Never watched anime but this intrigued me since it won an Oscar.

I've never watched anime and I hate anime but this film is beautiful.

>>65054476
it's comfy so far

Worst Ghibli movie for sure.

/tv/ is really full of plebs.

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>>65054476
someone else has already voiced my opinion but I need to comment anyway because people need to know that I also thought that

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>>65054681
>browsing whilst watching even pleb shit like this

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>>65054435
>all the edgy contrarian tears in this thread

Take it from one of the few people in this thread who has graduated high school: It's a good film.

the train scene is one of the best scenes in cinema to be honest

brings me so much nostalgia and feels

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>>65054435
This isn't really anime. It's more of a piece of art. Most of this director's films are.

I have an IQ of 280 and 3 PhD and this flick is garbage.
Miyazaki's movies are for retarded children.

>>65055495
You're on a website for retarded children.

>>65055418
>interpolating
fuck off with your vomit-inducing faux 48fps webm

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If you want beautiful movies that do deserve every award they've gotten, then anything involving Miyazaki or Satoshi Kon are lovely in both appearance and substance.

Spirited Away, while great, is actually not among my favorites of his.

That would be Princess Mononoke or Naussica. The English dub also always manages to hire a great cast, sometimes surprising people doing main roles, like Gillian Anderson, Patrick Stewart, Christian Bale, Mark Hamill...

Grave of the Fireflies made me cry more than any movie I've ever seen, and I refuse to watch it again.

People who dismiss animation as a medium are ignorant and missing out on a lot of great material. Like any media or art, you have to sludge through mounds and mounds of absolute shit to find the gems. But when you do, they are so worth it.

>>65055495
>I have an IQ of 560 and 6 PhD which makes a movie expert.

>>65055962
>Grave of the Fireflies made me cry more than any movie I've ever seen, and I refuse to watch it again.

Probably the worst Takahata movie and certainly the most tryhard.

>>65054435
it's kind of interesting but kind of retarded also. i didn't understand what was happening most of the time.

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>>65054435
Yes. If you don't like ecchi or moe, anime is pointless. Don't be one of those pretentious fuck wits who only watch ghibli films but still say you 'like anime'. Just fuck off.

>>65056022
>Worst

Still better than Schindler's List as far as trying to get me to feel pity.

>>65056032
well you gotta a least watch with subtitles

>>65056104
One of the things Gibli actually does well is find a good dub English cast.

Except with that one movie recently that hired Daisy Ridley to play the main character. That was just a publicity stunt.

>>65054435
I fucking hate anime and spirited away is the greatest animated movie of all time

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>>65056162
ebin

>>65056217
>anime reaction pic
Your opinion is worthless

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>>65056266

>>65056067
CONGRATULATIONS!

>>65056321
OMEDETOU

>>65055495
>Miyazaki's movies are for retarded children.
for pro pedo scum***

>>65056157
I was kidding, but yeah I agree. I actually really like the french dub for some reason.

This movie scared the fuck out of me as a kid

>>65056660
That's like the Italian dub with Lupin III, it just fits.

Apologies for the autism and not catching sarcasm.

>>65054435
>Will I be wasting my time?
No. Also watch Howl's Moving Castle. They are more Hollywood than anime so it is reliable bet.

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>>65054435
>>65055962
If you wish to feel better about it, just regard Miyazaki's films as not being anime. They are simply animated films, which just so happen to be of the highest quality. They are great family films and easily deserve any awards they've gotten.
>>65056067
>Anime is pointless
ftfy.
Seriously though, moe isn't some casual filter for your weebshit "slice of life" animu's. Its just really, really stupid animation styles that pander to societal turds like yourself. Have fun with your body pillow and the hobby that you can consider "yours". Trust me, no one else wants it from you.

>>65055962
>Grave of the Fireflies made me cry more than any movie I've ever seen, and I refuse to watch it again.
grave of fireflies is literally dogshit. both the kids died because the brother was retarded.

miyazaki films:

dubbed, or subbed?

i'm usually a sub purist, but i saw mononoke dubbed with american actors and found it much more immersive and moving.

Kiki's Delivery Service is the best ghibli movie

End of Evangelion is my favourite anime movie

>>65057320
I wish I had a body pillow, desu. Them nigguhs are comfy.

>>65057320
Kek, look at this pretentious faggot. This is who you don't want to be. You are THE defintion of a fedora tipping retard. Have fun with your 'not anime anime'. People like you never fail to make me laugh, thanks.

>>65057435
Miyazaki movies get treated damn well when dubbed.
Howl's Moving Castle has Christian Bale and Billy Crystal, off the top of my head.

>>65057446
Just get two regular pillows. One for your head and one to hump.

