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13 Reasons Why discussion continued.... >>81506228
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delete this
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tony bless
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Best soundtrack in a while. Could have benefited from some newer music that had that angsty ass The Cure/Joy Division/Ultravox vibe. Maybe Chvrches or Bastille or something, idk
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>>81521159
bait
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>>81521143
here's my image

d-delete this
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Spoilers ahead..............
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>>81521067
>>81521143

Seriously, how could anyone like this contrived, melodramatic, sentimental and superficial piece of faux-highschoolmusicaltragedy shit. I watched the first episode, and proceeded to flagellate myself in punishment for forever losing 45 min of my life. Anyone who thinks this "show" is in anyway redeemable has bad taste in not just film/tv, but probably everything—absolutely and unequivocally.

You all just kept on watching because the main character is hot. Otherwise you're a retarded faggot, literally.
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>>81521270
I fear you lack a soul desu senpai
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>>81521270
i only watched this because i never got to live the normie high school life so this shitty show was basically a substitute

no one watched this for the main character, he was an unbearable pussy faggot
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>>81521296

unironically this
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>Episode 11: Tape subject: Clay Jensen, for leaving Hannah at her request, after they shared a kiss.

How can people take this shit show and character seriously?
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>>81521314
>i only watched this because i never got to live the normie high school life so this shitty show was basically a substitute
>no one watched this for the main character, he was an unbearable pussy faggot

yep
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>>81521314
>no one watched this for the main character, he was an unbearable pussy faggot

>tfw i could relate to him a lot
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>>81521067

How would /tv/ react differently if it was a nigger that did the raping?
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Can someone tell me what happened after episode 1? I found it ok, am interested to know what happened at the end, but I just dont have time to watch ok shows
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>>81521340
>DID I KILL HANNAH BAKER?
>I m-mean like we all failed her man but yeah you killed her senpai

fuck you tony
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>>81521503
bitch killed herself
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>>81521503

>but I just dont have time to watch ok shows
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>get a hold of some tapes
>1 minute into the first tape realize it's about Hannah's suicide
>take the tapes to the police knowing you're innocent yourself
>Bryce might go to jail
>no one gives a fuck about the other kids
>there's no tv show

if only clay wasn't so retarded
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>>81521342
> tfw you missed out on teen love
> tfw most people at the school didn't even know who you were
> tfw you never got the chance to go to a rapists pool party
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>>81521514
This bitch should have quietly taken some pills to be over with it.
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>>81521503
This happened
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This show was way better than I expected desu
I put off watching it for a while since I read the book in middle school and assumed it would be some more teen drama bullshit but it was alot better than that
Hannah was an insufferable cunt tho and clay was a pussy ass bitch
It's worth it just to see the other characters develop tho
Alex and Justin are the goat
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>>81521664
Thank you friend, I take solace in the thought that I at least was less of a robot than you
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stupid stuff

>tony apparently never has class, always watching clay
>clay taking forever to listen to the tapes
>hannah tries to make friends with all the jocks/ assholes and is surprised they're shitty people
>clay's mom is heading a defense case about the school not bullying hannah, while Clay is sitting on a HUGE STACK of evidence of bullying that is bound to come out and fuck up his mom's defense, doesn't give her any heads up at all
>hannah witnesses a jock rape her ex-best friend; decides it's a good idea to go to rapist's house at night and take off her clothes and get in a hot tub
>hannah has awesome and supportive parents & leaves them no notes or reasons at all, but makes 13 hours of tapes for her asshole classmates
>clay has his own tape ... because he left the room when she screamed at him to get fuck out multiple times
>zach didn't deserve a tape
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>>81521412
A lot more /pol/ shitposting
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>>81521503
>>81521672
Also this happened

anon fkd the webm, play at half speed
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>>81521664
>tfw people seemed to like you
>even popular kids
>but acted cold and uninterested and people eventually started ignoring you
>all my freinds went to a different school so I had no partners for projects or anything
>Didn't go to prom or my senior trip
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>>81521782
Sheri didn't deserve the tape either. All she did was not report a knocked down sign immediately. It was just incredibly unfortunate what happened right after.
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>>81521819
Why get into the hot tub? Is she retarded?
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Why was the soundtrack so terribly unimaginative?
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>>81522004

>not closing your eyes and imagining slow gay dancing with Jeff at their prom
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>>81521672
roasties BTFO
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>>81521989
Hannah wasn't telling the truth tho, she was just saying her version of events. Didn't she think Justin rapes Jess?, like Tony said it was HER truth not the actual truth. The tapes are her reason for killing herself not the be all end all of what happened
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What is wrong with the kids in this show? I mean Hannah and Alex. They have decent parents who don't seem to be completely emotionally dead and minor high school problems and yet they choose to kill themselves or attempt it. Do they care what it would do to their parents?
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>>81522201
People who kill themselves aren't normal, medication could have probably helped
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>>81522201

Alex got BTFO by photographer boy. Didn't kill himself.
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>>81522300
that's a dumb theory

photographer took his photo down RIGHT after they remind us that Alex called a bully off of him that one time, an act of kindness
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>>81521296
that isn't an argument. you can't defend a show by saying its critics simply didn't properly apprehend the show's meaning on an emotional level, especially when the characters in the show don't act like real people.

