Game of Thrones /got/ General

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he was too good for this world

damn, i really wish we could have gotten someone with keen aesthetic and costuming like "Curse of the Golden Flower" to bring GoT alive.

Shame its so devoid of passion, color-wise.

>>84448386
I want Dany to peg me and demand that I call her mhysa.

>>84448424
tf is that?

its auburn hair, but ...

>>84448424
is he in hell?

>>84448386
Those sleeves look comfy

>>84448502
degenerate.

don't you know best Dany, is sexually "over it" Dany. The Dany that has no patience for any other male sexual expression than the hella alpha ass, kinky ass shit is my fucking favorite just cause for a prude like me, i couldn't get over how entertaining the idea of a 13 year old girl that's been fucked so much harder than i ever had or will be was so blunt and dismissive of the dick. some of my personal Danykino

>>84448386
When will she take the BLACK?

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>>84448519
but what?

>>84448386
>a queen of peave

>>84448386

>*consider the following*

>>84448386
she's not mad. how dare you.

>>84448832
I like her when she's mad

>>84448386
jesus christ she looks far too skinny here

Would a centrally administered bureaucracy like that of China or the Roman Empire have been more durable than the Targaryens' silly seven kingdoms hereditary feudalism?

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>You fags still watch this shit
I was off of 4chan for 2 years before I found /got/ 4 years ago

>Rickon just quietly hangs around for 6 seasons then dies and nobody (not even his own sister) gives a shit
lmao

Why do people hate Jon Snow?

>>84449606
>Women find Kit attractive and this triggers boring men
>gormless face
>shitty unearned resurrection
>plot armor

>>84448554
What would he go to hell for?

>>84449662

>>gormless face

Nice opinion.

>>shitty unearned resurrection

How so? He's clearly Azor Ahai.

>>plot armor

See above.

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>>84449731
>the unironic jontard is back

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>>84449731
>he thinks Azor Ahai exists
>he thinks one of the main protags could ever be Azor Ahai
Consider the fact that GRRM is an atheist and that ASOIAF is clearly in part a critique of religion, a theme which can also be found in GRRM's other works. Why the fuck would he make the main character of his magnum opus into a prophesied religious hero?

3 more Sundays. No more trailers or pics being dropped?

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>>84449731
Oh you were fishing for insults to defend?
>Nice opinion
I was referring to his usual face, which might be a subjective reason for a person to not like Jon Snow
>How so?
What was sacrificed to bring back Jon? What makes him Azor Ahai reborn?

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>Alright guys lets do this
>The good guys all take flowers so our clever viewers can see you're all a team of good now.
>Lena, take a rotten pomegranate so they see you're a villain and bound to get crushed. Our pottery is so insane.
>Sophie heh... We're not quite sure what you are exactly so take a bite from an apple I guess, let sandrawhales figure out whatever symbolism they want from this.
>Nicolaj, you'll take...
>Screw that I'm doing your dumb themed shooting. Just take one of me in my suit real quick so I can fuck off somewhere else.

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>>84450645
>a literal tumblr post

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I hope Deanerys dies this season.

>>84450682
>sandrawhale is THIS mad.
Don't worry, Sandra can't be queen, king, hand, or any position really, but I'm sure they'll find something for her. Maybe not courtesans, because these need to be smart&funny as well as a good fuck, but you know. Some whore in Chataya's brothel or something.

>>84450715
She won't die before the final episode unfortunately. She should become the next villain once she makes it to Westeros but that's not happening and I'm sure dingdong are going to make her a "stronk female wonder womyn" before she dies heroically.

>>84450783
>before she dies heroically.
A king needs a queen.
Whoever rules in the end (and by "whoever" I really mean Jon Snu) will not be single. That'd be an unfinished story.

And while D&D will leave 90% of the arcs unfinished, won't do it for the big meme one.

>>84450645
fuck me kit

>>84450825
SHE IS HIS AUNT

>>84450825
I think it's about time that the tradition of fucking a relative and bringing a potentially mentally unstable child into the world to rule is brought to an end.

>>84450783
>>84450825
basically the only way Dany dies is if D&D decides to go with Tyrion king and Sansa queen (his wife/her first husband), with Jon Snu being KITN...

This might happen, but not very likely. Not only because they clearly care more about Jon than Tyrion/Sansa, and so do the showfags...
But also, Jon being KITN wouldn't really work/make sense. If the kingdoms are split, then Jon and Tyrion/Sansa are at war, not gonna happen. If they aren'T split, then Jon is just KITN in name. In truth he's just the lord of WInterfell.

Anyway there's just 1 thing you really have to consider : Jon is showfags/D&D's favorite. He's winning in the end. And his queen is like 100 tiems more likely to be Dany than Sansa/Arya/Whoever else.

The only thing that makes me hesitate just a bit is that (aside from her making 'badass speeches' every 2 mnutes) they don't seem to put Dany in such a good light anymore. Even showfags are tired of her shit...

But with the bits of info we got for S7, she's likely to go back to a big favorite.

>tfw no zombifu gf
I want to cuddle with LSH so badly I can't deal with not having her in my life

>>84450887
Yeah, the Targaryen line withered out because of incest so I don't see why George would make anyone start it back up again.

>>84450965
I mean they've been shitting on George's life work for a while now but they're not going to let Daenerys live in the end. If Jon's going to survive by the end somehow he'll probably keep the north independent and the other kingdoms would soon follow. He wouldn't take up the Iron Throne and (hopefully) people will realize it's retarded that there's a position of power that controls several kingdoms.

Daenerys has also showed how incompetent she is at anything so her entitled ass is out at the end.

The showrunners have said their favorite character is Cersei and if you've read the BoTB script it's clear Dany and Sansa are their favorites as well. Yes, Jon's winning in the end but he isn't their favorite, they're just following the cliff notes George handed them.

>>84450854
>SHE IS HIS AUNT
Nothing wrong with that.

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>>84451054
Do you think she's still fertile?

>>84450854
I wish she were my aunt

>>84451142
I don't even think of her like that. I just want to give her some well deserved love&affection, and hope for the same in return. But if she deems me guilty of whatever crimes she can hang me for it and I'll still love her until my last, dying moment in this world.

>>84451237
>t. brienne

>>84451111
>Daenerys has also showed how incompetent she is at anything so her entitled ass is out at the end.
Only for people with critical thinking. But even then it's more about the shitty writing than anything.

For showfags (and D&D) Dany is certainly the most competent person ever. All the time won because dragons or because immunity to fire and khals are all fucking retarded or other thousands of plot armors, it all counts as "Dany is great/competent!" from their perspective.

Just like people who see no problem with Jon being KITN despite the fact that he should not be the one creditted for the victory, he actually just brought all the north to (almost) certain death. Yet they made him king for it. For trying (and failing) to get them all killed.

To the "Turn your brain off, man!" crowd, a plot armor victory and a 'displaying competence/skill" victory is the same thing.

