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So I'm 10 minutes into Spectre and Bond...
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So I'm 10 minutes into Spectre and Bond has caused two buildings to (partially) collapse probably killing dozens of civillians and now he knocked down the pilot of the helicopter that's flying just over a crowd of hundreds. What the fuck is this sociopathic shit?

inb4 plebs bitch and moan about me putting a bondshit movie on pause to write this
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I thought the same thing. You're better off turning it off now because the rest of the flick is just as stupid.
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They're not white people so it doesn't matter to him.
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>>64996198
Sam Mendes had no idea what he was doing in this one. He just threw a bunch of shit to the wall hoping something would stick like Skyfall. Didn't really pan out. Even my dad who is a huge Craig/Bond fan had very little to say about it.
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>>64996198
why do you think the movie is seem as the worst one?
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>craig
>bond
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>>64996198
If you didn't enjoy the beginning you might as well turn it off. It's the only good scene in the movie.

Maybe jump to Christoph Waltz making an ass out of himself if you want to laugh.
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>>64996198
Didn't like it at all, everything just felt off, like they thought they couldn't fail after Skyfall turned out to be really good.

Also the theme song is quite possibly the least appropriate song for a bond movie ever, and that whole "I was so inspired by seeing a little bit of the movie that I wrote the entire song in 20 minutes!! XD" by that faggot Sam Smith really showed; it felt like an entire 20 minutes of effort and work had been put into it. Really fucking disappointing.
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>>64996198
Since when has Bond EVER cared something other than completing the mission? He has always been reckless.
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Movie Bond has been a sociopath since minute one.
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>>64996198
Spectre is the worst bond movie I've seen so far. I haven't seen any of the Roger Moore ones.

It's just a complete mess of ideas and plotlines. Blofeld is supposed to be a mastermind that has been behind all the previous craig-bond villains, yet he acts like a complete retard in the final act of the film. It's complete trash. I feel sorry for brits.
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first half was 8/10
second half was 6/10
Seydoux best bondfu
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>>64996228
>>64996198
>tfw downloaded Spectre yesterday and tried to watch it
>ran into the same problem and it really took me out of the movie Bond acting like that
I got about a half hour in and stopped watching. Why are Bond films so shit now? First they chose that crap theme that was written in twenty minutes but then the rest of the movie isn't so good either.
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I haven't seen this yet because I assumed it was gonna be shite
Yesterday I heard that radiohead did the score for it, so I was considering it
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>>64996284
They tried to stick to the Bond formula and give it a twist by adding a fourth act after the destruction of the villain's lair.
But it doesn't work because the 3rd act ends too soon and the 4th is cliched and unoriginal.
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I'm just getting to the last third myself. It's pretty fucking weak so far and gets very stupid but the fight on the train is pretty sweet before the comedy ending.
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>>64996952
They only did a song for the theme which wasn't picked. Instead the one that was chosen was written in 20 minutes by a faggot.
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Craigs suit looks too small throughout the whole movie
Is that fashion?
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>>64996952
That Radiohead song you heard was rejected.
This is the real thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jzDnsjYv9A
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>>64997071
>>64997088
ah ok, a friend of mine told me, hadn't really double checked
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>>64997088
christ it's so fucking shit, did they just pick a shitty popular singer without thinking it through?
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>>64997277
>those dubs
Yeah but check these dubs.
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>>64997086

no this is
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>>64997369
thanks m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-w0zPSsTs
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>>64997305

Not only that, Sam Smith wrote the song in 20 minutes. now if I was writing a James Bond title song i would not be bragging that it took me TWENTY FUCKING MINUTES TO WRITE
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>>64997086
no this is
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>It was me all along James.
I just stopped giving a fuck after that. Spectre makes Quantum look like a flawed gem.
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>>64997454

would cop
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>>64997086
Yep, that's the suit fashion in the 2010s
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>>64997484
it's only about 1k friendo, that's like 2 rick tees
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>>64997636

