character bloat will diminish and Bardiche will talk again!

It'll happen this time. I'm sure it will.

>>1972796
One must imagine Anonymous happy.

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>>1972796
Innocent had interesting characters, Fate was cool and Nanoha was penetrating stuff, the plot was simple yet charming and the character bloat was diminished

>>1972848
This, and Innocent was never meant to be a continuation of the main plot, so I seriously doubt that its ending will affect the franchise in any way, aside from maybe spawning yet another retelling of S1.
The one that really needs to go is Vivid.

>>1972852
It would be nice if Syu was hired to make another Nanoha manga set after Force or made instead of it as new continuation, but chances for that are smaller than us getting Movie 3rd.

>>1972796
Except Innocent was mostly treating side characters as side characters, and was itself an aside that did not affect the main continuity.
I'm more worried what what will follow will be another Force.

>>1972852
Vivid seems to be getting interesting

>>1972856
Syu making something to replace Force would be great

>>1972852


>>Vivid needs to go

I agree with this. In a way, I almost prefer Force over it. Well, they're both terrible in very different ways, but the extended character list is something both of them fail at. THe family moments are nice, but they're few and far inbetween, and everything feels so generic with the constant martial arts crap. And I generally like tournaments in anime, but I didn't like Vivids tournament...

>>1972284
How does Innocent being done mean some new manga series will arise?

>>1972994
Half of the appeal of magical girls especially in Nanoha is girls blasting each other with giant lasers of doom and having gigantic explosions around the place. That doesn't happen in Vivid. It be nicer if the girls in Vivid actually had varying fighting styles that don't all involve getting into close quarters sword and fist fights.

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>>1973048
It was also disappointing that other girls stole the Takamachi thunder with a Starlight Breaker ripoff.

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How gay is it if they didn't exchange bikini bottoms, but did exchange pareos/scarfs (or what are those things called in english)?

>>1973146
Now they're just edgy lesbians trying to start new trends, they even got their child to comply.

>>1973055
She deserves a breaker more than Vivio

>>1972856
I honestly would not mind if they redid Force to try and ground out some of it's issues.

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Some new anthology short is out @ Vivid TLs.

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can anyone here direct me towards any information on this?
I've not had much luck looking up whatever alternate continuation this is

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>>1978706

>>1978706
>>1978708
Seems like Nanoha and Fate's love is so strong it bends the logic of alternate universes to make them get together even when one of them is a completely different person in this new universe.

>>1978706
It's just a little slideshow extra where Hayate and Nanoha switched places in the story, so Hayate wields Raising Heart and Nanoha was chosen by the Book.

To that end though, regardless of who beat Fate in S1, NanoFate is a fundamental law of reality.

>>1978788
>>1978777
Is this all there is then? Kinda hoped to see more and maybe the fiction that went with, but oh well

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>>1978823
This is all. It's a short bonus from the first season BD Box.
There are five Picture Drama's. All of them are alternative stories.
Yagami spin off (Movie 2nd BD)
https://mega.nz/#!oFFABDYZ!kLcFCA5GUaflZHV4O-oHdhaWiKpdDSmZC6s8upswIFY
Madical Shamal (Movie 2nd)
https://mega.nz/#!UM8iFKLK!r0H0xaTSLCgRPjtq60wS7P2cxbTljwWaFr8RTgeK6go
Hayate finds RH (first season BD Box)
https://mega.nz/#!RdtUADoR!XQuQTKbUZR0KMPr8RI0b9n1KgLpkISBNYa_jJJLW4P0
Medical Shamal 2 (A's BD Box)
https://mega.nz/#!sFclyQwK!8SOBFL9sC5jHAANDf9XQHpZYjVp0cWdyKR70kT0pkuw
Strikers School (Strikers BD Box)
https://mega.nz/#!NctBVQQR!sI28J1W3U8HKZxp3Fk6isbh9NwhRkzFpjcbcCze30-E

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Damn.

http://www.tamurayukari.com/information/2016/02/674.html

I'll just leave this here.

>>1980454
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-10/voice-actress-yukari-tamura-cancels-concert-and-radio-shows-puts-site-on-hiatus/.98522

Does this mean no Movie 3rd?

>>1980568
Its finally over
She is going to kill herself ;-;

>>1980813
Or worse get married

Joking. Anyway, she lost her voice at an event a while back, and since then I've been getting the impression that her voice might be failing her.

http://www.entnet.org/content/common-problems-can-affect-your-voice
>Using inappropriate pitch (too high or too low) when speaking

I'd expect that one to be a common problem in the industry. My guess is that she just can't continue as a VA anymore.

>>1980568
;_;

>>1980813
Nana, please, save Yukarin from herself!

I've never really bought the rumors about her depression, but this news worries me a bit.

>>1980848
Doing VA work shouldn't be as stressing as live singing performances. Should be possible to do with more relaxed pace too.

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>>1981129
Voice acting is a very demanding work. I am not saying being a singer is easy but you don't force your voice that much when you sing
Seriously, try to talk in a weird voice for any amount of time. Your throat is not going to like it
Of course doing both is undoubtedly a bad thing in the long run

>>1980848
I'm sure she's just cutting back on work so she can take care of the adorable waif she and Nana have adopted.

>>1981277
Yeah, but you can take pauses. If the production accomodates a bit, you could work in smaller cuts of lines as opposed to long straining session, and so on.

http://aritedrop.blogspot.fi/2016/02/nanoha-innocents-chapter-5

Innocents Chapter 5 English Scanlation

http://tamurayukari-diary.com/?eid=2711

>>1983150
What the fuck is happening? First the concert was cancelled, now her contract with King Records is over. What the hell is wrong with Yukarin?

>>1983150
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-12/voice-actress-yukari-tamura-contract-with-king-records-ends/.98647

I would trade NanoFate being confirmed for Yukarin's happiness. She deserves it.

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>>1983239
If it wasn't for Nana-chan and NanoFate being confirmed I bet Yukarin would have been even more depressed all these past years. You can't trade one thing for the other.

