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>hear praise about Rick and Morty
>"hmm i might check that out"
>first episode
>Summer: "Oh my God!"
>Rick: "Mm, there is no God, Summer. You got to rip that band-aid off now. You'll thank me later."

Fucking really? First fucking episode and he shoves fedora shit in my face? Literally Reddit: the show. Fuck Reddit and Memey.
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The devil put R&M on this earth to test Christians.
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>>64947056

Rick is a deconstruction/mockery of the fedora, man. Watch more.
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>keep hearing about it from my friends
>immediately know it's shit if they like it
>tip my fedora to them in my mind and think "fucking pleb shits, one day you will all be sorry"
>go home to make videos of me shooting fruits in the forest with my 9mm
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It's a stoner show with stoner humor, overall it's actually not that bad but nowhere near as good as people make it out to be. Of course if you watch it with REDDIT REDDIT in mind then you're a fucking idiot who takes memes seriously.
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>>64947107
Kek
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>>64947056
>>64947080

NO don't watch. we, and everyone else don't want you here. just go away and never post again.
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>>64947107
Holy shit...Are you me?
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>mom
>i posted it again
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>>64947056
There is no need to be upset. The Lord God will judge them.
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>>64947056
>He gets as triggered as muslims about his religon.
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>>64947056
>tfw only in America would a christfag be infuriated by a cartoon character scientist who travels to different galaxies and visits different species saying there is no god
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>Atheism is fedora shit

Hello Alabama.
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>>64947544
>>64947546
>>64947584
You do realize you're going to spend eternity in Hell right?
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>IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD YOU'RE AN IDIOT

As a self-hating atheist I cringed equally as hard.
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>>64947056
You know Religion is a cult right?
Stop being a sheep, that's what THEY want.
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I thought the joke was just Rick going out of his way to be an insensitive dick to his family. Like he never actually proves on screen there's no God, he just sort of assumes it because his life is shit despite the fact that he's really smart.

At least that's how I took it. It's a facet of the character, not something taken as canon for the show.
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>>64947711
you're going to cringe pretty hard when the devil is torturing you literally forever.
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>>64947711
>As a self-hating atheist

how does that work?
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>>64947796
And you're gonna feel like an idiot when... Oh wait you're not going to feel anything because you'll be dead.
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>>64947626
>implying we're not already
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>>64947790
>not something taken as canon for the show.
It is canon in real life though.
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>>64947080
>>Rick is a deconstruction/mockery of the fedora, man

So basically it's "WE ONLY PRETENDAN 2B R-TARDED MONG HURPEN DUH DURPEN"?
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>>64947169
>muh sekret club
Back to reddit you go
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>>64947864

Not really. Maybe you should spend some time away from /tv/ anon, not everything is a /tv/ meme
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>>64947056
There is literally an episode where Rick and Summer get outsmarted by the literal devil so they shoot up steroids, become buff, and kick the devils ass
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>>64947056
There's an episode where Rick prays to God.
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>>64947821
I'll be in Heaven with God you dumb nigger. Loser.
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>>64947790
>he never actually proves on screen there's no God
>proves on screen there's no God

they dont teach Popper at american schools, dont they?
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>>64947932
>post ironic trolling
What a time to be alive
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>>64947930
Scene in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aUowoykENE
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>>64947930

literally /tv/ the show
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>>64947864

you really need to go back to reddit faggot
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>>64947822
2deep
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>>64947864

Sure.
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>>64947626
Bold claim there buddy. Neither the existence of hell nor the existence of an immortal soul has been proven.
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>>64947056
>>64947953

Rick's a scientist. Of course he isn't an atheist.
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>>64947626

I'm pretty sure God committed suicide and we are already in hell.
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>>64948088
If it could be proven then faith would be irrelevant. And as you should know, God demands faith.
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>>64947626
Why can't god handle the bantz?
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>>64947626
CHildren have bone cancer
absolutely 2016
If I slit your throat you would rot in the ground
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>>64947790
No but to understand that you'd have to think beyond what words are being thrown in your face. You see anything a character says is actually the moral of the story and a message the creators is trying to force upon you.
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>>64948135
I believe reddit is more amenable to ye of little faith
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>>64948116
Suicides go to hell. If we're in hell right now then God is here too. I don't see God (except figuratively) ergo, we are not in hell.
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>>64947056
Religitard is butthurt?
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>>64948135
*unsheathes katana and teleports behind you*

heh, catch me if you can
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Rick is a scientist so above everyone else that he has a god complex.

Than that one scene:

>rick starts to fall to cetrain death
>starts saying : Oh god please do something

He is suppose to be a hippocrite.
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>>64948176
>Suicides go to hell.

According to who?
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>>64948135
>CHildren have bone cancer
They probably derserved it. God is nothing if not fair.
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>>64948154

or maybe it's just a dumb joke on a dumb cartoon made for 20 something year old potheads
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>>64948176

You don't see God because you are in God, which is hell since God committed suicide.

First there was a singularity, then the singularity blew up. This was God killing itself because it was oh so lonely.
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>>64948197
I'll give you one guess, heathen.
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>reddit and morty
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>Fedora meme means atheism is dumb! My friends on 4chan said so and they are cool mom!