I hear mustard is in this year.
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>>64997663
runway pic is from 2014

might have been ahead of it's time though
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>ITT People who pretend to be fans of the franchise blindly jump on the bandwagon and parrot the popular opinion of meme critics
This is one of the most faithful to the franchise bond movies that craig's been in.
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>>64997766
>tripfag goes full contrarian in a pathetic and ultimately fruitless effort to distinguish himself from the crowd

wow i sure am surprised
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>>64997875
>le tripfag argument
Sure lends some credence to your non existent counterpoint, friend.
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>>64997766
>This is one of the most faithful to the franchise bond movies that craig's been in.
Well, considering most of the Bond movies are utter shit you might be right there.
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>>64996198
I had forgotten how horrible the filters in the movie were.
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>>64997909
Yeah, well, opinions don't really come into play there so I'm glad we're in agreement.
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>>64997305

Yeah, and the worse part is that it's that fucking faggot nigger dick shit Sam Shitmith
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>>64997766

that's not saying much since Craig movies are absolute shit.

Also, filtered :^)
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>>64996198

women liked it 'cause they used a 60 year milf as a bond girl.

i mean come on.
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Does your mind instinctually wander to 4chan whenever you watch a movie? You seem pathetic
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>>64996198
>not watching superior Mission Impossible movies
grow up kid
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>>64997502
To be fair if you are in shape like Craig it looks stupid as fuck to have those huge suits like the fat old gentlemen wear.
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>>64996198
>collapses two buildings and probably kills dozens of civilians in the process
>adjusts his suit like a badass
if you didn't laugh you have no sense of humor
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>>64998014
I don't have any friends, let alone friends interested in movies, so yeah, I'm posting here to express when I like or dislike some movie.

Faggot.
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>>64997905
You're so mature bro, you get your kicks by tripfagging and using said trip to act like a bratty teenager.
Not even that guy, but he does have a point - you're a pathetic fag.
Kill yourself.
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>>64998135
I remember Brosnan fixing his tie after he drove a tank throught some wall in Prague.
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>>64996284
>Shit's On The Wall by Sam Shit
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Why does every bond thread on /tv/ seem to populated with people who either haven't seen or choose to ignore the 20 odd movies that came before Craig?
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Why the hell do you people watch these movies that you clearly hate before you even turn them on? Is it just to make threads on this septic tank of a website?
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>>64998201
Because those all suck
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>>64998229
He listed things that he saw after turning it on...
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>>64996198
Why is it that when someone is looking to discredit a character or movie they don't like for whatever reason, they immediately skew their view towards any situation resulting in the worst possible scenario but when they like it they lean the other way and assume people were evacuated and what not?
And why does anyone think this type of argumentation is in any way relevant subject matter?
MoS and Avengers being a prime example of this paired with company loyalty.
>>64998181
Cool.
I'm not even me either but I do have a point - you're pathetic too.
Pls rape your own face.
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>>64998189
And underwater.
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>>64998201
I've seen them all, amigo.

>>64998229
Why wouldn't I watch shitty movies? I watch good movies too.
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>>64997086

Yes.

Also it's for showcasing his physique since women are a bigger part of Bond audience than before.
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is it worth downloading or is it even shittier than skyfall was?
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>>64998201
Casino Royal was a reboot so that older crap doesn't even matter
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>>64998278
>I'm going to mimic you because I'm too uncreative to come up with anything better
Literally a child.
You think you're some hot shit, but I can't wait until you meet somebody who shows you how out of touch with reality you are.
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>>64997971
>Sam Shitmith
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>>64998500
>Literally a child.
Just responding in kind. ;^)
No need to have aneurysm, you little penis.
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>>64998004
they really aren't
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>>64998278
it's relevant because these capeshit movies deal
with saving the world/a group of people/a person and if the characters act in a way that contradicts their whole purpose then it all falls apart. out of the three you're talking about Avengers is the best when it comes down to how characters fulfill their roles as a point was made about saving whoever they can when they can whilst dealing with AN ARMY. the others had the character act like a retard because there was a chance to show MUH CGI SPLOSIONS with Bond being the worst because they took out all the gadgets and shit that made Bond cool and had to compensate. TL;DR it's completely relevant if you're not autistic.
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>>64998617
> ;^)
>look at me guys, nobody can touch me
>i'm just so fucking good
>tips fedora
>i hate you dad
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>>64996198
Yellow Filter: The Movie

is this deus ex?
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>>64999073
Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point.
In man of steel superman is opposed by AN ARMY of literal supermen. They all have the power to level cities and on top of that there are multiple highly advanced spacecraft at their disposal and a machine that can literally compact the entire planet.

