No Gelphie thread? That's rare. Technically this is an

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Good to see /u/ hasn't forgotten this lovely pairing.

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>>1487666

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Ozma and Dorothy are pretty shippable

>>1487681
>Ozma and Elphaba's granddaughter fucked in the last Wicked book
>no one remembers because no one read past the first one, if they read it at all instead of just seeing the musical and calling it a day
thanks internet

>>1487719
I tried but realized I didn't really give a damn about Elphaba's son.

>>1487729
Liir's reason for existing is to get raped by a quadling so their daughter could exist. That's it. He tries to be important in his book, then at the end realizes this is it, his baby batter was all that was ever needed, once his baby's guaranteed to survive he could fuck off and die and it wouldn't matter much.

His book really is just the setup for the last two, which are considerably more interesting.

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>>1487767
so you're saying I should just wiki it and then proceed to rest? I remember trying to get into but really couldn't seeing there was no gelphie

Are there any more nice, heartwarming fics of Wicked?

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>>1487813
a non-angsty one I've enjoyed is https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7241564/1/The-Thrill-Basis-Determined

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>>1487719

I own all the books. I've never been able to read the second. I just don't give a shit about Elphaba's son

Any good ol' fashioned rough smutt fic?

>>1487719
What was the last one? Last one I read was Lion Among Men.

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>>1501751

Out of Oz

I started reading Son of a Witch because of this thread. I feel vaguely bad for being this glad about Glinda's inability move on from her old university crush.

>>1512773
Know that feeling. It sucks for her, but her completely losing it when she saw Liir's/Elphaba's broom was pretty satisfying to me. I'm thinking of rereading Out of Oz.

>>1512773
Of course Glinda wouldn't move on, even if Elphaba HADN'T just abandoned her to deal with Morrible's bullshit all alone, their last conversation was an argument over some stupid little thing Glinda did that ultimately led to Elphaba's death. Elphaba was the only thing that ever really happened in her entire life, and even in death, Elphaba had a huge influence on her future.

Just wait until Out of Oz, though. It might make you feel a little better about things, or it'll just make you feel like shit. It's hard to tell, everyone seems to have a different reaction.

>>1487825
I spent the past couple hours reading through that. It was absolutely adorable, thank you for the req.

>>1487013
Oz/Wicked Gen you say?

I had all the Baum books when I was a kid. One of my first ships was Ozma/Dorothy.

Ozma was also one of my first experiences with trans stuff, kind of. I identified with her a lot.

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>>1548291

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Fic related: http://archiveofourown.org/works/1607096

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>>1550286

>>1550240

I like Glinda's little shit-eating smirk

>>1558792

>they'll never animate Wicked

._.

>>1560041
Sadly. Though there are a few animated sequences around the web that fans have done.
I've been keeping an eye on this person who is drawing and animating some Defying Gravity boards. Says it'll be done by the end of the month.
thirdchildart.tumblr.com
Keeping my fingers crossed.

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>>1555469

>>1550218
Thanks for that

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>>1575455

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I see no reason to let this die just yet.

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>>1596600

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>>1596609
Whoops, dupe of >>1487808. Sorry about that.

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>why didn't she just remove the sign tho

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>>1550240
In the same vein...

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>love is over

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And I'm done for now. Keep it green.

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When the movie comes out eventually I expect more fanart.

>>1596616
Because this way people know that Elphie is under her protection.

I don't know why, but for some reason Gelphie hits all the same buttons for me as Elsanna. Just me, or can anyone else see it?

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>>1597255
No, it's definitely not just you.

>>1597255
Except it's waaaaaaaaaaaay better.

>>1597255

Because Frozen rips off Wicked and the same actress is in both?

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Dorothy and Ozma is my OTP... but Ozma and Rain in the wicked years is pretty good too.

