/Manson/

first for based idris

>>84949573
Emile Hirsch as Manson.

>>84949573
I've always found the Manson case interesting because if it hadn't happened in Hollywood and involved celebrities, it would most likely be a mostly forgotten footnote.

Uma Thurman as Sharon Tate

Didn't Sharon Tate's sister say in an interview that she'd prefer Margot Robbie to JLaw because JLaw isn't pretty enough

>>84949573
jesse eisenberg as manson

>>84950082
yes but why does this interest you? it's useless to examine these murders in a vacuum since manson did have aspirations in the entertainment industry and i don't think their targets were just random people. i believe it was to get back at a producer who thought manson wasn't good enough for the music industry. i think the producer worked with tate or polanski

point is celebrity and fame is a huge part of the story

>>84950165
She might be a bit too old now but Sienna Miller would have been perfect.

>>84949573
you think tarantula is gonna make a character study? he will change the story to make it about manson being a closet bbc lover who got spiteful for being rejected by a big black man, will say nigger a lot, and will have at least 6 hyper violent shoot outs

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How tall was Manson really? The internet says 1,57 m but I'm not sure if I believe that. I don't think I've ever seen an adult male that short in real life.

This film will be terrible like all Tarantino's films.

>>84949573
>Do you think he'll be able to capture the ethos of California's transition from the happy go lucky high hippy times of the late 60s to the hangover/sobering up of the early 70s in his Manson film?

No, it will just be another shitty, edgy violence porn cursefest b-movie like Natural Born Killers. Cuckoldino is a hack and can't go beyond shallow banalities.

>>84950316
Yeah 5'2" seems extremely short. I'd guess he was closer to Elijah Wood's height which is still pretty short with a small frame.

>>84950316
Why else do you think a white man would kill people?

White people literally kill due to an inferiority complex.

>>84950165
Sharon Tate was good looking unlike that deformed slut Uma.

>>84950364
He didn't really kill anyone though. And why do blacks kill people?

>>84950306
>will say nigger a lot

Well Manson did preach about a race war between blacks and whites.

>>84950364

fuck off nigger

>>84949573
>Turning this into a general because there's been too many of these threads lately.

lol that's not how 4chan works kiddo, back to the Reddit

>>84950250
Polanksi's wife got killed because of a mix up. The cultists were supposed to kill a producer that didn't like Manson's stuff but the producer rented his house to Roman Polanski's friends. That's how Sharon Tate got killed.

>>84949729
Yes! Perfect!

>>84950364
Lol nigger

>>84950316
Further proof that manlets are incapable of empathy and should be preventively killed

>>84949573
no, QT is a fucking manchild and he's not going to do the story justice

>>84950207
Source?

>>84949573

When did he become evil Dale Cooper?

What do want in the soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeUWlKc0-tE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffZ4aOXcGR8

>>84951198
Helter Skelter cover by The 69 Eyes

You know it will happen

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What's a good Manson documentary for someone who doesn't know the story?

>>84951359
lexi is a goddess

>>84951359
just read helter skelter

>>84951198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcTVVUFnKQ

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>>84951359
me on the right

https://youtu.be/NY0sWIzQmo8

>>84951436
Should be the opening credits.

>>84951397
>>84951527
gonna check these out

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>>84949573
>he looks like Evil Cooper

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why haven't you taken the manson redpill, /tv/?

https://youtu.be/1g0vHuD8fDE
https://youtu.be/ctt7PiAfqOA

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>>84949573
It will be a story about a Black Panther type organisation taking down the Manson family and putting a stop to the race war Manson envisioned through Helter Skelter.

cap this.

>>84951858
Jesus Christ, shut up.

>>84949573
poor Tarantula, a scene has already been leaked, will this guy ever catch a break?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjWZ_VUZamo

>>84951070
jesus use google, fuck off my board, reddit

>>84951436
>song begins
>shaky montage of people laughing and smiling
>shots of manson playing guitar and being loved by his family
>the sun goes down
>0:50 = either put the title on the screen in impact font or show a blood splatter
>rest of the trailer is people running and police lights and jail interviews, capturing the transition from free love and haight ashbury love to nationwide paranoia and nixon blah

there you go QT i made your trailer for you

>>84952295
i hope you're not in film school

>>84949573
He looks like evil cooper from twin peaks the return

>>84950306
Sign me in.

>>84952697
No, go away

>>84951637
That man is so ugly it's no surprise he's "le redpill man"

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>>84949573
>People are seriously not getting that Manson will be played by Tarantino himself

>>84951637
lmao literally the face of /pol/

OH REALLY IS IT A GENERAL NOW?

