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/tpg/ twin peaks general - whisper edition

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Pastabin:
https://pastebin.com/mcKYsFib
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LYNCH FUCKED UP AND YOU ALL KNOW IT
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>>87320236
Showtime won't fund next season.
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>>87320236
>26 years later and we still don't know who killed laura Palmer
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>>87320285
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slowing down now. losing fury. losing momentum.
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Friendly reminder that Joy Divison recorded a song "Interzone". That's means that Booper just want to get out from the dreamworld. (pic is good Booper)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgoBRn2HQDo
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>>87320236
Next time don't make the 'new thread' post so fucking easy to miss, retard.
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>>87320302
"Maybe a movie"
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Hello Buella
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>There are people who are mad about the ending and want a Season 4 because they didn't get to see Audrey Horne one more time
Fucking imagine
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>>87320286
Its all a dream
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>>87320302
This season was hugely profitable for them though.
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>>87320236
friendly reminder that doppelcoop did nothing wrong and Cooper was the real fuck-up the entire time
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WE LIVE INSIDE A MEME
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>>87320345
what the FUCK was her problem?
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>referencing bloodborne when talking about dreams as different planes of existence
>not lovecraft, that bloodborne ripped off
plebs
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>>87320366
well done
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From the moment BOB gets defeated and Coop's face starts to get superimposed over the footage it signaled that the S3 reality of the show is a fabrication, a dream.

Coop knows that SO he without pause exits the scene AND enters the lodge again where MIKE welcomes him with the magician's chant, which conveys to us and Coop that he is now a lodge spirit and can use the full range of abilities the lodge has to offer.

He goes to talk to Phillip and moves to a different part of the "dream". The dream reality is flexible and in flux and can be changed and rippled and so on. He does that but fails to snap Laura out of it. He basically needs for her to exit the dream as well since that solves his particular main task.

He fails at that since another major player (the Experiment) intervenes.

Then he goes back to the lodge to try again. We see him opening curtains with a commanding twirling motion of his hand, suggesting he already knows how to use the lodge magic.

But at this point things are a bit weird.

The two people you see driving at night are Richard and Linda. Richard and Linda drive to a hotel. Linda sees a vision of another version of herself standing by the hotel. This is Linda seeing a vision of Diane, not the other way around. Diane and Coop are trying to enter their world. Then Richard and Linda have sex. When Coop wakes up in a different hotel that is actually the real Cooper.

Sex scene kind of suggests some sex magic ritual since they're so cold and methodical about it, but even afterwards Coop doesn't seem to concerned about where Diane went, like she means nothing to him.

Coop from then on acts like he knows it's all a dream reality and doesn't particularly care about finesse and wants just to get the job done the most efficient way possible.

The end, again, suggests the Experiment trumps his powers and can alter reality faster than Coop can react and anticipate for it.
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>>87320389
Hahahahahaha.
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>it's a fucking dream

i'm done
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>>87320366
nice
can we all agree now that
dougie>doppelcoop>coop
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THERE WERE CARS EVERYWHERE
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>>87320364
Season 4 will be an alternate reality with Based One Punch Lad as Agent Freddie investigating the murder of the daughter of the new owners of the Palmer household.
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>>87320389
source
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>>87320285
>y-you just don't understand his arthouse brilliance!
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Someone answer me this goddammit.

It was a good ending because Laura screamed from remembering. This means Judy's tricks still didn't work, right?
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>>87320415
This would explain why Jeffries has been in hiding and other take hosts while coop is is still trying to seemingly save everyone himself.

Also, for the people still confused about the year. If you were to stop reading this and go to Odessa, Texas right now and look at the sign this is exactly what it would look like. The next population census is in 2020.

Mrs. Tremond is also a lodge spirit. She has the power to override the contents and owner of a house just like her pseudonym, Mrs. Chalfont. The man she was talking to off-screen was her grandson, not some husband.

>Why was she saving them from Sarah Palmer? Sarah Palmer leaked through at the end. The Double R is intact.

Pic related is the moment we are told by Lynch directly that the "reality" of S3 we've seen thus far is a dream. In essence all of the "real world" of Twin Peaks is a dream and you awake from it by going to the lodge and becoming an inhabiting spirit there.

The overall dream is likely dreamt by the Fireman, who was shown to be floating in a passive, sleeping pose while doing his magic stuff.

The Experiment is a nightmare entity intruding upon that dream.

Audrey's situation in S3 is a microcosm of that.
She is existing in her own dream where some entity is providing her with what she needs and keeping her under lock and key, more or less. Once you become aware it's a dream it turns sinister.

Coop, after reaching Odessa, realizes that too. The dream is now friendly, its inhabitants are not worth his time and effort and he needs to simply complete the task to end it.

That's why he's very cautious, why he uses extreme violence against those rude fellas, why he doesn't care about the corpse and why he doesn't really waste time talking to not-Laura - who will wake up screaming at the end of episode.

None of it matters, it's all a fabrication. All he needs to do is snap her out of it and deliver her to the lodge.
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: - ) ALL.
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>>87320407
We all know it's Lovecraftian but Bloodborne has literal examples of the concept.
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>>87320454
>regular cooper under evil cooper
????
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>>87320440
lynched hard
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>>87320364
I bet Bowie would have loved this season.
That wound is never gonna heal.
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>>87320285

The Return was pretty much the perfect love letter to Twin Peaks.

It was weird, it was dark, it was goofy, it pushed the boundaries of what could be done on television, it was filled with references to all the best parts of the original show and FWWM, and "What year is it?" is going to become just as iconic as "How's Annie?"
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>>87320285
nope it was great
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>>87320485
LAURA
REMEMBERING
IS
NOT
A
GOOD
THING
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>>87320485
Who knows. Really, you won't get any concrete answers for this one.
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THINGS THAT DONT AMOUNT TO ANYTHING IN AN INTENTIONALLY DREAMLIKE NARRATIVE FROM A DIRECTOR WHO HAS THROUGHOUT HIS WHOLE CAREER USED THE NATURE OF DREAMS AS HIS INSPIRATION?!?!?! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!

