>“I’ve never done a movie, any movie, the silliest movie, where someone, some studio person hasn’t gone, ‘Does the girl have to be Black?’ It happens every time," he says. "Black women get paid less than everybody in Hollywood.
>“Everybody’s talking about Jennifer Lawrence. Talk to Gabrielle Union. If you want to hear stories, talk to Nia Long. Talk to Kerry Washington. They would love to get to Jennifer Lawrence’s place, or just be treated with the same amount of respect.”
>I think everything I’ve ever done has had a significant role for a black or brown woman. I refuse not to. I’ve never gone into battle without a black woman, you know, a movie battle. With Tichina Arnold in Everybody Hates Chris, I had to fight for Tichina. I’m not even going to tell you who the network wanted. She’s literally as good as Tina Fey or Julia Louis-Dreyfus or any of these chicks. They’re like, ‘Tichina who?’”
This years Oscars is going to be best Oppression Olympics you'll ever see.
What the fuck does the picture mean? What so he would have no problem if Larry Bird was living next to him or is he just going to cherry pick something else like
>"Look at this cracker driving on my road..he's a teacher..he didn't invent shit! GET OFF MY ROAD CRACKER!"
I still don't know what the fuck his point is there...dentists make a lot of money. Should a dentist not make money because he's white?
Black people are 10% of the population...why would they make up the majority of a neighborhood anyway?
>Talk to Gabrielle Union. If you want to hear stories, talk to Nia Long. Talk to Kerry Washington. They would love to get to Jennifer Lawrence’s place, or just be treated with the same amount of respect.”
Guess they should have fucked Harvey Weinstein then
I think his point is that black people have to be entertainers in order to be successful in America and white people can do anything and be successful
It's a completely retarded point, probably one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, but that's what it is
>Someone who spent years in education and professional school doesn't deserve to be rich. Only people that luck in to fortune through sports or being tools for Jewish media should live on my street!
I used to defend her because I thought she was fantastic in Winter's Bone. Then she just kept getting more and more annoying until now I'm at the point where I hope she gets raped by a pack of wild niggers and she makes me want to smoke 2bh.
>I thought she was fantastic in Winter's Bone
Same. I thought this right up until she made that essay for why she wasn't paid as much as Christian Bale for 10 minutes of screen time.
It does sound a bit "me too"-ish. But Rock still has a point. Where JLaw has been praised by the media for speaking out about the gender pay gap in Hollywood for women, no one has mentioned the pay gap between whites and minorities. He's using his platform to call attention to the minority pay gap problem, which is oft-ignored.
That's not true, Patrick Ewing invented getting to the playoffs, getting my hopes up, and then getting rekt by the Bulls every year and disappointing me.
Kill me pls by the way thanks.
>WHITE PEOPLE BE LIKE
>BLACK PEOPLE BE LIKE
>Wow thanks doc you changed my life
I don't even know why "white person" is in there dentists make loadsamoney
>People actually bother to watch the Hollywood circlejerk known as the Oscars
Please, Chris Rock is a fucking hypocrite. He's just whining about black people who are already rich not being rich enough. He's a fucking jew like literally everyone else who works in Hollywood
How come these niggers never mention any other minorities? Because they're self absorbed egotistical assholes, that's why. In their mind we're still living in the 1950s
>women are paid basically based on how attractive they are
>black women get paid the least
I don't see anything wrong with this
Braces are life changing, having shitty teeth and then having good/decent teeth is life changing, finding early signs of oral cancer is lifechanging
Sure check ups arent but you get the idea nigger
no one said he invented anything. but why is he acting he had to invent something to live on the same street with people who never invented shit either and objectively contribute less to society than the dentist?
The balls on that fucking nigger. Let's look at who's essential for human survival:
>a nigger who fights for balls
>another nigger who fights for balls
>a nigger who screeches and caterwauls
>a nigger who got rich mocking other niggers for the enjoyment of whites
Yes, actually. How is this not obvious?
>Why do black people keep complaining we won't let them work
Why does someone have to let you work? Why do people have to do things for you? Why can't they just take initiative like Asians?
>just a dentist
He had to get a bachelor's degree, go to medical school for years, and work a long span in a specialization to get to his expected wage. Why belittle something if it makes a profit and is an honest living?
If I became a millionaire scientist and lived next to a millionaire garbageman, there shouldn't be a problem because we both worked for our money and chose to live nice lifestyles.
Dentistry is a service. Occasionally people who provide services will invent new techniques, but invention tends to be something that people who sell goods do to compete with other goods or create a new market.
Doctors & Dentists have to go to school & be part of practices for years before they start making good money. And apart from that only the good ones really make it.
Just because they aren't fucking famous doesn't mean they shouldn't make good money.
Also, if Chris Rock doesn't like it he should just move to another neighborhood of only black celebs.
>LOL NIGGERS R SO LAZY HAHA SLAVERY WAS GOOD XDDD
Knicks fan here. I agree.
