Constitution class refit
It may have been in video games only, but I got a thing for the Federation making battleships bigger than a mile and designed to hunt Borg ships.
The show is supposed to be akin the SUBMARINE WARFARE
If anyone pays any, ANY attention to the design of LE AWESOME STARSHIPS then they are missing the point of the show entirely
Delete this thread.
It's not like the shuttle craft need a runway
Star trek thread?
Just finished season 1 (the next generation) some anons told me the 1st 2 seasons were kind of weak compared to the rest but I'm genuinely having a good time, I like the politics and diplomacy most of all, sometimes philosophical questions,
>that episode where the one planets race is addicted to a drug that was supposed to be a cure to a plague that was eradicated a long time ago
How is it going to get """"""better"""""""? It's pretty strong already.
Also pardon my ignorance but is spock in this or the previous series? What's the main difference between the two? I really dug wrath of khan.
>tfw will never be Wesley crusher
This comment is so all over the place I can't tell if it's bait or what
Going to go ahead and post best girl
Well the OP was only talking about the ships, I wanted to add some variety in topics we could discuss. Didn't mean to be bait, actually I can't conceive how it could be viewed as it, but I guess that's 4chans expectations now.
Make way, shitheads. There's only one ship who can save us from the Klingon Menace.
You wanna push some Romulan shit in? Call a real warship.
I cannot remember, did tinman make the guy immortal? I know he was going to go hang out in solitude with him, but tinman was billions of years old. Surely a 100 year humanoid lifespan would not be nearly enough to keep him from succeeding with his seppuku.
The fuck, so why would you watch it? For the amazing special effects? The great costume/makeup? (note: I'm being ironic about those two, ok the costume work is actually decent.)
Wesley is like some genius who doesn't know it yet, is it wrong to want to identify with him?
The federation is not a military service. No No No perish the thought. Ignore that one ship that has zero research and exploration capability which was specifically designed to destroy other warships.
Your mother jerks off pigs. She gets down on her knees and crawls through the pigpiss mud slop and snuggles up to the pig, her fingers tracing along it's belly until she finds it's cock. She begins tugging and stroking as her twat moistens, her breasts swelling and her nipples begin to stick out like erasers on a fresh #2 pencil. She grunts with satisfaction as the pig begins eagerly thrusting into her hand, her grip now tightening to maintain control of the pig's greasy corkscrew cock. She lowers her head to watch the cock work in her hand, groans with satisfaction and begins working her clit with her other muddy hand, her hips gyrating with the rhythm of the pig's thrusting. "Oh fucking jesus god yes.." she gasps. She changes positions, still maintaining control of the feverishly thrusting cock as the pig's squealing intensifies. She leans forward and with her lips almost touching the pig's ear, she whispers your name and begins to shudder. She turns her attention again to the pigs swollen member rocking in her hand. She presses it between her hand and her face, the pig thrusting it against her cheeks as she drools. With a massive grunt and a high pitched squeal, the pig's balls explode, beginning a massive shower of hot, sour pig jizz. You mother cups one hand under the fountain of steaming genetic material gathering it in her hand as the thrusting comes to an end. The pig shudders and begins to walk to the trough of slop in the corner of it's pen, but your mother tackles it to the ground. She lifts it's tail and smears the handful of pig load into the pig's own fetid butthole, turning flakes of crusty pig shit into a pigshit-pigjizz mud slop on the pigs ass. . She slams her face full force into the pig's butthole and it's wreath of shitsemen pudding, her tongue machine gun flicking the rim and then burying itself to the hilt inside the pig's hot colon
I think the Intrepid deserves a mention, but only the variant that has giant aids cannon
I'm surprised a model so low detail was made for a movie, you can make out the polygons when the light from the torpedoes flash over it.
>"Commander, prithee recount the story of those demesnes adjacent to your thigh?"
I like these little critters
They're so cute, like baby starships
>ywn go on an away mission with Kira, Dax, O'Brien, and Bashir in one of these things
>We have only ever seen the tiny front section
What secrets does the rear cabin hold, Nazi gold?