>>1983150
Translated ver.

http://img.2chan.us/post/139218883864/translation-yukari-tamuras-post-on-leaving-her

>He found me a tie-up role as the main character of an anime,
It's Nanoha isn't it.

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>>1983431
Funny, I usually interpreted Fate as being more the mama than the papa

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>>1984294
Fate is the soft and kind papa that pampers her daughter when she's home from work, and Nanoha the strict bur cheerful mama.

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>>1984294
I usually interpreted both of them to be the mama

>>1984307
They technically are, but the writer seems to have based their family on the stereotypical Japanese family with one child, a mother and a hard working father that is away much of the time.

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>>1984294
Being awkward when trying hard to fill unfitting social roles is part of Fate's sheer moe. It's stil like when she was small - hard as steel combatant, gentle insecure person.

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>>1984313
It only makes sense that Vivio would hardly recognize her mother-papa in prince-mode.

>>1984311
Yet at the same time their respective personalities would tend to place Nanoha as the papa and Fate as the mama. Fate in particular tends to be more motherly, having already been a mother figure to Erio and Caro by the time she adopted Vivio. It's maybe less flagrant with Nanoha but she's more akin to a father you'd see in a shonen manga, with far less doubt than Fate while actively encouraging her child to give her all and follow her steps.
I like to think NanoFate were deliberately setup to make it so there could be no clear "this one's the mama and that one's the papa".

>>1984313
I bet she has nightmares of Precia's voice telling her that just as she was unfit to be a daughter, she is now an unfit mother and a partner.

>>1984331
To me that is because Fate is a lot like Alicia's Precia while Nanoha is more like Momoko

>>1984336
Hmm, interesting idea. Although Fate has Lidy as a model too, I guess the impression of the old Precia from Alicia's memories must be strong.

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>>1984338
Lindy, I mean.

The other day I noticed how Fate rides on Fried here, with Erio and Caro, nice touch.

>>1984338
Lindy is there in the sense that Fate likes to collect super strong kids but as a mother she acts a lot more like Precia
They love and pamper their kids a lot and always try to spend as much time as they can with them but because of work they are never with them

>>1984483
First time noticing the snowman they're making in this image is Nanoha.

>>1984486
Ah, right. I also didn't notice that hairdo.

>>1984336

I don't really see many similarities between Fate and Alicia. Though a lot of this is probably because of Fates abusive upbringing. I think they were pretty similar before Precia went full time bitch mode.

>>1984524
No no, not Alicia but the memory of kind Precia in Alicia's memories. That guy meant that Fate-mama is a bit similar to Precia before Alicia died.

>>1984524
I was trying to say that Fate is like the Precia before Alicia died, not that she is like Alicia

>>1984524
If Precia is to be believed Fate was a different person from the very beginning despite having all of Alicia's memories
Thats why she was a failure

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>>1985958
I was a bit under the impression that that opinion of hers might have been an artifact of going crazy, at least to some degree? That she got the apriori idea that Fate isn't Alicia into her head and then when Fate was born, every little detail, real or illusory, only strengthened that view. However because she was crazy, it might have not been a fact, maybe the differences were small, I think the only one the anime shows is that one was left-handed, one right-handed.

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Smiling_Back_When_You're_Next_to_Me_(Nanoha_color_doujin)_[ron].rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6y4zc0au5m9i0as/

>>1987805
Oh, nice! Thanks a lot.

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Sweet.

>>1988108
Oh man my heart.

>>1986641
That's how I saw it too. Makes it more tragic in a way.

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>>1988156
C-courage, anon! That Feito has loose hair tied at the end, meaning it's reasonably happy post-adoption specimen.

>>1988245

I never even knew Fate had a scene where her hair was all bundled up into a single ribbon at the top. At least until Force. She's sure had a lot of different styles over the years. I suppose that's a perk of having epic hair.

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>>1988363
>I suppose that's a perk of having epic hair.
There are some disadvantages to having long hair too, pic related. And this is why Fate should make sure to spoon her wife during the whole night.

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>>1988363
Her twintails start at the back of her head, so it often looks like that, but it is her usual 9yo hairdo.

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>>1988395
That reminds me of this manga.

>>1988405
how did it end?

>>1988472
They learned it's better to grind against the butt to get off.

>>1988478
I love it when manga teach me life lessons.

>>1988245

I'll take one of those specimens, please.

>>1988245
No, thats the extremely depressed I-failed-my-officer's-exam-3-times-and-my-waifu-is-in-a-coma specimen

>>1988640
But those things are workable.
>>1988472
Shaved.

>>1973218
>>edgy
>>cheese cake for men to fap to.

>>1988839
>confirmed how?
Oh boy here we go again

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>>1988912
Calm down, that was irony.

>great contributor to these threads
Actually sometimes I wonder how many people are still interested in Nanoha, because I have 30 posts in this one besides starting it, and kept faking acivity in the past ones too. I guess without forcing things, not much would be going on.

>>1988838
There are no men in Mid, anon, if anything they would be trying to seduce other women, but they're too committed to their relationship for that.

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>>1988956
Well, I was serious in one thing - those arguments about whether NanoFate (marriage, love, whatever exactly) is confirmed or not never go anywhere are just ugly. At least around here.

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>>1988973
I wouldn't call talki9ng to a wall an argument. It's usually just one guy shitposting that comes here every couple of months that turns a deaf ear to everyone while pretending to be ignorant about NanoFate canonicity/marriage/Vivio's adoption and claims that Force is good. Same guy posts on /a/ Nanoha threads.

>>1986641
It is and it isn't. The simple truth is that under Precia's expectations, anything that Project Fate produced was expect to be a carbon copy of it's source. Any deviation outside of that (which is what is Fate in a nutshell of the project) would be considered a failure.
Irony being that Fate isn't so much of a failure... she is more of a mirror image, where Alicia was left-handed, Fate was right, Where Alicia potential (aside from death) was limited, Fate was stronger and so on.
For Precia, all that didn't matter because at the end of the day despite there looks and memories being the same. Fate was different, and with all the time spent producing Fate... Precia could see nothing less but a failure.