>W-W-WE'RE REBUILDING, WE'RE GONNA GET DURANT THROUGH MEME MAGIC, LEBRON TOO, PHIL WILL SAVE US, PORZINGIS WILL SAVE US, FISHER ISN'T THE WORST COACH IN THE NBA
Fuck this team. I wish I was a bandwagon degenerate so I could be a Golden Meme fan.
>"I'm more oppressed than you!"
>"Nuhuh! I'm more oppressed than you!"
And this is between two people that live in mansions and get paid millions upon millions of dollars to play pretend in front of a camera.
>Not even once.
>he is just a dentist
I don't get what point he is trying to convey. Despite the seemingly inexplicable low regard people have for dentists, they are doctors who require a long and expensive schooling to practice. Its a profession that is extremely profitable.
The real question is why should someone who is basically a court jester think they deserve a better home than a highly trained medical professional.
>Why do black people keep complaining we won't let them work?
Who isn't letting them work? And where?
Please be specific.
This vague shit might fly at your community-college Sociology class, but it doesn't fly in the real-world.
Athletes have to work hard to earn money.
Singers have to work hard to earn money.
Comedians have to work hard to earn money.
Dentists have to work hard to earn money.
What's the issue?
>gender pay gap
Every time I see this shit I want to strangle someone.
Shit's been disproved for awhile now. Anyone who mentions it immediately announces themselves as an uninformed fucktard. BIG SURPRISE
except the rape and smoking part.
>Comedieans invent new social commentary
So basically nothing?
This picture is so cringe worthy.
I wonder what his (most likely white or jewish) dentist thinks about this.
This little stupid comment he made is disrespectful. I hope his dentist decides to fuck his teeth up.
>influence pop culture
So basically shit that doesn't exist in ANY tangible sense typically isn't even cared about by anyone with an IQ over 90.
For fixing shitty teeth like that it'd actually be an orthodontist, not a dentist.
That's a complex question. Two overly simple answers :
1. American society is tailored to and benefits white people, so white people have already created a system that stands up for other white people - so they don't need to vocally stand up for each other. Like if you have parents that support you financially and raised you but they don't come to your defense in every argument you have.
2. White people standing up for other white people, on the basis of shared whiteness, is seen as racist by the media and twittersphere.
Not saying I agree with either answer.
Literally since anti-Jewish sentiment and anti-Jewish riots by blacks pushed Jews towards that side of the black-white dichotomy. Crown Heights, NYC 1968 teachers' strike, the Nation of Islam and open anti-semitism from people like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson produced that effect.
Blacks made Jews white; even the Jews didn't consider themselves white for most of the last century
Pretty much this. Bitch goes and complains about not making as much as the lead actors when she's in a bit part, meanwhile the other woman in the movie who is one of the actual leads is getting paid the same as the girl with the ten to fifteen minutes of screen time.
That essay could have been so much different if she had just bitched about how Amy Adams got shafted instead of making it about herself. And also if she had somebody else actually write it for her because it looked like a slow fourteen year old wrote it.
Is this nigger serious? Does he thing modern dentistry just magically appeared? Modern dentistry is the product of countless inventions and innovations by dentists seeking to refine their practice.
Send this fuck back to darkest africa where the cure a tooth ache by raping a newborn.
Dentistry is no different than being a doctor or a veterinarian. They all require secondary post graduate education.
It's a highly envied and desired field that lots of people would love to work in. It's not an "average" job at all.
I though hollywood payed actors based on how well they do in movies and their agents negotiating because of said success.
So a white actor who is in a lot of great roles will get paid more then any black or white actor who does flop after flop.
Oh of course. That wasnt a shot at Americans.
It's just a lot of people have fucked up teeth. Dentistry is essential to public health and is just as important as any other form of healthcare.
People would actually die in droves without dentistry. Every person with misaligned wisdom teeth alone could possibly die without that surgery.
And that's like 90% of the human population.
It's got nothing to do with racism in the industry, it has everything to do with marketability. White male actors are more marketable in the US than any other demographic so they're going to keep going with that until the public changes their opinion. Just give it some fucking time, MLK was only like 50 years ago, modern women's lib is even newer than that. Just needs time to mix into the media.
you had to graduate with honors in Chemistry just to get accepted into dental school right, or have things changed since the 1980s?
I'm trying to make the point that getting into dental school isn't a walk in the park here
>WHY DIS WHITE DUDE HERE? HE DIDN INVENT NUTTIN!
You're right Chris, Dentists are the lowest of the low and (in a country obsessed with teeth) he probably only got to live in your area because of his privelage.
It's not like dentistry is hard or anything. That's why there's so many millionaire black dentists.
For a smart man, he sure does say some fucking stupid shit.
His point is that middle to upper class blacks have to work much harder than whites to get to the same level. A white man can live in a very nice neighborhood just by being a dentist. A black man has to be a star athlete or a famous entertainer to be in the same neighborhood. Notice the disparity in talent and effort needed to arrive at the same relative social position.