The avengers are one by one picking off minor threats that amount to little more than humans on hoverbikes with guns aside from the giant flying worm thing which thor and hulk end after a long battle destroying large parts of the city.
The thing they do is save the city from being nuked by its own government after which the aliens just die because "lol mind controlled drones" or some such shit.
They save a city.
Superman saves the entire planet and the damage done is a few city blocks leveled and yet he gets blamed for the entire thing?
And then also gets shit on for killing the villain who admits that he'd never stop and has the same abilities as superman.
And as far as acting like retards for entertainment purposes go, I hardly think you should comment on that in the same post that you defend the avengers.
>>64999187
I love my dad though.
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Daniel Craig is fucking trash familia
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>>64996198
You know what's the worst part?
The intro is the best part of the entire movie.

There's nothing that even remotely comes close to that level of descent Bond action.
I mean, I'm not saying it's good by any means, but it makes the rest of the movie look like fanfic tier garbage.
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>>64996324

Every time

It's not funny or clever, even the filename

and you always get called out on it
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>>65000052
>The intro is the best part of the entire movie.

Agreed
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>>64997088

This is terrible. Radiohead's doesnt really fit, feels like a ballad unto itself, but better than this
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>>64999331
>>64999331
How has anything i've said proved your point? you seem to think that there's a single aspect or a particular set of traits that people should judge movies by because that's all you know (which is literal autism btw) and that arguing over a chracter's actions/motivations is irrelevant because you say it is, which is wrong because things are far more nuanced than that.
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>>64996198
Movie was average as fuck, like most movies these days. Literally the only thing we have to look forward to is Civil War. God save us russo brothers.
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>you've got 48 hours, james, and then you're really grounded
>good, I'm gonna steal this car and DRIVE from london to rome then, seems efficient
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NEW THREAD >>>>64999996

>>>>64999996
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>>65000680

For what purpose?
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Bond flicks are for kids-to-young-adults. If you're watching them beyond age 18, you have problems well beyond the movie.
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>>65000571
That is not what autism is and is also an incorrect inference about my person.
Nice going glossing over that whole post answering precisely the question you just asked though.
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>>64996198
did you at least marathon the first 10 minutes
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>>65000680
>being this reddit
You don't need a new thread for a fucking summary post you humongous faggot.
>>65000751
>Entertainment has an upper age limit
How sad your life must be.
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>>65000767
OP here, I bingewatched the first 30 minutes. I'm probably gonna watch this movie the whole evening on patches of 10-15 minutes.
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>>64996198
>Mexico scene
>everything is made of piss
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>>65000680
>>65000680
>>65000680
>>65000680
>NEW THREAD >>>>64999996
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>>65000836
By bingewatched/marathoned I assume you mean without staring down at your phone for prolonged periods of time.
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>>65000885
Aww man
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>>64996198
The house he was on appeared empty. The other house only the facade collapsed. There were a handful of casualties but as he said to M, better that than a whole stadium, which is what Sciarra would have done if it weren't for Bond.
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>>65000861
>I don't understand even basic cinematography of visual media
Cool.
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>>65000882
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>>65001088
>>65000882
neck yourself, kiddo.
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>>65000757
>that is not what autism is and is also an incorrect inference about my person
jesus christ.
>Nice going glossing over that whole post answering precisely the question you just asked though
wait, you think all that bullshit you said was well-thought out and not you cherrypicking like you complain about in your initial post? honestly, i'd continue, but judging by that first line you're too far up your own ass to see any sense.
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Imagine being Monica Bellucci in this movie and having to be all like "damn, Daniel Craig, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and hair with the same color as your skin. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all she really wants to do is fuck another 10 year old in her dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Monica Bellucci and not only pretend you're interested in seducing this 5’9’’ wrinkly mess of a man, the favorable lighting barely concealing the box he’s standing on, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while he mumbles some soulless mysterious one-liners he picked from other movies or whatever. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking visage but his haughty attitude as everyone on set tells him she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, DANIEL CRAIG LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his disgusting british fingers trying to caress your mediterran hair. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of young boys and Vincent Cassels. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his barren womb as he sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in his „stotuscé“ (he meant "statuesque" but can’t say it because his disgusting british accent)“ beauty, the beauty he worked so hard for with personal trainers and expensive anti aging creams in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could seduce every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Monica Bellucci. You're not going to lose your not yet born future boytoys. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>65001266
>words scare me
Yeah okay, brotendo.
Better now?
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>>65001003