Which is why you slowly see Precia brake during the Movie. It's not so much the failure that makes her crazy (that just makes her VERY angry), it's the fact that due to the time... she is desperately trying to find a method that works in a lot less time.

>>1989318
Also remember how she was keeping the original body in the tank (probably a mistake in hindsight). If you go through the way of cloning, it is very tempting to start to worry if you really made a proper clone of Alicia, and that would make you sensitive to any signs to the contraray you would see. You would probably misjudge after that.

If you imagine you did this thing - now you have the second girl, and you stand before the decission, are you going to keep her and just bury the preserved body? If you have doubts as to whether you really saved her by the cloning and memory transfer, you probably couldn't to it and it would force you to try to revive the actual body. It would be easy to go mad I guess.

does anyone know the name of this doujin in which nanoha and fate can't communicate with each other because their devices aren't working?
they try to talk but they don't understand what the other is saying, nanoha is speaking in Japanese and fate in another language.

>>1993807
Nanoha and Fate can't speak the same language? Is this canonical at all or is the doujin author just making stuff up?

>>1993831
It is mentioned that mid and japanese sound similar and the only mayor difference is in the writing
Thats why they talked with videomails instead of letters between a's and the first season

>>1993807
I remember I read that one, gonna try to find the name.

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>>1993807
Found it.

http://nanofate.us/content/can-we-talk-about-love-magical-girl-lyrical-nanoha-fanbook-album-asterisk-story-1

It's been a long time since I last read Vivid, how is it going? Any plot so far?

And what happened to that 3rd movie they said they were going to make?

>>1993919
No.

They haven't said anything about it for at least a year.

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>>1993919
Hard to tell since we are two centuries behind but the last chapters translated were quite good and developed Vivio and Einhart's friendship

No news about the movie, you should give up all hope, most people here already did

>>1993918
thank you anon, I remember the plot being a little bit different the same with the artstyle but that might be my memory being shitty

could you girls recommend me some good fanfics?
now that I have more free time I would like to spend it reading fanfics

>>1993938
I enjoy the slice of life in Vivid, but I'd love a more serious plot.

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http://vividtranslations.com/2016/02/26/nanoha-anthology-triple-release-8-9-10/

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>>1994206
I remember seeing this one years ago. Wasn't this translated already?

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Haha, Small Boss kawaii desu

>>1994210
The whole anthology feels like that, don't know why

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>>1994210
>>1994299
I think this doujin came out originally between 2007 and 2008, I have some old and bad raws from back then. I don't know if someone translated it before.

>>1994333
NanoFate.us did at least one stray chapter from Anthology. No group certainly did them all.

>>1994072
I keep coming back to Infinity....
It's rather well built, good plot, funny, lots of action, kind of tease happy, and not really a ship fest (really there are way to many of those with the Lyrical franchise, but given how it works... fans just go buck and ham with it)

>>1994603
That fanfic doesn't seem /u/ related from the first chapter, which is not something common, I wouldn't be surprised if this author went out of his way to make NanoFate not a couple in further chapters just because.

>>1994626
It not really, but given that there isn't much else going on with the franchise officially, it something that I turned to for the same sense of fun as the first two seasons.
Infinity is that and then some...

But yes, if you are looking for something more /u/... you are kind of out of luck with that stroy. As such as it does poke at the whole shipping thing, there isn't anything to say that the two near any point of consummation. And frankly, there is little to argue at that point in the timeline anyway (between A's and StrikerS)

>>1994647
>And frankly, there is little to argue at that point in the timeline anyway (between A's and StrikerS)
You're right, but I'd say it's a missed opportunity to ignore the subject in such an extensive story, that's after all the period when they started dating.

>if you are looking for something more /u/
I'm not the same person, but I'm also looking for recommendations, there are so many fanfics I don't even know where to start. I wouldn't mind reading something cute and simple now, I've been reading too many mystery novel and heavy books recently.

>>1994647
I would say thats when it is more to argue
A lot of shit happened in those ten years that we don't know about

>>1994658
The author can always say that he just wanted to write a story before they became a couple and wanted to avoid addressing their romantic feelings, which is pretty much what he wrote in the foreword. Not all the Nanoha fanfics have to be about NanoFate being lovey dovey, even though I bet most readers would like to have that at least to a certain degree in the stories they read.

>>1984331
>>1984311
fucking heteronormativity

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So, there is that theory that the author actually hates the yuri path Nanoha/Fate has taken through the first three season and it was not intended.

Recently it randomly occured to me how that notion doesn't really fit with Vivid at all. If that was true and they were really even trying to derail that NanoFate train, why the hell would they start a spinoff that blatantly tries to replicate the exactly same shipping thing that was supposedly not favored?

Vivio gets a Fate Mk.II girl friend, but the subtext only gets worse, the Claus history is a huge invitation/excuse for yuri shipping right there in the canon. To say the least, if the writers really hated yuri in NanoFate, they do nothing to prevent it between the "next gen".

>>1996612
>So, there is that theory that the author actually hates the yuri path Nanoha/Fate has taken through the first three season and it was not intended
I don't know why anyone would think that, I have seen that idea posted once or twice on /a/, but it doesn't seem to be more than speculation based only on the fact that Dog Days isn't nearly as gay as Nanoha. NanoFate's absurd popularity starting with the first 2 series may have influenced the author making their relationship text and relevant to the plot, but ultimately it was him, the writer, who had the choice to do whatever he wanted with his characters.

>>1996612
>actually hates

Nah but it was definitely unintended. When given the choice between Generic Male Lead and Generic Proto-LN hero, Japan chose the yuri route of all things, and the rest is history.

>>1996612
Because they knew that it would make them more money.

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I noticed Takuya is posting some Nanoha art on twatter, is that some calendar?

>>1997493
Honestly, I don't think that they knew. I think that they got caught up in the rush of success.
And in that rush, it became clear that yuri teasing would grab more attention, so they just rode it for as long as possible. It's a utter pity that Nanoha, for the most part, has pained itself into a corner if the writing staff wanted to reverse it... not that they seem to want to do that.