Just be aware when Rain and Ozma sleep together she's still in her Tip/"Boy" form. Though Rain said she kinda always knew Ozma was a girl, she has a hard time figuring out where things go and the end is of course, ambiguous. Doesn't bother me cause I'm trans myself... but it might disapoint some. There is more on the Glinda/Elphaba angle in the last book too. I don't like Lion Among Men, but I did like Out of Oz.

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yayy I beat story mode on the wicked facebook game, now I never have to play it again.

>tfw you've read more than a few Chenzel fics
>and liked it

God, I'm awful

>>1616306
You should link some of the better ones so we can properly condemn you.

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I wish Throppcest was more common

>>1618612
You know, I think it's kind of funny that I've never once even remotely considered this pairing.
Though I suppose now that you mention it, probably every combination of coupling for every character exists somewhere, I've just never come across it.

>>1618673

Reading too many family fluff fanfics makes me want incestuous fanfics. Alas I haven't found any

>>1618612

>no tsun tsun Nessa
>no Nessa having a giant spiritual freakout over her homosexual *and* incestuous feelings

If I could write Wicked well I'd do shit myself

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Just saw the musical for the first time. Haven't read any of the books yet.

I'm told the ending of Out of Oz might make it worth it?

>>1627907
Not if you're going it for pure lesbian content. Gelphie is in the books but it's always subtextual. The ending confirms Elphie's significance to Glinda, but anything beyond that is Word of God from a couple interviews with Maguire. If you like the first book in the series, Out of Oz is definitely worth it for the tie ins with the original. You just have to stomach Liir in the meantime to get there.

I'd definitely recommend at least trying the first book, though. It's good on its own merits.

>>1627907

The books are great except for the second one

>>1660861
Glinda's curls look so adorable.

>>1487719
I got up to book 2, then waited so long to get the third that I ended up forgetting everything that happened in the previous two books and I really don't want to have to go and re-read them.

But you are making a very compelling argument to just keep going, anon.

>>1550218
Galinda looks so manly in that pic. I thought Elphaba was supposed to be the manly one. Galinda here looks like Fabio Lione.

>>1702582
She's trans in that fic, probably why.

http://thirdchildart.tumblr.com/post/114627226159/you-cant-bring-me-down-hah-you-guys-i-finally

>>1721081
> Glinda gets on the broom for all of 5 seconds

Gelphie is suffering.

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>>1721081
Finally the wait is over.

>Glinda running up the tower at the end to call to Elphaba before she's gone
>dat Glinda face
>dat shot being squarely focused on Glinda as they sing "look at her, she's wicked"
>dat reaching hand
>dat quick look back

I was not disappointed. I also like that she included the speaking bits. I think they add a lot to it.

I'm gonna start rereading the series book 1 to book 4. I have never actually read my copy of the second book but I heard it has a Gelphie implied moment in it. I know Glinda appears for like 1 page all depressed and older.

I hate the idea of a live action movie but I just want it already. Gimme my Gelphie on the big screen.

Wicked has ruined me because I ship Wicked Witch x Glinda in the MGM film now. Glinda hating the Witch and snding a little girl to kill her for her, but them having an interesting relationship in the past

>>1487666

I don't remember if Glinda has a canon eye color in Wicked but I wish they were brown

>>1790041
She appears at least twice, actually. The second book isn't bad at all. Liir is admittedly boring, but everything around him is interesting so it doesn't matter much.

Are these two canon? I've always ~known~ about Wicked but never checked it out for myself. If it's not queer baited I may read the book.

>>1866056
Book: They kiss, are important to each other for the entirety of both their lives, but formal relationship never confirmed and no sex on the page. The author's said that they were "in love" in an interview, but didn't say anything past that.

Musical: Not canon at all, though the woman writing the script pushed for it. The head honcho wanted to market the play to teenage girls and their soccer moms but the idea of lesbianism was too risque at the time. There's a queer bait song that's pretty good.

>>1874684
>queerbait song

Are we talking about 'What Is This Feeling?' or 'Popular'?

