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Cooper Did Everything Wrong Edition

https://pastebin.com/mcKYsFib

Meanwhile: >>87332634
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>>87334315
1st for jumping man
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Any other ideas for scenes it could be put over?
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>>87334118
I wanted that too, but I wasn't dumb enough to think we were going to get it
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>Dougie's door isn't red in real life
reeeee
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>>87334349
Cherry pie.... : )
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>Dick Laurent is dead
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Lost Highway/Inland Empire Lynch is best Lynch. God tier finale.
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1991
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Tfw you realize Dale doomed the world
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>>87334315
>start entire series with some pure evil experiment in a box
>spend an entire episode on the origins of this entity (episode 8)
>never even mention it again or conclude it's story
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Well now, I'm not gonna talk about booty. In fact, none of us is gonna talk about booty.
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MILF LAURA AND TAMMY HAVE SEX NOW
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>>87334365
Hutch and Chantal being killed by Zawaski.
Richard Horne driving over that kid
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Is Mulholland Drive still canon?
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>>87334333
hello tripslo
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>>87334382
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>>87334315
Why does everyone think Cooper did something wrong? He saved Laura from Judy.
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post lewds of Chrysta Bell
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>>87334365
BANE?
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Just a reminder that there are no plans for Season 4 as of right now. This is the ending and if there is a follow up season, don't expect it to be any more conclusive.
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>>87334135
>durrr everything I don't like is frost

lol dude. Frost haters are so childish. Fanboyism at its worst. Frost wrote Briggs' vision for example, and I am willing to bet half of the memorable monologues in the Return, if not more, were Frost creations. Lynch and Frost ARE Twin Peaks, and you need both.
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How did Coop go from 430 to "Oh, I have to drive exactly 430 miles in this direction and then bang Diane at this motel. I understand"
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POST EPISODE RANKINGS

>12/10
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>11/10
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>10/10
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IT WAS ALL A DREAM
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>>87334379
I'M DYING
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To the people who might have been confused by the end or think there's plot inconsistencies, while I won't go into any theories specifically or deny any criticism you might have. I do think it's important to understand several parallels drawn by David Lynch and where he took inspiration from to truly get what he was going for (or was trying to go for). I'm not going to explain any theory in and of itself, but I will try to lay a general line of thinking out on the table.

There's a clear inspiration taken by Lynch from a certain genre of anime, in particular the likes of Angel Beats (2010) and Charlotte (2015). Both heavily criticized for doing the exact same thing Twin Peaks did but it really does all fit together well if you're of an high IQ enough to understand and appreciate this type of story. I know this might come of as unbelievable but there's many similarities here and if you want a less complex version that might help you understand the Season 3 Finale of Twin Peaks I think it's best to have seen the aforementioned shows.
They might be a little rough, and things might seem odd. But that's exactly why it compares so well to Twin Peaks. You can see, going from the first to the second show the time that has passed in real time reflects within the show itself. AB (?) C (?). It's a rollercoaster ride much like Twin Peaks was (is? season 4?) and will likely help you answer many of the problems you might have had with the ending of the third season of Twin Peaks. They're diamonds in the rough. They're the crude oil running through the veins of our inner sanctum. But at the end of the day you can better understand Lynch as a person, a creator, and, most importantly, a human. What his eyes saw and what he tried to reflect. Through the works so brilliantly parodied by him that go beyond a subconscious mind.

If you've got 10 hours of free time, and want to understand Twin Peaks on a much higher plane, consume these 2 shows. Thank me later.
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>S1: 8/10
>First 9 episodes of S2: 9/10
>Episode 10 - 21 of S2: 2/10
>Episode 22 of S2: 10/10
>FWWM: 11/10
>S3 (1-7): 9/10
>S3 ep 8: 10/10
>S3 (9-16): 9/10
>S3 ep 17: 10/10
>S3 ep 18: 11/10
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>>87334388
but they talked about judy
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>>87334388
HEEELOOoooOoooOooOOO
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>>87334389
how do I into a milf gf?
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>>87334474
What did you think Laura whispered to him?
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>>87334388
its Judy you dumdum. The Frogmoth is one of its creations that has been possessing Sarah, the Fireman sent Laura to counteract it by allowing Sarah to love. once Laura died Sarah slowly lost her mind more and more to the Frogmoth. now she is taken over by it and shoving Laura out of this world to prevent her from never dying since a saved Laura could reconcile with her and thus end the cycle
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>>87334480
SUPER NINTENDO
SEGA GENESIS
WHEN I WAS CARRIE PAGE COOPER COULDN'T PICTURE THIS
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>>87334480
SUPER NINTENDO
SEGA GENESIS
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What was the significance of this? It feels important
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>>87334511
At least Angel Beats explains shit at the end.
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I spent so much of the finale shifting in my chair uncomfortably you'd think I was Tammy.
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Friendly reminder that if they make season 4/movie Albert would become another missing Blue Rose member and the series will devolve into Gordon and Tammy's sexcapades.
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>>87334441
I don't know. I don't get people that say he fucked up in Season 2 either. He has been dealing with things beyond reality, of course he is going to be mostly fucked.
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>>87334475
I don't even remember the first half of the season honestly
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>>87334475
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Coop fucked up in a sort of human way though. Although by the last scene his identity was a bit hazy, he was still trying to do something he felt was right. And he was wrong. Love wasn't enough.
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Reminder that Laura is confirmed to be the dreamer.

