>70s - mustache and chest hair
>80s - mullet and square jaw
>90s - any athletic body type, just not obese
>00s - zero fat, some muscles, no hair
>10s - bodybuilder body, six-pack abs is obligatory
What happened, lads?
Women don't care whether you take roids or not, they just want to see alphas
So when they see a shitload of steroid guys in public they think "oh that's natural" then they expect the guys on TV to be more fit than them
The truth is nobody cares about your health so they dont care if theres a negative from hgh or roids
There's a huge percentage of people who think the Rock is natty
They think that's possible naturally. They think that's how an alpha male natural man can look with dedication and genetics.
And they're always going to think that because they're not going to become smarter.
>emancipation of women makes them able to provide for themselves
>therefore a male's capability to provide becomes less important and is no longer the defining trait of his masculinity
>when real masculinity is no longer important the symbols of masculinity become more important
>having a beard and muscles and tattoos is now considered manly even if you're an unemployed bitch living with your mother
>men realise this and basically become whores who know all they have to do is look pretty
>men now enter the same arms race women always have, trying to look prettier than the next man since it's the one thing that gets you a woman
>men are now competing for prettiness so the standards are going up
tl;dr we're all bitches now
And in the meantime men's standards are getting lowered and lowered, to the point where a completely average/ugly person like Daisy Ridley or Maisie Williams is seen as genuinely beautiful
RIP western society we won't miss you that much
at least the girls stop having big fake plastic tits look at how the same has happened to women.
>tfw blasting roids
>tfw its the only way to keep up made more gains in 2 months than i did in a whole year if training
when will you guys realize every male that girls want to fuck blasts Test & Tren all year around?
RIP my liver/kidneys ect.. sad all a girl has to do is not eat & with all the hormones in the food now they develop faster than ever shits rigged.
got laid as a natty ofc even when i was 15% bf now i walk around at about 9-11% huge difference now on roids just in size in general.
i still look small compared to bros that been blasting for years ofc but i look a shit ton better now on roids than i was natty ofc.
there is 4 tiers for guys pretty much
>ugly or fat fucks that wont get laid
>Natty guy with good face that could get a solid gf
>Average guy on Juice with a good face that picks up club sluts can almost have any girl he wants wont find girls a challenge
>Chad that fucks other female chads & fucks your favorite waifu
gotta aim for that 1% brehs gl
The most desirable body type is Brad Pitt's body in Fight Club.Which is perfectly achievable in 6 months-1 year(depending on your starting level) with standard diet(aka not stuffing your face with McD,Doritos and Mountain Dew). Stop making excuses.
>(depending on your starting level)
Unless you're fat, you've ever been fat, you have any physical problems, you don't have the same great natural genetics, etc. Oh yeah and Tren and Clen.
Yes and no. Most of how good Pitt looks in Fight Club is just low BF% and having a very naturally aesthetically pleasing frame.
Your average schmo off the street won't look like that, even with a lot of work.
Shit, The last good batman film was over 10 years ago.
bodybuilding and roid culture became a thing, you can thank this guy
For your self confidence, not the girls.
They don't want body builders, insecure men went that. Otter mode is best, but confidence, being tall, being handsome and being funny is way more important.
thats just stupid and untrue
actors only need to be body builders for the roles they are in, because they are fucking action stars
applying movie logic to real world is retarded and autistic thing to do
also men don't "become whores" and they do not have the "same arms race women always have"
men pretty much just fuck tons of women if they are attractive and 6 foot+ tall
women still are delusional sluts who pretend they werent just creampied by their boyfriend 50 minutes ago when they are walking around with uggz, yoga pants, and slut whore hoop earrings pretending they are some untouchable goddess
men are still very much not giving a fuck about perception and confidence still solely can be used to get laid, and social skills matter way more than looks
if youre attractive you wont get laid automatically, youll get your foot in the door, if your sociable and friendly, youll get laid everyday of the week
reverse applies to women and nobody fucking cares what a woman has to say and they are only objectified so its definitely not the same as men, and will never be, nobody cares
Sure, confidence can still get you laid, but look at the amount of lads going to the gym these days and grooming their body hair and obsessing about their appearance and using skin creams and all that shit. It's much more rampant than before.