Whatever you thought of the ST sequel, that ship was like the Enterprise-D's well-hung, Special Ops cousin.
Apparently TNG showed the back cabin in one episode, but the middle sections are a mystery. Most blueprints have it as storage/bathroom with modular areas for cargo or bedrooms
I honestly never noticed that huge hole in the saucer before
The Intrepid is a sexy beast of a ship.
That ship is my ultimate favorite ship.
The entire thing is a holodeck, can split in to a total of 3 ships all capable of warp 9.99, and can defend itself better than any other ship, even the defiance class.
Of course I'd use the thing as my own one man ship full of waifus. Fuck deep space tactical recon, I've got waifus.
While I loved that episode, the ship gimmick is a bit ridiculous
>Okay we're looking for a successor to the F-35
>What about a jet where there's like, a button, and if you press it, the plane splits into three planes
>and then a computer will guide the other two parts of the plane to shoot at your target with you and then it comes back together
Was the bridge in the front or in the middle? Why couldn't they make up their minds?
>tfw USS Mary Sue shows up
Well the idea was to have a member or two of the skeleton crew be on each part of the ship and control it from there.
The ship's biggest failing is if the comms get damaged on any part of the ship(s) while split or if the holo emitters fail.
Cut off the comms in one unmanned section, it's dead in the water since it can't receive orders from the main control room. Cut off holo emitters in the section, and there's no way for the ship to self repair.
>talking shit about the savior of the Alpha Quadrant
hello mary sue
>tiny enough for captain negro to ignore his show is based on a boring space station so he can go out and have adventures like the big boys on the enterprise
>supercool borg-killing design
>firepower of a galaxy class
>has cloaking cus lol why not that too
ira steven behr was a fedora.
>Official List of Mary Sue Ships:
SS Enterprise NX-01
USS Enterprise NCC 1701
USS Enterprise NCC 1701-A
USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D
USS Enterprise NCC 1701-E
>Official List of Non-Mary Sue Ships:
Let's all have a round of applause for the USS Grissom.
That episode really rustled me with respect to computer automation more than anything else in all the Trek I've seen
From the questions the EMH asked the ship's computer, we could see that the computer KNEW the entire crew had been killed by Romulans and KNEW the Romulans had taken control. Any sane designer would make it so if the computer knew both of these things had occurred, it would automatically shut down all systems and make it so only a Starfleet command-level authorization would unlock them.
The computer should have been programmed with all sorts of failsafes like that self-aware missile B'Elanna had to stop in early Voyager; it would have prevented so many bad situations from happening.
The paint job makes it go faster
Shouldn't you be posting Ro pics somewhere?
>Official List of Mary Sue Ships:
ftfy matie. just deal with it like a mature person.
Who's going to stop me princess?
i'm not ro poster, he just posts ro all the time. i know him from these threads, though.
To do that it would need to have no paint at all
What if the twist that it was self aware, and chose to side with whoever was the most tactically adept choice?
Romulans managed to get onboard and kill the entire crew? Ship is wasted on starfleet, romulans are obviously superior. Two holograms enter the stage and start plotting to take down the romulans? Let it happen, see who is superior. Help both sides and see who is victorious.
But while I wish all that were true and we could have an awesome sentient shipfu, i'm pretty sure it could be written off as "It was a top secret prototype on a test flight and certain features were not implemented, and the romulan presence was not expected."
>the Defiant embarked on trial runs that did not end well for Starfleet. The vessel was overpowered and over-gunned for a ship of its size – so much so that the Defiant nearly shook itself apart, when the engines were tested at full power
notice that every bird of prey carries one or two whales in its hold.
The Defiant had limits. In its first episode it was totally BTFO. It its final episode it was so BTFO that it blew up.