Tremont was the surname of the woman who gave Laura the painting in FWWM, starting the dream, and the surname of the woman who effectively woke Laura up from the dream in the final scene.
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>>87334373
>lynch spend what little of his budget he had to cgi the door red
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guys, i need help remembering something. when was carrie page first mentioned?
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>>87334532
Oh that's a convenient explanation
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>>87334474
"430" wasn't directions. He just saw that it happened to be 430 miles, showing something the giant told him to be true. Did you watch season 2?
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>>87334511
nah Im done with that shit, I'm watching Boku no Hero Academia now. Cya.
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>>87334474
Fucking Diane was part of the dream. It was his subconscious desire to have sex with her. He is cold faced because he doesn't really love her and only has a desire for sex with her. Basically after that point Cooper is acting very much like someone in a dream would act. Arguably even before that but that can be up for debate.
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New Kyle interview
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/twin-peaks-finale-explained-kyle-maclachlan-interview-1035013

>Given the way you're talking about the ending, does this feel like a definitive conclusion to you? Do you feel like we've just seen the end of Twin Peaks?

"I don't know. They have had no discussions. I have had no discussions about anything beyond what we've seen. That's where it is right now. I don't have any other answer than that, I guess."

>If this is the end, does the question of "What year is this?" feel more satisfying to you than "How's Annie?" as a final landing spot for Cooper? In other words, are you OK with this as the ending for Twin Peaks versus how things were left at the end of season two?

"(Laughs.) You know, it's a good question... I would love playing Cooper forever and ever. It's just one of those characters who seems to fit. David and I have worked to make this amazing world and character. I love it. I hate saying goodbye. I hate not seeing him every week on the television. In terms of, "What year is this?" I think it just asks more questions. He's left us with the direction to go back through and watch and absorb and take in what we've just seen again. But apart from that? I am still processing it, myself. I'm still processing what I saw. I know I filmed it. I filmed it a long time ago, actually. But I had no idea how it was going to fall into the context of everything. I'm still reeling. Reeling, I think, is the word, about what it all means."
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>>87334365
Quick, someone superimpose CIA's face over a Bane Batman scene.
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>>87334581
in the russian spoilers
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>>87334549
TAMMY MEET THE LONG LOST ALBERT ROSENFIELD
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>>87334315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVgmIv4bC1A

deleted final scene
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>>87334552
>>87334566

He's clearly been changed by his experience in the lodge and is definitely more akin to Jefferies now than a regular human being. Now that Laura is awake she can fulfill her destiny to stop Judy.
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>>87334430
hai, mang
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>>87334573
>people think "Who is the dreamer" is a literal question
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>>87334549
It's all funny and stuff but seeing the scene between Albert and Constance was that much more bittersweet knowing Miguel had died only a few months before the series premiered. He was cool.
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>>87334549
Would watch!
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>>87334537
Here's the best I got: Cole is very aware and in tune with the supernatural like cooper. He can see things the same way, hence "Cole will remember the unofficial version". I think that since the atomic bomb, the human and lodge worlds (and the human limbo/alternate timeline in between) have been colliding. Some results of this are certain inconsistencies and others are things like this, people like Cole seeing important things
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>>87334382
>>87334436
where'd you get this from?
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>>87334474
This kills the lynchedposter
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>>87334627
>I am Albert
>and I sound like this
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>>87334531
This, Sheryl's literally perfect
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>>87334600
Okay, even if we accept that it doesn't explain how he knew where to go
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Coop is acting fucking weird because he's in an alternate reality and is resisting turning into his alternate self, "Richard".
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>>87334382
>>87334436
>these are the same people who hated FWWM when it came out
And now I bet these same people hate the new season as well. History keeps cycling
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if 1953 girl was sarah then what was she doing out in the arizonia desert? twin peaks is way up north in washington.
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>>87334618
>I filmed it a long time ago, actually. But I had no idea how it was going to fall into the context of everything
nigga you read the whole thing
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Honestly, the only thing i really think needed an answer was Audrey. Do we have to assume she was just crazy after the coma and imagining things? Was that room all white because it was an hospital/psychiatric ward room?
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>>87334537
He experiences the supernatural through site and sound which is why he has the hearing aid to "hear" the spirits.
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>>87334659
ahahaha
N

O
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>>87334697
This, a manufactured reality to be exact. RichCoop was put there to save Laura from Judy.
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Hi everyone

I just finished watching all 18 episodes of the new season, but I think I may have missed the parts with Donna?

Can any of you tell me what episodes she appears in? Thanks!
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>>87334623
the name wasn't in any episodes (besides 18)?
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>>87334694
Correct, we did not see him given coordinates, but that part of events is easy enough to figure out.
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>>87334627
Twin Peaks is just going to be a remake of the Brave Little Toaster next time.
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>>87334697
>Giant tells him Richard and Linda
>He doesn't fucking remember
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>Before the finale /tpg/ had 35 posters tops and would stop at 300

>Post finale /tpg/ has hundreds and reaches the limit

Seriously this finale is gonna be talked about for years whatever you think happened, thank you lynch/frost
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>>87334615
It was Sex Magick
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>>87334740
Part 8
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>>87334531
Are you younger? Find out what bars older single women go to.

You might not get a GF but you can totally get laid.
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>>87334697
Who the fuck is Richard, then? Does normal Coop just not exist in a world where Laura doesn't exist?
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AND YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND

https://youtu.be/-hBk1esFe2U
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>>87334768
I still can't stop thinking about it
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Wait so if we saw Leo in episode 17, does that mean that he wasn't killed by the spiders???
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>>87334534
Thanks, m8.
But I'm pretty sure the whole point of showing its birth at the nuclear test was to disprove what you just said. Off was all pointless because Laura is alive now but the pure evil entity is still alive.
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>>87334795
even at thumbnail size, sheryl a cute
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>>87334768
Is that early on or after the spoilers leak exodus?
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>>87334537
So does the "unofficial version" mean that Coop will be able to find an aware Gordon in the alternate reality?
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>>87334815
it's a flashback from FWWM, before Laura was killed, my dude
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I... I miss the vedder posts...
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>>87334815
We didn't. The drunk redneck with the ponytail wasn't Leo.
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>>87334474
How did he know Frank had the Great Nothern key? How did he know Freddy was meant to defeat Bob? How did he know about the seed and how to make a tupa?