>>1874769
"What is this Feeling"

>>1874769
>>1875063
I meant "What is This Feeling," but I could see "Popular" being played really gay too. You could easily have Elphaba run out at the last second because Glinda got too close and a little turned on by how she looked and it gave Elphaba ~feelings~.

It's also worth noting that in the musical, Glinda and Elphaba have a sort of typical romantic couple arc—they hate each other, get to know each other, care about each other deeply, sing a song at the very end of the play affirming the depth of their feelings. The actress who played Glinda has gone as far as to call they play "a love story between two women." The writers of the play go out of their way to go nO hOMo though with the addition of a hetero love triangle and a rich prettyboy character for both of them to lust over. (Fucking Fiyero. I'm still pissed about that, his character arc makes no sense and it makes even less sense for Elphaba to like him.)

There's been a few productions where they kiss during their last duet together but I'm under the impression that that's always something the actresses sort of sneak in when the mods are sleeping rather than something intended in the typical production.

>>1798931
Besides his daughter is the person that sleeps with Ozma (well abeit Ozma being male during that time but it doesn't change their feelings after she becomes a girl again)

>>1610490
>Dorothy and Ozma
Was tah tstuff in the book, or was it because of the old Oz anime?

>>1875402
Ozma laughed at the wistful expression in the girl's eyes, and then she drew Dorothy to her and kissed her.
"Am I not your friend and playmate?" she asked.
Dorothy flushed.
"You know how dearly I love you, Ozma!" she cried. "But you're so busy ruling all this Land of Oz that we can't always be together."

>>1875415
Man, children's books were way better back in the day!

>>1875174
Agreed. It seems like something the actresses would do if they are up for it, rather then have the writers actually intend a lesbian relationship between the two.

If you pay attention to a lot of their duets, there's a lot of queer bait. It seems like the source material was obviously paring the two up, but then the musical writers threw in Fiyero just to say "Gay girls? Nah man. No homo."

Also, I'm thinking of picking up the books. What am I in for?

>>1876914
>It seems like the source material was obviously paring the two up, but then the musical writers threw in Fiyero just to say "Gay girls? Nah man. No homo."
Well, not really. In the novel Glinda and Elphaba are friends with sexual tension for a while, but the one Elphaba actually has a life-altering romance with is Fiyero. You could easily make the argument that Elphaba/Glinda is stronger in the musical.

>What am I in for?
Candy-colored grimdark and everyone being gay. They're good, though.

>>1876914
Lesbian content in the first book is limited to what >>1874684 said. Typical subtext. The book itself is telling the story of the ostracized, misunderstood Witch so it hits a lot of typical queer notes despite the character not actually being strictly gay. There are gay background characters, the author is gay, everyone is at least bisexual in general.

The writing style is very descriptive, meandering plots, obtuse symbolism. Character emotions are rarely described directly and instead implied through their dialogue and actions. I'm rereading it now. Grimdark and edgy content, lots of sex. I love it, one of my favorite novels, but it's not for everyone.

>>1876941
>>1877375
Thanks sisters.

Will definetly give the books a shot.

This thread is older than some children.

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>>1893129
Welcome to /u/. I made the Wicked/Gelphie general directly before this one, and that was in 2010. Really slow board.

>>1893129
Well, every thread is older than some children.

>>1893129
this thread is older than ur mom last night

Fanfics pls?

>>1923308
Ooh boy. I'd ask you what genres/universes you want but it's been a month since you asked so I'll just assume you're not regularly checking and list it all.

Here are my favorites. I've been slowly collecting them since 2010. All bookverse, weirdly. someone save me from this hell

Fluff:
"A Night's Entertainment" by The Noble Arduenna. This author is legendary, all her stuff is great. This is a meta commentary on the musical vs the novel.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5254597/1/A-Night-s-Entertainment
"The Thrill, Basis Determined" by RidiculousMavis. The fluffy college adventures we wanted. AU where there is no Emerald City trip. It is the. Best. Fluff.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7241564/1/The-Thrill-Basis-Determined
"The Way Out of Myself." Gelphie and Avaric swap bodies.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9287577/1/The-Way-Out-of-Myself
"The Week of Ill Repute" by Chudley Channing. Another great road-to-ec fic.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2082832/1/The-Week-of-Ill-Repute


(part 1....)