Look at Voyager, on the other hand. It had infinite resources (shuttles, torpedoes and holo-power), was never destroyed without getting retconned, and by the end it was blowing up Borg Cubes in one single shot. The perfect Mary Sue ship without flaws.
voyager was the right size to hold up for long term voyage, regardless of whether the writers were too dumb to keep track of shuttle and torpedo numbers. by the end, it was saved by future janeway for the last episode, buddy, it wasnt running around like that the whole series.
>not constantly re-supplied during Janeway's frequent raids
muh budget constraints
year of hell was SUPPOSED to be an entire season, the ship was supposed to get fucked up good and jury rigged and repaired with alien technology and shit ..
>Build a short range science vessel
>Give it enough armor and weaponry to go toe to toe with any ship in the galaxy
>Crew it with the biggest bad-asses in the universe
The Federation never half does anything. I wish Equinox had survived and showed up later in the series as a recurring threat. It was such an awesome design and had the best actors. The captain and first officer had the most badass voices.
That would have been so bad-ass. I feel like Voyager was just one half baked idea after another for 7 seasons. It could have been great if only the show runners had a little courage. It doesn't help that all the good writers left after the first season to write for DS9.
Regardless of whether or not the Voyager writers intended to create a Mary Sue starship, if the end result is still that Voyager was the most powerful ship in the history of Star Trek, then you really have to congratulate the writers for creating the biggest Mary Sue starship in the history of Star Trek.
>it was blowing up Borg Cubes in one single shot
That was more a problem with the Borg getting retconned into complete shit over the course of time from their introduction to the end:
>single cube wipes out an entire fleet of Starfleet's best ships
>threat to all of humanity, unable to be reasoned with
>single Starfleet shuttle can go head-to-head against a Borg cube and come out even
>Borg willing to negotiate
>Borg getting wrecked by other species
>reformed Borg colonists
>angsty Borg teenagers
>every week a new weakness that could wipe out the whole collective is discovered
Let's not forget that it suffered from having some of the worst piece of shit cast members, too.
The guy who played Chakotay wanted to be killed off so fucking badly that he'd demand outrageous things to happen in the show, else he'd walk. Writers caved at every corner. The biggest thing was him and Seven hooking up. Her endgame was always supposed to be the EMH, but nope. The guy had to demand that she hook up with him else he'd walk, so it happened.
None of which changes the fact that the defiant is a piece of shit Mary Sue. Deal with it.
Believe it or not, I'm actually enjoying DS9.
There were really only a couple of bad apples in the bunch. Kate Mulgrew is a fantastic actress. Robert Picardo and Jeri Ryan totally stole the show even with the lines they were given to read.
Just be glad we weren't stuck with their first pick for Janeway. Imagine 7 seasons of this shit.
Don't mind me just being the best ship. The USS Stargazer.
not him, but your butthurtness is silly. voyager gets to be powerful, because even though its smaller than a galaxy class, its still huge.
defiant, on the other hand, was a way for boring ds9 to have its cake and eat it too, being on a space station but also having a tiny ship with the firepower of a galaxy class. fucking ridiculous.
She's not guided by logic. They made that a huge part of her "being human". She can't let logic control her and has to do what she feels is right in her heart, even if it doesn't make sense or isn't practical.
They shipped her and EMH, both characters that weren't human but wanted to be, and then Chakotay waltzes in and is like, "Wanna fuck?" and she floods like a monsoon, just because. And then to add insult to injury, in the future he marries someone who looks like Seven, even though she's a dumb bimbo, after Seven kills herself.
It's starfleet. They do it because they can.
Only tourists/redditors claim to be a Trek fan but 'hate' an entire series so much that they won't enjoy any of it. No surprise that you enjoy DS9
>Implying she couldn't use the leftover borg technology in her body, to make a borg baby with her own genetic material adjusted by Zimmerman's.
>Implying the Doctor couldn't help her out with the process with is immense knowledge of medicine
>Implying this kid then wouldn't be the Kuvah'magh of photonic lifeforms
>in the future he marries someone who looks like Seven
what? are you referring to the bitch in timeless, cause she was nowhere near as goodlooking as seven.
