Female characters you actually like/are good
This isn't a waifu thread, please give a well thought out reason at least
Dee from Always Sunny because she's the only funny actress alive.
>inb4 it's written for her
Doesn't mean if you gave the same material to another actress it would still be funny. Plus she's funny in interviews.
I hated her character in Sicario (except she was pretty)
I really liked her as Rita in Edge of Tomorrow though
Leeloo Dallas multipass
She's God Tier in Alien
A bit of a Mary Sue in Aliens tho
dont care if shes the easy answer, ripley is a fucking boss
>This isn't a waifu thread, please give a well thought out reason at least
It's hard to like her after she abandoned her brain-damaged friend.
I'm not even going to complain about her cucking Fitz later because even though it fits the same patter of giving up on him after a relatively short time.
>I'm not even going to complain about her cucking Fitz later because even though it fits the same patter of giving up on him after a relatively short time
its attitudes like this that are the reason you will never have a healthy relationship with a woman
Idk. I just really like this character.
Traitor. She's a yank now so I don't like her.
This. People calling her character dumb and stupid is correct. The director makes it clear she has never been dealing with things on a scale this large before. She comes into the assignment looking to make a change/trying to be influential, and leaves the exact opposite way
She was a better Captain than Adama. Knew when to make the really tough calls and didn't hesitate.
>only likes patrician tier films like Sack Lunch
>recognizes The English Patient to be pleb shit
Elaine is GOAT
she fucks up bad in the beginning and gets demoted for it. her friend gambles by trusting ehr pilot skills. she has to deal with a team member who gives her shit. eventually is rewarded by team for her efforts with their trust and friendship. and she has to work hard for it and stumbles, but she pilots a giant robot and manages to actually injure godzilla
unapologetic innocent-killing terrorist who shits on atheists. and id suck her feet
She's a symbol for the U.S. Federal government's general "War on Drugs" and how it's completely ass-backward relative the goals it puts forward.
She's representative of how the U.S. is completely impotent in punishing the leaders or the drug trade through the usual legal proceedings. At best, our courts fuck over the addicts and dumbasses that make up the end-users of the narcotics trade. Of course, no matter how many mandatory sentences you hand out legally, it doesn't make a damn bit of difference to the cartels.
Take solace in the fact that in some universe, she loves you too.
I really like how adorably goofy Lenina Huxley was. I wish I could chill with her. Just seemed to be a fun woman that I'd be comfortable being around.
...yeah waifu basically but I did like her character.
how the fuck am i the first one to post this
i'm kind of glad, that they didn't get the money to do the rest of the trilogy. she's a full blown mary sue there. on the other hand Fincher fixed all the plot issues of the first book, so...
She was super annoying at first though
>Uses trickery, and sharpshooting to fight instead of brute force to overpower men twice her size
>Rape survivor and, while she still has issues from it, still lives her life as best she can
>Leads a band of partisans through personal leadership and charisma
Smart, brave, attractive.
Willingly goes with Muldoon to restore the power and find the children despite the extreme threat posed by the escaped velociraptors.
Manages to keep a cool head and turn the juice back on.
Verbally pimp slaps John Hammond while eating ice cream.
Well-written, well-acted adventure protagonist character in an otherwise terribly written movie. Plus she's a QT-Pa2T
lets try negative and positive examples of a similar role:
>the fat cop from fargo season one was alright imo
>the cop-bitch from true detective season 2 was absolutely annoying and repulsing
>the cop-bitch from true detective season 2 was absolutely annoying and repulsing
I liked Ani
There was nothing believable in Kate, she was inconsistent from the get go and full of bad writing.
Adaline Bowman from "Age of Adaline"
That grace, class, brains and looks <3
How can other women even compete?
Her character should have lasted a few more episodes. She was far more interesting thant Megan (and better looking)
>not a big-name actress so relies entirely on the writing and performance, not reputation
>no cliches aimed at sjw OR /pol/ agendas
>that psychological trauma
>that gradual opening up to Peter
>that grief in season five
>that epic bait-and-switch where everybody thought she was wooden for the first two seasons, then Alt-livia gets introduced and it turns out that was just part of her character all along and shit she really can act
Olivia Dunham is patrician's choice for best girl
Goes without saying.
Easily the best character in the series.
Sicario Emily Blunt
Was the movie actually about a woman's coming of age?
Through starting puberty and then the common trials and tribulations of a young woman.
Her naivety and innocence yet overwhelmed by the desire to be viewed as an important member to the team
Asking the Josh Brolin/Matt Graver what's happening and he doesn't tell her.
This was her losing her virginity.
Meeting the guy at the bar that only had bad intentions and she didn't see them.
Dating the douchebag that hurts her overrall and ruins her trust for men.
Only wanted to help but only wound up being used by men and then thrown away.
This was the final raid scene in the tunnel.