>>84450825
>a king needs a queen
This is what dumb burgers actually believe.
You either have Rex or Regina, never both at the same time.

>>84451254
well no, I mean I would still lick her ass/pussy if she asked me to, or would try to get her pregnant again if she thinks it's possible. I'm not opposed to rough, kinky zombifu sex. It's just not my main focus. I love her more than I lust for her.

And I think she really needs love more than anything. A gentle caress, a tender embrace. Some soft words whispered to her ear. She hasn't felt anything good in a very long time, and must feel so alone.

Even her followers don't really feel that good about her anymore, think she's not doing justice and all that.

Poor zombifu. Hanging freys is a thankless job.

>>84451306
I agree but you can't just blame Jon for what happened at the battle. They won because LF brought the knights to the north, but the bigger blame goes to Sansa for not telling Jon about them. Yes, Jon's stupid because he agreed to command his "army" but had he known about the knights he would've come up with an actual plan and we would've seen at least some sort of knowledge from Jon.

I don't like how showfags and sandrawhales act like Jon's the biggest idiot in the world and didn't deserve to be crowned king. It is unfair that he got crowned king but it was the right choice for the time being. I don't think Sansa would deserve that kind of position considering thousands of northern lives were lost because she let her emotions get in the way of war. And judging by the leaks it looks like everyone will keep sucking up to Sansa because she is a "mind trick queen" and a player in the game now even though she's still blatantly being played.

But it's okay because D&D will make her look like the oppressed steel kween that she is.

>>84451410
>Even her followers don't really feel that good about her anymore, think she's not doing justice and all that.
Really? I missed this part.

>>84449905
>What was sacrificed to bring back Jon? What makes him Azor Ahai reborn?

He may not be Azor Ahai but he came back to life for a reason. He has a role to play in the wars to come. Same thing with Beric.


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>mfw people dislike Dany because she is a powerful female

>>84452346
>has a slave army
>has a rape army
i'm sure westeros will like her

What do people mean when they talk about Modern Day Isaac Hempstead Wright?

>>84452346
>powerful female
In what way? All the power Dany has had been given to her by somebody or something else. There's not a single achievement she can claim to be her own. In fact, the only reason why people think she's relevant is because of the dragon's who do all the dirty for her. Dany herself is inept at negotiation without resorting to her dragons for violence or bowing to someone else who is much better at her job than she is. Dany, at best, is simply a figurehead that people rally around. When Aegon and his sisters landed on Westoros those sisters knew how to do more than just ride their dragons. They fought as well. They talked and found ways besides violence to get what they want and they did so without having a Tyrion of Varys there to help them.

I only wanted to be loved. I want love someone.

>>84451111
>Yeah, the Targaryen line withered out because of incest

Avunculate matches aren't considered incest.

Take Aeron wanting Victarion x Asha and the Starks marrying two nieces to their uncles

>>84450854
So? Her parents and grandparents were siblings. Fucking her nephew is pretty tame by Targ standards.

>>84448386
reminder bran is the great other / night king and jaime is the lord of light.
bran skin changes into the night king while he was human in a failed attempt at stopping him from becoming the night king but becomes bound due to the magic that keeps the night king bound as an ice elemental keeps bran bound in this body after things go south.

bran and his lesser others / white walkers turn on the children because of feelings of betrayal from blood raven and the children of the forest. he blames them hence why the children become the others first target. also why he only goes for bloodraven with thousands of the dead while only sending a handful after bran and meera because he knows benjen comes in to save the day.

after sperging out and causing some damage they disappear north in the lands of always winter waiting for the person who can free them from their cursed existence to be born.

which is jaime lannister and his magical fiery golden hand. lesser others can be killed by valyrian steel and obsidian but the only way for the night king to either return to humanity or at least die and finally be free is for jaime lannister to tear the dragon glass from his chest and the only one who can penetrate his magical ice body is for the man with the magical fiery hand.

just one mans opinion. they've only now returned because they're waiting for the lord of light to be born.

if freedom fails then option b is to eradicate all life.

>>84452346
She is not powerful because of any extradordinary competence on her part, she is powerful because things are outright handed to her by virtue of her family name. It's literally Targaryen privilege. What others have to work for, she gets without effort simply because her ancestors were better killers than most. And yet Tumblrinas love her.

>>84452346
but I like cersei???

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I just want to cum up her back is that too much to ask?

>>84453233
Pretty sure anyone who works for her does it because she has dragons

>>84453175
All of this

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>>84452346
>walks into a fire one night and suddenly everything is handed to her on a silver platter
Yeah, a real "powerful" female for sure. People dislike her because she's a terrible and boring character.

>>84453458
>dat linebacker bod and man face
in retrospect, was sophie the worst casting decision?

>>84453540
Now that the dust has settled, I think we can all agree that Euron was the worst casting in the entire series.

>>84453580
maybe, but at least we don't have to look at him and pretend he's a 10/10 for 8 seasons

>>84453613
Actually Khaloriesee was the worst casting decision. Obviously. She's fucking trash actress and was chubby to start with, getting literally fat after season 2.

Why couldnt we have had tamsin merchant reeeee

>>84453666
>>Actually Khaloriesee was the worst casting decision
>not the living goblin. AKA Maisie Williams.

>>84453666
tamzin looks like a retarded nut sack

>>84453666
For what it's worth Emilia has a prettier face. But I would have proffered Tasmin as well. She can act, she's thin, and she has that ayy lmao inbred look you'd expect of a Targ.

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>>84453755
arya is meant to be ugly though

>>84453757
At least she cant act, unlike Eyebrows McTarg, breaker of chairs

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>>84448386

Queen of Burgers

>>84448424
>too good
>married a western cunt
>got his mom killed

>>84453540
It's probably Emilia, considering her inability to act really hampers the core narrative.

I'd still fuck the shit out of her though

>>84453895
>got his mom killed
>implying she didn't do that herself by slitting an innocent tard's throat and clawing her face off
also jeyne is pure pls no bully

>>84448424
brandon of the bloody blade, brandon the builder, bran the broken, robb the retarded

>>84453666
Do we know why Tamzin Merchant dropped out?

>>84454157
Because she realised she couldn't act

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>>84453793
yeah she's not hot and nto supposed to be.

so why can't I stop jacking off to her?

>>84454180
>the daenarys autist reveals themself

>>84454157
scheduling conflict lmao. She fucked up and didn't take what would become one of the hottest roles in the business. She probably wants to kill herself right now seeing fat emilia waddling around the screen. Sad!

>>84454209
>sad pathetic neckbeard detected

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>>84454157
because she looks like this

>>84448386
what did she mean by this? is she a jihadi?

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>>84454157
>>84454302
as opposed to this

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>>84454157
>>84454302
>>84454317
and this

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>>84448386

What's his endgame !?

>>84454283
>shilling in favour of a fat bad actress on a norwegian cave painting forum

>>84454334
this>>84453175

the great other is waiting for the lord of light to set him free

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>>84454317
>>84454330
red waste qt

>>84454137
what would the brandons have done in his place?