This is actually a pretty good point, and I'm usually in the camp that believes blacks create most of their own problems due to a self-destructive culture ruled by crab mentality. And I think Chris Rock and other successful blacks realize that this is true, which is why they don't live with other blacks. They live with white people. That says everything you need to understand their frustration and bitterness with their success, really.
It wasn't required that you had graduated with honors, but the ADA made sure that everyone had done tons of gen, organic, and bio chem lab hours. All that on top of predent, and so many other prerequisites that didn't even really make sense, for example my school had a prerequisite that I had over 8 hours of physics courses. I still don't really understand that one. Add to all that having to take the DAT just to set foot in the door. So yeah, it's no walk in the park.
Why don't we poll his fellow African brothers in Africa? Who would they rather have visit them and provide their services, a man of the same color makes jokes that probably at least half make zero sense to them and whines about not having enough money as da white man while they sip from a puddle, or a dentist (white and Jewish and a ginger) who could save them years of future pain and provide them toothbrushes and paste so they can clean their teeth themselves? Along with all the other marvels dentists can do like removing cavities and putting on crowns or whatever (never had a cavity or anything so I don't really know what dentist are capable of)
That's not because they're black, though. It's because lots of black people happen to live in impoverished areas. Lots of white people live in impoverished areas too. This isn't a black/white thing it's a poverty/not in poverty thing, it's less noticeable in whites because there are more white people overall
Dentists are the art degrees of medicine
The problem with your analogy is that it isn't based in the real world
There's no way to become a millionaire from just being a garbage man
Maybe innovating a new company that solves various waste removal systems, but that doesn't make you a garbage man, it makes you a CEO
The only time I've seen this "but" of his about the dentist was in a stand up routine as part of a larger home about black people being terrible with money and just buying shit, it was as much a joke about darkies as it was The White Devil.
So I don't get why he'd suddenly bring it up separate as a "muh racism" thing.
>His point is that middle to upper class blacks have to work much harder than whites to get to the same level.
Can you please provide evidence that this is even remotely true?
America currently has blatantly racist legislation SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED to put black people ahead of whites for doing less work, from race-based scholarships that give blacks free money for college to affirmative-action and tax-breaks for meeting "diversity quotas" that ensure blacks have as many short-cuts and undeserved successes as possible.
Please illustrate for me exactly how and why it's apparently so much harder for blacks to achieve what whites achieve. Be specific.
Becoming a hall of fame athlete or famous entertainer is much less common than becoming a dentist. A person who becomes a success this way can be called exceptional and talented. Yet despite being able to call themselves exceptional, they only reach the same social level as an ordinary white dentist. Not even an exceptional dentist who invented something or did a famous surgery or anything, just a normal dentist.
Blacks have to overachieve in sports or music or television to reach the upper 20% of America, white people can just go to dentist school.
>It's because lots of black people happen to live in impoverished areas
This is totally bunk though. You look at the poorest white areas in the nation and they have almost non-existent crime, let alone violent crime. There's no comparison at all. The only correlation between the most violent areas in the nation is the presence of blacks.
But you don't have to be a star athlete, they just are.
Black dentists don't live in the fucking hood unless they want to. A black dentist makes as much money as a white one of they both work at the same place and do the same shit.
Less uncommon but not necessarily harder. Making it in entertainment largely relies on you having the right face and the right P.R. company. Athletics is all genetic. The work is either done already or done by people far out of your control.
In my college credits are basically called hours there. So 8 hours would be 8 classes that would take like 4 years to do unless they let you take two a semester which would take 2 years to do then. I'm not that guy though.
Chris Rocks' examples though are actually talented people. He himself is a talented comedian, however humble he tried to be about it. Mary Blige has won over 100 awards worldwide for her music (and been nominated for hundreds of others). Gary Sheffield is a world champion baseball player and Patric Ewing a hall of fame basketball player.
These are not easy feats. This is a serious collection of talent.
>This is totally bunk though
Name some poor white cities, cities that are primarily white
Milwaukee is just an example of a crime ridden impoverished town, only just recently being dropped from the average list of 10 worst places to live
>Dude people in the waste industry and plumbers have higher than average wages.
That doesn't make the waste industry a highly lucrative field that produces a lot more rich people than most
the waste industry and plumbers have higher than average wages because
1. most people don't want to do their jobs
2. their jobs are stable because people will always need those services
No, most come from Africa
A lot do come from China and South America, but most definitely are from Africa
Even if they have the money to move into that kind of neighborhood, they often can't. Blacks encounter very reluctant sellers when they try to move into mostly white enclaves. This kind of stereotyping is built on the reputation that lower class blacks have and is somewhat justified. I mean, when you look at how prone to criminality the majority of blacks are, it makes sense that middle class whites like to keep their distance and are wary about letting them inside.
It's different when you're famous though. A household name even. Then you're an actual person they can respect.