this
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>>>65000680
>>>65000680
>>>65000680
>>>65000680
>>NEW THREAD >>>>64999996 → →
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>>65000975
Killing hundreds of football fans is preferable to killing even one random civillian tho.
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>>64996198
Lives of others don't matter to the ewige anglo.
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>>64997088
does this faggot have a fucking lisp?
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they're only mexicans anon
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>>65001549
nigga this thread only has 90 replies
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>>64996198

>posting or otherwise doing anything other than watching the movie while watching a movie.

I hate you and everything about you OP.

Your entire bloodline should be eliminated.
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If you're going to complain about something that early in the movie, it really should be that Craig somehow continues to look 60 years old. His hair looks 80.

Or just wait until the third act when it goes off the rails because of some obvious reshoots/script changes because of the leak.
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>>65004456
>while watching a movie
>while
OP here, you're an idiot and I adressed idiots like you in my post.
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>>64996625
Hoo boy, are you in for a treat.
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>>64996482
And they chose that song ahead of the Radiohead one. baka desu senpai
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>>65004790

Moonraker is fucking based.

That is all.
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>>65004878
If you like Bond to be utter camp cheese, then yes it is based.

https://youtu.be/p-vM-4f9Vjk
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IMO it was a cool action movie, they tried to put some Brosnan-comic relief in Craig, it somewhat succeeded. Good actors, ncie story but some parts seemed rushed, and the whole man-behind-the-curtain was so strongly inserted inside our throat that it was disgusting.

But I prefered it to skyfall
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So is it true that "The Man from U.N.C.L.E" was more Bond than the latest Bond?
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>>65000649
Kek

Maybe the plane had wings n sheet
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I'm rewatching Quantum of Solace now. Why does it feel so shitty. I don't remember James Bond movies being so cheap/bland. It's like once you've seen Casino Royale, you've basically seen every other Craig Bond movie.
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>>64996324
>sean connery literally rapes a girl
this shit wouldnt be possible nowadays
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>>65000649
Takes a few hours from london to rome via the tunnel, whereas with a plane, not only would he have had to get tickets to fucking ROME on short notice but even if he got a private plane to take him it would all be logged with the government.
Driving is both quicker and more practical.
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>>65005122
It helps that it was set in the time period of the original bond movies.
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>>65005122

Man From UNCLE a much more boring movie than SPECTRE though.
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>>64998201
Because most of them weren't as lifeless and sterile as SPECTRE?
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>>65005314
I think you mistook Rome for Paris there, mate. The road distance between London and Rome is almost 2000 kilometers. Even if he drives with 140 km/h that's still 14 hours.
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>>65005645
You're not accounting for the 200km/h speedlimit most of the way.
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>>64996253
>They're not white people so it doesn't matter
fixed that for you

Spectre was par as far as Bond films go.
not terrible, but not memorable either.