And the fact is, The Lyrical Nanoha franchise is far from alone with that... Look at Puella Magi Madoka Magica.

>>1998732
Pretty sure Madoka was meant to be a yuri teases show from the beginning.

>>1998732
It's not tesing when it's part of the plot and text as opposed to just fanservice. Unless you're talking about the new Vivid girls, but it may be too soon to judge.

>>1998829
Too bad that Madoka doesn't reciprocates, though.

>>1999278
And how did you come to that conclusion?

>>1999280
When she friendzoned her on the last episode of the anime? And how she resisted to Homura's plan to be with her in Rebellion? Homura is clearly in love with her, but Madoka only loves her as a friend.

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>>1998905
The vivid girls are gayer than nanofate

>>1999301
>When she friendzoned her on the last episode of the anime
That wasn't friendzoning. Friendzoning is when you confess your love to someone and they say "I'm sorry, but I only like you as a friend". Just someone telling you that you're their best friend doesn't mean that they aren't attracted to you, or that they don't want to be in a romantic relationship with you in the future. If you look at Homura's reaction in that scene, she clearly doesn't take it as some sort of rejection.

And let's face it, you aren't going to see a yuri love confession in an anime like Madoka. That's even less likely than having them kiss. The 'you're my best friend' is the closest you're ever going to get. Someone even made a collage of scenes from various yuri subtext anime with lines like that.

>And how she resisted to Homura's plan to be with her in Rebellion?
That's because she sacrificed herself to save humanity, and from her point of view it looked like Homura was damning humanity to the same horrible fate again just so that they could be together. That's something Madoka couldn't accept. She would have behaved the exact same way if they became a couple during the course of the series.

>>1999322
>>And let's face it, you aren't going to see a yuri love confession in an anime like Madoka
But Homura declares her love for Madoka in Rebellion.

>>1999313
They still have to start marrying and adopting their own little girls get to the extreme of the originals.

>>1999322
Homura confessed her love, and was showed to us in a negative light too (obsessive love, kind of funny because almost every romance story ever is about it.). So, your point is moot. But let's end it here and talk about NanoFate and/or the vivid girls.

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>>1999352
Ix and the witch don't count?

>>1999313
>The vivid girls are gayer than nanofate
Isn't that just a difference in the sleazyness of the artbooks/artbook author?

http://aritedrop.blogspot.fi/2016/03/nanoha-innocents-chapter-6.html

Innocents Chapter Six

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>>2002350

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Raaaaaainboooooowwwwwssss

And more Anthology:
http://vividtranslations.com/2016/03/06/an-anthology-for-the-forgotten-fangirls-11/

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>>2002350
What scene is he talking about?

>>2004189
Probably the spread of the starlight breakers clashing.

>>2004189
Probably the arrival of ViviEin in Innocentverse

>>2004189
I think the adult versions.

>>2004258
>>2004294
>>2004547
This volume sounds really eventful

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>>2004921
Innocent doesn't raise a very high bar for "eventfullness", after all.

http://vividtranslations.com/2016/03/11/upcoming-side-project-announcement/
Looks like they will be doing the Original Chronicle manga.

>>2006349
I can't say I'm hyped for it, another retelling of the same content once again, if anything I would prefer them doing more Vivid Life shorts or stuff from other anthologies, or at least translate Syu or MemiMeki Nanoha doujins since NanoFate is dead group, but maybe that's too yuri for their taste.

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>>2006349
Great! more manga they won't translate!

>>2006377
I'd be even more disappointed if they did Vivid Life since all of the good chapters have already been done. I think Original Chronicle is the only official series with no translations at all so the choice makes sense.

>>2006349
Why are they even bothering to translate this manga when they're so behind with Vivid? It's not like anyone was interested in reading Original Chronicle.

>>2006377
> or at least translate Syu or MemiMeki Nanoha doujins since NanoFate is dead group, but maybe that's too yuri for their taste.
Yeah, the NanoFate translation group is dead, and Vivid Translations have worked on a couple of /u/ Nanoha related things in the past, but starting last year they seem to be focusing more on official manga, outside that one anthology.

>>2006377
There are a bunch of Kohagura and Ameiro Nanoha doujins that need translation too.

>>2006465
I'm more interested in that than Vivid.

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Vivid Life is over?
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4409084539

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>>2008390
I am more curious about what is happening in Vivid

>>2008426
>no more Innocent
>no more Vivid Life
Nanoha is dead.

>>2008426

Probably just more training or mock battles, since that's all Vivid is capable of. Besides fanservice, of course!

>>2008430
If tournament and sol shit is all that's left for Nanoha then it is probably best if the series are laid to rest. In its current state it is a complete disgrace.

I just finished reading
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5807193/1/AlternativeS
gurl, it was good although I think that the ending was a little bit rushed, I've been reading Satashi's fics and they're interesting, it's a shame that some of his doujins are unfinished

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>>2008496
Indeed, time to bring back Force hopefully they'll improve it somewhat.

>>2008509
I think the last few chapters were needlessly dramatic, but it was fun.

>>2008523
Focusing less on the shit male protag, and more on the amoral terrorist mercenaries and the regular cast would be a good start.

>>2008566
They would have to redo almost all the new characters and rework the plot to have something half decent.

Instead of rebooting a bad and unsuccessful manga they may as well start a new one, which is what they did 3 times already after canning Force, and will probably keep doing for as long as Nanoha keeps selling.

>>2008566
Force had bigger problems than that guy

I never understood why people think force can be fixed. There is no way to improve it without completely changing everything about it. The artwork, the characters, the story, the themes, the tone, everything about it is shit.

>>2008523
Let's just burn it to the ground and start over. Literally no one would complain if they just pretended Force never happened.

Fuck it, do it Poochie-style and say everybody nobody cared about it died suddenly and I'll import a volume for everybody in this thread.

>>2008573
>>2008574
I'm one of the few that actually like the Huckbein and would be sad to see them go. With a little work and fleshing out they could've been like the Star Wolf of the series.