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>>65057513
I'm confused. Are you shoved so far up your own rectum that you believe people who DON'T watch moeshit are the fedoras? You realize you're the laughing-stock of not only the internet, but probably your family and friends as well, right? Tell me about your plan to move to Japan, the superior culture, where everyone watches only moeshit anime and waifubait harems. They'll totally be accepting of yet another NEET piece of human garbage like yourself!

>>65057613
That's what I do. One big pillow would feel better.

>>65057661
>One big pillow would feel better.
I wish I could find that picture of the centaur body pillow.

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>>65057654
Watch your cholesterol, angry anon. You understand moe and ecchi is a guilty pleasure for everyone, right? I am not pretending it's some huge piece of art, like you do with your ghibli trash. You should get a new fedora, yours seems a little worn.

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Yes. Entire back third of the film is crap, even a preponderance of weebs agree.
Pic related is probably the studios most balanced film I'd suggest you try it first.

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this entire thread is full of hypocrisy you cant enjoy this movie and then call anime trash

>>65055962
>Naussica

This movie has little to no substance, both its cliche characters and unimaginative imagery, which is increasingly directly spelled out for you by dull exposition as if you were a 6 year old child.

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>>65057744
You literally started with "if you don't like ecchi or moe, anime is pointless". Now it's a guilty pleasure, for everyone. Which is it, backpedal-anon?

>>65057930
What? You understand what a guilty pleasure means, right?

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>>65056067
>If you don't like ecchi or moe, anime is pointless
dude I like anime but that stuff is always terrible

>>65058031
Moe is in all anime. Re-tard. It's even in OP's picture.

>>65054681

Yep.

Sure is a comfy movie.

Ending turned really slow though.

>>65056485
As is all anime ayy

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>>65057973
It certainly doesn't mean that one shitty subgenre is necessary to enjoy an entire medium. Do you know what guilty pleasure means?
>>65058059
I think you need to refine your definition of moeshit. Because I rarely see the bug-eyed waifu-bait in animes with halfway decent animation.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)

>>65058059
When people refer to an anime as "moe" it's typically because of the 12 yr old girls with giant eyes in a schoolgirl outfit that would look more appropriate in a porn.

Nonsensical and noncohesive. It was fun, but is highly overrated. Princess Mononoke is much better

>>65058098
Miyazaki is the Jimmy Savile of japan

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Stick with ya boy Oshii, Avalon was the shit.

http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/interviews/oshii_on_mt.html

>>65058295
Is that supposed to mean that he's a prolific media personality?
or the Diddler

>>65058215
Kek.
>however, thinking too heavily about it is considered outside the scope

Those little animals, they are moe. You're a fucking retard you can't even identify moe characteristics inside of anime.
>actually thinking this much about anime and not just enjoying it for what it is.

Fuck man, I actually feel sorry for you. No one cares that you like ghibli, as soon as you mention anything to do with anime the end result is always the same. You're simply pretentious. You severly missunderstand what anime is. It's literally a genre which only exists to sell more manga or toys of any given series. It is commercialism incarnate.

I'm done with you though, ignorance is bliss and it's been fun to see you attempt to jusitfy your interests.

>>65054435
The train sequence is one of my favourites

>>65058370
The answer is both. It'll be out by 2020

>>65054435
This was my first exposure to anime when it released and I loved every minute of it, probably seen it 4-5 times.

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>>65054435
Watch Porco Rosso next.

Both are easily Miazaki's best. Spirited Away is for little girls, and Porco Rosso is for adult men.

>>65058334
>trusting the opinions of a man literally not allowed to make anime anymore
And I mean literally. He wants to do more but no one in Japan will give him money.

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>>65058398
I've enjoyed plenty of anime with zero moe.

Mushi-shi, Ghost in the Shell, Death Parade, Parasyte.

Fuck, even mainstream mediocre stuff like Attack on Titan does not have moe.

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Spirited Away is a decent film that boarders the "anime" trend but maintains its dignity. Jin- Roh is one of the best japanese animated movies that is totally disconnected from the anime meme. (yes anime as a fad is a meme; as in mimetic)

>>65058458
Miazaki dislikes Porco Rosso because it isn't a kids movie.
Porco Rosso is my favorite because it isn't a kids movie.

>>65058565
>mainstream mediocre stuff like Attack on Titan

bitch did you know of AOT before the series ? No.

>>65058585
Jin-Roh is the best feature length animated film from Japan.

>>65058473
He needs to do more live action anyway. I think he's too lazy to direct people though.

