Was she actually a good actress or did her legacy boost dramatically

Sing, dance, act, who are you to question the legend?

Wizard of Oz isn't a cult classic.
She was a bad actress playing a child

>>65037977
I might have rememberd something told to me wrong, but wasn't she some bat shit insane nymphomaniac/heroin addict?

>questioning Judy Garland talent

/tv/ must really be stopped.

>>65038018
She had alcohol problems, don't know about hard drug abuse tho

>wannabe critics think fucking Judy Garland needs to have her legacy revised and knocked down a peg
You need to go outside for a bit anon, get some air

>>65038018
She attempted suicide twice and died of an accidental prescribed overdose

>>65038059
>ywn have a qt alcoholic gf

Kill me

>>65038045
hotheads, madmen and memers

>>65037977

>cult classic

/reddit/ ----->

>>65038151
>& in the end, she recovered with food.

Ran into her the other day at Price Chopper, she has two kids & a Mexican husband

Am I old /tv/?

>>65037977
She was the Lindsay Lohan of her time, take that as you want

>>65037977
You must be a retard to think wizard of oz is a cult classic, you huge fucking mong retard

>>65038014
First film ever in color
Effects way ahead of its time
Contains one of the most iconic songs in Cinema history (Over the Rainbow)
Arguably the most used play in theater next to Romeo & Juliet

Oh and it's nearly 100 years old, but yeah it's not a classic hah

>>65038014
Wasnt she actually 16 years old when she stared in the Wizard of Oz though? And i wonder why they never made the sequel to Wizard of Oz since it's based on the novels which is 3 parts I think.. Wizard of Oz is way more darker in the book than what they did with the 1939 film

>>65038059
Cary Grant was asked to star in A Star is Born with her, but he turned it down because she was a junkie.

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>>65038444
>First film ever in color
Is this bait?

>>65038444
>First film ever in color

Lol no.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_early_color_feature_films

>>65039199
Didn't a midget hang himself on set?

>>65039199
>way more darker in the book

examples?

>>65039458
A bunch of fuck up shit happened on that set, the midgets were trying to get Judy drunk so they could gang fuck her (she was 16 at the time) the midget killing himself, the shit they used to make the Wicked Witch of the West skin green stayed on her for a month... A lot of crazy shit

>>65038018
The studios put her on some kind of drugs to keep her weight down.

>>65038444
Eat shit, you babydick retard; I said it wasn't a CULT classic

>hah
that's cute

>>65038444
It's not a cult film though

>>65039724
It's all mostly shit involving the Tin-man, like his original backstory of being a dude that was working his ass off to pay his marriage fee or something, but the Witch of the East cursed his axe so he cut off all his limbs and had them replaced by ones made of tin until he realized he was all made of tin

And then there's the part where the axes a Mountain Lion's head off, attracts a swarm of bees that tries to sting him but ended up killing themselves, he kills a couple of the flying monsters that kidnap Dorothy, and the Scarecrow gets attacked by a bunch of crows, and his way out is to break their necks one by one untill there's literally a pile of dead crows on the floor.

>>65037977
Was wizard of oz the only movie you've seen with Judy Garland
>>>/reddit/

>>65040103
>watching Judy Garland movies

>>>/lgbt/

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>>65040187
>Not wanting to fug prime Judy Garland

Out of here, faggot.

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>>65038014
>Wizard of Oz isn't a cult classic.

>>65037977
It feels like there was a much lower standard with acting back then.

>>65040187
>a female role in a movie equals a feminist movie
Your pleb taste is so terrible
>>>/v/
>>>/a/
You'll belong there

>>65039767
And the director was pro-Nazi, Tin man nearly died from breathing in that aluminum paint on his face, Witch of the West got her arm and hand burned from the special effects. That set was a Zoo, wish i was there to witness the comedy

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>tfw you realize Toto is probably dead now

>>65040648
>probably
Name 1 fucking dog that lived over 70 years

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>pop over to /tv/ for the first time
>see this thread
>mfw

Ya'll deserve each other. Goodbye forever.

