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How do you feel about the Stark line getting FISHED?

Anyone else they could just be like normies and love season six for all the "epic" action? I almost wish I never read the books because I wouldnt know what was being left out.
I just dont see how no one notices the massive quality drop when you compare a single scene of season 1 to now.

>>84661560
>robb died
>bran and arya will likely never breed
>rickon will disappear
>sansa will be VALED

>jon will probably be lord of winterfell or king the north

Not so bad, I guess.

Shit Tully genes sorted them all out.

>>84661560
I just still fucking miss Ned
I get GRRM wanting to subvert things but its a shame he writes the stereotype characters he wants to play off of so much better than anything else

Modern day Isaac Hempstead Wright

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*happens*

>>84661560
>>84661605

You breed with Tully, your line gets sullied

>>84661690
pretty much all the riverlanders except the blackwoods (and maybe the darrys) are subhuman

Would Margaery fuck a Dothraki Khal if his khalazar was about to siege Highgarden?

>>84661398
Stannis would probs rather lose to Robb than make an agreement.

>>84661605
This.

Tully genes eventually kill themselves off, just take thousands of innocent lives down with them first

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>>84661560
Not so bad

>>84661523
anyone know where i can find the behind the scenes video of the man in the dragon green screen suit flying behind tyrion? funniest shit ever

>>84661605
I honestly thought they were gonna keep Rickon alive for precisely this reason.

>>84661663
I really dont see how their relationship would work if they have sex beyond simple attraction or hate fucking
Dany feels entitled to rule and should not feel very good feelings toward a Stark who threatens this.At best she could rightly reason a simple marriage would resolve the issue the most simply.
Jon would mostly hold Daenarys in contempt or care very little about her, he would only want a good deal to help his people. So he would be maybe the second king who knelt. He would tell her every thing she had done wrong and not like any part of her attitude.
Neither is even really attracted to each others personality type. Dany likes assertive bad boys who go after her aggressively and kill the same, Jon is not like this. Jon likes a girl who goes after him aggressively and basically forces him into a relationship, Dany is not like this either.

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>>84661523

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Does anyone have a higher quality screencap of this scene?
It's from S5E9 after twenty good men raided the Baratheon army camp.

I'd like it for my Melly folder, plus I like the look of the Baratheon guard uniforms.

>>84661173

Wouldn't Tyrion be dead if Stannis had won the Blackwater? Jaime would be the last living child of Tywin, and Tywin would sue for peace and pledge fealty to Robb rather than Stannis to save his only chance of continuing his line. Then it's the Lannisters and Starks vs. Stannis.

The wildcard now is the Tyrells. Stannis can marry Shireen off to one of Mace's sons, but Robb could just as easily do it too by marrying off Sansa. Tywin would plead Robb to get on the offensive and place Tommen on the throne in exchange for the North's independence.


My favorite "alt timeline" is still one where Ned goes to the wall and becomes lord commander instead of Jon, but it's impossible to have a northern rebellion without Ned dying.

>>84661837
Just because that's the way it worked out with ginger minge doesn't mean that's how he always is with relationship chemistry. Danny is a more established pattern, though I wouldn't put it past her to be able to abide a formal arrangement with some fringe benefits and being willing to fuck around at just the prospects of something like that.

>>84661953
> Tyron
hes infinitely more valuable alive, and easily recognizable. Any sane knight would capture him, as well as Cersei. She'd later be killed, and her kids forced into the Faith/Watch but Tyrion is no guiltier of treason then any other minor lord sword to Joffery. Stannis is not above taking hostages, as Theon attests.

Tywin would have to choose between Jamie and Tyrion. But if he sues for peace with stannis, who would also have Sansa, he presumably could keep Jamie alive by threatening to kill Sansa.

>>84662234
>She'd later be killed, and her kids forced into the Faith/Watch

god I'd pay money to see Joffrey in the Night's Watch, that sounds fucking hilarious.

>>84662234
Wouldn't you have to kill Cersei, Jamie and all the kids if they were proven to be incest children? Which they would have to be for Stannis to sit the throne.

>>84662273
joffrey is not a coward tho. only the show made him like this.
To quote (Pyp talking about Grenn?) he's too stupid to be a coward. Like when he wanted to train with Robb using live steel.

Aside from his young age, he would do fine I think, once he learned -the hard way- that he's not in charge there.

why did they make meryn trant into pedo?

>>84662386
I keep forgetting that it was Cersei who forced Joffrey back into the red keep during the battle of the blackwater.

Reminder that Joffrey kicked Robb's ass.

>>84662384
Depends, stannis let Gilly and her kid live despite the incest, and they don't have any value to him. Cersei is dead as shit, infidelity as a queen is treason. Jamie is probably dead too, but he's still in Robbs custody.

>>84662273
would be funnier to see him go to war with the goldcloaks
>few thousands guardsman - most of whom just enlisted in the city watch days ago - going to war against 20k hardened soldiers who have been at war for a year

>>84662386
What about when Arya fucked him up?

>>84662498
Because he was a Tully.