How many years until the contrarian ship turns around again? Even reddit hates atheism these days.
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>>64948187

There are no atheists in foxholes.
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Finally got around to watching season 2 of this and the only good episode was the one when they're trapped in the house with those aliens

The rest is shitty meme bait family guy tier humour
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>>64948229

Why would I want to guess? I am literally asking you where you get your info.
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>>64948246
It actually pretty hilarious how fickle these interweb 'free thinkers' actually are. I saw people on this site openly admit that dropped being an atheist because of the meem a few years back.
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>Christfag getting perturbed and throwing a fit over petty nonsense

Shocking.
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>>64948316
>Implying the car battery one wasn't the best.
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>>64948319

Yes that was my meme.
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>>64947056
its ironical memery which is why i like it

>flubawubadubdub

is equal to

>you got tricked
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>>64948318
I'll tell you after you guess.
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>>64947056
>Discussing cartoons on /tv/ and not /co/ where they belong

MODS MODS MODS

You know there are episodes where rick actually prays and meets the literal devil right
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>>64948176
>Suicides go to hell
Not if you're Catholic, the Pope and God had a chat and ironed out a new deal
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>>64948390

I have no interest in guessing, anon. If you have no interest in telling me where you got your inside scoop, that's fine by me.
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>>64947056
It's a good show, its too bad you can't overcome your preconceived notions and enjoy something for what it is.
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>>64948390

Arby's.
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>he think's theres god
nice try Ahmed, don't you have German girls to molest or something?
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>>64948436
Enjoy Hell then I guess.
>>64948451
WRONG. It was God.
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>>64948474

Oh so you talked to God? Cool.
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>>64948518
I talk to God every day.
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>>64948474
So you are not even a catholic? Have fun being some New wave bullshit were the old info from god was altered and altered to suit your personal tastes. YOU are the one going to hell mate.
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>>64948542
Does he talk back?
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>>64948542

Cool.
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>>64948554
Catholics are idolatrous garbage people.

>>64948555
Only by showing me the splendor his his creation.
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>people keep shouting REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT
>show creator browses 4chan
>animators and storyboard guys are drawfags from 4chan

hmm.
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>>64948582
>Only by showing me the splendor his his creation.

You mean Brahma's creation?
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>>64948608
Justin shitposts on /co/ and Dan doesn't like it here.
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>>64948582
>Only by showing me the splendor his his creation.
Yotsuba B or Tomorrow?
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>nice try Ahmed, don't you have German girls to molest or something?
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>>64948246
>>64948319
It's just that these people want to be against whatever way the wind blows. Which is why you see so many /pol/-tier racists on this site now. 4chan used to be leftist as fuck before that was mainstream.
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>>64948121
>God demands faith
When? Outside of texts Jews stoned on mushrooms wrote in the desert over 2000 years ago and succeeding fan fiction, he's been pretty silent on the subject.
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>>64948688
motherfucking Photon.
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>its a 4chan pretends not to be atheist episode
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>>64949063
agnostic is the way to go
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>>64949075
>Implying most atheists aren't agnostic atheists
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>>64949075
uh as opposed to atheist? what are you trying to say?

if you dont actively believe in a god right now, you're an atheist

pretty much all atheists are agnostic atheists, if thats what you mean
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>>64948121

>2016
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Just because you dislike something doesn't make it Reddit.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism
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whoever started the fedora meme is god tier, literally everyone on 4chan of all places now pretends to believe in christian god and are good little christian boys just so they can post fedora memes or even just post the word fedora haha
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>>64948121
>faith

Well you don't have boogly bogly which means you're going to die and live in pain in flugleberg for eternity

You can't say I'm wrong cause I have boogly bogly and can FEEL that I'm right
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>>64949096

agnostic atheist is just a newatheist attempt to hide behind glorious based agnosticism.

agnostic and atheist are mutually exclusive.

>>64949106

Don't actively believe in what specifically about God?
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>>64947056
>>64947458
>>64947626
>>64948088


>>64948246

This whole thing where either you're a fundamentalist Christian or fedoratheist meme needs to die. I don't even call myself an atheist, but technically I am, but very rarely even talk about it. There's plenty of middle-ground between the two extremes, and I can't stand either extreme.

Another meme that needs to die? Fucking Reddit being mentioned in every thread. That's not even a meme anymore, it's just cancer.
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>>64949181
You feelin ok?
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>>64949205
this is bait
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>>64949253

That's not a rebuttal.
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>>64949218
>I don't even call myself an atheist, but technically I am

So you don't even have the cajones to own up to it?

Also that one xkcd comic springs to mind right now.
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oh so it's retarded religious fucks who hate this show.

funny thing is, every fedora faggot i know is a Jesus freak and half are bronies too.
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>>64949271
you dont need rebuttals to made up definitions of words

use google you twat
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>>64947056
The first episode is shit unless you get really into the show later.

Basically the entire point is that Rick is a fucking asshole, and just because what he says is arguably true (at least within the universe) doesn't make him right to be the way he is.
Rick is supposed to be someone you hate/feel sorry for.
The show is more about the moment when he for a change tucks it and acts like a human being, than the moments when it is established that he barely is one.
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>>64949338

I don't need to use google, anon. I also haven't made up any definition, nor even provided one.

