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Can we have another shitty hollywood color grading thread? top is original bottom is fixd
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbixTssaadc
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>>65123241
Top looks better and it fits the theme of the film better.

Sorry, but there are uses for blue gradient filter in film.
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>>65123241
stop the grading threads.
it's becoming a meme 2bh.
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>it's another "/tv/ doesn't understand color grading but thinks it does" thread
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The top is better for that scene.
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>>65123348
This, even looking at it gives the impression of coldness
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>>65123315
>looks great with the muted neutral tones
>suddenly orange
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>>65123241

Bad taste
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>>65123241
i wouldn't say top looks bad but the one below looks much more pleasing
that color filtering is pretty much universaly bad for action sequences
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>top
>its cold and dark

>bottom
>comfy

yea its a complete and total mystery why films would use visual cues to indicate things to the audience.
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>>65123456
Have to agree, the bleak colours fits well for me for a dystopian future
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>>65123241
It's been proven light blue and orange are attractive to peoples eyes. Which is why all superhero movies essentially have a blue filter over them with a bright orange sun rise/sun set.
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These shots are always out of context. You need to show the rest of the movie. You'll see that these "overly-filtered" shots are consistent with the rest of the movie.
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>>65123660
>hurr durr its blue that means its cold because everybody knows in real life cold weather = blue filter over everything.
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>>65123666
Also that's why the old ones looks so great
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>>65123456
You realize why they did the heavy orange when you see some of the un-graded scenes where all the digital splicing stands out even more than it already did, looking completely terrible.

Exclusively practical effects (read: the original mad maxes) don't need extensive color grading because, holy shit, shit is actually real and actually in the same place as all the shit on screen, subject to the same lighting, thus it doesn't need a filter to make everything look similar.
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>>65123241
http://www.artapprenticeonline.com/artstudies/learnctr/colortheory/edlearnctrcttemp.html
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>>65123697
Except in batman begins pretty much only the mountain scenes have such a blatant color filter.
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>>65123731
>look outside
>its bright and sunny
>walk outside
>its fucking freezing

>look outside
>its dim and overcast
>I already know its cold so I prepare accordingly

Of course they could just pander to their current demographics and have a little "weather" icon on the screen at all times to tell us that is is, in fact, cold. And make sure the characters check their phones to find out things like "is it cold."
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>>65123731
it's kinda obvious, mr. reddit.

see: >>65123765
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>>65123731
It's supposed to give you a feel.
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>>65123737
Then you know you can color grade those specific things to make them blend in more rather than slapping orange all over everything. In all honesty if you're going to color grade it that much just go balls deep and make the whole movie monochromatic orange.
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Colours are used to empahsise something, like in OP's example, coldness.

The grey washed out one that was in Edge of Tomorrow (an example used in an earlier thread), was to emphasise the lack of hope, and general bleakness of the situation.

A better example of this second example is Saving Private Ryan. It would be odd if they were all looking natural with red rosy cheeks.

Is it the way things work in real life? No, but movies aren't real life, so deal with it.
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No one here has any clue as to how actual professional color grading works.
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>>65123850
That's basically what they did in fury road, though.

Everything is hyper orange because basically everything in a shot came from different lighting source, so instead of trying to match everything, they just went full orange. Mostly because they'd have so many people working on the separate digital effects they needed some sort of per-arranged color grading scheme in order to keep the color grading from just being random.
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>>65123903
tell me
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>>65123899
Not to mention this technique of signaling emotions of feelings through color dates back all the way to the fucking 20s.

Redditors here think this is some new thing.
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>>65123903
Just because you don't, doesn't mean no one else does.
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>>65123765
>blue is a cool color so that means it looks good to smother it in blue because it's a winter scene.
>nevermind the fact that it kills the contrast and makes everyone look like corpses
>I literally just learned what color temperature is but I'm going to link you to it and pretend you don't understand.
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>>65123970
Who does? I haven't seen them here yet.
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Anti color grading fags getting BTFO
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>>65123456
George wanted the movie to look "colorful" to stand out against other post-apocalyptic movies
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>>65123315
i think in this particular case the graded colors add atmosphere to the movie. the people look more dehydrated and tanned from the sun. the orange/blue contrast gives it a nice fata morgana feel.
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>>65123985
>and makes everyone look like corpses
the entire purpose of that scene was they were pushing themselves to the very limits of human endurance, so they should look like walking corpses.
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>>65123941
they didn't though, they made it all orange and teal. Which clash in a really awful-looking way. The only scenes in the movie that were actually monochromatic were the night scenes.
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>>65123241
Top is better desu familee.