Maybe, just maybe, Cooper has a ton of information the audience doesn't, and that was obvious to everyone who was paying attention.
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>>87334768
I think a lot of people left due to the Russian spoilers, I stopped coming about a week before the finale when I heard about them.
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>>87334794
No, Coop's plan was to enter into Judy's manufactured reality where she was holding Laura (Carrie), in this reality Cooper's name just happened to be Richard, we can see him battling against going full Richard from his odd behavior in Judy's "realm"
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>>87334794
Who the fuck is Carrie Page? They look the same but are different people.
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Is this how people felt when season 2 ended 26 years ago? Pissed off?
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>>87334768
Incorrect. /tpg/ regularly hovered around 65-70 posters.

Your bump limit point has merit, however.
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Help me with this one question /tpg/:

Do the original characters still exist by the end of episode 18? We see Pete, Catherine, Josie, etc, but that's before Coop meets with Carrie in another reality. In doing so does that mean all the beloved seasons 1 and 2 characters are wiped from existence?
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>>87334851
??
What is FWWM?
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>>87334842
I left after leaks, before we would get 60+ posters
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>he didn't CUTEpost for the duration of the season's run

APOLOGIZE
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>>87334716
It's almost like people move or something
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>>87334842
During the exodus but tpg had been declining more and more since the start
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>>87334904
Probably
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Episode 18 is the perfect example of what's wrong with David Lynch's stuff. Ep. 18 took season 3 from great surreal sci-fi to Aquateen Hunger Force anything-goes nonsense. It retroactively makes the rest of the season worse because for all those loose ends, you can have 99% confidence that there is no real resolution, and as result, no real meaning. Making your own interpretation isn't fun when you essentially have to rewrite the whole show. At that point, it just feels like fixing the writer's mistakes.
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>>87334913
The prequel movie, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
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>>87334815
Honestly I find it hilarious that Leo did die because of those spiders. Fucking kek
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>>87334646
Well how the fuck are you supposed to know what is literal and what is figurative then?
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>>87334851
>Laura was killed
That never happened, Cooper stopped it
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Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder recorded a song that plays during the Twin Peaks finale. It confirms Edward Louis Severson never gets his mind back. (Pic is evil Severson) Listen https://youtube/pXth84G7dkM
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>>87334904
Only dumb people who don't deserve Lynch.
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>>87334511
You were posting this last night you fucking faggot loser. I am NEVER going to watch these animes now, and I am someone open enough to look into it, but there is something slimey and pathetic about the way you type.
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WAIT A FUCKIN' SECOND

If Doppel Coop has the same memories as regular Coop, and Gordon said he, Jefferies and Cooper were studying Judy, why the fuck did he ask who Judy was?

And what did Jefferies mean by
>"Youuuu've already met Jewdayyy"
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what was this guy's problem?
was he manufactured?

why were there no guards?
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>>87334960
>he thinks actually Cooper stopped it
lmao
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>>87334939
>sci-fi
kek
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>Carrie Paige
>Laura's last page of her diary
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>>87334957
my dude, everything lynch does is about intuition
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>>87334910
I think they're all still alive but all in vastly different circumstances and doing very different things Laura's death really changed everything
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I wasn't here last week, what was /tpg/ like when the Vedderfags got BTFO?
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Post yfw lynch bringing "judy" back killed all jeffries posting
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>>87334752
Enlighten me then
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>>87334988
Seeing this reminds me, who the fuck was the businessman and why was he killed?
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bob?
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Why did this season emphasize dreams so much when the finale seemed to be more about time/alternate realities than straight-up "dude it was a dream"?

>>87334928
I couldn't have known lynch would do this
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>>87334939
Imagine being a brainlet like this guy.
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>>87334939
>loose ends
Just because those stories weren't wrapped up the way you would've liked doesn't mean they weren't over.
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>>87334795
I just noticed Cooper is doing the weird hand thing he did in the Lodge to make the curtains move
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Was it a bad story, /tpg/?
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>>87334982
You, I like you.
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>>87334618
Nobody could escape the Lynching
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>>87334884
>Carrie Page
I like to think of this as Laura's missing diary page.

Cooper goes to "complete" the diary by bringing back the last missing piece, ie return Laura to her self.
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>>87334910
They still exist because Coop just ended up in a different reality.
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>>87334786
she was the bug
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Reminder.
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>>87334957
That question came from a dream where Cole talked to Monica Bellucci

Quite obvious that wasn't a literal piece of the puzzle
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I'm pretty sure MIKE tricked Cooper the whole time.

But I need to develop this theory.
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>>87334983
Maybe he only knew Judy as Jow Dai
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>>87335019
they didn't. How does it feel to be on the wrong side of reality?
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>>87334983
I think that Judy is the name for Mother's form on earth. Perhaps the three were simply calling mother "Judy" but coppelcoop wants to know specifically who she is. He's already met Sarah Palmer, which is who judy is
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>>87335019
They were suicidal and stopped posting at first then started spamming it and derailing threads the last few days
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>>87334867
>>87334867
25 Years stuck in the lodge will do that
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>>87334853
Friendly reminder that it's confirmed that Eddie Vedder recorded a song that's exclusive to the Twin Peaks: The Return soundtrack. It confirms that in the new reality, the South won the Civil War. (Pic is good General Lee.)
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>>87334910
Yes, but as different people and in different places
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This is Lucy and she says she wants to cuddle with you.