THINGS THAT HAPPEN THAT CAN'T BE EXPLAINED WITH PREDICTABLE LOGICAL RULES IN AN INTENTIONALLY DREAMLIKE NARRATIVE FROM A DIRECTOR WHO HAS THROUGHOUT HIS WHOLE CAREER USED THE NATURE OF DREAMS AS HIS INSPIRATION?!?!?! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!

THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE WHEN CLOSELY EXAMINED IN AN INTENTIONALLY DREAMLIKE NARRATIVE FROM A DIRECTOR WHO HAS THROUGHOUT HIS WHOLE CAREER USED THE NATURE OF DREAMS AS HIS INSPIRATION?!?!?! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!

LYNCH YOU FUCKING HACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>87320440
It's not kike. 98% of s3 isn't a dream
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>>87320236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ddwO_jXP7I
CONFIRMED

I dont know what but its confirmed

>26 years
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Can we die in peace now tpg?
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Who the fuck is that?
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show was mostly boring and pointless.

too smart for me i guess, or what.
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>>87320499
go back to sucking Lynch's microdick
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>>87320485
Well, no and yes.

Good that she is now Laura Palmer.
Knows she lived in a dream.
Can pull herself out of it like Dale Cooper did in the Sheriff's station.

Bad in that her suffering came back to her I guess.
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https://youtu.be/-G-x_jfddis

>FIRST SCENE OF THE WHOLE SERIES
>PLAYS SCRATCH ASSOCIATED WITH JUDY
>IT IS IN OUR HOUSE NOW
>If you watch the owl cave symbol break apart in the final Jeffries scene, it breaks into a seven, zero, and then an eight. The house number of the Palmer residence. This is right after Jeffries tells Cooper where Judy is.
>SARAH PAMLER IS (POSSIBLY) POSSESSED BY JUDY
>WHEN COOP/LAURA GO TO THE HOUSE ITS OWNED BY MRS TREMOND

WHAT DOES IT ALL FUCKING MEAN
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>>87320494
so does lovecraft you pleb

try reading beyond the wall of sleep
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>>87320515
>"What year is it?" is going to become just as iconic as "How's Annie?"
it wont
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>>87320454
richard>dougie>dopplecoop>coop
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>>87320560
What the fuck is up with his belly?
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>>87320561
You're right. Too smart for you.
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>>87320557
No it didn't resolve shit
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>>87320440
They've had this since FWWM. Did you really think Phillip Jeffries was just some nut and not an enlightened individual. He knew we live inside of a dream and this has been clear since FWWM and even earlier.
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>>87320549
Most of his work could be explained though, and had some sort of satisfying conclusion.
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>>87320236
No back lnk. OP you dumb as potatoes.

Meanwhile:
>>87318265
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>>87320485
>This means Judy's tricks still didn't work, right?
Yes I have the same opinion, the Fireman warning Cooper essentialy fucked up Judy's plans of massive brainwash.
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>>87320560
WHO DO YOU THINK THAT IS THERE?
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>>87320584
I have no idea why Coop and Laura were stopped by someone from facing off Judy.

Did Judy run away?
Did Giant do this?
Did Tremond do this in order to protect Coop?

What
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>>87320560
Some guy that Laura killed. Not really important.
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>>87320549
wow man have some bordeaux and chillax
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>>87320584
>If you watch the owl cave symbol break apart in the final Jeffries scene, it breaks into a seven, zero, and then an eight. The house number of the Palmer residence. This is right after Jeffries tells Cooper where Judy is.
People keep saying this, but it really doesn't.
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>>87320498
>didn't do a single thing right
>chose shitty waifus
>hero complex
dale cooper was the villain all along but we were too blind to see it
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>>87320236
Did you faggots really want everything to be fine and Cooper to return back to Las Vegas to cosplay as Dougie?
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>>87320586
I've read it. Jew
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>>87320389
kek there's no way this is true
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dude dreams lmao
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>>87320561
>boring
maybe some of the first half
>pointless
yes
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>>87320643
The fireman warned coop? This was early on in the season?
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>>87320642
Do people actually go back and read through an old thread after a new one has been created?
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>>87320555
But S1, S2 and 95% of S3 have been retconned because Coop altered the timeline anyway
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>>87320632
don't look at the corpse's gut
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>>87320560
bruh his belly looks like evil coops stomach when bob sphere was coming out
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>>87320584
>REMEMBER 430
>RICHARD AND LINDA
>THE SOUND
>TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE
>YOU ARE FAR AWAY

https://youtu.be/QkXMnOLrN4M

The first episode along with the scratching sound in the woods heard with coop/laura have the answers to everything in the finale
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>>87320683
yes
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>>87320515
>the perfect love letter
Yeah
https://youtu.be/CMg47ABzINw
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>>87320664
it's reddit theory garbage, just ignore it
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>>87320710
He warns him in the first scene.
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LYNCH FUCKED US
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>>87320647
J U D Y
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>>87320515
>"What year is it?" is going to become just as iconic as "How's Annie?"
no
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>>87320632
that's creamed corn, judy most likely sent him to rape/possess her but she killed him first
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>>87320699
Tons of new subscriptions, merch being sold all during the series, two soundtracks releasing this Friday and a blu ray release coming. That's profit, bitch.
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I didn't expect a conclusion in the traditional sense but I also didn't expect things to get this dark. My initial reaction is disappointment but at the same time I think Lynch did exactly what he wanted to and he 100% knew how people were going to react to this and I can respect that in a way. I don't know, my mind's all tangled from all this, the ending was absolutely terrifying and left me feeling hopeless.
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>>87320366
I love this, this meme can never die
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>>87320713
Sometimes. Yah.
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WHO
THE
FUCK
IS
JUDY
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now that the dust has settled

http://poal.me/ttqntn
http://poal.me/ttqntn
http://poal.me/ttqntn

http://poal.me/ttqntn
http://poal.me/ttqntn
http://poal.me/ttqntn
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>Cooper: Phillip?
>Phillip: Please, be specific
>Cooper: The date, February 23rd, 1989
>Phillip: I'll find it for ya
>Phillip: It's slippery in here
>Phillip: It's good to see you again, Cooper
>Phillip: Say hello to Gordon if you see him
>Phillip: He'll remember the unofficial version
>Phillip: This is where you find Judy
>Phillip: There may be someone
>Phillip: Did you ask me this?