>>81521314
>no one watched this for the main character
unfalsifiable therefore irrelevant claim

>>81521342
>>81521664
>>81521850
jesus you guys are pathetic

pls take your self-pitying woes to r9killyourselves (but don't really, just stop retrofantasizing and feeling sorry for yourselves)
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>>81522456
Why don't you just find another thread? What do you get out of insulting anons?

>jesus you guys are pathetic

You're raging over a TV show trying to draw attention to yourself while others are trying to have a discussion. You have issues, bro.
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>>81522564
it's called tough love, anon

grow thicker skin

and regarding the show, I'm just here to play devil's advocate. if people can't properly defend why they like something, then that thing probably isn't very good

(and next time I promise i'll make my commentary a little less incendiary)
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>I DON'T WANT YOU HERE
>GET THE FUCK OUT
>Clay leaves
>WHY DID YOU LEEEEAVE

Jesus. At least she understood she would bleed him dry.
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>>81522659
nice reddit spacing
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>>81522659
Most people here are saying they don't like it though.
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>>81522659
>it's called tough love, anon
>grow thicker skin
What's tough love? What're you talking about? You haven't said anything, you're just throwing insults. I asked you a question. Why don't you just find another thread?

I think this show has affected you but you're too in denial to admit it.

It's ok, anon. It's safe here. Let it out.
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>continued
So its confirmed to be underage cancer from /co/ and tumblr just like dr who and hannibal during its time
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how is someone saying you have the best ass considered bullying
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>>81522846
The whole point is that Hannah takes shit differently. It may have been nothing to the other girls but Hannah is an insufferable cunt (probably due to some mental illness) so she overreacts to everything
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>>81522672
She acknowledges it which is why she says, "You left, just like I told you to" this whole thing is about her needing help and not knowing how to ask for it. Which makes the 'what could have been' scene after that sadder.
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>>81522846
she said it was because it made all the guys stare at her ass all day

and it encouraged the rapist to grab it
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>>81522907

HANNAH IS DIFFERENT YOU JERK
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>>81522911
This show needed more characters that would just come out and say it that she needed mental help and medication. Instead they all pretended like they little things they did killed her. Most people go through way worse every day and don't kill themselves.
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>>81521314
>normie high school life

Only if you went to high school with 30 year-old hipsters.

Like most shows of it's type, the kids are written way more sophisticated than high schoolers ever really are.
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>>81522846
Bullying is a term that's been rendered meaningless.

Now it just means, "Anything I don't like."
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>>81521067
Halfway through episode two and I can't wait for her to die.

They should have named the show Insufferable Cunt.
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>>81523119
not him but

it still doesn't help with the fact that I missed out on things most people in HS experienced.

I finished all 13 episodes and felt a little sad inside.
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>>81522789
>pls take your self-pitying woes to r9killyourselves (but don't really, just stop retrofantasizing and feeling sorry for yourselves)

That's tough love, anon. I'm promoting beneficial advice harshly.

And y'know what, anon? I think you're right. After seeing that first episode, I realized something: I just didn't convince enough spineless wastes of human space to kill themselves for the sake of posterity—neither now, nor in highschool. There are just too many damned people who can't seem to wrap their heads around anything as well as a noose might wrap itself around their necks. So many missed opportunities of malignant biopsy from the face of the earth. If only I bullied more. See, if someone is so easily cajoled into suicide, then maybe, just maybe, they weren't cut for anything else. Fate has a strange way of sorting itself out.

>>81522846
Because it's an insult to every other girl in the school, and because it's totally subjective. She couldn't stand unsubstantiated claims of subjectivity.
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>>81523025
no kidding, his mom is fine as fuck
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Jeff didn't deserve what he got. That episode made me really fucking angry on so many levels. Also Hannah was a stupid fucking cunt, but at least she admits to being one in that same episode, I think.
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Are all white high schools like this in America?
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>>81521314

You actually think this nonsense is a good depiction of normie highschool life?
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why is clay such a fag

does netflix think it's viewers will relate to this bitchboy?
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>>81523496
It amazes me how somebody could be so stupid as to actually write this post, read it back, and then unironically share it with the world.
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>>81523790
>unironically writing unironically
pls anon, the amazement is all mine
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>>81521672
white people is so incompetent they even cut in the wrong way
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Hannah is T H I C C
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>>81521159
you just called it the best soundtrack and then shitted on 95% of the soundtrack

this show rode Joy Division so hard, poster in Alex's room, "Love will tear us apart" playing from Tony's car, the fucking Bedhead cover of "Disarm"
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>>81521819
I want to stop being a virgin
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>>81524358
>tfw Clay's tape and we see Hannah's imagination
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>>81523496
> he took the time to write that
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The only people who like this trash are the epitomes of basic white girls.

DUDE BEING A TEEN IS HARD LMAO
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>It's a Lana Rhodes kills herself episode
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>>81524572
>never watched it once
>decides to throw an opinion in anyway
Is it hard being so dumb?
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Honestly the tub scene turned me off. Am I really supposed to believe anyone would have entered the house of a rapist and take a bath in his jacuzzi?
I'm not a fucking autistic tard like 90% of /tv/ but there's a limit to how you can play the "stupid adolescent does stupid things" card.
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>>81524624
t. mad basic
I know it's not autumn yet and you can't get your pumpkin chai but calm down
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>>81521270
Couldn't agree more. Currently watching episode 2 because of the qt.
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>>81524910
The feels haven't started yet anon. It gets better.
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>>81521340
You've obviously never reasoned with a woman
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>>81522262
Not getting raped would probably help too.

