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Damn...
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>>83804129

Pure kino. Can't wait to watch Justice League forty five times and find the shit like this that will be in there
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>Senator Finch assumes Lex' mother role
>dies by fire
Implication being that Lex is a demon. More irony backfiring on Lex.
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>>83804173
Snyder won't let us down
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>>83804129
>>83804237
I guarantee you he didn't think that one through
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>>83804332
BvS is filled with Lex statements that basically backfire on him immensely. The most prominent being him saying devils come from the sky, when he's the one styling himself an angel "philantrophist" with his twisted halo. It's fucking poetry.
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Post kino, boys
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Is there anyone that unironically liked BvS here or is it all shitposting

I thought it was good. I really don't understand where all the criticisms of it being convoluted come from.

The martha part was kinda dumb but hardly damns the entire movie.
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>>83804532
BvS is well-liked on this board. You will have the usual suspect Marlel shitposters trying to poison the well but they're usually easy to spot.
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>>83804425
My favorite is "fists and abominations."
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>>83804600
I love BvS but those runners-up really undermine that poll's credibility.
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>>83804532
I love this movie. MoS, too.
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>>83804246

But Whedon might.
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>Zod threatens to destroy earth
>Aquaman and Wonder Woman don't even bother showing up when he starts to terraform earth
What were they doing that was so important? I mean I can excuse the Flash and Cyborg not being there since they probably haven't gotten their powers yet. But if someone threatens to destroy the planet you don't simply say "Hurr durr humanity dissapointed me once already" and ignore it.
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>>83804470
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>>83804629
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It's important for the movie to use symbolism the way it does. It all spawns from the concept: "What if Superman was real?", "How would it affect humanity?". This is shown globally in catastrophy (the 9/11 event), and more intimately through the characters of Bruce and Lex, basically what happens is the frontiers of fiction and reality are blurred, imagination takes over reality and provokes confusion, as well as trauma to resurface (all those are Snyder-ish thematics, mostly from Sucker Punch). Superman is a symbol made flesh, a living mythological being. Boorman's Excalibur talked about the passing of the Mythical/God's Age to Man's Age, Snyder studies the opposite. It inherently demands us to take our art seriously, as a reality that affects our mind, therefore we have a serious film. A film that becomes inherently meaningful in his use of symbolism, character's emotion and state of mind are linked to their surrounding, so the inside and outside are merging, and it is what symbolism is, that projection process. By so doing we are seeing the film in the same ways the characters are living it, this is a return to a mythical age.
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>>83804686

aquaman was balls deep in mera and wonder woman was in gaza helping build settlements
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>>83804532
I appreciate all the imagery in these movies and all the meaning behind them, but none of it really says anything. Like, X represents Y, but the movie doesn't make a statement about anything.

Also the movie flatly fails to connect with the audience, which is perhaps the most important thing for any piece of art to do. You can write a thousand essays on what a painting means, but if it doesn't evoke anything within you, it is effectively worthless.
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>>83804703

>fong isn't doing JUST league
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>>83804686
DC hadn't figured out what to do with them yet.

If it isn't obvious to you by now that the entire DC Extended Universe is being made up as they go along, you're an idiot
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>people who don't realize man of steel is about the suffering the world have to experience to get a hero like superman
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>>83804746
>but none of it really says anything.
Examplify.
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>>83804760
>people still haven't seen A Thesis on Man of Steel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5-14rjWUM
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>I'm older now than my father ever was
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>>83804760
Mhmmm. Giving birth is always a painful ordeal.
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>>83804795
This fucking shot. It deserves becoming a full painting. Fucking bravo Snyder/Fong.
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>>83804813
They were hunters.
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>>83804795
The textures on Doomsday don't look right.
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>>83804532
BvS has huge following in Vulgar Auteur circles. I consider it a great film myself.
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>>83804795
don't know why but that posture makes doomsday kinda look like a roman statue
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>updated DCEU slate next month along with another league trailer and aquaman teaser
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>>83804746
It does, though. MoS and BvS push th themes of false gods and perception defining reality. It's there from the very first scenes. Superman is perceived as a god, and all mankind's focused belief is what's reawakening magic and reactivating the Mother Boxes.

Did you notice how not even Ares would reveal himself to the world in Wonde Woman? JL is probably going to reveal why - it's dangerous. It invites attention out there in the dark, among the stars.
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>>83804795
Gotta say making "Doomsday" Zod was the most effective way you could possibly introduce the character.
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>>83804813
Every time. Every goddam time.
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>>83804532
It's terrible. And I could give a fuck about marvel movies.
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>>83804897
It's superior to his comics origin in every conceivable way.
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>>83804871
Sometimes I wish they just let Snyder do a Superman trilogy from birth to death to rebirth. All this Universe thing dilutes themes between authors. Snyder's vision seems to differ from Jenkins/Ayer and more to join. I hope Justice League becomes a proper conclusion for Snyder's trilogy with closure.
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>>83804860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBNSfZCK7AU
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>>83804746
>the movie flatly fails to connect with the audience

But it clearly did connect with its audience, the fact that its audience isn't Marvel's mass-market demographic is neither here nor there.
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>>83804714
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>>83804875
But what is any of that saying? "False gods" isn't a theme in and of itself. What about false gods?
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>>83804957

Visually it's very Snyder from the trailers but as for the movie itself, after having seen how much WB interfered with SS who knows. They did a bang up job with WW but I have no doubt they had a very close eye on JL.
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>>83805002
That was clearly the intended audience though.
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>muh cgi cinematography
>muh overbloated screenplays that cant even be concise nor fully committed to the themes its trying to tell
for me it was man of steel. the imagine of superman in handcuffs that made me want to believe it would be a great movie on par with the dark knight. and during the movie that scene amounted to only 5 seconds of footage of superman just walking down a hall. fucking piece of trash it you ask me. although batfleck was the only good thing to come out of the movies desu
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>>83805064
redditor plebs must leave
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>>83805022
What about what? Lex deems Superman a false God, as he is disgusted by the notion that Superman exhibits all the traits of geniune God. Lex also hates the notion that Superman, an alien "posing" as God directly interfers with his plans, a man "posing" as God.