>Phillip: Cooper remember...
>MIKE: ELECTRICITY
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there is no hope
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>>87320810
we dont talk about judy
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>>87320345

The only reason to watch this shitshow. Well her and Tracy.
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>>87320715
Only one timeline (a new one),the original still exists and the people who say it got destroyed are fucking dumb bc Dougie now exists in that original S1,2,FWWM timeline/reality.
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>>87320406
drugs
ketamine to be exact
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>>87320589
>>87320767
he's right though

ending was crazier than s2
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>>87320331
kek
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>>87320560
Like the Dougie tulpa, Carrie also has her own life, outside of.... being Laura? Or Laura's doppelganger? Or her tupa? Or alternate universe version?
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>>87320236
Post yfw you realize it was actually the Ghost-Foot National Forest all along
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i just feel so silly calling the experiment/mother 'judy', i think it's the most goofy name for a supernatural entity i've seen
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what did they mean by this
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>>87320580
Can someone find out if this is Laura's voice in slow motion? This may be the whisper.
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didn't like the last ep
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>>87320745
Oh, thats right.
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>>87320285
Wrong
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WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT RUDY
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>>87320877
It's actually Jowday.
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Starring Kyle MacLachlan
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>>87320331
This is great
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>>87320491
>tfw one of your posts makes it into the gestalt
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>sheryll fenn, julee cruise, AND michael j anderson all proclaimed "if only you knew the truth" on their social media

So what is this dark secret Lynch seems to be forcing everyone to keep?
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Do I understand it right that Mr.C had no actual plan whatsoever and just tried to make sense of it all (like any Coop would) but through violent means (BOB) which led to his inevitable demise?
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>>87320880
Twin Peak is just a story and it's time for it to end
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>>87320877
Lynch really likes Vertigo
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>>87320892
top kek
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>>87320854

That line doesn't have the same impact. "How's Annie" is repeated with a bloodied manic Coop. Compare that to the other.
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>>87320810

>Judy is Josie's sister
>Naido is the only other Asian woman on the show
>Naido is Diane

Judy is Diane????
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>>87320847
Why does everything turn black after the background Cooper says that they live inside a dream? It's not just an effect, the characters are reacting to the sudden blackness and that's the last we see of them except for Gordon, Diane and Cooper.
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>>87320236
I have a coded message from my log for Vedder fans

>VEDDER FANS PLEASE LISTEN TO THE SOUNDS

https://clyp.it/i40j513z
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>>87320840
Judy is SUBSTANCE
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>>87320908
>not sneaking in the Death Grips shoop
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>>87320415

The same people who are spouting this shit were the ones saying Judy was a female. It's all nonsense. Just accept it.
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>>87320884
Good. Leave plebeian Jew
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Might be the only daring and interesting show on television for a very long time, only The Leftovers rivals it in my eyes
Hope we get a final movie before more people die off
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someone please explain this shit
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>>87320715
That's not how timelines work, you fucking idiot.
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>>87320880
What's the deal with the story of the girl who lived down the lane?
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>>87320854
Yeah, but less people care.
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>>87320236
the mother tries to destroy laura's picture but the photo takes no damage at all. In one timeline, Laura is saved. in another, she finally awakes. Does this mean the good guys won? I love how ambiguous the ending is
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>>87320908
>starring kyle rankings
18>5>8>11>16>1>the rest
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>>87320884
It was fucking kino
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>>87320918
life is hopeless and we're all doomed to relive our failures forever
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>it was all a dream
lynch is a lazy bum lmfao
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>>87320810

The level of Wizard of Oz imagery is pretty inarguable

Small town girl who everyone loves goes to another dimension with little people. Or did she dream it all up? Laura Palmer is clearly Dorothy.

Cooper looses his brain at one point (and his slippers).
Phillip Jeffrey’s has a tin man thing going on.

Floating giant disembodied heads.

The way the woodsman move and operate remind be of the wicked witches monkees. Also isn’t the Tin Man a woodsman?

In episode eight the woodsman put the whole town to sleep, similar to the poppy fields in wizard of oz.

The use of both color, and black and white.

Evil coop is burning at the end which is how the Wicked witch is defeated.

Doggies jacket, looks like it was bought from the emerald city .

Pic related
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>>87320641
it was a satisfying conclusion, you just went in with weird expectations because you read too many reddit theories
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>>87320485
>Judy is the dreamer
"no"
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>>87320838

guise how do we stop meme magic?
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>>87320715
Did you not watch 18 or even Part 17 after the Pete scene?