>>65040799
Well my dog did

>>65039767
I thought the skin thing was with the first guy they got to play the tin man - like the original actor was wildly allergic to the makeup, and nearly died

>>65041601
It was both, the green paint wouldn't completely wash off the Witch of the West for a few weeks, it wasn't life threatening like the Tin mans paint issue was tho

did anyone else felt guilty for finding her cute and charming then relieved bc she was actually 16-17 and just acting all sweet and cuddly?

>>65037977
>cult classic
please stop
it's an actual classic

>>65038444
CULT YOU DINGUS

CULT
https://youtu.be/8I8mWG6HlmU

>the city of /tv/ entitled of knowing what's 'cult'

>>65038444
>Effects way ahead of its time
Not really. It looks great but its nothing revolutionary

>>65038444
>First film ever in color
Edison was experimenting with coloring frames within years of inventing the kinetograph so I think this might be like vaguely a little bit wrong

>>65040556
>the director was pro-Nazi
Which one, it went through 4 different ones.

The Fleming Nazi thing was just a rumor though, based on one anecdote

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What does /tv/ think about this?

>>65040384
I didn't say anything about feminists, I said you're gay if you're a Judy Garland fan. She is a major icon within the gay community.

>>65042077
From the thumbnail looks like a fleshlight with her pic.

>>65042077

i really really hope you are a female

>>65042077
cute, are you gay or a woman?

if a woman, i'll let you play dorothy in my bed

>>65042077
>It's pretend to be a girl on the internet post

>>65038444
>>65040277
It's not "cult" you morons. It's a completely mainstream classic.

>>65041984
the best way to really understand it is that there was a SHITLOAD of films with color sequences and even a bunch of two color feature films released in the 20's and early 30's
the first film to use what we'd consider today to be actual color (three strip technicolor) was this movie in 1935
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becky_Sharp

Does anybody else wish we got to see what the Witch of the East looked like, wasn't she stronger than the Witch of the West because of the Ruby shoes?

And why was there no Witch of the South and the "Good" Witch of the North served almost no purpose

>>65038059
the movie studios had her Liz Taylor and Mickey Rooney on drugs to keep them working nonstop

>>65042521
yeah they basically kept her in a coffin, gave her with sleeping pills then woke her up from her rest coccoon then gave her pep pills etc

it's creepy as fuck when you see her being so sweet and caring throughout that movie

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>>65038444
>First film ever in color
Do you know what Wizard of Oz lost best picture to?

>>65042584
It should have lost to Mr. Smith Goes to Washington desu senpai.

>>65041964
Yes, it really was. It was stupidly successful at integrating colored filming in a time when most people only designed for black and white. Colored animations had already been around, but live action color filming had no pedigree. This. Shit. Is. Impressive.

>>65042622
Mammy pls

>>65042633
>when most people only designed for black and white
I mean I'm like 90% sure colors still existed in the real world and that color vision was a thing.

>>65038444
>expecting an underage millenial to be able to comprehend and appreciate film history

>>65042770
Are you retarded? Costume designers would design the costumes to look best in black and white. If you saw half the shit they were wearing in color they would look ridiculous.

They did the same thing with sports. Thats why the Packers have those ugly brown and yellow throwback jerseys. They looked good in black and white on a tv.

>>65042770
>i share a cinema board with people like this

>>65038014
It wasn't an initial success = cult classic

>>65040556
Which set was the biggest pandemonium, Wizard of Oz or Cleopatra?

>>65042584
Is it me or is the audio on this film fucked up? As in, it looks like there's two audio tracks playing at the same time, and they're out of synch in a way that everything sounds like General Grievious

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They could have done a reboot with this girl
>missed their chance

>>65043448
just because she's young doesnt mean she can act cute, naive and trusting. It'd be some tv sarcastic smartass teen

This was the first movie that made me realize i'm a pedophile. Dorthy made me rock hard even though I was younger then her when watching it.

>>65043933
she had tits and hips bigger than nicole kidman or the new wonder woman dude

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>>65043933
When I was a little kid I went through a phase where I watched this movie every day. My parents thought I just loved the movie. I did enjoy the whole thing, but the real reason I watched it so much was because this face turned me on. Even as a 5 year old I knew that was wrong, and it would be weird if I just paused the movie and stared, so I'd watch the whole thing every single day to get to this one scene.