>>84662498
In war + one on one.

>>84662624
he was very drunk, caught off guard, and threatened by a direwolf

>>84662546
I thought I recalled Ned's reasons for going to Cersei was so the children weren't killed. But I didn't know if that was the law or if Robert would kill them in a rage.

>>84662685
I'd have kicked its ass desu.

>>84662624
he was trying to kill her and Mycah... That makes him cruel, not a coward. And then he was jumped by a fucking wolf.

Given how the training sequence with Robb seem to implying that he was holding his own against him, I'd say that him failing to hit anything against arya/mycah was more random chance, or just being too mad to fight properly.

>>84662720
Naw there isn't enough blood for him to be able to finish.

>>84662748
>holding his own
I thought he was getting destroyed so he had to pull the 'muh live steel' thing to get out of it

>>84662720
>sansa having a landing strip
she'd go full bush, or fully shaven.

>>84662720
She is canonically that hideous, yes.

>>84662845
'light' insults were flying back&forth between the 2, if Robb had been destroying him think he would have said something about it. He was fuming.

>>84662877
She's a Queen, queens have well groomed pussy hair

>>84662909
found the passage
>"You got more swats than you gave, Joff,"
absolutely blown the fuck out

>>84662748
>And then he was jumped by a fucking wolf.
Yeah and he cried like a lil bitch about it

>>84663021
I know right? Most 11y/o kids attacked by wolves just kick their asses and ask them they want more. Because most people are cartoon characters.

>>84662211
I just don't see either has being really attracted to each other beyond both just being good looking people
Jon would immediately recognize all of Dany's flaws, and unless she promised to send all her dragons North to fight the WWs he would not really like her.
Dany will not only be annoyed at Jon not caring about her dragons, her claim to the throne, considering her just another of the three monarchs claiming the throne he has dealt with, pointing out her irrelevance to what he truly cares about, and just pointing general failures of character, she will also be not attracted to his general meekness. At best she is attracted by his hard rejection and straightforwardness, with a touch of attraction to his now high status, fighting ability, and not making a big deal of his Resurrection.
They could be a couple only if Dany is aggressive in pursuing a relationship with the first person who does not really want her

>>84661800
It was an snl joke video

>>84661523
When will they learn?

Is there any way for Hot Pie to end up in bed with a queen? Cersei, Margaery, Dany?

>>84663145
He was 12 in AGOT

>>84663242
No, Dead, Maybe

>>84663425
Let's assume Margaery is alive

>he died so you could find what you have lost
literally what the fuck did bloodraven mean by that?

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*blocks your path*

>>84661605
>>sansa will be VALED
elaborate

>>84663865
vague meaningless mystical bullshit that sounds kinda cool

>>84666010
is bloodraven D&D?

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I just had a dream that I was Michelle Pfeiffer's agent and I was trying to cast her in GoT.

Who'd you cast her as? Current Michelle, or prime (catwoman) Michelle.

>>84666127
ayyyyyyy lmao

>>84661523
thats just fucking embarrassing.

>>84661577
you couldn't be more correct

>>84661577
>I almost wish I never read the books because I wouldnt know what was being left out.
This would've worked for season 2-4.
But you don't need to have read the books to see that S5/6 are full of shit that doesn't make any sense at all. You just need a turned on brain, which most showfags lack.

>>84661523
Will they stack the 2 boxes for the Jon/Bran scenes?

>>84666127
Current : Barbrey Dustin
Prime : Tysha

>page 647181

>>84668386
>page

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>>84661605
>arya will likely never breed

Not on my watch

>>84661523
why would they cast a manlet to play a monster person 100% covered by make up?

>>84663147
Implying it wont be GoT's greatest love story

>>84669111
revels her true form to Gendry in S7, watch him cut his own throat

>>84669100
She'll get bred by Jon, her Stark looks give her a pass, just like Jon's do

>>84669341
the manlets are rising to protect the original manlets (the children)

What would be the most kino way for Dany to die?
>she should be eaten alive by her precious dragons while crying for them to stop, after being raped by someone, perhaps Jamie or stone man Mormot.

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Does someone in the costume department have a fetish or did they blow the show's budget on CGI lizards and now everyone has to share outfits?

>>84670185
In lore, how the fuck did they raise that statue and how are the brittle cliffs below supporting such a huge amount of weight?

>>84670610
In lore, how do people feel about sailing under man's underpants to enter the bay?

>>84661560
>8 thousand year old family line
>9 people actually named Stark
Are Starks the least fertile house?

>>84670610
presumably the same way they made the colossus of rhodes irl

>>84670627
Sometimes burning oil drips out of his ass, so I imagine it's pretty intense

>>84670544
Childbirth that brings the dawn and kills her dragons

Only death can pay for life

>>84670557
>female commissar cosplay convention
D&D was a mistake

>>84670668
>he fell for the colossus of rhodes meme

>>84670544
She tries to do the "walking into fire" thing again without realizing her fire resistance is situational and her skin melts off

>>84670721
less of a meme than the hanging gardens which literally didn't exist

>>84670683
Gay.