>>84454394
not marry a sneaky gypsy, take lord karstark as a hostage and flay enemy captives

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Holy fuck even an adult dragon won't be enough to move her fatass around next season.

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Last scene of season 8, pic related

>>84454505
How did she get so fat?

>>84454505
>those fucking chub biceps

jesus

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>>84454505

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>>84448386
ONE TRUE QUEEN!

>>84454505
>>84454651
these are not real, i dont believe you

>>84454694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXJ3sebNGeU

>the comments praising her for being "chubby" and "thicc"
>the USA: where being obese is beautiful and being a cuck is progress

>>84454724
>being triggered because some people like women who aren't skeletons

I am gonna laugh and laugh when Dany doesn't go mad queen, doesn't become a villain, but instead gets along with Jon (Targaryen bastard or trueborn or not), and helps save the world

The tumblr tears will taste fantastic

>>84454724
C U T E

>>84454783
>tumblr tears over white male bowing to feminist fatleesi
I mean I know they're sashatards first and foremost, but come on.

>>84454724
I like her better now and i'm french. But she need to lift weight or something

>>84454724
that poor dragon

What if Ned, Theon, Tywin and Gregor joined the Night Watch along with Jon? What kind of adventure would they have?

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>>84439950
>mfw I don't even remember this but it is probably true

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>>84454901
>Tywin

>>84454724
SHE ALREADY LOST WEIGHT FOR SEASON 6 AND WAS PERFECT !!!!!!

IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING ??

>>84449572
They all thought ha and Bran were dead

>>84454936
Just a 'what if' remember for ordering Gregor for killing the peasants at Riverlands.

>>84454302
she's a lot closer to what I'd imagine dany looking like

Reminder Theon escapes Stannis's grip somehow and makes it to the Wall, the Night's Watch declare him Jon Snow in a chapter entitled "Jon Snow", Theon's reasoning being if he becomes Jon then he will be forgiving for his crimes and the Watch are all loopy from their act of treason and go along with it. The Watch constantly hear wolves howling at night thinking it is the Starks coming for their revenge.

Theon/Jon sends Jon's corpse to Ramsey who skins it and wears his skin like a good luck charm before he goes into battle against Stannis.

Euron makes Dragonstone go boom and Cersei is found dead, impaled on the Iron Throne as if she didn't want to let go of the power it hold. Euron either sacrifices Aegon or Victarion similar to how Mel was going to perform her ritual on Storm.

Tyrion finds Brightroar

Little Finger is revealed to be Jaqen

Daenerys burns Sam. Being the only one who can prove Theon's innocence.

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Post your favourite side character

>>84453755
arya is the best casting they did though, looks like arya is described and is the best actor out of the stark kids

>>84455038
stop posting tumblr gifs.

>>84455024
>Little Finger is revealed to be Jaqen
So basically Jaqen H'ghar = Faceless Men = Jaqen H'ghar = Littlefinger/The Alchemist = Pate = ?

>>84455123

He's a good sailor so it wouldn't be total bullshit he can zip to the Citadel and back to King's Landing instantly.

Not to mention the Harrenhall connection, Jaqen was found in Harrenhall and Little Finger desires it badly, why? Outside of it being an important strategic place I think there is something more to it. Not to mention him giving Arya the coin probably alludes to him being Little Finger especially since in Clash he becomes Master of the Coin.

Reminder Sweet Robyn is one of Vary's Little Birds and his spy in Little Finger's camp.

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>>84455159
it is true then.

The Many Faces of Jaqen

>>84449606
Because Mary Sue characters are kinda boring?

>>84448554
>>84449720
>What would he go to hell for?
More to the point, why do you think hell exists in this universe?

>>84455185

Especially if he has both Stark sisters working for him under different identities, with Sansa being his perfect diplomat he could do all kinds of shit and forge alliances and shit while he could use Arya to influence and bump people off who hinder his plans.

>>84450887
>I think it's about time that the tradition of fucking a relative and bringing a potentially mentally unstable child into the world
BUT IT'S WORKED SO WELL UP UNTIL NOW

>>84455194
>Mary Sue characters have no flaws and everyone likes them right off the bat
>this somehow fits Jon Snow

Sure.

>>84455211
well what else is going to happen to jaime when he dies?
>t. cat

>>84455265
i am going to begin my rewatch soon. will post some nice catches

>>84455263
There are people who dislike them, but they're all always comically stupid, evil, or live to deeply regret it.

>>84455308
rewatching now on season 3 currently
Seems like everything is spiraling down to shit already
What went so wrong?
1&2 are goat

I had a nightmare last night that I was watching S7 of GOT and it was plagued by:

>awkward/bad dialogue
>long drawn out scenes that wasted time
>everyone acting OOC
>Jon acting like a real country bumpkin
>the story not going anywhere

I guess it triggered by that time where Emilia revealed how much more speaking lines/screen time she had that kinda has me worried.

>>84455334
Season 3 is where a lot of things hit off in terms of resolution.

To me, Season 4 is my fave just because of how good Oberyn is. Jaime, Brienne, Ramsey, Tywin, Tyrion GOAT this season.

>>84455123
>>84455159
>>84455185
You guys haven't figured this out yet?

EVERY character is Jaqen H'ghar. Last episode is going to be everybody just simultaneously pulling their faces off for a big reveal.

>>84455319
Doesn't that include Cersei, too? A big portion of people who hated her are dead or being tortured.

>>84455263
There are CHARACTERS who dislike Jon Snow. Most of them are portrayed as baddies or dumdums. The real mary sue characteristic is being the author's obvious favorite. Everything just falls into place for him, he's always in the right place and right time, he manages to be at all the important scenes, etc.

>>84455403
Yeah, except they go out of their way to paint Cersei as a villain. Jon Snow is never wrong about anything.

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If you catch up with Michael Moorcock's Elric books you'll probably be able to figure out what's going to happen in the unreleased Ice & Fire titles. Personally I'm quite astonished by how much Massa Jawge owes ém.

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>chaos ish Al Adder

who the fuck is Al Adder? is it a nickname he has for himself?

>master of coin
>he has to add the coins together
>Al Adder

can someone confirm this? is it mentioned in the books at all?

>>84455434
>The real mary sue characteristic is being the author's obvious favorite.

Tyrion's his favorite character. He's said so more than once. Unless of course you meant [those useless cunts] in their capacity as "authors" of the TV series, in which case you weren't being altogether clear.

>>84455434
But GRRM's favorite is most obviously Tyrion. What you mean is the character the author self-inserts into.

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>>84455501
>>84455552
his favourite is clearly sam

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Whats their fucking problem?
What the fuck are they even doing up there

>>84455385
is this a green dream?

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>>84455552
>the character the author self-inserts into

That's Sam. Now excuse me while I snigger juvenilely.

>>84455492
Yeah in a Cersei POV in Feast, she uncovers Al Adder's massive debt scheme. It's right before her walk

Why don't the First Men have a tradition of cremating their dead? You would think that would be a no-brainer cultural practice after the Long Night. But they've been using barrows for millennia.