Really fucking garbage example by Chris then and I love his shit.
Dentists are a fucking scam in America. I wouldnt be surprised if that Dentist had the nicest car and house lol.
Shouldnt blame whitey for that one, should blame the fucking dental industry.
Being rich makes you really stupid, liberal or conservative
That is, unless you made your wealth by being incredibly smart and not by inheriting it or by others valuing your talent
>average white person job.
How about one that requires nearly 8+ years of schooling and a degree to even apply?
How about the fact dentists make retarded money regardless of race?
Hell, you think Dentists are "average" I wonder what you would think of fucking Orthodontists and their pay.
Milwaukee is 40% black and only 37% white. Why are you using it as an example of a white city?
But okay, look up Owsley county. 88% white, one of the poorest places in the entire country. Almost nonexistent crime.
dentistry is not a scam it's incredibly expensive to practice and insure, like medicine, which increases the cost of receiving dentistry. If anything is a scam it's the insurance companies and reckless lawsuits which are a scam.
You assumed you knew the location and quality of where I lived on the basis that I was white.
Liberals like you typically call that "racism".
Stop getting mad that your own logic is being applied to your arguments.
>Milwaukee is just an example of a crime ridden impoverished town, only just recently being dropped from the average list of 10 worst places to live
Probably because half the city is niggers. Just like every other crime-ridden city.
Milwaukee has had a growing population of blacks and a diminishing crime rate and that's not significant?
I was using it as an example because it was a shitty white impoverished town that became less impoverished and less crime ridden
But okay, look up Beattyville KY
almost 99% white, terrible crime
>That one Liberal ITT that keeps getting his shit pushed in every time he makes an actual argument, so is now resorting to non-arguments and insults.
I don't care what black actresses have to say. I also don't care what Jennifer Lawrence has to say. None of their complaints are real. "Boohoo, I only made two million dollars this month." or "Boohoo, they didn't invent a job specifically for me!"
>Asking a question, especially that of a definition, is retarded as far as arguments go
No it isn't.
This entire thread is about perceived "racism", and one of the Keyboard Warriors that believes they are fighting AGAINST racism made a racist statement.
Again, stop getting mad when people take YOUR logic and apply it to YOUR arguments.
Everybody else is forced to have consistent logic if they want their views to be respected in a debate. You don't get an exception.
I know you are trying to be fucking dense here, but all of these people literally work and live of their creativity and wits and basically brought it to international fame by it.
You sound like an asshole
>No it isn't.
It is when you could instead discredit their definition by applying it to several different places where it doesn't work
arguing "what IS racism" is a shit argument
>Again, stop getting mad when people take YOUR logic and apply it to YOUR arguments.
Again, I'm not that anon
I just jumped in because I thought that saying "Isn't that racist" was just a terrible post
OH, oh, I get it. Because he's somewhat degrading dentists in the OP. Yeah, that makes sense.
That wasn't the same guy, you over active shit poster.
It's not racism, it's prejudice. But if you can't grasp that, this conversation is already a lost cause.
Please prove that the system isn't rigged in white's favor. I'm waiting, please.
If you actually can't understand why that is, maybe you should look back on our colorful history of the last socially tolerant 50 years. You fucking retard.
I don't think that is >>65724790
the point. The point is black people in America have to be extraordinary, the best of the best, to gain the same type of wealth or lifestyle or respect as a caucasian in some average career.
>Don't try to play the No True Scottsman Defense here.
>in an argument about political spectrums
>spectrums being a vast expanse of several points that represent different ideas
I'm not saying, "That's not what a real liberal would think"
I'm saying, you're a retard for thinking that's what liberals are and that the direct application of Liberal values is something that is purely socially concerned
Stop reading buzzfeed and hatejerking onto the reply box
>Please prove that the system isn't rigged in white's favor. I'm waiting, please.
Take a gander at West Virginia which is overwhelmingly white. Consistently one of the poorest places in the country.
>I think his point is that black people have to be entertainers in order to be successful in America and white people can do anything and be successful
That's not true - look how many young black students are getting into college these days and getting an education. And look how many of them are choosing a career in sports over a career in, say, medicine or engineering. Of course, good for them - being a good athlete can be more enjoyable than being a good doctor or engineer, but nothing is stopping black kids from becoming dentists.
Just like when these young 20-something rappers rap about the next generation going to college and becoming lawyers and doctors, instead of taking the profits they've made from their album and going to college to become those things themselves.
>That's why PC-culture is a DIRECT outgrowth of Liberalism.
Not that guy you're talking to, but that's just not fucking true. You are seemingly just dumb. 'PC-culture' is just a fucking right wing buzzword. So if anything it was invented by fucking subversive self proclaimed conservatives like you
/tv/ has truly gone to shit. This is how I know /tv/ isn't /pol/. It's more like /pol/ for 12 year olds. The real /pol/ would laugh at this debacle as socialism eat itself. /tv/ just gets mad because a black person mentions black people.