Casino Royale > Skyfall > Spectre > QoS
and when is Craig's Bond going to be Bond? They keep adding little pieces one movie at a time like Moneypenny and Q, but get it together already. The car gadget gag was funnny, but i want to see a put together Bond before Craig hangs it up.
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>>65005730
>200km/h speedlimit most of the way
The speed limit on the French highways is 130 km/h tho, so if Bond is driving BY THE BOOK it will take him more than 16 hours without counting breaks.
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>>64996575
I mean he straight up rapes a girl in Goldeneye. Like, the movie tries to play it off as this like, playful thing with that old fashioned idea of "she just won't admit she wants it", but the whole damn thing was pretty uncomfortable and super rapey. Also just a little bit hot. But mostly rapey.
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>>65006021
>I mean he straight up rapes a girl in Goldeneye
Wut?
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>>65006094
im sure he meant goldfinger
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>>64997088
>Yeah hes really in right now
>Well is he talented at least like Adele?
>Uhh, well, he can sing like a girl and is suuuper sensitive and cries a lot
>Yep, THIS is who we need making the Bond movie theme music.
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>>65005914
There's a super highway moving through most of central europe with essentially no speed limit.
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>>65006157
Well, that's alright, then.
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>>65006237
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>>65006285
Okay?
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>>65006237
>There's a super highway moving through most of central europe with essentially no speed limit.
[citation needed]
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>>65006237
No, there isn't.
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>>65006021
>>65006157

Yeah, it's Goldfinger.

It's obviously been different in recent films, but the shower sex scene in Skyfall came off darker than intended.

>Bond girl has been a sex slave for most of her life
>helps Bond out of sheer desperation to get away
>Bond just walks up to her while she's showering and sticks his dick in her

If I recall correctly she even shivered in fear when noticing someone alongside her, since she probably expected it to be one of Silva's lackeys.
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>>65006309
the autobahn has no speed limit.
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>>65006308
ITS A BLACK MALE THING
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>>65006417
>where
>he actually saved this image on his computer from 4chan to further le epin blacked meme
okay then.
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>>64997905
Kill yourself.
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>>65006400
>the autobahn has no speed limit.
Of course it has speed limit, only certain parts don't. Also Germany is not in the way of the London-Rome route.
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>>65006560
>ofcourse it does but doesn't.
Tard.
MOST of it doesn't. Hence it doesn't as a general rule.
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>>65006601
No, most of it DOES have speed limits. You're a retarded fuck.
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>>65006678
If you're right then why are you so salty?
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>>65006548
U 1'st.
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>>65006750
Because you're a retard.
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>>65006678
Literally go on wikipedia and type in "AUTOBAHN".
Over 50% of it has no speed limit.
Almost all of it has no speed limit ever, some of it has temporary speed limits due to weather and sub par conditions etc. About 30% has a permanent speed limit.
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>>65006821
>damage control
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The beginning was the only good part of this movie
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>>65006898
>>65006856
>Bond drove throught Germany on his way to Rome
Idiot.
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>>65007000
>damage control and deflection
That was no longer part of the argument, champ. :^)
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>>65007032
Still waiting for that
>a super highway moving through most of central europe with essentially no speed limit
retardo
50% of the German highways is not really
>a super highway moving through most of central europe with essentially no speed limit
>a super highway moving through most of central europe with essentially no speed limit
lol
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>>65006094
Yeah meant Goldfinger, woops
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>tfw we all thought Quantum of Solace was shit for a new Bond film
>tfw they proceeded to give us Skyfall and Spectre
Honestly I enjoy QoS now. S and S, not so much.
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I think this was the cutest bond qt so far
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>>64996482
Radiohead did a theme song, it was rejected, they couldn't sell it on the radio.
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>>65007088
OKay, mangina.
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>that's all we saw of monica in lingerie
shit movie
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>>64996198
Last good Bond film was Octopussy
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>>65007385
she is old now so be happy.
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>>64996198
Why was Sam Mendes ripping off "Birdman" for the first scene of "Spectre"?
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>>65007385
Seydoux was the better bondfu
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>>65007487
You mean by doing a continuous shot?
Fucking end yourself.
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>>65007385
IMAGINE
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>>65006021
Some girl saw me jokingly mimic bond's rapey hand grab and invasiveness in Spectre to my friend (we were avin' giggle about it) and she came over, sat beside me and started talking about sex and how I should 'just ask her!' and that there are 7 billion people you can fuck so it's all good.