Bruce is in a major state of depression and self loathing at the time. The blue color grading reflects that. Also the same reason that the narrows are a gross yellow, green and black to represent the dingy, seedy, underworld there.

It's pottery nigga.
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>>65124011
And looked like shit.
Trying something different doesn't means it's gonna look good.
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>>65124039
>orange and blue
god fucking damnit why do meme gods always force this shit into creation
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ITT: OP gets BTFO
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>>65124041
> to the very limits of human endurance, so they should look like walking corpses.
do you actually think about what you type before you type it?
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>>65124048
>orange and teal. Which clash
So this is an autism thing.

I mean, I should've known before now.
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>>65124055
Yeah I agree, that's why I put quotes around "colorful" because he essentially diluted the entire film to 2 colors with his filtering
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The Grey was edited in a major grey filter to represent hopelessness and the neutrality/indifference of God in regards to their situation.

Autists like OP don't understand the pottery of visual cues....
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>>65124105
No it's not an autism thing it just looks terrible. Do you honesty look at this and not want to gouge your eyes out?
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Color correction is like Jill Bogdanowicz.
I can't tell if she's hot or ugly.
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>>65124067
wat
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Friendly reminder George Miller prefers Fury Road in black and white
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>>65124149
Yeah, compare that to the hundreds of blockbuster shit that have been arbitrarily adding a teal and orange filter to films since the beginning of this century. Color grading has its uses but most of the time it's abused by studio execs as a cheap way to make the films look "good"
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>>65124160
>get called out on autism
>post something more autistic as a response

...
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>>65123690
it becomes less and less attractive when you notice that every fucking movie does it
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>>65124160
Ugh, jeez, orange and blue, unnatural much? Here's the superior natural color version ;)
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>>65124273
you're trying to be sarcastic but I genuinely find this more appealing to look at
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>>65124149
>Real life is neutral tones
>Real life doesn't represent " hopelessness and the neutrality/indifference of God in regards to their situation"
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>>65124048
>reality clashes in a really awful looking way
the entire movie takes place in a fucking desert anon, and if you'll notice, the sky is blue
not really much they could do there
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>>65124273
It does look better, faggot.
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>>65124273
But then you lose the impression of sand all over the place.
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>>65124273
Much more raw and barbaric
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>>65124273
skin looks too yellow
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>>65123241
>It is another, "no one has ever been outside in real life" thread

Blue and Orange apologists get REKT.

http://priceonomics.com/why-every-movie-looks-sort-of-orange-and-blue/
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>its a /tv/ thinks its his movie thread
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>>65123241
top is way better for that scene
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>>65124339
STFU already. All of your greentexts have been retarded as fuck so far.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y6xwZKBwKE&index=1&list=LLm88O3AkH3Xwl1mX5G8WBMA
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>>65123241
Top one is better imo
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>>65123241
top is from the movie
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Here. I modified this still from spartacus to make it look truly cold!
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>>65123241
why would anyone think this is a good idea
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>>65123690
i fucken loved jumper
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both look good, but he blue conveys the tone

I can feel the cold better, Wayne's struggle as he's training

Batman Begins is gr8
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>>65123315
I think it actually worked in this, it created a surreal vibe
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>>65123241
Top is acclaimed director's vision, bottom is /tv/eddit
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>>65124473
little goth bitch can sit on my face.
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>>65124273
The fucking right corner of the screen is painful to look at. Like fucking literally. Too bright.
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>>65124440
Someone lost the temper here
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>>65124477
>actually looks truly cold
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>>65123241
Color grading threads are 2016's minimalist poster threads
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>>65124477
Have you ever thought you might just be retarded?
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>>65123241

Good job PJ.
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DVD EE vs BD EE
Notice the literal blue filter they add in the BD release
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>>65124477
>mfw it worked
You fail every time.
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can we at least agree that this is better than the perverse brown n' bloom extravaganza video games have been through
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>>65124273
I've grown so used to shitty grading that an ungraded version actually looks stylistic
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>>65124666
>Notice the literal blue filter they add in the BD release
Why though ? Looks shit
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>>65124666
More. Can't beleive there's people that have bought and watch the bluray over the DVD
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>>65124572
>text
>thinks he can tell how someone is feeling
You just sound stupid, and i'm trying to convey how stupid you sound. But it's too hard, so i just tell you to shut the fuck up.
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>same scene
>color grading doesn't match

Mann is a hack
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Kingdom of heaven is a good example where the colour filter bums me out. Of course they tried to make the scenes in France more cold looking, but it all felt a bit forced for me.
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>>65124748
didn't this get fixed on later Bluray releases? I've always wondered and never bought it since I haven't heard a definitive answer.
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>>65124748
The filter is too strong.
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>>65124772
You really just seem upset. Hes trying to convey to you how upset you sound.
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>>65124384
this is the best version
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>>65124401
Man, they fucking HATE the colour pink
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>>65124666
>>65124748
is this why its called blu ray?
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>>65124823
I'm not upset, tho.
Trying to say i'm upset is not going to make me upset, i'm sorry for you.
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>>65124666
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>>65123899
OP used a shitty example

A better example would be the green filter plastered all over The Matrix
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>>65124676
>he actually is so pleb he thinks layering everything in Cyan makes it look better.

