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Why was Eddy working there? He seemed like a decently smart enough

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Why was Eddy working there? He seemed like a decently smart enough person to do better than that. Not to mention his muiltilingual skills.
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>>84766947
Money?
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>>84766958
Being a fucking errand boy in an african shithole pays well?
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He probably works for the chinks, so he goes where they tell him to go. I agree though he could do better he sounds like an okay man.
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>>84766989
He wasn't an errand boy. He was a translator. I'm pretty sure there's not a lot of Congolese nignogs who speak fucking Chinese. He probably got paid well.
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>You'll never watch kinos with eddy
>you'll never play pranks with eddy on eddy's chink boss

Just kill me
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>>84766947
He was working as a translator for an international company. That's a pretty good job desu senpai.
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>>84766947

What was the name of the documentary again?
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>>84767210
Rush Hour 4

empire of dust
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>>84767210
Empire of dust
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>>84766947
He was literally the only person that did his job
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>>84766947
China are ravaging all of Africa at the moment. The Chinese probably pay big money for someone that can translate from Mandarin to English and French.
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>>84767249
Yeah and it pisses me off that his manlet boss gave him shit instead og giving it to the other lazy idiots.
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How did he actually learn Mandarin?
Did he do an exchange in his teens?
Or did he learn on site/working with Chinese dudes?
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>>84767234
>>84767233

Cheers
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>>84767280
I think he spoke some tribal language (like Swahili or something) too at one point.
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>>84767315
I think he says at the very beginning that he was born in China
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>>84767280
Empire building in the 21st century desu
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I like the part when eddy is shown eating alone, isolated from both the chinese, and the african workers
>tfw too smart for the africans but too black for the chinese
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>>84766947
Imagine what's it's like to be him. Being actually competent negro, but having to listen to some chink berating you and your race. And you can't even do anything about it, because you know that the only way you can earn money is to shut up and bear with it. A fucking nightmare if you ask me.
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>>84767469
Pretty sure Eddy knows that negros are dumb as fuck in general.
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>>84767434
>but too black for the chinese
More like too "having a soul" for the chinese
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>>84767469
Pair that with the fact that about half the things your foreman is saying are true. All the workers are lazy illiterates, Eddy says so himself
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>>84767501
>lazy illiterates
they're chill dudes. why should they work like robots for shit pay?
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>>84767469
Shut up and do your job. Be glad someone offered you it, otherwise you would have nothing. And if you can't handle this job find another second best option. The fact that he's black is irrelevant. Why is every guy such a fucking socialist pussy these days? Be a man, shut up and do the work you are being paid for or fuck off.
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>>84767521
>t. lazy illiterate
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>>84767521
The pay is shit because they are shit workers.
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>>84767547
case and point: >>84767521
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>>84767547
Not everything is about money you know.
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>>84767576
working shit jobs in order to feed yourself is all and solely about money, anon
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>>84767560
It's a form of social protest to do work poorly when you aren't compensated properly. The chinks are just exploiting them, those guys are heroes.
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>>84767547
This only works in places where there's a lot of shit a person can buy/do if they have money.

Empire of Dust is a documentary about chinese corporations operating in africa.
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>>84767087
If he was paid in Chinese money instead of cow pies or whatever the fuck they use for money in the Congo then he was probably doing pretty well for himself
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>>84767610
To be fair, it is impossible to compensate people properly in africa, as proper compensation would mean paying people in a species of currency that could translate to some actual, meaningful improvements in quality of life.

The gasoline people were stealing from trucks was worth more than the money they were being paid for a week or more of work.
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>>84767547
>this slave mentality
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>>84767306
>Yeah and it pisses me off that his manlet boss gave him shit instead og giving it to the other lazy idiots.

seems like hes the only one smart enough to understand the deeper implications of what hes saying,
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All of you limp-wristed faggots like to act so tough and morally strong on here and it makes me laugh.
>they're shit workers so they get shit pay
>makes sense yeah you should be a fuckin robot if you want what your time's worth fuck logic bro lol
>if you want good pay how about you do your fuckin job and work
>they're not chill dudes they're SHIT WORKERS they're SHIT
Oh yeah like you'd be any better in your fucking smug anime T-shirt. This site is infested with people who have the 60s ideology that you work hard and shut out your feelings when the same people are voluntarily giving in to their lazy feelings by willingly spending their time on here

I know I'm lazy and not cut out to be a jack of all trades, but it's hilarious when Empire of Dust comes up because the faggots who like to pretend they're so hard working and better than Eddy and his workers are straight up hilarious.
>I WORK HARD IM A HARD WORKER IM A MAAAAN
Yeah okay dude
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>>84767547
>>84767501
>>84767521
Africans don't have a work culture.

I remember reading about this African guy who went to study in the US. He was amazed at how Americans don't spend much time with their families or friends. Based on that, it's likely that the Western idea of a 'full time' job causes a lot of social friction in Africa, leading to the apparent laziness at work.

Also, as soon as he went home he brought his American mindset with him and immediately started doing well.
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>>84767576
A job is, you fucking mongoloid. Why the fuck do you think people hire people? It's a mutually beneficial contract offering you money (a.k.a. resources) in exchange for you ACTUALLY WORKING.

Also, you are, by definition, paid EXACTLY what you are worth in a free market. If you are crying about making too little (or "shit" as you call it), that just means you overestimate your own abilities and your position in the job market. A.k.a. you are an easily replaceable dime in a dozen person with no relevant marketable skill sets who thinks he's special and deserves free money (resources) because [?? INSERT REASONS ??].
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>>84767750
>I know what I am but what are you?
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>>84767087
> chinese paying well
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>>84767763
the problem with all of that is, ya know, africa.

Money doesn't mean a whole lot in africa, as there's no infrastructure or much in the way of businesses that would enable people to assign much value to money.
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I'm surprised Eddy is being shown sympathy here.
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>>84767763
>work for $60,000 a year in a research lab with college debts up to your neck
>contribute to curing cancer and saving millions of lives

>be a spoiled 19 year old given a high paying corporation position through nepotism
>earn hundreds of thousands of dollars while actively disadvantaging the Earth

Wow yeah the free market is so great. :^)
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>>84767610
> being this naive
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Empire of Dust brings out all the insecure faggots from /pol/ who like to pretend they work much harder than they actually do and like to pretend they have much more upstanding jobs than they actually do

The same person giving you a lecture on why you should work hard when Empire of Dust comes up more than likely works in retail or some bullshit that doesn't constitute a lecture
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>>84767798
Does anyone have that picture or link of the guy who worked in Africa as a humanitarian aid worker or something and got a feel for their culture?
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>>84767810
Supply and demand. Trust me, if you aren't being paid then you arent needed.
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>>84767810
cancer research is being given a lower priority in the 21st century because people are in a state of surplus.
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>>84767839
Im an F1 doctor and i agree with the thread saying the africans are amazingly lazy and workshy. You get the world you deserve.
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>>84767763
>being treated like a sub-human is ok, because it pays a bill
He is willing to do that job, but it doesn't make the situation ok. What are arguing about anyway and with such anger to boot it? Do you not agree that it's a nightmarish situation where you have a choice of either lowering yourself to that or being impoverished?
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really liked how the film abruptly ends here without any credits or further conclusions. it felt like those 70s new hollywood films that would end suddenly by just cutting to black. (apocalypse now, husbands, MASH), it really makes an impact.
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>>84767827
Hey, if You're an underpaid hump then yeah management is not going to get anything done.
You haven't done any underpaid manual labour if you feel that way is what i'm saying
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>>84767871
You sound so sure of yourself. Mind telling me what you've done to "deserve" becoming an F1 doctor?

Just for future reference you should probably try to sound a little less snobby. It's good and all to have accomplishments but there are definite reasons why people don't have the same opportunities that you do. To claim otherwise is straight up pompous
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>>84767890
> impoverished
Strange because africas population is absolutely exploding. He could join the others doing no work and getting middle class euros on gap years to cook for him.
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>>84767852
Cool man, I'll just trust you.