As for everyone else? Yeah, they all suck. The Grendels, Vandein, Lily, Thoma and Iris? I couldn't care less about them.

>>2008577
Can we do the same to most of the StrikerS characters?

>>2008577
>Let's just burn it to the ground and start over.
That's what the movies should have been for the whole franchise. I always thought they should abandon the TV/manga continuity, which is bloated and directionless and hard to care about anymore, and focus on the movies as the main thing instead. The first two did the job of covering the essentials, so with the third one they could finally do something new and interesting and more focused to avoid the mess that the franchise became after A's. But then they went and made a Vivid anime for some reason, like they think it's good or something. And who knows if we're ever even getting another movie now.

>>2008590
>Star Wolf

Couldn't they just have incorporated the Materials for that? Tested with general approval. Not forced like half the cast who they had to hamhandedly associate with the established cast.

>>2008611
Fuck the Materials. Anything's better than those half-assed Deviantart OC recolours.

>>2008612
You clicked /u/ by mistake again, /v/. Buzzwords don't count as arguments here.

>Nanoha birthday
>No announcement, no official picture what so ever
Tsuzuki confirmed for fucktard

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>>2008615
While he has buzzwords and overstates things, there is a grain of truth. Thea re pallete swaps with fanfiction-style development.

I'm not ragingingly against them like that anon, but bringing them to the real continuity would be a mistake.

>>2008591
No.

>>2008610
Big No! Movie (mainly 2nd, but 1st isn't flawless either) is too sterile.

I'm convinced that Nanoha is dead as a franchise. The creators have either forgotten or never actually knew what made it great to begin with and now there are plenty of better magical girl alternatives.

StrikerS was a mistake.

>>2008957
Troll.
StrikerS was the best part of the franchise.
However its clear now that the authors don't understand their own shows popularity.
And they definitely do not know how to create interesting bad guys to kill off.

>>2008959
>bad guys to kill off
No, we need bad guys to thin out most of the cast and welcome the OG team back in the spotlight.

>>2008961
>kill characters!
>>>/wherever edge peeps like this are bred/ please

>>2008959
StrikerS wasn't shit, but it was not the best. Jail was a terrible villain, he was boring as fuck and the Numbers weren't great either.

>>2008590
It would be a lot easier to make vivid good. We already have a stablished cast with some non shitty characters all connected with the old cast, an interesting setting with the belka backstory and good art. It only needs a plot

>>2009008
The plot should have been that this is how Vivio both started following in her mothers footsteps and met all the girls who would follow her and help her become Galactic Empress.
Force should of been the start of the fall of the TSAB government by uncovering another case of abuse of power by the mage oligarchy in charge.
No its not original but it IS what the public wanted. Vivio to become a magical girl version of Kaiser Reinhard from LOGS but with a ass kicking bodyguard/consort.

>>2008981
Jail was not the villain. He was an antagonist, but he was not the true evil, just a chaotic neutral character. The brains in jars and General whatshisname were the true evil.

>>2009008
Yes, I quite like the Ancient Belka thing, and the characters are decent. The writters just failed to do anything serious with them and sticked with the SoL thing. Bad choice, but it could be fixed whenever they wanted, just add some bad guy who needs Belka descendants for their evil plan.

>>2009017
>General whatshisname were the true evil
I don't think that really matches, not with Jail being considered less evil at least.

Don't forget he was not crazy to not be aware of destruciton and suffering his plan would lead to. And he knew what is Quatro like and didn't have problem with it. He brought the cyborgs to not have qualms about killing cops. Et cetera. Of course, anime and manga tends to be extremely flexible with showing evil behaviour and then forgetting it and considering the characters kinda good, but still.

>>2009020
Or just add some stakes to the fights
Even if they were mock battles the fights where Vivio and Corona risked themselves to kick Einhart's ass were quite intense

>>2008959
>Things I don't agree with are trolls!

StrikerS was generally weak, and it started the persistent problems of cast / plot-point bloat over continued development of things the audience already care about, and of spoiling one element of the series' synergy by going all-in on another - in this case sci-fi military over magical girls.

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>>2008981
Not that anon, but it was by far the best part of the franchise and the first time the series actually became interesting. Too bad they squandered it afterwards.

Doesn't mean disliking StrikerS makes one a troll, but large parts of the franchise prefer it for a reason.

That said, scifi magical military with an original setting and proper yuri would be fucking aweso-
Oh Horizon. Season 3 of that, please.

>>2008981
I think Jail's plan was great, down to his insane Tleilaxu-style escape plan. But the whole 'cackling mad scientist' made it hard to take seriously. If he was a more somber character who we were introduced to early and turned out to secretly be the mastermind behind the attacks by the Numbers it would have been much better.

Plus they shouldn't have gone with such a bloated cast or wasted so much time on the training arc, but we've been over all that.

>>2009178
>Doesn't mean disliking StrikerS makes one a troll
No, but calling it ''improper yuri'' does.

>>2009178
StrikerS had a good concept and some parts of it worked really well, but it already suffered from a bloated cast (fucking 12 evil cyborgs!), tons of filler and a complete failure to do anything interesting with Nanoha and Fate's relationship.

>>2009224
It is improper yuri, though.

>>2009247
Thanks for proving my point.

>>2009247
What does "improper yuri" even mean?

>>2009017
"General whatshisname" is an analogy to Yagami Hayate, and Hayate paid him proper respect after his demise.

>>2009247
Go troll elsewhere.

StrikerS is a lot of interesting ideas ruined by some of the worst execution in anime. It was a complete blunder. Why not have Nanoha and Fate as the main characters rather than part of a boring ensemble? Why waste time on shit like Erio and Caro or the boring villains? Why did Elements Garden completely phone in the soundtrack? Who in the fuck decided tripling the size of the cast was a good idea? It's like they had no idea what to do with double the episode count of the previous shows.

It had the potential to make Nanoha THE magical girl franchise and instead it managed to start the beginning of the end. Even if I didn't struggle to watch it with how boring it was I would be disappointed in StrikerS for that fact alone.