But Alex, I'm not sure why he killed himself
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>>81524527
>he took the time to read that
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>>81525203
>Alex, I'm not sure why he killed himself
It all started with him. He wrote the ass-list. Probably felt guilty.
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>>81525300
Or picture taking, eric harris-ass looking dude shot him
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>>81525251

YUNG MONEY

>A MILLIE
>A MILLIE
>A MILLIE
>A MILLIE
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Why didn't Justin just beat the shit out of Bryce when he was raping his gf
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how is tony so gay but so straight acting
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I only saw the pilot and didn't really like it. Cyberbully was better. But I'm sick right now so looking to pass the time.

What's the best episode after the pilot?
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>>81525535
Episode 6.
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>>81525380
literal cuck
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>>81525535
Keep watching until you see the scene where she very graphically slits her wrists in the bath tub and her parents find her already bled out.

The show is good, better than Cyberbully. Not sure why you didn't like the pilot, but give it a bit longer.
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>>81525535
many such cases, sad!
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>fucks up her whole life
>blames everyone else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkKwyjsJGxk
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>>81521067

> saw the first episode... garbage
> grabbed book, read it in one day. garbage
> re-watched previous conversations I've had with students during my time as a teacher

The message of the show is "rape and bullying is bad" ... well goddamn fucking bravo...

Whoever wants to waste time looking something that only tells you this and shows you characters that are nothing more than the average and regular guy... be my guest...

/tv/ , you have your problems, i know this, we all do... but why did you became a pool of nothingness? just complete void of nothing...

even Marvel vs DC generates some hate and that at least is something to motivate idiots... but stall life and make anyone wasting time with shit like this?... just because of "muh rape" and "muh bully" ?

If this way of thinking continues, I honestly will welcome death when it comes knocking on the door... and that's sooner rather than later fucking thankfully
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>>81521782
so basically this show is about psychopaths having it all in life and it starts in highschool when they're the cool jocks that can do whatever they like and step all over people and fuck them over and then they go their way to becoming CEOs later in life (but the tv show's only about the highschool times) ???

sounds like a boring show
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>>81525810
>"rape and bullying is bad"

Except they aren't

Rape is just an alternative mating strategy

And bullying is just a form of enforcing social norms.

Look at nature and you can find all sorts of cases of rape and bullying in evolution.
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>>81525810
I totally agree with you. It's like the Wire. The Wire is just 5 seasons "the inner city is crime ridden" and "it sucks to be poor" and "guys the gubmint is really mean to black people". Total garbage.
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>>81525810
I just like all the cute girls and guys anon
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>>81525705
As someone mentioned in this thread, none of the 13 Reasons characters come off as real teens. I guess the tape thing is like Bleach Girl, but an hero model of suicide for trival shit seems more teenish, like cyberbully and social media.

There's the tropes the show recycles too. Literally every Lifetime move is set in affluent suburbs with the lead dad being an architect. Don't poor people get depressed?

Also didn't like the American prudishness of the lead guy slut shaming Hannah that "some things you should WAIT for" based on a pic. This is California? What's with the Republican morals?
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>>81521782
Hannah explicitly says Clay got a tape only because he deserved an explanation, not because he was mean.
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>>81525906
nice reddit spacing bro
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>>81521819
That balding fuck looks too old for grad school. Is working with actual teen actors that much of a pain in the ass or labor hassle?
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>>81521340

THIS. this ruined the entire show. I continued watching through the meandering middle episodes to find out what Clay did, turns out it was just a hack plot device which they couldn't cash in on.
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>>81524681
Didn't she think that Justin was the rapist
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>>81526176
No, Justin wasn't therapist
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>>81525924
Yeah, it wasn't perfect. I think that it relied heavily on beliefs that a lot of people held ten years ago but not so much anymore. The amount of times the Asian lesbian basically blamed Hannah for being raped... like that would ever happen in reality.
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How did you feel when you saw this scene? How do you feel knowing you will soon see this scene?
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towards the end justin actually becomes pretty based
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>>81526346
hew is from minute 1 to be honest
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>>81526237
Yeah but she thought he was
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>>81521782
>>81526306
Reminded me of that Christine Chubbock case where she kills her self in front of her co-workers. THAT makes more sense. Let the people you hate deal with cleaning up the mess. Why do that to your parents?
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>>81525906

completely agree with you... but i also have a brain and i have evolved beyond "alternative mating strategies" and "enforcing social forms"...

but hey! to this date, i thought everyone had evolved beyond australopithecus afarensis status
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>>81526462
Hannah makes no sense honestly

She clearly feels like life will continue after she dies and greatly cares about affecting people after her death, and then she goes and offs herself despite her parents and doesn't even leave them a note
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>>81526522
She feels life will continue for others, but she ultimately kills herself because she doesn't see a reason for her life to continue. She sees herself as a burden to those around her, especially her parents.
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I have to fap everytime I see sheri

sooo fine
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>>81525203
>But Alex, I'm not sure why he killed himself

Season 2 will be the Alex story.