And their subject is Bruce Wayne, who both possess power over. Their conflict is fought through Bruce's decisions to reject one God in favor of the other.
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>>83805089
But reddit loves BvS.
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>>83804553
even tho the movie is meh, the cinematography of synder films are top
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>>83805058
That was most definitely not the intended audience.
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>>83804553

This and the bit of him in the sky about to help people stuck on a roof during a flood are things I'd love to get prints of
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>>83805124
That shot is not in the movie, just saying.
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>>83804726
>wonder woman was in gaza helping build settlements
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>>83805089
>>83805116
>so much symbolism in BvS
even retards could clearly see what shillder was doing with the whole gods vs man thing he didnt even use an ounce of subtlety. pleb shit
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Snyder's DC films are human. That's why they're so valuable. It might sound a bit tragic that humanity needs to be pointed out and praised in superhero films but that's the state of the genre. Snyder took a genre now lacking of humanity and morality and turned it into an introspective study of superheroes in a real world. Superman is an actual boy, then an actual man than an actual Superman as can be as accurately portrayed as possible without it devolving into the absurd. He is a myth but also a man. He is a God but also vulnerable. He is good but also uncertain. He does wrong with the intention of making good. He makes hard choices where he has to sacrifice one ideal to protect another, more important ideal. All this reaffirms the man in Superman. Snyder takes the Superman and cranks up the Super and Man to its breaking limits. Every shade of Superman comes off bright and clear.
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>>83805124
>all computer generated
>""""cinematography""""
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>>83805127
>huge budget
>marketing everywhere
>shared universe shit
You are wrong.
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>>83805182
You complained just earlier that the symbolism wasn't there but now you're whining it's not subtle enough, even though we just had to explain it to you.
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>>83805220
Are you 12? Do you think Marvel invented the blockbuster genre?
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>>83804602
>>83804629

How subtle...
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>>83805182
So? Do you go and stare at the fucking Greek statues or Micheangelo's paintings and cry they aren't subtle?
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>>83805220

Those are studio decisions. The decisions made by Snyder in the making of the film are directly at odds with pandering to the public audience as a whole.
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>>83805228
>You complained just earlier that the symbolism wasn't there but now you're whining it's not subtle enough, even though we just had to explain it to you.
you must be talking about another anon sweetie the symbolism is crap anyway would've done a lot better in the hands of christopher nolan hell even quentin taratino wouldve done a better job at least they're passionate about movies
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>>83805127
BvS was expected to make Avengers money.
To get that, you need an extremely big and varied viewer base.
The intended audience was the exact same as Marvel, but it failed to connect with the audience.
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>>83805243
I'm saying that both Marvel and DC have the same target audience.

>>83805259
I'll give you that. But the director should shoulder responsibility for the final product.
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>>83805276
You I'm sure it was "another anon" even though it's the same illiterate poser who always does the same embarrassing posts with the same grammatical errors on repeat. But sure we believe you.
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>>83804795
Why does Doomsday have no penis though
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>>83804949
>>83804897
Sure, but Doomsday was a shitty inclusion to the film in the first place, so that point is kind of moot.
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>>83805284
Who said you need the Avengers audience to make Avengers money? Are you saying that Avengers was going for the Avatar audience then? Or was Avatar going for the The Dark Knight audience?
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>>83805208
Reminder that Avatar won the oscar for best cinematography
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>>83805290
>the director should shoulder responsibility for the final product.

Yes, and he did. The director has authorship over the film, and while the studio might have intended for the film to have mass appeal, Snyder clearly didn't. As you say, responsibility for the direction and purpose of the film falls to the director.
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>>83805299
"another anon" here. He's right, stop being paranoid.
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>>83804637
That's nice, but can we address

1. John Kent died to save a fucking dog
2. He would literally rather die than let people know about the existence of Superman a few years early
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>>83805257
>BvS
>anon compares it to greek art and micheangelo
because the greeks and micheangelo were doing it not for money but because they wanted to. shillder on the other hand just wants to be a second class michael bay and try to act more """sophisticated""" than him. at least michael bay knows what he's doing.
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>>83805352

OK, first do you understand that a central theme of MoS is the fallibility of man as relates to the assumed infallibility of a Superman
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>>83804633

The Neon Demon was amazing though
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>>83804600
>BvS is well-liked on this board.

by autistic manchildren, yes
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>>83805323
>Are you saying that Avengers was going for the Avatar audience then?
No because no one expected Avengers to make that much, most people expected it to be a clusterfuck which it was
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>>83805315
Not at all. In the trial of proving yourself a man to man, Clark must commit to the ultimate sacrifice of being a man, mortality. A BvS without Doomsday would've painted Superman as precisely the indestructible alien that Bruce feared and thus the story would end up incomplete or atleast ending on a note that would prove Bruce's xenophobia right. Doomsday is crucial to Superman overcoming the final test of becoming a man in the eyes of men.
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>>83805354
I'm comparing your annoyance with subtlety (lack of it) to how masterpieces were not subtle in the slightest. The notion of subtle = good is false criticism by pseuds.
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>>83805352
Did you consider that Costner wanted to be in the film as little as possible?
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>>83805395
Only Refn flick I've actually watched is Bronson.
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>>83804755