Being raped and then basically told to not tell anyone.
This was when DelToro told her to sign the paper.
The final scene of her signing the paper is resemblance of a man telling her not to tell anyone.
Her pointing the gun at his back and then lowering her gun was symbolic of her realization that she actually liked it.
she isn't a very good actress in this movie, you draw attention to the supporting characters, not her, she is just a filler or some character you are supposed to empathize with, and therefore, isn't a character herself
Don't you have to start your spring semester or have school tomorrow, you faggot.
The way she relents and finally eats the apple strudel.
If you are reluctantly eating something you just nibble at it, and she just fucking DEVOURS it.
I don't know why but that was my favourite scene.
You shouldn't be suprised, the Japs have a solid history of writing great female characters.
Really the entire female cast of Evangelion
Kei from Akira
The list goes on and on.
-Zooey Deschanel because of her fucked up voice, that permanently sounds like her voicebox is broken.
-The woman that plays Olivia Benson on SVU
- Hellen Mirren for still being so fuckable in her 70s (or whatever)
>Edgy Edge Master tier because Adama needed a rival in season 2
She literally murdered one of her officers. Refusing an unlawful order takes balls, she was just a cunt who was written to be baby's first moral dilemma.
>not picking the more aggressive (patrician) redheaded version who is actually a real person and not a mary sue superhero
if you guys need me ill be making thinly disguised waifu threads in the red universe
Top kek, did you even watch the show?
Officer Aeryn Sun is the only correct answer tbhwyf (to be honest wit you family).
oh ok i get it, since she wasn't ALWAYS able to do EVERYTHING herself and occasionally needed help (and because the other characters were actually somewhat useful) she's not a mary sue, even though more often than not she was the key and occasionally she was a superhero, and even before all that her oh so spooky cortexiphan past kept being brought up.
you don't have to throw a perfect game to be a mary sue. being noticeably too good or too important for "reasons" is enough to get you in the conversation, and olivia dunham is a little beyond that level
Did you also forget that part of being a Mary sue is having no real flaws and most if not all people liking you? She's not a Maru Sue m8, stop falling for that meme shit
>often than not she was the key
She was literally the key because of cortexiphan shit.
> being noticeably too good or too important for "reasons"
Too good at what exactly that's not because of cortexiphan? Walter even explained why she was the best cortexiphan subject, something about her home environment being just the right kind of abusive to trigger shit, hence sending her back there when he wanted her to trigger her cross universe shit when she was a kid. Things like the Machine and her deactivating it, again, part of cortexiphan shit and later on revealed that the first people were Walter sending shit back in time to make Peter make a different choice, so of course they'll point to Olivia, since he knows her and she's close to Peter
Tarantino uses food in a lot of his films to associate power. So when she finally relents and eats the strudel she is giving power over to Landa. But she doesn't just nibble, she throws herself into submission with reckless abandon.
It's a fetish thing. Like feet.
My vote is for Bardot in Contempt. The hatred she feels toward her husband feels palpable and authentic.
Very interesting movie. It's like almost all of the component parts where where well done, but the unified whole just didn't work. The protagonist was interesting, the child-actress robot nailed it, George Clooney was good, their chemistry was good, it had the typical above-average direction that Brad Bird brings, all the action sequences where well-done, the world-building was pretty thorough, it looks great... but it just didn't work in the end.
It had parts that were way too tonally dark for the movie it was presenting itself to be, the pacing was frustrating, they didn't get to Tomorrowland fast enough, and as a result the third act wasn't super coherent and the villains were boring, the ending was completely forgettable, it kind of tries to appeal to everyone but ends up pleasing nobody, a lot of things are unexplained or fucking confusing. It's like how did they get A+ effort put into the film when the script story and structure was so half-assed? It's an exceptionally produced, piece of shit story built on a forced premise by Disney to promote a ride or whatever that nobody gives a shit about. It came *this* close to pulling it all together but when it didn't everything kind of fell apart. It's one of the most interesting movies of the year, just as a case study for how you can get so much right in a film and still shit the bed.
uh, ok? sure. not sure where that came from or why
we clearly have slightly different definitions and your argument kind of helps mine as much as it helps yours. let's save each other the trouble and agree to disagree.
can we at least agree that the show was great, at least for 3 seasons.. and had some truly masterpiece episodes?
>agree to disagree
>can we at least agree that the show was great, at least for 3 seasons.. and had some truly masterpiece episodes?
Yes, I really liked season 4 and 5 too though.
>Well-written ... protagonist character
Nah m8, she was literally a Mary Sue, as in the actual nonmemeing definition of one.
Wise, smart beyond her years, so special with just some words that percentage thing dropped from 100%, both Frank and Athena like her and are impressed with her even when they normally disagree with each other, figures out immediately how to use and navigate that future sight thing for no reason besides Frank just saying she knows how shit works even though that hasn't been demonstrated before or why she knows how shit works, and figures out what the machine is doing, just because, and spouts retarded shit about feeding the right wolf.
that stupid cunt ruined the movie for me with those retarded looks to either side before she did or said anything.
seriously who does that?