>/v/eddit is at it again

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>>65058565
That's literally all got moe. Think of it like this, moe is just something which is cute, which stands out. MC from Mushi-shi has a moe haircut, GiTs girl's clothing is moe, pic related, is moe. The parasytes are moe. There is noe 'moe' anime, there can be alot of moe in an anime but it's not a thing which defines a series. It's simply in everything, even Pscyo Pass, an anime which tried to avoid moe, has moe.

>>65058398
I think you need to come down off that wonderful anime-critiquing high horse you're on there, friend. You seem to believe you are in a position to make a very broad generalization of an entire genre and have it accepted as fact. Nonetheless, you're already wrong about what moe is. Seeing as how you are not supposed to feel emotional or sexual attraction to the animals, it is not moe. If you do, being a weeaboo is the least of your problems.

>>65058661
what does /v/ have to do with anime?

>>65058598
>because it isn't a kids movie

Why is it as mature as most of his other movies then? There is literally nothing interesting going on in this movie.

Porco Rosso is patrician.

>>65058702
They're the ones that make these threads

>>65058721
Came here to say this.

>>65058666
By your logic, every single piece of film, animated or not, would have moe in it. You are simply equating moe with sexuality, and you are wrong.

>>65058721
>"""patrician"""

what are you top 10 films of all time?

>>65058723
what makes you think that?

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>>65058666
Satan, please explain moe to us. We wish to bask in the hate.

>>65058737
Well yes, you could. Sex sells. Moe sells. Simply different cultures, bro.

>>65058769

Being here since 2009 and seeing the increase of this garbage being spammed here whilst cross posting increases as well.

>>65058334
>says Porco is worst Miya film
Wonder how he feels about Mononoke

>>65058715
>To my mind, animation is for children. Porco Rosso flies in the fact of that assumption. Morever, as a producer I still think Porco Rosso is too idiosyncratic a film for a toddlers-to-old-folks general audience. That it turned out to be a hit was an unexpected stroke of luck. It's actually kind of disturbing.
Miyazaki find's your inability to grasp the film disturbing.

>>65058666
I can forgive the use of moe style as long as its not the focus of the material (such as the irredeemable garbage RomComs and SoL /a/ obsesses over).

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>>65058666
So do you have such a conniption if anything resembling cute just shows up in a movie for a brief instant? Teddy bears are never allowed to be in the scene of anything you watch? You are getting triggered.

>Motoko being moe in the movie
Sure, whatever you say.
>Ginko's haircut is moe
The fuck does this mean? The white? It has to do with the setting and his background.
>Parasytes are moe
What the fuck is your definition of cute? Pic related

>>65058863
>Being here since 2009 and seeing the increase of this garbage being spammed here whilst cross posting increases as well.

ok but how is that /v/ related?

>>65058891
You know the only reason /a/ seems to 'obsess' over SoL and romcoms is because that's the only thing coming out of Japan at this moment? It's the same as capeshit and /tv/ or Star Wars and /tv/. Boards talk about what is current.

>>65058933
Sure, thats the only reason.

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>>65058933

>>65058642
I began reading the manga when chapter 3 came out, and that was years ago.

>>65058882

It's unbelievably boring and shallow, the characters, their conflicts, its world, and its imagery. I'd rather watch paint dry.

>>65058933
There is a reason why moeshit anime is the only thing coming out of Japan right now, because most of the anime fanbase these days are moeshit faggots who don't like to watch anything of value.

>>65058926

See >>65058863

They spam anime threads here because /a/ makes them insecure and the whole "i can't bring anything new to the table and they only watch moeshiet;__;" stuff.

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>>65058908
>What the fuck is your definition of cute? Pic related
Do you have any understanding about Japan and their love of 'ugly cute' things?

>ginko
pic related. Hair styles like this literally has a term. http://animanga.wikia.com/wiki/Ahoge

>motoko
I didn't say anything about her, except her outfit, which is moe.

>>65059031
And that's Japan, not /a/.

>>65059062
that doesn't explain anything its not like you have any proof

>>65058993
That it's dealing with adult themes at all makes it different from his other films.
I find his grandiose ramblings on environmentalism or traditionalism to border on childish ecofascism, when Porco Rosso is for once a personal film from him.

>>65059101
You are very wrong, /a/ also loves that shit.

>>65059163
Just like /tv/ loves capeshit and star wars, right? But not you?

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>>65059113

Host the backup for /v/ and /tv/ from .moe and I'll show you

>>65055962
I liked Grave of the Fireflies a lot, but in terms of WWII films I though Barefoot Gen did a better job at getting at the core of the conflict.

Chronicling the bombing of Hiroshima through the eyes of one decent loving family was devastating. As a whole it works better as an indictment of the war and war in general, and as a result has greater sticking power.