>>84670544
She goes mental when she gets the throne and ends up burning everyone. Gets killed by Tywin.

>>84670069
Nice art, but isnt the long bridge supposed to connect two halves of the city. The noble side and the not so noble side?

>>84670544
"Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelt fouler."

I imagine it's pretty intense.

Why didn't another house build another bridge further north along the Trident

>>84670683
gay like dildos

>>84661837

Well Dany doesn't give a fuck about the 7 kingdoms as a whole as she has already promised Dorne and the Iron Islands their independence. Jon will ask for the same, Dany will say blah blah blah your father tried to have me killed and then Varys will explain to her that Ned was the only person who tried to stop the assassination. Then they team up for White Walker shenanigans and becomes friends.

>>84670908
She only promised the Iron Isles independence and even then only on certain conditions that she would've instituted had she ruled them anyway

>>84664607
Why was he such a dick?

>>84670958
>>84670908
I bet Dany is going to give everyone independence and make some sort of democracy, to show her as a true visionary and liberator.

>>84670958
Are you fucking stupid?

>>84671021
Are you?

You thought Dany was gonna let Ironshits keep raping and reaving if she ruled them?

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Was it rape?

>"let the people choose their own leaders"
>Iron Isles freely elects Euron
>Euron is honest enough to admit he killed Balon and that he was leading them to ruin
>"no, not you, Yara i'll help you pull a Cleon/Robert on a freely elected King"

What did D&D mean by this?

>>84671135
Yes, Lyanna raped him.

>>84671159
>just be yourself
>no not like that
Burger queen was a mistake

>>84666127

Current: Genna Lannister

Prime: Joanna Lannister

>>84670667
it's not about fertility, it's about chronic retardation
>That's a Brandon, the tall one with the dreamy face, he was Brandon the Shipwright, because he loved the sea. His tomb is empty. He tried to sail west across the Sunset Sea and was never seen again. His son was Brandon the Burner, because he put the torch to all his father's ships in grief.
>He rode into the Red Keep with a few companions, shouting for Prince Rhaegar to come out and die.
the tully genes are an improvement, honestly

>>84671329
Adding water to urine simply makes a larger mess.

>>84661523
test

>>84671135
does anyone think ti would have been possible for lynna to quell the civil war and unite the kingdom, under rhaegar

having a stark queen would have helped deal with the saltyness of ned's dad's death

>>84670667
Starks probably had it become their tradition that younger male siblings would be brainwashed into relishing the idea of fighting in the Wall, or fighting in dumb foreign wars where they'd probably get killed off. But anything that'd have the younger siblings abjuring their familial inheritance or be slaughtered so they wouldn't be a threat to the main Stark family line in time.

I don't know about any other countries (though I remember it being somewhat the same in England), but regarding France, the only ever players that ever came close to dethroning the French King were "prince de sang", also known as "les messieurs de France", who were the French king's brothers, uncles, cousins, etc... A quick rundown: Phillipe le Mauvais, who allied with the British in the HYW was Jean (I) le Bon's cousin. Phillipe le Téméraire, who attempted to rob the throne of France was Louis XI's cousin. Le Grand Condé, who attempted to subjugate Louis XIV's monarchy was also his cousin twice or thrice removed. Hell, one of the more prominent members of la Ligue in the French religious war was Henry III's brother that I remember.
(France has a long history of bullies).

What I'm trying to drive at is that sometimes, thinning out the family isn't as detrimental as it might seem. Karstarks were allowed to live since they had their lands to busy them, and weren't going to try to supplant the Starks, but they're the only the cadet line the Starks were going to aquiesce to.

>>84671848
>thinning out the family isn't as detrimental as it might seem
this, unless you have a lot of new land/titles to give to them, having extra family around can be a bad thing
probably one of the reasons walder tried to install his kids in as many castles as possible, although a shitstorm upon is death is probably inevitable anyway with zombiefu hanging heirs

>>84670742
>Tywin
Will the Rains of Castamere play in the credits?

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>>84671900
>unless you have a lot of new land/titles to give to them, having extra family around can be a bad thing
And even then, it's not even guaranteed that they won't they betray you, once their ambition has them realize they've got enough legitimacy from the sheer fact they're of royal blood to start canpaigning against the rulers of the land.

Again, don't mean to sperg out about history again, but so you know I'm not making this up, but Louis XIV actually schemed and warred for his grand son to be crowned king of Spain.

Within even less than some decades though, the Spanish Bourbons smartened up and realizing that meant they now had claims over France and promptly tried to fulfill them in the war of the quadruple alliance.

Basically don't trust cadet lines. France tried them out with the "apanage", but it cost them a lot more harm than good, though it did bring Lorraine and Anjou and Britanny into the realm.

Cadet lines are destined to grow butthurt they aren't the top. Just kill them off as soon as your heir has an heir.

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daily reminder that d&d first thought the children of the forest were LITERAL children

>>84672106
probably just an easier way to work with budget

>>84671593
Not if you add very much water.

>>84672148
Ah, the "Public Swimming Pool" effect

>>84672106
That doesn't even stand out as particularly stupid for them, anon.