>Moving the goalposts a bit much, are we?
Your anecdote doesn't disprove how the system is flawed against certain people. Sorry.
>One state out of 50
>Literally 0 blacks
>I'm so good at this
You could try, you know.
>Don't most Africans hate black Americans anyway
Not anymore than the average white person
Africans typically stick to their own kind, as with literally every single demographic ever
Yes, you fucking idiot. Pop entertainment is a luxury. If push came to shove I'd throw Christian Bale and his whole fucking family over the side to make room for a dentist on the last lifeboat.
although malpractice suits are prohibitively expensive which drives up the cost of practicing medicine which drives up the expense to receive medical care or pay your insurance premiums so as always it's lawyers who fucked us all over.
He's literally saying
>dis honkey gets a free spot in muh rich neighbor hewd cuz hes white
>my black ass had to be a entervator and dis honky mofo cleans teef
Chris Rock is such a low IQ nigger that its literally never occurred to him that people can invest their money wisely and end up multiplying their working wages. He can only fathom getting handed a check and either spending it now or spending it later.
Oh okay, so poor black people are evidence of systematic oppression against them but poor white people only even exist "anecdotally".
Cool story friend. If poor whites existing doesn't invalidate the claim that the system of biased in favor of white, doesn't the existence of rich blacks disprove your allegation?
>valuing the social contributions of a dentist above those of two niggers who plays with balls and two niggers who yell for a living is dumb
You also misused the preposition "for"; you meant to use "to", but you're a low-IQ prole. Have fun voting yourself a living later this year, scum.
>'PC-culture' is just a fucking right wing buzzword.
You have a lot of fucking balls to try and make this claim in 2016, when libshit SJW's can literally get a CEO of a multi-million dollar company fired because he donated money to the "wrong" charity.
you tell him! nice username, by the way
>It's not racism, it's prejudice.
OH BOY, THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN
>check out statistics
>blacks are pushed into being poor and uneducated
Who pushes them, anon? The big white conspiracy?
Certainly people are only poor and uneducated because of outside influence completely unrelated to their capacity to make good decisions.
>piece of shit
I'm white, anon. Don't be such a bigot. At least get your slurs correct.
You mean, "in their lives". "Their" is a plural possessive pronoun and requires numeric agreement, but you're likely a negro or American, so consequently not smart enough to understand any of this.
I actually am a doctor, but you probably meant "physician". My doctorate is in economics, which is a smart person science that you have no grasp of and is crucial for human survival, unlike your existence and the existence of most negroes.
But you have to consider that attractiveness is typically a sign of health and obviously medical skill is of value, so why wouldn't they just kick off all of the non-healthy unskilled people?
If you're the person who is in charge of valuing skill versus future growth and promise, why are you so valued over everyone else?
>Please prove that the system isn't rigged in white's favor.
Not how it works you colossal faggot.
You made a claim, and you have failed to prove it.
You don't "prove" negatives. You prove positives. With evidence.
Why am I not surprised an SJW doesn't know how to argue?
Or are things like "logic" and "reason" an invention of the white-man designed to keep you down?
>I actually am a doctor, but I'm not a physician
>economics is a smart person science
>economics is crucial for basic human survival
I've been talking to a retard this entire time
They're two separate things you mouth breather
One is one person being a dick to you, the other is the system being a dick to you. Which would you prefer?
still not trying
No, I'm still correct and still grasping his point. You're wrong and dumb, and evidently some sort of non-white, so that explains everything. We're finished here. I've got a great life to get back to, and you're a basement-bound shitposter, so enjoy that until you commit suicide.
>Black person says something stupid.
>We call that person stupid.
>"OMG WHY ARE YOU SO MAD, /POL/??? XD"
I love this defense.
This is how you know the SJW's in the thread have run out of arguments.
Okay, how about how people of color had to fight for the right to vote? Or how they had to work for affirmative action? Literally needing to make rules so the system treats them fairly. It's not my fault you're an idiot whose only information is from /pol/'s out of date nonsense.
Cosmetic changes effect nothing but your ego, just like your racial views.
Literally no one gets oral cancer unless they're smoking or sucking dicks.
Found the children with meme answers
>Liberals ITT are STILL unable to provide any concise proof that the "system" is "rigged" against non-whites
How hard can it be?
If your views are correct, they should be very easy to prove.
it cost me like $150 because I had dental insurance, isn't there like a 75% chance of them causing health issues after a few years?
My mouth is crowded too so I don't think I got scammed I don't want my teeth anymore fucked up.
That's not true though
The reason that dentist probably has that big house is because he lives in a place where he can charge the people that live there exorbitant amounts of money because he knows what they're willing to pay because they themselves are rich
It's not like dentists of other races are paid less, that particular dentist just either lucked out or went to an amazing dental school to be able to get that kind of position
If he were black and in that position it would be the exact same circumstance
>Hall of Famers, R&B legend, Chris Rock, Dentist
Chris Rock is the oddity in that scenario. What the fuck does he contribute to society? At least the dentist plays a role. Rock should be happy he gets paid for being a face with words.