You know that technology in Star Trek is supposed to improve as years pass, right? I don't understand why it makes you upset to see that the technology level of the Defiant is more advanced than the technology level of the Galaxy, when the Defiant was designed years later and with different purposes in mind.
Voyager doesn't just get to be powerful, it gets to be the most powerful starship that we've ever seen. The writers treated Voyager like it was a special snowflake, moreso than any other ship. Just like the Defiant, just like the Enterprises, Voyager is a Mary Sue.
What if the entire ship was rotated 90 degrees?
You mean the one with the planet that they got stuck in orbit of, causing seismic activity?
While he never explained it, I think the kid was probably adopted, since he was sent there even before the species first got the Voyager meaning it was before their equivilent of the 20th century.
No way he could have built an incubator with at most steam engines, no matter how awesome he is.
To be fair, Icheb was much, much better than Wesley, and Mezoti or whatever her name was would have been better if Naomi didn't already exist. The show was bad enough I think the Borg kids actually improved it.
inb4 "le teleporters kill you when you get beamed xD" meme posts
The Defiant isn't the most powerful ship we've ever seen. That's Voyager.
I already agreed that the Defiant is a Mary Sue. Now I just want to know: Do you agree that the Voyager is a Mary Sue too?
He was never married in timeless. I'm talking about the blonde bimbo from the series finale. She wasn't as good looking as seven, but she had her bodytype. Just goes to show that he wanted what he couldn't have and had to settle for less.
NX with TOS paint job is best ship
No, supposedly Tupac and Neelix got put back in the right bodies, and Janeway and Paris get unevolved or whatever from the lizardslugs. What >>64973466 is referring to is an episode where the Harry Kim from the regular star trek universe dies and another Harry Kim from a very similar universe ends up taking his place.
No, it's not a "Harry Kim from a very similar universe".
It's Harry Kim from the same universe.
The ship itself gets torn into tow versions that coexsist in the same universe. While they are seperate, and are phasically(?) dislocsated from eachother, they were created from the very same ship in the very same universe, so both Harry Kims are the same Harry Kim.
There is no reason whatsoever to call him the duplicate, but not the rest of the ship. You might aswell just call everyone but Kim and Naomi the duplicates and him the genuine article.
I liked the Borg kids, just thought it was silly how humanized the Borg got after their 'look at these badasses!' introduction in mid TNG
They do though. At least, by a certain definition of death.
The transporters convert you into energy and then reassemble you at the desired location (in that episode of TNG where Scotty showed up, we see that this energy state can be sustained for literally years). This means your entire body-- including your brain-- is dissolved for a short time, ceasing all brain activity. This is, technically speaking, brain death, though you are shortly reconstructed.
Of course it never really was consistent how the transporters work. Kirk got split in two, Riker got cloned, and Barclay seemed to be 100% lucid when we got his POV going through a transporter.
Again, this depends on your definition of 'death'. Tupac and Neelix had their brains (thus their consciousness) completely changed into something new and then reverted, essentially a temporary 'death'
>Janeway and Paris get unevolved or whatever from the lizardslugs
We have no proof that the lizards found by Chakotay and Tuvok were actually Janeway and Paris. They only had a _trace_ of human DNA in them, and the EMH turned them into humans based on DNA records stored in the ship's computer.
Those lizards might have been their children, or grandchildren, or even great-grandchildren, and so on. And then they were given "their memories" back based on the same technology that Uhura used when Nomad mind-wiped her.
Well yeah, the process was pretty much ongoing. In that Lore plotline they had a whole army of 'rebel' Borg
your lucidity is an illusion of the period between your brain molecules being disassembled and reassembled meshing into one experience
with absolutely no recollection of the period of being pure energy at all
scotty didn't know he was in the transporter for 75 years, it was no different than a regular beaming for him
Why does she get so sad and angry in every episode?
I'm not sure the Kira waifufags would even be able to tolerate her if they had her, because every little action might remind her of the occupation and send her into a depression
I don't see any mentions of TNG in that post.