>>84671593
that's a pretty dumb analogy
genetics don't compile like that, not even in the gurmverse

>>84670721
if definitely existed
its just not as big as its often portrayed
>>84670740
as for the hanging gardens we really don't know

you have to remember that whole area was fertile as fuck compared to how it is today, so its possible they just had lots of floral decoration in babylons temples and palaces, enough so that travellers would go back west and talk about how amazing it was

>>84671000
"im going to break the wheel"

>>84672241
in context that line could easily be interpreted as "I'm going to centralise power"

>>84672263
Kinda reeked of absolutism, especially that she was appalled by "ugh how dare my vassals have power!!! not! good!". Even the first Targaryens weren't autistic enough to try that out, since they knew the population was more loyal to their ancestral kings and lords than foreign rulers.

>>84672241
>tfw people are still trying to make sense of D&D's meme lines that won't ever come into play

>The North remembers, Lady Sansa!
>Gets flayed. No one in the north does shit for Sansa, had to be rescued by the Vale, then they crowned some bastard deserter.

>>84671329
>one bran burned ships in his grief and so he was dumb
>another one lawfully challenged a prince from a diminished house to a trial by combat and so he was dumb
>this condemns a line that stretches back to the dawn age

well i spotted the chronic retardation but it doesn't look like it's stark

>>84672359
That's the spirit, anon. Nothing stupid about bellowing "RAYGAR TREGARRYEN CUM OAT ADN DYE!!!!!!" at a building from which Rhaegar Targaryen's hundreds of miles away.

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>>84672400
>not being psychic and knowing where rhaegar is even though the author hasn't told you makes you stupid

>>84672359
>king is clearly mad
>let's poke him

>>84661560
The tully line is the one that is dead, John is still half stark

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>>84672432
Brandon Stark was too stupid to live. He doesn't even deserve *your* support let alone mine.

>>84672437
Aerys was seen as the pathetic kind of mad, with delusions of grandeur that went nowhere. At that point he hadn't violated trials by combat. What he did to Brandon and the others is a large part of why he started to be called the Mad King.

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>>84672497
You might feel that way but my point still stands.

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>>84661931
took me 4000 million hours in paint

>>84672546
Your timing is slightly off, the flag is obscuring the soldier on the right.

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>yfw Theon is Azor

>Died a Greyjoy
>Became Reek
>Reborn as a Greyjoy amongst smoke and salt
>When Melisandre sees only Snow in her vision it is because Ramsay is beside Reek
>The red comet that signifies Azor's return happens the same time Theon gets reborn/baptized by the ironborn priest

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>>84672561
couldn't post, because a chink is in charge of 4chan now, but here it is

Sandor & Victarion never met each other.

>>84673002
The dusky woman and shae never met each other.

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We are back!
Have some canon Sansan to celibate.

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>>84672603
What is dead may never die!

>tfw they cut a massive money suicide
What hacks

>>84672302
But absolute power is the best way to pull Westeros out of it's stagnant existence.

Thanks to dragons Westeros has unified laws, no First Night, unified economy, more trade, less war, a fucking road connecting them. But now they're gone and you can't empower the peasant class because the lords don't want that, see Aegon V and how everyone rich loved Tywin for getting rid of Aegon's reforms

>>84666791
Well to be fair they didn't expect Bran's actor to suddenly be taller than the fucking mountain after a year of puberty. They gotta make him still seem like a kid somehow.

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>>84673293
wow the show aesthetic is so bland and unimaginative

>>84673079
Jaqen H'ghar and kindly man never met each other.

>>84673293
I don't like the fact that Euron looks nothing like book Euron but I do like the fact they actually look related to each other

>>84663147
So Jon is tsundre for her?

I would watch that.

There must always be a Night's King

>Jon Snow: ''The weight.. Of such a burden.. It must be mine, for there is no othe-''
>Stannis: ''JON SNOW... You hold a grim destiny in your hands, Lord Commander. But it is not your own..''
>Jon Snow: ''YOUR GRACE?! By the gods...''
>Stannis: ''The Mad Queens flames... Sealed my fate.. The world of the living, can no longer comfort me...''
>Stannis: ''Place the crown upon my head, Jon Snow. Forever more, I, will be the Night's King.''
>Jon Snow:''No your grace.. I canno-''
>Stannis: ''DO IT JON SNOW! You and seven kingdoms have your own destinies to fulfill. This last act of service... Is mine.''
>Jon Snow: ''You will not be forgotten.. Your grac-''
>Stannis: ''I must be forgotten! If Westeros is to live free from the tyranny of fear. They must never know what was done here today.''
>Stannis: ''Now, GO! Stay south of the Wall, and never return...''

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What is King Euron's masterplan? Does he have an end game?

>>84673894
chaosh

>>84673894
>Valyrian steel armour
>Horn that can control the dragons
>Hints that he's able to warg

He's too powerful and he's gonna get fucked by Victarion somehow

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Why is my ear so little?
Why do I have little ear?