People who put videos of themselves playing Minecraft on YouTube, earning millions, are certainly more needed than scientists and doctors.
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>>84767918
the african population is growing due to artificial, outside factors. They're getting free food, so they're breeding more, meaning they need more free food. Because there's insufficient local infrastructure to support such populations. So food aid is taking a situation where millions were starving and making it so hundreds of millions are starving.
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>>84767918
Having a lot of kids has nothing to do with being wealthy. On the contrary people in poor countries have more kids because they are the only social safety-net without the social care and things like that.
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>>84767928
If you look closely, you'll see that >>84767852 >>84767858 said the exact same thing.
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>>84767918
>a high birth rate indicates a high quality of life

lol what? It's the opposite way around.
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>>84767899
Come from a genetically intelligent line, worked hard through school and college, with jobs to support. Not getting involved in drink, drugs or smoking and looming after myself. Choosing a good wife so i had all the support i ever needed.

All actually quite easy things and it boggles how most fail to do anything more than get drunk every weekend and tweet about trump.
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>>84767918
In order for a middle class to exist, there needs to be a large number of wealthy people that need a middle class to exist.
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>>84767967
The population would be sustaining if that were the case. There is a vast excess of resources.
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>>84767720
A completely voluntary mutually beneficial contract between two people is the exact opposite of a slave-master relation.
Slaves couldn't negotiate over an offer, do a counter offer, say no to an offer and go somewhere else, start their own independent way of generating resources that allow him to survive.

The problem with you people is not that you don't want to work for a boss (nobody is telling you you should). The problem with you people is that you don't want to work, period. You are so far removed from real life that you think you can just do what you want all day and that you don't have to gather the RESOURCES to SURVIVE in one way or the other.

Nobody is forcing you to get a job or even start your own business if you don't want to, you are completely free to start living in the woods and kill bears and/or catch fish. But you won't. You are just lazy, nothing less nothing more.You want to spend your days doing what you feel like for exactly as long as you feel like doing it and you genuinely unironically think you are entitled to get something for nothing.

You have been living in such a small bubble for so long that you don't understand the most basic level of being a living organism anymore. Survival. And that's NEVER going away.
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>>84767986
The documentary is about Africa, not a fucking first-world country.
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>>84767975
A high birth rate with no equally high infant mortality absolutely does.
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>>84768017
>The population would be sustaining if that were the case
If we were living in the 19th century maybe. Not now, when even africans have access to some kind of healthcare.
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>>84767972
The second point doesn't even make sense.

If people were in a state of surplus there would be no reason to care about declining birth rates and our security, two of the biggest issues in Western countries today.
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>>84768019
>completely voluntary
it would only be completely voluntary if basic physiological human needs were guaranteed and free of charge

So you killed your own argument three words into your essay.
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Is this biggest burn in the history of humanity?
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>>84767952
t. Africans are animals but im not racist trust me
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The Chinese guy doesn't know his own history. It's like he forgot about things like Cultural Revolution or Great Leap Forward.

Both were more destructive and deadly than anything happening in Congo. Including their brutal civil wars.
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>>84768036
Except that's not what you said. Africa's population is exploding and their infant mortality rate is massive as well.
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>>84768048
Choosing to keep living is still a choice. So continue with the rest of his argument because your response was nonsense.
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>>84768019
>this slave mentality
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>>84767967
>>84768017
>"A-Africans never had to evolve their language and culture and everything because they never went without!"
>"w-wait, y-y-you tell me t-they're starving now..? b-but.."
Pick one. Africans are mouth-breathing retards, keep pumping out those 10+ kids and then whine over how you have no food to feed them.
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>>84768045
So healthcare + access to plenty of food = impoverished? Damn
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>>84768047
The flaw in your cognition that's impairing your ability to understand the current state of reality is you are still thinking in terms of "us" and "them" between groups of people that our ruling masters view as equally worthless.

As why cure cancer when every non-retired person who dies from cancer will have five replacements who will most likely work for less.
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>>84768091
Nice dichotomy you've got there. Either shut up and slave away or kill yourself.
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neet master race
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>>84767679
They use X-shaped rocks as currency.
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>>84766947

Eddy's staring into nothingness will always be golden for me, it indicates better than anything how he's fucking tired of hearing his boss' rants, and how he also he knows he can't talk back because while it may sound rude, everything he's saying it's the truth.
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>>84767810
>college debts up to your neck
>60k a year
Kek, you fucking moron. How can you not see that that's you're own fault? Who the hell goes into big student debts for a 60k job? Is this what you think an investment is? Did you even look up future wages and calculated how you were going to repay that?
Wtf did you thought was going to happen?

And then you unironically blame the free market for you making a shitty investment. Holy shit, I swear you people are genuinely retarded.
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>>84767210
>>84767210
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>>84768065
its always funny when a racist encounters a misanthrope

people are animals.
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>>84768022
The third world is the result of a people who never work hard or smart for thousands of years. Europe wasnt formed with cities and cars.

More specifically to this id even allow different standards for the circumstances. Of course none of them will become a global CEO no matter what they do, but they can still work hard at moving the gravel. Progress is generational.
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>>84768054
Fucking hilarious. Got a clip of that moment?
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>>84768048
Define "needs"

If it's anything other than food and water then you should unironically an hero
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>>84768071
This is some serious whataboutism.

China is one of the most powerful and developed countries in the world. Through their problems they still managed to modernize and progress.

Also, people shitting on China always mention the Great Leap Forward, but never the Taiping Rebellion which killed a similar amount a century before. It's almost like Chinese history is defined by constant wars and bloodshed.
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>>84768153

I can make a webm in a moment if I find the exact minute.
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>>84766947
i feelt bad for him when they showed them eating
>all chinks sitting in dining hall
>eddy sitting alone in his office
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>>84768144
He can't talk back because the chink will just get another nigger to do the same job.
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>>84768084
Think that one through for a minute.
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>>84768172

Yeah, because Chinese-Congolese translators are everywhere.
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>>84768133
Maybe if one of their forefathers had ever slaved away at work they might be better off now. Hhhmmm....
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>>84768146
Also

>60k a year
>research lab

Lol, try more like 35k unless you're a professional medical technologist. Bern victim genocide when?
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>>84768095
americans can't seem to get away from this slave mentality encroaching their lives. they slaved the niggers now the jews slaves them. hell i fucking find it hilarious that americans only have 15 days of vacation leaves and sick leaves and are even discouraged to take any of them

KEK. fucking slaves
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>>84768108
I think I misread your post. What did you mean by that that >>84768017 post?
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>>84768195
If they weren't in semi-reliable supply, the chinese would not be in the congo.
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>>84768146
Dont make me face the consequences of bad choices!!
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>>84768166
People mention the Great Leap Forward because its death toll was purely the Communists fault.
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>>84768154
Here ya go.
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>>84768149
Its always funnier when i meet a virgin fedora
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>>84767810
>curing cancer
>not just slaving to make shekels for (((pfizer)))
Lad wew
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>>84768146
I'm not working in a research lab you imbecile. My point was that their average wage is fucking shit and that's deplorable. How do I know this? Because I looked it up before hand you massive faggot.

Is it possible for you Capitalist cucks to fathom a person complaining about the state of society for the benefit of others?

>And then you unironically blame the free market for you making a shitty investment
How is thinking in terms of 'investment' even remotely beneficial for society? A retard spazzing into his microphone on YouTube isn't more necessary than someone working day-after-day to cure a life threatening illness.

>b-b-but muh financial freedom
Who fucking cares? Your life is more important that your ability to waste money on frivolous shit.
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>>84768169
>>84768153

Found it
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>>84768048
You don't understand what voluntary means. Just because I need to eat doesn't mean people owe me food. If someone offers me food in exchange of work and I accept, than that was still voluntary. I could have caught my own food, I could have went to another person who might have offered me more food for less work.