Even then if you wanted to make things look "cold" you'd fucking use a cooler blue, not Cyan
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>>65124814
No, the original bluray is normal, but the extended editions (which most people buy, for the extra runtime and additional content) are all blue-greenish. DVD EE is normal, however, but nobody watches DVDs it seems
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>>65124883
>tries to prove a point
>fails
>you pleb
Anon, i...
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Is there any good Cosmic Horror TV shows?
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>>65124772
Take it easy, I'm not the one that start cursing when someone have a different opinion from myself over a topic
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Bored as fuck. Post color-graded screenshots and I'll try to bring them back to neutral grading.
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>>65124928
>he likes shitty color filters because in his pea brain he thinks it makes the scene look better.
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>>65124908
I only have the EE on dvd, mainly cos I was too lazy to buy it on blu ray when it finally came out. I probably won't ever now.
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>>65124883
Idiot. Everyone knows red makes things look colder
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>>65124932
Cry harder.
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>>65124942
remove the green filter from some scenes of Matrix 2
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>>65123964
>color used to signal emotion since '20's
>since 1920's
>since monochromatic film
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>>65124908
Thanks for letting me know. I still watch my EE DVDs every winter and refuse to get Bluray unless they fix it. The upconversion when watching on a Bluray player isn't as bad as I feared it would be.
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>>65124971
>he makes shit up to feel better
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>>65125033
Sure thing bro :)
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>>65125071
You know this isn't used used just in films, right?
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>>65125146
do flicks and kino use it too?
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>>65124273
yeah, you just proved that real is better than graded
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>>65125138
Have a good night, anon.
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>>65125038

>original
http://images.contentful.com/7h71s48744nc/601GeVSaDSuuqCYgusqW8o/eea8c8d156b640f75603402d847a8ed0/the-matrix-reloaded.jpg
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>>65125071
They actually used colour filters back then to set a mood

For example the surviving version of the 1910 Frankenstein has the originial filters.

The more you know.
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>>65125038

>org
https://sleeplessthought.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/vlcsnap-2013-05-02-18h24m25s34.png
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>>65124477
yeah - filters are shit tier directors covering their fx mistakes - get that filter off of Kubrick's epicness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>65123315
looks great
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>>65124560
get outside and breath the fresh air, and see what the sun really looks like. twit.
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>>65124786
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>>65125252
jesus christ that looks so much better
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>>65125252
what software are you using?
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>>65123241
while i agree with OP that grading is often misused, in the dark knight series, its used mostly appropriately.

that top shot is perfectly fine.


>>65123737
Fury Road used orange because the original took place in an already orange Austrailia, how ever fury road had to be filmed in the african deserts so everything would have looked like eye straining blaze white and tan.


the orange had little to do with effects (all though new movies remove orange which HURTS the cgi effects) it had more to do with orange being an eye please color. You can stare at orange all day and not hrt your eyes because the sun naturally gives of orange and yellow coloring to nature.

hell look at a forest every now and then, loaded with yellow tints within those greens.
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>>65124857
you sound upset - have a cookie
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>>65125252
A filter is okay sometimes, but they went full retarded this time.
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>>65124067
dude, orange and blue is the most common colors found in nature other than green.
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J.Edgar was dark as fuck
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>>65125434

photoshop. but this can be done with any program where you can manually balance color
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>>65125481
Trying to hide awkward Leo makeup. Nothing salvaged it.
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>>65125146
you know this is /tv/ right?
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>>65125270
Overexposed white triggers me
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>>65125217
so, anon - what mood is this filter s'posed to put me in?
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>>65125571
What's your point?
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>>65124273
yeah that one cherry picked shot, then ook at the rest of the film in a mostly white sand desert trying to stare at a GIANT GOD DAMN LIGHT BULB OF A SCREEN!!!

they made it orange to reflect austrailia and also because the actual desert they filmed in was too damn bright.