After the Pete scene they cut straight to Sarah's home, clearly nothing changed to any of them.
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>>87320880
was charlie a sprit meant to keep Audrey's dream in check?
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>>87320954
Ya got me there. But Dougie and Janey E still exist as shown, it's not like only the Mitchum brothers and a few others got dreamt up. So I'm pretty damn sure they all exist, just perhaps in a different reality now. Idk the significance of the fade to black but if you think lol all of s3 was a dream then idk wha to tell you.
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>>87320715
those timelines still exist somewhere. They still exist in cooper and laura
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>there was a sex ritual in TSHOTP involved in trying to summon the "mother of abominations"
>we see the experiment "birth", among other things, BOB, so I assume it's the same as Mother/Judy
>she appears in the box after the teenagers have sex
>Dale and Diane / Richard and Linda having sex at the "end" is clearly being done with a purpose, with Diane miserable and Cooper cold and focused on something
>Cooper then wakes up alone in a completely different hotel

Could the 430 drive and sex scene have been Cooper in the other hotel dreaming/having visions of the rape previously described by Diane, which was being performed by Mr. C to bring Mother into Sarah Palmer?
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>>87321001
Is leftovers really that good? only ones who say it is are super normie it seems.
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>>87320908
5>16>2>18>8>11>13>the rest
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>>87320810
Sarah Palmer, retard.
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Alright I'm done trying to figure this out. I think it is very much like Bloodborne, you can piece things together but some stuff just won't have a definitive answer. That's part of what makes it so fun though, it is mystical.
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>>87321016
For real, what an idiot
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Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder's Out of Sand proved Vedderposters right. (Pic is evil Cooper)
Listen https://youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM
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>>87320236
annyone else loved how happy and enthusiastic the new dougie was?
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>Mother appears in the wake of the explosion
>creates BOB
>BOB + M = BOMB
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>>87321128
It tackles interesting themes for a TV show, and makes you think. Nothing like the surrealist brilliance of TP
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>>87321108
>but if you think lol all of s3 was a dream then idk wha to tell you.
I just don't know what do think anon.
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I just wanted to say that I've enjoyed the new season from beginning to end, and I am glad we all had the opportunity to discuss and enjoy the strange lovechild of Lynch and Frost once more.
It has been a pleasure gentlemen.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to finally go kill myself.
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is this really the end? ;;
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>>87320994
>Judy was a female
well i dunno what you meant by that, i dunno if entities have sexes, but Judy/Experiment/Mother is at least considered to be female, because it possessed a woman, it had breasts, it was referred as the mother of the girl in episode 3 etc
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>>87321156
I still can't believe the very first images to leak were from the very end of episode 18.
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>>87321017
reference to audrey, re watch audrey scenes in s3
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Everyone please disregard the imbecile "it was all a dream" posters. They're just trying to discredit Lynch/Frost's work on s3. They're too lazy/dumb to understand it.
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was it a dream though?
>season 2 ends with cooper fucking up and getting possesed
>season 3 ends with cooper fucking up the timelines and getting stranded as richard
cooper was likely tricked by the spirits
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L Y N C H E D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BixWR4zBtk0
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>>87321127
>REMEMBER 430
https://youtu.be/-G-x_jfddis


the giant/fireman manufactured the reality swap in order to save laura.
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>>87321210

I hope so. I came here to get some closure, and then I'll leave and never think about this shitfest of a show again.
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>>87321229
Yes yes, I meant what did Audrey mean with that.
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>>87321237
It was all a dream doesn't mean it was fake. It means reality itself is a dream that some kind of conscious being (God) dreams up.
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rip /tpg/
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Man it's going to be so strange rewatching Twin Peaks knowing Sarah Palmer is behind it all.
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;_;
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>>87321128
The first season is based on a novel by a good writer, and it's pretty good if you're into mostly character drama, with a metaphysical aspect thrown in.

Seasons 2 and 3 however are all OC from Damon Lindelof, and though he tries to amp up the crazy aspects it never rings as true as that first season.

S1 is worth a watch. Then 2 and 3 if you really liked it. But I wouldn't rate close to The Return.
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Why bring back Badalamenti if you don't bother making use of him?
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>>87321263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs2476Y8Y7I
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>>87321237
GOTALIGHT
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>>87321237
Please disregard the imbecile "it was a great ending" posters. They are just trying to sound smart, but the fact is, they didn't understand it as well.
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The final episode confirms that it is impossible for physical beings in the cannon of TP to die. They can only be trapped outside of time, in other realities or even in other bodies.

While the ending may seem like Cooper lost it infact confirms the opposite. Judy in a last ditch effort to stop cooper from taking Laura to her and excorsising Sarah Palmer/ Banashing Judy's influence from our world, stole Laura and put her in another reality.

Cooper and Diane travel to this world, take over their respective counterparts Richard and Linda so that Cooper can find Laura and bring her back. As long as Cooper doesn't give up it is impossible for Evil to triumph Good as Judy cannot kill him or anyone else thanks to time travel being possible.
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>>87321207
It seems far more likely that there are multiple realities, with some of those perhaps being created by the subconscious dreams of lodge spirits. The only good example of this is Laura's dreamt up Odessa reality, but even that can be argued. I just don't see enough evidence to say all of s3 was a dream, Lynch and Frost aren't that stupid.
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>>87321263
i love it anon
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>>87321263
PRETTAYYY PRETTAYYYY
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>>87321001
>Hope we get a final movie before more people die off
I don't
I hope this is the last we see of Twin Peaks. I wasn't super on-board with the abstract nature of S3 at first but there's something chilling about the finale and how the show just throws away everything that's come before to portray Diane and Cooper and Laura just quietly vanishing one by one into the night

Adding anything more would ruin it. I don't want it to be explained.
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Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder recorded a song that plays during an episode of Twin Peaks. It confirms Agent Cooper never gets his mind back. (Pic is evil Cooper)
Listen https://youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM
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>>87321306
Lynch probably only started with those kinds of ideas when he made FWWM. I don't believe lynch and frost thought this far when they made the original.
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>>87321016
there is no multiverse in twin peaks. There is only one linear timeline that can be altered in the past with the consequence of erasing the known future
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I loved the new series even the ones about the stuff that got unresolved

they were good on their own and hinted at the "twin eaks extended universe".

Hoping for a season 4.

Regads
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>>87321127
Now this is fucking interesting, very nice observation.

It's really fitting because of how strange Cooper looks in the sex scene and how the orders her around a little earlier. Nice work.

I love the Crowley influence in this
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This is pretty funny, desu

https://youtu.be/j8-KTdNdizE
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>Is there someone in the house?
>No. No, just something in the kitchen.