It'll be another 13 tape format with the same characters, in which he blames everyone for making his his life hell, especially Brycebecause Bryce fucked him too.

We'll get 10 seasons, with one character killing themselves at the end of every season.
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>>81526650
which one is that again?
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>>81527171
I want to be fucked by Alex.
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>>81521270

I have to laugh every time I see somebody criticizing great television shows made for us normal people who actually leave our house to interact with other normal people. Fuck these autist cunts in their fedora-wearing asses. It's like some unwritten rule in their pathetic notebook that they have to be miserable at everything, that the world is "shit" and everything they hear or see is "shit" and the agenda of everyone is "shit".

We get it. We watched that South Park episode, too. You have Asperger's Syndrome. Now drink some whisky, lighten the fuck up and seek help for it. You're not the only one in that boat, bucko.

WE rule this board, now. WE decide who's cool and who's not. You rock spiders clinging to the 4chan of the past? The ones that yearn for Bela Tarr marathons while you lick Dorito crumbs off of your fingers and weep for "being born in the wrong generation"? You're archaic. You're ancient fucking history. You've been left behind.

Come out of your basement, you cave-dwellers. Come and celebrate the new millennium by watching 13 Reasons with the rest of us. It's the present year and we have cake. Even though it's a lie.
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>>81526437
A therapist? He's just a high school kid
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>>81527175

nigress who ran over the stop sign
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>>81527235
>lemon key face
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>>81521819
can u make a webm of alex in the pool?
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>>81521067
ONe of the worst shows I've ever seen.
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>>81527251

take that back
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>>81526306
i didn't watch that scene because it would have made me pass out
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who the fuck told hanna actress to fucking comb back her hair?

in some scenes she does that and it looks like S H I T
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>>81521296
The show will piss off anyone who has actually dealt with suicide. It's genuinely unmoving in that the main girl Hannah is unlikable as fuck. Glad she offed herself, she was a selfish judgmental victim complex having cunt.
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>>81521787
A lot of "burn the coal" memes
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>>81527382
>The show will piss off anyone who has actually dealt with suicide
do you have a personal experience of this or are you just writing whatever pops in your head?
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>>81527328
really cute with short hair tho :3
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>>81527465
Alex done paid the toll to be honest
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>>81527211
Hey this is actually decently well written rage-ohol

>even though it's a lie

7/10 if shitpost
3/10 if sincere
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>>81527171
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alex made me feel like a pussy for never getting in a fight

he took his beating like a man, even tho he's legit a twink
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Why people say Bryce raped Hannah?

She doesn't fight back, and she allows it, because she wants a reason to suicide.
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>>81527211
>>81527211
t. No life experiences cuck
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>>81526306
I can watch all those REKT threads, but I clinch with someone slashing his pulses with a razor.
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The ending made me really sad specially for Clay and Hannah's parents. I feel no sympathy for Hannah desu she was a cunt.

>loses the deposit money the dumbest way possible
>gets upset and melodramatic because parents got mad at her
>after she cost them hundreds of dollars when she well knew they were already struggling

How the fuck were they supposed to react then
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>>81528152
You've been posting the same tryhard edgy shit in every thread, calm down already.
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Alright is it actually good?
I got fooled into watching that piece of shit The OA and I wont make that mistake again
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>>81528625
Yes it's good.
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>>81528537

It's my fucking first post on 4chan in months
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>>81528700
Should you watch it if you're depressed and have just lost someone to suicide?
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I already played Life is Strange
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>>81528537
And isn't a bait, it's true. At least on the books
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>>81521143
fpbp
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>>81528766
Maybe. It's just a TV show. It may help you deal with it, it may trigger emotions. I can't decide that for you bro.

Just watch a few eps, if it gets too heavy drop it.
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>>81528766
not the most brilliant idea
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>>81527211
pretty good pasta.
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>>81526107
Kek
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>>81526107
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>>81521672
good job, so many ugly people in the world and this bitch is hot so she is 1000000 steps ahead of them and she get bullied in hs so she kills herself
dumb cunt
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>>81528266
pretty sure he's strolling for a trolling anon
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Reminder if you watch this show made for moody teenage girls as a 20 something adult male you should be ashamed
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>>81528941
what if i'm a teen girl?
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>>81529001

hey
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>>81521143
Yup.