>>65124384
>>65124384
well now you're grding it the opposite way, skin has natural oranges and yellows in it.
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>>65125481

Dark and desaturated to the point the colors mesh into each other. Had to amp the fuck out of vibrance (which tells how different X hue is from Y hue), only then I could color-calibrate it a bit. Then bring vibrance back down a bit.
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>>65125270
thank you, anon - that fucking orange hue really bugged the fuck out of me - and i blamed australia and it's shitty outback! While all along it was shitty fucking filters!!! FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD!
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>>65125270
the colro is corrected to a degreebut sicne grading is removal it isnt perfect.

the actual b rolls show that desert looking like a fucking eye killer of a blaze white sand box.
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God, I fucking hate it when today's hollywood blockbusters fuck with the image, why can't they just keep it pure and untouched like they did back in the day? The filmmakers of old would NEVER do something like that!
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>>65125651
Looks worse than the original. Doesn't mean the original looks great, this just looks worse.
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Complaining about color filters is the stupidest thing ever
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The reason why the top one is black and white is because it is in the past.
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HELLO, REDDIT!
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>>65125644

Stills are deceiving. In actual motion you can't have bright colors it will bleed into shit. That's why the Millers original on top is darker yet in motion looks over saturated.
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>>65125693
>I can't tell the difference between a composition and a shitty lazy filter
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>>65125720
Shut the fuck up retard
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>>65125629
you are talking about photo shit that has nothing to do with tv and films - that's me point, m8.
photography is fine - go use that board
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>>65124258
I think it's just that most of the movies that use that color scheme happen to suck, it's a high energy palette that fits well with generic action movies so naturally they're gonna use it the most, so it just looks bad by association more than anything.
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>>65125734
>black and white

you colorblind m8?
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>>65125736
hi!
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>>65124477
look like capeshit garbage now
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>>65125764
Oh right, the classics would never resort to just tinting the whole image, what was I thinking!
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>>65125644
well now you're grding it the opposite way, skin has natural oranges and yellows in it.
yeah but war boys are supposed to be painted white you fucking retard.
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>>65125774
>photography
I never said anything about photography, tard.
Stop making assumptions.
Color techniques are used in every visual medium to convey feeling. They teach this in 4th grade.
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>>65124666
Fuck, this one's real.

I hate you, Satan.
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>>65125862

White balance that pls. Color curves is just a small part of color grading.
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>>65125862
Bottom image looks like garbage.
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>>65125862
Now in Technicolor!
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>>65125861
>yeah but war boys are supposed to be painted white you fucking retard.
white is never 100% pure, paint your skin white and put it under sun light sorrounded by what is suppossed to be orange aussie sand and dirt.

that white is gonna look a bit rust colored.

>>65125862
what >>65125947
said, needs white balancing, but i think the top orange still looks better since its more relaxing on the eye and makes everything looks more rust and post apoc like.
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>>65123731
>WHY ISN'T THIS MOVIE 1000% MORE REAL LIKE LE REDDIT
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>>65123315
I don't usually like extreme color grading but I really liked it in this.
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>>65125862
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>>65126022
on one hand the grading for MOS isnt the best, but on the other hand the bottom looks too off. Supes suit being blue is darker than the rest of everything else so your eye is bouncing every where else.
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>>65126022

Top kek now this is techicolor.
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>>65126022
>>65126124
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>>65126109

Now you are getting there.
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>>65126022
that's pathetic
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Do they color grade this shit out the fucking ass because peoples eyes adjust to it in cinema?
I dont remember half these shots looking that bad when watching them. But put side by side to neutral ones they look awful.
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>>65126109

sky is close

sand is close

red is too weak
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>>65126109
pretty decent anon
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>>65125862
This is why we can't have nice things.
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>>65124786
>can't recognize the greatness of Mann

Get out
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>>65123241
I don't see how this matters at all. On the ice sometimes you'll see things tinted with colours a lot like the one in the top, so this is really a terrible example
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>>65125920
oh, fine, you didna mention 'photography' - but you DID go off-topic. tard.
fuck off back to a board more to your level.
the point of this thread is that your precious color techniques are fucking retarded, pointless, an eye-sore, and used to cover mistakes. all fails.
>muh my art conveys feelings better than real life
>muh love me plebs i learned this shit in 4th grade
if you rely on simplistic color shadings to convey the mood of your art, your art sucks - get better art!
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>>65126343
>yellow filter
>over lens
>give warm color like incandescent bulbs
>makes the blues pop
>in any way comparable to giving the whole movie a strong color tint
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>>65124048
Complementary Colors

Shit doesn't 'clash'
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>>65126343

See, there's a difference between color grading your movie and using different light temperatures on set to achieve something.
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>>65125270