>>1923308
>>1934672
cont.

Adventure/Plot driven/Other (tends to neither be fluff or angst):
"The Variables in Our Equation" by Ridiculous Mavis. This is probably my favorite Wicked fic, period. Glinda uses the help of Mother Yackle to try and change the past and save her and Elphie's future.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11166871/1/The-Variables-in-Our-Equation
"The Narrative Strain" by The Noble Arduenna. Plot defies description, check it.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5330421/1/The-Narrative-Strain
"The Brave and the Vulnerable" by Ridiculous Mavis. There are a lot of "Road to the Emerald City" fics and this is the best one imo. Bookverse.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7189568/1/The-Brave-and-the-Vulnerable
"Not Completely, All Together Here" by Good Afternoon. Very long, slow burn.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5581490/1/Not-Completely-Altogether-Here
"The Love Club" by IntergalacticKoala. Modern AU done right. Great look at how Oz would have progressed through the Industrial revolution to today. No real plot, but it's done well.
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/1661363/chapters/3524972


Angst:
"Abandoned" by Ridiculous Mavis. Examines Nessa's codependent relationship with Elphie in a roundabout way. Bookverse.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7450663/1/Abandoned
"If You Should See Her" by Ridiculous Mavis. Glinda and Elphaba run into each other after Glinda's last talk with Fiyero. Bookverse.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7525851/1/If-You-Should-See-Her
"Youth" by Navona, a good angsty road-to-ec fic.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5126547/1/Youth

I also have written some. I think they're good so I am linking them with this disclaimer. All bookverse still.
"Blended", another road-to-ec fic.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5369360/1/Blended
"Laudes", a tour through the Witch's fractured mental state.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9556968/1/Laudes
"Recessional", an angsty might-have-been.
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6074964/1/Recessional

>>1934675
tamer! You're still popping in here?
I really want to say thank you for helping to get me into Wicked as much as you did.

Thank you!

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>>1934720
Yeah, I'm here/on the ride forever probably. No problem! Glad I could show you something you ended up enjoying. Hope everything is going good for you anon. Stay comfy.

>>1934675
Thank you

Pretty sure I haven't seen this in here.

Also, bump.

>>1942286
she ate too much broccoli

>>1938648
Glinda's facial expression there is perfect.

>>1938648
That looks like futa.

>>1945566
Are you sure that's a female?

>>1958277
Elphaba's described as lanky and androgynous but ultimately female in the books, the picture is pretty on point.

>>1934675
I've read it a long time ago but I'll be forever awed and sad about The Narrative Strain. One of the most well written fic ever.

>>1958360
It was really well done. It's too bad that author's disappeared. It would be great to read anything by her, even if it was in a random other fandom.

>>1958360
But which one do I read to cheer to me up after? ;_;

>>1960644
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7241564/1/The-Thrill-Basis-Determined

There isn't much any Gelphie fluff out there so enjoy it while it lasts.

According to http://moviepilot.com/posts/3620369, "the musical itself is already a tame adaptation of the original book, which featured a fair bit of R rated content, as well as some distinctly non-platonic moments between Elphaba and Galinda."
What moments?

>>1985778
Elphaba kisses Glinda during the scene that corresponds to Defying Gravity.

>>1985778
>>1985852
These are pretty much the biggest instances of it in the original novel. It's very much subtextual, though it's more obvious in the last book in the series and confirmed by Maguire.