Fuck yourself, op
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>>81521067
Friendly reminder that Hannah is NOT ATTRACTIVE, and you are a faggot beta numale if you think otherwise.
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So are we supposed to feel bad for Hannah because not everyone treated her like a princess 24/7? Nothing out of the ordinary happened to her. Fuck this normie show. Only good character was based Tyler
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>CLAY NO
>whats wrong?
>STOP..
>Hannah I-
>JUST LEAVE ME ALONE
>""""really tho half of me wanted you to stay... and the other half of me wanted you to go..""""
>Hannah really I'm so sor-
>GET THE FUCK OUT REEEEEEE
>""""omg why'd you have to leave""""
>""""you were different, good and kind""""
>""""it was the worse thing ever""""
>*commits suicide*

uhhhhhhhh
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>>81529241
when this scene happened the only thought that went through my head was "i'm glad you killed yourself"
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>>81529227
>Bryce: the post
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>>81529110
anon, this board is for sighted posters only. we judge girls by their *looks* not their voices, anon
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after binge watching it today, this show was PURE kino

idc what anyone says
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>>81529227

what do you think he'll use the pipe bomb for? :3 uguu~
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bryce was the most calm and level headed kid in the entire lot
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>show about suicide
>the suicide isn't a man

>Typically males die from suicide three to five times more often than females. Use of mental health resources may be a significant contributor to the gender difference in suicide rates in the US. Studies have shown that females are 13–21% more likely than males to receive a psychiatric affective diagnosis. While 72–89% of females who committed suicide had contact with a mental health professional at some point in their life, only 41–58% of males who committed suicide had made use of this resource.
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>>81521314
Neither did selena gomez, which is why this show is so inaccurate. High school isn't some single hierarchy where everyone interacts and everyone is working towards the top. Students are pretty well splintered into minimally interacting groups, specially between groups that don't have much in common. I'm surprised this cliche' is still alive. given even fucking 21 jumpstreet was aware of it, you would think a serious drama about high school life would get it right.
>>81522456
>unfalsifiable therefore irrelevant claim
it can be falsified by finding a single person who did you idiot...
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>>81521819
That looks like someones fantasy.
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if you could be one character in the show, who would it be?

I'll start: Bryce
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>>81529967

Sheri so I could fingerblast my self every day and get BLEACHED
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>>81528700
No it's not.
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>waaa everyone says I'm a slut it's so horrible
>*proceeds to try and fuck every single guy (and a chinese girl) she can lay her eyes on*
>i w-w-was only gonna put out on like date three

hwat
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>>81529241
>I killed myself because I'm a woman

Seems pretty appropriate desu.
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>>81530156
>proceeds to try and fuck every single guy

this never happened

the only guy she tried to fuck was Clay
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>>81530242

she tried to fuck marcus but he moved too fast for her liking
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>>81530275
same with Justin
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>>81530242
>>81530275
>>81530311

she was a HUOARRR
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>>81521314
I'm a "highschooler" (2nd year of swedish gymnasium) and this show isn't even close to depicting real highschoolers. If you want something closer than this melodramatic garbage, watch SKAM.
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>>81530376

degrassi is top tier high-school kino
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>>81530376

Go to bed Abdul, we're talking about glorious America here, not your cuck-infested shithole.
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>>81529967

bryce was actually a chill motherfucker
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>>81530376
>2nd year of swedish gymnasium.
That means you are under 18. MODS
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was it autism?
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Just watched Episode 6, the Valentines one. Can I please get spoilers on what happens with that Asian who went back to see Hannah who didn't understand what "DTF" was?
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>>81530467
At least my country isn't >50% white in youth and schools aren't completely infested by leftists
>>81530500
It means I turned 18 this march
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>>81530528
fucking WOW

this bitch
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>>81529757
You have to be if you want to rape 2 people and get away with it. He was also pretty confident.
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SPOILER: THE BITCH KILLED HERSELF BECAUSE SHE GOT FINGERED BY SOME CHAD FROM ALL THE PREVIOUS BULLYING RUINING HER SELF ESTEEM

I READ THIS WHEN IT WAS IN THE TEEN ANGST SECTION AT BARNES AND NOBLE
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>>81530689
ALSO THE AUTIST BOY WHO ACTUALLY GIVES A SHIT DIDN'T DO SHIT, SHE JUST INCLUDES HIM TO MAKE HIM FEEL BAD FOR FIVE MINUTES AND THEN SMILE WARMLY FOR ANOTHER FIVE BEFORE FORGETTING HER
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>>81530689
>>81530748
such is life
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>>81521067
Honestly, I thought this was really good. The acting was good, a little over the top at times, there were no major plot holes or anything of the like, the script was good and the structure of going back and forth between Clay and Hannah worked well. It was the first TV show in a long while which actually made me feel for the characters (since I'm a beta robot I could see myself as Clay).
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I wish I had a bro like bryce to teach me alpha ways when I was growing up
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i hope we get more beats by dr. dre sponsored media in the future
anyone else?

>>81530784
>The acting was good
fucking kek
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>>81530545
He tries to get with her in a nice way, Hannah gets mad and tells her to fuck off loudly in public. Dempsey than steals some written compliments about her which Hannah confronts about
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>>81530798
Well excuse me mister! What was so bad about the acting?
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>>81530795
That was Jeff you moron
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do they call him clay because of the embarrassingly fake clay scar on his forehead?