So 10 days. No more trailers? Shit I can't remember if there was anything near the final days before each season? Was there a pattern of a teaser and two trailers? Or three full trailers? I guess we just got to go with what they gave us.

>>84661523
now that hbo is on hulu, anyone know how many seasons they have? I might be interested if hulu has them all

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Rate my ear.

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>>84674296
>>84674307
Did somebody ever try this technique on you?

>>84667243
They're gonna need a lot more than 2 boxes for jon/bran scenes. And that's just when bran is sitting down.

>>84661523
reminder that the big bad intimidating night king is standing next to a sixteen year old

>>84661523
Was Dinklage recast as a white walker?

>>84673585
>Lyseni Whore
kek

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Captain Maario Naharis

>>84674049
The new Iron born characters are so much better than the new Dorne ones
I actually adore Victarion, his stupidity and bad ass fighting is great
>That moment when he gets hard at the idea of fucking Asha and has to remind himself she is Balons daughter

>>84673243
>>84673243
>>84673243

Get in here bros, we need to defend ASOIAF from tolkienfags

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>>84661523

>>84661560
Catelyn CUTE!!

>>84661605
Salsa will be married off to some arsehole for her claim on Riverrun as part of the "bittersweet" ending Gurm has promised

not before Littlefinger gives her the Littlefinger though

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>>84677777
What a waste of digits. Kill yourself you dogshit-tier mistake of a human.

>>84677777
fucking faggot

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Season 7 premieres in
10 Days 04 Hours 04 Minutes

>>84677838
Who gives a shit

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>>84677777

>>84677804
>>84677834
>assblasted Jonsafags

Quints confirm

>>>/tumblr/

>>84677899 (You)
You

>>84674314
1/1

>>84677255
Why? Tolkien is better

>>84678064
Are you fucking serious?

>>84678073
Yes?
Germ is a hack, a plagiarist, a pedophile, lazy, his prose is terrible, and he writes too many self inserts and random storylines and characters nobody except his autistic ass cares about

>>84678129
But somehow he is incredibly popular and writes great books. What went right?

>>84678129
He's more popular, iconic, and successful than Tolkien will ever be. His characters are among the most well developed and groundbreaking in this century's literature, and his work is already better than anything that rich conservative pretentious autist Tolkien did

>>84677838
That's impossible. We haven't had season five yet.

>>84678228
Replying twice wasn't necessary, sperg

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imagine if gurm had to write one book per year, like d&d have to write one season per year.

>>84678293
>Can't provide counter argument

>s-samefag!!!

Tolkientards, everyone.

LOTR is for little kids

Worse line?

Where are my niece and nephew?...Lets go murder them

Or

You want a good girl, but you need the bad pussy

>>84678422
Those are my nieces and nephews out there.

>>84678422
"I drink and I know things"

>>84678344
No I just don't give a fuck because I'm not interesting in arguing with a 12 year old germ fanboy

>>84678375
Go away r/asoiaf

>>84678422
That's my father that's my uncle benjen that's my aunt Lyanna her statue is in the crypts that's howland reed that's ser arthur dayne he's better than my father he stabbed him in the back

>>84678745
that's my forced exposition. I need it so redditors can follow this very simple show.

>>84671135
Just any normie reading the books can just interpret it as love and Jon is supposed to be the savior.

Subtext suggests a less black and white relationship

>>84673585
What is B standing in for?

>>84678745
Now imagine Emilia trying to 'act' her way through these lines

>>84678860
Do normies even remember ned

>>84679410
Most normies liked the show because of him.

>>84679084
Ser Bennis of the Brownshield

>>84679410
Of course he was a massive favorite

>>84679004
Rhaegar probably woo'd her with promises of a devoted love and a way to escape robert, but just wanted her womb. The minute she was pregnant he was done and kept her captive and fled back to protect his throne while she gestated.

>>84679788
Ive always wished that the twist would be Robert was completely right and Rhaegar actually did kidnap her
But your version is probably the most accurate. It annoys me that more people dont realize that Rhaegar was certainly a huge asshole like every other prophesy obsessed Targ and ruined everything

>>84673546

It is more to the point that this gay fan art

>>84679908
Rhaegar fags are retards

>>84661523
Did hodor died because bran wouldn't stop growing?

>>84679908
B-but he's so pretty. Pretty people can't be evil. Honestly though, the fact that EVERYONE in the story is so enchanted with Rhaegar, outside of Robert, makes me think he's probably going to turn out to be a bit of an asshole. Characters aren't great judges of character, on the whole, throughout the series.