It's pretty easy to make dumbfuck claims like "hurr belief versus knowledge". It's another thing to back them up through argument.
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>>64949291

>but technically I am

Yeah, I don't own up to it at all!

It's not that. With enough probing you could get it out of me, but it's really just a philosophical thing. I just don't really see the need to label myself around something I don't believe in, which in my mind holds as much validity as any other being that's claimed to exist, it's like calling oneself an acentaurist or some shit. Yeah, technically I'm an acentaurist, but why would I call myself that? Nah. I don't live my life with any of those labels on my sleeve.

Ultimately it doesn't matter, but as I said, it's not something I really talk about or really think about anymore. You can believe what you like, as long as it's separate from the state, INCLUDING atheism. It's a private issue among individuals and organized groups.
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Every pro religion post in this thread was made by me, a clever atheist. >:^)
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>>64947626
You realise you can just repent when you're queuing at Saint Peter?

>Murder 400 people
>Die
>in Purgatory awaiting turn at pearly gates with Saint Peter
>I'm sorry for all my sins god
>You are forgiven my son
>get into heaven

Fucking fool proof, debate me.
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>>64949445
You need to actually be sorry though
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>>64949445

CHECKMATE OTHER CHRISTIANS
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>>64947932
>there are people smart enough to use the Internet and post on a Tibetan numerology message board that ACTUALLY believe this shit
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>>64949445
I'll probably get a deluxe Heaven while you only get the regular Heaven.
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>>64949205
Different Anon, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Agnostic: Believing that god - if there is one (or more) is unknowable, and unboservable.
Atheist: Believing that there exists no such thing as a god.

Wouldn't an Agnostic Atheist be someone who believes that there is no god, but also accept the fact that there is absolutely no way to prove that?
Granted, the way people use this to mean "I'm not sure" is wrong, but in the above sense, Agnostic Atheist should exist.
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>>64947626
>Hell
Is for fallen angels. Anything else is medieval fan fiction.
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>>64949461
Prove i'm not actually sorry when I discover purgatory is real and i'm waiting for saint peter there?

I tell you now, I'd be sorry.

Imagine, atheist all your life, you die, you discover you were wrong and gods real, you saying you wouldn't be truly sorry?
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>>64949508

Here's the OED definition for agnostic.

ag·nos·tic
aɡˈnästik/
noun
1.
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
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>>64949461
>Commit absolute attrocities because god is dead, the universe is a harsh, unforgiving place with no sense of right or wrong
>Die
>Find out, that all along, the universe was infact the careful creation of a god
>Everything you heard in church was true
>The universe does have a moral compass, and you can't blame anyone for breaking that, but your own lack of vision
>Somehow you're not really sorry about it
At that point, you deserve hell
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>>64949493
You wish motherfucker, unless your name is: Gabriel, Raphael or Michael i'll be outranking you in a better heaven as god's first soldier. (according to bibles; archangel names are better.)
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>>64949493
kek
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>I'm a white Christian!

>I dont go to church, I dont follow Jesus, never read the bible, God doesnt exist, all priests are pedos and christians are retarded

Anything more pathetic than europeans?
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>>64949404
>"Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods."
vs
>"An agnostic is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine"

On closer inspection, we find that
"it is a lack of belief in gods"
Is entirely compatible with
"refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine"
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Bojack Horseman is a leagues better show written for actual adults and not 14 year old redditors. Fuck Rick and Morty, this is a Christian board. Don't like it? Well you can fuck right off to reddit
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>>64949568
have you ever been to europe or are you trolling? catholics are the real christians anyways, protestants are a joke
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>>64949573
see
>>64949524

and get rekt
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>>64949524
That seems like two things though, isn't it?
What's the word for the first half then?
It should be possible to believe god is unknowable and unobservable, and still believe in god, since it's literally part of the Christian faith. Should be true for atheists too.
If it's not Agnostic, then what word do you think I'm thinking of?
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>>64949508
An Agnostic Atheist is the one that says there is 99% chance there is no god, but is ready to admit that he'd change his stance if some strong evidence of ones existence would come to light.
A Gnostic Atheist claims to "know" there is no possibility of a god.

An Agnostic Theist believes in god, but is ready to admit that he has little evidence of that fact outside of intuition and faith.
A Gnostic Theist "knows" god exists, might even claim to speak to or for him.

A "pure" agnostic just tends to be a fence sitting faggot.
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>>64949606

It isn't two things. If you believe that the existence of nature of god are unknown and unknowable, then it follows that you claim neither belief nor disbelief in God.

The only atheists who can "lack belief" in god are those who haven't been confronted with the concept, such as infants and retards, or "natural" atheists.
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>>64948088
Gravity hasnt been proven either, doesnt mean it doesnt exist
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>>64949493
You get a few extra channels, big whoop! I'll just torrent anyway.
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>>64949549
>god is dead
No, he's living on the inside roaring like a lion
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>>64949633

There is no legitimate scholarly backing for this newatheist terminology.