>>84454828
Sansatards HATE, HATE, HATE Dany. White savior with colored people bowing and kneeling and they think she gets everything handed to her and wouldn't be shit without dragons

>>84455578
Sam's the character with whom he's got the strongest sense of personal identification but that doesn't automatically entail favoritism. Hell, I'm not even my favorite character in the story of my own goddamn life.

>>84455621
Stocking up wights for the Others

i'm not even lying

Can someone post the "Finish the books before you die of fat" picture?

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>>84455623
She's certainly no Elric.

>>84455008
Dany's supposed to look 18/10, n108 actually inbred

>>84455492
>chaosh is al adder
>i am chaosh

what did he mean by this

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>>84455621
How long does a stiff in a barrow take to deteriorate into a harmless (ie dried-out and unable to communicate disease) state? I've never even considered this before. After a time it'd lose all flesh and become a campy skeleton instead of a wight.

>>84455462
He was wrong about not putting Alister over to a different castle.

>>84455403
No. Bcause people who hate her aren't portrayed as evil, stupid, or wrong for hating her. And plenty are still around and sure to outlive her. Tyrion, Arya, Sandra...

When I said that they live to regret it, I didn't mean that they get murdered. I meant that they realize how wrong they were, beg for forgiveness, lament their folly, imply that they deserved having their spouse and children killed for having once held the wrong opinion...

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>>84455690
He serves Chaos. Guess who else serves Chaos? ARIOCH, ARIOCH, SOULS FOR ARIOCH!

>>84455621
Why doesn't anyone think about future generations rather than just themselves?

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>>84455775

Why do jonfags have such a problem with him kneeling?

If it's the only way to get Dany to stick around instead of heading East to get warm (like Jon wants to do before he got that Ramsay even when he knew exactly what the threat was) then he should do it to save his people. And there's nothing wrong with Jon doing that or Dany needing that.

Dany has no family to threaten her with to get her to fight unlike Jon she has little tie besides muh birthright, she didn't even believe in Walkers until seeing a giant army and a based true king of Westeros kill one of her dragons/children. Best way of keeping the rest alive would be to run away but thanks to Jon, she doesn't

>>84455815
*Ramsay letter

>>84455815
>Why do jonfags have such a problem with him kneeling?

Because Daenerys. *You* wouldn't do it. I can certainly understand and sympathise with Torrhen Stark submitting to Aegon the Conqueror but *her*? Get to fuck!

>>84455712
None of the people Jon hung did though. Also Dany has killed innocent people though.

Actually, don't Dany and Jon represent change and those who can not cope with it are doomed to perish?

>>84455900
>Get to fuck!
>Dany

That's probably the actual reason Jon kneeled.

>>84455913
Dany isn't a Sue, she's more of a writer's pet. Jon is both.

>>84455954
see
>>84455805

>>84455900
>Get to fuck!
>i erect my penis
>she runs out on nudity
>no more or you get a shoe

>>84455900
>kneel or the chick with almost no skin in the game runs back to Essos
>not the smart thing to do

Oh come on

What was the better version of the same scene, the book scene of Varys killing Kevan after Pycelle was killed off page or the show version of Qyburn killing Pycelle while Kevan exploded?

>>84454283
Definition of projection

a : the act of perceiving a mental object as spatially and sensibly objective; also : something so perceived
b : the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects; especially : the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety

>>84456149
Qyburn killing Pycelle; Varys's sheer windbaggery's excruciating to me.

>>84456267
Agreed. I was shocked when that scene was airing that D&D included a version so late but even more shocked that it was better utilized than the book. It seemed more fighting having it between the maesters.

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Can /got/ refute this?

http://joannalannister.tumblr.com/post/162408885186/the-dead-ladies-club

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WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME

>>84456149
Qyburn killing Pycelle was pretty lit. I would've liked Varys killing Kevan too but the show never really expanded on how Kevan was fixing the kingdom other than a few passing mentions that he was now Tommen's Hand. Would've have made much sense to have Varys teleport an extra time in that episode after he already teleported from Essos to Dorne and back

>>84456829
I just wish Varys was more of a presence in the show. The crossbow scene is crazy because it underlines just how in control he is, how everything is unfolding according to his 20 year keikaku.

Show Varys has just sort of attached himself to Daenerys, and he only shows up in a couple of scenes each season

Still hoping for that that pic of GRRM on that walker with lemony lemon cakes in the background.

>>84456641
>implying rickard stark looms large or has any personality
>implying steffon does
>or Doran's unnamed father
Yeah, a bunch of bitches who died relatively recently are underdeveloped and vague even though it would make sense for the living characters to remember them. But the same is true for plenty of men. It's probably not a sexism issue, but a GURM being lazy issue.

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I wish we got Daven

>>84449572
She dealt with it already. She had seen some shit in all her time at Kings Landing etc. She supposed that Ramsey would never let him live and only saw him as a dead brother walking.

She was more worried about Jon doing something rash in an attempt to save him that might screw their chances at retaking Winterfell.

>>84456905
I honestly think the endgame is going to be Varys and Tyrion clinking glasses or some shit after killing Daenerys because they don't want her after all. Or it may happen before that.

Remember the leaks have Tyrion disagreeing with Daenerys about killing someone via dragon and he talks to Varys about it.

Varys is the anti-Littlefinger and Littlefinger died. Tyrion is willing to compromise on ideals, e.g. with the slavers. Together they have a good shot and to rule better than Daenerys will.

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>>84457396
As with another great and universally popular character he's better off not appearing in this ridiculous campfest of a series.

>>84457657
>I honestly think the endgame is going to be Varys and Tyrion clinking glasses or some shit

I'm just as certain killing Varys will be Jon Connington's last act before the greyscale gets the better of him. In the novel continuity anyway.

>>84457657
They need a puppet. Nobody is going to stand for King Dwarf or King No-Dick

>>84457767
viserys blackfyre aka "varys" presumably would be the hand of young aegon

>>84457766
Varys' power level is too high for Jon Connington.

I'm now imagining Connington strangling someone to death with his stony hand, only for it to fully stiffen mid-murder, leaving him with a corpse permanently attached to his arm

>>84457801
Book continuity, sure. But book Varys isn't on Dany's team, and there is no Aegon on the show.

I want the fanfic series to end!!!!!! Reeeeeeeeee

>>84457801
varys is the son or grandson of aerion brightflame who after exile wen't to live out his days in lys and sired children before killing himself drinking wildfire.
varys claims in the show to tyrion he clawed his way up from the slums of myr but when oberyn questions varys about his ambitions he shocks varys by stating he's from lys. varys claims he wen't out of his way to lose his accent and oberyn slyly claims he has an ear for that too.

ironically it was aerion who visited eggs bed chamber during the night to threaten him by turning him into a eunech so he could become a sister he could wife.

the irony being thats how aerions bloodline goes ends. being castrated root and stem.

young griff is legitimate. daenerys has a lot more in common and influences with the blackfyres than young griff has.

black dragon, black fire, the name daenerys, horse lords and stallions are all associated with daemon blackfyre.

daemon was the black dragon, blackfyre name and blackfyre sword of kings, his first and true love was daenerys, wound up wedding 'rohanne' of tyrosh after being denied daenerys. bittersteel the dragon winged stallion was his main supporter etc.

young griff has fuck all blackfyre influences.