>They rightfully blame the alcoholic
Actually they blame the circumstances that are around the alcoholic, from genetics to economic status
And then they give the alcoholic the help they need to get back up to societal standards, either with government funded programs, housing, jobs, etc
Even if the alcoholic shows literally no signs of improving
>They're two separate things you mouth breather
And? They're still similar.
Getting kicked in the nuts with a cleat and getting kicked in the nuts with a boot are also different.
That doesn't mean they aren't equally shitty.
Largely 'white flight'
people who were brought up with the idea that other folks aren't people because of their skin color
>And who "pushed" the poor uneducated whites in the lowest class where they are?
Probably the same system that looks down on uneducated idiots. It's just a lot harsher to black people.
>JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE WHITE POOR PEOPLE, THAT MEANS WERE ALL EQUAL
What kind of bubble do you have to live in to think like this? Not even blacklisting people for typing "@" on twitter could shelter someone this much.
>Not him but check out statistics, you piece of shit.
What statistics? Can you please cite them?
I wasn't aware that there were statistics that proved the invisible hand of a vast white conspiracy keeping poor blacks out of dentist-school and engineering-classes.
That sounds pretty important. I'm surprised I haven't heard of them.
I'm not liberal at all but systemic racism is very real by virtue of the fact that system classicism is real. I don't think anyone educated, conservative or liberal disagrees with that. The debate is on how do you deal with it and or whether it's pure classicism, racism, or a mixture of the both. Either way the system is "rigged" against people who are less likely to be exposed to big business culture at a young age. Personally I wouldn't say it's entirely racist because I think any race at the top would do the same. But racism is certainly a byproduct of it.
But getting kicked in the nuts and getting systemically oppressed are two different things, certainly you can see that.
>Being this retarded
What exactly are you doing differently?
>Okay, how about how people of color had to fight for the right to vote?
Please tell me how something that happened more than 50 years ago at this point is now keeping blacks out of college or nice jobs.
>Or how they had to work for affirmative action? Literally needing to make rules so the system treats them fairly.
Holy shit, this delusion. This retard thinks that affirmative action is an example of "fairness".
Are you fresh out of a West Coast high school by any chance?
>it's a /tv/ complains about a black man making an observational joke thread
It's weird, for some reason I assumed that between Chris Rock and memecow, /tv/ would take Rock's side
>keeping poor blacks out of dentist-school and engineering-classes.
That's because it starts way before that.
Also it's not you can easily spiral upwards socially if you grow up in a really bad spot, don't you think?
>There are actual unironic SJW's on /tv/ right now that believe in a massive invisible white conspiracy designed to keep blacks from achieving things.
I legitimately wish it was trolling, but they seem to ACTUALLY believe this shit.
We are ACTUALLY getting an invasion of Tumblrites.
>black kids idolize rappers who idolize criminals who influence rappers who influence black kids who commit crimes and go to jail or join gangs who knock up black chicks and leave them to raise their black kid alone who are later influenced by rappers
Nowhere in the vicious cycle have white people done anything to keep black people down save for throwing a few well deserved faggots in prison.
It's becoming more and more obvious everyday that /tv/ has a lot of misplaced anger towards blacks. It makes sense that a board centered around media would be completely brainwashed by the media.
>inb4 BUT IM NOT LIBERAL SO IM NOT BRAINWASHED
if you think 1 celebrity nigger speaks for all black people, you are definitely brainwashed.
>One is one person being a dick to you, the other is the system being a dick to you.
Last time I checked "racism" wasn't a system. It was any time someone was shitty to you about race.
The blacks in this video don't have an established beating-system in place, but they're still pretty racist.
>slow fourteen year old
Well, she is appealing to her audience then. I want to say she, and by she I mean her PR and production funded team, intentionally penned that letter in a way that would reach her main audience the best, her main audience being teenage girls.
>There are actual unironic SJW's on /tv/ right now that believe in a massive invisible white conspiracy designed to keep blacks from achieving things.
I've read through the thread and I haven't seen this once. Is it possible you are embellishing in an attempt to discredit your opposition?
Really? Never heard that before. My hands and fingers are really big because I'm a lanklet, my coaches in high school and college always tried to get me to play sports but I'm more Urkel than Lebron.
If it's so "common" then why have I and half the thread not heard of it?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof you titanic retard.
Nobody is going to believe your claims of conspiracy without proof. Either provide it or shut up.
>summarizes the entire thread into "I DON'T BELIEVE YOU LALALA"
You haven't presented any proof that your claim is true.
You have to HAVE an argument before your opponent can ignore your argument, dipshit.
>white flight when white people move away
Yeah it was weird to call it that.
>gentrification when they move back
Well when you move into shitty places and make people who were paying 60 dollars for rent start paying 300~500. Yeah that's gentrification. Whites do it to whites too so it's not really racially specific.