Do you agree?
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>>87335038
NOPE
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>>87335066
>he's gay
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So everyone is convinced Judy is in Sarah Palmer

So what about all the Jumping Man imagery. Jumping Man = Judy?
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>>87334983
He knew what Judy was, but not who.
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>>87335083
Umm, no sweetie, Cooper got his mind back and Vedder didn't perform his song in the finale.
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>>87334988
WHERE WAS THE GUARD FUCK

can this be the new /tpg/ meme? We figure out where the guard is?
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:-) ALL.
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>>87335097
OMG Twin Peaks is a alt right show!? WTF!!
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>>87335041
Ohhh, Audrey staring at a mirror in a white room, what a great resolution after ~50 minutes boring arguing with her husband (?).
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h-hey ben what are you doing buddy
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>>87335038
It's literally just a drape
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lmao that Bob got killed by some jobber we didn't even know the name of 2 episodes ago
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I haven't finished watching the finale in whole, but I just got to say punching the Bob Ball is really f***ing stupid. Like super f***ing stupid. Like thought bubble little Nicky stupid. F**k green glove, I want my life back that I wasted watching that character

Everything in the jail is unwatchable

Cooper's superimposed face. Just dumb looking

Inserting Cooper into a flashback? Dumb!! Wasting time on a flashback ? Why??

Lynch f***ed it all up g*dammit
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How do I get a Tammy?
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Are the Veder posters going to ask Sabrina Sutherland about Coop getting his mind back in the AMA?
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>>87334436
Plebs with always throw rocks to art
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>>87335122
Because Jumping man didn't freak out and stab a picture of Laura after she was rescued and then the next scene was Laura being stolen.
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The moral of the story here is that Dale Cooper became yet another Laura Palmer beta male orbiter after being addicted to her Black Lodge Pussy for 25 years and thought they had something special once they were both out.
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>>87335041
Not him, but some of the stories were not concluded. Or rather, the setup was there without the payoff. Mainly I am thinking the scenes with Red, Becky flat out disappearing, and the Audrey storyline.
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>>87335173
Piss poor b8, m8
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>>87335122
The experiment that vomited BOB and the eggs is Judy.

She puked up the egg that hatched into the needle nosed frog, which went into the mouth of Sarah Palmer when she was young. Jumping Man is its other form when it leaves Sarah (as it does judging by Sarah's on and off behaviour)
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>>87335070
I dunno, dude. I feel that literally anything at any given time can be important. This show is a mindfuck.
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DON'T STOP
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>>87335174
Look for the tranny escort backpages
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>people thought there would be a happy ever after ending with coop visiting sick Truman at his home (that they filmed in secret)

hahahaha
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>>87335173
L Y N C H E D
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>>87335124
>denying reality this hard
are you courtney love?
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>episodes 1-16 unJUSTs Ed, Norma, and even Nadine
>Bobby living a good life even if his ex-wife and daughter are fucked up
>Ben tried to live his life virtuously and make up for his crimes and the crimes of his family
>Andy grew out of being the bumbling comic relief and was actually a pretty badass cop
>the only person in Twin Peaks who really needed Coop's help was Audrey
>Coop doesn't even acknowledge Audrey's existence and instead ruptures time and space Evangelion style and ruins everyone's lives
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>>87335190
That doesn't explain why we saw Sarah's face on Jumping Man, or Jumping Man's nose behind Sarah's face
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>>87334768
>Famously surreal show
>Finale leaves fanbase split, with many up in arms

I think if we can learn anything from the past, it's certainly going to be a topic of conversation for years to come.
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if laura didn't die in the original reality thanks to coop is she just continuing her life as it was to probably be murdered at a later date, or was she simply wiped from existence?
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>>87335230
>these same people now want a whole new season just so they can get LYNCHED again
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>>87335221
sleazy LA hanger on btfo
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>>87335035
He was part of Boop's plan to get Dougie/Cooper killed. He was killed to tie loose ends after he failed for so long
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>>87335197
Can you really blame him when she turned out to be such a MILF?
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>>87335269
She was in an entirely different existence altogether but as someone else.
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>>87335289
looks haggard as fuck. what are you talking about?
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>>87334549
>Albert would become another missing Blue Rose member
I'm sad about this
>the series will devolve into Gordon and Tammy's sexcapades.
I'm okay with this
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>>87335208
I like this theory
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The amount of pretentious BS many "critics" and fans have been spouting since the TR finale is truly astounding. I understand that any piece of art is open to interpretation, but any piece of art that encourages this amount of interpretation must have failed on some level. Because, in the end, all good art has a point, even if it's just on an aesthetic level, and that point has to be clear, even if it requires some digging to get to. To me, very little about TR has the faintest resemblance to a point. What was the point of all these hipster bands at the Roadhouse? What was the point of those cruel Audrey scenes? How about all those stale scenes with the Blue Rose task force sitting around, talking gibberish exposition? What was the point of the glass box? How is anybody supposed to get it, be enlightened by all this crap, and appreciate the artistry of it all? And that doom-laden finale, trapping Cooper, the heart of TP, in limbo, is just beyond cruel and nihilistic. I, for one, am not watching this mess again. An utter misfire, and, IMHO, the worst piece of work of Lynch' s career.
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>>87335230

I wish Michael Ontkean agreed to do S3. Lynch would have still made Cooper fuck everything up, but I feel like Harry would have had a lot more screen time than Frank and some fan-service-y "I am the FBI" moments in his reunion with Coop before it happened.
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>>87335066
Wait what the fuck? That's the same guy?
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>>87335311
>t.Lara Flynn Boyle
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>>87334441
Why ask what year it is?
He spent enough time from the motel to Odessa and twin peaks - did he never see a newspaper watch tv or have the car radio on?
The sex scene was a time slip though - he remeets Diane in 1989 then they go to the new dimension
The motel looks older with a valve telly etc and then he wakes up 25 years later and the motel is more modern and has expanded to 2 levels
And he even goes into the fucking petrol station so he must know what year
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Evil coop raped Audrey and had demonspawn while Audrey was in a coma the whole time? What?