>magenta fire

'corrected' my ass
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Only screens that looks worse with color grading ITT are the LotR ones.
Stop being so retarded.
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>>65123358
/thread
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>>65126109
Needs to be brighter
They're in a desert
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>>65125605
Blue filters were often used to signal to the audience that the scene is that of a sad nature or somber mood.
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>>65126337
>if you rely on simplistic color shadings to convey the mood of your art, your art sucks - get better art!

wish the plebs would get the fuck out
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>>65124048
>Which clash in a really awful-looking way
lol
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>>65126343
why do they have a window in that industrial freezer behind them?
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>>65124883
>top looks like a cheesy film set
>bottom looks like an actual cold environment

Bravo OP
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>>65126424

I was just trying to get rid of the orange tinge 2bh. Let me see if I can find a production photo (to see what it actually looked like in there and color grade trying to match that.
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>>65123794
If you lived anywhere that actually got really cold you'd know that bright and sunny winter days are the coldest opposed to the overcast/snowy ones.
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>>65126442
>I'll use a painting that is old and unrestored as an example!

guess who the real pleb is
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>>65126489
not him but wtf how?
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>>65124477
If you're gonna do a fake hollywood color grade at least do it right.
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>>65126496
in case this isnt bait and you're just retarded: http://painting.about.com/od/oldmastertechniques/a/sfmuato_chiaros.htm
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>>65126466
ever looked at a bright white concrete with light reflecting right in your eyes so hard you had to squint?

that how it looks.
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>>65126337
>photorealism is the purpose of visual art
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>>65126337
It's not off topic, it's important to mention that this is part of art in general.
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/tv/ is now aggressively pleb
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>>65124908
I still have and watch the EE dvds

The housing is seriously ballers, 3 beautiful books with 4 discs of movies and special features plus all the other stuff it came with

Plus the dvd quality is perfect. Yeah, it's not crisp bluray, but it's still good quality while helping mask dated CGI which, honestly, LotR has a fair bit of: mostly greenscreening.
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I have the LotR EE blu ray and I don't remember it being that badly graded.
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>>65126567
clouds insulate the warmth

hope this isnt bait
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>>65124477
>makes it look more cold, oppressive, and helpless

Golly gee these guys sure are fucking retarded.
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colour grading threads are the best kind of shit
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>>65126660
well i dont live anywhere near where it snows you fuckwit dont you ever fucking reply to me again unless your contributing to the thread
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>>65126595
the fuck mate what happened to the image?
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>>65126054
>that white is gonna look a bit rust colored.
no it isn't. sand is not that reflective.
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>>65126616

This was the closest to "real" I could get it.

Lots of artifact because the original screenshot was already kinda crappy.
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>>65126489
this
these clear sunny days during winter are horribly cold. very beautiful with snow, but fucking freezing
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>>65124666
This scene isn't even supposed to be a "cold" scene. The fuck nigga. Going back to the blu-ray to see if this is real.
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>>65126694
lmao take it easy homo
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Color correction is an integral part of filmmaking. These threads are stupid.
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>>65126567
Warm fronts bring in clouds in the first place, clouds actually insulate further, sunlight means jack shit in winter because that's how season tend to work, warmed days bring more humidity as well meaning precipitation like snow, etc. If you get past -15C or so it becomes generally too cold to snow, the air will be too dry.

On days when it's -40C it's guaranteed to have not a cloud in the sky, whereas it'll snow the most it'll be somewhere -10C or warmer.
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>>65125217
>They actually used colour filters back then to set a mood
It wasn't so much to set a mood, but to represent the situation. Blue tint means it's night, since shooting at night was still complicated in those times. Yellow would have been used for day scenes, green for mystery, and red for situations with fire. You only had those basic tints available, since the labs couldn't just tint in dozens of colors according to every filmmakers whim, so there wasn't really that much mood to set.
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>>65126600
>literally describing complex and nuanced use of color shading

lel
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>>65124786
Blackhat is an experimental film. This point may seem obvious, but in many ways this experimentation is at the heart of Mann's attempt to capture his idea of reality primarily through a heightened visual expression and attention to atmospheric detail rather than through only narrative information or psychological verisimilitude.

It seems as if every moment wrestles against the modern viewer’s hunger for narrative clarity and character identification.

But does that mean it’s a bad movie? Or does that mean an audience weaned on information-focused TV shows and movies is trying to force the viewing habits they’re comfortable with onto an experimental movie that challenges them?

It begs a grandiose question: What is cinema?

What are movies? Well, at the most basic level, cinema is audiovisual art. And we should always keep in mind that stories and characters are not the only filmic way to explore the human condition – just the most common.

Film is not about storytelling or character development; these are merely tools, ways for a filmmaker to express his or her vision and ideas, just like visuals, music, setting, dialogue, editing, or any other part of the medium.