>>65044095
???

Was it a phase?

>>65044054
seriously is this a new meme?

>>65044214
I think so. It doesn't do anything for me anymore.

>>65040799
There is a dog that is about 10,000 years old, he only exists in the form of cancer cells now but still alive

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canine_transmissible_venereal_tumor


>The success of this single cell lineage, believed to be the longest continually propagated cell lineage in the world

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>>65043448
nah it wouldn't have worked with her, she's not as pretty and she doesn't have those puppy dog eyes and that look of innocence that Judy captured perfectly

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>>65043933
>pedophile
what?

>>65043933
Ephebophile, not pedo. She wasn't a child she was a teenager.

>>65045549
scarecrow, tin man and lion are only 4 feet tall

>>65045549
>years watching this movie and I never realized that the guy at the gate, the charrioteer, and the guy guarding Oz's gates was the same actor as Professor Marvel and Oz

>the same neckbeards that shitpost about Star Wars and capeshit all day are now saying The Wizard Of Oz was a bad movie

>>65045644
You should see The Shop Around the Corner. He's in that movie too. It's a comedy-drama with Jimmy Stewart. He's really good in it.

>>65045549
>what?
men in america were brainwashed by hags. They literally hate themselves as if they're the worse sort of degenerate deviants because someone under 18 is cute and has breasts

now they're not allowed to have good feelings, cuteness in their lives or erections

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>>65040648
>probably

>>65045732
>i'd get my dick all stiffy
>if i only had the baaalls

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>>65045549

>>65045742
kek

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i dont know how the red-ish brown hair looks cuter

I actually liked the musicals she did with Mickey Rooney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2hLvqKe0V8

She was a star, OP.

>>65046983

Too bad she looks like the Cowardly Lion's daughter.

>>65046983
>you will never see the unused takes with Blonde Judy
>you will never see the film in its original 2h and 10 minute running time
>tfw the only remaining footage of the Jitterbug number is some shitty 16mm home movie some guy did

>>65047099
i mean, she's still pretty and all (although she looks like Alice) but the brown hair looks so nice idk why

>>65047084

And here she is holding her own against Gene Kelly. This is good shit. Wholesome entertainment ruined by baby boomers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsE8h53P9Vg

>>65047184

Maybe it looks nice because you wish you were her

>>65047222
those trips are scary, but seriously her brown hair just looks like it smells really sweet like it was washed in cherry juice

>>65038208
You may be old but you're wise. You realized you loved the drink, not the girl it was in.

>>65047175
>you will never see the uncut versions of your favorite films

I really wonder how the hell that ''pet rat'' subplot in Ben-Hur would've been played out in the story.

>>65037977
>wizard of Oz
>cult classic

Do you actually know what that term means?

>>65039767
Not fucked up back then but it is now: the snow they used when Dorothy fell asleep in the poppy field was actually pure asbestos

>>65041984
>Edison
>inventing the Kinetograph
Pick one and only fucking one.

>>65047649
TIDF pls go and take your alternating current savagery with you.

>>65047777
This has absolutely nothing to do with Tesla. Your idiot is showing.

>>65047818

you one mad teslababy

>>65047856
>>65047777
Still shilling for Edison 100 years later. Cryogeny must really work.

>>65047929
Daily reminder that anti-Edson is a synonim of anti-white

>>65037977
>>65045100
>>65046983
Judy had a nice set of DSL's

>>65047976
>Daily reminder that anti-Edson is a synonim of anti-white

What isn't these days..

>>65040648
What a shock.

>>65040648
judy probably overdosed it with coke and pills after she forced him to eat her hairy bush and thought the dog might eventually tell someone

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Dorothy had a huge cleft in her chin...

>>65045725
I just watched that on TCM.