>>81530810
his issue was probably that the acting was fucking terrible
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why was clay screaming like an autist after bryce kicked his shit in
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>>81530842
He got what he needed on tape
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Currently watching Bryce rape Hannah what the fuck
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>>81530850

ohhhhh
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>>81530855
pretty hot innit
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>>81530855

bro she was asking for it, maybe get laid sometime
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>>81530842

Because he thought he was a clever boy and got his confession on tape, but the reality is that the "confession" wasnt a confession at all and it wouldn't hold up in court. Bryce did nothing wrong.
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>>81530832
Really? I thought it mostly alright, with a few scenes where it wasn't bad so much as misdirected.
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jessica had a nice ass
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>>81530871
Surprisingly the Clay x Hannah scene was sexies which is weird because I usually don't like vanilla.
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>>81530887
Will we talk like grown ups after?
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>>81530940

ya
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>tfw best girl is responsible for the death of best boy
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>>81530997
why do you like lemur girl so much?
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>>81530997
>Tfw no Chad Senpai to invite you to parties and make you cool
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>>81530916
>sexies
Sexier
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>>81530914
Jessica a shit, how the fuck did Justin pic her over Hannah?
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>>81531046
I literally had that, but he did better in school than me too

It's not like they make it look on TV and he couldn't save me
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>>81531100

Cause Hannah was a prude and Jessica was a wild cheerleader
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hannah was so selfish to kill her self when she had such loving parents

if anyone should have killed themselves it should have been justin
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>>81531038
I think she's cute and the most sane girl on the show
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>>81531214

shes my waifu
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I want to cuddle with Hannah baker
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>>81531346

she would probably sperg out on you like she did on clay
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>>81531369
I'll stay with her because she is practically begging me to fuck her
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>>81531415
>because she is practically begging me to fuck her

have fun with her claiming you done raped her after all when she decides to flip flop back and forth again
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>>81529834
then find me one person who did

from where we're sitting, its unfalsifiable, anon

do you not understand what context is?

jesus, you make my dead frog seem smart
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>>81531448
In Bryce's defense Hannah has intense "fuck me" eyes.
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>>81524276

It's down the street not across. Weirdly learned from my Doctor cousin. she did it right.
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>>81525535

I like 10 personally
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>be teen
>new in town
>get matched with a friend a school
>build kind of a relationship with that person
>meet twink in cafe with friend, befriend him as well
>party gets thrown, get invited
>dont wanna be a bitch so you go
>see co-worker you kinda like
>also see jock like him more for whatever reason
>give him your number, get call a few days later
>go out to a park with him
>get compromising pic taken
>jock gets the pic spread by dick friend, does nothing to stop him
>get called slut for next few months
>friends start dating, get cut out
>twink stops dating ex-friend
>get slapped cause ex-friend thinks twink left her for you
>twink makes list put's you as best ass
>start getting watched by everyone at school
>jock 2 assgrabs you at a supermarket
>have a creep outside your window taking illegal pics
>befriend chink, convince her to help you catch creep
>get drunk for no reason, make out with chink pic gets taken, realize skinny fuckboi is the creep whilst pic gets spread it around school
>chink faults you for her being gay, cuts you out
>Get dash of hope when respected guy invites you to go out for valentines day
>get stood up for over an hour
>guy arrives, molests you right in the middle of the restaurant based on a rumor you didn't start
>chick jock tries to help you, you lash at him
>chink jock approaches you a second time, you make a scene in front of the whole school
>chink jock starts stealing your only lifelines out of spite
>write heartfelt note to him explaining why the notes were important to you, get shit on again
>befriend faggot at poetry club
>faggot shares your deepest thoughts with the whole school against your wishes
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yall know the scene in Nocturnal Animals where Kickass does pushups on the street in front of Jack Gylenhalelna and says "vagina boy" a couple times? he stretches the "i" in a melodic way

that's how i feel about Clay
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>>81531813
>skinny white boy who's trying to constantly date you while you both hesitate to do anything asks you out to a party, you decline
>after some thinking, you decide to go regardless
>have a nice time with skinny white boy friend
>go to room with him
>about to have sex
>lash out at only guy who ever remotely respected you up to that point
>tries to help you multiple times, keep telling him to fuck off
>subsequently witness your friend get raped
>try to get out
>get a ride from cheerleader
>cheerleader hits and breaks a stop sign
>against your wishes, cheerleader deserts you after refusing to call the police
>cause crash out from broken stop sign, skinny friend's friend is killed
>lose hope for life
>try to be useful, convince parents to let you do a deposit for them
>lose money
>get yelled at by parents
>decide to go on a walk to internalize what happened
>walk by the house of the guy who you witnessed rape your ex-friend
>see party, go in
>get convinced to get mostly naked and jump into hot tub
>most people leave, rapist jumps into tub and against your wishes and trying to get out, rapes you
>die inside
>decide to record tapes about how everyone fucked you over and how things stacked on each other
>decide to try one more time
> go to """"Guidance Counselor"""" for help
>""""Guidance Counselor"""" trivializes your situation
>give up, catch whole encounter on tape
>give tapes to friend, mails a second set
>go in bathtub
>slit wrists
>die
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>>81522075
>ywn do this

oh god it hurts
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>>81525761
The manlet fucking deserves it because he is a fucking manlet
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Wow Porter is a piece of shit
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>>81522075
>hotter means whiter
wow that app is racist
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so the nigger was at fault?
>>
why didn't the counselor just ask if she got raped or not, why did he beat around the bush
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>>81532068
They all were at fault but as a adult who LITERALlY gets paid to CARE about students, he ranks high on the at fault list.
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>>81532118
It's triggering
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>>81532118
Because he didn't care enough
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I found it interesting that while Clay was socially awkward, he was stupid. He was fairly intelligent, knew his shit at school and tutored people. It was also interesting to see a Dad, Clay's Dad, represented as level headed, understanding and quite intelligent himself.