I was like '?, we're talking about James Bond being rapey' and she said 'Ohhh right, well actually that's hot that he dominates like that'

>Brb, getting suit and pinning girls against the wall.
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>>65007487
That's the fashionable things now - quasi long takes and thing flying towards the camera for that 3d scare. It's an easy way to spot the hacks.
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>>65007591
>long takes
>ever a hack thing
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>>65007707
It's literally the hackiest thing ever.
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>>65007760
Maybe on ground level with a hand held cam.
The shot in spectre uses a transition between crane, rails and handheld through a crowd, up stairs and then multiple floors of a hotel and through a window.
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>>65007840
That's what makes it hacky. If you have to involve le computers into your """"one""""" shot you're a hack.
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>>65007903
You have no idea how movie making works you damage controlling faggot.
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>>65004815
The radiohead one was just as shite desu sempai
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>>64996198
It's just collateral damage, I am sure the Mexicans affected would have stayed calm until the end.

Sorry chaps, nothing personal.
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Really, everyone knows the name of the song has to be the same as the name of the movie or it's no good.
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>>65008095
What about Casino Royale?
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>>65008132
>you know my name
>good
The visuals were cool, but the song sucked and wasn't 'Bond'
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Before

>M is Bond's boss and gives him orders
>Q is Bond's gadget guy and gives him gimmick tools that Bond can use at crucial moments

Now
>Bond is shit talking M to his face and acting all smug
>Bond is shit talking Q to his face and telling him to hack the planet so plot relevant info just falls into his lap

Bond was always a smug prick but in the last two movies he's basically insufferable and I'm actually always rooting for the badguys to push his shit in.
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>>65007997
>responding to retards
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>>64996198
yeah this movie is actually fucking garbage.
the ending "climax" is probably one of the worst ever
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>>64996198

>complaining about a film you pirated.
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I saw this in the cinema and proper laughed hard in the gunfight escaping the spectre base, where bond was just walking around with loads of guys shooting at him, and he was one hand firing an SMG and one-shotting people fucking miles away. It was geniunely stupid looking, slipped into a parody of itself.

Its clear they really dont care anymore. Spectre was so lazy it was pitiful to watch. The bond films exist now solely to advertise beer, sunglesses, watches and phones.
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It's a disappointing film.

For about 100 minutes it's gearing up to be a very good spectacle. Beautiful cinematography, atmospheric, good action set pieces, thrilling, good soundtrack, performances from the actors are on point - yes the writing isn't that deep or complex but it's not pretending to be at this point

and then Blofeld happens and decides 'No you shall not have fun', breaks the movie with terrible writing, slows the pace down horribly and it never recovers from that.

It should've never gone with the whole retarded drama attempt with Blofeld and Bond, that shit just failed on spectacular level.

It's like the crew got changed once the movie hits 100 minute mark.. sad.

but the first 100 minutes, BOY WHAT A FUCKING RIDE. Those are some VERY VERY GOOD 100 minutes.
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>no gadgets
>boring chase/fight scenes
>no martinis
>bond cares too much about the random sluts he bangs
>bond has daddy issues
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>>65008339

I love the commercials for shit that act like Bond is there. The phone one where she's talking with bond, and then the Belvedere one that ends with "good choice Mr. Bond" or some shit.
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>>65008339
HEY HEY! YOU!

That's what I mean! The Blofeld, everything related to him, his Meteorite base, it is EXACTLY LIKE I said >>65008448 here that the crew got changed or something changed because it felt nobody gave a single solitary fuck about what happened there or later in the film making process.

and it's sad because I fell in love with the first 100 minutes but the movie goes to trash can tier so fast when they drop from the train and go to Blofeld's.
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They want to be campy bond, but can't commit to it and keep the grit in, making it feel really weird.
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>>65008525
There was no campy bond, they just stopped caring about making Spectre about 100 minutes in when they had to write and introduce Blofeld and everything related to him which was pure shit.

It was just bad.