MoS was pure stand alone. But after that, they sat down and planned out an overall arc.
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>>83804532
>Martha part was kind of dumb

Pleb
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I love Zack.
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>>83805354
>because the greeks and micheangelo were doing it not for money
Uh. What? I really love it when these marvel drones pretend they know what they're talking about. Such as attempting to discredit Snyder because he isn't working for free.
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>>83804813
Still can't believe that Affleck ended up being the best part of the movie. Definitely should have gotten a standalone.
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>>83805417
>posts stills of zakie shillders batman movie with his jesus christ bullshit
>notion of subtle= good is false criticism by pseuds
you're reaching there m8 and man are you retarded
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>>83805354
>the greeks and micheangelo were doing it not for money

what, you think it was a hobby?
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>>83805488
I am not the guy posting caps, you have psychosis, get yourself checked.

but the fact something is or is not subtle does not automatically mean its good
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>>83805415
What about Batman killing Superman?
Then atoning for that deed in Justice League when he realizes he's way out of his depth?
Instead we have a cave troll that Lex creates as a contingency plan in case Batman doesn't pull through, but Lex has no way of controlling Doomsday, so what the fuck is the plan beyond killing Superman?
>hurr durr I hate my dad and God, so I created a demon to kill God and all of humanity, lol
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>>83805401
Empty insults hurled by someone wasting his time trying to shit on a film on an anime imageboard. Do you never feel self-loathing?
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>>83805105

>what if he's just a guy trying to do the right thing
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>>83805415
Man I love your posts, you're a deep thinker. I can always recognize when you're posting in an MoS/BvS thread. You need to write a damn essay on Superman's arc starting from MoS into JL
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>>83805512
Read about Aristotle's concept of praxis and thread Arendt's interpretation of it. It answers your question.
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>>83805457
Not saying he's right, but not everyone who criticizes BvS is a Marvel shill.
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>>83805457
>comparing BvS to greeks an micheangelo
>thinks its a literal masterpiece
seems you need some more refills on your meds buddy if you think bvs is a masterpiece
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>>83805512
>What about Batman killing Superman?
Then Batman would have done which would've pushed him past the point of redemption, becoming his own worst nightmare, his mother's murderer.

>but Lex has no way of controlling Doomsday
Who said he had any intentions of controlling Doomsday? He was losing it completely by then. He suffered his most humiliating defeat yet.
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>>83805389
Yes. Do you understand that he died to save a dog?
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>>83805510
but you sure are defending the hell out of this movie even though you have not stated a good argument for it. the worse part about bvs is it could've been so much more; it had the right themes, the right atmosphere, the right characters, just had the worse director for it.
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>>83805354
>the greeks and micheangelo were doing it not for money but because they wanted to

Michaelangelo had a massive falling out with the literal Pope because he was originally commissioned to to a much simpler mural on the Sistine ceiling and after it ended up being much more complex the Pope only wanted to pay him the amount originally agreed upon.
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>>83805553
Yeah I'm not the one pretending I know history to discredit filmmakers by claiming that Michelangelo worked for free. You already embarrassed yourself once. Your reaction images just look very sad now really. Like scripted.
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>>83805543
I've read them, but the movie itself doesn't answer that question.
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>>83805553
No, I compared your understanding of aesthetics "subtlety = good art" to acknowledged masterpieces which were not subtle in the slightest and pointed out a cognitive dissonance in your belief.
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>>83805352

He died protecting his family. He went after the dog so that his indestructible son would stay with his wife, and so that Clark would be shielded from the bullshit he faced in BvS that he was not at all ready yet
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>>83805587

He died to protect his son's identity. You might turn now around and say "That's stupid, he could have done X or Y, or Z even". But you've said there that you understand the intent of fallible characters in the movie so I hope you don't, that would be very embarrassing for you.
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P-U-R-E K-I-N-O
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>>83805354
>because the greeks and micheangelo were doing it not for money

No, they were getting paid. Really, really well paid. Just think about how expensive marble was back then. You think they bought that themselves?
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Glorious thread of illiterate poser marlels getting blown the fuck up. Any sane person would've surrendered after the first dozen ass demolitions.
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>>83805565
>Then Batman would have done which would've pushed him past the point of redemption, becoming his own worst nightmare, his mother's murderer.
And this would be bad because?
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>>83805596
Then you'd know that man's capability to give birth to something new and unique can have unpredictable and far-reaching consequences which might never stop and might grow more potent as time goes by.

>Doesn't answer that question.
Birth of Superman in Man of Steel is basically the long version of the story that happens when Lex gives birth to Doomsday. It's all connected either by sheer accident or genius.
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>>83805565

I think someone pulls the script at some point where Lex thought he could control Doomsday. Only bit that's wrong with BvS for me, but Lex was going off the rails anyway
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>>83805621
If anything, it would have been better for him to go public in the tornado scene.

>dad alive
>Clark revealed in the act of directly saving people from a natural disaster
>instead of being revealed the way he was in the movie, which turns half of humanity against him, including the only guy with the drive to kill him
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i didn't like BvS because the 'human slaying a god' angle was fucking sick, and if batman had slain superman, it would have been fucking epic. instead he refrains for some stupid fucking reason, and then superman dies anyways.

fucking gay. lex was right. superman had to be dealt with.
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>>83805636
>died to protect his son's identity.
>superson who could saved him really fast and dumb rednecks would think that they were lucky if even see them
>people from Smalville didn't gave Clark to government while saw him saving people, but if they'll see him saving his dead they'll totaly send message to militaries to lock up fucking alien
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>>83805636
He died to protect a dog. A fucking dog. What's the theme there? Is it because "dog" is just god spelled backwards? Is Snyder using the dog's death as a metaphor for the crucifixion of christ?
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>>83805686

Because he presumably wouldn't want to do that? I wouldn't want to do that, personally, become irredeemable in my own eyes, I'd avoid that if possible.
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>>83805686
Because it would've contradicted the major theme of the film of redemption and faith.
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>>83805711

He died risking his life to save a lesser creature.