The person offering me the food is not the bad guy! If he wasn't there I couldn't catch food myself, I would die. It isn't that guys fault that I'm hungry!!!!! He doesn't owe me fish. I should be happy he's there because it offers an additional option for me, that I wouldn't have had if he wasn't there.
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>>84768249
I hope you realize using the term "fedora" at this point just paints you as a anally-flustered christian
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>>84768230
Nah, not really. Mao fucked it up big time even when most of the CPC disagreed with him.

It's more the fault of their dictatorship-style rule.
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>>84768275
>its my choice not to die so therefore I'm not a slave

literally every slave has had the same choice
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>>84768151
You talked about yourself. About an individual. Poor motherfucker born in Africa to get where you (supposedly) are would have to bust his ass much harder than you did. We are not talking about who is to blame for this. It's just how the things are at present time.
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>>84768095
>>84768204
>NEETS in their natural habitat

I'm not American btw.
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>>84768275
So it isn't wrong to sell daughters into sexual slavery if it means they'll be well fed and comfortable their entire lives.
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>>84768151
>The third world is the result of a people who never work hard or smart for thousands of years.

This is a very disingenuous claim, especially when you're bringing up history to it
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>>84766947
I always felt bad that they made him eat on his own.
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>>84768289
>>84768289
It's still their fault. They can't blame any other outside force for this. That's why it's really hypocritical seeing this guy schooling some poor African about economy, infrastructure or how they destroyed everything left by the colonial power.
The Chinese did exactly the same things and worse.
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>>84768401
Half the problems in africa boil down to how none of them think of each other as "their own."

Africa is basically the end-state of racism. Everyone chimping out over minor differences to the point no one can actually build or accomplish anything.
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>>84768128
Not anyone who has posted so far but.
I don't think population surplus is even a factor in the quest for curing cancer.
Cancer cures are funded by rich because it's good PR and also because rich or poor alike you are susceptible to cancer. You could argue it affects rich people less because they can live healthier compared to the poor but at the same time cancer is something that usually emerges when you reach later stages in life, and the rich live longer.

The reason people are paid less to cure cancer than other things is simply a matter of money, like everything else is about. Curing cancer doesn't reap anyone any profits directly. Think about it. If you found a cure for cancer tomorrow, how much can your organization truly benefit from it? If you keep it private, PR for your organization would go down the shitter because a cure for cancer is something that is seen that should benefit all of mankind. But if you make the cure public you reap no profits. So curing cancer isn't profitable, and therefore there's less lucrative investment in it, and it follows that people charged with looking for a cure are paid less.

How much people get paid is directly tied with how much value and profits they generate or potentially generate. So obviously entertainers and sports stars are going to be paid a lot because they literally generate profits from pulling in advertisers, bolstering the brand of whatever network or sports club they affiliate with. They're paid a lot yes, but the people above them are paid even more. The managers and owners of said sports clubs, the producers of shows and movies, etc.
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>>84768445
So ultimately, what you're saying, is there isn't much demand for curing cancer.
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>>84768425
Except the Chinese still managed to develop, that's the big difference.

They had to do it on their own while recovering from a civil war and the conflict with Japan. In a single generation they turned their shit around. His point is that East Africa has had extensive time and opportunities - more than what China had - to do the same but hasn't
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>>84768464
>In a single generation they turned their shit around

This would imply china generated thousands of years of history, culture, and knowledge in a single generation.
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>>84768301
I'm tired of repeating myself. A slave has no choice in which way to gather resources. Huge fundamental difference.

In your opinion, a person who is the only living person on a planet, that puts in effort to gather resources for his own survival is a slave. Because he is forced to do work to not die, which you define to be slavery.

That is a valid opinion to have, although, like I said, it goes back to the core that you're just lazy at heart: you want something for nothing, to get resources without putting effort into requiring them. As you can see, this has nothing to do with free markets though (there's only 1 person on the planet, so there are no markets). You just don't want to work for survival.
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>>84768170
>>84768401
someone make webm of this, please
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>>84768267
Nice. I wish we could've seen Lao's face. Eddy seems to be enjoying himself. That nod he does after he gets Lao to confirm it lol.
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>>84768265
Last I checked MDs and PharmDs working for pharma companies (or really anywhere, for that matter) are compensated pretty well. Why should you be paid more than 40k a year for pipetting liquids between tubes when a liquid handler robot can do you job and people with letters after their names are doing all the real heavy lifting?

Not only am I going to school for free right now but the military is actually paying me to be here, all because my degree is in something they have a critical shortage of. Why the fuck shouldn't I tell you to go fuck yourself when you demand that taxes go up across the board to pay for a bunch of dumbasses who couldn't be bothered to check BLS before deciding to drop 6 figures on something? You're a manlet numale with a beard and BA degree, aren't you?
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>>84768493
It's not implying shit. It's saying that China went from being an agrarian country with a literacy rating in the single digits, to being a modernized superpower with the most intelligent men and women on the planet.
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>>84768166
>China is one of the most powerful and developed countries in the world.
Only on 4chan is China anything more than a paper tiger. Visit /k/ or /his/ talking this nonsense.
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>>84768548
>with the most intelligent men and women on the planet.

what the fuck
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>>84768574
PISA tests. Even in Western countries, the Chinese diaspora is dominant as fuck. Also IQ.
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>>84768102
>keep pumping out those 10+ kids
The birth rate in many African countries is extremely low because. Infant mortality is extremely high as well.

>whine over how you have no food to feed them
You would be in a bad situation too if you had no skills, no schools, hospitals and was ravaged by constant civil war (thanks to Cold War). But please tell me its the infants fault he doesnt get proper nutrition, keyboard warrior
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>>84768054
Eddy was right on the bantz that entire documentary. Loved it.
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>>84768204
the idea of "if you work hard you'll succeed, and if you're poor you didn't work hard enough" is a spectre that end the US one day.
It's a slave ideology embedded in the brain of every american
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>>84768570
woowow better let the learned expert monkeys on 4chan boards tell me what to think right. faggot
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>>84768019
Nothing more pathetic than watching a chan autist preach about the harshness of life.

Shut the fuck up mate.
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>>84768647
Actually socialism will destroy the US and it's largely responsible for the considerable decline we've had already.
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>>84768541
>and people with letters after their names are doing all the real heavy lifting?
Are you retarded or just lying for the sake of argument? Researchers really don't get paid that much for the potential impact they're having and for what's required to get to their position. Not everyone is just pipetting liquids or whatever the fuck.

>when you demand that taxes go up across the board to pay for a bunch of dumbasses who couldn't be bothered to check BLS before deciding to drop 6 figures on something?
Not what I'm arguing faggot. This whole thing began with me calling the free market bullshit, because people who are making a difference in the world are paid averagely compared to others who do fuck all. Why should an actor get millions of dollars per movie compared to someone at the forefront of science?

>You're a manlet numale with a beard and BA degree, aren't you?
I'm in IT and I get a pretty solid wage.
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>>84768353
You completely misread everything I said. This has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

The problem is that you still look at a "boss" (someone who OFFERS you the OPTION of a specific contract), as a "slavemaster (someone who tells you what to do without you having any say in it whatsoever).

These 2 things aren't even close to the same thing, but neo-commies like to pretend that they are. Why? Because it's easy and it works on an emotional level.