>>84953083
Meta

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>>84949573
Cant see a better director to do this. He"'s great at capturing he meme version of time periods but also not making it the main point of the film. And imagine the 'tipping or royale burger conversasions' this film will have. Flickmaster Tarantino will be at his best I think. Magnum opus?

>>84953369
>>84953418
lmao look at this fucking loser editing his shitty post

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>>84953483
>he noticed

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>>84949573
>it's a symbol of peace

>>84949573
I think he wont capture any type of so called transformation correctly. He never could, not even in fictional stories he's made up.

Or maybe he'll pull it off just fine since I feel he's transitioning himself. I think he's gone altright and that's what inspired him to take on this project. Yeah, he may have been bitten by the /pol/bug and got nazipilled

>>84953615
It's all good buddy, iktf
I did the same 5 minutes ago, these things happen. I'm just happy I'm the only one who's fucking up today

>>84953766
>Or maybe he'll pull it off just fine since I feel he's transitioning himself. I think he's gone altright and that's what inspired him to take on this project. Yeah, he may have been bitten by the /pol/bug and got nazipilled
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>84951198
Some tune by the Beach Boys.

what is /tv/'s thoughts on Charles Manson Superstar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGIz7nBdhqQ

It really made me think, to be honest. Definitely very strange. Why did they have it out for Manson so hard?

>>84951637

>it's a pseudo-intellectual, greasy, pale, skinny, edgy white guy episode

Why is the internet so full of these fucks? He's probably some incel faggot as well.

Can we expect feet? And if so, whose toes?

>>84952295
it isnt inherent vice

>>84950364
He got people to kill for him.

>>84954969
>being this bluepilled

>>84949573
GARMONBOZIA

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>>84949573
Is he gonna include the fact that Manson auditioned for a part in The Monkees.

>>84955005
whats the story then mr redpill

>>84955134
watch charles manson superstar posted above

>>84955187
im not going to listen to that low test voice for 2 hours

>>84950221
Please no.

>>84955286
>im a cuck!
yes, we can see

>>84950568
This really isn't the site for you.

>>84954324
15mins in. He sounds like a blue collar Dr. Lecter. "You dig wa I'm sayin?" Not really, Charlie.

>>84950526
>>84950606
kys

>>84955962
He's definitely insane by that point, after years and years of solitary. If he ever was "sane" to begin with.

people are still glorifying this retard?

I know a guy named lee manson, he's crazy as fuck and wears a poncho and I think they might be related

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I GIVE YOU..

CHARLES MANSON

>>84949573
Tarentino doesn't make movies about life. He makes movies about movies. Learn 2 meta-discourse.

>>84949573
So I see he gave up on writing.

>>84956561
itd work

>>84952963
>>84953033
>>84954569
he's also a degenerate drug user

>>84956021
Yeah, he sounds like a guy from an old "Cops" episode they would pick up on a domestic disturbance at a house with no phone.

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Note to Tarantino: roll tape

>>84951359
>lexi as negan

I didn't know I wanted this

>>84950250
it was payback for a producer
that, and to spark a race war
he had them leave watermelon rinds at the scene of the crime to make it look like a jigaboo had carried out the murders
also he had the murders carried out in the same way as one of his family who had been arrested. the thought being that the police would assume that the killer was still on the loose and that theyd arrested the wrong man

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>>84951359

>>84951858
i could see this happening
hes definitely going to pull an inglorious basterds with the source material
>>84951880
whats your problem, petal?

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>>84951637
>Charles Manson wasn't a racist
>goes on to say that he was in the Aryan Brotherhood

>>84957024
>>84954569
>>84953033
>>84952963
same fag

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>>84958404

>>84958180
If you believe there's going to be a race war, might as well get protection from the side that'll protect you and already cares about race wars. They didn't even think he was racist enough to stay so they kicked him.

>>84951359
God lexi has such cute features. Why do they always fuck it up with caked makeup in her scenes?

>>84951359
Read Manson in his own words, its pretty self indulgent but he talks a lot about how the media have turned him into a circus show they can constantly withdraw money for, and given how despicable the media is it's all pretty believable.
Sort of wish they'd give the bloke a break but now they've got this cock sucker making a movie about him it's just gonna get ten times worse.

holy fuck /tv/ it just hit me

this is tarantino's last film. OUR tarantino. not only is it /ourguy/'s last film but its literally about the manson murders

it's going to be hella f*cking epic

>>84956561
Too old by a decade.