You don't see any parallel with Superman, there? None at all?
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>>83805530
You have me confused with another guy. I know who you mean. He's way beyond me aswell.
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>>83805452

God the chemistry betwen Adams and Cavill is so shit.
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>>83805698

Do you think people wouldn't have turned on him anyway?

And did Jonathan Kent know that General Zod would cone terraform Earth and that people would blame Superman for it?

There's nothing wrong with it as written. Maybe it didn't connect right with people. Snyder has these strong ideas that don't always come off and I haven't decided if it's because people are stupid tools or its his fault. I lean towards the former though
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Batman should have finished off Superman, not only killing him but taking Cavill out of the DCEU entirely. Replace Superman with Supergirl in the next movie.
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>>83805780
i found it fucking weird they hired 50 year old granny to play lois
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>>83805807

>tfw no MoS 2 where she is introduced
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>>83805759
You can rationalize it all you want, but the fact is that he died to save a dog, then decided that he didn't really like the dog after all and told his son "nah, just let us die, that way we can protect your secret identity". Should have just told Superman to put on a pair of glasses before rescuing him, that's apparently a good disguise in these movies.
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>>83805711

Consider Zod, a Kryptonian, chastising Clark for wanting to save a human. That's you right now.
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>>83805886

The dog makes it back
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>>83805886
>Evansposter
I guess the mask had to come off sooner or later.
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>>83805886
>You can rationalize it all you want, but I won't listen, because reason is anathema to me and I'm enjoying my irrational hatred of this film

o k
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>>83805787
Definitely far fewer. People see a man save his father from a tornado, a very impressive feat. He might even have super strength or something.
Compare that to people seeing a man who can fly at the speed of sound and knock buildings down take part in 9/11 x 10, an event that happened because of his existence on Earth.
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>>83805017
>>83804714
Woah, can't believe I never noticed this one before
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http://thefederalist.com/2013/11/11/plato-man-steel/

What Marvel movies have papers done by college professors?

In the coming era, the truth will dawn on more and more. It is inevitable.
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>>83805975
Who gives a shit about Marvel, you dumb fanboy?
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>>83805807
>>83805848
>tfw no Supergirl vs Harley Quinn movie
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>>83806015
You do.
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What are some good comic books
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>>83806033

>we might live long enough to see a batgirl and supergirl team up movie
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>>83806056
I didn't bring them up in a fucking DCEU thread, idiot.
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if they Made Zod/doomsday into Bizarro the film would have been a 10/10.
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>>83805729
It's not like people doing things they don't want to do is unheard of, especially in fiction.
If Batman saw killing Superman as the only viable option, it's nto completely out of the realm of impossibility that Batman would go through with it.
Which would follow on through to Justice League where Batman tries to atone for killing Superman by establishing the Justice League, and trying to redeem himself in Superman's eyes when he comes back.

>>83805742
>it would've contradicted the major theme of the film of redemption and faith
>Batman comes to believe he has done wrong in the middle of the film
>sees killing Superman and saving the world as the only way to redeem himself
Moreover, dealing with contradictions to the themes within the film still fall into dealing with the themes.

Doomsday is a shitty villain, always was, always will be, though making Zod become Doomsday is literally the best and only interesting thing ever done with the character.
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>>83805967

But the Zod incident was inevitable.

And people hate and fear. Its just in built.
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>be Snyder
>be shit director
>get popular by making mass-appeal shit
>hide entry-level themes and symbols behind first year film school cinematography
>critics and devoted audience members see right through this for the shit it is
>doesn't matter, subject matter alone draws in enough of an audience to make a profit
>keep getting work because of this
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>>83806210
>be butthurt marlel
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>>83806257
>everyone saying George Lucas is a shitty director is a butthurt trekker
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>>83806350
Does that change my statement? After all, every argument you tried to present got completely destroyed and you running away only to make a pure shitpost that only exists to display your immense butthurt.

Let me do the next step for you. And that is where you claim that was your first post and you haven't been shitposting since the fifth reply.
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>>83806257
>be delusional pleb
TDK>IM=BB>MoS=WS=WW>shit>MCU>BvS>SS
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>>83806424
And what posts of mine are you specifically referring to.
That wasn't my first post in this thread, but I'm not >>83806210
The fact is, you can criticize Snyder and Batman v Superman without being a fan of Marvel's films.
This isn't a matter of either/or, you fucking retard.
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>>83805807
I kind of doubt they'll have the Superman extended family in the DCEU unless Snyder is ousted entirely at some point. It really wouldn't jive with his vision of Superman as the last son of Krypton.
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>>83805807
>Batman gears up for another superfight
>Supergirl is really excited to meet him and asks for his autograph
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>>83806518
As predicted, he sticks to the script like the braindead drone he is.