A film’s story should not be what we, as viewers, focus on any more than we should only focus on an actor’s performance or a composer’s score. We should focus on the whole package, analyze what that package means and says, examine its components, and und'r-stand it on its own terms.
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>>65126739
>Color correction is an integral part of filmmaking.
So is cinematography, etc, but many still get that wrong. And "correction" is hardly an appropriate word when they go overboard and entirely change the palette, mood, and even realistic lighting in the scene. Your post is stupid.
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>>65126863
wow shut up dude
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>>65126739
Color correction is a tool for filmmaking, and just like any other tool, overusing it can have a negative result.
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>>65126022
try harder.
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>>65126739
next /tv/ is going to be shitting on directors who use wide angle shots or curved lenses. remember, this is cinema not art!
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>>65126343
The supersaturated and hazy colours compliment the 'dreamy' style of the narrative. It's like that for a fucking reason.
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>>65126985
>that contrast

JUST
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>>65124495
UNDERAGE LEAVE
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>>65126700
What is light ?
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Can't we all just get along? at least we talking about televiosn & film for once.

Also stay tunes I'm uploading the whole trailer of this >>65125270 on webm.land
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>>65127032
fixd
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>>65127098
that' s a complicated question. But sand is not so reflective that orange sand will cause someone painted white to look rust-colored.
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>>65123690
>the bottom middle

GRAB ANOTHER BIKE
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>>65126489
This guy is correct
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>>65125454
>A filter is okay sometimes, but they went full retarded this time.
They actually did it for a reason, it was a response to too many people in the audiences unable to recognize which scenes from the first Matrix took place in the real world and which took place in the virtual world. So Wachowskis heavily tinted in-matrix sequences green and real-life sequences blue. It actually has purpose.

They also retroactively added this kind of grading to the first Matrix's late dvd and blu-ray release.
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>>65127112
that actually looks fucking great like technicolor; imagine if they actually went in that direction, a tongue in cheeks 1950's nod to superman, still had viable action but with a 1950's mentality and aesthetics
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>people who think hollywood color timers just slap a colored tint on the picture

Just because it looks like shit half the time doesn't mean they didn't put the work in. You can call hollywood color grading misguided but rarely is it lazy.

You want to see some shit color grading look at mid budget movies and TV shows, they just crush the shit out of the colors to make it look "punchy" and "vibrant" while degrading the overall image quality. Pay attention to the blue tones in most mid budget action flicks and you'll see what I mean, they always crank those blues way the fuck up with no regard for context or blending.
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>>65127112
Looks like 90's.
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i believe its supposed to be more accurate to the original film but that recent dollars trillogy transfer with the overbearing intense yellow filter over everything is gross.
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>>65127144
No, that's why he said "A BIT" rust colored, to mean it tends more to reflect the orange than the pink of the skin
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>>65126851
every criticism you have of color grading still applies. its a stylistic choice to only use certain colors and omit ones that break up the unity.. the goal is not to be realistic, it is to unite figures in the foreground with the background so they are not self-sufficient entities. you are crying like a baby because these images are not realistic. and what's not complex or nuanced about film color grading? there are endless possibilities.
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>>65127146
>still using unrestored paintings as an example

top fucking kek

http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/restored-turner-painting-back-spotlight-6446002
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>>65124666
But this is not in the theatrical edition blu-ray right? Cause that is the only version I like.
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>>65123690
Still sucks that movies look so fuckin uniform these days. Seriously – how many "mainstreamish" directors are there that actually have the balls to have a movie look "different" in that they just choose their own color scheme. Christopher Nolan might be one. Otherwise I can only think of people like wes Anderson in that regard and he's "arthousy".
But heck, blue-and-orange and turquoise-and-ochre have become so fuckin boring in the last ten years or so.
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>>65127393
You know why this board is so shit ? Not only because of the 'tards which you answer, but because peoples like you respond to other 'tards even when it is clear that they have no idea what they are talking and arent willing to know their wrongs, they don't contribute to anything in a conversation, and then they are the only who responds to well construct criticism
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>>65123315
This is great, why did you post it?
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>>65123241
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>>65127146
>>65127492
>turner used a piss filter

lel
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>>65127492
not me, but it's our current common perception of how those works of art should be regardless of their original look. we also prefer greek statues to be colorless, if somebody restored them to their original colors we would think they look like awful kitsch.
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>>65127516
>orange and blue is a pleasing combination that has been used in art forever
>WHY DO MODERN MOVIES USE THIS LAZY COMBINATION REEEEEEEE
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>>65127556
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>>65127540
i don't care about the board, i just like to argue
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>mexico scene
>sepia filter
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>>65127659
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>>65127540
Welcome to /v/eddit, we've entirely inherited their board culture and their disgust of ENBs and post-processing effects for "pure video game graphics".
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>>65123241
Top is WAY more fitting for the setting and tone of the scene. Why do people always autistically white balance good uses of color grading?
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>>65127556