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>>84458077
well that was worth a picture of a lyseni coin to hear
(i wish this thing existed in tangible form)

>>84458077
Very interesting theory

I would like the irony very much if Dany, a BFS, actually ended up roasting Aegon, a legit Targ.

>>84455393
and then everyone explodes into orange fanta
Jaqen's goal was instrumentality all along.

>>84448631
Enjoy the S7boatsex then.

>>84454505
>american

>>84458218
her being a blackfyre which actually has weight to it just comes off as more enjoyable to me. blackfyres had a great claim. both of daemons parents were targaryens ( aegon and deana targaryen ) just out of wedlock. also a blackfyre hatching dragons brings some kind of descent resolution and larger purpose for the splinter branch. and if she does wed a targaryen it reunites the bloodline.

interesting also she has a great bastard theme nickname. bloodraven, bittersteel, seastar, stormborn etc.

it's quite possible aegon the fourth intended for daemon to rule. his claim rested on aegons successor being sired from aemon the dragon knight. it's entirely possible aegon suspected this hence the gifting the sword that the ruling king wields was passed off to daemon.

but yea it would be ironic if she kills young griff if he's legit and she's a blackfyre.

How did the ironborn ever hold the riverlands?

>>84458480
different times. there were some ironborn that were general bad asses. too bad the current stock are quite pitiful

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>>84458444
I really like it. It would also completely force character change, as if she knew that information she would have to reassess her entire journey thus far where she believed that she was pure Targaryen.

But then, some schools of thought show that the Blackfyres actually had a superior claim, which would mean the Baratheons would actually have far less claim in the current time of ASOIAF.

"Remember who you are." - Quaithe (Sheara Seastar?) Why would she say this if Dany actually is a Targaryen? Makes more sense to me that there's something else to the story.

Add Jon to the mix and you've got Dance of Dragons 2.0 coming up, which seems pretty kino.

>>84458444
another irony is ser barriston. he slew the last male blackfyre but winds up supporting the final blackfyre invasion through the last female

>>84457499
for fucks sake sandrawhale shut up and take your stupid fucking meta back to tumblr. SHE was the one who told jon they had to go save rickon in the first place

she didn't actually give a fuck about rickon's life and if she did she'd know that escaping ramsay isn't actually impossible considering SHE JUST DID IT HERSELF

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>>84458480
by ruling with an iron fist :^)
but even they fell to the treachery of the (((trout)))

>>84458595
fuck yea it'll be pretty awesome.

>>84458595
oh shit. dance of dragons factions were the greens and the blacks.

rhaegal and drogon.

>>84455691
Shitcan that blasphemy, son, you're in the house of Harryhausen.

I hope Beric Dondarrion

>>84458638
Pretty sure her motivation for fighting Ramsey wasn't muh Rickon it was because Winterfell is her home and Ramsey said he was coming to get them in his note anyway, remember that? She literally tells Jon they'll never get Rickon back.

Yeah, she herself barely escaped with the help of Theon, only in the midst of a battle. Extremely lucky and not something you can count on Rickon to do himself.

>>84459010
She told Jon they had to go save rickon you deaf dumbass, for sandrawhales truly are useless

>>84459037
When faggot

>>84459086
>JON A MONSTER HAS TAKEN OUR HOME AND OUR BROTHER
>JON WINTERFELL IS RICKONS HOME

Stop replying to the fucking tumblrina

Inb4 the whale starts going off about how Sandra is obviously the endgame queen of the world and they don't like her but it's just obvious

>>84459137
Yes that doesn't mean she'd genuinely think she'd save him you fuckwit.

She just wants to if possible.
It makes sense you are just retarded.

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>>84458915
We all do, anon. We all do.

>>84459226
>wants to save him if possible
>gives up on him completely
You what.

You can't dent that she used rickon as a carrot to encourage Jon to fight. Please just shut the fuck up and go back to walking about how smart and perfect Sandra is on tumblr.

>>84459315
Deny*

>>84458595
No time left in the show and it won't happen in the books because of Aegon.

Were the white walkers a mistake?

>>84458595
fucking hell, why can no one get it right
they have silver hair

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>>84459335
Now all you need to do is sort out that "walking" business.

>>84448487
as much as it sucks I do think that the 'dark and gritty' or whatever the fuck costume design is a conscious decision for tone-setting

>>84459315
>muh tumblr
She was just being realistic. Again, it makes sense you are just retarded.

I don't even know what you are arguing about, is it the plot not making sense? State your point instead of crying about tumblr.

>guy takes over your home
>takes your brother
>tortures and kills people
>rapes you
>"Hey Jon get off your ass and save our home and Rickon"

but "HURR WHY DOES SHE NOT SAVE RICKON REALLY DUH"
What do you expect her to say, "hey lets go to Winterfell, oh but Rickon's fucked lol" Of course she's going to be positive about it. Stay incapable of understanding character motivations.

muh tumblr hurr

>>84459370
I don't see a problem with that one. Got any pics that show what you think is right?

“I looked for you in the /cel/ discussion thread,” Stannismod said to them.

“We were not there,” Ser Firefu answered.

“Woe to Moot if we had been,” said Ser Buttslut.

“When the General was deleted, the mods slew your waifus with a golden banhammer, and I wondered where you were.”

“Far away,” Ser Firefu said, “or we'd still be posting, and our false brother would burn in seven 404's.”

“I came down on /got/ to lift the siege,” Stannismod told them, “and the Lords CLEGANEBOWL and Eurio dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”

“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Frogfu.

“Ser Rickonbro is fled to /y/, with that boy he swears he didn't molest. I thought you might have sailed with him.”

“Ser Rickonbro is a shitposter and true,” said Ser Buttslut.

“But not of the Waifuguard,” Ser Firefu pointed out. “The Waifuguard does not flee.”

“Then or now,” said Ser Frogfu. He donned his helm.

“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Firefu.

Stannismod's janitors moved up beside him, with shadow banhammers in hand. They were seven against three.

“And now it begins,” said Ser Frogfu, the Sword of Firsts. He unsheathed Ellie_shopping.gif and held it with both hands. Her skin was pale as milkglass, alive with light.

“No,” Stannismod said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”

>>84459428
Yeah actually I do expect her to not use rickon as bait and thn turn around and call Jon a retard for wanting to save his own brother, it makes her a cunt but of course as a woman you would think that kind of behavior is ok

>>84459502

What happened to this /got/ ?