>>84680075
GRRM makes a point of subverting the good looking means good person so he is definitely going to be an asshole. For fucks sake his only decisive action was not getting rid of his bat shit crazy father, it was running off with a girl in a way guaranteed to cause conflict.
But the most interesting thing is to me is the fact Ned never even thinks about Rhaegar. How the fuck is that possible? He says he has not thought about him in years. Every character basically thinks about him all the time except Ned who has a very good reason to remember him. Ned was actually a pretty mysterious character when you think about it

>>84680075
Guy is described as:-
1) Inhumanely beautiful.
2) Stunningly brilliant, even genius.
3) Magical with a lance, I mean he unhorsed a sword of the morning and dueled Robert Baratheon for a good long while.
4) One of the best men BARRISTAN FRICKIN SELMY ever knew.
5) Beloved by the small folk, no small feat when you take his father into consideration.
6) His personality is said to be, like everything else about him, oh so perfect and attractive with brooding eyes and demeanor, etc.
7) Not to mention, his skill with harps and song had enough brilliance to make an Arya look-alike cry.

So, why is he described in this way? Martin is usually so good at giving characters depth and complexity, however Rhaegar is put, from the very beginning, into a class of his own. Guy is literally one of the most perfect characters ever written. I'm not putting out hyperbole, I'm not just talking about ASOIAF, I am talking about ALL of fiction. He is the most perfect human character I've read about, topping Gandhi if you listen to some of the stuff that's being said.

>>84680059
Targ fags in general are the worse
>But they are the rightful heirs
To a throne they created by force and lost by force
>They are magical
Half of their history is lighting themselves and others on fire
>Special bloodline
Of incest
That creepy family that all has the same hair and general appearance and is way too pale is the real world equivalent of the Targs

>>84680249
Because he is actually an asshole who ruined everything through obsession with prophecy. His greatest talent was not getting blamed for everything

>>84680196
I definitely think Ned's chapters in GOT are going to look different in retrospect (if the books re ever finished). Certain stuff is kind of obvious now, for example, people often neglect that almost the central part of Ned's story in GOT is his investigation into whether or not Robert would kill kids. it comes up with Tywins killing of Rhaegar's kids, with Brans fall from the tower, with Mycah, with Cersei's children, and again with Dany and Rhaego. This is all dancing around the most sensitive issue, one Ned neglects to directly think on, "would robert have killed Lyanna's kid?"

>>84680249
It'll probably turn out that he's got some kind of Nietzschian thing going on, with a healthy dose of Darwin to balance him out.
Basically a genius who's the best at everything would probably lack self-awareness and dehumanize all the 'lesser people' around him.

>>84680717
he already believed he was the prince that was promised. Normally in stories the good guys don't believe or are the phrophesized hero, or are completely unaware of the prophecies existence. The fact that his default setting was "of course thats me" belies an extremely narcissistic personality. He later has to change it to his kids when, like a pageant mom past her glory, he realized he wasn't quite living up to the prophecy.

When Joffrey was power tripping as king, if he ordered his guards to kill his mother and grand father, would they do it?

>>84680941
Pretty much the same thing that happened when Tyrion pointed a crossbow at him: "Don't be ridiculous."
Remember that the Joffrey is under regency so if the Kingsguard and other servants are doing their jobs right they won't obey dangerous orders like that without consulting Cersei who obviously would say no. (Jaime explains this in one of his last ASOS chapters.) Obviously Joffrey is not above ordering assassinations, or he could find some people personally loyal to him and start a war, but it would be simpler to just fire Tywin, appoint a replacement, and let the power struggle ensue. Doesn't really end up benefiting Joffrey though but neither would those other things.

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>>84677382
>When you see his cock for the first time and realise he wasn't lying

>>84680249
Like father like son.
Rhaegar and Jon are two of the most massive obnoxious shameless gary stus ever written.

Alright so I got fucking baned but let me repeat what I wanted to say
Based Jon's cousin thread thank you op
Also why the fuck don't we know the title of the season premiere yet?

>>84682512
What do you think of "Queen's landing"?

>>84680249
Lots of thse things are highly debatable.

>Stunningly brilliant, even genius.
>Ohhh I read in some books that I must be a warrior! MASTER AT ARMS! train me! ME! Gonna BTFO robert baratheon!
>Oops! Apparently warriors > harpists

>One of the best men BARRISTAN FRICKIN SELMY ever knew.
Barristan is biased as fuck. Just look at what he thinks of Daenerys... He doesn't even realize she's Mad King with teats.
And even if Lyanna was not a kidnapping/rape, it was still a horrible move that got thousands of people killed. Including her brother/father. That's all on Rhaegar.

>Beloved by the small folk, no small feat when you take his father into consideration.
This is entirely irrelevant, the smallfolk doesn't know shit, the story made that clear times and times again.. Some of them think Eddard a monster because "he killed Robert baratheon"... He might go down in history as a Kingslayer for the smallfolks. Some think Brienne killed Renly. Some think Catelyn did. Some think Loras, or others of his Rainbow Guard. Just about anyone who was within 3 miles of Renly really.

And in some chapter (arya's?) we hear commoners talk about how things were better under the old king, and when someone asks Roberts? They reply "Aerys". Aerys who wanted to burn KL and hundreds of thousands of people alive.

If they still love Aerys, what does that say about their opinions of their rulers?

The story puts a lot of emphasis on how commoners don't know shit and thus have worthless opinions.

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>>84677777
/Ourship/

>new preston
>it's about the corpulent dark-skinned harlot

Why do they have the actors stand with their legs so far apart

does anyone have that pic of the leaks?
i've gone through a couple of the old threads and can't find it

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>>84682913
Is she best waifu? I think she is.