There's already "soft", "negative", "implicit". Why can't atheists stop qualifying their dumb fucking belief system?
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>>64949667

God killed himself.
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>>64949508
I think that if god actually exists, then it's probably some cosmic cloud that farts planets and isn't even sentient.
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bunch of christfags up in herr
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>>64947056
>Getting triggered by a cartoon
I didn't expect a higher caliber of man on 4chan
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>>64949596
Im eastern european

The only time anyone admits to being christian is when it's an argument about the jews and the gays, every other time they are atheistic
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>>64949596
Nah, the last true christian died on a cross.
The Catholic church fathers are just revisionist opportunists that interpenetrate and cling to a dead religion to suit their need for power and relative comfort within a system that was meant as a mode of populace control. Protestants were the first step away from that, albeit a misguided one that had a lot of the old mingled with it.
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>>64949590
le depressed wealthy horse who want to be loved meme
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>>64949658
They have SOPA in Heaven.
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>>64949599
>a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God

You can claim neither faith or disbelief in theist principles all you want, but those terms actually ARE mutually exclusive.

If someone says "Do you believe in God or not" you can shove your fingers in your ears and say "I'm an agnostic, I believe it's impossible to know if he exists or not"
That doesn't mean you don't get to answer the question, it just confirms that you don't believe in God.

You either believe in something, or you don't believe in something.

Let's pretend there's a volcano on Mercury called Moot Mountain. You have no way of verifying whether or not it exists short of funding a space programme of your own and going there to find out.

You believe it's impossible currently to know whether or not Moon Mountain exists, but if I say "Moot Mountain exists" do you believe it, or do you not believe it?

Logically, you don't believe it, because you believe that I couldn't possibly know.

Knowledge != Belief
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>>64949709
Teenagers with spiky haircut killed god
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>>64949784
>If someone says "Do you believe in God or not"

I ask them

>believe in what specifically about god?
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>>64949784

Knowledge is a prerequisite for belief. Hence the agnostic, lacking knowledge, cannot make a belief statement.

But hey feel free to take it up with the editors of the Oxford English Dictionary.
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>>64949807
They say "his existence"
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>>64949677
>There is no legitimate scholarly backing for this newatheist terminology.

It's been scholarly since 1903 at the very earliest and isn't newatheist terminology but actual scholarly language which they are more likely to rely on than the "oposing side". You have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>64949829

Then I say I believe the existence and nature of God are unknown and unknowable, therefore I make no belief statement with regards to God.

God may exist, God may not exist. I don't know and can't know.
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>>64949828
Isn't that the book that added "feels", "doge (not the title)", and "fap fap fap" this summer?
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>>64949848

>It's been scholarly since 1903

Then cite it.
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>>64949854
Just pick one bro.
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>>64949873

It's the book that is the definitive record of the English language.

>>64949883

Pick one what?
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>>64947056
>Reddit and Memey
God bless this board

And these dubs
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>not being part of the Gnostic master race

its like you don't understand the real world
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>>64949873
>doge
really? that meme lasted like 4 minutes.
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>>64949874
Read up on Robert Flint, a theologian, not a new atheist.
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>>64949903

Hail Pistis Sophia.
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>>64949897
>God bless this board
You really suck at this.
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>>64949903
Noah was a great movie.
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>>64949929

>theologian
>scholar

No thanks, but feel free to cite the claim you made, specifically. Otherwise fuck off.
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>>64949325
>bronies
huh, they're still a thing?
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The entire notion that the human mind could at all truly comprehend an eternal, omnipotent, universal consciousness - let alone personify it and communicate with it is just beyond unbelievably ridiculous to me.

After being raised very religious and later growing out of it, most organised worship of a deity seems like a very human exercise in ego: always being the "chosen ones" or particularly special amongst their God's children. Not to mention this ego based platform inspires a more divided view of the world, I truly believe religion dissolves people's sense of personal responsibility for the state of their community at large, or even just the human race as a whole.

Organised religion was useful 2000 years ago to bring segregated and warring tribal groups into a more cohesive and functional society, through the use of easily grasped rules and childish parables. These days it only seems to serve as another means to segregate and factionize the human race.

Just my two cents.
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>>64949894
>God
>No God
Under threat of death you are required to choose one answer. No equivocating.
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You are a fucking moron. Satan appears in a later episode.
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>>64949977

Define God.
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>>64949960
Nah, I'm not about to spend any more time educating your ass because I like the thought of you failing at life. But google and read about Robert Flint if you wish to prove me wrong. I'm fucking off regardless.
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>>64949992
No that is not how this exercise works.
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>>64950024

K.

>>64950029

Then I can't possibly answer the question.

>Blarp
>No Blarp
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>>64949977

You'd have to kill me because that's ridiculous. You're asking me to declare something that's unknowable and a subject beyond our scope of understanding or deducing with our limited ape brains.
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>>64949854
You misunderstand the post, I think
> I don't know and can't know.
Knowledge != Belief

>therefore I make no belief statement with regards to God

You're just refusing to answer the question, when the simple truth is that you either qualify as believing in God, or not believing in God. You can't pick some third option of "I maybe believe in God". You either have two legs or you don't.

I believe 100% that I lack the ability to have knowledge on whether or not Moot Mountain exists on Mercury, but that doesn't prevent me from believing it exists.

However, I don't believe it exists. Before you entered this thread, you'd never even heard of Moot Mountain. Did you believe in Moot Mountain before you'd heard of it, regardless of whether you do now?

Obviously you didn't. You can't believe in the existence of something you're completely unaware of, ergo you -didn't believe in it-.