It's way easier to say buzzwords like "wageslavery" and have people go "yeah, fuck a job! I make way to little anyway!" than to slowly explain step by step why this is fundamentally nonsensical and that the reason they make too little money in their mind is actually their own fault. That's slow, boring, harsh and unpopular. Which, even thought it's actually the truth, doesn't work in a political discussion irl.
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>>84768625
It's not the infants fault, it's the parents fault for fucking like retard. I have no sympathy for them.
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>>84768687
Strong argument.
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>>84768703
Socialism is not social democracy. You're just spouting these terms in the american way of using them. Socialism to you is just "everything bad, everything un-american". Is this not ideological conditioning?
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>>84768703
>highest HDIs in the world: Norway, Australia, Switzerland, Germany, Denmark

Yeah but socialism sucks right?
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>>84768734
I'm not arguing with you, I'm insulting you.
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>>84768760
None of those are socialist
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>>84768760
>tfw germany has the most lax office culture and working hours in the world
The fucking country shuts down on sundays
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>>84768788
Sounds great. The average work week in Germany is around 25 hours or something.
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>>84768705
>Not everyone is just pipetting liquids or whatever the fuck.
You have no idea what working in a research lab is like and are just spouting bullshit. Look up what the average PharmD, MD, or DDS/DMD salary is then report back once you know how wrong you are. The vast majority of research technician jobs could be done by a literal trained monkey and are compensated accordingly.
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>>84768430
Tbf Eddy shouldn't have eaten with the other Congolese because he isn't like them and he shouldn't try to be their friend.
Kinda like how officers don't eat with their men.
I meant more how the chinks must clearly not let him eat with them.
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>>84768772
Who was talking about socialism? We are talking about the harshness of american ideas like "bootstraps" and "hard work" in relation to earlier arguments about poverty and being paid a shit wage. Worker's rights and social safety net is something every country in europe figured out, and yet the US is enslaved to this little idea
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>>84768771
Ah yes, the bearings of a true intellectual.
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>>84768501
>A slave has no choice in which way to gather resources

Neither does a consumer in a capitalist society.
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>>84768501
nice slave mentality
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>>84768574
>>84768548
oh look, its r/asianmasculinity
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>>84768862
theres no arguing with braindead Bern victims so the only value to be had in this interaction is to entertain ourselves by insulting you
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>>84768862
You think you're an 'intellectual'?

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHSH
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>>84768760
Americans are mostly subhuman. There's a reason why some of these socialist countries are significantly gun friendly yet don't rack up the same per capita murders or assaults.
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>>84768903
Im not american. Your bastardized version of leftism is basically nothing but more liberalism
It's a disgrace
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>>84768463
There isn't. It only has any impact on an incredibly small percentage of the global population, the people who actually have it.

Several factors:

1. In medicine, prevention is frequently touted as better than any cure. For cancer the focus has long shifted from the search of a cure to better methods of early stage detection and awareness. For all intents and purposes cancer has already been 'cured' in that a reliable treatment exists if you catch it early enough.

2. Modern medical science (and all science really) is geared in such a way that only the directly life-threatening issues that affect the largest proportions of people are given any effort in researching. Anything else is pretty much uncharted waters. We have this notion that there are tons of medical researchers studying every manner of disease when in fact most non-lethal ones are ignored. No one is looking for a cure for skin conditions or hair loss because they are purely cosmetic issues. You may protest this notion but read the next point first.

3. Everything is about money. So why aren't people researching a cure for skin conditions and hair loss, then reaping the benefits of the cure? Because they are already quite happily reaping the benefits of treatments that don't always work, because people still pay for them. You're already paying for that cream. Same thing with the cure for cancer. If someone held the rights to the cure for cancer, sure they might earn a lot of money. But at the same time, they're already earning tons of money in cancer drives and donations to fund 'looking for the cure'.
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>>84768760
And they've been slipping recently due to their immigration policies. Are you saying we should have some kind of, say,
>nationalist socialist
system instead?
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>>84768848
>yeah but socialism sucks right?

Why imply in your post that you were talking about socialism if you weren't?

Europe is still just as cucked by capital as America really. Considering most of them are literally members of the EU which is all about muh free market, free movement ect
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>>84768927
I assume you're referring to our nigger problem.

Don't worry friend, only 20-30 more years of EU immigration policies and you'll be right there alongside us, violent crime and everything
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>>84768933
Oh dear.
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>>84768809
I just looked it up for my country, with one of the highest wages in the world.

>Lab Technician: $50,869 per year
>Lab assistant: $37,350 per year
>Medical lab scientist: $60,577 per year
>Clinical lab scientist: $61,463 per year
>Microbiologist: $67,550 per year
>Pharmacist: $47,400 - $88,140 per year
>Chemical engineer $67,982
>Physicist: $111,580 per year

Bear in mind the average wage in my country is $78,832 per year.

Again: why the fuck does an actor get paid 10 or 20 times what the above get?
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>>84768936
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>84768972
They don't.
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>>84768707
You're thinking in small, ultimately irrelevant terms. I'm thinking in broader terms. The employee is a slave. The boss is a slave. The boss' boss is a slave. Ad infinitum. The only people who aren't slaves in the current state of capitalist society are parasites. So either NEETs or billionaires. Slaves do nothing but serve the interests of parasites.

Just because you can argue to a limited amount of choice in exactly how you trade away the only thing you have, your life, to parasites, in exchange for some limited creature comforts, does not mean you are not a slave.
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>>84768972
>Again: why the fuck does an actor get paid 10 or 20 times what the above get?
Because nobody cares about a bunch of nerds in a lab.
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>>84768895
That subreddit isn't even bad.
Asian masculinity is something suppressed in western media, but that doesn't even matter because a cursory glance at that subreddit shows it's just people discussing the challenges of be an Asian male.
If you don't like that, it makes you no better than those feminist protestors who picket masculinity talks.
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If only the anglos didn't exist

we wouldn't have our shitty free market problems then
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>>84768975
Coming from the guy calling countries socialist when they aren't, meaning you don't even understand the most basic political theory. Some better workers rights doesn't equal socialism.
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>>84768932
So. If there isn't much demand for cancer. That would mean the entities primarily affected, people, are not in high demand. Thus, people are in a surplus.

So you've written two essays to say less than >>84767858 and >>84767852.
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>>84768987
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>>84768972
>60-70k a year for a bachelor's degree
What exactly is the problem here?
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>>84768984
Jennifer Lawrence got $20M for Passengers
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>>84768715
>its the parents fault they were born into a country with no schools and no job skills
Once again, anon. You got me.
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>>84768972
>why the fuck does an actor get paid 10 or 20 times what the above get?

to keep the river of hot dumb jailbait flowing through the LA bus terminal.
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>>84769043
and for every Jennifer Lawrence there's 1000 literal nobodies getting paid nothing. It's almost like the only way to make money in that field is to be at the top of your talent or something.

Either that or be related to Chuck Schumer.
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>>84769021
In the american mind it does. For the american public it does. Definitely American ideologues talk like it would destroy america
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>>84769021
>Some better workers rights doesn't equal socialism.

Not that guy but that's what americans think socialism is
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>>84769021
I wasn't that poster.
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>>84768931
>get BTFO
>rant about liberalism to save face
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>>84769052
Yes but maybe the reason why africa has no schools and job skills is because it's full of africans and any place we allow them to go will be brought down in quality. Have you ever considered this?
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>>84768865
I don't think you understand what capitalism means. There is no system on earth that allows for more choices in how to gather resources than capitalism.

>>84768889
>>84768903
I tried to actually have a serious conversation with you people and these are the types of responses you give after me giving a serious reply time and time again. When people say socialists are literally retarded and can't be reasoned with, this is what they are referring to.

Well, at least I tried. Good luck with fighting "the man" guys, it'll surely get you far in life.

>>84768914
Nothing I said implied that.

>>84768987
So, in your opinion, the only people who aren't slaves are people who (you think) get stuff without having to put effort in for getting said resources (billionaires and NEETs), right?

I know that's what you think, but that's fundamentally an argument for laziness, not against free markets as I explained here: >>84768501
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>>84769043
Jennifer Lawrence is top of her field so it's an unfair comparison. The average actor is paid nowhere near as much.
Now if you compare Jennifer Lawrences pay with a specialist on the aforementioned fields you may get less of a disparity.
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>>84769073
What value does Jennifer Lawrence have for society compared to even an average biomedical engineer working on cancer research?
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>>84769052
It's the parents fault they can't keep their dicks in their pants/legs closed, yes. Stop having kids when you can barely feed yourself. Very difficult to understand apparently. You're not African by any chance?
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>>84769096
bernie is a fucking non-existant is my point
Controlled opposition
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>>84769111
>CIA and KGB give tribal warlords money, weapons and "infrastructure"
>they lay waste to each other
>tell them to go fuck themselves
>people act surprised these people cant unfuck themselves
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>>84769125
>Nothing I said implied that.
Your insufferably pretentious tone is all the evidence we need, pseud.