You ever heard of the African-American Inequity Theory? It's like in real life, we view success linearly forward.
But outside of black lives, from what would be a white perspective, time wouldn't exist, and from that vantage, could we attain it... we'd see... our ghettos would look flattened, like a tenement block filled with thuggish drug dealers in a superposition of every place it ever occupied. Our sentience just cycling through black twitter in our mothers basement, like Colt .45 in a storm drain.
See, everything outside of black culture... that's normalfags, normalfags looking down on us. Now, to us, it's a way of life, but to them... it's a problematic experience caused by white supremacy.
In real life, where there are no drug dealers and gang members, niggers can't grow. Niggers can't become. Niggers don't change. So LBJ created the Great Society programs to grow the niggers that police would kill, and then they are protested, but into the same system that didn't care about them in the first place, that they've always been born into.
How many times have we had this thread, guys?
Well who knows. When you can't remember your lives before the ghetto, you can't change your lives.
And that is the terrible and the secret fate of Blacks.
You're trapped, by that nightmare you keep waking up into.
And white people put you into that nightmare.
>Actually they blame the circumstances that are around the alcoholic, from genetics to economic status
Yes, nobody ever DECIDES they just like liquor more than being healthy.
They're all victims of circumstance.
>Check out how many white people are poor and how many blacks are. Then check percentages.
How is the fact that a larger percentage of black people being poor evidence of a vast invisible conspiracy by whites to keep them poor?
The only thing it proves is that blacks make more poor financial decisions on average.
This vicious cycle you're looking for is a culture of criminality within the black community that teaches kids it's more important to have the respect of your fuck up gangster friends then it is to be a contributing member of society.
It's perpetuated solely by blacks, white people do not demonize "uncle Toms" and white people do not lionize pieces of shit. Black people are the man keeping black people down. You're right though, it's a vicious cycle.
Not even him, but the funny thing about you is that you read some basic expressions about discussion and now think you learned how to argue. You don't. You don't just stop being uninformed if you browse /pol/ friend, this shit takes effort.
Do you really need google links to see that you need air to live, or that the sky looks blue?
>I and half the thread
Certain that it's split 50/50? Or that you're not trolling, or other posters?
>Blacks have it just the same as whites
meme really needs to end. Sure, maybe youre yuppie friends have it easy, but they'll still have it harder than you. Mostly because of people like you, who are too unwilling to see that society still has a lot of faults to work through.
Whites having the money to afford new housing that was erected out side of large cities after da war is white flight. Typically you don't loop that in for "Blacks being systematically held down", just bumped up America's segregation a bunch. Idk why you're added on where there wasn't any before.
>Spood feed me harder plz
I want the summer to go
>How is white people moving some place better "oppressing" you?
Nigga, I'm white. The fuck you on about?
Literally no one's fault you didn't pay attention in high school history (Or if you've gotten the chance to take it yet.)
>I've read through the thread and I haven't seen this once.
Countless retards ITT are making the unironic claim "Whites rig the system to keep blacks down!".
How is that NOT a massive racially-motivated conspiracy?
>white people moved out of the lower east side in the 70s when crime rates were rising and that's why we murder each other in record highs each year and why I'm in prison instead of raising my children
white flight didn't cause ghettos to be ghettos, they caused them to be a place where a lot of black people lived. They did the rest for themselves.
>Blacks have it just the same as whites meme really needs to end.
It'll end as soon as you can provide irrefutable proof that it's a meme and not just a standard fact, retard.
You've had a 300+ reply thread to prove your case and you STILL haven't proved your case and you refuse to every time you are asked.
>be asked to prove something
Yep, you lost the argument.
Better luck next thread, SJW. Maybe by that time you will have found that mythical statistical proof of a vast white conspiracy that you so crave.
>Winning an online argument
I'm just not wasting my time if you are playing dense/dumb, faggot. Go read up on how blacks were treated in the 50s and 60s. It's not like these things are secretly hidden. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.
>Irish forced into ghettos, and either refused employment or only take the shittiest jobs available for a century.
>Asians forced into ghettos or basically worked as slaves for a century
>Jews forced into ghettos and discriminated against for more than a century
Black people aren't the only people who had it rough but they're the only ones who haven't overcome it
Wow m8 you sound really racist when did I ever call anybody a savage or say they're dumb/aggressive?
Do you really think white people should have been forced to stay there when the crime rates were rising you have the freedom to move wherever you want in this country.
>Go read up on how blacks were treated in the 50s and 60s.
>yfw you realize 65 years ago was ten years ago
How about this dipshit,
Yeah, the game is rigged. But it's not rigged specifically for people with less eumelanin pigmentation. It's rigged for the people who are born into inherited wealth. Families that have owned land since land ownership, outside of royalty, existed. Many of these families are white in countries that were predominately white for the last thousand years. Some of the families are brown or black in other countries, or even in the aforementioned countries due to the nature of the global free market. The percentage of white people who are at an advantage because of inheritance is far less than the percentage of white people who are born into the perpetual omnipresent "peasant" class.