Lack of belief isn't just the opposite of belief, it's the ONLY OTHER OPTION.

You either believe in something, or you don't. Just like you have legs or you don't.
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>>64950061
No Blarp.

Now you go.
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>>64950070
RIP
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I know what you mean, OP. I was watching that Crazy Ex-Girlfriend show and in like the first ep. she attempts to pray and says "I don't pray often because I believe in science."

I'm not religious and this shit doesn't trigger me, but I cringe every time I hear one of these "jokes" in a TV show or film. It's lazy writing. It's like those stand-up jokes who make a standard "god's not real" joke and the whole audience hollers with laughter. It's an easy joke to make and has guaranteed laughs. You may as well be doing some Jeff Dunham shit. It's Big Bang Theory-level of humor.

And what makes it worse is I got to listen to fellow atheists talking about being victimized and how tough it is being an atheist. Shit's retarded. Most atheists have serious victim complex.

Christians can at least make a claim to being victims seeing as 70% of people killed for their faith in this age are Christians. Meanwhile some atheist in the US has to read "in god we trust" on a dollar bill and gets triggered about it. Embarrassing.
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>>64950077

Again, knowledge is a prerequisite for belief. In order to accept a statement as true or valid I need to possess information about that statement, such as the statement itself.

I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post.
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>mfw this whole thread

Quick! Someone make a thread on /co/!
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>>64950078

I think you get my point so I'm good. Without defining something you can't possibly expect me to tell you whether I believe it exists or not.
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>>64948121
>two oh one six
>people still believe in magic sky fairies
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>>64950125
>I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post.
Okay, I'll try and make it succinct for you.

>Again, knowledge is a prerequisite for belief.
Knowledge is not a prerequisite for the absence of belief. You don't believe in things you know nothing about. Do you believe in Ninlil, Sumerian Goddess of the air? Prior to hearing about her of course you didn't, because you lacked the prerequisite knowledge to form a statement confirming your belief in her existence, which is a lack of belief in that particular deity.
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>>64949590
Bojack Horseman is not funny at all.
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>>64950270
>Knowledge is not a prerequisite for the absence of belief.

Once you are confronted with a concept, you no longer are capable having an absence of belief.

The only atheists who lack belief in God are infants and retards or other "natural" atheists who haven't been confronted with the concept.

Self-proclaimed atheists are not absent of belief regarding God's existence.
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>>64949972
Religion will (as far as we can see) be useful in regards to a civilization ALWAYS. We will either continue to slide into materialistic nihilism since from birth we have everything in excess necessary for survival, with more and more people growing depressed and useless, or the pendulum will swing and people in the West will start becoming more religious (or even just use the "I'm not religious but I'm spiritual" meme)

Specifically Christianity / Mormonism, and other very similar religions to Christianity and anything that basically isn't Islam, anything that strengthens family and society and brings people together for a higher purpose is a good thing in terms of keeping society more stable and keeping people ethically certain.

and before the fedoras start tipping I just want to say that I'm a deist who gets along with Christians and atheists, but cannot stand euphoric atheists and hypocritical Christians. Also Islam should be eradicated.
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>>64950338
Batman is real.
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>>64950338
>Once you are confronted with a concept, you no longer are capable having an absence of belief.

You mean in the belief of the concept?

I mean, I believe the concept of God exists, but I don't really believe that a powerful silent supernatural being is responsible for the world as we know it
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>>64949763
>tips fedora
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>>64950403

?

>>64950421

To whatever the concept correlates to.
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>>64950375
>I'm a deist
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>>64950375
>deist

Sup reddit
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>>64950446
>>64950338

So do you believe Superman, the superhero, exists?

You're acquainted with him conceptually, so do you still have an absence of belief in him?

Or Vishnu or Thor for that matter?
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I feel bad for being a Christian and on 4chan but really its the only site that can truly understand it sometimes. I cant explain it. I also am addicted to the anonymous format and have been since I jumped ship from SA in 2008

:(
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>>64950338
>Self-proclaimed atheists are not absent of belief regarding God's existence.

Rational Atheists are. You seem to tilt towards the irrational end.

I don't believe in God -- hence, I lack a belief in God -- for all I know, it could exist; I wouldn't make objective remarks towards its existence because it's nonsensical.

But, whatever helps you tip it, bro.
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>>64950495

No of course I don't believe Superman exists.

Nor do I believe that Yahweh exists.

Nor Allah, Ahura Mazda, Brahma, Odin, or the Great Sky Father.

However I am intrigued by the demiurge, and by pantheistic solipsism, and by deism.
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>>64947056
Well that's the last time I recommend anything to you.
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>>64950535

Rational atheists are a type of self-proclaimed atheist, who has been confronted with the concept and therefore cannot lack belief in the concept.

disbelief != lack of belief
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>>64949181

Like 99% of blacks believe in God. Even the ones that are out on the street gangbanging and selling drugs. I think you'll find that Christians didn't just appear on this board. Plenty of people already believed in a God even if their behavior on this board may not have always suggested it.

Also, I'm pretty sure distaste for liberal degeneracy preceded all this and a lot of channers just hold onto the tradition rather than God himself.
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>>64950557
Didn't you just say that being confronted with a concept eliminates the ability for absence of belief in it?
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>>64950600

Yes. So?
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Summer is pretty much the only likeable character in this show.