>>84683802
nvrmind i got it

>>84679084
Brandon Stark

>>84683843
threadly reminder she will entrance Faegon, not Arriane. He will use his power as king to legitimize her and her sisters so she is of suitable birth to marry. Sand snakes will then kill doran and Arriane to inherit as Oberan's heirs, means Ellia foolhardy lust results in a martell civil war..

>>84685154
Aegon, who's been highly educated, will pull an Unworthy and legitimize all of someone's bastards?

And be a dumbass by spurning the main branch?

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>>84684379
Mind posting it here, friend?

>>84685525
Did you read ADWD? He was tricked like an idiot by Tryion into abandoning Dany, who has Dragons and an undisputed lineage, thus invalidating any doubts people might have about his own legitimacy, all because tyrion pokes his ego. He's brash and lacks foresight.

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>>84685655

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>>84685707
Thank you anon.

>>84685154
don't really care who aegon/arianne end up with, I mostly just want to read more about Elia tauting a man to overpower her and spank her, and kissing older men and all.

>>84685662
Fits of Targtard anger doesn't mean anything is possible

>>84685811
I think the story is heading that way. Arianne continued failures at seduction, the inordinate amount of time given to Ellia's characterization, her unexactingly winning the race instead of Arianne at Ghost Hill, her constant reminders of Lyanna. Rhaegar's son is going to leave a donnish princess for a female jouster, only this time the prince is fleeing to an Ellia, not away from one.

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>>84685932
Arianne is great at seducing virgins though

joffrey was poisoned, but by whom and how? Little finger?

>>84671848
The Greystarks used to rule over the area the Manderlys rule now.

>>84680030
The fan art resembles how the characters are actually described you faggot.

>>84677777
>implying radmure and his freyspawn will die

>>84677255
Please don't bring that retarded flame war here
and reminder that gurm praises tolkien all the time

>>84680466
I think people ignore a lot of parts of Neds story that really redeem and flesh his actions out
>He immediately knew going to kings landing was a bad idea and he would be disastrous at politics. He resists the idea completely, its Cat and her tully family duty honor bullshit that him to go
>As you said he is much more suspicious of Robert than people really remember and honestly worries about him becoming his enemy
>His biggest irrational moments come with the Targs actually for some reason. Robert is actually completely right when it comes to that issue and Ned is absurdly irresponsible about it
>He is foolish when it comes to politics but with Littlefinger and Varys there he really had no chance
>Sansa screwed him over anyways

>>84686637
would you give sibel a rimjob? no other sex, and it's a one-time thing only.

>>84670544
Cuts her wrists on the Iron Throne after realising the battle is lost and she's to valuable a hostage to be captured alive.

>>84688124
Yeah but think on Neds actions knowing that Jon is a Targ and it makes more sense. If Robert is willing to kill one targ what will he do to Jon. Ned was trying to protect his nephew.

>>84688632
Or maybe he just doesn't like dead kids? Christ, not everything is about snuh.

>>84688700
Yeah it's a bit of both. Jon is another reason Ned is worried Robert could turn against him. It dates back to the rebellion and the schism between the two of them.

>>84688700
Ned's core defense in the event of Snow's identity being is revealed is that he was a child. Anything else, Robert says he's a product of rape or else wise, ad he's splattered like the real Aegon was.

>>84688632
Thats fair
I guess my biggest hang up is accepted R+L=J as just straight up true after all these years

>>84678228
Nice bait. There's no way you could be that fucking retarded.

JONERYS

>>84677777

Sansa in the show at least is already used goods. Littlefinger is chasing after the sloppy seconds of the RIGHTFUL king in the north Ramsay "Dogfood" Bolton

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>>84692096
> RIGHTFUL king in the north Ramsay "Dogfood" Bolton

grrm disagrees

>>84692210
>WHO OWNS THE NORTH
>TREEBOY

>>84692368
yeah actually

Why don't meera/hodor cut Bran's legs off so he's easier to carry? He doesn't use them anyway.

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>>84691499
I hope they recreate this scene when they fugg

>>84692893
Why don't they kill him so that he doesn't timewarg into that child and create the Great Other.

>>84692893
>what is infection
durr

>>84670557
god id do anything to get sucked off by cersei with short hair

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>>84692893
they could eat them too

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Cast her. No whore or alien.

>>84693710
I don't think there's a character that calls for such a... unique facial aesthetic.

>>84693710
Hunchback of Winterfell

>>84693710
>>84693710
Pretty Pia.
Gregor punching her in the face would explain her deformity.

>>84693531
theres nothing on those legs except skin and bone

>>84686637
that one where tyrion asks for casterly rock
pure dancekino

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>>84685707
>leaves ghost behind where he stays all season

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how inevitable is jonerys?

Jon is the only other targ we know of in the show suitable to mate with Dany to reinstate the inbred Targ dynasty

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>>84693801
y-you think I'm unique?