Your spelling gives you away every time. You are more transparent than you think.
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>>83806537
I agree, the same way the Batfamily wouldn't really fit Snyder's vision either
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>>83806537
I was about to say this aswell. Supergirl would interfer greatly with how Snyder has builty up Superman. It would trivialize Superman just as Supergirl trivializes him in the comics.
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>>83806552
So why don't you point me to the posts I've made in this thread, then?
What argument did I supposedly lose?
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>>83805848
>no Refn directed Elle Fanning SuperGirl movie

They should introduce her in the sequel when Superman goes to Kandor and fights Brainiac (voiced by Will Arnett).
Lobo shows up to stop him...played by the Rock Dwayne Johnson
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>>83805886
>he wouldn't die to save his dog
>he wouldn't die to protect his son
Evansposter confirmed sociopath!
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>>83806643
Refn wanted Batgirl before Whedon was signed to direct
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>>83804532
I unironically liked it. I had mixed feelings about lex and I outright hated Gal as WW but Cavil and Batfleck were enough for me to enjoy it.
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>>83806582
Eh, I can see Batman establishing the Batfamily at one point in the DCEU.
He is on the path of recovery, after all.
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>>83804129
Wouldn't the mother of a demon also be a demon?

Why a witch?
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>>83806643
Refn wanted to direct Batgirl actually. I would've preferred that over fucking Whedon.
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>>83804602
DUDE LENSFLARE
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>>83806698
>Eh, I can see Batman establishing the Batfamily at one point in the DCEU.

theres already a dead Robin, Nightwing solo film and Batgirl solo film in development.

the batfamily is already established and its clear that the Gotham part of DC is going to become a big sub-universe within the DCEU

its going to be fucking great
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>>83806741
Mythologically speaking demons are created by sexy sex between a witch and Satan
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>>83806761
If only Joker wasn't fucking garbage.
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>>83806761
>theres already a dead Robin,
>dead Robin
I don't think so. Reminder that SS Joker has amnesia.
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>>83806789
its literally shown in BvS
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>>83805000
What's the music in this scene? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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>>83806770
>Mythologically speaking demons are created by sexy sex between a witch and Satan

Mythologically speaking demons/evil spirits are born from an innumerable number of ways and not exclusively by The Devil having sex with women
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>>83806789
Harley Quinn's character introduction literally stated she helped in the killing of A Robin.
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>>83806819
His armor is shown. Not his corpse.
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>>83806775
Leto is clearly fucking talented, Ayer's 6 week script and the editing/directing fucked him over, and with Matt Reeves directing Batkino in 2019 I can see Reeves and Affleck directing Leto as a fantastic Joker.
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>>83806833

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7COrpgW4-o

the tv spot that used this is great
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>>83806846
>>83806866
>Robin is still alive
>He was just captured by the Joker and forcibly brainwashed/chemically altered to become Harley Quinn

Harley "killed" Robin the way Vader "killed" Anakin
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>>83806846
Wait I'm confused now. Didn't Harley meet Joker after his amnesia?
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>>83806789
Nice fan-fic head canon.

Did you know that every good incarnation of the Joker has no memory of his past self? only multiple faded memories

his electroshock therapy is why his teeth are shattered as well.

also why would J take her to Ace chemicals if he isnt the real Joker?

You're saying Robin created Harley Quinn?
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>>83806867
>Leto is clearly fucking talented
Sure, but the entire design of Suicide Squad Joker is fucking terrible.
Who the fuck okay'd the grilled teeth and tattoos?
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>>83805462
He's getting one in 2019 by Dawn/War of the Planet of the Apes director Matt Reeves.
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>>83805807
>>83805848

You guys just want to see Batman fucking Supergirl and her calling him daddy while moaning. Ever since Injustice a bunch of girls i've met have this weird fetish. Another one is self-inserting as Harley and dreaming of having pet-play with Batman,
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>>83804246

Snyder couldn't even save his daughter.
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>first robin
Nightwing movie is coming out (maybe). Direct live action sequel to Lego Batman

>Second Robin
Dead...but turns out to be Leto Joker (real joker is Micheal Keaton)

>Third Robin
Will show up in Affleck Bat movie to show that he has moved beyond his Superman Rage
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>>83807000

literally nothing wrong with this
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>>83807031
>real joker is Micheal Keaton
Fat chance, Keaton is with Marvel now.
Forever.
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>>83806953
It is possible Joker was Batman's first kill and that which pushed him over the breaking point.

Joke's on you Batman -> Joker is on him now.

Batman goes through great lengths to capture "Joker" alive in SS.

I don't know, there's atleast enough in the story to make it a possibility. They never say Robin died in BvS. The subject is being avoided.
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>>83806981
Id rather get that Aronovsky batman movie. But Reeves is good too.

Reeves should obviously do the Flash movie as he's an expert in working with Apes and we can finally get a Gorilla Godd
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>>83807062
Keaton already said Spiderman homecoming is the worst film he's ever been part of.
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>>83806964
>Joker is so into himself he has Joker bling,Joker phone,Joker themed car,Joker weapons

sounds Joker to me just a modern

>shattered teeth from electroshock therapy and batman smashing his face in

I'll give you the forehead tattoo though that's horrible but the only way it would work is if he really was robin and he put it on his forehead to taunt Bruce.

all of this can be fixed with a few retcons anyway. Bleach the tattoo away and have him fix his teeth.
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>>83805194

fucking this
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>>83807031
>real joker is Micheal Keaton

I really wished they hadn't wasted Michael Shannon on Zod, as his frame and facial features would be great for the Joker.
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>>83807075
Flash's villain should be Thawne.
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>>83805284
No, bvs never aimed at 6 years old. The avengers did, wb merch was also focused on an older Audience, mostly clothes.
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>>83806903
>Harley is male

Would certainly explain the lack of curves and freakish strength
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>>83804602
This is insultingly pretentious
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>>83805194
>Snyder's DC films are human.
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>>83804532
I thought it was only okay. Would have been much better had they not did the death, removed doomsday and saved wonder woman for later.
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>>83807070
>They never say Robin died in BvS
Note that this isn't dialogue, it's information from an outside narrator.
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>>83807049
>Batman gets to fuck Talia Al-Ghul, Catwoman, Batgirl, Wonder Woman, the Russian ballerina team, Poison Ivy and Supergirl
fuckin Gary Sue bullshit
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>>83807070
Don't get me wrong I like the idea anon I just don't think any of it adds up when you read some of the novels of the DCEU films especially SS.

him being a broken Jason Todd or Tim Drake would be a fantastic twist.
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>>83807049
context?
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>>83805325
Reminder that anyone who takes the Oscars seriously is retarded
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>>83804801
3 minutes in, and this man is calling the tower a penis and is talking about literal douches. I can't tell if this is satire or not.