The worst bits are without a doubt the arguments between Jerry and Beth.

Practically the same fucking segment every episode.
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>>64950584
>who has been confronted with the concept and therefore cannot lack belief in the concept.
>Disbelief != lack of belief

Partially true m8, but while the terms are different, that doesn't mean that someone exposed to a concept can suddenly not lack belief in it.

I've been exposed to the concept that Hogwarts might secretly exist, but I still lack belief in the existence of Hogwarts.
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>>64950600
>>64950620

Disbelief, i.e. not believing is not the same as lacking belief, i.e. absent of belief.
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>>64950515
>Taking part in this cesspool of sin
You're going to hell.
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>>64950670

It does. Immediately upon confrontation with a concept, you form a belief about it. Either confirmation or denial of existence, or aesthetic judgement...whatever.
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>>64950467
>>64950492
I don't use reddit, I agree deist is sort of a faggy word though, I don't know what the fuck else to call myself, I believe in a higher power that is beyond current understanding.
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>>64950670
>I've been exposed to the concept that Hogwarts might secretly exist, but I still lack belief in the existence of Hogwarts.

No you just disbelieve in the existence of Hogwarts. You have formed a belief regarding Hogwarts, namely that Hogwarts does not exist.
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>>64948725
>4chan used to be leftist as fuck before that was mainstream.
keep saying it

it will never be true you redditor fuck

4chan was anarchy which is as far right as you can go
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>>64950751
this

4chan has always been the far right, just reddit leftys found us
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>>64950804

>4chan has ever been any one thing

It's like you faggots are just tourists.
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>>64949291
>xkcd
Hello, Reddit.
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>>64950710
> Immediately upon confrontation with a concept, you form a belief about it.
If that's the case, agnosticism cannot exist.

Believing that God is unknowable does not shield you from a knowledge of the existence of God conceptually, wherein you must then form, according to yourselves, a belief in whether or not he exists, which is what I've been trying to say this whole time.
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>>64950854

>If that's the case, agnosticism cannot exist.

No, because again, agnosticism is a belief...the belief that the existence and nature of God are unknown and unknowable.
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>>64950751
>4chan was anarchy which is as far right as you can go
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>>64950854

Look, there are concepts of God which I think don't exist. This includes the Christian God.

See
>>64950557
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>>64950913

But that's false. If you acknowledge "God" existing conceptually in your agnostic question, you aren't immune from the paradigm that a belief must be formed on confrontation of a concept just because you think it's impossible to know.
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>>64950916
literally reddit who doesn't know anything about left vs right except when you use it to vilify things that hurt your fee fees

left = control, big government and oppression
right = less control, small government and freedom

absolute left is a dictatorship and an oppressed society and absolute right is no government with the people governing themselves, anarchy

>>64950818
4chan has always been anarchy. keep trying newfag
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>>64950972

A belief has been formed...the belief that the existence and nature of God are unknown and unknowable.
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Hey guys this is a television and film discussion board not a religious discussion board i know it's confusing but at least post dank memes if you're going to shit up a thread alright fellas sheesh :rolleyes:
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>>64950993

>4chan has always been anarchy

Clearly you've never discussed porn on /tv/
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>>64950945

What about the "concept" of the Christian God leads you to believe that?

I'm curious because a monotheistic, spatially/temporally simplistic, transcendent, self-existent concept of God (which Yahweh, Allah, and in many cases Brahma, is) is really the only concept of God that makes logical sense.
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>>64951028
it's the same on every board. that's a good point though. people think anarchy is just wild fucking chaos when the reality is it's just an absence of government. i remember when we used to be able to have a little off topic posting on various boards and it really didn't hurt anyone and probably lightened the mood on the various boards. now the leftist totalitarian mods will close every thread that doesn't have to do with whatever they deem acceptable and people are a lot more hostile toward each other these days. shilling youtube celebs is perfectly acceptable though! get the fuck out of here
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>>64950818
you're the tourist :^)

4chan has always the right

only the memes change year to year

I been here since daily cp threads, no-one calling for mods, sink threads etc etc I lurked for 5 years ffs.
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Oh, just you wait until you get to episode 3 or 4. Outright interracial cuckolding. That's when I reached my limit and reaffirmed my view that all of American media needs to burn.
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Are you a religious man OP?
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>>64947056
Lighten up, you bitch. The show is absolutely ridiculous, and Rick is insane. It's pretty funny, for a modern cartoon. Give it a chance, this advice brought to you by a Christian whose butt isn't hurt.
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>tfw 4chan was atheism fedora central when you first started browsing
What the fuck happened?
Did the Fedora meme really hit that hard?
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>>64952983
just go with it
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>>64947864
Jesus Christ dude. Step away from the computer for a minute
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>>64951470
>Oh, just you wait until you get to episode 3 or 4. Outright interracial cuckolding. That's when I reached my limit and reaffirmed my view that all of American media needs to burn.

Did you acknowledge the fact that the interracial cuckold is literally a joke, and the whole thing is played as Jerry (the typical leftist beta male father figure America is now growing up with, portrayed as an absolutely pathetic simpering shit) can't deal with it even though he's supposed to care about his parents happiness and despite the urging acceptance of his domineering career woman wife?