>third frame

i guess color grading also helps mask shit greenscreen
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>>65127717
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>>65123315
>>65124273
It looks like the game, and the game looks much better than Fury Road
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>>65127492
On what do you think they base their colors ? On randomness ? Or maybe the pigments in the paint are an actual indicator of the original color. Or maybe there is still large shades of blue and orange in the "restored" picture. In this thread people have also used old movies as indicator of color use to convey emotions on image, except saying they are old pictures, you don't add anything to the lot, neither do you explain why a restoration of color in your mind equal to a differents use of theme..
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>>65127658

More like why do so many movies use this across the entire film?
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>>65127556
>>65127659
>>65127717
>>65127773
I want to watch this version

torrent where?
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>>65123241
I watch everything with an orange filter. Makes movies better imo.
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So how are people de-filtering pictures?
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>>65127817

Old paintings were very rarely the kind of washed orange like you are trying to make them out.

You keep using unrestored paintings that just show strong yellowing from aging.

If you look at properly restored paintings you'll see that typically accurate and nuanced color was striven for, in part because this showed painter skill
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>>65124748
>>65124666
For me the main problem is you can actually see the sky here. Seeing that it's a clear day undermines the blue filter. When you can't see the sky I think it works, though. Makes it feel like a very cloudy day, even like a storm is rolling in.
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>>65127146
Do that to some Bierstadt
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>>65128081
>implying that isn't realistic

lol
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>>65126595
this guy's pooter exploded as he uploaded the image apparently.
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>>65125032
my nipples just got harder looking at that bottom pic.

red is cold!!
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>>65128081
What a shitty filter.
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>>65127658
>not getting the point

It's not about a natural, pleasing combination of colors. Sure, if you go around town aorund christmastime, in a cold winter night you will actually get an all-natural blue-and-orange theme.
But
a) Not every movie needs to look like Christmas
b) Not every movie needs to look the fuckin same for that matter
c) Movies as an art form MAY actually employ color schemes to convey atmosphere and emotion. Emotion apart from "oh look at them pwetty colors"
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>>65128081
REALISM
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>>65123241
Pic related, I'm pretty sure since miller wanted to do it in black and white but he wasn't allowed to, it was a big fuck you
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>>65128210
excellent
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>>65128233
Apparently the b+w is on the bluray, but I don't have it to confirm.
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>old paintings used orange filters

lamo
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>>65128233

>perfect reviews and everyone likes how it looks

yeah, clearly a "big fuck you."
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>>65128233
>>65128258

Nigga just set in on your TV. Like push the contrast button down.
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>>65125651
You sound like one of those crime drama tv shows talking about enhancing images. You can't uncrush the blacks once you've crushed them. The original is too dark and graded that by your "correcting process" you introduced fucked up splotches of tones in Leo's jacket and added a slight magenta to the low-lights. I still don't see the point of these threads. Things can't always be unfucked and even if you do get a scene just how you'd like it what are you going to do with that? Are you going to apply this to an entire film, scene by scene, and upload it somewhere. What is your endgame, OP?
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>>65127924
Anon, I'm so sorry...
>>65128011
In my case, all I needed was to play with the RGB curves in Paint.net until I liked what I saw.
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>>65127755
That's not a secret. Masking special effects has been one of the primary implications of digital color grading from the get-go.
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>>65128336
OP thinks his vision is better than that of pros,and he wants to be recognised.
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>>65128011
messing with colors in photoshop.
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>>65127315
>They also retroactively added this kind of grading to the first Matrix's late dvd and blu-ray release.
I fucking thought so, I was worried I was going crazy at first.
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>>65124666
>Colorgrading fags will literally defend this
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>>65128164
See >>65126696
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>>65125032
Like I get and agree that sometimes filters make something look worse than what it originally is through a camera lens but OPs picture and >>65124160
are good calls on when having a slight colored filter works
The Mad Max one gives an impression that appeals sandier as if the sun is being reflected off the orangish sand color. Not only that, it makes him look like he's covered in dust, a bit

>>65124473
>>65124666
>>65124748
>>65124908
These are just disgusting
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>>65128279

Yeah it's called centuries of dirt and grime and grease
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Orange is just an ugly color desu, yellow too. They are the shittiest colors and nothing that is orange or yellow looks good.
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>>65128626
Back to /pol/.
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>>65128626
I'm orange and I look good
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>>65124666
>>65124748

I'm actually really thankful that the EE DVD release is mastered so well. The LOTR EE is one of the few DVD sets I own that hold up really well even when viewed on a HD screen.
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>>65128687
fuck off Maz.
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>>65125270
>He thinks overexposed white is visually appealing.
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>>65128718
Case in point:
Above you see an (upscaled) DVD screengrab, below there's the same shot from the BD.
Now, apart from the occasional color banding in dark scenes (which also happens on the BD in some places, mind you!) I'd say that it still holds up pretty darn well.
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>>65129009

It should be fairly easy to take the dvd version and make a lut for color correcting each scene in the bd release.