>>84670557
the original designer left. the one who made all those neat first season designs.

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>>84695320
it shows ;-;

I'm bored, /got/. Name your dream hook-up, and I'll try my best to draw it. I don't care about taboo.

>>84676054
he's not a captain... he's a lieutenant

>>84695336
Just Party City Halloween costume my shit up.

>>84695382
preston and grrm
please deliver

>>84695382
arya gendry

>>84695382
Septon Utt&Arya
Gregor Clegane&Sansa
R'hllor&Melisandre
Val&Ghost
Penny&Mag the mighty

>>84685662
>Did you read ADWD? He was tricked like an idiot by Tryion into abandoning Dany, who has Dragons and an undisputed lineage, thus invalidating any doubts people might have about his own legitimacy, all because tyrion pokes his ego. He's brash and lacks foresight.
Remember how well travelling to Slaver's Bay worked for Quentin? Dany didn't want to leave the bay, she was already getting married and she couldn't take Quentyn seriously so far from Westeros. Aegon would be more persuasive with the Golden Company behind him, but he's lose half the company on the journey, just like Victarion. Everyone lost people on the journey to Slaver's Bay.

Aegon chose to get to Westeros and establish a foothold before Winter came. If Dany doesn't decide to go West, Aegon can go it alone. If she does go West, he'll have a nice chunk of land ready for her.

>>84695867
Its ridiculous to compare Quentin with Aegon. Aegon is beautiful, and would have a retinue of lords, though exiles, and an army. In the very least he could, with Danny's Unsullied, swiftly end the Yunkai resistance. Hizdar is the greatest issue, no doubt.

>>84695985
Aegon would have a better chance, but he still has to face the fact that Dany doesn't particularly want to invade Westeros. She wants to settle down, end the slave trade and reform Ghiscari culture.

Aegon might stand a chance is he arrives after her shit based vision quest. She seems to end the book a bit more violent than when she started it.

>>84695425
I second this.

>>84696330
again though, this isn't really what motivates Aegon. One, no one in the west outside of exceedingly good or just plain supernaturally good spies have any inkling of the real issues facing dany. Aegon is motivated by pride.

>Aegon's mouth twisted in fury. "I will not come to my aunt a beggar. I will come to her a kinsman, with an army."
>"A small army." There, that's made him good and angry. The dwarf could not help but think of Joffrey. I have a gift for angering princes. "Queen Daenerys has a large one, and no thanks to you." Tyrion moved his crossbows.

>And then Prince Aegon spoke. "Then put your hopes on me," he said. "Daenerys is Prince Rhaegar's sister, but I am Rhaegar's son. I am the only dragon that you need."
>Griff put a black-gloved hand upon Prince Aegon's shoulder. "Spoken boldly," he said, "but think what you are saying."

the point is is that aegon is bold and rash, an not particularly forward thinking. Legitimizing bastards willy nilly is not merely something he might do, in the case of Ellia, its something he's EXPECTED to do, with the numerous bastards of the Golden Company. Remember too, Ellia is of fairly good birth as far as bastards go, better than all the snakes barring Nym.

aegon is the prince that was promised

>>84687497
no they not, the fact that they are matching the description dose not make them more faithful, if you make them look like gay models from the 80's.

>>84695154
Tyrion is also Targ, we'll have a midget, manlet, fat bitch 3 way

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>>84696837
>midget, manlet, fat bitch
Incest was a mistake

>>84695382
Arya X Jaqen
Shagwell Rorge
Kindly man X Olena Tyrell

>>84695425
This

>>84696837
Tyrion is a Lannister. The twins are obviously bastards of the mad king.

What will the mext thread be about I wonder.

>>84697208
Wendy the white fawn

>>84697208
fat walda edition

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>>84697208
Blood and Fire edition

>>84697317
dang that arch looks stupid. Also the Gates of the Moon are practicly right below the moon door

>>84697208
Pretty Pia's Teeth edition.

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>>84697343
Blood and Fire

>>84697370
>this is a 10/10 in Westeros

>>84679680
Nah, they like it for the witty dwarf, Dany, and Jon.

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replace khaloreesi with holly earl

>>84695382
Jon x Arianne
Jon x Arya
Sansa x hole in the ground

>>84695382
Arya x sansa

>>84695382
Dani x a hangmans noose

>>84698087
Ah yes, the same High Valyrian that remained mostly unchanged for millennia, something which clearly languages do

Anybody else want the parentage reveal to be that not only is Jon Wylla's son, but he's a bastard and his father was some random peasant and Ned just adopted him and raised him as his bastard because he felt indebted to Wylla for helping Lyanna in the birthing chamber?

>>84698407
Jon is a Dayne and the next sword of the morning

>>84698407
No, because they've been hammering how Jon looks like Ned more than Rob, Bran and Rickon did, so suddenly revealed that he's not even Stark would be a stupid, annoying asspull.

https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=39590

New
Fucking
Cancer
Thread
Where

>>84698688
New
Fucking
Cancer
Thread
Fucking
When
?
!

>>84698688

new fucking cancer thread here
>>84698749