Being sociable is always important, but looks have become increasingly important in the sense that men are doing more to look better.
This is true for both film and real life.
You just confirmed what i said.You don't even need to become a gymrat,you just need to have an active lifestyle and decent diet(which is what most doctors recommend btw) and you can have his physique in the time frame that i mentioned.You won't have his face,but i'm sure there are men who are more handsome than Brad Pitt.
In addition to looking good yes, that and health is why I work out. Grills are like 1/4 to a 1/3rd of why I lift. At most.
5'10' I'm average height here.
I have a nice face so it's aight
Kind of a dork but confident. Most grills just want you to listen to their bs.
People make their first judgement based on looks, so muscles count senpai. Not looking natty just some decent definition.
keeping 90s standards still get you laid, so I can't complain I even kept the stache after movember and it hasn't been a problem f︂︂am
>10s - bodybuilder body, six pack abs is obligatory
No not really, the sixpack abs perhaps, but not a body builder body by noo means.
Lumbersexual guys are as in as ever and even nerdy skinny guys are considered attractive. Being fat, having acne and a neckbeard will never be in though
All the people I know who have a girlfriend are pretty normal dudes.
Just don't be fat, practice good hygiene, don't be under 5'3", and you're probably good to go. Don't worry about whats on tv and film.
Men started trying to be what women said they wanted, rather than being what women actually wanted.
Now women are permanently unhappy because their magazines tell them they should be attracted to effeminate boy-men while their instincts tell then they want the dad dick.
And men gave up riding the rollercoaster for a whiff of frigid pussy, so they either spend all their time in the gym or playing videogames.
no bitch that minimal amount of muscle with <10% bf is still roids, he simply didn't work out that much so he got to keep a thin tiny frame with small musculature that looks bigger and 'popping' from the thinning agents
he pretty much said that afterwards he was all fucked up around the time he went into jennifer aniston shit (probably hormonal imbalance and deppression)
god i forget sometimes what a sniveling cuck he is sucking up to women
>it's so hard being women
>is a 40yo virgin finally married to a used up whore who gave her best pussy to 20 others to blast their balls on her and sour her pussy with their cum
yeah also this
hugh jackman or any dude doing shirtless scenes are literally kililng themselves for that one day of shooting, dehydrate themselves, put make up on the muscles, lighting, a bit of oil, pump up and work out before the take and finish the day pretty much on the verge of passing out
What you people are completely oblivious about is the fact that women still find bodies like >>64945162 and >>64947872 hot
of course you wouldn't know this since you don't intaract with women in any way
katja kassin, carmella bing, kelly devine pre-boobjob are all average-to-fat whores who men bust nuts over
men's tastes in what makes them lust-drunk are varied, women's are the same greek-god body (maybe upwards of more muscle and rapey power fantasies)
he did but he might do one more. It must be exhausting having to be almost 50 and be at Rock-levels of roids and 2 daily superheavy workouts all week
but he'll still have to take test from now on even off-wolverine
>tfw when all the estrogen poisoning from aromatized test after stop taking makes you want to kill yourself
being flabby is more alpha than being ripped when you have money and social status to be honest
it has that 'i can afford not to give a fuck' vibe to it
>>>tfw hugh jackman will always have to take roids from now on
So? That's perfectly normal, everyone has to take TRT after 35 or so anyway if they don't want to look like a fat woman. So might as well take it before when it actually matters.
I thought I was browsing /tv/ not fucking /r9k/. This entire thread reeks of virginity and underage faggots
Yep. Leo learned that from based Jack. Nicholson was never once in really great shape his entire career and he's fucked thousands of gorgeous women.
Only basic bitches want bodybuilders.
Most women are intimidated or put off by roid heads as they can see they are vain airheads.
Here in Bongistan most women I've asked are very attracted to Cumberbatch. That's right. Why? Because he is calm, collected, deep voice and tall.
These are the qualities that women look for, that determine how alpha you are. Roided up manlets with chips on their shoulders are not seen in the same light.
Yes, Leo is another one. Gut out, not fucks given, still has a harem.
Leo really is alpha as fuck. Unless he has to go to an awards ceremony, the guy is always in comfy ball caps, polos, cargo shorts and sandals. For anyone else it would be embarrassing to be dressing like a frat bro at 40 but he pulls it off.