A lot of TV and movies likes to shit all over dads and make them incompetent pieces of shit. 13 reasons didn't do that.

I've gone over my issues with 13 reasons before, so, this one time, I'm saying something positive about it.
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Hannah is just a bad character to focus on. I understand she has severe depression but she treats everyone like shit and wonders why she gets shit thrown back. And also makes a lot of real bad decisions, some are inexcusable.

Im not sure if this was on purpose (make her flawed) or if the writers thought they were making some cute quirky character they wish they were in highschool.
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>>81521994
She didn't get in the hot tub with him. She got in the hottub with her friends. They spent the night chatting and chilling. Her friends left one by one, she was the last one left. She relaxed for a few moments, looking up at the stars. Then he jumped in. She tried to get out almost immediately, and he grabbed her.
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the suicide scene hit me right in the feels
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>Skye wanna hangout sometimes
>okay when?
>...how about now let's just walk around
I don't even like Skye but that was good, life is short fuck the bullshit.
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>>81521672
Is it wrong through this entire scene I was just staring at her heaving tits?
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>>81531462
falsifiable =/= has been falsified
I get you're playing an idiot, but it's clear there's some authentic retardation here.
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>>81532299
I jerked to the Webm
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>>81528296
She didn't even slash, she dug it in hard, and ripped a deep and thick line. Probably one of the more convincing wrist cutting scenes I've seen in a movie or show. I have a bunch of issues with the story and concepts and characters in this, but they did a good job of making the suicide look convincing. I'll give them that.
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Why did the show clearly write Courtney to be a hot girl? ( Asian dyke ) She is clearly a 4 at best. When alpha Monty called her hot it ruined the fucking series.
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>>81526306
felt like a helper pepe
>>
Should there be a season 2?
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Katherine Langford is my new waifu

>>81532441
She looks like a Mass Effect Andromeda character
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>>81530545
He tries to be nice to make up for his friend being a jerk. She seems okay with it. The next day at school he tries to be nice again and she yells at him in front of a whole room of people, loudly, embarrassing him.

As revenge....


They have this weird social studies class, with brown paper bags. They write their names on their bag, and people are supposed to put nice things in the bags. Hannah has been recieving drawings of bunnies. The Asian dude steals from it two different times, then she catches him on the third. She writes him a letter, explaining how that made her feel.

He reads the letter, and stops. Never does it again, never does anything to her again. She accuses him of crumbling up the letter and throwing it away. It turns out he kept the letter the entire time, listened, genuinely felt bad, and is one of the few people that tell the truth during the interviews at the end.

Dude didn't deserve to be on that list anymore than Clay did.

After you find out more about the Asian guy, you find out he's about as awkward as Clay. He doesn't know how to deal with his emotions, or the emotions of others, but he's attractive and talented, so he can fake it easier than a guy like Clay. But he's just as bad off when dealing with an emotional wreck like Hannah. She embarrassed him and he handled it badly, but in the way a small child would. It was petty, and childish, but not malicious, and he stopped and seemed to honestly care about what she'd written. Even before her suicide he kept her letter. He didn't need to be guilted into being a better person, or doing nice things. The truth is he could have been the nice thing in Hannah's life if she hadn't freaked on him and humiliated him because...

Well, I'm not sure. She does the same thing to Clay at the party. Freaks on Clay like he's a combination of every guy that ever fucked with her. She seemed to do the same thing to the Asian guy at lunch. Mental issues she needed taken care of.
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>>81528152
yeah dude youre totally right
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>>81532536
i think it was a communications class.
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>>81521672
Ballsy move, didn't think they'd show that scene in such a visual way considering all the triggered tumblr people who watch this kind of bullshit
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>>81532238
Asian jock said that to her so I think this was on purpose
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>>81532551

damn bitch lookin' fine af, all wet and shit.
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>>81532687
>Let me just get in the hotub of the person who I just saw rape my friend
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well I just finished it. I was making fun of this show before I watched it, now I'm sad.
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>>81532789
welcome to the club lad
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>>81532789
I'm sad too fuck, at times I wish my time at high school was more exciting and social but after watching this I'm kinda glad I stayed out of the limelight.
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>>81532728
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>>81532789
Yeah it nearly got the tears flowing for me.
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Im mad because the only Tony Hannah interaction we saw was her complimenting his car at the college fair
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>>81532980
Also the dance.
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>>81532980
>>81533046
and at the lockers when her gave her the cassette recorder
>>
can we talk about best boy Jeff?
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>>81533046
>>81533915
Yeah but I kinda wish we saw why he felt so indebted to her, like he is a nice guy to her the whole time it makes it seem like she could've just told him everything and the could've worked through it.

He is pretty much Jeff but alive and gay
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>>81534063
I knew a coworker like Jeff, even though we weren't in high school he broke me out of my robot shell and took me to clubs, parties, hell he even took me to San Diego for the first time in my life. He would literally get mad at me for staying home and playing video games instead going out with him and his friends.