Nuke the whole fucking thing. Start going again with movie three being about the girls in high school and restart from a place where everything can be done right.

It's probably too late though and Nanoha is a corpse held up by middling manga series and fans like me who just won't let it go. Nanoha and Fate mean a lot to me and I just want them to flourish.

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>>2009310
>Nanoha and Fate mean a lot to me and I just want them to flourish.
Me too, anon.

I wish we had more reasons to be optimistic so that people might have something better to do than argue about opinions.

>>2009310
So bascially Nanoha is Magical Girl Bleach?

>>2009363
No way, Bleach is pure crap, StrikerS is merely disliked by some. I'm counting myself out of those.

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What would happen if a device is hit with such force during combat that the main body/core is completely destroyed and falls apart? Will the device be Fubar? Or is it always going to be mendable?

I don't think Tsuzuki have experienced with the thought of the characters losing their devices.

>>2009734
Graf Eisen got shattered in strikers and it got better

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>>2009734
There is no reason why they should be indestructible, it is just that the story writers didn't need that yet.
Actually, pic related was damaged beyond repair and had to die sob.

>>2009759
But she was rebuild from the leftovers, alongside all the staffs Hayate broke
In a way you could said Eins was repaired

>>2009763
Not really, there is a reason little boss desu is called Mk. II. She's more like a clone or rather child knockoff. Yet to become a boob monster that Hayate could grope.

>>2009763
>>2009782
Its more complicated than that.
Because Hayate did not know how to put up mental barriers to protect her privacy (and santy) at age 9, she and Rein achieved 100percent unison, When they separated again, after Hayate fainted from exhaustion, the result was that Hayate's linker core was left with a perminant "disk image" of Reinforce's memories, but not (fortunately) her OS.
When Hayate was fully healed, around age 12, she went to the Belkan church where they were able to find the instructions on how to make a unison device. Hayate then had her linker core split and half was used to make Rein Zewi.
Because she was still a child, Hayate's linker core regenerated.

The result is that when Zewi and Hayate unison they are something like 150% more powerful than Hayate is alone and she is considered the most powerful (in raw power, Nanoha and Fate have more useable power) mage living because of this.

In the few minutes she and Rein Ein were unisoned fighting the out of control book, Hayate may have been the most powerful mage that ever lived.

>>2009363
A's is like Seed, and StrikerS is like Seed Destiny.
SS is very polarizing.

>>2009791
Also helps to have a book that's a collection of all the OP magics in existence.

>>2010141

Except A's is the peak of the franchise, not a low.

>>2010141
A's is like Zeta, actually. Strikers is more like F91 lots of wasted potential.

>>2010245
>Strikers is more like F91 lots of wasted potential.
That's kind of funny, F91 was the name the ferret-troll used to go by. Now he goes by Setsuna F or whatever, but he has calmed down.

>>2009755
Bardiche also had his moments of getting shat on, yet he managed to recover almost instantly.

>>2010262
Because his core never got heavily damaged

>>2010260
I have no idea what are you talking about but just in case: I meant F91 as in Gundam F91, a movie that was slapped together. It was conceived as a 50 episodes series but then they took some of the planned episodes and stitched it together as the movie we got. Wasted potencial as its best.

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>>2010349
Yeah, I know about that series.

>I have no idea what are you talking about
That's good, the less people that remember about him, the better.

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>>2010278
That's not true, Precia wrecked him good.

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>>2010355
Rewatching this scene made me realize Fate's first kiss went to Bardiche. I wonder why they left that out in the movies.

>>2010357

She may not have kissed it in the movies, but she did hug it if I recall.

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source?

>>2010462
That's a fake translation. You can see the real one at danbooru.donmai.us/posts/343983 .

The original source seems to have been lost in time. I imagine it's just a solo picture and not part of doujin, though.

>>2010462
>>2010714
It was named "NanoFate_Comics_020.jpg"
When I googled it,
https://torrentz.eu/b6ea6cf1dd19a9c12e8cb5eee4f52a8d8e41665e
this came up, but the torrent is dead.

>>2010355
So did Nanoha and Signum but Fate mentions that the important parts weren't damaged
If anything the city fight damaged Bardiche more than Presea did

>>2010368
I wouldn't call that a hug, it was more like she cried in his shoulder

>>2010866
You can download that pack from nanofate.us, download section. That image is one of the translated one page manga in the unsorted folder.

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>>2010866
>danbooru.donmai.us/posts/343983
Fake but great. I don't keep much of such images, but I have downloaded that one to HDD longe before watching Nanoha or knowing anything about it.

Basically, when going into the series, my knowledge was that page and some mention that They sleep in one bed and adopt a kid.

>>2010923
I see.
>>2010924
yuri adopts are great

>>2010462
Movie 3rd Impregnation.

>>2010938
>are
There are more couples that adopted?

>>2010357
>those visuals
It's a pity people skip S1 because of silly looking tree or >too long

>>2010979
>implying the treegina is not the coolest monster in the show

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>>2010979
True. Secondaries the lot of them.

>>2010979
Do they skip S1 for being long, but watch strikers?

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>>2011011
StrikerS is lucky to not have a movie, you would see then. I bet they would drop stuff like Rein's carry bag, Vivio falling, Zafira towel-standing and other fun details.

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>>2010979
There were a lot of weird, experimental things in S1. This shot for example looks like it was made by an entirely different studio.

Although I agree, once S1 stops pissing itself and they figure out what to do with this show it gets really good.

SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAFT
oh wait

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>>2011014
That looks terribly claustrophobic. She has no room to stretch her legs on that bed, or stand up at all.

>>2011016
I remember a time when Fate/Arf seemed to be the most viable ship.

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>>2011044

>>2011067
>It sucks how all it takes a single scumbag to completely ruin a thread. [sic]

Hey, he wasn't even suggesting that particular ship is a thing now or that he wanted it. I just then posted that other picture for the nudity in it because why not, this is a porn posting board amongst other things. Seriously.