Did she die during the coma? Surely? Nobody gets out after 25 years, pulled the plug on her? Was she stuck forever in the white lodge not accepting reality?
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>>87335237
>Andy grew out of being the bumbling comic relief and was actually a pretty badass cop

He did that in the Original series too.
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>>87335343
Umm, no.
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>>87334957
God/Brahma is the dreamer and we are all aspects of him, just like how when you dream everyone in the dream is an aspect of yourself that you've created and forgot you created.
Spirituality 101 stuff.
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They better not waste time with getting S4 or a movie out.


A lot of these actors could die any fucking day now.
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>>87335343
He's not wrong though. Look at the size of her midsection. Her ass only looks decent because it's being held into shape by tight jeans
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when Cooper asked "what year is this"

is that because everything hit him at once -- like being trapped in the lodge for 25 years, going to different realities, etc.

He stumbled forward, like his mind was snapping.
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>>87334549
No, they would just have Albert retiring with the morgue lady he went on a date with.
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>>87335311
You dont know shit. She's in her late 40s and looks bankable.
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>post yfw credits
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>>87335356
It was like the ending of Silent Hill.
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>>87335322
>any piece of art that encourages this amount of interpretation must have failed on some leve
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>>87335387
That ain't it. Just look at the face. But she's a 50 year old white woman what do you expect.
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>>87335426
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>>87335153
I loved that bike
I named her Ma~riaaa
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>>87335388
he's got FEVER
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>>87335322
>all good art has a point, even if it's just on an aesthetic level
>next half of the post is all muh loose ends muh happy ending muh I don't get it complaints
heh almost fell for the bait
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>>87335356
He asks what year it is because he realizes this isn't reality
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>>87335388

I'm pretty sure he was following Laura's instructions, and either he ended up in the right year or he forgot what she whispered to him and ended up in the wrong year.
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>>87335388
I think that ending hit Cooper the same way it hit us. He literally did not see that coming and was left confused and lost about where to go next.
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Incredibly, there are individuals itt RIGHT NOW that still can't comprehend the most preeminent attestation of the Twin Peaks nexus. JUMPING MAN holds THE KEY TO EVERYTHING.
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>>87334315
I know it seems like a very basic thing, but I don't get why Laura's so important. Her importance early on was perfectly clear, but the stakes were raised so much over time, and I don't really understand why she's so important that an otherworldly manifestation of evil has a personal vendetta against her and why Cooper is willing to risk it all and traverse time and space just to save her. I'm sure I'm just missing something, but what's the deal here?
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>>87335411
Tammy is 40 and looks bankable (milf), other one looks haggard.
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>>87335385
when laura screamed she shutdown the electricity. it's over, lad
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>>87335311
If you don't see it I don't know what to tell you m8
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Boring stupid crappy. The Sarah stuff and the last scene was creepy and that's great and all but what was the rest of it. I did not need a full length fanfiction style sex scene. Entire chunks of silent driving time. Why did Cooper bother taking the Odessa waitress to the Palmer house? Who cares. It feels like this whole thing was written over a drunken weekend.
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>>87335303
we see pete going fishing in the original existence, so presumably it still exists alongside judy's manufactered one. does that mean that the original characters still exist but laura was never part of their world, that twin peaks is left exactly as it was but with no laura? no recollection of her ever existing?
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>>87335265
What if Twin Peaks gets Season 4 after robust Blu-ray sales?
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LE GLOVE BLOKE
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>>87335432
ha ha the ending of silent hill was all the characters goofing around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUQpBmeR4e0
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>>87335472
there is no key to everything in twin peaks thats the fucking point dingus

fuck you
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>>87335174
Make good art
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>>87335453


But he's kinda cute.
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>Cooper fucked his partners wife
>Cooper fucked Diane even before the Doppleganger existed
>Cooper fucked a girl fresh out of the Convent

Cooper should have kept it in his fucking pants.
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Please, DUGPA anon, post more retarded shit. I don't want to search for those posts myself.
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>>87335197
>tfw this is literally true and Laura is actually the evil one and BOB stands for Beta Orbiter Backlash
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>>87335387
The fuck are you talking about, she's in great shape for a fifty year old
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>>87335485
Dude my ass is big as hers, I don't get the appeal. I'm trying to lose mine. Her face is also very wrinkled. But hey, she's a 50 year old white chick.
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>>87334519
That was lynch taking the piss out of people for making a big thing out of fwwm Judy
Really Cole just saying oh yeah this Cthulhu bitch exists and it's jew - daism but it's been changed over time into a common female name?
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>>87335411
>>87335479
she's 52.
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>Judy is the mother of both BOB and the egg that eventually births the jumping bug with the pointy nose, implied to be the jumping man
>The Fireman produces Laura's soul in order to counteract Judy's evil
>Jumping Man possesses Laura's mother and BOB possesses Laura's father in order to keep her at arm's lenght, BOB tries to possess Laura but the plan is foiled by MIKE (who used to work with BOB in order to get Garmonbonzia, but eventually turned against him when he "saw the face of god", maybe the Fireman since he appears in the black lodge along with Mike and his arm) by giving her the ring, which ties Laura to MIKE/The lodge and makes it impossible for Bob to possess her, so he has to kill her.
>The Fireman kidnaps Major Briggs and gives him some knowledge of whatever is going on; he proceeds to make a plan along with Cooper and Cole to stop Judy once and for all. The plan involves Cooper and Diane somehow (it could be related to Diane being the true love of Cooper's life, and love being the door that opens the white lodge if that's still being considered canon).
>Bob goes into plan B, possesses Cooper's Doppelganger and devises a plan to kill all involved. He manages to kill Briggs (or so he thinks; he actually escaped to the white lodge in order to drop clues to Cole on how to find both Cooper (the Dougie ring) and Diane (the coordinates); Cole doesen't pick up on either of them though), sets up a fake Diane as a trap for Cole, sets up the Dougie tulpa and the glass box in order to trap Cooper in las vegas and have him killed and goes after the DIane coordinates in order to have her killed too.
>His plan fails and BOB is exorcised forever. Meanwhile, Jumping Man (a servant/helper of Judy) manages to escape and still lives within Sarah Palmer.
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>tfw lynch ARAKI'd us
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>>87335475
yeah, watch episode 8 again and everything he log lady has said about laura
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>>87335230
>People thought there would an ending

fixed
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>>87335522
>Beta Orbiter Backlash
ga ga ga breppp
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>>87335509
Are you really taking this literally? How fucking new are you exactly?
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When Jeffries said Gordon would remember the "unofficial version", was that referring to Gordon's Monica Belluci dream? Cooper was there, and could probably see the scene with Jeffries in 1989, the "unofficial" parts being what Gordon didn't remember until after the dream.
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>>87335469