FEAR.JPG
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>>87321296
But you've got redditor idiots claiming it was literally all a dream and Coop or Audrey are the ones fucking doing it and are just sleeping. It all happened.
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>>87321263
Okay that was good
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so here's my read on episode 18 :

>cooper saves Laura from being killed by BOB
>this triggers judy (as seen at the end of ep 17) who reaps Laura in revenge and takes to another dimension
>coop goes to the lodge and the arms tells him about the girl "down the lane", he makes the connection with the 430 number
>goes to the other dimension with Diane
>at this point I guess Diane isn't Diane anymore, note sure what the whole motel scene means
>Carrie is obviously Laura, who has been brainwashed
>in the end, it's not Cooper but Judy who makes Laura snap out, which I guess doesn't indicate a good ending for both protagonists
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>>87321351
They live inside a dream. It is all a dream but the point is that it is still real it is just like pulling back the curtain on reality and seeing the truth. Basically Cooper became ascended at the end but that isn't necessarily good or bad.
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>>87321240
>cooper getting possessed
What the hell, kid.
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>>87321396
explain dougie's scene then. Or sarah scene at the end of ep 17
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So it was all a dream but what about when the fireman takes evil coop and puts him in twin peaks
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>>87321306
She isn't though.
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>>87321386

OH MY GOD NO ONE CARES
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>>87321306
just remember it was JUDY behind it all, she only comes into sarah after she breaks from the glass box, that's why Mr. C built it in the first place
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>>87321307
that line literally makes me cry every time
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She was always so good at blood curdling screams.
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My only complaint from the finale: No woodsmen/bums

>>87321382
I don't want it to be explained either, just more weird nihilism. Guess I'm greedy
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>>87321476
Hahaha You saw...
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>>87321396
The Odessa reality disproves that bud.
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there won't be a season 4
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>>87321416
HELLOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>87321378

bravo
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>>87321367
a ten on all eighteen for me m8
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>>87321388
The dougie fight after the funeral show us even then that Sarah was a malevolent force.

The hose is the white of the eyes, and dark within.
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I liked the weird mechanical noises during Jeffries scenes, creepy as hell
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>>87320877
Goofier than Bob?
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>>87321431
They just don't get it they think living inside of a dream means someone is in bed in the real world dreaming up twin peaks or some shit. Instead I think they were going more for the supernatural side of it where powerful conscious beings dream things into reality. And perhaps there are multiple dreams which are like different dimensions.
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>>87321209
Season 4 is coming anon
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>>87320392
>>87321492
What's the meaning of the clouded eyes?
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What if every character in Twin Peaks is addict?
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>>87321438
Wrong.
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Judy is the dreamer
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>>87321571
it's what dopplegangers look like in the lodge
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>>87321548
Exactly like in Final Fantasy X.
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>>87321476
anti-vedderite
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>>87321350
Cooper woke Laura. It's really difficult to think he didn't win. Remember in ep 17 sarah trying to destroy laura's picture without even putting a dent in it?
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>anons pretending that was a good ending
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>>87321209
>>87321562
“You know about death, Hawk. That it's just a change, not an end"
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>white lodge tricks dopplecoop
>black lodge tricks cooper
twin peaks is all about duality
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How do you feel about this Reddit theory?
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Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder recorded a song that plays during an episode of Twin Peaks. It confirms Agent Cooper never gets his mind back. (pic is Richard)
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>>87321584
You might be on to something here.
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ONE ONE NINE
i wonder what happened to her
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>>87321504
If you think Lynch/this is nihilist you're a fuckhead who needs to stick to Rick and Morty.
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>>87321633
>being a brainlet unable to understand art
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>>87321605
I think he did because I think the dreamers are lodge spirits and Cooper essentially became one. I think the ending sequence was from Cooper's subconscious. I'm still figuring it out though.
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>>87321633
Pleb
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>>87321396
No, there is which is why Richard drove 430 miles to reach it just like the Fireman told him.
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Laura Dern has a really well defined spine
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>>87321545
my brain kinda accepted the bob name, because of his rapist thing you know

now judy being that monster from part 8, it's funny
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>>87320285
this
was it that fucking hard to give a happy ending?
goddamn hack of a director
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>>87321654
I wonder what happened to that screaming asian girl on the floor of the roadhouse
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>>87321616
Only if Yuna got raped by Braska repeatedly.
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>>87321531

bravo, you say?
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>>87321692
>no one has posted her tit yet
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>>87321692
imagine being Kyle in that scene
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fuck me the ending was depressing af
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So when is the last /tpg/?
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So Cooper never too Laura back to his universe/dimension, is this why we see the really long drive to help build the tension for the end?
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>>87320920
I unironically think Mr. C wasn't evil, he just wasn't "good." He was the side of Cooper that he repressed. We never see Mr. C kill anyone except people who try to kill him/pose a threat.
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>>87321725
it was surprisingly good for being like 90 years old
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If Diane and Cooper just didn't have sex,all this could've been avoided.
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>>87321663
the end felt nihilistic. Whatever Coop did, he was still doomed to fail by forces way above his control, fate, Judy, parallel universes.
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So Audrey was in a coma yeah?
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>>87321705
>A show about a man repeatedly raping and finally murdering his daughter and niece doesn't have a happy and straightforward ending
What a HACK!!!!!
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guys

guys

what if twin peaks, is a tv show
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>>87321705
Because life always has a happy ending right
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>>87321512
kek
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>>87321736
Nope
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>>87321727
Someone has to make a Kyle edit like the arnold pasta. I know people already did it with Vedder.
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>>87321767
I feel like Diane as a whole was kind of a useless character.
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I just watched the finale. I understand nothing.
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So basically cooper fucked up again like in season 2?
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>>87321649
top kek
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>>87321716
she probably stood back up eventually nomsayin lol
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>Carrie shot someone with an assault rifle in her home, likely someone she knew given how comfortably he was seated
>she presumed Coop was visiting her to talk about the whereabouts of a specific unnamed person
>she let the phone ring on the way out

Should we be giving any weight to any of this? Is Carrie self-aware of her existence in whatever dimension/dream she's in and trying to ward off agents of Judy's attempting to remove her?
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>>87321763
JUDY took Laura Palmer to nothearuniverse.
COOPER went to notheruniverse to bring Laura Palmer back to heruniverse while BTFO'ing Judy (season 4)
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>>87321727
haha that would be crazy
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>>87321764
he killed the wife of that scooby doo guy for no reason
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>>87321621
Yes, that's one of the things that really stood out to me. Judy, no matter how powerful she may be, no matter how influencing she is with her thralls (BOB and maybe MIKE before finding god), no matter if she actually has laura palmer killed is in the end unable to truly kill Laura Palmer.