>Glinda swooned at the same moment. Elphaba thrust out strong arms and scooped Glinda in mid-collapse. Glinda didn't really lose consciousness, but the uncomfortable nearness of the hawk-faced Elphaba after that undesired act of desire made her want to shiver and revulsion and to purr at the same time.

>In a single lumpy bed, they huddled together for warmth and encouragement and, Glinda told herself, protection . . . Glinda would start as if from a frightful dream, and nestle in nearer to Elphaba, who seemed at night never to sleep.

>[Elphaba] put her face against Glinda’s and kissed her. “Hold out, if you can,” she murmured, and kissed her again. “Hold out my sweet.” … Glinda craned her head to see Elphaba drift back into the crowds … Elphaba hadn’t cried. Her head had turned away quickly, not to hide her tears but to soften the fact of their absence. But the sting, to Glinda, was real.

>The Witch alarmed [Glinda]. It was not just the novelty of seeing her again, but the strange charisma Elphaba possessed, which had always put Glinda in the shade. Also there was the thrill, basis indeterminable, which made Glinda shy and caused her to rush her words, and to speak in a false high voice like an adolescent...For when she chose to remember her youth at all, she could scarcely dredge up an ounce of recollection of that daring meeting with the Wizard. She could recall far more clearly how she and Elphie had shared a bed on the road to the Emerald City. How brave that had made her feel, and how vulnerable too.

>>1987373
>though it's more obvious in the last book
So, what exactly happens in the scene where Glinda and Elphaba are maybe reunited? Did Glinda die or did Elphie come back?

>>2002023
A long time ago I was talking with an anon who suggested that it was both--Elphaba's soul, existent after all, coming back to usher Glinda into some happy afterlife. It's a bit too feel good of a wrap for it to be something that Maguire honestly intended, but I've decided to beleive it anyway.

>>1642431
I like this artist but damn they give everyone big jaws

Oldest thread on /u/?

>>2006078
Oldest on 4chan, actually.

>>2010265
There's one on /i/ that's even older

>>2017597
Currently up? They beat our last 'attempt' by like two weeks or so.

>>2017601
Yeah, it's still up. All the way from 2012.

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I can't explain why but these two made me think "wow they really gay hate each other"

why hasnt any mischief.jpg ruined this yet?

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>>2037089
>gelphie_for_ants.jpg
Full size was posted >>1618612

Bumping so I can save stuff later

This thread is longer than the Soul Caliber thread, so I guess I should throw that away.

So it's coming to my city soon, should I invest 100 bucks to go watch it? I know the music is ok, but what about the /u/?

So this happened: https://youtu.be/TZ0pXUb5jVU

>>2054269
Well, I liked it a lot, but all you'll get on the yuri front is (great, probably intentional) subtext between two women who are in a love triangle over a guy.

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Universal announced a 2019 release date for the Wicked movie.
Now I'm both excited and worried.

Weekly bump

I've written MGM based Wicked Witch/Glinda stuff in the past but it's never been put online. It's embarrassing but, oh well, I have seen Glinda/Dorothy fics as well.

I really want a good movie adaptation of some Ozma related books but it's difficult: People like the MGM film too much so deviants, even true to the book ones, don't sell.

>>2075018

Ah, I remember when it had a 2011 release. Good times... I wish it was animated but Frozen killed that.

>tfw all Elsaba works are platonic

This thread is fucking old
happy 1000th day?

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>>2126599
Happy belated 1000th day /wkd/friends.

tfw you're still here

Have any adaptations done Ozma well? I know there's the live action film and a few animated adaptations.

>tfw Oz fanfics are surprisingly rare

It's a popular book series alas... Well, Ao3 has some good Dorothy/Ozma at least.

>>1487013

Fucking 2013 thread

I'm reading various random The Wizard Of Oz books in part because I want to get them off my book backlogs and in part because I like Dorothy/Ozma. I have only read the first two books though so Dorothy hasn't even met Ozma.

>>1875415

Ah, such a time when that somehow wasn't considered gay. It's a shame any adaptations would tone them down. I remember hearing Dorothy is gay in OUAT though.