Good answer. I felt a huge sense of dread/confusion when Cooper said the line.
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>>87335520
Literally just posting the most recent page of the profoundly disappointed thread
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>>87335356
Asking what year it was was also a cue to snap Laura out of the dream, notice how she can't answer a simple question like that. The reality Coop saves her from was manufactured
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>>87335388
Just like how Jeffries started stumbling when he realised he was standing in the Philidelphia FBI office.
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Why did Lunch need to waste 30 fucking billion minutes of the finale with driving sequences?
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>>87335542
>Cooper's plan is set into motion, he manages to save Laura from death; however, either Jumping Man or Judy do something that make her disappear; Her murder is prevented but Cooper still has to bring her home to have her face off against Jumping Man and Judy.
>However, the world he finds himself in is similar yet different than the one he is used to, Laura is not herself and Sarah doesen't live in her house, and he currently has no way of knowing how to get them to face off.
Everything else is symbology that you can interpret however you want, what these alternate dimensions are is basically up to you, if they are different dreams, a dream and reality etc. is not indicated in any clear way nad Lynch made it clear multiple times that his movies are whatever you make of them.
All plotlines were closed up except for Audrey's and Shelley's, which are younger than the rest of the cast and have a higher chance of being alive if a new season ever happens. All we know about them is that Shelley's daughter may or may not have been killed by her husband who then committed suicide under the effect of the drugs that are sold by her boyfriend, and Audrey has been living a delusion or a dream and may be institutionalized or in a different plane of existance (as the Arm repeats what she says about the girl living down the lane for some reason).
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>>87335475

It's a metaphor mang. Laura was always the heart of the show spiritually and emotionally. The show has always been about the abuse she endured and her death. The finale fittingly goes back to her and shows what happens when someone tries to take over another person's trauma. Cooper dragged her back through the suffering she experienced and he ruined things for her.
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>>87335265
Would you reccomend secret agent man and the prisoner?
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>>87335265
What show is this?
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>>87335356
>Why ask what year it is?
Is it future or is it past?
Maybe he did read the year and thought he knew what year it was, but with nothing adding up after visiting the house he got confused, and asked again. The issue wasn't the year, it was the reality. Perhaps he thought he was only traveling forwards and backwards, when he was actually traveling side to side as well.
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>>87335565
my maddy ;_;
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What was his endgame?
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>>87335479
wtf, Chrysta Bell is 40?
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>>87335535
Who the fuck are you talking about because Sheryl Lee is 50
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>>87335568
it's a nod at the fact it's a deleted scene we never saw in the original release of FWWM
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>>87335623
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I think two birds with one stone was just about BOB and Bad Cooper.
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>>87335631
call for help
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>>87335643
Yes, that's why I was saying she looks way better compared to her in terms of milf category.
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What can I say? Watching not only series 3, but the entire previous two series' comprehensively trashed by the finale has left me feeling - and I'm not exaggerating - utterly sickened. That blood-freezing scream at the end underlined that we have willingly subjected ourselves not to a dream, but an 18-hour waking nightmare. Kind of reminded me of the mother's scream at the end of the film Threads - a black howl of despair and hopelessness. Episode 17 was poor, but episode 18 really took the biscuit. One of my main criticisms of the show was that it was only tangentially connected to Twin Peaks. Episode 18 had no connection whatsoever to Twin Peaks. I think that it's safe to say that Lynch was taking the piss the entire time.

It's difficult put into words how utterly furious e17 made me. Bu retconning the story so that Laura Palmer never died, Lynch effectively ripped the heart out of the original show. How are we supposed to view the original, in which so much was invested over so much time, in light of the revelation that it, in effect, never happened in the first place? It turns what was a tragedy into a minor inconvenience and effectively wipes the whole narrative from existence. Remember how upset fans of The Simpsons got when they were told that Principal Skinner was an imposter all along? This is even worse. People have grown up with this story, and to callously destroy it in this manner is just cruel and mean-spirited.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

What about the implication in e18 (surely one of the worst conclusions to any television drama ever) that every single thing we have ever known about Twin Peaks was nothing more than a figment of someone's imagination? Sheriff Truman, Hawk, Andy, Lucy, James, Donna, Laura, Bobby, Mike, Nadine, Ed, Norma, Hank, Leo, Jacques, Jean, Blackie, Jerry, Ben, Audrey, Cole, Albert, Pete, Catherine... haha, they never existed! The joke's on you!

Trash. Better to pretend it doesn't exist
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>>87335623
I JUST WANTED TO SEE HER DOPPLEGANGER ONE MORE TIME

LYYYYYNNNCHHHH
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>>87335542
Do you have any proof for these statements at all, or is it complete conjecture?
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>>87335583
it pissed me off too. I guess I take it as a metaphor, or a microcosm for the third season as a whole: a whole lot of journeying to the destination, except you don't know what to do when you get there.
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Maddy is the key...to my heart
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>>87335702
Black hair is best hair.
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which was the biggest influence on s3
Lain, Eva or One Punch Man?
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>>87335631
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0u5ZTplr26d
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>>87335678
>why does this woman who is ten years younger and not a mother not being compared as a milf

gee I wonder
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>>87335687
Uh, this guy actually has a really good point
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>what year is it
>this plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TZbze72Bc
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>>87335552
Its funny because its true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlVPeOxN8g
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>>87334794
This is the entire point of the series.