I find it fitting it is the prom photo too. It's very symbolic to laura being this bastion of love and hope in the series, the polar opposite of her parents.
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>>87321793
tpg thread have gotten a lot faster after the finale

See you tomorrow to discuss the ending, and see you in the pre season 4 threads
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>>87321779
whoa
big if true
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>>87321725
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Laura after she found out her mother is a cunt(ry)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdKAFCZHbks
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>>87321819
Yes he went to bring her back, but never crossed over back for some reason.
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>>87321826
>Laura bastion of hope and love.
>was a degenerate druggie and whore IRL

lel
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S E A S O N 4
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>>87321797
Yeah I have to agree. I think David was just desperate to have Laura Dern work with him again.
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>>87320778
Underrated reasonable post
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>mfw everyone is way overthinking this ending

Cooper went too far in trying to save Laura and screwed things up. Her story was resolved and she didn't need saving. He ought to have stopped when BOB/Mr. C was killed and things would've ended well.
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>>87321872
I S N O M O R E
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It's amazing how one ending can have so many people with so different opinions. Lynch really is a genius.
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>>87321716
Probably was just autism or something.
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tpg got lynched
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Holy shit guys I got it.

Something (either the fireman or the mother) brought Cooper and laura in to OUR reality. As in real life reality. Hence why the owner of laura palmer's house is the real owner of the palmer house. Hence why the double r diner is still intact. Hence why there is no twin peaks sign. Hence why everything is played completely straight. No music. No dreamlike stuff (other than the ending but that is to imply that the lodge spirits are real).
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>>87321797
She was. I don't get why she was the one to travel with Coop and what their relationship was. It seems like Lynch just wanted Laura Dern in there and that's the reason alone.
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>>87321868
Due to being molested as a child and living in a town that had been under the influence of Judy. Laura is a symbol of innocence and love, that doesn't mean she still can't be curropted.
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i wonder how much input frost had on the finale, it felt 100% mulholland drive
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>>87321942
>Lynch's true goal was to get people to think for themselves instead of following the popular opinion.
>to do this he made the ending as bleak and hopeless as possible
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>>87321987
Mother of fucking God you nailed it
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>>87321987
>Hence why the owner of laura palmer's house is the real owner of the palmer house
then why didn't they just use their real names instead of tremond
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>>87321987
The owner of the house isn't the IRL owner. It's the IRL owner acting in the role of Tremond/ a white lodge spirit.
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>>87321774

You can look at it another way.

A virtuous man entered a place where spirits reside, forged alliances with them and overcame adversity in order to elevate his existence.
After the ordeal at the sheriff's office he enters the lodge again and MIKE greets him with the magician's chant, signaling he has full access to the lodge and its power at his disposal.
They then go to Phillip and take a note of something.
When Mr C was there he had to be escorted by a woodsman and the room where Phillip resides needed to be unlocked.
No such thing for Cooper, he walks in with MIKE at his side and noone stands in his way.
He also now strides through the "waiting room" of the lodge with confidence and goes in and out unimpeded.

Basically Cooper ascended to full lodge spirit status and is now using his new knowledge and abilities to help Laura. Except this time instead of fighting against BOB and his doppelganger he is powerful enough to take on Judy.
It might not be an easy fight but he's way more capable now than he's ever been.
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>>87321987
>Hence why the owner of laura palmer's house is the real owner of the palmer house.
She's not called Alice Tremond you know.
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IT WAS ALL A DREAM
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>>87322068
>tremond
>white lodge
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CUTIES!
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>>87321416
>Not including "fuck gene kelly you motherfucker"

Wow, that wasted potential.
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Did anyone else think the diner in episode 18 was the same one from Mullholand Drive? I almost shat myself.
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Did anyone else feel like the Palmer's house at the end was some sort of illusion? The way the lady behind the door was being instructed by someone just out of sight felt very off putting, like she was a puppet.
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>>87321987
this but unironically
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>>87321987
nigga you got nothing
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>>87321286
Who knows. Lynch probably doesn't even know.
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>>87322096
Who do I have to sacrifice to age as well as Lynch and Kyle?
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Anyone else feel like thinking of an explanation is just futile?
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The times they are a-telling,
and the changing isn't free
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>>87322122

the man behind the curtain. Very wizard of oz.
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>>87322123
wuts with the horse
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>>87322107
I watched the scene to check and I don't think so, although doesn't the diner pop up in FWWM?
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>>87322023
except the universe switching in MD provides a clear answer to everything, here it just makes everything more muddled and confusing.
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>>87322096
>that dougie suit
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>>87322150
yeah but is fun
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Just watched the last episode. Correct me if Im wrong.
They've beaten the evil.
Cooper can even save Laura by sending her in an other reality where she's been given an other life.
Diane and Coop also cross to that other reality (for whatever reason).
Creepy sex.
Diane left a note with different names because they're also different people here.
Cooper goes find Laura Palmer, brings her to Twin Peaks and she screams in horror because by seeing her old house she remembers the nightmare went through.
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>>87321987
there's no Twin Peaks in real life
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>>87322122
I would go as far to say that Cooper never left the lodge. Since in S1 & 2 we never saw any super natural spoopy shit.
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>>87320285