The first 100 minutes tho are good
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>>65007548
They should've had a moment where Bond walks past a guy playing drums, who then gets shot.
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>Spectre (2015) is the longest Bond film to date with a running time of 2 hours and 28 minutes.
Oh, it shows.
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>>65008775
Or Bond doing this scene.
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>Former James Bond actor Pierce Brosnan, who played Bond in four films released between 1995 to 2002, commented on Spectre (2015) in November 2015 in an interview with 'HitFlix'. Brosnan said: "I was looking forward to it enormously. I thought it was too long. The story was kind of weak - it could have been condensed. It kind of went on too long. It really did. [It] is neither fish nor fowl. It's neither Bond nor Bourne. Am I in a Bond movie? Not in a Bond movie? But Daniel, in the fourth go-round, has ownership of it. He had a nice looseness to him. He's a mighty warrior, and I think he found a great sense of himself in this one with the one-liners and a nice playfulness there. Just get a tighter story, and he'll have another classic. I think the guy was just fairly banjaxed by playing it. By the time you finish making a Bond movie, you don't want to hear the name, see the name or have anything to do with it because you just want to go to ground. Give him another year off here, and he'll be ready to rock and roll for sure."
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>>65008780
Actually outside the Blofedld camp I felt it was well paced, but the writing wasn't up to the task and Mendes started slipping a lot past 100 minute mark.

It could've been so much worse.
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>>65008448
Great toast desu. It shat the bed when it got all serious with Blofeld

>I am the auteur of all your payne

Didn't it have a disastrous third act in the original script? They had to rewrite it iirc.
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>>64997394

>black

more like playing it safe
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>>65009557
I don't recall production issues but by my whiskers I do not understand why they thought after making such a beautiful action spectacle with GREAT pacing (the first 60 minutes went fucking flying) they decided to fuck it up so hard.

All the drama bits were so phony and fake between Bond and Blofeld ruined the movie. I didn't even care about Blofeld's jealousy and the actor was half-assing it (like EVERYONE, where did Hoyte's beautiful cinematography go? there are only bits of it at the end when Bond goes with the chick)

It's just annoys me so much.
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>>65009974
To be honest, the first half looked beautiful, or at least incredibly crisp, sterile and sharp. I have never really been a fan of Hoyte's DP work. Her was beautiful, but he has never really won me over. I'd love to see a Bond with Lubetski (sp?). Now that would be incredibly unique and perhaps a refreshing change from the grim dark and monotonous shite we've got lately.

I agree with everyone phoning it in, Waltz especially, which was baffling. There was a level of disdain among the cast and crew, rumour has it. Craig's a notorious asshole and had Belucci's role basically axed because she wouldn't fuck him. This is just gossip though.
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>>65010325
Hoyte's DP work reminded of some New Hollywood films I have seen from the 70s, but I just can't put my finger on what movie is it what I am thinking about (esp. the scenes with more yellows in them) also the gorgeous blues in the night when the first car chase starts got my dick going.

That rumor part is weird because honestly as an action spectacle the first 100 minutes are 8/10 material for me and I kept hoping it'd nail it and then it all just crashed and burned.

Like everything after they leave the train station in the desert, to head to Blofeld - like everything after this scene in picture related was filmed years after with a whole new crew and atmosphere in the set which ruins everything for me. So many cuts and really stupid plot, horrible attempts at drama, like I said uninteresting and vanilla cinematography, Mendes fucking up, actors (especially Waltz) being terrible (the French chick was suddenly all shit too?)
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>>64996198
>he knocked down the pilot of the helicopter that's flying just over a crowd of hundreds.
why he did that?
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>>65010470
I can't remember what the source said verbatim, but apparently Craig thinks he's some kind of god, cheats on Weisz, is an asshole to the crew etc.

Mendes was reluctant to sign on to Spectre and I think it shows.

Plus you got niggerpenny claiming that Bond Girls should not be called 'Bond Girls'.

I think between all this on set drama and drastic third act rewrites, we were lucky we got such a coherent piece of work. It was a bit of a let down, but in all honesty, I enjoyed it more than I did Skyfall.