Fuck off back to /leftypol/. Oh, and read a book.
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>>84768865
No one is forcing you to consume anything. The only thing you NEED to consume is food and water. Everything else beyond that is a luxury provided for you by capitalism.

You could sell all your electronics tomorrow and cancel your internet and TV subscription and there'd be nothing stopping you from doing that. You could go start your own non-religious version of the mennonites if you wanted so you'd have friends in your austerity too.
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>>84769139
Less of a disparity yes, but still a significant one. My question to people defending the free market so much, is why that should be. I mean, one person is clearly contributing more to the world than the other. They have to be more skilled, better trained, more intelligent, etc.
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>>84769150
>It's the parents fault they can't keep their dicks in their pants/legs closed
>surprised to learn 2nd and 3rd world agricultural communities have to have high populations to sustain themselves
How did you pass high school?
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>>84769141
>What value does Jennifer Lawrence have for society

Her salary is based on the box office profit she generates on a movie based on her presence alone, it's not rocket science you stupid fuck
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>>84769232
>one person is clearly contributing more
How so? What are your criteria?
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>>84769075
>>84769085
That doesn't exactly matter. The public think retarded things, it doesn't mean it's true, or you should treat it like it is
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>>84769035
>That would mean the entities primarily affected, people, are not in high demand.
Yes.

>Thus, people are in a surplus.
No.

This is outright wrong >>84767858. People in a state of surplus has nothing to do with it.

This >>84767852 is more correct, except when he mentions need. Demand does not equal need. Cancer researchers ARE needed. Entertainers are not needed. But one has more potential of generating profits than the other, so the demand for them is greater.
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>>84769185
So what you're saying is that once white people relinquished direct control of their continent they went right back to tribal warfare and generally acting like niggers? Sounds about right to me.

The only infrastructure in subsaharan africa that has ever existed was because of Arab and White colonizers. They lived in mud huts for millenia before outside contact and are currently at the apex of their civilization (lol) by any objective measure. All of this is due to being lifted up by the white man's inventions and medicine.
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>>84769141
A big factor in hollywood lowering beauty standards in films over the last decade is to encourage hot dumb jailbait to buy bus tickets to hollywood, willing to do literally anything to prove they're hotter than Jennifer Lawrence.

If the mainstream media beauty standards are too high, less hot dumb jailbait flows through the LA bus terminal.
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>>84769232
>still a significant one
I disagree with this point. A young actress may earn 20M for one movie, but her value depreciates with age. And we don't have any sources for salaries of people in the top of their field to compare with.
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>>84769274
Exactly how are people not currently in a state of surplus?
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>>84769185
Or maybe it's because they were always fucked and never got anywhere?
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>>84769192
If you think that any of the stuff I said was left-wing economically, then perhaps you should "read a book".
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>>84769340
Whatever you say, my pseudo-intellectual friend.
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>>84769239
They have all the help and knowledge needed from the Western world to know that having kids when you can barely feed yourself is a bad idea. I think you need to get your baboon head out of your ass.
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>>84769141
How much money do you give per year to see movies and to netflix versus donating to cancer charities? There's your answer you fucking faggot
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>>84769361
You mean like all those citations you gave me about muh CIA, muh KGB?

Fuck off
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>>84769361
Cute, but he's still right.
t. any history book
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>>84769334
>Exactly how are people not currently in a state of surplus?
This is another point of contention but not the point we were discussing.
You sought to draw a causation between the world's population being surplus to the reduced effort in cancer research, which I argue is a flimsy correlation at best.
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>>84769353
>They have all the help and knowledge needed from the Western world
It's cute you think this is true.
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>>84769397
Are you black?

Africa really failed as civilization.
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>>84769379
>https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v23/d1
> In August 1960, the U.S. Government launched a covert political program in the Congo lasting almost 7 years, initially aimed at eliminating Lumumba from power and replacing him with a more moderate, pro-Western leader. The U.S. Government provided advice and financial subsidies. At the same time, based on authorization from President Eisenhower’s statements at an NSC meeting on August 18, 1960, discussions began to develop highly sensitive, tightly-held plans to assassinate Lumumba. After Lumumba’s death at the hands of Congolese rivals in January 1961, the U.S. Government authorized the provision of paramilitary and air support to the new Congolese Government.
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>>84769382
You must have had a bare minimum history class. Especially how Catholicism fucked up tribal societies.
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>>84769397
The white man that isolated and synthesized quinine is singlehandedly responsible for the existence of millions of african lives.

You're welcome.
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>>84769397
It's cute how you think Africans today wouldn't die en masse if the West stopped helping them.
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>>84768054
top laff. chang would have absolutely hated that
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>>84769418
Great, but prior to 1700 they didn't even have the wheel or domesticated animals so I'd say this is a small hiccup in the grand scheme of being dragged out of the literal stone ages
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>>84769426
holy kek
>WE
good one anon
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>>84769426
>Egypt
>Black
Ok...
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>>84769185
>literally implying blacks need whitey to control them

wholeheartedly agree
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>>84769476
You claimed 'Africa' failed as s civilisation.

Egypt is in Africa.

Go home /pol/.
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>>84769437
Tribal societies that would eat each others brains and sacrifice children to please angry gods? Yeah man they were great the way they were.

Look up Kuru before you respond
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>>84769437
You must have had a bare minimum history class. Especially how African Blacks never amounted to anything worthwhile.
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>>84769390
But you agreed people are not in high demand. A supply that exceeds demand is surplus.

You're also thinking in disconnected terms, as if the world either isn't a single entity or a series of inextricably connected entities. Or probably just in non-zero-sum terms.

As the rich and powerful of the world saying cancer research is worth less, per year, than the cost of a single hollywood blockbuster (of which there will be dozens, every year) is unequivocally saying that human life doesn't matter.
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>>84769492
Cream of the crop semantics at play here!
Go back to redit why don't you, fucking stupid nigger hahaha holy shit.
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>>84769492
Ok.

>Black people failed as civilization and nation.
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>>84769492
http://bigthink.com/philip-perry/were-the-ancient-egyptians-black-or-white-scientists-now-know

PANIC
>>
>thread goes to intense shit at exactly 9:30

seems like kids are waking up in the US
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>>84769516
Hi underage

>>84769517
This is objectively wrong. There were plenty of African civilisations in history and there are plenty of relatively successful African economies today.
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>>84769559
Ooga booga my friend, ooga booga, you got nothing.
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>>84769227
>No one is forcing you to consume anything. The only thing you NEED to consume is food and water

Well at least it took you more than three words to contradict the core of your own argument, this time.
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>>84769567
Not an argument.
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>>84769496
I thought we were talking about history, not your irrelevant race ideologies.

>>84769493
>Kuru
>disease specifically for Papua New Guinea.
Nice work making up shit. So thanks for proving my point that your making up history.
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>>84769559
>relatively successful
relative to what? a literal pile of indian street poo?
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>>84769559
Ethiopians, Egyptians, and Algerians are more closely related to Arabs than to subsaharan jungle niggers. The fact that you don't implicitly understand this means discussion is pretty pointless on account of you being a retard.
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>>84769583
Most of the middle-east, central america and south east Asia.
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>>84769559
>There were plenty of African civilisations in history and there are plenty of relatively successful African economies today.
Hahaha, wut?
Egypt != black.
Egypt also was conquered numerous times by white people and even arabs.

>successful African economies today.
Like?
Most african countries live now on chinese money and technologies.
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>>84769227
>no one is FORCING you to sustain your life!
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>>84769532
>claim Egypt isnt Africa
>get proven wrong
>start rant about ethnic groups instead of admitting Africa isnt a country
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>>84769613
>>84769613
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>>84769581
Neither is
>There were plenty of African civilisations in history and there are plenty of relatively successful African economies today.