He had everything I wanted, a gf, a nice job, a nice car, and friends. Sadly he accidentally overdosed on medication and died the week before Christmas this year.
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Zack did nothing wrong.
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>>81534200
I don't even remember what he did, something about a note?
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>be American
>sue the fuck out of everybody
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>>81534063

Jeff was the only charter who needed more. He was a true bro from teaching clay how to party to pulling away that kid. If there is a second season of this this show it should focused on Jeff an with clay along with the school shooting
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Who /Tyler/ here?
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>>81532010
No, he wasn't. Porter didn't do a perfect job, but who does? Guy was genuinely trying to help kids and that was his job.

Clay was a cold-hearted moron for going to Porter and blaming him.
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>>81534608
He told her to "move on" after he described a rape to him
>>
Did Tyler buy the guns to do a school massage?
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>>81521067
Give me 13 reasons why this is shit

It looks like Gone Home
>>
Bryce was the best bro
Would hang out with him

>b-but hes a raper
Whatever, everyone do something wrong in life
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>>81534872
but he's a raper
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Mr Porter, an experienced counselour, didnt call Hanna's parents after her visit on tape 13
I call this bullshit
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>>81534872
Jesus this board is so fucked up, so many people defending Bryce. I think I have figured out why. I think they must be such beta kissless virgin cucks that they fantasise about being like Bryce and being able to get away with rape. Shits fucked desu, you all need help.
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Maan, id lost my sides if Bryce raped Clay when he went to buy weed

>"youre my fucboi now ;)"
>>
Everybody hate chris is so much better than 13 Reasons why

Chris is
>black
>poor
>bullied
>robbed
>his belongings comes from his younger brother
>lives in a dangerous neighborhood
And yet, he turn everything into a comedy
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>>81529809
This show should be about a japanese school buy jumping from a bridge
The show tell his storie of how his fathers are strict, how he get in debt with yakuzas, how they kill his loved doggo

Id watch it and cry rivers
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>>81535244
But doggos are filth. I kekd so hard in Marley & Me.
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>>81532265
"""""""friends""""""""
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>>81534969
why do you have to be such a little bitch
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>>81532500
Tes, it tells the consequences of Tyler schoolshooting
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>>81535486
Rape is disgusting, you are disgusting. Anyone who even remotely defends rape/rapists, and admires and wants to "hang out" with a rapist should kill themselves desu.
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>>81535545
Kek
Triggered

Also, its not rape if she want it
You know, women are complex, when theyre silent or they disnt explicit tells you NO, it means she wants the D
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>>81535589
Please kill your self, before you rape someone.
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>>81535607
Suicide is bad, you shouldnt tell anyone to kill himself
Didnt you watch 13 Reasons Why?
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>>81526306
It makes my fingertips feel weird
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>>81535623
Yes, rape is bad also, It could make someone, you know, kill themselves.
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>>81535589
>Also, its not rape if she want it
You know, women are complex, when theyre silent or they disnt explicit tells you NO, it means she wants the D
Jesus if you actually believe this you should honestly be in jail, that is beyond fucked up.
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>>81535658
>>81535673

Id rape you
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>>81535687
You are so fucking edgy, I bet you get all the bitches lining up to suck you off.
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>>81521748
You dated and went to parties. You don't get to call yourself a robot. Why would you want to anyways? "Friend"
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>>81535687
Id kill yourself
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>>81527171

And Clay is tape 13 at the end. Where it is revealed that encountered Hannah as she slit her wrists and just walked out and left her to die.
>>
wew lads, no one here is capable of discourse
>>
So should I watch this or?
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>>81536298
I have no tolerance for people who think rape is ok. Literally the only time I get angry and abuse people on the internet. I am usually very calm.
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>>81536326
Yeah, you should
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>>81521067
>Post yfw you're a guy who got beaten up, insulted, rejected, ostracised in high school but you never killed yourself
>Mfw I never went on a date or a party

If women think that Hannah's life was hell I wonder what they would think of guys at the bottom of the social ladder.

Minus the stalking I think it's safe to say that Tyler is /ourguy/.
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>>81529227
>that Tec-9
>Tyler looks just like Eric Harris
Pottery
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>>81521159
>Best soundtrack in a while

What's literally every teenage angst movie/series + Donnie Darko and Trainspotting? I'm getting sick and tired of the same fuckin music being used all the time.
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>>81536839
You can't really be this retarded, anon.

Hannah was sexually assaulted, humiliated and raped. Tyler got shit for being a pervert. You really want him to be the poster boy for guys at the bottom of the social ladder?

Hannah's life basically was hell.
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>>81537564
Half this board are pedos and rape apologists, are you really that surprised?
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>>81529001
Hey will u be my gf I still need a prom date desu
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>>81529834
It didn't really portray it like that tho
There were weird kids hanging with jocks
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>>81531813
>>81531849
Such is life
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>>81532238
It was on purpose
I think the characters on the tape are gonna have to realize that it really isn't their fault and she was just fucked in the head
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>>81534969
Chill it's just jokes bro
4chan is still 4chan no matter which board your on
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>>81537701
It's a joke we're not.
> taking anything on this website without truck load of salt
Pht...what you think people here are actually racist nazi's? Lol please
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>>81538282
Yeah I know most of this shit is just meming, but all of the Tylers of the world probably hang on 4chan before they shoot up schools then an hero.
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