>>83807070
Isn't that the backstory of Batman Beyond? Joker and Harley try to make Robin into mini-Joker, Batman kills Joker, and years later Robin's trauma drives him insane and makes him into the new Joker.
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>>83807112
sounds like joke to me just modern *
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>>83804129
I read that in his faggy voice. Fucking snyder
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>>83805253
>autist thinking it is meant to be subtle ...
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>>83804129

>there are people on /tv/ so devoid of any ability to think independently that they default to contrarian opinions about movies

If someone on Reddit said "Hey guys, NOT eating shit sandwiches is a good idea", the DC """"""""fans"""""""" on /tv/ would show up the next day preaching about how shit is the most patrician type of sandwich there is and anyone who disagrees is a shill being paid by the Committee to Stop Eating Shit
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>>83807206

In the comics Batman didn't fucked Supergirl. He was her "daddy" or "sugar daddy", Basically, he was the guy that paid all her shit, stalked her and trained her. The guy she went after when she needed money or tips on life choices.
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>>83804801
>ejaculated into the cosmos
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>>83807212
>I just don't think any of it adds up when you read some of the novels of the DCEU films especially SS.
I'll admit I haven't ventured outside of the films. I thought it would be a classic Snyder thing to do, subverting audience expectations.
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>>83806866
>Jokes on you Batman

Wouldn't he call Batman, 'Bats' ?
Jokers always had a few names for batman. Not a criticism just an observation.
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>>83807245
Give it a few more minutes. The guy is really sincere. He ties it all together later on.
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>>83807292
>He was her "daddy" or "sugar daddy", Basically, he was the guy that paid all her shit, stalked her and trained her.

Tbf that was probably more of a precaution thing than anything else. Can't risk somebody with those powers not becoming a good person.
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>>83807268
You need to understand that people are going to like things that you don't anon.

its part of life.
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>>83804532
you just have shit taste, we can't all be patricians. It's ok
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>>83807206
Wouldn't Supergirl basically flatten his penis during sex, though?
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>>83807400
He has Kryptonite condoms.
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>>83807400

Red sun lamps.
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>>83807310
It would be the best way to do the redhood story without Jason being Redhood have it be a big emotional reveal to the audience but the whole time Bruce has known. it could actually be an even more tragic take on the story.

could even reach Animated Series levels of feels.
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>>83806903
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>>83806903

That's pretty hot.
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>>83807292

Didn't Superman found weird that his friend was being his cousin's sugar daddy? The fuck...
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>>83807505
that picture reminds me of this panel kek
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>>83804659
He would have to actively sabotage the project. Too many other people are onboard who know what Snyder wants and will see it come to fruition. Luckily, I believe Whedon is one of those, but he doesn't have to be.
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>>83807541
Doubt it, he probably trusts Batman.
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>>83806903

B-bu-but... Harley slipped her tongue inside Batman mouth in SS...
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if they would introduce supergirl in the movies
what look would work best?
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>>83807575
Yeah they have made it very clear that Whedon respects Snyder's vision and people dont realize Whedon has done this to multiple Marvel films... some of the only good scenes in Thor the Dark World are touched up by Whedon.
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>>83807594
While wearing a "Daddy's Lil' Monster" shirt. It's messed up.

>>83807600
I think it would have to be 2015, the whole miniskirt thing might cause backlash
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>>83807588

Did Batman buy her lingerie as well? This is so fucking weird. What's the extent of Batman being a "sugar daddy"? He bought a house for her? A car? He paid her bills? Gave her jewelry? This is weird as fuck.
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>>83805002
>we want the most autistic but least profitable demographic

At last I truly see
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>>83807638
He just gave her money
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>>83807600

BEST outfit
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Why are DC movies so goddamn sexual?
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>>83806537
>>83806612
>>83806582
The scout ship Zod hijacks is literally Supergirl's ship.
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>>83807629
He better not fucking get out of line the cuckold. I can only imagine how insecure Mera's costume is making him feel in the editing room.
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>>83807680
how would that look with the whole 'armor' look the snyder movies use?
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>>83806903
I hate this place sometimes
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>>83806903
Mmmm, daddy likey.
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>>83807693
Because we have the best waifu's anon.

Now... CLAIM HER
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>>83807693
don't worry
whedon will fix that
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>>83807715
It wouldn't have an armor look.
At most, she would have leggings because like >>83807636 said, just having miniskirt would probably be too "controversial."
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>>83807693
If Marvel is for kids and nu-males then DC is for teenagers and younger adults.
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>>83807750

Why isn't Enchantress there?
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>>83807750
Faora
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>>83807750
faora is the only right choice

faora > katana > mera > harley > wondy
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>>83807702
Don't worry anon something tells me this film will be very special.

and if on release I hear the masses hating on it I'll know... Zaddy did me proud
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>>83807750
I get Katana. She's got mah back.
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>>83807715

batgod is designing flashes final suit in justice league, he can design it for her instead of it being salvaged from something kryptonian since there's no fortress of solitude
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>>83806903
Would that be considered progressive?
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I want her to devour my non-existing soul.
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>>83807781
yeah my bad when I made the image I forgot about her... she's responsible for the stuff I hate in SS.