I find this tactic very amusing. You always post some specific 'poll' from reddit-- outing yourself as a redditor-- in order to defend/indict the 'reddit'ness of a certain series
Star Trek Online has some nice original ship designs now and then.
Bra, if you're gonna go offence go Akira.
My point is that it's stupid to even talk about Reddit in the first place.
We all like TNG, we're not going to stop liking TNG even though it's the most Reddit of all the Star Treks, so posts that try to drag Reddit into the conversation (like >>64974619) are just a waste of time.
It's the finest distress beacon class ship in the alpha quadrant.
>Its a conman from the past steals a time ship and goes to the enterprise and hands out questionnaires to the bridge crew episode.
Enough with the arguing about which show is more Rebbit.
Let's argue about which show is more 4chin.
You now have a replicator, multiplayer holodeck, and quantum internet with almost no latency.
Do you ever leave the house again?
>it's a I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids and your android episode
>It's a "the crew gets trapped inside the holodeck" episode
>Its a Worf gets pawned again episode.
>Its a Geordi gets friendzoned again episode.
So I guess that suggests you're a redditor then
Uh no shit. That's who I've been talking about the whole time.
Doc wanted 7, 7 was set to be paired with Doc until Chakotay's actor tried to get fired again, ends up with Chakotay, Doc is stuck marrying a bimbo knockoff of 7 because the real one kills herself.
that was spose to be robin williams, which explains why hes such a weird character
I stopped watching Voyager with like 10 episodes left. Does Seven really an hero in the course of the show or is this some EU thing? One anon mentioned an EU book where seven takes over a planet or some shit like that.
>They shipped her and EMH, both characters that weren't human but wanted to be, and then Chakotay waltzes in and is like, "Wanna fuck?" and she floods like a monsoon, just because. And then to add insult to injury, in the future he marries someone who looks like Seven, even though she's a dumb bimbo, after Seven kills herself...
He was never married in timeless. I'm talking about the blonde bimbo from the series finale. She wasn't as good looking as seven, but she had her bodytype. Just goes to show that he wanted what he couldn't have and had to settle for less.
notice how you type and use pronouns. it looked like you were saying chakotay married a blonde.
Note that I wrote 'suggests', not 'means', as you only suggested that the other anon was a redditor
>it's a Trek thread gets derailed for the thousandth time by reddit McCarthyism episode
This is getting out of hand. I wish there was a symbol that would mark all posts by redditards so we could get this bullshit over with and move on to other matters.
Yes it was, he even says so in one of his interviews.
They also wanted Garrett to quit, so they ruined his dream of directing an episode of star trek by making him the only main character not to direct an episode of the series he was in.
He's not the only person who didn't direct anything. He's the only person who asked to direct and was told "no."
Other people also didn't direct too, but they didn't ask to direct anyway.
Where did this meme of actors directing the show they are in come from? Being a good actor does not make you a competent director, so I was always surprised how many times it happened in Trek
>They also wanted Garrett to quit
that makes no sense. they were going to fire him then decided to keep him when he won a magazine award for being a beautiful person. sounds fake, but its true.
Any Trek actor who asked to direct was sent to directing school so that they'd know how to direct when it came time for their turn in the schedule.
Except for Garrett Wang.
The producers still hated his guts because he told TV Guide about the time that Rick Berman ordered all the actors for humans to act wooden and lifeless.