>>65058702
because they get rejected by /a/ for watching entry level shit, so they come here

>>65059182
There's a reason many /tv/ regulars are begging Hiroyuki to create new boards to quarantine all the capeshit/starcucks that pervades this website.

I recall /a/ had something similar happen when Madoka aired originally aired (and the year that followed). You have only to look through the current /a/ catalog to see how destitute that board has become. It's not too late to save /tv/.

Whispers of the Heart is the best ghibli film

prove me wrong

>>65059143
>dealing with adult themes

This in itself does not make the work mature, which was my actual question. Typical markings of a Miyazaki film are all there in the same coating.

>>65057788
Why not?

>>65059338
It absolutely makes the work more mature there's no other barometer for maturity but for subject matter. Whether you think it succeeds as an entertaining film is another thing entirely.
>Typical markings of a Miyazaki film are all there in the same coating.
In that what, it's animated?

>>65057435
Subbed.

The dubs aren't always good. For example, Chloe was pretty flat in Princess Kaguya. Marnie was pretty shit in english I thought. Howl's Moving Castle had an amazing dub though.

>>65058473
That doesn't mean much, though; one of the best series of the entire 00s was a big-budget dream project of one of the best animators in the business and it was fantastic but sold like ass so he's back to being a waiter.

>>65058666
Right, but because of stupid people on /v/ "moe" on pretty much any non-anime board has come to mean anything along the lines of "Uguu".

>>65058585
Jin-Roh has a horrible 2bd act thought and the voice of the girl is just irritating at some points

>>65056073
True, but it isn't the "srs anime for srs adults like ourselves" masterpiece it's made out to be.

>>65056157
Disney does the most of Ghilbis dubs. When Disney doesn't, then whoever licensed it finds the studio and actors to dub it.

>>65057435
It really depends on the film.

Laputa is one where, controversially, I prefer the dub, and because of the changes.

Spirited Away's, on the other hand, fucks up way too much shit and makes the plot several times more confusing for no reason. It absolutely must be seen subbed (though dubbed Yubaba is still done well).

Cat Return's dub is a straight up writeoff. Burn it.

>>65057435
Porco Rosso should only be viewed dubbed.

>>65062234
In French/Italian, right?

>>65060896
I have no idea what this is a reference to.

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Don't mind me just posting greatest animated film of all time.

>>65055418
>>65055609
How does this work? Where do the extra frames come from?

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Tbh, ghibli, like most anime, went to shit after it switched to digital.

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>mfw he hasn't seen the classic

>>65054435
Ghibli is no more an an anime studio than Disney is.

>>65062588
>film can't stand on it's own
>great

>>65062774
That's the weakest criticism for EoE I've ever heard. You can do better than that.

>>65055463
You're running on the assumption that anime can't be art, and by extension, films.

>>65055223
tbqh, almost certainly the most iconic scene in animation and there's barely anything to it, Miyazaki is magic

>>65063223
>the most iconic scene in animation

That would probably the sorcerer’s apprentice or something like that, going by popularity.

>>65059252
>>65057387
Grave Of The Fireflies' main focus isn't as an anti-war film though, see any interview with Takahata where he talks about it. It's a cautionary tale about the danger of pride, yes, the brother is retarded and fucks things up because he wants to spite his aunt.

>>65059143
>>65058882
>implying Porco Rosso is a more adult film than The Wind Rises
what the fuck, honestly

>>65054718

Not saying what he thinks is the best ghibli film, in fear of being judged

>>65057773
>muh three-act structure
it's a denouemont, have you never seen a film paced in a classical manner before?

>>65063332
Wind Rises was originally going to be Porco Rosso 2 (about the Spanish Civil War), after Arrietty. It grew directly out of our red pig. I think they're much the same, and Myizaki consenting to make it represents a sea change, in that he's willing to have a sock puppet version of him on screen again.

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>>65064634
>yfw both Miazaki and Yonebayashi are both probably actually retired for good this time
>yfw The Last Sortie will never be made

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>Anime

>>65054718
Still better than most of the shit discussed on /tv/

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>>65054476
>I've never watched anime and I hate anime

No, I also don't usually watch anime either but this movie really hit me. Also check out My Neighbor Totoro if you can.

>>65054718

That's a retarded claim and you know it. Howl's, Ponyo, Earthsea are all consideribly weaker than Spirited Away.

>>65064905
Where do you live?

>>65064940
Thats an odd question. Why?

>>65054435
Ghibli films are about the only anime worth anything.

>>65063334
Not the guy, but for me it's Mononoke and Nausicaa.
Judge me now.

Hate weeboos and animeshit but this is good. But even I know Porco Rosso is the best Ghibli film