Where were you when you realized that Inglorious Basterds is Tarantino's best movie hands down?
Me, I was leaving a theater in New Orleans in 2009 after just seeing it.
>Not knowing kill bill 1&2 are one film
how was it anti-nazi propaganda
almost all the nazis were decent, likable human beings
even the one actually evil nazi was likable in his own right
the jews on the other hand were bloodthirsty savages who literally scalped soldiers
>anti nazi propaganda
As if you could make something like that, what does that even mean?
honestly it's fun to try and see the worth in all his films and argue about all his later ones have merit and interesting things to say or what the fuck ever, but the truth is that his first two were fucking great and nothing he's ever done since will be half as good
like everything else is OK and it all does have some worth and is full of ideas (although all stolen (homaged)) and passion and what have you, but nothing since reservoir dogs and pulp fiction has flowed naturally and seemed so 'right' and they all feel kinda formless and overdrawn, like he already used up everything good he had to say
>not sympathizing with the jews during the time of the Nazi empire
what is wrong with you people?
it doesnt matter who people sympathize with
the message is clear - the jews looking for brutal retribution against simple soldiers who care nothing for hitlers politics are the same savages as the nazis they hate so much
at its very core its just another "war is bad" movie
Honestly I have a big problem with hollywood jews, but if you didn't think that the american heading a team of jews were the good guys in this, you're trying way too hard to be a storm faggot or whatever the damn site is.
>the opening scene at the dairy farm is absolutely stellar
that was the only thing amazing about it
Brad Pitt had some a funny scene when he was struggling with Italian.
the scalping scene was dumb.
Waltz was amazing though
not that anon
they kinda are the good guys, but they aren't without fault
they are better than the nazis, sure, but killing Wehrmacht soldiers with baseball bats isn't really that honorable..
that's why it is one of Tarantino's best movies, it's ambivalent and it creates an interesting parallel between the Nazi propaganda movie within the movie and the movie the audience watches.
many people blindly cheer for the Basterds, but they aren't the morally pure characters you would assume they are
just my opinion
You're an idiot. The Basterds are portrayed as barbarians.
Tarantino goes out of his way to humanise every single nazi character.
Then he pokes fun at his own audience for celebrating nazi deaths with the theatre scene.
This wasn't really hard to infer.
>The Basterds are portrayed as barbarians
They're portrayed as light hearted killers I would say
they're funny and fight the bad guys.
Tarantino failed horribly
Remember the gruesome scene in Reservoir dogs where the dude gets his ear bitten off? I cringed when I first saw that.
Now remember the scalping scene. boring.
Had Tarantino at least succeeded in making the violence somewhat realistic and gross, this film might've worked out for him.
>Tarantino failed horribly
>Remember the gruesome scene in Reservoir dogs where the dude gets his ear bitten off? I cringed when I first saw that.
You don't see anything and it's not bitten off.
Pulp Fiction > Django Unchained > Inglorious Bastards > Kill Bill > Hateful Eight > Reservoir Dogs > Jackie Brown > AIDS > Death proof
lmfao @ these contrarians saying death proof and jackie brown are remotely good
>germans are portrayed as noble and humane
>jews are one dimensional monsters
You did not understand the movie
Fuck off. Kill Bill was shit. And Hateful 8 was worse than Django.
Jackie Brown is a really well made movie. And Ordell is probably the best character Sam Jackson has ever played and one of the best QT characters ever written. Bridget Fond is also hot as fuck in the movie.
Aside from that, it's pretty mediocre.
Every nazi is humanised. Only idiots think IB is a cathartic Jewish fantasy.
Tarantino even goes as far as to draw parallels between the Basterds and modern Islamic extremists.
It's always been my favorite and then I started browsing boards like /tv/ and saw everyone rating it towards the bottom usually only above Death Proof.
Looking at it objectively I can understand how people would find the others more well crafted but man Inglourious Basterds is so good I can't help it being my favorite.
I agree. I'd probably go
H8 is the only one I was disappointed by which is surprising because I love westerns. And while Kill Bill is good I feel it's a lot of style over substance so I don't feel right putting it above the others. Haven't seen Jackie and Death Proof.
OK YOU BASTARDS YOU PUSHED ME TO IT
1. Inglorious Basterds
2. Kill Bill and Jackie Brown will KB on top
3. Pulp Fiction
4. Reservoir Dogs
5. Hateful 8
6. Death Proof even though I like it so much.
8. Django Unchained
The theme of the movie is the power of film
>nazis make a propaganda film
The most obvious
>film used as explosive
On the nose
>friedrich tries to woo Shoshanna by discussing german directors
>Fassbender uses Piz Palu as proof he is German
Film as national identity
>hitler shot in a theater
Film / propaganda has the power to change history.
The nazis are not brutal soulless killers (except for Landa who gets his comeuppance)
>you get that for killing jews?
>he gets his head bashed in with a bat
The basterds are more evil than the nazis onscreen. Since we have been taught so much about the war through the media we immediately hate the Germans. The movie is also peppered with film references such as the tavern game, shoshannas face projected onto the smoke like wizard of Oz, the riefenstahl references, etc.