I lit thought it was a character tick or something or some kind of weird training thing she learned from training but apperently it was just terrible acting...that scene with benicio was just bad and should have been cut,should have cut all her scenes and the film would have been an instant 10/10
>Queen of /tv/.
flavor of the month. actual queen
all of her scenes were shit and her acting like she did not know what was happening even after being very patiently explained to and told exactly why she was there and still that cunt reacts like it is some breaking news and never knew how fucked up the cartels were.
oldfag much? she has been dead for years now.
Susan Ivanova from Babylon 5.
Linda Hamilton as Sarah Conner from T2 was pretty GOAT too.
jesus christ /tv/ I knew you guys were bad but that was beyond whatever I expected from this board.
not really sure who it was but it looked legit CP,probably from dan schneiders private collection
>The list goes on and on.
>I have only watched whatever anime airs on Toonami
this, and also she was the only person who could be considered "good" in the ethical sense
thats why her character was so naive and powerless. the movie is very pessimistic about the whole cartel wars because the only people capable of doing anything are bad ones
you're all fucking plebs for not posting her sooner
>no one posted her yet
i want to be in an abusive relationship with her where she constantly puts her soles on my face
I feel like my reasoning would spoil the enjoyment of this character for others.
Enough with the Mary Sue shit. Anyone that actually understands the source of the Mary Sue trope should fucking understand that it's stupid as fuck to apply it to protagonists, especially in adventure and fantasy genres. ALL fucking protagonists in those genres are essentially Mary Sues. And when everyone is, no one is. Mary Sue is a trope that applies EXPLICITLY to idealized, author-surrogate secondary characters introduced in FAN FICTION to interact with the heroes of the existing fictional universe. Max Landis' (who started the whole Mary Sue hivemind last month) point when he called Rey a Mary Sue was to accuse the movie of being fucking fan faction, first and foremost. Trying to apply the Mary Sue trope to protagonists in original adventure films completely missed the point of the fucking term, and protagonists.
And quit pretending like there's diagnostic criteria and some kind of checklist for the trope. Before the MaRey Sue circlejerk there was absolutely no agree-upon definition. And it's ironic that you say "nonmemeing definition" and then precede to list the traits of the exact fucking meme.
>Wise, smart beyond her years
For one thing, that's up for debate in this movie. But more importantly, protagonists are the protagonists because they are special. They are quite often "wise, smart beyond their years," they're often driven, determined, clever, resourceful, exceptionally nice, have welcoming personalities, and are generally good, idealized people. Frodo had exceptional, extraordinary will-power for no established reason that allowed him to not be fully seduced by the Ring. What a fucking Mary Sue.
>both Frank and Athena like her and are impressed with her even when they normally disagree with each other
Other protagonist characters "liking" the main protagonist doesn't make them a fucking Mary Sue. Hermoine and Ron and literally every character that wasn't a Slytherin liked Harry, Harry was such a fucking Mary Sue.
Japanese are generally sexist in the "WOMEN SHOULDN'T WORK OK ONLY SARARIMAN CAN" department. Whether they can achieve things or be competent is generally not an issue. In all of Japanese media there's a pretty good number of decent female leads.
>post pic of Anna Karina as Marianne in Pierrot le Fou
>post gets deleted
>Refusing to kill innocent people
Not sure about the Colonial Fleet, but the US Military Oath requires you to obey all lawful orders. Pretty sure killing innocent people isn't considered lawful. If the only way Cain could keep Pegasus alive was to throw a bunch of helpless civilians under the bus, she should have gone out guns blazing (ended up going down this way anyways with Lee because he wasn't an edgy cunt and knew it was over). As a Colonial Fleet officer she should hold herself to a higher standard and be willing to sacrifice herself to ensure the safety of others. Cowardly conduct to be honest family.
>She is a mary sue.
That's the fucking point, dipshit. Other protagonists that fit most or all of the /tv/ diagnostic criteria for Mary Sue/Gary Stu:
>Will Turner from Pirates
>Every protagonist in the Lion, Witch, Wardrobe series
>Westley in Princess Bride
>Protagonist in Akira
>John Connor in T2
>crippled asshole in Avatar
>Rose in Titanic
>Dorothy in Oz
>Jennifer Connely in Labyrinth
>Bastian in Neverending Story
>Half the X-men
>Every other animated Disney protagonist
>Will Smiff in MIB
>Will Smiff in Independence Day
>Will Smiff in almost every other Will Smiff movie
>Charlie from Wonka
>Peter's kids in Hook
It is an actual crime that her and Hudson didn't survive to the end.
Good scifi produces good women.
>Vala Mal Doran