Does anyone here remember Art Admirer

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>>84455393
So Jaqen H'ghar is the true protagonist of Game of Thrones.

That means that Jaqen is the Azor Ahai afterall.

Azor Jaqen and The Many Faced God.

>>84459655
>Art Admirer
Art was an excellent poster

>>84459692
jaqen is the god of rape

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>>84459655
>>84459722
http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/username/Art%20Admirer/page/1/

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Skeltal

>>84459655

Didn't you read the pasta? He fled to /y/.

I miss that /got/ as well. Remember when everyone was a secret merling, everything fit, and we were always HYPE?

Anon, I dreamed I was old.

>>84459593
So basically you just don't like the character. Okay got it. Let me clarify my position:

I don't give a fuck what you think about the character, you're the one that started accusing me of being your tumblr boogeyman out of nowhere.

Take a step back from your computer screen you paranoid retard and realize I never defended the character from a moral standpoint, I was defending the characters motivations.

You paranoid idiot, you jumped to conclusions and didn't even realize what I was defending, lmao. I can't understand how you'd misunderstand that either, you must be so triggered by people defending Sansa that as soon as you saw I was posting about her you jumped to conclusions.

Wew lad. Take a fucking break.

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>Emilia is crazy into Kit irl
>keeps gaining weight because she wants him bad but can't have him

This is all Kit's fault. Now he has to deal with having sex with a fatass Emilia as consequence.

>>84453793
I never got the opinion from the books that she was really ugly.
Like she was definitely unattractive and very boyish looking.
But at the same time shes a kid and shes probably an ugly duckling and desu it be a bit weird if somebody did call her fit.

But jesus christ I find so maisie williams extraordinarily ugly, I feel shes too ugly to play her.

>>84459967
>desu it be a bit weird if somebody did call her fit.
>if

>>84459967
Isn't one of her nicknames literally "the ugly one"?

>>84460047
Yeah but theres being called ugly

then theres looking like maisie williams

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Post yfw he ends up on the Iron Throne.

>>84460187
Isn't that negro dead?

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>>84460187
posting my face when he gets murdered and diced in half in thenext few episodes

>>84460107
I feel like she fits the role but I never read the book. Maybe it's that the writing seems written around the actor now that we strayed from the book, rather than the actor being cast for the role.

I probably prefer it, "a kewl pretty young assassin" sounds like some reddit faggotry to me. The character is morally gray anyway, so it fits nicely.

>>84460206
No you dipshit he is Cercei's hand of the queen. He was last seen crowning her

>>84460294
Shit I was thinking of that cousin she fucked who got stabbed by his weird kiddy minions.

>>84460187
He isn't playing the game of thrones. He wanted to do his experiments which were outlawed. He will probably just serve the queen as long as she gives him that opportuinity.

>>84460270
Yeah it be a bit autistic if she was some pretty little girl going around shanking shit. it wouldn't fit her story.
But shes already reddit tier desu, Honestly I just don't like her character in the show or the books.

I'm more of a davos or sir cuckmont kinda guy.

>>84460270
>>84460426
She's definitely GRRM's weakest character anyway. And it doesn't help that her storyline continually drifts out of relevance to anything else.

>>84460484
Arya and Sansa both seem to be literally pointless to the plots of the books past book 1

>>84460566
Eh, Sansa is at least something of an object of all the KL plotting, and is a nice extra camera at least. Becomes more relevant in the Vale too, I'd say. And at least Arya has some relevant stuff happening around her after book 1, and also a unique perspective on the war... until Braavos.

>>84460675
>becomes more relevant in the vale

but the vale itself seems to be irrelevant. Even in Winds, her chapter is basically empty of content. It does nothing for the forward momentum of the plot.

>>84460708
>but the vale itself seems to be irrelevant.
Not really. It's showing LF's steps in using it as a staging ground for the next step of his plans.

>>84451670
>"And justice? Can that be found in caves?"

>"Justice." Thoros smiled wanly. "I remember justice. It had a pleasant taste. Justice was what we were about when Beric led us, or so we told ourselves. We were king's men, knights, and heroes . . . but some knights are dark and full of terror, my lady. War makes monsters of us all."

He technically doesn't directly blame LSH... but the only major change that happened with the brotherhood is what they were doing under beric (defending the smallfolks against ALL sides) and what they are now doing under LSH (hanging freys/lannister sympathizers, i.e. taking sides and killing everyone from one side because they killed LSH's son&stuff... which isn't justice in any way at all. Robb also killed sons&stuff. Should the BWB follow Daven Lannister and hang all those who took part in killing his father Stafford? From the reader POV it makes sense to follow catelyn because she's from the "good side"... but from the BWB catelyn/Robb are no different than Stafford/Daven.
It's not justice to kill just 1 side when they both commited killings.

>>84460844
well to be fair one side had people killed in battle and the other side had people killed in a heinous violation of an ancient law

>>84460187
I read there was some theory about Qyburn that he will release some sort of black death/plague in TWOW and he WILL USE Ser Robert Strong for his own purpose.

Anyway, Qyburn is based and he will deal with Dany and her dragons.

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>>84448386
>Finally start watching the show so my friends will shut up
>get to episode 9
Holy shit Joffery is a fucking cunt

>>84461445
best leave now before people bombard you with spoilers

>>84460909
not everyone gives a fuck about guest rights.
The BWB doesn't.

>Guest right don’t mean so much as it used to. Not since m’lady come back from the wedding. Some o’ them swinging down by the river figured they was guests too.

Plus, Robb's side only killing people in battle is straight up false.

Could bring you a lot of examples, but this one speaks most :
The Stark side hung commoners for the crime of fucking Lannister men("They lay with lions"). Brienne found the corpses. This would already be bad enough, but they also might have unwillingly fucked them. Maybe not straight up rape, but fucking with them to get under their good graces because they feared from their lives and all under the Lannister occupation. That'd be like hanging a jew who fucked a nazi to try&save his family.

And we don't hear much about it because no POV characters, but I'd be willing to be that Roose Bolton didn't exactly do all that much good with the armies he controlled, even before the RW, given that bit about him raping a girl under the tree her (former) husband hung form and all that.

From the BWB pov both sides are monsters. Hence why they were fighting(or "defending", wtv) against both sides early on.

>>84461445
>>84461484
but feel free to come back if you marathon it all and want to shitpost about it, /got/ is always welcoming

>>84461492
isn't it cute how they still call her their lady?
based peasants loyal to their rightful lords

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Why does the show have no food porn like the books?

>... creamy chestnut soup, crusty hot bread, and greens dressed with apples and pine nuts. Then came lamprey pie, honeyed ham, buttered carrots, white beans and bacon, and roast swan stuffed with mushrooms and oysters.

>>84461492
>The Stark side hung commoners for the crime of fucking Lannister men("They lay with lions"). Brienne found the corpses

I got the impression this was just carried out by marauding soliders some distance from camp without direct instruction from their superiors

>>84461624
Probably. I wonder if it was part of some sort of camaraderie thing with their riverland allies that drove it.