Manson has said he didn't want to start a race war he just needed a distraction from a murder he thought he'd carried out, all this prime time tv trash is just nonsense and he was on the receiving end of a media witch hunt which clearly isn't over now this low life liberal freak has his paws on the 'material'. I thought this guy had already been given too much of a name but now he's literally going to transcend into a Hitler type super villain by oh yes you guessed it the fucking kikes!!!!!!
Fuck tarintino and fuck Hollywood.

>>84958843
It's not his last movie, he said he will make 10 movies and after that he will take his retirement.

>>84958913
breathe, pussy

>>84958913
I didn't know you get internet in prison, Charlie

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>>84950566
There are a series of unsolved murders of which the Manson Family remain suspects.

>>84958979
Your mum takes it up the arse from niggers and your dad hates you/himself

>>84950487
Same reason.

>>84958913
What if Tarantino has done a 180 and will now do pro-white films with subtle racist undertones
Like Christopher Nolan, maybe they got together and he swayed his views

>>84958913
Doesn't matter what he said later. His bullshit helter skelter racewar thing is what he was claiming at the time.

>>84955055
Urban legend, not true.

>>84953961
No way. The Beach Boys would never license any of their music to a Manson biopic. They're still deeply embarrassed by their connection to him.

>>84959055
Does Nolan do that?

>>84959332
Have you seen Interstellar?

>>84959322
Some of them have died and with a juicy enough royalty the surviving members, in their age will not give a fuck about what others think

>>84959386
I'm not that anon but I managed to watch all of that bore called 'Interstellar'. I didn't notice the "subtle racist undertones". Can you enlighten me?

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>>84949573
Plisken as old guy manson

>>84959554
Kurt Russell was the same age as young Manson in that movie...

>>84959537
You didn't notice anything during the part where they're discussing the detour they were going to take

Like right before they set off and ran into Matt and what transpired afterward

>>84959625
*Matt Damon

>>84959532
Doesn't matter. Mike Love is super conservative and always hated how Manson tarnished the bands family friendly image. He would never allow this and he's basically in charge at this point.

>>84957159
>he had them leave watermelon rinds at the scene of the crime to make it look like a jigaboo had carried out the murders
There weren't any watermelon rinds but it's true Manson and his brainwashed sluts did try to pin the blame on the Black Panthers multiple times.

They wrote general discourse and slurs involving the word "pigs" to spark a Black/Cop race war

>>84958934
He's already directed 10 movies.

it will be shit

>>84959795
Then name them, I'm curious.

>>84959880
(not including the 3-4 films he's co-directed)

Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Jackie Brown
Kill Bill 1
Kill Bill 2
Death Proof
Inglorious Basterds
Django Unchained
The Hateful Eight
... and this upcoming Manson flick.

So I guess he's done after this one.

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>>84959977
YES!

>>84959977
He considers both volumes of Kill Bill as the same film (Which kinda makes sense seeing how they were initially going to be a single film), meaning he's still likely going to have one last film after the Manson one.

>>84960116
Who's that guy?

>>84960240
French actor that danced down the carpet at Cannes, a year later Tarantino does they same thing.
Forget his name.

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>>84960219
Fuck!

>>84959055
except tarantino doesn't make 'anti-white' films

>>84960301
Jesus Christ, even his own life is a collage of stolen material.

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>>84957083
This.

Don't care for his politics but this nigga looks just like him and is fucking crazy. He Will Not Divide Us was literally a brainwashing art project that gave Shia mindless drones to control chanting the same mantra for hours on end.

He's fucking perfect for Manson.

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>>84960240
Aki Kaurismaki
@0:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcs3sottHm4
>>84961052
KEK, but lots of people dance at Cannes.

>>84961891
why is he so fucking weird bros

is it because he was born ugly? how do people become this autistic/weird? chicken or the egg?

would he be a well adjusted person if he looked less weird?

>>84961891
ha ha he is just the worst isn't he?

I hope it's as historically accurate as Django and Basterds

That is to say, I hope it's not historically accurate at all.

>>84962428
why

>>84962486
Because reality is boring. I hope he stylizes it.

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>>84959178
Checked true..
>>84962549
I’m sure you all know the story behind Dennis Wilson and his relationship with Charles Manson. The Beach Boys drummer struck up quite a friendship with Manson and the family, going so far as to record one of their songs, “Cease To Exist,” under the name “Never Learn Not To Love.”

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MC Ride probably can't wait for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcTVVUFnKQ

>>84962729
Dennis Wilson also paid for the Manson girls to be treated for gonorrhea and various other STDs. Kek.