The only difference between the white and black people in North America is that white people can't play the victim card. You'd think this would be a disadvantage, but it turns out that constantly playing the victim card from generation to generation creates a disadvantageous condition in the minds of the supposed victims.
>"Society is rigged to benefit whites at the cost of blacks and keep them down! You can't see it because you're white!"
>"Can you prove this claim?"
>"FUCK YOU, /POL/, NOT MY JOB TO EDUCATE YOU. ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE. I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE ANY OF THE CLAIMS I MAKE. ARE YOU REALLY THIS DUMB?"
Great thread, guys.
>Go read up on how blacks were treated in the 50s and 60s.
I'm quite familiar with how they were treated.
It still has nothing to do with your argument that blacks are prevented from achieving success today by a white collective fueled by racism.
It's not the responsibility of random white people to ensure blacks go to school. Either black people do that or the government does.
And if they didn't want to feel unwanted maybe they shouldn't have jacked up crime to the point where everyone else wanted to leave.
>I have, I'm just not arguing with polemic retards in this thread.
So you ARE using the "I have an argument, but you're too dumb so I won't bother posting it! HA! I win!"-defense.
This is why people don't bother taking you seriously you braying jackass.
At the MOST, the school lost faculty when the whites left to escape rising crime and dropping property values.
Are you going to tell me it the fault of the whites who left that none of these new blacks moving in were qualified to become educators even with numerous openings available?
>It's an SJW's lose an argument and get mad episode.
But oppression is universal. There are many people who have been oppressed in the ways black people have and to even worse extents like the Chinese living through Nanking, the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution.
Except the Chinese overcame all this because they don't belong to a morally bankrupt culture that is wary of intelligence
I don't doubt that the government didn't give a shit, I'm just saying it's not the responsibility of white people moving out of the neighborhood to ensure there's a school and a playground and a fire station left behind when they leave
Keep repeating that buzzword. Nobody except people trying to shit up the argument ITT uses it or is talking about something as plain stupid as that.
It's called a vicious circle, if anything, if you need to have it broken down into a short formula.
Now go fuck yourself
>Nobody except people trying to shit up the argument ITT uses it
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this post that started the whole argument?
>American society is tailored to and benefits white people, so white people have already created a system that stands up for other white people
Sounds pretty much like a CONSPIRACY to me
Most ghettos started out as predominately white neighborhoods. Low income high rises get built, usually at the protestation of the neighborhood because they believe it will lead to property devaluation. Some people leave before the projects are completed. Projects are completed and predominately black people move into them. Over time, property values begin to drop due to increased crime rates, general property damage, and unfavorable aesthetics. More people move out and are replaced, predominately, by black people. Crime rates increase, property values plummet.
So who is to blame here? The previous white tenants who were forced out due to the devaluation of their property? The city council who gave the go ahead for the project, based on a necessity for low income housing for a rising low income population? Or, are the people moving into these areas to blame? The people who come and bring with them problems they don't wish to face, problems they blame other people for.
>American society is tailored to and benefits Jewish people, so Jewish people have already created a system that stands up for other jewish people
>OMG YOU LITERAL NAZI I CANT EVEN
*replaces Jewish with white*
And this is why blacks don't even deserve to succeed.
Well y'know man if you can't laugh you'll cry. It's a funny old world out there. These comedians can remind us that hey it's all a big joke anyway. What is life without laughter? Better of dead, I say. Live, laugh, love and learn. Take the hardships of the world and laugh them off, after all what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. It's a funny old world out there. It's all a big joke anyway. Live, laugh, love and learn, I say.
>HEY GUYS DID YOU KNOW 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB AND THE TOWERS WERE DEMOLISHED BY UNDERGROUND CHARGES?
>"That's just a conspiracy theory"
>NO ITS NOT I NEVER USED THE WORD CONSPIRACY WOW YOU'RE A RETARD
No, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and will just regurgitate stubborn memes rather than engage with any discussion on historical differences beyond "The different things were different in a different way!"
>Cosmetic changes effect nothing but your ego, just like your racial views.
are you saying ego and self esteem are somehow insignificant to a persons "happiness"? are you retarded?
I don't know where you get the racial views thing from either. if I had the racial views of a KKK member I might be hanging niggers which isn't really my idea of "affecting nothing"
not to mention the only one talking about racial views is chris rock, everyone else is just saying how fucking stupid he is
>Somehow claiming that 21st century american society is tailored to the benefit of a single racial group excluding everyone else is not a conspiracy theory.
>A conspiracy theory is an explanatory or speculative hypothesis suggesting that two or more persons or an organization have conspired to cause or to cover up, through secret planning and deliberate action, an event or situation typically regarded as illegal or harmful.
So how is "white people created a system for their benefit that excludes other races" not a conspiracy theory?