>>84461605
D&D simply don't have the appetite...ehm...artistic vision

>>84461492

We know Roose intentionally held back his own men in the Battle of the Green Fork, and when the North was heading back to the Twins he made sure his men were safe, leaving men loyal to the Starks to die or get captured in both occasions. He was undermining Robb from the beginning.

Maybe actually read the books next time, and not the wiki or just what you read in /got/.

That Brienne incident was in the show, too. Not the books.

>>84460351
Qyburn did nothing wrong

>>84456641
>Brienne’s Unnamed Mother

I'll refute this as soon as whoever wrote that garbage tells me important 3 things about Brienne's father.

Because aside from his name, his surname, the place he rules from.. We hear next to nothing about him.

>>84458186
saving for masturbatory purposes
don't judge or bully

>>84460675
Braavos/Faceless Men chapters were kinda comfy, interessting and chil to read.

I kinda liked the Old Kindly Man.

>>84461703
huh, was that 'lay with lions' thing show OC? That's pretty good. Not so much the bit where Brienne effortlessly BTFOs the three shitlords, but other than that.

>>84457731
I like
>I am but a young girl and know little of the ways of war.

>tfw Dany is trying to be witty/sarcastic when she says that
>she doesn't even realize she's fucking retarded and knows nothing and only wins because plot armor/WMD dragons

>>84461445
Best character desu

>>84461492
>That'd be like hanging a jew who fucked a nazi to try&save his family.
nothing of value is lost in this sitaution what's wrong with it?

>>84459226
>She just wants to if possible.
She literally got Jon to attack Ramsay by saying "We have to save Rickon!"

But right before the battle she told him "Rickon is dead, no matter what we do".

>>84452346
Asspulls make you "a powerful character" now?

>>84461728
Um, how about this:

>According to Randyll Tarly he is a good man.
>Selwyn is remembered by Brienne as having a new woman every year.
>He kept a singer every year of Brienne's childhood, allowing her to memorize all the songs.
>When Davos Seaworth is sent to ask after the allegiance of the stormlords, Lord Selwyn only agrees to a midnight meeting in a grove with Davos, where the Evenstar informs him of his refusal to join Stannis Baratheon.

What now?

>>84461787
That's not tyrodin

>>84461445
lol he gets worse

Spoilers

Honestly surprised he lasts as long as he does, seriously he is probably the most unlikeable character in the series, even Ramsey has aspects to sympathize with. Can't decide if he's written badly or not, he is almost comedic in his unlikeability, like the whore scene.

I doubt people would really allow him to do some of the stuff he does even as the King to be honest. I guess he is supposed to be mentally fucked due to incest and that's his character but it seems like a bit of a cop out to me. I can't really see him as a real person a lot of the time, he leans a bit far towards feeling like a product of the author, made to push the plot and do nasty shit.

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>>84455595

>>84461703
>Maybe actually read the books next time, and not the wiki or just what you read in /got/.
>That Brienne incident was in the show, too. Not the books.

You're literally retarded.
How about you read them for a start?
"They lay with lions" is straight up from the books.

In the books Jaime goes with "Your sides, not mine"
On the show (iirc) he says something like "Starks did this" in attempt to shame Brienne, but she replies "I don't serve the Stark, I serve Lady Catelyn".

Nothing worse than a fucking showfag calling others (wrongfully) on being showfags, because he thinks that if something was on the show it wasn't in the books.

>>84461703
>>84461966
>The wench was staring up at one of the dead women. Jaime shuffled closer with small stutter steps, the only kind the foot-long chain permitted. When he saw the crude sign hung about the neck of the highest corpse, he smiled. "They Lay With Lions," he read. "Oh, yes, woman, this was most unchivalrously done . . . but by your side, not mine. I wonder who they were, these women?"
"Tavern wenches," said Ser Cleos Frey. "This was an inn, I remember it now. Some men of my escort spent the night here when we last returned to Riverrun." Nothing remained of the building but the stone foundation and a tangle of collapsed beams, charred black. Smoke still rose from the ashes.

>>84461903
disagree, he's not a common case but that kind of thing can definitely happen when you give a cowardly, spiteful little shit all the power in the world and literally no one to say no to him at that age

though I think in real life he would be manhandled by "advisors" a lot more and not be allowed to just run amok like he does, but the nature of his character is believable to me, i've known people just a bad or worse around that age (obviously they didn't have the means irl to do and get away with the type of shit joffery does in the show)

>>84462014
>though I think in real life he would be manhandled by "advisors" a lot more and not be allowed to just run amok like he does
this does happen once tywin shows up, it's just that prior to that cersei was soft on him and tyrion didn't inspire enough fear/respect

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Post people who should be king

>>84462074
if people besides bronn actually followed tyrions instructions as hand of king like they were supposed to it would have been mostly fine.

irl a king that was not of age would never be granted absolute power, it would be almost entirely ceremonial until he was considered of age, whatever that age might be

>>84462117
>shit hand would somehow make a good king

>>84461837
The fact that you copied word for word from the wiki kinda points out to what I meant. You knew nothing about him. And it's likely that you're a /got/ autists who knows a hell of a lot more about ASOIAF that whoever wrote that "muh sexism" shit.

We know next to nothing important about him, and what little we know is not memorable, hence the need to wiki it.

She would not know any more.
Plus, it kinda makes sense that we hear more about Brienne's father, given that she spent her childhood fighting and all. Like Arya shares a few more words with Ned, and sansa with Catelyn, because she's into the womanly arts and shit and Arya isn't.

I assume Brienne didn't spent much time sewing or dancing with her mother.

And that's over the, obviously, thing about how lords are in charge so of course you hear more about them. Which isn't sexism in writing, but an accurate representation of a sexist medieval society.

>>84462074
instead he just has half the court constantly trying to undermine him because cersei dislikes him

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>>84462117
There's only one true ruler of Westeros, Queen Shireen the First of Her Name.

>>84450715
Name of that artist?

>>84462160
I don’t think there’s anything bizarre about saying that Joanna Lannister, Elia Martell, Rhaella Targaryen, Lyanna Stark, et al. could have been given more character description and a sense of “interiority.” That seems to me to be a rather straightforward writing issue.

Moreover, there’s nothing presentist about noting how in some ways GRRM has somewhat misunderstood the historiography that he’s read, or in other cases chosen to exaggerate medieval European society. I’m not a medievalist by training, although I’ve read a good amount of medieval historiography, and it seems to me that the arguments that noblewomen were more active in their lives than the “Dead Ladies Club” has been allowed to be is on reasonably solid ground.

How did Littlefinger hide all the Vale knights in a castle that Ramsay owns?

>>84462160
>and sansa with Catelyn
They don't actually share a single line of dialogue in the books. In fact I wish GRRM had spent a bit more time establishing that sort of thing at the start.