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>>84962838
Da Fuk
It wasn’t long after this that Wilson moved away, leaving the Manson family to inhabit his home while facing eviction and committing murder.

>>84950364
>>84956008

Fucking nigger

>>84962965
The primary murders were committed while they were living at Spahn Ranch. Btw you can go to the former site where the family used to live but all the old buildings burned down a long time ago. The ranch is now part of Santa Susanna Pass park in Los Angeles.

>>84949573
>the hangover/sobering up

The reason this film is going to be bad, or could be good, relates to whether Tarantino depicts the circus around Manson accurately or not. The vilification of hippies by the mainstream media was constant in the late sixties, and Manson provided them with the story they needed. If Tarantino wanted to make a film about how Manson was used for propaganda purposes by California Republicans, that would be a hell of a contribution and go some way towards redeeming his sorry-ass career. But I don't expect that.

>>84950364
True, it's usually due to their short dicks

>>84960116
This performance by Kaurismaki is more committed to being weird, too. Tarantino's dancing is the Weinstein-approved, cut version, cutting off rather than risk seeming really uncool and demented, whereas Kaurismaki - a great filmmaker, check out The Match Factory Girl and Leningrad Cowboys Go America, the guy's hilarious - continues amusing himself by acting genuinely unhinged.

>>84963173
what are you expecting? the helter skelter blue pilled crazy hippies on lsd story to be depicted?

>>84959090
Nope. Helter Skelter was entirely an invention of the main prosecutor. The murders were committed by people from Manson's "family" who were on speed, not acid, led by a recidivist criminal who would have been in deeper shit if he hadn't been able to claim diminished responsibility. If you look at the evidence, Manson's guilt only makes sense if you believe in hypnotism. In 1969 in California, square white people did believe that of hippies and LSD, so Manson goes down for shit he never did, done by people on the wrong drug anyway, one of whom had been a thug long before he met Manson.

>>84949573
what happened to killer crows?

>>84963419
It was definitely not invented by the prosecution. Also, source on them doing speed? Are you trying to claim that they never used LSD?

>Do you think he'll be able to capture the ethos of California's transition from the happy go lucky high hippy times of the late 60s to the hangover/sobering up of the early 70s in his Manson film?

No.

>Will he be able to capture the intricacies of cult mentality, isolation, and the horrors that the human mind is capable of?

Nope.

>Or will he just cast a black man as the cop and make it about race with a couple of scenes of unnecessarily grotesque violence interspliced with shots of j-law's feet?

Most-likely, aside from Jlaw not being in it.

>>84952295
>the transition from free love and haight ashbury love to nationwide paranoia and nixon blah

There was no such transition. The paranoia happened during the free love Haight-Ashbury period, and the Manson killings were used to justify it. Hippies were being targeted and abused by law enforcement long before Manson gave them a plausible excuse - Manson was turned into that kind of excuse only because the paranoia was already present.

>>84963419
>so Manson goes down for shit he never did

He went down for aiding in the murders, not for actually murdering people -- since he, y'know, didn't kill anyone.

If you drive people to places in order for them to commit crimes, you're aiding them. It's quite simple.

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>>84963121 You know all this, but here goes.
Helter Skelter, 1974 book, turned into TV movie in 1976, then a Movie in 2004,

And another Movie, in 2014... Has QT seen it?

House Of Manson aka "MANSON" 2014
An unflinching chronicle of Charles Manson's life leading up to the orchestration of the Tate and LaBianca murders..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3pbuWut0fk

>>84963659
I've read the book but I still maintain the helter skelter thing wasn't wholly invented by the prosecution. I'm well aware that Manson didn't actually believe in what he was saying but it was a thing he was telling his followers.

>>84957159
>he had them leave watermelon rinds at the scene of the crime to make it look like a jigaboo had carried out the murders

I feel like this has to be bullshit, but I choose to believe it

>>84963503
Yes, it definitely was. Check out the timeline of who said what when, and bear in mind that the guilty parties had a vested interest in playing into the mind control narrative - a narrative which is pure fantasy, and which only people with no experience of drug use would believe - but that, of course, is who it was aimed at.

No, I'm saying that the people who did the actual killing were on speed when they did it. If that had been emphasized, they would have been in trouble - speed was a drug well known enough, from use of a variety of it as a weight loss drug/cognitive enhancer by middle America, that nobody would have believed the claims of - think about this - HYPNOTISM as the basis of diminished responsibility, whereas that evil LSD worked for the story. Nobody who has taken LSD before or since has been remotely capable of violence actions of the sort described - the drug and the brain's chemistry just don't work that way - but apparently, this one batch made you a mind-controlled zombie and kill crazy. It was bullshit, made up to support an ideological goal, and supported by people trying to dodge or minimise a murder rap.