Let's just get this over with and post the drama gt
>the writing staff's Native American advisor was actually an Armenian scam artist
>before the show began, Executive Producer Rick Berman told the human characters to act wooden, to make the aliens "pop"
>Chakotay hated how bland he became, so he kept demanding pay raises, hoping to be fired
>Chakotay dated 7 of 9 only because he demanded a romantic relationship
>7 was hired because Executive Producer Brannon Braga wanted to sleep with her
>Janeway didn't like that 7 was ruining her "feminist role model" vision, so Janeway bullied 7 on-set
>this only stopped when 7 began sleeping with Braga, ruining her marriage
>when her divorce details became public, her ex-husband lost the race for Illinois Senator to Barack Obama
>the bullying was so bad that Harry Kim bursts into treats and cries about it at conventions
>Kim and Tom Paris avoided the bullying by spending their off-camera time at the snack table
>they gained so much weight that the writers threw fat jokes into scripts
>the execs began hating Kim when he talked to TV Guide about Berman's acting mandate
>they were going to fire him, and only didn't because People Magazine named him among the year's Most Beautiful People
>instead they fired Kes, and her life spun out of control, so she fell into drugs and crime
>Tuvok has no life outside of Star Trek, and he's now the driving force behind Renegades
>Ron Moore joined as Co-Executive Producer, but left when he saw that the writers/execs "don't give a shit"
the borg is the only logical choice for a starship. the rest are all jingley jangley and acceleration would tear them apart. still, ncc1701 will ALWAYS be the coolest spacehip. i had a model of it in 1973!
>Tuvok has no life outside of Star Trek
This part cracks me up. Tim Russ basically didn't even have to act to play Tuvok
uh, how about not? this has always been the aesthetic of starfleet
>nacelles don't connect to the stardrive section
>nacelles connect to a nauseatingly ugly blob on top of the stardrive
Excelsior is the WORST design in history.
>a fan of Star Trek, beloved series expounding upon the limitless potential of mankind, posts 'hello reddit' in threads
It's so hard for me to reconcile that someone could enjoy Trek and still be such a mouth-breathing shitposter. I don't know, maybe you're just trying to fit in. Young, maybe? I just can't understand it.
Star Trek is so high-brow and some of the trash people post in these threads is the polar opposite.
DS9 SE05E09(The Ascent): tfw you can't fucking believe that a Federation outsider as Nog was allowed to do field assignments,a little over 1 year(plus a weeks of summer training) at Starfleet Academy as a cadet.
Keep in mind Nog couldn't even read English at first,he was taught by Jake.Yet,a super-genius as Wesley failed his entrance exams multiply times(he was made an acting ensign while on the Enterprise-D,before becoming a cadet)!
Even more baffling is that Nog was field promoted to full ensign...in less then 2 years(SE06E05)!And he became a Lt-junior grade at the end of DS9(less then 4 years as a Starfleet officer)!
How long did it take for Wesley to finally being a Lieutenant-junior grade again,while being a super-genius?15 fucking years(2464-2379).
Once Starfleet saw that Nog wasn't a total fuck-up, and in fact was pretty competent in his studies/service, the top brass started giving him little "pushes" and "boosts" to further his career ahead of schedule.
After all, he's the first Ferengi in Starfleet history, so it makes Starfleet look good when Nog looks good.
They did the same for Worf.
sorry, but ds9 is the odd-man out, and this edgy fedora is your rolemodel.
>How long did it take for Wesley to finally being a Lieutenant-junior grade again,while being a super-genius?15 fucking years(2464-2379).
Wesley Crusher never rejoined Starfleet, you Nemesis-watching Memory Alpha-reading fuck.
Official List of Star Trekkers who did literally (literally!) nothing wrong:
>Its a O'brien and Bashir go on a broventure episode.
>Its a Damar don't give a fuck anymore and has an epiphany and decides not to drink anymore and become based as fuck episode.
>Its a Odo gets some of that sweet sweet kira ass episode.
>Its a Q shows up in a non-TNG star trek episode.
>spend five years shipping them
>they finally get together
>it was a mistake
"After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but is often true." - Harold T. Spock
>Its a O'brien threatens to cut your balls off episode
You know Nemesis could've been alot better if they would've replaced the B bullshit with Lore which would've gave a better secondary villain then leRemanVisroy and a much better ending for Data i.e. Data still dies but imprinting his memory ingrams in Lore corrects Lore and he becomes the new Data.
>Its a Doctor carries the show on his back again episode.
Maybe Shinzon could have built his own "Bizzaro TNG team" with Lore, Thomas Riker, un-lobotomized Kurn and Tasha's sister who looked like Linda Hamilton.