Have you considered the fact that acknowledging the existence of something to laugh at it and mock it doesn't mean you encourage and support it?
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>>64952983
>4channers felt such a deep need to be cool that they reach for contrarianism in an attempt to look smart and cool to the common pleb by having the alternative viewpoints.

As soon as someone pointed out that atheism was no longer an alternative viewpoint, people started to stop caring about it. Then when they pointed out the kind of fedora-wearers sometimes associated with it, they realised that they weren't cool anymore, and had to swing hard in the opposite direction.
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>>64953571
This is actually what happened and can be applied to the majority of general opinions 4chan holds

I goddamn hate this place
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>>64947341
>mom
>i got over 200 replies again
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>>64950993
>absolute left is a dictatorship and an oppressed society and absolute right is no government with the people governing themselves
Do you actually have an extra chromosome, or is this actually how you think the political spectrum works?
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>People who form their worldview around 4chan memes and culture
I'm convinced this is why /pol/ is a thing
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>>64948725

>4Chan of all places being full of liberal hippy douchebags
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>>64950375

>I need God to have purpose in life

I just wanna see humanity colonise the galaxy and discover aliums
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>>64949218
hello reddit
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>>64947080
This. Just keep watching and don't sperg out.
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>>64947056
first episode is arguably the worst, I hated it too

second is much more indicative of the series

also
> being asshurt about atheism in a cartoon
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>>64948725
Can confirm, came here during the last legs of Chanology, in late '08. Reddit didn't even become an insult until around 2011, when a shitload of them started to come here and shitting up the place. Before that time it was on the same vein as 9gag, a site that took our OC and flanderized it. If you said anything conservative you'd get told to fuck off and this especially included being religious.

It's only after reddit got big and Obama had replaced Bush 2 a couple years that contrarians switched over to being conservitards. Stormfags invading also didn't help. So with all these newfags who disliked the leftist popular attitude and wanting to distance themselves from reddit (not understanding anonymity means not using a role when posting) by making 4chan the opposite hugbox came a revisionist view of things. They hadn't been here that long and they kept seeing JEWS and FEDORA so they assumed that was always the case. These newfags only view things in 2 colors: leftist or conservative. 4chan is supposed to be beyond that, with the topics discussed on their own merits without the constraints of identity. The teens nowadays don't want that.

I came in after I had turned 18, so I don't have that kid mentality of remembering things differently that 15-year-olds do. I remember things objectively and they were about 180° the way they are now. Hell, people have Tom Cruise threads praising him, and anti-Cameron threads. Faggots don't even lurk anymore and don't get told to fuck off to /b/, fuck. Mobile posting was a mistake.
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>that ugly ass lazy basic shapes, flash animation
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>>64947056
Except there is no god, retard.
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>>64954269
>what is raiding sites that take themselves too seriously
>what is protesting richfags
>what is Project Chanology
>what is hating Bush

Just cause you came in within the last couple years (if even that) doesn't make your views fact.
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>>64949491
>there are people smart enough to use the Internet and post on a Tibetan numerology message board that ACTUALLY believe this shit

>there are people who ACTUALLY think it requires any intelligence at all to use the internet and post on 4chan
it might require a lot of tough brainpower for you, champ, but not for the rest of us.
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this show is good you are just fedora-tier faggots
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>>64947056
You are correct in your assessment. It's pretty fedora and edgy, with a sprinkle of le random humor that is typical of adult swim shows. As an atheist I found it double cringey, but I plowed thru because I liked some parts of Community. Second season is where it becomes unwatchable.
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>>64954976
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>>64955660
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>>64951378
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>64947626
It's funny how the fedora tippers will
Jump down your throat to tell you that there is no God but when you tell them they're going to hell they fucking flip their shit and can't handle it, maybe deep down they know it's true
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>>64955749
Spoken like a true redditor.
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>>64947056
Anyone else think that the first episode was 10x than the rest? The show has its moments but it took a nose dive and now is just a soapbox for it's creators.
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>>64947056
>someone exists who disagrees with me
You christfags get butthurt over every little thing that doesn't go your way. Waah, someone made fun of muh jebus. Waah, I don't get to oppress gay people anymore. It's pretty pathetic. No better than feminists getting triggered by videogames.

You'd be better off pointing at all of Rick's negative character traits and calling it a consequence of his atheism or something. I mean it's bullshit, but it's better than just whining and memeing about it.
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>>64948121
Wow you're actually retarded aren't you
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>>64947056
S2E1 Rick thinks that he's doomed and starts praying that God save him
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>>64955738
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>>64949169
Sorry Anon, just like with Apatheism, you're not going to stop the so called "pure agnostics" by showing them alternative words to use for their beliefs. You just have to keep on drilling the actual definition of agnostic into their tiny heads until they finally get it.
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>>64954904

You got it backwards.

>The structure of an imageboard inhibits censorship.
>The people most likely to get censored, congregate to an imageboard.
>Surprise surprise, people who are censored actually have insightful things to state.