How would you know what its like to browse /r9k/?
>Because he is calm, collected, deep voice and tall.
it's because sherlock is a sociopath disparaging of others and constantly above them and in control to the point he's almost toying with their feelings
Not that guy, but seeing this shit makes me choke with laughter. It's so fucking ironic
"men" who whine about how unfair life is because Chad Thundercock gets to bang their highschool crush aren't men. They're whiny children who throw a tantrum because they don't get everything handed to them in a silver plate. They actually think like Mr. Supreme Gentleman, but they just disguise all that insecurity under "i-if I g-get muscles girls will surely like me!"
/fit/ is fucking pathetic when it comes to this. And whenever you point out how they're acting like a bunch of women they just go "hurr tumblr, go away tumblrina". Pathetic beta bitches like this entire thread make the rest of us men look bad. It's just so ironic how these fuccbois always cry about how masculinity is dead, but then go and whine because they need to work on themselves to attract good looking women. Even more ironic is that they do all this shit JUST to get laid, instead of doing it for themselves
the rare worker amongst thousands who looked like that and still they exagerated the features
(not to mention the enviroment wasnt as filled with estrogen poisoning and fatass fuckery as the world we live in today)
So if some fat spolied son of a billionaire was able to fuck 10/10 sluts only because he has money, hes alpha?
That makes the term lose all relevence imo senpai.
If leo or any beer gut havinng smuck was able to bang those models without the money and fame, then hes alpha.
Let me quote my former post:
>being flabby is more alpha than being ripped when you have money and social status to be honest
>it has that 'i can afford not to give a fuck' vibe to it
The entire point is that he is a 'gross ass neckbeard' because he can afford to be.
>get told that complaining about hard work is for women and kids
>lol ok tumblrina xD
I'd seriously urge you to reconsider your life choices. From your pathetic beta posts alone I can tell you're one of those "enlightened" retards who found /fit/ 4 months ago and thinks that just because he does SS that he's working hard. Did you also know the average poster on /fit/ can't even bench 2plate? Fucking pathetic
Well what I mean is he realized that he doesn't need ripped abs to be able to bang 22 year old models. Leo seems like he'd be a lot more fun to party with than Efron or Taylor Lautner for example.
>dyel betas bitching about beauty standards like women instead of hitting the gym and being a fucking sik cunt
Victoria Coren played poker.
Poker is male dominated.
How many men do you think she fucked? In her biography she says she was an ugly schoolgirl who went to an all girl's school, so you just know she was sexually repressed.
>TONIGHT WE DINE IN ARBIES
Its really satisfying seeing the fall of a steroid bitch. When Arnie falls itll be a good day. I dont care that he was successful, all his success is built off his roids.
If he doesnt take roid money he doesnt become a fitness salesman, no acting, no bb, no politics, etc.
An entire house of cards built on drugs.
>Here in Bongistan most women I've asked are very attracted to Cumberbatch. That's right. Why? Because he is calm, collected, deep voice and tall.
>These are the qualities that women look for, that determine how alpha you are. Roided up manlets with chips on their shoulders are not seen in the same light.
You are mistakeningly believing what they say is what they believe or do.
They don't admit the buff guy they used to give head to for fun cause it'll bring shame to them.
You need to learn a lot more about women before you start trying to convince me athletes get laid less than nobodies who look awkward.
They would fuck Bernanrd Cumvbuuguabt, but only because he has fame and social status. If he were an IT basement worker he'd be fucked. But if Brad Pitt were an IT basement worker he'd get laid, so would any athlete.
Here is the truth - women don't know what is physically attractive in men. They're incapable of basic aesthetic judgements. The Golden Ratio to them is a restaurant.
Gay men, however, know what is aesthetically pleasing in men, which is something like this. Gay men took over women's magazines and started setting the agenda for what is handsome. Women, being herd animals, followed along.
Simply put, if all magazine's tomorrow were to suddenly say "A man who is fat with dingleberries is the new hot", women would go out and fuck fat men with dingleberries.
and by logical extension you think it was common for women to look like greek goddesses? yet there's so few today despite all we know about health
perhaps they were exaggerating features, no?
how come all these greek gods disappeared once cameras were invented? how come they only re-appeared when steroids came about?