>>65045100
literally highschool sweetheart material

(im 95yo)

>>65042385
I think it was implied that Dorothy was the Witch of the South (being from Kansas), that's why the Witch of the North kept asking her "are you a good witch or a bad witch?" and plus the Ruby slippers wouldn't come off her

>>65042385
The good witch of the North and South appear in the novel, there probaly isn't any north/south witches in the movie because there's only Glinda without any specification if she's the north or south witch.

>>65040556
>And the director was pro-Nazi
We're talking about crazy shit that happened, not based opinions some people had.

Nice 556GET

>>65051882
Glinda is confirmed as the Witch of the South in the film, it's the North Witch that's mia

>>65052173
Glinda is South in the novel but North in the film, you can make a case for Dorthy being the Witch of the South in the film with little hints but it's safe to assume there's no Witch of the South in the 1939 film

>>65045620
kek

>>65038237
lohan was never that adorable

>>65042077
That's a good looking tat, but i wouldn't want that on my forearm

>>65038444
>First film ever in color
I automatically said "Nope" because I know for a fact that there were color movies made before, the first full-color one being made in 1935.

>>65047504
Holy shit is that real lol

>>65051554
>kansas
>south
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>65041601
Who played Jed Clampett?

>>65043308
Oz easily

>>65037977
My wife's son really likes this movie

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>>65044438

>>65037977
Great actress, singer and dancer
The fags went crazy over her after she died
She was 47 when she died and looked 70
Alcoholic and amphetamine addict
She was 35 the year I was born

>>65057287
wew lad

You good?

>>65039906
>>65042337
>>65038014
>something cant be mainstream and a cult classic

this is probably one of the first cult movies with fanclubs, cons and things like that. Not to mention the cultural significance it has.

>>65042077
dont like the birds. If anything it shouldve had some kind of landscape of OZ or something. The quality is great if thats a real tat

>>65044438
bruh what the fuck this shit is crazy. This should be a movie

>>65047504
Lol no way that asbestos shit is real

>>65037977
I'd be careful there, anon. You do not want to get on the wrong side of the gays...

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>>65038444
>>65038444
>First film ever in color
Seriously?

>Arguably the most used play in theater next to Romeo & Juliet
The most used play is however Sherlock Holmes, not Romeo and Juliet dumbass, it's the work of art that had more movies, series or similar based upon.

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>>65040215
>Prime Judy
>Not cunnee Judy

GTFO fag

>>65041723
No because I was 7 when I first watched it.

>>65045647
Oz was the original capeshit/star wars.

>>65059375
kinda gross and momma's boy to like a girl almost 10 years older than you

So hard to believe Liza Minelli is her daughter.

>>65047175
I remember watching the out takes for that jitterbug number on the vhs tape.

>>65059593
Except it didn't make that much money when it originally came out.

>>65059752
Really? I thought it made bank? At least for the time.

>>65037977
>The Wizard of Oz
>a cult classic
do you have fucking down syndrome or what

>>65037977
I wanna see her BLACKED.

>>65059801
It made money, it just wasn't a huge smash like Gone with the Wind was.

>>65058884
Why does Judy have a rep for having a bunch of gay fans?

>>65060006
I don't know how it started all started, but she was friendly with gay people. Must be that she hung out with a lot of them being in musicals and all. They wound up loving her. I'll give you three guesses, and the first two don't count, as to why the rainbow is the gay pride symbol.

>>65059830
i doubt the black dude would have a problem with the corpse, it'll probably have enough exposed bones to be white enough

>>65060006
she's a fragile dainty little diva who's slightly tragic in her fall from youthful glory, messed up head, and was in a classic of camp (the three companions are pretty campy caricatures, "friends of dorothy")

also some bi dudes probably would have enjoyed her cuteness when she was young

>>65047193
Sad that you can't make a movie like this anymore. Gene Kelly would have to be black and they'd have to sing a song about being a trans testical pair with acceptable gender pronouns.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ln3sNwccHxI

>>65042583
MK-ULTRA is a lot older than most would suppose, it began at least during the lead up to WWII but may very well be even older than that.

>>65042583
Anybody got some sauce on this? Sounds like good fap reading.

>>65059830
I don't know dude, Judy might've been a legit racist being raised in the mid 1920s-30s