He just recollected, presumably to the times when it was airing and NanoFate was not yet on the radar. Naturally almost everybody ships Feito with Nanyuha after that, but back when episode 5-7 was the latest stuff? It wasn't just "crack pairing" a the point, so don't be ridiculous please.

>>2011067
You again? Can't you just not go to /u/, since it's clearly not for you?

>>2011044
I shipped Arf/Fate at first, but then Nanofate happened. But even if Arf is not very relevant yuri-wise, she deserves more screentime. How many cute girls who turn into badass wolves do you see around? I love cute girls and I love wolves, so she is just perfect.

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>>2011183
And she was a babe too. Shame that figure got lolified.

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Also a lost opportunity that she didn't end up as NanoFate's butler/landlady/nanny for Vivio. She probably got used to Chrono's brats by that time.

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>>2011198
That could have worked perfectly, but Tsuzuki probably thought Arf or any other character would interfere in the family dynamic he had planned for the Takamachi family.

>>2011200
Tsuzuki probably thought that nobody would want to see a cute wolfgirl run around.
Another sage decision from the man himself.

>>2011018

Some of the S1 scenes made Fate look so sinister, yet she was still just a gentle tragic loli at heart.

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>>2011213
Imagine you are a little girl and Arf is picking you up from kindergarten/school. Well, Vivio can have Fate coming, too.

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The furry familiars were a nice aspect, too bad there's not much of that since As.

>>2011240
Linith was an angel ;_; May her soul rest in peace

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>>2011235
>Fate
>picking up Vivio from school
That would require her to act like a responsible parent

>>2011251
All those mommy issues and she turned out to be an absent parent. Way to go.

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>>2011251
She's a pampering parent when she is at home, I'm sure she gives Vivio lifts in her sports car when she has the time.

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>>2011267
How is that responsible?

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>>2008612
>half-assed Deviantart OC recolours
Fuck yourself.

>>2011274
That's literally what they are though. No different from those shitty Sonic OC's created by middle-schoolers.

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>>2011287
The Materials are amazing.
https://youtu.be/1v965AL0XAE?t=11m21s

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>>2011298
Alicia sure gets better with each copy

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>aho inu
kek
>>2011302
GoD, Innocent or something else I don't care, they should animate Levi.

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>>2011305
The world is not ready for the slasher

>>2011272

How is it not?

Fate is perfect mama, but she has a career, it can't be helped. I'm not sure if talking about Erio here is a taboo or not...but she turned him into a decent, functioning human being, and she didn't even need to blow him up first. That's a first, in the Nanohaverse.

>>2011325
>she turned him into a decent, functioning human being
Maybe that means she's a better sister than mother/father.

>>2011326

What makes that more like a sister figure, than a mother/father one?

>>2011328
Erio got adopted into the Harlaown family by Lindy before Strikers, she was kind of a motherly sister to Erio when they spent more time together during StrikerS.

>>2011331

I guess, but I'm not sure I see the difference. Fate was just too young to be their legal mother at the time.

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>>2011323
spoiling her kid to compensate how little she is with her is not what a responsible mom does

>>2011325
Thats hardly Fate's achievement, she was even worse as a mother back then. Even she admits that she was not the best mom for them.
She is very kind and a sweetheart but the way she raised Erio and Caro is only good if you compare it with the kind of life they would have if they were raised by the bureau.

>>2011328
Erio's feelings. He says in strikers that he sees her as a big sister when Tea asks him if he is jealous of Vivio

>>2011336
That was most certainly Fates achievement. You haven't read the StrikerS comics, I take it?

Also Erio probably thinks of her as a big sister because the age gap isn't that large, certainly not large enough to where Fate could be his real mother.

>>2011338

Same poster.

Also, remember when Fate first met Vivio? Nanoha had no clue how to get Vivio to stop crying, but Fate knew exactly what to do. Besides the fact that she is absent due to her career path, I have no clue what would classify her as a bad parent.

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>>2011340
>Besides the fact that she is absent due to her career path, I have no clue what would classify her as a bad parent.
Isn't it obvious? She is a bad parent because she hasn't given her daughter a little sister yet.

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>>2011338
>>2011340
First let me point out that I am not saying that she is a bad character or a bad person, I am just saying she is not a good mother.
Her intentions adopting them were good and her heart was in the right place, thats undeniable, but her actions were not always on par with her intentions. The manga, anime and sound stages points out that even Fate herself considers that she did not enough for them and what she did was not always the best. A good example of this is keeping them on different planets. They only met because they joined the TSAB, despite Fate's concerns.
She wanted them to met and get along but did nothing to make it happen. Besides, if you consider that the reason they joined was to spend more time with her and that Erio and Caro have been together since then it becomes pretty obvious that they were craving for family love.
Yes, Fate had more experience as a mother when she first met Vivio but Nanoha learned quick. By the time of vivid Nanoha became a much better mom to Vivio than Fate is for any of her kids. Being a workaholic doesn't make her a bad parent, everyone in this franchise is one, her problem is the same her mother had, her inability to find the time to be with them and give them all the love she has to give, what leads to her unintentionally neglecting them. Erio, Caro and Vivio are good kids and are mature enough to understand her but that doesn't change the fact that she could have been a better mother.
At least she hasn't whipped anyone yet

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>>2011348
>At least she hasn't whipped anyone yet
You don't know in what kind of kinky stuff Fate and Nanoha are.

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>>2011348

Caro and Erio are two unrelated characters, it's not like they were long lost siblings. Everything you said revolves around her not having time to be a parent, not that she is a bad parent. Whenever she has the time, she passes the parent role with flying colors. But the fact remains that if Fate ever settles down, and had kids of her own, she would make a great parent. And she would even do that if it was ever truly needed. But Vivio has Nanoha and Caro/Erio have people of their own to care for them.

>>2011358
>But the fact remains that if Fate ever settles down, and had kids of her own, she would make a great parent.
She's settled down with Nanoha and Vivio now. She's most of the time away but still she's no different than the average Japanese father that is most of the time at work.

>>2011360

By settled down, I mean retire or have a normal job that allows her to have time to actually play the mother role.