>>84769582
>I thought we were talking about history, not your irrelevant race ideologies.
But it is history how African Blacks have gotten nowhere. How is that race ideology? Why are you talking about race like this all of a sudden? This is history.
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>>84769607
By I proved you objectively wrong. You weren't whinging about 'muh niggers', you were complaining about a supposed lack of African civilisations and I blew you the fuck out.

Next!
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>>84769511
>As the rich and powerful of the world saying cancer research is worth less, per year, than the cost of a single hollywood blockbuster (of which there will be dozens, every year) is unequivocally saying that human life doesn't matter.
I'm talking in broad strokes, as in the overall general rule. exceptions obviously apply. But you're guilty of your own accusation here

>But you agreed people are not in high demand. A supply that exceeds demand is surplus.
When you treat people as simple demand as if they were a commodity.

And now let's pick apart your argument.
When we say 'people are not in high demand', the 'people' in that statement are NOT your average human being in the world population. The 'people' denotes the researchers who are being paid to actively pursue a cure for cancer. You deliberately made an ambiguous statement and conflated the two back here >>84769035 and I gave you the benefit of the doubt, when you said
>That would mean the entities primarily affected, people, are not in high demand.
Again, it is the researchers not in high demand, NOT people in general.
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>>84769582
You were speaking of tribal societies generally.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-40185359
Ooga booga my melanin-enriched friend.
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>>84769607
>I thought Africa was a country!
>better start screaming nigger to end this argument!
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>>84769633
We are talking about black people, not africa.
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>>84769625
Egypt is in Africa.

Are you literally retarded?

>>84769637
You don't know what an 'argument' is.
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>>84769638
>he thinks getting pissy about semantics means he won the argument
What's next, you gonna go back and find all the typos we made?
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>>84769661
You really need to go back to redit.

This is embarrassing.

Also attempt suicide, please.
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>>84768147
YES YES YES YES YES KINO KINO KINO
KINO
I
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O
KINO
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>>84769637
>But it is history how African Blacks have gotten nowhere
But this is completely untrue
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>>84769661
>Egypt is in Africa.
And black people have nothing to do with it.
So what exactly black people achieved in their entire history as race?
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>>84769613

KANGZ/10
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>>84769607
>Ethiopians
>closely related to Arabs than to subsaharan jungle niggers

That's only when it fits your narrative, same with somalians. You people are so predictable
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>>84769676
I think we both know you've lost and are just trying to save face.
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>>84769685
Right, they once ran a successful slave trading business with the Arabs prior to the arrival of any Europeans
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>>84769644
>this has nothing to do with the topic of conversation but ill post it anyway!
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>>84769676
It's 100% a butthurt reditor, he knows he lost he's just trying to get something back now, and semantics is the closest the brainlet can get.

>>84769685
How so? Mudhuts and mud "castles" is getting somewhere noteworthy?
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>>84769707
This, i suppose black people really good slave traders.
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>>84769713
>backpedaling this hard to prove tribal savages aren't savages

Wanna talk about FGM next?
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>>84769652
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>>84769679
*reddit
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>>84769704
I can't stop laughing, thank you for this redditor, thank you. Never change your brainlet ways.
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>>84769734
>goalpost move
>thread about black people
>MUH EGYPT
Wow, ok.
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>>84769734
whoa.. an image belonging on 9gag from 5 years ago.. damn... he won...
Kill yourself you stupid nigger.

>>84769754
It's so fucking embarrassing how stupid they are.
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>>84769734
Like I said, the fact that you don't implicitly understand that there's a distinct difference between the northern and southern portions of the continent proves you're a fucking brainlet redditor who's just playing a shell game with semantics.

Either that or you're being retarded on purpose, not sure which one.
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>>84769728
>talking about past history of Africa
>link article about tribal rituals within the past decade
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>>84769782
I think it's actual reddit this time.
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>>84769749
Any time, my reddit friend.
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>>84767547
good wagegoy. Keep making millions while I pay you cents.
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>>84768206
If their high birth rate was a necessity to survive and support themselves it would be due to high mortality meaning despite giving birth all the time, only a couple survive.

An exploding population means there cannot be a lack of resources and high mortality.
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>>84769782
I'm honestly shocked you cant comprehend Africa isnt a country.
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>>84769798
Dear lord, exactly how butthurt are you little guy? Don't go angry too long, it's not good for your body.
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>>84769820
I'm honestly shocked a reddinigger like you still tries to argue the idea that anyone ITT ever believed for 1 second that Africa was a country.
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>>84769794
>muh semantics
Lemme guess, bald niggers getting killed for the gold inside their head is somehow white people's fault
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>>84768144
Honestly, where does that chink get off?

He has some points about work ethic and shit but the whole "they should have learned" from the Europeans is a shitty argument, considering colonial rulers never put native Africans into any real administrative roles, like they did in India and China.
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>>84769825
t. reddit
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>>84769854
I don't think he meant administrative, he just meant keeping shit working.
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Holy fuck blakcs are even more butthurt than strorm faggots
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>>84769777
>Africa really failed as civilization.
>It's so fucking embarrassing how stupid they are
The only retard here is you.
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>>84769889
b-but wide bois...
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>>84769845
Typical faggot insulated inside his own bubble of information. He can only argue effectively against the strawman he's been practicing against because he's braindead. Hence the assertion that anyone here thinks africa is a country when literally nobody said that.
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>>84769820
Nobody ever serously claimed that you fucking faggot. Stop arguing about semantics you dunce
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>>84767210
Kingdom of Dirt
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>>84768933
Do you honestly believe those countries are "slipping"? Compared to whom?
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>>84769854
>considering colonial rulers never put native Africans into any real administrative roles, like they did in India and China.
So why they hired chinese people to fix rail-roads, build infrastructure and develop their country if they are free now from white people?
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>>84769854
Has it occurred to you that native africans weren't capable of serving as effective administrators of a British system?
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>>84769848
>lose argument
>go on irrelevant tangent because you cant comprehend the conversation
Please go back to /pol/.
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>>84769896
what the fuck is this map picture supposed to prove
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>>84769912
Let's be honest; you can't even define the word 'semantics' without using Google.
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>>84769896
Everyone here who isn't a brainlet reddinigger knows exactly what that anon meant when he wrote
>Africa really failed as civilization.
you stupid literal fucking baboon. Again, commit suicide and make the world a better place.

>>84769906
It's embarrassing, it really is.
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>>84769906
>africa is a country when literally nobody said that.
>Africa really failed as civilization.
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>>84769141
You sound like that faggot who never scavenges cigs or books and only goes after materials and wood and then posts "why are my characters dying?"
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>>84769965
>>84769896
Why are you ignoring real question.
I corrected myself.

>Black people failed as civilization.

Do not have you objections to that?
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>>84769965
wow its almost like you can talk about a whole continent of people when you use the continent's name wow neat
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>>84769963
You seem rather booty-blasted
I think /r/The_Donald would be more your speed.
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>>84769959
Let's be honest; you lost the discussion, you know we're right, Africans have jack shit and the Chinaman was correct, and now you're wailing around hoping to gain something. But you lost, so now we get to see you squirm here trying to save face on an anonymous Mongolian horse-riding forum.
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>>84770001
Just this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_empires
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>>84770019
Yup, you can't even define it, despite using it like six times ITT.

Kill yourself.
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>>84769959
wow nice argument nigger. Stop dancing around with bullshit like this. You are grasping at straws here and its painfully obvious
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>>84770050
>mobile link
Oh reddit, it really is you!
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>>84770050
And?
They were pretty shitty tribal empires if Europe so easily conquered them.
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>>84770061
How cute, cute! Go kiss some nigger ass, sweetheart!
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>>84770062
It's painfully obvious that you can't define the word, mongoloid.
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>>84770001
>>84770091
Europeans (and all people for that matter) originally came from Africa.