Brainlet detected

>"OOGABOOGA DIS AINT LIEK MUH NORMAL TEEVEE OOGABOOGA OOGABOOGA, CAN'T MAKE ANY GOOD REDDIT MEMES OUT OF DIS SHOW OOGABOOGA"

It's as if Lynch single-handedly separated the true intellects from the pretenders last night.
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>>87322170
The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within.
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>>87321987
I thought so at first too, but if Lynch really wanted to imply our reality, he'd probably used actors real names too
And Mrs. Chalmont reference is very clear to indicate the fake nature of this encounter.
It's still a fake reality, just more grounded to fool the dreamer
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>>87322123
Isn't this the house where Cole almost got LODGED and where Shaggy got killed?
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>>87320892
Heeeey this isn't Texas at all!!!
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Imagine being Kyle in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Laura Dern, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and horrific protruding monster spine. I would totally have sex with you, both my doppelgänger and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck 16 year old Audrey in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Kyle and not only lie in that bed while Laura Dern flaunts her disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her inch long nipples and leathery skin, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while she perfected that grind. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone on set tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, LAURA DERN LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to lie there and watch her mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of blondes and lodge spirits and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Washington. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to lie there and revel in her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then Lynch calls for another take, and you know you could kill every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Kyle MacLachlan. You're not going to lose your future FBI career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>87322175
Well yeah I know now that it isn't but when I first saw it I got excited.
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>>87322170
throwback to the pale horse sarah sees in season 2

its the pale horse of death.
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The over-sweet and perfect conclusion in E17 started to feel alien and wrong the moment Cooper's face became superimposed over the scene. Extremely artificial-feeling and dreamlike.

The events of the final episode had the qualities of a dream, but even if it was really happening, the only other realistic interpretation is that Cooper is stuck out of time, and likely deleted his own timeline, undoing every experience, eliminating every conversation and connection he's ever made.

It could only have been a bad ending. Cooper has seen too much and has gone too far. There could never have been a cute outro of Albert, Cooper and Gordon having coffee and pie and reflecting on their experiences, but this seems like the bleakest possible outcome.
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>>87321987
You're so fucking stupid. Good god.
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>>87320560

Looks like Bob to me.
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>>87321083
>Wicked witch is destroyed by fire
Literally the exact opposite is true
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>>87322122
yes man, read the thread, the entire reality was fabricated by judy, everyone has different names, the tremonds/chalfonts were always puppets to higher lodge entities
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terrible ending
boring and explained nothing
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>>87320908
>the credit syncs up with the tone of the song
BASED

especially liked it when the credit synced up with the chorus of hustle bones
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>>87322150
The explanation is easy, anon. Cooper went too far in trying to save Laura. The big bad in the form of BOB/Mr. C was defeated and Cooper had a chance to go on with life. Laura's story was already complete. Cooper attempting to change history itself turned back around on him, even if he succeeded in bringing Laura Palmer back to life through lodge magic.
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>>87322197
>Cooper goes find Laura Palmer, brings her to Twin Peaks and she screams in horror because by seeing her old house she remembers the nightmare went through.

Except we never see Cooper and Laura cross back over into their reality in that incredibly long car journey.
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>>87322150
>>87322188
There will never be an "official" explanation so to speak. Lynch/Frost originally never wanted to reveal the Palmer Murder. This is them getting what they wanted. We'll never find out what was whispered or 100% what happened in the end. It's all about the mystery bros.
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>>87322212
>>87322198
>>87322084
>>87322068
>>87322043
Lynch is implying that our reality is another dream. Hence, "We are living in a dream, but who is the dreamer"
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>>87321705
If you knew anything about Lynch going into this, you should've known better than to expect a happy ending.
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>>87322237
P L E B
L
E
B
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>FWWM shows how the past affects the Future and how the Future affects the past
>The Black Lodge ruling itself outside of the Time-Space Continuum
>"see you in 25 years"
>Major Briggs body unaffected by time
>Scenes showing Cooper traveling into the past
>Future changed after saving Laura
>"WHICH YEAR IS IT?"

>"HURR DURR IT WAS ALL A DREAM, NOT A TIME TRAVEL"

Stop being retarded.
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>>87320366
this is actually true
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Why did Gordon see Laura when he opened the door that one time? When he said he had a confession, I thought it was that his see's Laura.
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>>87320285
He was never going to give a happy straight forward ending, lmfao suckers. He purposefully made it confusing and dark to make you all think he's a genius.
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>>87321571
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>>87322076
interesting. Interpretations will vary based on what kind of life each spectator is having. I saw Coop as unmoored in time and place, truly lost even as Laura starts remembering in the end. Even if he acquired this great power, it seems to me he used it poorly by trying to change the past

Also, I think an important part of Season 3 might be the question "Who is the dreamer?"
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>>87322182
Mulholland Drive isn't exactly the first fucking movie I reach for when I want "a clear answer to everything", Anon
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>>87320236
Been at work all day.

Still fucking depressed. Coop had a hard life.
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>>87320908
Gas station with Big Ed is the most kino
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>>87322096
Who /Phil/ here?
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>>87322327
NEW THREA>>87322327
NEW THREA>>87322327
NEW THREA>>87322327
NEW THREA
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Is the owner of the house being named Tremond a "nod" to the old world like the white horse in Carrie Page's house was, or is there more to it? When I first heard Tremond I thought the magician son maybe fucked Cooper over.
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>>87320668
This
>not fucking Audrey
>thinking hes special and has the audacity to try to save Laura
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>>87320313

Mike killed her.
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>>87322218
lmfao
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>>87322290
>ignoring all the arguments in favor of it being a dream
So Cooper's superimposed face saying "We live inside a dream" meant nothing then?
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>>87322225
>the moment Cooper's face became superimposed over the scene

This shit, this is when Cooper lost part of his personality, as if he just realised hes still in the lodge and he become all depressed but continues regardless.
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>>87322237
L Y N C H E D
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E
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>>87322359
no bobby killed mike when laura was still alive
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I don't know why I expected a coherent ending.

