>>65039876 Colonialism creates a "they're savages, we need to civilise them (oppress and kill) and take their stuff" mindset. When you dehumanise people, as the English did to us, you can do anything and it will be justified.
Catholicism and repeated Irish attempts to get rid of the English/being 'stubborn' in the face of colonialism only increased the hatred.
>>65040427 >mfw Protestant women get a divorce and an abortion in the space of one day, then get drunk from a single can of beer and have their only child raised by a Filipino maid while they work a 20 hour shift
>>65040946 >be protestant boy >have no siblings >daddy "has to go away for a while, but you can see him on weekends" >can't graduate school because the teachers are shit >never, ever get laid >spend all your free time attending cake sales in the car park of your dilapidated church >get throat cancer from the car exhausts >die in the hospital because your doctor is an Indian
>>65038951 It's a good movie but it does portray the Irish in a dishonest light to a certain degree. Theres a certain 'we can do no wrong because we're the victims' vibe to it. Thats not entirely true to life, but it's not too far off.
I'm from Ireland by the way before I get called an English cuck
>>65040882 I dunno man. Unless you're counting some shitty Boston cop movies or something, there's really fuck all genuine hits (ie both commercial and critical) like The Guard or The Wind That Shakes The Barley (even then "hit" is a relative term).
I mean, not many people came away from Patriot Games with "muh Celtic pride", did they?
I'm sure a few did, on both sides of The Atlantic, mind you, but to even imply the existence of these people is slander and attempts to undermine my growing political base which threatens the hegemony you've held on the Dáil for too long
>>65041121 >be Irish Catholic boy >have 20 siblings because condoms are immoral >daddy has no time for you because he has to work like a Trojan to support his enormous family >can't fuck till marriage >get married aged 16 to someone you feel no connection to because you just want to fuck > live a miserable life >die of liver failure aged 25 from drinking too much alcohol as a form of escapism
>>65041283 "Superbook", it's the tale of 2 kids and a robot travelling in time and watching all stuff in the bible, they met Jesus personally and watched him being crucifixed, pretty sad to be quite honest fella
>>65041373 >>have 20 siblings because condoms are immoral
lmao brits literally want to have as little children as possible to turn their country over to foreigners
Gentle reminder that they're a fucking minority in their own capital city. I did sorta want them to suffer when I was a kid and this whole thing has been funny for a while but at this stage it's just full-on sad
are the english the most cucked people to ever exist?
>>65041610 You know why Britain has more foreigners? People actually want to move there because Ireland is poor as shit There's a reason people move to places like the UK, the USA, Germany over Pskidtan
>>65041714 I've spent a couple months there in total and I don't know what you're talking about >GOAT countryside and small cities >GOAT castles and abbeys >GOAT food like Black Pudding >GOAT authors like James Joyce and Oscar Wilde the only thing that was disappointing was Dublin itself
>>65041650 >You know why Britain has more foreigners?
with the exception of the Polish (which came about due to EU laws) your largest enthnic minorities have always been places you colonised
you got the Irish, the Indians, the Pakistanis, the Caribbean folk, and the various swathes of Africa
>England goes around the world trying to subjugate everybody >steal all of their natural resources, and ban them from attaining good jobs while you're there >simultaneously decide their culture is inferior, and force them to learn English >then leave, and are actually surprised when they come with you
This naturally happened to every European colonial country, but to actually HAND YOUR CAPITAL CITY over to them is unprecedented cuckolding. It didn't happen to the others to nearly the degree it happened to you
>hurr durr Ireland sux because it's white
complete cuckolding, try telling that to your wife's brown sons
>>65042089 Yeah they want you to catch up to American levels of bifurcated populations, but western europe seems all too willing to play catchup. It took forty years for America to get as bad as it is now, western europe's gotten a third of the way their in about 15.
>>65042203 >weak economy >literally one of the richest places per person on the planet
>'hundreds of generations' of inbreeding >one of longest survival rates so lifetime is nearly a century >has been planted by Spanish, normans, romans,anglo saxons brits, other european, scots in the last few centuries alone
>>65042367 The normans and Romans didn't come to Ireland in the last few centuries you dumb potato. It still had a lot less foreign influx because it's a small island, compared to the UK which is a big one with more people coming and going. It's nearer the European mainland too >>literally one of the richest places per person on the planet UK is richer per person
Are you some 'muh heritage' American faggot? I'm a pretty Conservative Englishman and I really enjoyed this film, no one think British Ireland was all roses.
>>65041183 The bit with the Black and Tans was a bit heavy handed but I didn't get too much of a 'waaahh, poor us!' vibe from Wind that Shakes the Barley. The execution of that Anglo-Irish lord was pretty brutal, so was [Spoiler] Cillian's killing by another Irishman, his fucking brother [/Spoiler]
>>65042381 The media are and have always been fucking idiots. There was dissitant IRA arsenal found by the Gardai containing a Serbian Zastava M76 and not one respectable publication got it right, it was either a SVD or an AK47
>>65042734 The production company is Irish, it first approached RTE with the concept and then went to channel 4. All the actors and writers were irish, nearly all of the special guests are irish comedians. the sets were done in London but all outside scenes were done in ireland
>>65042968 I am tended to think half of the beef in this thread is just muh-heritage Americans and the most autistic of irish and british shut-ins. I never ever come across Irish and British people not getting on IRL in the UK
>>65043107 >literally nobody thinks the english are cool, not even the majority of the countries they "founded" Funny that 90% of these countries speak English now as an official or co-official language. I don't see any countries speaking Irish, even Ireland itself
>>65043136 I come from a staunchly republican family in the north and I also feel strongly about what happened but I can differenciate between the actions of the British government and the British people.