Time consuming though
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>>65128279
>the clouds and the halo are totally fucked up in the restored pic
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>>65129060
i'm honestly surprised it hasn't already been done
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>>65129315
>surprised
Who the fuck says that? Back to reddit you go.
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>>65127970
you absolute fucking moron
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>>65125651
But does it fit the tone of the movie? Does it need that extra vibrance and intensity? The film is about the FBI, courtooms, beaurocracy, espionage, it works with the more muted, even palette they've employed.

Thay's the first question you need to ask when you grade an image, not whether it looks natural, not whether it looks "good", but whether it helps communicate the tone of the story, the setting and the events taking place in the scene.

Speaking of DiCaprio I just watched The Aviator and that's a good (if sloppy) example of shifting color palletes (not just in set design, there is really obvious and deliberate grading all over the place) to ellicit different moods and messages.

Dark reds and light blues for the airplane construction scenes ellicit a very upbeat, "retro american" vibe to reflect that Hughes is full of energy and in his element. Sickly greens and yellows are used to show his distress and discomfort. Reds have sort of a double edge of danger and passion to them, blues in particular always signify progress and positivity, even when they stand out against otherwise dark and dreary scenes.

Yeah, some of it is set/costume/lighting design but a lot of it is straight up grading (grading pushed a little too far in some cases if I'm being honest, but it gets the job done), and it wasn't just used to make the movie look "good", it was used to enhance the stodeep.

It's not even the really subtle stuff they do nowadays, like dropping highlights down just a bit to make a scene a little gloomier, or isolating someone's face and making it more vibrant and red to make them more empathetic, or highlighting a specific part of a frame to draw your eye (which is done a fucking lot) there's little things like that all over the place in movies now.
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>>65125862
Madmax was done intentionally like this.
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>>65126458
thats kubricks apartment
no lie
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>>65128626
Funfact: Women are statistically most likely to hate the color orange.
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I wonder if he got to keep the panties Kidman used
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>>65126399
>hurr durr i don't know shit about color theory.

look at that chart for yourself dipshit. the complement of orange is deep blue, not teal.
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>>65127970
is it bad that I still prefer the one of the left with the filter
I hate to admit it but that house shot looks so much better with the bluish hue.
I agree it does not look as good on the people
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>>65125270

Full trailer

https://vid me/e/YHGb

add a dot to "vid"
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>>65130246

Original for comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJnMQG9ev8
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>>65126109
Are you actually working with curves or just turning Hue and Saturation for individual colours up and down?

That being said, Colour correction Fury Road just makes it seem like a documentary on the average day in the Australian outback and its inhabitants
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>>65124666
Well actually it depends what type of blu ray version you buy. There are currently 2 versions, the normal blu ray and the blu ray with digital version
The normal blu ray is already gone but doesn't have the blue tint
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Did I do good? :^)
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>complaining about how everything is dark and blue tinted
>"fixing" it is by making everything yellow piss tinted

are all of you people mentally challenged retards?
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>>65130246

Fucking awful compression fuck this site. I should try webm.land after all
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>>65130381
Both of you are terrible at this.
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>>65130583
This is the best I could do, I almost got it as good as yours, But I dont get how to get those trumpets as non-orange as you do
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>>65130988
>almost got it as good as yours
Lmao, did you even look at your picture before posting it?
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>>65123241
Mad Max: Fury Road Warrior
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>>65131105
You realize it's not the exact same frame, right?
That's just how the flame looks in the movie.
I work with a lower-resolution video and tried to get A: the sky a bit bluer, B: The cars more apparent, especially in the distance, C: the yellow-ness out of the frame.
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>>65131201
Lawrence of Australia.
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>>65130988
I think yours is better desu.
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>>65130381

Just moving sliders. These ones specifically.
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>>65131280
for color grading selective color is your best friend.
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>>65125605
Considering Frankenstein is a tragedy about a shambling corpse, a sad and cold feeling?
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>>65131329
Are you homo?
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