Fuck this shit next time I will just record my own dreams and film them see how he likes it.
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>>87322068
>a white lodge spirit.
>implying
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>>87322259
Thats my point.
They didnt go back to their reality.
That's why someone else is in the Palmers house.
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>>87321184
The mother is the explosion. She is destruction, annihilation. Bob is her offspring. He is slow corruption, defilement, radiation fallout.
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>>87322366

>He doesn't get it

By deleting his timeline his memories became a "fantasy" as they don't exist in the new world's history.
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>>87322146

I too thought this
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>>87322223
actually the white horse represents conquest in biblical context
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>>87322328
Yeah Lynch just shat all over him. 25 years wasted for nothing, and then trapped in another dimension. Way to say a fuck you to fans.
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>>87322366
I think people are misunderstanding things.
Not a dream as in you dream when you sleep.

But a Dream as in reality is all about your personal perspective.
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>>87322471
He didn't say fantasy he said dream. How do you explain Audrey then? She is clearly in a dream world. She is the girl down the lane, someone who is in a similar situation as Cooper.
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>>87322515
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>>87320481
I just argued with a friend and that was one of his arguments.
His other argument was that you need the endurance and experience with this kind of material to appreciate it.

Suffering through the long boring parts makes him a better person than others, in his view. It's the modern, couchpotato version of nietzsche's slave logic.
As much as he would like to feel like an intellectual for liking Lynch, he wouldn't get that reference. That idiot couldn't finish high school. Why am I still talking to him?
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>white horse
>Stone Ocean ending

Lynch is a hack
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>>87322543
Nice font, retard
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>>87322328
He fucked a young Heather Graham, Naomi Watts, Laura Dern and younger Sherilyn Fenn... can't be all that bad.
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>>87322213
They look similar, but probs not. Besides, one is in Buckhorn and the other is in Odessa
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>>87322461
And yet nobody is talking about this.

We saw the long car journey but why didnt Cooper register they didnt cross back over....
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THESE THREADS ARE TOO FAST
SLOW THEM DOWN
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>>87322218
Jesus christ
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>>87322562

>White hourse
>Maid in heaven is a white horse

Holy shit the more /tv/ tries to explain the ending, the more it relates to Jojo
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>>87322324
Because you are dumb, Mulholland Drive explained nearly everything pretty well, even Lost Highway did to some extent. This however is nearly incomprehensible
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>>87322555
>Suffering through the long boring parts makes him a better person than others, in his view.
sounds like you're making that assumption yourself desu, i can't think of many people i know irl who would suffer through anything just to appear "intellectual" but maybe that sort of pretentiousness just isn't common around here
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>>87322534

Dreams are fantasies.
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>>87322555
He's right though. If you haven't developed your taste then I guess you would find s3 boring or unnecessary at times. It's okay to have shit taste anon.
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>>87322543
OH SHIT
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>>87322028
people will always try and make a happy ending out of a bad one
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>>87321987
This pretty much this. The ending is straight forward about it. The camera, the way they filmed it, the acting it's all in our reality. Everything before that is one big dream. Hell, after the bad Cooper is dead it gets told right in your fucking face.
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>>87322515
>implying the dougie arc wasn't lynch giving coop the chance to settle down with a loving family, a satisfying, normal job and friends who buy your child a gym set and restock your house for you
>implying coop didn't bring about his own tragic position by throwing the perfect life away on the off-chance he might be able to save laura because he thinks he's some sort of time-travelling lodge wizard when really he hasn't got a fucking clue
sorry dude, but coop had it coming.
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>the story of Dale Cooper's return to Twin Peaks
>real Coop exists and is in Twin Peaks for half of one episode, then leaves
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>>87320236
Are you redditor retards really still talking about this pointless show? Time to start banning these generals, mods.
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>>87322585
Maybe Cooper is completely confused.
He only realizes something's off at the very end by asking which year it is.
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>>87323008
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>>87321835
that's a big nipple. was it dern's or was she using a body double?
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>>87323008

I love this show but this comment made me laugh so hard for some reason
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>>87323069
No, seriously, the show was one huge nothing. There's nothing to discuss and since the quality of posts is SO important to the moderators, these threads should be deleted since they're basically just circlejerks for people who need pretend internet friends and acceptance.
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>>87323069
WHAT THE HELL??
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>>87323069
>>87323323
>violations of global rule 3
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>>87323323
HOW IN THE WORLD
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>>87323323
also
>that font
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Cooper cooking deep fried guns was the most American thing ever.
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>>87322819
>>87323344
>>87323412
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>>87323070
It's hers, not a double
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>>87323534
WHY?
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>>87322122
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>>87322555
>Suffering through the long boring parts makes him a better person than others, in his view
It's true, as it increases his patience
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So, maybe, it's about how things can't be fixed. Entropy and all that. 'The return', repetition, that's impossible. Cooper returning, back in time, to grab Laura in the woods didn't happen. That was the dream, constantly alluded to, a long dream he woke up from. (Coop, then, is the dreamer.)

He follows the clues he heard in this dream. Drives 430 miles to Odessa. Follows the signs that say Judy. Eventually starts upon Carrie Page, who bears a striking resemblance to Laura. But it's not really her (and this is why Laura and Carrie are different characters in the credits). But she's looking to escape, so she joins Coop anyway. Yet it's 2017 and Sarah Palmer hasn't lived in that house for a long, long time.. And Laura's still dead.

But then again, there's that voice and the scream..
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>It's just Mulholland Drive but 18 hours long and not as good

MASTERPIECE, LYNCH DOES IT AGAIN
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>>87322122
Yeah, she's Mrs. Tremond or a familiar of hers. She's done this thing already in S2.
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