Coop only exists in a world in which Laura dies.

Coop tries to save Laura, they both become NON-EXIS-TENT.
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>>87335687
10/10 pasta
copied for later
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>>87335742
She looks haggard.
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>>87335718
you wouldn't happen to be the anon who printed that picture out and did nasty things to it right
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>>87334982
I'm actually not the same guy, I'm just mocking him because I agree with you 100%.
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>>87335322
good bait mait
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>>87335709
This whole show is conjecture.
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>>87334365
I think it'd be aesthetic as fuck while dougie is crawling towards the light socket.
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>>87335357
The world record for a coma in which the survivor woke up is 19 years

world's longest coma in which the person died is 37. Based on that it sounds like Audrey is pretty fucked, unless the coma is induced by some black lodge shenanigans. In that case it's conceivable that Cooper could have saved her, but they have him go save his secretary instead because Lynch wanted to cram Laura Dern into another one of his projects
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>>87335732
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1o3Lo28xUtS
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>>87335796
THANK YOU ANON PLEASE POUR ME A CUP OF COFFEE
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>>87334658
the dot net
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>>87335732
WAH?
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>>87335787
U sure is shit i am...

Got my green glove ready for the next time i white lodge my judy
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https://soundcloud.com/kexp/the-world-spins
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>>87335803
Not even a bait, just copypasted dugpa post.
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So Diane gets rapped by evil cooper, gets freed form Naido in the future, then gets raped by evil cooper again?
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>>87335709
I haven't read two fucking theories that even remotely match up. I think there's a mildly complex word game to figure SOMETHING out but it will be awhile until someone does. But mostly I think people are just making shit up, none of you know anything.
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>>87335342
No, Google just got confused.
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>>87335039
Our reality is the dream of the lodge spirits. There are no alternate timelines, just dreams colliding and collapsing.
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>>87334315
>God-Tier legs
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>this never played once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiwtDoxHT2Y

the fuck lynch
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everyone is thinking it's a bad ending but it really isn't. The fact that Laura is screaming means she remembers the horrors she experienced of her murder. She overcame Judy's roadblock of the house belonging to someone else. Now that she remembers, they can both go back to the lodge.

However, we see Coop attempt to open the curtains to no avail, somethign is up. I don't think this means all is lost though. Cooper can go to Cole for the "unoffcial version" in this Odessa reality, or hell maybe even go find hawk and andy at the sherrifs station. (of course Judy will change some stuff around again I bet.) Besides, Judy isn't more powerful thatn the fireman.

Either way, it ends so abruptly that both a good and bad ending can be extrapolated from it.
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>>87335868
Yep, that's more than enough /tpg/ for me.

Good night.
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>>87335871
Problem?
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>>87335881
we dreamed a dream in time gone by
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>Lynch is making kino on the show
>Frost is explaining all the shit that Lynch doesn't care to explain in the books

This...this is what's happening, right? "Gordon will remember the unofficial version" was a plug for the Final Dossier, right? ;_;
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>>87335895
Just makes its appearence all the more unique
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>>87335709
The facts are all shown or stated within the show itself (The bug being jumping man is just an assumption but they do look similar and Sarah's face is shown superimposed over Jumping Man's), the motivations are just conjecture but they don't really matter honestly
It's just a summary of the main events, everything else is up to interpretation
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>>87335871
>hen gets raped by evil cooper again?
No. That was Richard.
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The year is 25 years from now.
That's why he's so confused.
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>>87334315
>Bob was killed by British one punch man
No one believes me.... does anyone have a link to the bob fight?
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>>87335025
The fact that Jeffries is so willing to talk about Judy is what truly killed it
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I'm the anon who edited together the FWWM fun. I think we should do the sheriff's station scene
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watching for a second time and fuck this superimposed face is one of the scariest things ever. look at coop's face, twice, realizing he fucked up again and that something, everything is wrong. it's like the "this is happening again" scene but 10x worse, jesus Lynch
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>>87335945
It fits pretty well with one of the themes of this season of villains getting extremely anti-climactic send-offs by random minor characters.

Can't say it wasn't a bit of cathartic happiness to finally see BOB get smashed to smitheroons.
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>>87335891
imagine being that pusy cover!!!!
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>>87335909
Don't go
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>>87335881
I think its legitimately open ended, Lynch made it so to invite artistic interpretations instead of concrete explanations

From an objective standpoint I approve, but boy as a fan I just want that steamy cherry pie shoved down my stupid throat. what did you do to my waifu Audrey REEEEEEEEE
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>>87334627
*Record scratch*
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>>87335985
I thought something was wrong with the video.
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Why was Fire Walk With Me cut so shitty???

What the fuck was the point of the first 30 min of that movie??
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>>87335475
She's the archetype of lost innocence, this theme permeates Lynch's other works too.
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Friendly reminder that it's now been confirmed that all leaks are 100% fake, Vedderfriends are 100% correct and season 4 IS happening. Also Frost is writing an On The Air novel.
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this scene was fucking hilarious
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>>87335939
Also, that's why he's in Richard's body.
If they ever continue this, they can just recast Coop.
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>>87335568
I thought the "unofficial version" was Laura Palmer being murdered
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>Halley's comet's come and gone
This kind of describes the new series
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Have any of you guys played Bloodborne? It's literally the same shit as this. The story is open ended and you don't know exactly what happened.
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>>87335999
>but boy as a fan I just want that steamy cherry pie shoved down my stupid throat
lewd
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>>87335118
Frances and Jamie are female names
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>>87336028
WHY WAS BRIGGS GIANT HEAD JUST HOBERING THEREI DONT FUCKING GET IT
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WHO READY FOR