So every single accomplishment and every single empire is, technically speaking, African.

Try and deny this without being a massive racist.
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>>84770091
He somehow thinks a bunch of briefly sustained dirt "kingdom" is worth anything compared to Europe or Asia.
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>>84770095
You're terrible at saving face.
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>>84770122
>Europeans (and all people for that matter) originally came from Africa.
>So every single accomplishment and every single empire is, technically speaking, African.
Ohh.. sweetie... reddit... no...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170523083548.htm
it's over reddit.. it's all over..
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>>84770122
>WE WUZ FIRST PEOPLE AND SHIIT
Ok.
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>>84770103
wow you are constantly avoiding answering. Its just embarrasing.
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>>84770152
I've honestly been laughing for the past 15 minutes, genuinely enjoyed the thread. I hope you redditors stick around and come back to other threads like this for some more butthurt.
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>>84770122
LOL

Oldest man to known to have lived was found in the balkans you retard
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>>84770183
>I'm not b-butthurt, h-honest
Ok.
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>>84768265
Commit sudoko you Berned retard
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>>84770208
I mean try to be honest for once, why would I be butthurt? We won the argument and got to see you redditors squirm about semantics.
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>>84770161
>posting a disputed scientific case and calling it fact

A quick google search shows what experts have to say on the matter.

But the fact you're trying to reject the Out of Africa theory suggests you're a racist from /pol/ anyway.
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>>84770239
rekt
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>>84770065
Not that guy but if you sit at a "battlestation" in the current year you should kill yourself
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>>84770207
>>84770209
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2132026-our-common-ancestor-with-chimps-may-be-from-europe-not-africa/

>Sergio Almécija, also at George Washington University, says it is important to bear in mind that primates seem particularly prone to evolving similar features independently. “Single characters are not reliable to make big evolutionary [claims].”
>Tim White at the University of California, Berkeley, says the new research “tries to resurrect Begun’s tired argument with a long-known crappy fossil, newly scanned”.

It's so easy to spot a racist.
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>>84770259
Hahahaha oh so it's "disputed" huh?
>A quick google search shows what experts have to say on the matter.
Some of them say they're hesitant to completely throw out the Out of Africa theory but others say it's a breakthrough.
>But the fact you're trying to reject the Out of Africa theory suggests you're a racist from /pol/ anyway.
It's called a theory for a reason, sweetie.

>>84770264
Damn you got me good.
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>>84770307
>Others are even more blunt. Tim White at the University of California, Berkeley, says the new research “tries to resurrect Begun’s tired argument with a long-known crappy fossil, newly scanned”.
>However, Begun rejects these criticisms. “The fact is that if this specimen had been found in Africa at this age there would be much less scepticism,” he says.
>university of California
Oy vey of course it is! Hahaha, come on now reddit.

You're very cute when you get flustered.

And very cute posting too.
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>>84769002
I live in Asia. Masculine men are few and far between here.
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>>84770239
But you don't even know what the word 'semantics' means.
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>>84766947
Because is a fucking good job?
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>>84770318
>so it's "disputed" huh?
Yes? The article I linked clearly shows as much. There's also speculation that the sample belongs to Ouranopithecus macedoniensis instead.

>but others say it's a breakthrough.
Oh, so it's disputed? Thanks.

>It's called a theory for a reason, sweetie.
And a single sample of dental records doesn't even qualify.
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>>84769607
>Ethiopians
Ethiopians are black as shit.
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>>84770365
What's the relevance of the University of California?
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>>84770402
You were trying to move goalposts because an anon said Africa instead of African Blacks or Sub-Saharan Africans or some other shit like that. You were arguing semantics because we all know, all of us who aren't reddiniggers, what that anon meant, but you had no argument to dispute him so you went for the good old
>n-no you're wrong, because technically Africa is all of Africa continent and Egypt is there too sooooo I win haha!

>>84770444
The way you wrote it before you wrote it as if it was completely false
>A quick google search shows what experts have to say on the matter.
And
>posting a disputed scientific case and calling it fact
That wasn't the point of my post at all. The point was that the Out of Africa theory is fucking dated and those bones being found is just another one to bring that old piece of shit theory to its final conclusion.

>>84770489
That you're a newfag, holy fuck.
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>>84770508
>still hasn't defined it
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>>84767750
You have no basis for the idea that posters here are lazy except a stereotype and your own feeling that being here is wasting time. Go do something more productive then. I have no reason to feel guilty for using my leisure time however I please, and I don't own one anime t-shirt.
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>>84770559
If you weren't an embarrassing newfag reddinigger you'd know the point of all this shit. I really hope you end up committing suicide, because you're an embarrassment.
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>>84770307
>when you've been Berned so badly you switch topics completely
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>>84770508
>The point was that the Out of Africa theory is fucking dated
...Due to one isolated case of dental records and nothing else? Are you insane?
Come on, just admit you loathe the idea of your ancestors being African.

>those bones being found is just another one
>another
What other """proof""" is there that the Out of Africa theory is wrong?

>newfag
People still say this shit? Regardless, I don't browse /pol/, so I don't get why the University of California is such a big deal.
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>>84767890
>to boot it?
The phrase is "to boot", not "to boot it".
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>>84770599
Why use words you don't know the definition of, anon?

I'm trying to be considerate here.
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>>84770122

If your father was a rapist that doesn't make you a rapist, if your father received the nobel prize that doesn't mean you are entitled to a nobel prize.

Going by your logic you should go back to tumblr and spread a "Unicellular Organism lives matter" campaign, since they've created empires, farming and basically all of human history.
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>>84767280
It's only when non whites do it
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>>84770657
>when you only start debating that civilizations shouldn't be attributed to racial/national identities when black people get brought up

I agree with what you're saying, it just seems weird to respond to me with it and not the people demanding evidence of African civilization.
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>>84768195
You don't seem to be familiar with the Chinese. They assume that every skilled individual can be mass produced, and if they can't, find ways to make it happen. If there weren't a hundred Eddys ready to go, China wouldn't be in the country.
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>>84770614
No due to several, they've found old skellies in Europe before, and I don't doubt they'll find them again in the future.
>Come on, just admit you loathe the idea of your ancestors being African.
No that's the funny thing is, there's two possibilities:
1. we all came from Africa, which means Africans today are basic borderline monkeys and Europeans, Asians, and so on are evolved and actually legitimately superior, or
2. Out of Africa is bullshit, Europeans were evolving differently from Africans, same way with Asians, and so on.
Pick your poison, retard.

>What other """proof""" is there that the Out of Africa theory is wrong?
The other similar kind of ancient bones you fucking retard.

>People still say this shit? Regardless, I don't browse /pol/
Regardless, it's painful how obvious it is that you're here from reddit. Stop acting like you've been here for any significant portion of time, you lying ape.

Seriously, stop drinking the reddit kool-aid and just think for one second instead of gobbling up every piece of shit thing you read on that worthless website.
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>>84770701
>it just seems weird to respond to me with it and not the people demanding evidence of African civilization.
they'll just start to argue semantics all over again, there's no way to get them to admit that africans never amounted to anything noteworthy
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>>84768065
Yeah what do you think you are? Not an animal? I mean you didn't even address what he said you just got mad because you know what he said was true and just called him a racist lmao. You've got nothing. Award for most retarded reddit comment of all time goes tooo....
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>>84770721
So all the evidence in favor of the Out of Africa theory is trumped by the existence of one dental record and some skeletons you can't name? Wow, conclusive.

>we all came from Africa, which means Africans today are basic borderline monkeys
Because people couldn't migrate back to Africa ever, right? Retard.

>The other similar kind of ancient bones you fucking retard.
Such as?

>it's painful how obvious it is that you're here from reddit
It's funny that you're mocking Africans when you're every bit as tribal as they are. You're shitting yourself with rage that I could be from reddit for absolutely no reason.