Film is powerful.
>you know somethin Utivich? This might be my masterpiece.
I thought Hateful Eight was his best, mostly because all of the stuff that's usually over the top for Tarantino fits really well within the western genre.
It was like a subtler Tarantino. Tarantino minus 1.
Base to operator, please standby. Dubs incoming.
The movie got progressively worse as it went along.
Colonel Landa and the dairy farmer? Excellent scene.
"You get that for killin' Jews?" "Bravery." It was unintentionally a great scene, but the movie's still going good.
Shosanna being hit on by PFC Zoller? Meh. It picks up a little when Landa re-enters, but doesn't have that same intensity as before.
The tavern scene is another huge jump up in quality and the last really great scene of the movie. Arguably, it was the best part of the whole movie.
Pre-movie scenes are shit again with Pitt, Eli Roth and what's-his-face from the Office getting circles acted around them and looking really out of their depth.
Even Landa gets his weakest scene with the strangling thing. Then whatever weak grasp of historical accuracy is thrown out the window for cartoonish over the top revenge fulfillment fantasy.
And as a final fuck-you to the audience, they emasculate the clever villain right before the credits roll.
All good will built up was eventually washed away by the shit the movie devolved into.
>weak grasp of historical accuracy
Want to know how I know that you're retarded?
>But Death Proof is really bad
It's all a build up to one of the best car chases in recent movie history.
For what it is, it's fucking flawless.
OPERATOR, WHERE ARE THOSE DUBS?!?! CAN'T HOLD OFF THESE REDDITORS FOREVER
Really? Its fine. Entertaining, but schlock. Tarantino makes really pretty schlock. imo, Basterds should have been two different movies. If it was just about the Jew Hunter plot, it may have been one of the best cheeseball character driven thrillers ever.
It's just a ridiculous, glorified cartoon. It's not a "real story" or real movie. Just unmitigated fantasy/cartoon scenes strung together with a thin premise, story, and theme, while clumsily forcing quirky, cool characters, which work well in 1990s LA, into a historical setting that doesn't mesh well.
Most of his post-2000 movies qualify in this vein as well, especially Django.
This movie was shit. It was advertised as being a movie about the basterds, but 90% of it was about random conversations with this woman. It's his shittiest movie, hands down.
>That awkward conversation at the beginning
>That Waltz overacting
>Those unnecessary sub-plots.
>Allow me to say every line the same with the same articulations.
I think it would have worked better as a television series like he originally intended
Django Unchained is awful and only saved by DiCaprio and Jackson. Hateful Eight and Death Proof are okay but nothing special. Kill Bill I've just never got the appeal of.
Unfortunately after his first three films he kind of regressed as a director in many ways, feels like a caricature
He said he intended for them to be one film. He even released a bluray of both of the films combined.
Kill Bill The Whole Bloody affair is one film with minor changes. Kill Bill volumes 1 and 2 are two separate films, by definition. Doesn't matter what you or any other retarded invalids say.
I liked Hateful Eight just a hair more.
Lemme guess, you only like the violent parts, right?
>and failed horribly at what I quoted?
> Anonymous 01/19/16(Tue)20:51:49 No.65081467▶
It's complete shit.
>barely any character development. The only Jews I remember were the Bear Jew and Ryan from the Office.
>insane story in which Hitler goes to France and for some reason doesn't bring his huge army of elite personal guards, thus allowing these dopes to get close enough to do an assassination.
>poor storytelling due to the fact that the girls bomb plot is almost the same as the American's bomb plot. So even if one looks like it's failing, there's zero tension because we know there's a "backup bomb".
Tarantino's most overrated shit. People like it because they've watched the History Channel and know that Nazis are bad and Americans are good.
Especially with the scene where the Bear Jew kills the guy withe the baseball bat. It's building up for like almost 3-4 minutes with epic and heroic music and instantly stops when he starts whaling on the guy.
I never saw it completely because 1/3 of the way through my roommate smashed the DVD in half because he said it was "crass and unfair to the German people"
Whatever it was his DVD and I wasn't super impressed with what I did see.
Where does that post talk about the insane use of history? In this film, Hitler traveled to an occupied country with 10 B-squad guards. I know it's a fiction film, and normally I'm tolerant of inaccuracies, but nonsense like that takes me out of the movie. That's like making a movie about a mission to Mars and making mars closer than the moon ("herr der, it's a movie, it doesn't have to be accurate")
And the bomb plot is not subjective. It's bad storytelling. When you have 2 groups of protagonists doing essentially the same plot, it removes all the tension. Even the Bear Jew going on his shooting spree was redundant because the bomb killed everyone anyway. It would have been better if there was 1 bomb, the bomb didn't work out, and then he went on his shooting spree.
>In this film, Hitler traveled to an occupied country with 10 B-squad guards. I know it's a fiction film, and normally I'm tolerant of inaccuracies, but nonsense like that takes me out of the movie.
Well it's an alternate history. The nazis are way more sympathetic and logistical shit like just how many armed guards Hitler had is a pretty small detail.
and I didnt like how the bombs were handled. Still like the movie though.