Also, the third act reminded me exactly of Dr. No. But then they have that final haunted house maze thing which felt a bit weird. Blofeld was a shit-tier villain.
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>>65010561

Because it was one less person to fight
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It was better than skyfall desu senpai
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>>65010670
Mendes was reluctant to sign on Spectre? That's news to me because it's really has a lot of build up to be something very good and I thought Mendes did a good job making those action set pieces (few too many cuts, shits the bed later on like said, about the time when they arrive to Meteorite Base). There's hardly anything I have to criticize about the pre-Meteorite Base bits. I love most of that stuff.

>I think between all this on set drama and drastic third act rewrites, we were lucky we got such a coherent piece of work. It was a bit of a let down, but in all honesty, I enjoyed it more than I did Skyfall.

It's surprisingly coherent, I mean the plot isn't trying to be really that complex and there's a redline with narratives, but dear lord the acting and writing of characters and their dialogue fails. None of the drama during and past Meteorite Base (which they so hard tried to do) translates at all to me. It just all reeks of failed attempts and director slacking off, everyone slacking off. There was definitely good enough drama before they go to MB, surface level drama what action spectacle needs not less not more and it was performed well.

Blofeld was a pretty bad villain, because we are supposed to take so much for granted.

Bardem's expression of Silva's love and hate was so much better it's not even in the same fucking league

Nothinga nnoys me more than movie with potential failing to deliver. This had so much potential.
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>>65010893
Oh forgot to add, crudely put,
Drama in Skyfall was million times better than drama in Spectre and we all know it wasn't that good in Skyfall.

Casino Royale still the GOAT.

First movie where I think Craig actually phoned it in, Spectre.
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>>64996324
>being salty that Casino Royale is the best bond movie
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>>65008339
He was using the compact variant of the vz.58 assault rifle, not an smg.
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Sam Mendes is shit, news at 11

Skyfall is dogshit

Spectre is dogshit with cinnamon on top
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>>65010893
Yeah, from memory he felt like it was huge work the first time and perhaps had said all he needed to say through Skyfall

Blofeld was a bad villain, but as I said, I got a strong Dr. No vibe with the meteorite base (assuming that was where they were dropped off). Though due to the seriousness and lack of camp, it felt odd and flat. I think they wanted Blofeld to be this imposing enigma, but again, that fell flat. Regardless of what I thought of Skyfall, Bardem's portrayal of Silva is one of the best things that has ever happened in the series.

I am cautiously optimistic for the next film. Perhaps they will learn the error of their ways, or maybe we'll get another bizarre QoS?

>>65010971
CR is the GOAT, same with Goldeneye. What do they have in common? The same director
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>>65010670

>but apparently Craig thinks he's some kind of god

I find it hard to believe. In every interview it seems like it's the exact opposite, he's very humble and hates talking about himself.
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>>65011431
I beg to disagree, Mendes would have some sort of nieche as 'sophisticated action' director as seen in Spectre's first 100 minutes. Sure he won't ever be a director that has something to say or be visionary but I would personally wathc movies like Spectre's first half, action, high production quality, great goddamn action set pieces, slow burner feel to the atmosphere, feel of grand scale and lots of European cities, Hoytema's somewhat new hollywoodish cinematography giving it a great look.

>>65011496
>thought of Skyfall, Bardem's portrayal of Silva is one of the best things that has ever happened in the series.
I rewatched Skyfall with my brother and after first thinking he was grating, I fell in love with his theatrical style the second time. The last scene with him meeting M is very good.

>Bizarre QoS
I think I like overall QoS more than Spectre. At least I don't get the disappointment with QoS since I expected a trainwreck from the start.
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>>64996198
Forgettable movie. I saw it like 2 weeks ago and I can't really remember much about it other than not being impressed or entertained while watching it.

Yet, I can remember every Columbo episode I watch that week.
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>>64996198
the rest of the movie pretty restrained (almost to the point of being predictable and boring)
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>>65007573
underrated
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>>65005770
well that's mean
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