S E A S O N F O U R?
CONFIRMED
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>>87335631
This scene takes place in the same reality that Carrie Page exists.
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COOP? WHAT HAPPENED TO JOSIE?????
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>>87335117
>"LOL Here's me and my bf dressed up as Laura and Leland Palmer!! XD"

The absolute degenerate state of reddit. Anyone else over girls with daddy issues? I know I am.
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>>87335081
>Jow Dai
交待... 我们不谈交待
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>>87336070
His body was never found with a head was it?
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>>87336070
Because Don Davis died of a heart attack like more than ten years ago, but they had lots of green-screen footage of him from the White Lodge scenes.
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>>87336070
Briggs is a lodge spirit now. Basically he has ascended. This was really an /x/-core show what with the tulpas, dimensions and spirits.
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>>87335986
>Can't say it wasn't a bit of cathartic happiness to finally see BOB get smashed to smitheroons.
I'm shocked there no twin peaks one punch man memes yet
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>>87335134
>this is the text Lynch sent Showtime, giving them the go-ahead to LYNCH every last one of us

Lynch is still in the lodge collecting his garmonbozia
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>>87335778
But Cooper was in FBI school before Laura died.
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>>87336028
Looks like a 90s point and click adventure like I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream or Harvester, which was a Twin Peaks parody for fucks sake
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>season 2 finale: reminds you how small Windom Earle in the grand scheme and that BOB is a more powerful evil
>the return finale: reminds you how unimportant BOB is in the grand scheme of things because Laura is fucking dead and Coop and us are still clinging to some sort of conclusion
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>>87336077
He just wants to sell his book.
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>>87336070
His head clearly ascended to the white lodge, Hastings witnessed it
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>>87336148
>>87336148
>>87336148
>>87336148

NEW
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>>87336077
YESSSS MY MAN
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>>87334767
is this in the opening scene?
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>>87335605
>Secret Agent Man
Haven't actually watched it yet, so I can't say.
>The Prisoner
Absolutely. Fucking fantastic show.

>>87335608
See above
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So what in the fuck happened?
>>
SPECIAL MESSAGE TO REDDITORS, SKIPFAGS, AND THEORISTS: LYNCH IS AT FULL POWER AND IS COMING FOR YOU
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>>87336028
GOOLD?
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>>87336016
>>87335588
I know this, but I mean why she is she important in the actual plot of the show. Of course she's important in a thematic sense, but what makes her so important that Judy refuses to allow Cooper to save her, why is she so important that Cooper goes to such lengths to save her. For that matter, I thought it was a little funny how Cooper just left Ronette when he went back in time, I know she'll live anyway and I'm sure there's something about Laura that is important that made her the priority, but I just don't know what that something is.
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>>87335237
You know what, maybe that's the point? I might be reaching, but is it possible that the point of the ending was that Cooper had gone too far in trying to save Laura, that he ends up ruining everything and never helped the people who truly needed him? Maybe that's his fatal character flaw.
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>>87336094
what the fuck are you on about mate?
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>>87335687
>Sheriff Truman, Hawk, Andy, Lucy, James, Donna, Laura, Bobby, Mike, Nadine, Ed, Norma, Hank, Leo, Jacques, Jean, Blackie, Jerry, Ben, Audrey, Cole, Albert, Pete, Catherine... haha, they never existed! The joke's on you!
He's aware these are fictional characters, right?
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>>87335493
I liked One Punch Lad, it's just his fight with Bob was silly, his character and backstory was nice still.
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>>87335051
The story of the girl down the lane?
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>>87336350
I still have no idea why the Arm would repeat what Audrey said, and I have a kind of decent grasp on everything else
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>>87336284
That's definitely what I thought. Cooper is a really nice, amicable guy who can use slight supernatural forces to his advantage for small-scale earthly affairs. Through a mix of kindness and human arrogance that he understood the forces of the lodge even slightly he meddled too far into the universe to try and save one insignificant person. When he arrives at the Palmer house and the random woman answers the door he reacts with pure existential horror because he realizes just how badly he fucked up.
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>>87336028
The effects in general looked off for me, and were definitely my biggest issue with the show. At first I just thought it was a stylistic choice, and I thought it worked, but then when stuff like the kid being run over by Richard happened and they looked awful, and there was no reason for it to be stylized on top of it, all of the effects fell apart for me. Their inconsistency didn't help either, Part 8 looking a good bit better than any other episode in terms of its effects.
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>>87336575
they funneled all the cash to sheryl
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Anyone else a bit shook up? I feel like I need to cry but can't. I've woken up at 4 am with a huge sense of dread and a knot in my stomach and can't get that final image of Laura whispering into Cooper's ear as the credits roll out of my head.

I know it sounds gay but this whole thing really feels like it has changed me as a person. I just feel empty.
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>>87336575
Not only that but some episodes even the lighting and cinematography were much better.

Episode 8 and 18 come to mind.
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>>87334531

friend told me make friends with strippers, they have milf friends.
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>>87334365
lewd laura in the pink room
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>>87335051
jesus christ, literally the most horrifying character in the show
she looks like the god damn crypt keeper
>>
ONE FOR THE GRANDKIDS
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>>87335605
>>87335608

Danger man is a campy 60's spy drama among campy 60's spy dramas, and The prisoner is one of the best tv shows ever made.
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>>87336633
I know what you mean anon. I loved the ending but it really freaked me out for some reason and now I just feel hollow and I cannot stop thinking about it.
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>>87336028

pretty obvious tbqh garland is a lodge spirit, and badcoop is being transported to another place hence why he is in that cage thing
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>>87334581
Now that its over, can someone post the leaked descriptions? I never read them
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hey, why not come and join us in the active thread instead of pointlessly replying to posts from hours ago?

>>87336148
>>87336148
>>87336148
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>>87335826
fuck you I laughed
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