>>65043159 >90% of these countries speak English now
colonialism is a hell of a drug, your Frankenstein's Monster of the US is responsible for the modern growth in the use of the language, and even then nobody is as monolingual as the Anglos
Irish is growing, even the most ardent of Loyalists in East Belfast are taking up Irish classes. The language will grow
You, however, have lost control of your language. Americans will always dictate what the rules are in the future, and the subculture of Black American slang will hold more water on the global scale than your own indigenous dialects.
>>65043335 hearing foreigners try and tell you about your country in general is pretty annoying. Most young brits especially though are normally pretty ignorant about ireland and the troubles. I don't think we were ever taught about it at school and i did history until i was 18. I suppose it's kind of a good thing in a way. It's not even a thought in most young brits heads when they meet Irish people. I dunno how it is for you guys though, probably a more sensitive issue.
>>65043420 >I wouldn't give a shit about that sort of thing, nor would anyone who's not a total wanker anyway.
well that's true too.
When I was in second year this Scouser girl was moved to our school and we had our own residential Nationalist (from Tyrone, even though we were in the Midlands) question her about her allegiances when she first came over. She honestly said she'd kill the Taoiseach for England.
After a while, she said she didn't realise how the English were such cunts and came over to a more Republican train of thought
>>65043420 I have friends of unionist persuasion aswell, we don't all froth at the mouth when it comes to different views. The only people who annoy me are those who are sanctimonious in their politics
>>65043468 Colonialism was a good thing. In hundreds of years, it will get to Roman Empire status - modernising these countries and forcing them into the modern world. Building a reliable infrastructure. Look.at pre colonial USA, Australia, Canada compared to those countries now. Heck, even look at India or Egypt
>>65043269 >I can differenciate between the actions of the British government and the British people.
after a while, yeah
you start to see the difference between Northerners an Southerners as you grow older and the Northerners seem alright They seem to have that soul, especially Mancs and Scousers (but then again that might be the Irish influence)
either way, they come out with songs like this which I can see being written by an Irish person
>>65043522 Yes it's a universal taboo I agree. And I don't blame most brits for not knowing when there is no education on anglo-irish relations but there is a lot of ignorance that really isn't conducive to peace. There is a similar porblem in the Irish Republic who largly escaped the troubles and don't wish to know anything about the issues in the north. Because of the legacy, we are rightly educated on it and less prone to repeat the same mistakes
>>65043683 >The only people who annoy me are those who are sanctimonious in their politics Anyone who uses political views as the basis of their identity is almost certainly a wanker desu, that goes for anything, unionist, republican, communist whatever. Fine to care about something or be passionate but still.
>>65043955 >Because of the legacy, we are rightly educated on it and less prone to repeat the same mistakes Yeah it's kinda sad in a way. Similar to how South Koreans basically couldn't give a fuck about reuniting with the north anymore. It's a tricky spot for the british though, i'm surprised its not mentioned more
>>65043935 I'm a republican with family who suffered at the ends of the british state in the conflict but I have a lot of respect and love for British people and culture. We're not the same nation and it was right to fight to make that distinction but there is a great brotherly relationship between the islands beneath the painful scars
>>65043525 They could if they had the entire island. They would be able to dominate the Atlantic and northern sea with the help of their hiberian occupying government in the upper echelon of the American military.
Keeping the north separate is beyond English pride, it is essential to propping up their longstanding role as vice-moneymen in chief to judes in the west.
>>65044209 well personally I consider the "British" identity to be an artificial identity, forged intentionally to spread the more Germanic aspects of the island to the Celtic areas in order to achieve cultural and political hegemony, maligning regional cultural and religious customs in the process
however, certain areas on the island are alright. Of course, I like the Highlands and the Hebrides and the other West-Coast islands of Scotland, along with Wales, and the north of England, but the south of England and a lot of the lowlands of Scotland just suck
>>65044124 >>65044278 Relations are better now than it's ever been but definatly we need more education and understanding between each other to recognise our conflicting interests in Northern Ireland, for it will always be the elephant in the room, it cannot be overlooked (in the same way as Israel/palestine)
>>65044330 I'm not saying all Irish in the Republic didn't care, the fact the border counties are strongholds for Sinn Fein is proof they know what actually happened. And I know the republic also suffered some spillover but for the majority of people there it was about as far away as Syria is now. There were many good people from the republic who helped in the north, sadly there were also many others who put their heads in the sand because it was too depressing to bear witness
I like Haughy as a populist strong man but there were much opposition to his stance in the Dail. Plus he was a pragmatist over nationalist principles, his concern for the economy was greater than what happened int he north, the same with every Dail party and leader in government
>>65044645 It's not my identity so it's not my place to tell those who do call themselves British their identity is not legitimate, that only breeds ignorance and hostility. The Protestant Unionist community do call themselves British here, I accept that.
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