>>1487719

I only own the first three books. I haven't even resd the second one. Elphaba's son is a bore

.>>2136643

I like how slow this board is.

>>2138143
It's worth skipping straight to Out of Oz, or at least skipping Son of a Witch. That novel is really insufferable.

>>2140600
On a scale of huge annoyance to 'please I'd rather cut off my hand' how bad is it?

>>2140600
I don't think Son of a Witch was that bad. Even if Liir is a uniquely unengaging main character, seeing what happens to Oz after the Wizard is interesting. Plus, the last book will make a lot more sense if you've read it.

Give me some gay quotes from the first book and convince me to start reading it.

>>2142883
Just "huge annoyance." I don't regret reading it, I just don't think it's necessary to read for the series as a whole. The main character is a shit and the pacing is awful.

>>2142893
Fair, point taken.

>>2143033
Gay quotes at >>1987373

Happy Birthday thread!

>>2152456
You're two months too early.

>>2152456
>>2152457
And now it won't survive. Thanks

;_;7

>>2152456
>>2152457
I hope you're happy now.
I hope you're happy how you hurt your cause forever.
I hope you think you're clever!

Goodbye oldest thread in the board ;_;7

It well may be
That we will never meet again
In this lifetime
So let me say before we part
So much of me
Is made of what I learned from you
You'll be with me
Like a handprint on my heart
And now whatever way our stories end
I know you have re-written mine
By being my friend...
Like a ship blown from its mooring
By a wind off the sea
Like a seed dropped by a skybird
In a distant wood
Who can say if I've been changed for the better?
But because I knew you
I have been changed for good

>>2152542
Don't do this to me, Anon

I was one of the first posters in this thread, it feels like I'm losing a child ;_;

Can't believe this thread is gonna be gone. It seemed immortal

>>2156787
Feels like a piece of history is about to slip off the board.

>this is the oldest thread on 4chan since the one on /i/ died
at least I think it's the oldest

>>2156883
Would've been a solid 3 years if it lasted til december

>watch 1920s Wizard of Oz film
>it's incomprehensible nonsense that's like only 25% related to the books where Dorothy is 18 and is the secret princess of Oz, or something
>she marries some prince at the end.

Ew.

That reminds me though, any adaptation of the books would probably censor Ozma and Dorothy. Girls platonically kissing was perfectly fine in the 1910s but isn't so fine in the 2010s. It's a shame.

>>2156869
>>2156787
I'm actually feeling really sad about this thread about to be kill. I've been posting in this off and on for years. Thank you to whatever other anon(s) were bumping the thread when it got to page 10, there were a couple times I totally missed it and it would have been kill. I know we can just make another one once this is kill but it's not the same.

;~;7

stay comfy friendos

I am a sentimental fag

Thread archive: https://mega.nz/#!61EiSC5K!zew8YwYCwH9Xvw6vv7KNDjpHvGoDzA8yD-iutOEy1Ig

>>2157697
thanks

>>2157676
Thanks to you then, friend.
As one of the other anons who would bump back from page 10 with whatever art I could, I must also say that I'm pretty sad to see it finally go. I remember one time the thread made it all the way to the very last spot on page 10 before I miraculously found a new picture to post.
I think I've had this thread open in a tab constantly for nearly its entire lifespan. It's the oldest thread on the whole site barring only some of the board stickies, so thank you to everyone who helped preserve it over the years.

>>2157697
That's cool of you, anon. I might compile the whole thing into an image as well just for old times' sake.

Goodbye, thread.

I created this thread years ago but only expected it to last 1 year tops. Gelphie threads were always slow bumpers after all. I have no clue how it lasted so long even on this board.

I don't feel like making a new Oz thread for a while. Let's wait a few months until we make a new one. This one was big enough.

Goodbye, thread.

f ;_;7

Never posted here, but rest in peace oldest thread ;_;