I'll add her and Lois in now.
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>>83807831
People would find something to get mad about.
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>>83807693

>gotham city sirens wont be a small budget r18 softcore flick
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>>83807850
and steal your money while cucking you with some ugly dyke
like she did to depp?
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>>83807875

I just want to see Catwoman and Harley Quinn exchanging saliva. The SJWs would love it and my penis would be very happy as well. Everybody wins.
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>>83807914
catwoman? not ivy?
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>>83807750

>tfw detective stabler has spent the last 4 years being hate fucked by faora in the phantom zone
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>>83807934

Why not the three extending their tongues and spitting in each other's mouth?
>>
>>83804897
>>83804949
I can't help thinking it would have played better if he'd used Zod's corpse to make Bizarro instead.
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>>83805424

Is that the dude who played Rorschach? Sorry Nightmare on Elm Street sucked so much bro.
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I thought this pic was foreshadowing Joker turning Harley against her team.

>>83807693
The costume designer talks about it all in depth. It was HER and Margot Robbie that wanted Harley to show off her buttcheeks. Hope GCS is slutkino trashkino.
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>>83807985

>Hope GCS is slutkino trashkino.

Hope so too. Catwoman on her own is already very slutty, so i'm eager to see how much trashy the movie can make her.
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Damn...
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>>83808030
Fuck man, this one here is best DCEU waifu. I hope they somehow bring her back.
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>>83808066
She had her own reward.
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>>83807985
but didn't margot robbie say she woudn't wear that costume again because she felt uncomfortable with how guys looked at her.

i hope she wears something close to her classic harlequin look
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>>83808054
thank me later
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>>83807651
>BTFOs a cryptonian with just some shitty power armour

Remind, why did Batman struggle so much?
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>>83807985

I wonder what the casting of ivy and catwoman will be like, they have to be older, at least in their 30s to make sense in the dceu because of how old batfleck is

wouldn't mind some mommykino
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>>83806903
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>>83807750
>>83807781
More waifu's added now
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>>83808094

Catwoman will be a lot younger than Batman, for some reason.
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>>83808030
She would beat Wonder Woman.
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>>83808086
because batman is an idiot
also luthor has various forms of kryptonite rocks on the knuckles of his power armor gloves
(green, red, blue, black)
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>>83804871
This scene is the trailer HAS to be her looking back at supes right, or am i retarded
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>>83808126
Dr. Poison is a cute! Cute!
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>>83808147

isn't rebecca ferguson the top name being thrown around, she's in her mid 30s
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>>83807978
It's Desmond "never the same weight twice" Harrington from Dexter n shit
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>>83808162

It's 99% it, her hearing the sonic boom then turning around to see him in the air. But there's a fight in metropolis at his grave monument /location of the scout ship
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>>83808193

The runner ups.
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>>83805424
wtf i love necks now
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>>83808193
Batman is late 40s-early 50s, so...
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>>83808054
Just like when he was a lost frightened little boy Bruce falls down into a hole and finds his true self again and faces his demons with the help of Clark.

dont ever tell me this shit aint kino.
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>>83804871
I swear they better not fuck up DCEU by pairing up Supes with WW if Lois dies.
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>>83808161
>because batman is an idiot
At least he can fight.
Luthor is just some nerd in a Buzz Astral cosplay.
wtf DC
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>>83806761
There has to be content for it "to be already established"

Warner doesnt even need to put effort in this to please you mouth breathers
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>>83808237
Fake.

Catwoman or Posion Ivy will be played a non white actress. Can't have 3 white female leads.
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>>83808271
Don't worry, you're not gonna see that. The DCEU is dead; long live the Year of Batman.
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>>83808271

Wonder Woman is being paired with Batman and they aren't even being subtle about it.
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>>83808079
She said:
>As Margot, no, I don’t like wearing that. I’m eating burgers at lunchtime, and then you go do a scene where you’re hosed down and soaking wet in a white T-shirt, it’s so clingy and you’re self-conscious about it.

I misremembered the bit about her picking the costume. It was just expressively Kate Hawley.
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>>83808259
Batman throws Superman down into the deepest parts of his mind, the subconscious if you so will. Only there can Superman and Batman truly face each other with all their masks unveiled. The empty soul of Batman laid bare for all to see and the vulnerable and afraid Superman for all to see. The fight is fought at the very most personal space of Batman. It's cold and empty and dark. A place where he considers himself the boy and Superman the murderer.
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>>83807112
The forehead tattoo is a reference to the crippling gun shot wound to Barbra gordons spine.
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>>83808292
but the universe that the already released films are SET IN have established that they exist... if Jason is dead than Dick Grayson is Nightwing (even more evidence considering his solo is confirmed)

im not a mouth breather Im just a DC fan who can put two and two together you cynical prick.
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>>83808362

Not to mention that the name "Oracle" appeared in BvS.
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>>83808314
Do you think Ben claimed her already?
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>>83808147
The reason is no one wants to look at a bunch of worn out roasties on the screen.
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>>83806903
lel Joker is Robin and yall still don't get it. At least one of the Jokers
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>>83808452

He was the one who had final say on who would play Wonder Woman and picked her. There was even a rumor that they were fucking and her second child, the one from the current pregnancy, came from him, and that's why Jennifer had thrown him out from home.
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>>83808452