>>2011358
They are siblings, thats related enough for me
The fact that she doesn't find the time and puts work above her kids makes her a bad parent, as I said everybody is a workaholic yet they don't neglect their families.
>But the fact remains that if Fate ever settles down, and had kids of her own, she would make a great parent
The fuck does that even mean?

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>>2011363
Sure

>>2011363
Maybe if someday she gets badly injured while fighting, but I don't see it happening, unless she takes an attack protecting Nanoha or something like that.

>>2011365

That would require one of her children being killed first...And I think Fate is too strong to turn to that anyways.

>>2011325
Erio has barely anything going for him in the first place. You would need to make a concentrated effort to mess that up.

>>2011364
I guess that makes them the kind of siblings that have the hots for eachother then.

It means you're confusing lack of time to bad parenting. Fate doesn't need to be a parent because they already have people to care for them. But if she ever exclusively raised children of her own, they would turn into upstanding citizens, because she would make a great parent. The way Erio and Caro talk about Fate is proof enough of that. To me, a good parent knows exactly what their child needs when they need it, and I don't believe Fate would ever have an issue with that. She just doesn't legally have any children of her own.

>>2011368

"The person known Erio is, in fact, a product of Project Fate, an Artificial Mage created to replace the original Erio Mondial, a son of a wealthy Midchildan family who died in his infancy some time before 0069. When Erio was four years old, he discovered the truth about his nature by accident and, abandoned by his parents, was taken to an illegal research facility, where constant experimentation almost destroyed his mind and body."

This is barely anything going for him? Sounds more like it would take a saint to rehabilitate someone like him.

>>2011369
>She just doesn't legally have any children of her own.
What you mean by that? Biological child? Because she's legally (and in practice) Vivio's mother.

>>2011373

I get that Nanoha and Fate are in a relationship, and that Vivio is legally Nanoha's daughter, but I don't recall Nanoha and Fate being legally married.

>>2011369
>Fate doesn't need to be a parent because they already have people to care for them
Thats a really shitty argument. Just because they have good friends and coworkers she doesn't need to be a parent, what kind of logic is that?
So, you are saying that she would be a great single mother for a loner. In any other scenario she doesn't even need to try?
Leaving your children alone is not the same as giving them space and as I said before she is not giving them all they need

>>2011374
Both Nanoha and Fate became Vivio's guardians after StrikerS, originally only Nanoha figured as her legal guardians. And yes, that was the way to told us they got married after hinting it for a some time.

>>2011377
>she would be a great single mother for a loner. In any other scenario she doesn't even need to try?
>Leaving your children alone is not the same as giving them space and as I said before she is not giving them all they need

I'm saying that Erio and Caro and Vivio all turned into great people, so you can't dock points on Fate for not always being around for them...because she wasn't needed. Fate nurtures those that need it.

>>2011377
Erio has Lindy at least I guess? And who knows what happened with Caro's real parents, maybe they're taking a vacation with Einhart's.

>>2011374
Oh, its you
Anyway, Erio, Caro and Vivio are Fate's responsibility. Trying to find legal loopholes is what a bad parent would do

>>2011384

Are the dozens of other kids Fate rescued, also her responsibility? Is she supposed to quit her job because she did the right thing? She got them out of harm, and put them the direction of recovery. Fate became Erio and Caros guardian to get them out of the shithole they were in, not so she could settle down.

>>2011384
>Vivio are Fate's responsibility.
That doesn't mean that she needs to stay home every day when she's too busy saving the galaxy.

Nanoha is the housewife that dedicates the most time to make sure their daughter grows up into a proper lady, Fate is the husband working away that tries to make up all the time she's out by pampering her family. This doesn't make her a bad parent, just a busy one that gave part of her responsibilities to her wife.

>>2011348
Fate isn't a workoholic, she probably thinks that doing that job is her duty or that she even still owes that as a debt. That's very different than simply developping a dependency on the job.

Part of that problem with Erio and Caro being half-adopted but not really cared for much is due to the way the screenplay was written. It was a bit unfortunate decision from the writer and he probably didn't intend for that to put Fate in a bad light, which it did.
Fate fearing she didn't do a good job is probably really a direct assesment of facts, with her personality she would be like that even if everything was perfect and she spent 24/7 with the kids.

>>2011377
Well, look at it this way: the twoi kids were fully abandoned. She probably knew she can't be a full family/mother for them, but when nobody took up the burden, she probably though that having her as that "guardian" person ocassinally was still better than that?

She knew she can't act as a normal parent for them, but the question for those kinds was "at least something" versus "just institutional care".

Besides I still thing these happenings don't really reflect who those characters are like, be what story the author wanted. It is a bit forced. In reality (1) Fate would probably try to be with them more or Lindy would very likely step in to help too, so they would grow up much more normally. (2) There is no way Caro and Erio would grow up so exquisitelly and without issues on half on their own, in real world. It would leave scars, but this is the fluffy Nanoha universe luckily.

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>>2011383
Caro was ostracised by her whole tribe (StrikerS say people feared her power). If her parents were still alive, I'm afraid they just disowned her.

Eh, I fucked up writing this, what I meant was

>>2011572
Fate fearing she didn't do a good job is probably really NOT a direct assesment of facts. With her personality she would be like that even if everything was perfect and she spent 24/7 with the kids. It's that inferiority complex all over again.

>>1993836
>It is mentioned that mid and japanese sound similar
I thought Mid was supposed to sound like English, which is why Raising Heart, Bardiche and all the other Midchildan devices speak it.

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>>2011597
>consistency in Nanoha
It would be nice to have it, but we have to close an eye every now and then.

>>1972856
>but chances for that are smaller than us getting Movie 3rd
What is 7arcs even doing in 2016? Just more Dog Days and Trinity Seven? Did we even get anything Nanoha related during Nanoha's birthday?

>>2011662
>Did we even get anything Nanoha related during Nanoha's birthday?
Other years they have made announcements during this date, but their silence this year and during the last couple of months just serves as evidence for them not working on any new manga at the moment, and for the definitive cancellation of Force (if it wasn't still clear for someone), and canning of the third movie.