>>84462147
If Tyrion had spent less times fucking shae, sleeping with shae, trying to keep shae safe, and threatening to personally rape Tommen if Cersei did anything to randomwhore#2928, maybe people would listen to him more.

basically this >>84462154
Tyrion was hand in time of war and still fucking around/spent much time with a whore, and made threats for her. Regardless of the threats being real or fake, doesn't really matter, he threatened the royal family over a whore. He's retarded.

And he didn't do anything about his 2 "servants" who were secretely trying to overthrow his family. But he cut Pycelle's beard for working for Cersei, then poisoned Cersei, then threaten to rape Tommen, and so on.

THe only good thing he did was the wildfire, but Cersei is the one who got the Alchemists to produce it before Tyrion was even in KL. So basically Cersei gave him a WMD and Tyrion pressed teh button.

>>84462347
>then poisoned Cersei,
what

>>84462439
not that anon but i think he gives her laxatives or something at some point which may be what he's talking about

>>84462347
>THe only good thing he did was the wildfire

Chain boom.

It's the only reason the wildfire had any effect. Plus he was the one who devised fireships. Cersei just wanted to throw it from the walls.

>>84462238
i tried to think of a meme answer but i couldn't even do that.

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Holy shit posting has been out of control for a while there. Has anyone begun construction of a new thread? Have you atleast drawn up the plans?

>>84462199
>I don’t think there’s anything bizarre about saying that Joanna Lannister, Elia Martell, Rhaella Targaryen, Lyanna Stark, et al. could have been given more character description

No, there isn't anything bizarre about it.
there is something bizarre about implying it's because muh sexism.

And all that side, I could name you a thousand male characters we could've heard more about, as well.

>>84462532
>And all that side, I could name you a thousand male characters we could've heard more about, as well.
Are any of them as relevant as Joanna Lannister, Elia Martell, Rhaella Targaryen, Lyanna Stark, et al. ?

>>84453540
>worst casting decision
you retard they casted her when she was young. How could anyone predict Macaulay Culkin or Edward Furlong would turn up like they did?

It's a gamble, sometimes it works (natalie portman, scarjo) sometimes it doesn't.

>>84462347
>threatening to personally rape Tommen
When the fuck was this?

>>84462439
he gives her something to put her in a coma for 2-3 days.

Not poisoned to death (obviously).
Worth nothing, tho, that given westerori technology advancement/knowledge, putting someone to sleep for 3 days surely risks to kill her as well.

You know, like how sweetsleep goes
1 dose to calm pain
2 doses for a night of sleep
3 doses = coma/death ("A sleep they'll never wake from")

>>84462593
that's why I said in retrospect dipshit

>>84462572
These 4 names...
The only one I'd grant is Rhaella Targaryen.

Lyanna Stark is kept a bit in the dark for extremely obvious reasons...

Joanna and Elia? We know a deal about them. I mean, for characters died 15-20 years ago who were not MAJOR players.

The only characters died so long ago that we know a lot about are the big players like Aerys, Rhaegar, etc..
Of course we know more about them, they led armies, fought, did a lot of things. Girls in asoiaf don't tend to do all that much. There is less to talk about. Sure they could talk about their personalities and stuff, but as they don,t do much, it's be like talking about Sansa's personality. Who gives a fuck? Only, it's dead-15-years-in-the-past sansa.

There's an obvious reason why we don't know as much about Elia Martell than we know about say Arianne Martell, and an obvious reason why we don't know as much about Joanna Lannister than we know about Tywin Lannister. And the reason isn't "muh sexism".

>>84462599
He tells Cersei that anything they do to (randomwhore they think is Shae), he will do to Tommen personally. Including beatings and rapes.

He most like wouldn't have done it, but just threatening it is bad enough, and just for a fucking whore.

And once they learn that they whipped said whores, he tells someone (Bronn? Pod? don't remember) "I told them I'd do everything they do to her, to TOmmen... but how can I whip an 8 years old boy?" and thinks "But if I don't, my threats are meaningless..." so he's at least CONSIDERING whipping Tommen, before they tell him he's not in his hands anyway.

>>84462822
what a fucking cuck I'm glad he finds her in his fathers bed

>>84463229
he needed the rude awakening

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Why are Stormlanders so fucking based?

>Robert
>Stannis
>Renly
>Barristan Selmy
>Balon Swann
>Jon Connington
>Rolland Storm
>Edric Storm
>Davos Seaworth (honorary)
>Anguy
>Berric Dondarrion
>Brienne
>Courtnay Penrose
>Donal Noye
>Lester Morrigen
>Guyard Morrigen
>Richard Horpe
>Bryce Caron
and the list goes on and on

How can one region be so based? It's like the Stormlands are the god's whetstone for warriors.

>>84463308
>renly

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>>84463359
Took a shadow assassin to stop him.

Next thread >>84463430

>>84449572
this leads me to believe that book Rickon is more intertwined with Stannis and the northern lords so they ruined and killed him for Snuh to steal everything

>>84463479
I think it's pretty clear the books were going to take a different path than the show.

>>84463662
Really?
What gives you that idea?

>>84464395
The sheer volume of differences?

>>84463308
>Robert
>Based
A literal failure of a king great bro but terrible king

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>>84464498
it looks like it's in regards to fighters/military commanders

>>84463662
>>84464395
well, allow me to rephrase, the show doesn't confirm all these thing you/that anon listed.

Some of his/your point seemed to have the reasoning "He's cut from the show so most likely his plot isn't every important!", but Theon's plot is literally non-existant on the show, yet he thought him still being alive on the show means he doesn't get killed by Stannis. Why, if he has zero plot on the show? Maybe he does get killed by Stannis and they just let him live (with zero plot) on the show.

I mean it's etiher that, or they entirely cut Theon's plot despite keeping him alive for no reason?


Also, on a side note... lots of characters are merged and taking each others story. Tyrion and Varys aren't Dany supporters in the books, they're Aegon supporter. Ok maybe not Tyrion, he might end up with Dany anyway, but Varys is definitely with Aegon.

So, is Varys suddenly gonna change side after grooming him for command for fucking 17 years? Or is Dany merged with Aegon?
Because if it's the latter... Then how can you be so sure that you know "The main characters"? Maybe Aegon becomes a main character but they completely shifted that to Dany on the show instead of even introducing him, so Dany winning on the show doesn'T prove Dany winning in the books, it might be AEgon winning, and so on.

Same thing with Jon/Stannis for example.
Jon basically stole the entire Stannis plot in S6(well, aside from being resurrected or did he? :^) ).

So Stannis losing on the show means nothing. He might win in the books, only they don't like him and like jon snow so they shoved a quick stannis loss to give the Stannis win to Jon Snow.
Yes there are things more or less confirmed from the show, but not "confirmed equivalents".

>>84464761
Wait Stannis is suppose to become lord commander of the north?

>>84452635
have you seen him?

>>84463308
>no gendry
Shit taste nigga

>>84461605
Is that cheese? That's WAY too much, man!
Gross!

silly question but I should start on season 1 and move on right? Does the show have any waste of time seasons or anything?