She had to do a test with Ben before she was hired, she originally thought she'd be Catwoman. There's no doubt he sucked on her tiny tits like he did with emily ratajkowski
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>>83808502
I love Ben so much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMq6xDHBKwQ
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>>83808502
>>83808536
shit taste desu, but I can't not admire how adamant he is about fucking his co-stars
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>>83808502
You have your girls mixed up. Ben was rumored to fuck the Gone Girl girl. Not Gal. That's the girl he handpicked. Snyder handpicked Gal.
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>>83808571

he has to fuck young attractive brunettes or else he'll turn into a blob of fat
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>>83808502

I think people made that rumor because Gal couldn't shut up in every interview about how amazing Ben was and doing dumb Twitter posts like pic related.
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>>83804795
>Superman is a controversial figure that has Senate hearing suspecting him of being a terrorist
>Build a giant ass statue to him in the middle of the city
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>>83808572

>tfw you'll never casting couch victoria secret models
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>>83808661

She has a hard time hiding her desire to have jewish children with non jewish men
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>>83808665
The statue was for his efforts in defeating Zod.

The hearings are for the Africa incident.
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Just wanted to remind you guys about how sad this article is now: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/10/24/adam-west-wants-to-cameo-in-ben-afflecks-the-batman-movie/
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>>83808572

Nope. Ben fucked her in Gone Girl.

In BvS all the actresses testing for the Wonder Woman role had to perform a script test with Ben to see their chemistry with him. Gal was picked by Snyder and his wife, to be one of the finalists, but Ben had the final say who would win the role. He picked Gal. At the time he would gush in interviews about how amazing she was and how he was intoxicated by her charisma and power.

Emily did the test as well, but i guess Ben didn't want to do repeats.
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>>83808153
Of course she would, it's not even a question.
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>>83808747
>Defeating Zod
>Incident that a large amount of people (Including Bruce Wayne from 200 yards away sister city, Gotham) thought Superman was responsible for
>Giant ass bronze statue that would cost millions of dollars
Sure
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>>83808764

Here are the finalists for the WW role.
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>>83808764

truly ben is my batman
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>>83808755
;_;
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>>83808834
They chose right
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>>83808755

there better be a small call out in the batfleck solo
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>>83808834

Now the question remains, did he fucked all of them or just Gal and that's why she won the role?
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>>83808834
>tfw no Olga WW
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>>83808834

If Emily was able to bulk up she'd have been great, Vikander would have been garbage, Olga is fine but doesn't stand out, the bottom right chick looks like she'd have been interesting though
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>>83808881

>tfw she keeps shilling the action movie she was the lead of, momentum on social media

Just give her Zatanna in Justice League Dark as a pity role already
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>>83806675
he wanted Wonder Woman, then Batgirl

so give him SuperGirl...its a cross between Wondy and Babs (sorta)
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>>83808824
but everyone was divided over Supes (funny considering how divisive the film is)

it only makes sense considering Lois would have made sure the planet made headlines about his heroics and dont forget 18 months go by of Supes helping people before the events of BvS happen.

Besides the statue was destroyed and the real message replaced it.
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>>83808661

Ben and Gal were also seen checking in a hotel outside the set. That time also coincide with Jennifer throwing him out and Ben accepting to go through rehab.

Fucking Gal was Ben hitting his rock bottom. KEK.
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>>83808834
I love the bottom right. Who dat?
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>>83808970
Yes I do suppose a completely rebuilt city replacing the one Superman tore down would be a monument to him.
Probably not in the way Snyder wanted, though.
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>>83808940
Im sure he isn't aware that these films are now in a cinematic universe that wouldn't gel with his style and the level of control he would want, which I totally understand.

that being said they allowed Snyder an incredible amount of control with his films.

I just dont see Refn doing it to be honest.
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>>83808984
With Jews you lose.
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>>83808995

The girl who did Elektra in the Daredevil NETFLIX series.
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>>83807875
wew I don't remember that in the movie
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>>83808995
Womanlet Elodie Yung
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>>83809067

It's one of the scenes in the extended cut, they basically eye fuck in that scene
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>>83809071
>>83809058

Didn't recognise her at all, honestly she wouldn't have been bad at all but after watching her in that egypt movie and daredevil I don't think she'd be able to lead a movie
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>>83808878
Shark repellent and Bat dance or we bomb the WB lot.
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>>83806675
>>83806743
Can you imagine how much WB would fuck him over? We'd have another Stanley Richard situation.
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>>83809071
>womanlet
how tall then?
>>83809104
>implying Gal was able to lead
>implying Chris Pine wasn't the real lead
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>>83808878
DCEU really seems to stay away from "easter eggs'
the only one I can think of Ostrander reference in Suicide Squad.

Should have had Linda Carter in Wonder Woman (she could have been the lady in the blue dress that WW steals)

I don't mind inside jokes in these films. Maybe Ben can have a bust of Adam West on his desk and flips his head open to reveal the bat cave behind book shelf
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>>83809221
1.65
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>>83809221

Gal was fine, her being a shit actor played into the whole naive thing but you're right the supporting actors in mans world really propped her up. I don't know how they will do a modern era sequel which is what Patty wants without a really great supporting cast again.
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>>83809262
>Should have had Linda Carter in Wonder Woman (she could have been the lady in the blue dress that WW steals)
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>>83809262

There's a couple of easter eggs in BvS, especially in that legless dudes apartment. Patty said that they couldn't get Lynda for WW but would try again with a sequel
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>>83809298
I read an interview where Patty said they'll try really hard to get Linda in the sequel.
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>>83809298

She's completely caked in makeup on supergirl, did she really thinks he'd be able to play hippolyta?
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Why Ben destroy his life by fucking his co-stars? Come on, man. Keep it together.
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