When the "Redditors" were no longer censored, they had no need to hang in a Japanese Anime board.
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>>64957033
And yet they're still here to this very day.
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>>64947056
His character is written to be a snarky smartass scientist what the fuck else is he supposed to act like

Do you actually believe in God or something?
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>>64956229
Fedora is not the same as atheist, though it is commonly used to describe a certain type of atheist. You're grasping at one example and making assumptions about the op, when the show is littered with em. The entire Christmas episode is a build up to bloody chunks of giant naked Santa raining all over America. That's as fedora as it gets.
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>>64957708
>Fedora is not the same as atheist

This isn't 2012 anymore, champ. They've become synonymous at this point, you cannot make an atheist argument without some retard going >tips fedora.
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I hate all of you
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>>64957708
I didn't use the word fedora once.
And santa claus isn't a religious symbol.
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>>64947056
You are so fucking pathetic
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>>64957805
>12 year olds on 4chan misusing words means I can too, even though it's obvious what the op is getting at
>champ
You know you have to be 18+ to post here, right?
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>>64948092
Well modern scientist anyways

There's probably still a couple that hold religious beliefs for whatever reason
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>>64958191
Do kids say champ? That sounds like the kind of thing a parent says to a child.
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>>64958191
Words evolve over time, sport. The fedora meme had its inception on this very site, so I think it's okay for it to change to whatever the current users think it means. Butthurt used to mean anger over something small and unimportant, but now it just means anger in general, and I don't think there's anyone autistic enough to still get upset over its misuse anymore.
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>>64947626

>A bloo bloo bloo I listen to a book that's 2000 years old when human culture and spirituality has existed for 40-50,000 years. Clearly this is the right one.

Get fucked, faggot.
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>>64948092
Being a scientist doesn't clash with believing in god.
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>>64958451
It's very strongly correlated.
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>>64958560
Yeah, but still doesn't necessitate atheistm.
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Has anyone else been playing Pocket Mortys? My favourite so far is the double morty because he has a little smile.

>you will never be miami rick
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>>64958629
That literally does not matter in the context of this thread. Scientists tend to be atheists, therefore Rick was chosen to be an atheist during his character design. Can't you argue about how he's too pessimistic and will never feel God's love or something better than this?
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>>64958405
>Butthurt used to mean anger over something small and unimportant
You sound more underage by the second. Pls stop posting before you get b&.
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>>64958629

>le atheism is a religion

No it isn't. Just because it has an -ism doesn't mean shit. It just means you don't believe in good. "A" meaning in absence of, "thiesm" meaning religion. It literally means no religion, you fucking retard.
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>>64958713
>Scientest tend to be atheist, therefor every scientist must be an atheist
is a wrong conclusion though
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>>64958752
>>le atheism is a religion
Whom are you quoting?
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>>64958777
Don't you have a Black Lives Matter protest to be attending somewhere? Clearly you won't stand for any sort of stereotype to propagate itself anywhere in the world, especially in a children's cartoon written by 4channers who smoke weed.
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now its cool to mock the fedora mocking the culture of christfags, pretty soon it'll be cool to mock the "hurr fedora reddit" fags mocking the fedora reddit fags mocking the christfags
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>>64958861
>children's cartoon
wew lad
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>>64958728
You can go ahead and look it up in multiple online dictionaries that show you it has always meant being "needlessly offended."

http://www.yourdictionary.com/butthurt
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ButtHurt
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/butthurt

The only one underage here is you.
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>cartoon show about fart aliens turned into a giant religious discussion by people who have never actually watched it

you guys are missing out on a funny show

thread hidden
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>>64958993
>(slang) Overly annoyed or bothered by a perceived insult; needlessly offended.
>NOW IT JUST MEANS ANGER IN GENERAL

Did you just btfo yourself? TOP KEK. Nice going, squirt :^)
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>>64959331
>>64959331
Massive butthurt
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>>64959331
If you were following the conversation at all you would know I was referring to how people on this site use the word butthurt, not the actual meaning. Nice try, famarino.
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>>64959331
Do you really think you need to win EVERY argument on the internet?
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>>64959451
>>64959514
>>64959572
>so upset he lost his first internet argument he has to resort to samefagging
>y-you too!
Relax, kiddo. I'm just busting your balls. Don't take it so srs.
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>>64959704
>I-I was just pretending to be retarded!
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>>64959704
>hurr durr saemfag :^)
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>>64951378
4chan was never politically correct, but it has mostly swung libertarian instead of any left or right bias. Whether that's left-libertarian or right-libertarian depends on the climate at the time.

When I started on /b/ back in 2006, people would call out Christianity and post Jesus porn, etc. constantly, and "Christfag" was a pretty common insult. 4chan drifting to the right is new, but also unsurprising; it's a reaction to the insane, smarmy bullshit coming from the left these days. But don't forget that during the Bush era, lots of people feared/hated the right for its creeping authoritarianism, in the same way they view the left now.

Generally, whenever a group gains enough power to leverage it for censorship, 4chan will flock to the opposite side. It tends to value free speech above all else; the rest is just swept in with the tide.
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>>64947169
>we

Never use this word here again.
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>>64947056
Rick is so intelligent and been through so much shit that he's gone nihilistic. What do you expect from a man who has become a god?
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>>64962391
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>>64947626
this IS hell you fucking idiot
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>>64947056
>fedora shit
Is this honestly what faggots think of not being christian?
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>>64958631
Bubblegum Rick is best Rick
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>>64947169

>we

You tell him, anon.
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