>just think for one second instead of gobbling up every piece of shit thing you read
Oh you were right all along. One single disputed controversial piece of evidence has really shown me the error of my ways.
>>
How hard would it be to become a warlord in Africa?

Like go there, buy some land, build a school and a hospital, gain the locals trust and then make them depend on you for employment.
Build a fortress, start a small militia, meanwhile bribing the right people along the way. etc etc

How long would you last?
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>>84770371
Hardly. First of Asians have a different approach to masculinity so you probably won't even recognize it. Their masculinity is centered around being a strong father figure and moral pillar. Also earning money (being a provider) or educated.
Think of the father figures in those '80s and '90s TV shows. That's the kind of masculinity more in keeping with the eastern traditional values.

Masculinity in the west has come to mean being a hardass. Having tons of muscle, being able to fight well, being able to grow a beard, being able to drink a lot. All these things are counter to traditional Asian values of masculinity, where you don't want to get into fights because your responsibility is to your family and you're stroking your ego at their expense, or you don't want to be a drunkard. One of the few values that western and eastern masculinity still both share is the idea of being pragmatic and having know how.
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>>84769854
Where he gets off is that he genuinely isn't racist. A racist would take it as read that the Congolese lacked the ability to do anything for themselves, and simply patronize and laugh at them. He patronizes and laughs at them for failing to do shit he assumed they could do if they weren't "lazy". His edge of meanness comes from his belief that any of them could do what a Chinese could if they just had more self-discipline.
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>>84770747

>there's no way to get them to admit that africans never amounted to anything noteworthy

Africans did, black africans didn't, the nubian dynasty in the Egypt empire was indeed black, but guess which dynasty was the last of the intermediate period before the late period and subsequent decline started.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ancient_Egyptian_dynasties

I'm not the type of /pol/tard going on rants about black people being subhumans, I just agree with facts, and the facts are they've been historically unable to maintain an stable civilization.
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>>84770122
This is a gem of b8, eagerly swallowed by many posters. 8/8 senpai.
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>>84770935
>an stable civilization
The Ethiopian Empire lasted from 1137 to 1974.
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>>84770624
Jeez im not the guy you were responding too but you seem very miserable, lonely and without friends. how embarrassing...
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>>84770304
Don't be ridiculous, anyone who has any business here owns a laptop. Mobile internet is for spades.
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>>84770895
>shitting yourself with rage
You are most certainly from reddit lmao
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>>84770895
This won't get you anywhere. This site isn't for you.
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>>84770984
Wow, one single "empire" that was so worthless it was ignored by everyone besides shitty little italy. It's like you want to be seen as desperate to find a black civilization. On top of that ethiopia only got anywhere because they had contact with the rest of the world
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>>84771072
>>84771023
Wow..Is this the power of /pol/?
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>>84771072
I don't think he'll ever understand where he doesn't belong.
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>>84770984

>Ethiopian Empire

You mean the same Ethiopian Empire stablished with the bases of Orthodox Christianity goverment which spawned from the Roman/Constantinoplean schism between Orthodox and what would later become the Vatican? And that dropped into it's dark ages quicker than any other normal empire?

The Ethiopian Empire is the old world equivalent of the ORIGINAL CHARACTER DON'T STEAL, please come up with something that's actually an original black empire which worked and did anything noteworthy for history.
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>>84770935
>>84771102
The Kingdom of Kongo lasted from 1390 to 1891.
The Mali Empire lasted from 1230 to 1670.
Ghana Empire from 400 until 1200.
Oyo Empire from 1300 until 1896.

Man, you suck at history.
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>>84771199

are you getting your "empires" off Google+Wikipedia?
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>>84771161
>"Haha Africans never did anything! Prove me wrong!"
>What about X
>"No, no, not good enuff! >:("

Fuck off.

This is why arguing with you retards is such a chore. You ask for evidence, get it, and then screech that it's not perfect in some minor way.
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>>84771226
I guess that means they never existed. Silly me.
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>>84771236

You're not giving any counter-arguments with actual data, you're just throwing a tantrum because I actually did.
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>>84771199
Tell me what were their social systems, currency, writing, language, achievements, inventions, anything? Or are they just something you looked up on wikipedia
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>>84771288
You didn't give a counter argument, you just moved the goal posts. It was entirely irrelevant and just an opportunity to shit on Africans. Again.

By the way, if you can give a complete run down of Ethiopian history, then that means they were noteworthy. You literally proved yourself wrong.
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>>84771373

>If you studied something that means it's instantly, world-wide noteworthy

I studied people like Galvarino and Arturo Pratt in elementary, ever heard about them?
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>>84771330
Why? The faggot was asking about stable black civilizations, I provided some.

Discounting them because they don't fit into your arbitrary standards is bullshit and you know it.
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>>84771425
>world-wide noteworthy
Oh so are we adding another adjective? Just keeping moving those goal posts. Noteworthy means "worth paying attention to", and you paid attention to the history of Ethiopia.
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>>84771236
You seem to be confused, it's pretty obvious that what everyone means in this thread is subsaharan africans never really created anything on par with Europe, india, the middle east, asia, anywhere. You take that since nobody specified that that it means you can change the argument to whatever you want it to be when it suits you. It's very childish and on top of that you can't stop resorting to personal attacks. It's pretty sad
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>>84771485
That's not what was discussed at all. This guy: >>84770935 said "They've been historically unable to maintain an stable civilization", that's what I responded to with evidence.

>It's very childish and on top of that you can't stop resorting to personal attacks. It's pretty sad
Is this the part where you pretend to play the impartial third party, except you only pull up the people you disagree with?
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>>84771443

So you've still got no data about the empire you mostly likely got off wikipedia after googling 'African Empires'.

>>84771482

>you paid attention to the history of Ethiopia.

Because I felt like studying stuff, and again you just dismissed my example, if I felt like studying about the way the city I live in was built and developed that doesn't mean everyone in 4chan should instantly know and respect it, because it's still a small town in a lost place of La Mancha, the name of which I have no desire to call to mind.
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>>84771443
Sigh, you don't seem to realize that some africans finally creating an "empire" which achieved nothing means nothing, i mean you can't name anything they've done, a child can dress up as a fireman all he wants but that doesn't mean he's actually a fireman lmao, if you think sitting there for 500 years pretty much stagnant is a "successful" civilization then you need to get your head checked
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>>84771236
No, the problem is that people here know history and say what they say after having looked at the facts, whereas you are only Googling lines of history at a time in order to bolster an essentially irrational argument.

I accepted the "white empire kept them down" "THEY WUZ KANGZ" interpretation from childhood until last year. I was 31. You don't reach these conclusions easily or glibly in this society, and nobody here is just Cletus. We've learned enough history to perceive evidence that demands a verdict.
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>>84771528
Not him, but you're clearly flailing. When I air my cheap opinions and someone who knows their shit better than I do replies, I stay quiet afterwards. You might want to go find some other threads.
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>>84766947
He's super lazy. Did you not watch the video, OP.
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>>84771006
I'm phoneposting with my laptop 10 feet away

The FACT is Clover is a better 4chan format than any extension no matter how tailored
The >le mobile poster haters need a fucking bullet to the head. Goddamn dinosaurs
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>>84766947
It's great that this film has become so familiar to us, despite being relatively buried. The director hasn't been able to make a film since - why is that, do we think?
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>>84771807
Your laziness is of a piece - you know no more of history than Wiki bluffing, and you forfeit the right to the privileges others have won for you by choosing a travesty over the real interface. People like you are why society suffers shit architecture and shit furniture. You want to wipe out your superiors, but you never will. Keep on praying for the Muslims to come and murder your masters, caitiff!

Mobile 4chan isn't 4chan.
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>>84771867
>mobile4chan isn't 4chan
Autist overload
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>>84771528
Lol i never said i was a third party i agree and completely understand that africans have done jack shit, not at their direct fault of course, they simply did not evolve in the same environment and thus is a completely different end result. Just because you can classify something as both as human doesn't mean they will act the same
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