One day, people will regard the Manson case the way we now regard the medieval French court cases where they would try pigs and goats as individuals for their roles in accidents.

>>84963555
His being turned into the Svengali mind-controller of myth, thanks to the paranoia that already existed in America about hippies, is why he's "Charles Manson", though, not the substance of the provable charges against him.

>>84963868
*violent actions

>>84963868
I partially agree but I still think Manson deserves his sentence all things considered.

>>84950364
you know white people are taller than black people on average, right? the countries with the tallest people in the world are scandinavian countries.

>>84963410
I'm afraid he might depict it that way, yes, saying that "the myth matters more than the facts" or some bullshit, and even doing a weirdly "sympathetic" version of the myth, ignoring and further muddying the waters about the truth of the case. The way that the media so often only treats old cases as worthy of coverage if a movie is out about them, and restricts itself to denying or confirming the movie's depictions rather than just breaking free of them entirely, means that his project will be quite capable of miring the story in a new round of the same old bullshit. Bearing in mind what his idea of addressing WWII and slavery looked like, I'm not getting my hopes up.

>>84963973
That shouldn't be how it works, though, should it? The fact that everyone wants him to stay in jail has led to a reluctance to scrutinize the circumstances of his having been put there in the first place.

>>84964168
Well I'm not exactly sure what your argument is though. Are you saying he played little to no part in coercing his followers to commit the murders?

>>84964270
Listen to what you're saying. If his name wasn't Charles Manson, would you find the accounts remotely plausible? Look at the histories of the guilty people. Look at how lucid Manson has ever seemed. Look at how much they had to gain by claiming to have had their minds controlled. Look at the invention of Helter Skelter.

My argument is that hypnotism does not exist.

>>84964409
Oh well yeah. That I totally agree with. The LSD thing is mostly bullshit I'm sure. Still, it was Manson that ordered the killings.

>>84964450
Yeah, but this is like that girl who just went down for telling a guy to commit suicide who already wanted to and was just getting her to encourage him. Without people who were willing to do it, Manson would just have been an addled pimp, his culpablility depends on the idea that he made them do it.

>>84956561
10/10 WOULD MURDER STARLETS WITH.

>>84964658
Bare minimum, Manson at least deserved jail time for his involvement in Gary Hinman's murder. Of course the prosecution obviously chose to mainly focus on Sharon Tate because it was much more sensational and brutal.

OBJECTIVE BEST CASTING:
>Manson:Bryan Cranston
>Krenwinkle:Jennifer Lawrence
>Atkins:Emma Roberts
>Watson:Miles Teller
>Beausoleil: Leo Dicaprio
>Van Houten:MEW
>Tate: Amber Heard
>Polanski:Any extra
>Bugliosi:Adrien Brody

>>84963503
hippies were big on pharmaceutical grade amphetamines back then.

>>84964937
>61 year old Cranston playing Charles Manson in the 60s

wat

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>>84949573
Tarantino for Manson

>>84964976
>what is makeup and wardrobe

>>84965018
>>84949573
Is that why he's growing his hair out?

>>84949573
the 2nd one

>>84964976
lol that would be "How do you do, fellow kids?" tier.

>>84965150
Meant for >>84965088

>>84964937
>Casting Worst Emma
>Casting JFAT
>Casting Succubus Heard
>Casting MemeW
>Casting Leo Dicaprio
>Casting Le Heisenberg fedoraman

It'll be an alternative history like Inglorious Bastards
>White people believe that it was actually Black Panthers
>KKK and law enforcement burn crosses on black people's homes
>But one Boss Nigger(Played by Samuel L Jackson) and his band of angry outcasts ain't having that shit
>Meanwhile Charles Manson has worked his way up to President of the United States and is close to enacting Helter Skelter
>Ends with SLJ humiliating Manson by making him suck his warm dingus, then unleashes the firing squad on him
It'll be relevant to the times

>>84965414
Would watch this desu.

>>84949573
He's playing Manson isn't he? A creepy guy who surrounds himself with solid 7s, perfect gig.

>>84965414
now that is KINO.

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I saw we go with our current "man-of-a-thousand-faces"

>>84955894
>positivity and agreeing
>FUCK OFF
Yeah, you may have to go back to /b/ senpai