She is a hag, who likely fucked loads of poker players in her youth in order to get a leg up in tournaments. What, do you think being good at poker gets you into tournaments? AHAHAHAHA
Cultural indoctrination only goes so far, the mammalian and reptilian brain still want to fuck what it knows is an attractive mate.
That fat ugly guy in your example could be an attractive mate if he were deemed to have social status via being in magazines.
The fit guy would still get laid.
i cured myself after 12 years of the shit
i had to do a number of things which were all aimed at increasing my confidence
you lack confidence
so here goes
get a body you respect an women want and men hate cause you could btfo them
become an expert at a tangible skill you can monetize
instead of having constant irrational negative thoughts replace them with constant irrational positive thoughts, thoughts so absurd it'd be 0.00001% they would happen, but your mind will believe them and feel good
that's about it. it's all about increasing your actual confidence, no fake it till you make it bullshit confidence that can collapse under scrutiny. you need a solid base you can be like, fuck yeah i kick ass, fuck these bitches
also ghost negative people in your life. i stopped talking to like 100 people and they kept ringing for ~10 months but then they gave up
i now kickass socially (when I want to, i prefer not to go out unless its purposeful eg i can gain something from someone) but i used to be agoraphobic and didnt leave my house for 1.5 years at one point. would vomit when i did.
i am >>64953735 and i always felt that way.
because i thought i was ugly and inferior. maybe i was. i had very bad acne in hs and it stayed not great until i figured out my perfect skin regime for myself, now i have above average clear normie skin.
for that i recommend:
bamboo bedsheets because they are antibacterial
clean them once a week, no big deal
dust your room
get vitamin d
take fish oil
at night use a gentle cleanser, wash off, then use a bentonite clay mask, wash off, then apply aloe vera gel, sleep, have a shower in the morning and just wash your face with water. i used to do this in the morning but it would make my face red during the day and that is not what we want.
also avoid sugars and carbs that inflame skin.
then after your skins in good shape, get your body in good shape, wear nice fited clothes, smell nice.
congratulations now you feel confident speaking to class because you're better looking than most of the guys there and instead of feeling inferior you make people feel bad by existing
Yeah, I'm terrible at directly addressing crowds of people too but doing acting and improv did help me get over a lot of my insecurities. You're on stage in front of people but you're not directly addressing the audience, just the other actors.
"w-w-well i'm such an unmanly stuffy nerd, victoria, you have all the right to demean and poke me like the strong woman you are with all the challenges you face, i really have no right to come near your past, of course heh"
it doesn't get much better than this. weights and training sucks ass unless you actually enjoy doing it. those people do exist, and i envy them that their hobby has all kinds of social and personal benefits. for anyone else, it's work not fun. i can only be motivated to work out just enough to not weigh over 200 lbs at 6'0
Perhaps you should stop hanging around homosexual men. Women in the 10s have been very welcoming of the "dadbod." I should know; I have one.
I mostly have mediocre teeth as well as being skinny (125lbs). I used to have a lot of acne when I was younger, but thankfully it's gotten better since I've entered my 20s.
Would you recommend any books/textbooks on the matter? Any specific techniques you used?
I see plenty of slightly chubby guys with hot gfs on my campus. I'm sure someone claim that they're all fucking ripped Chads on the side but I'm just saying I see it all the time.
hes saying it isnt without cutting agents and starving yourself and fucking your shit up
guys dont walk around like that and sustain muscle mass for very long. its what we in the biz call movie magic.
>"God, all ind*pendent wom*n have to do is not be fat whales. Men have to work so hard to appeal to these bitches"
>photo of beloved female celebrity with the best personal trainers in the country, top-tier invisible surgery, expensive professional stylists and makeup artists gets posted
>"lmao ugly ass bitch 0/10 would not bang"
what would you do if you had a son and he was a manlet?
Ever since my brother and his gf left for Denmark, they've started to preach on about "healthy lifestyle" and "eating well" to absurd levels. I've seen them bash a guy in his late 30s that also exercises a lot for "not having the body he deserves" because he had a little tummy [despite that his body looks like Val Kilmer's in Batman]. Like Jesus Christ, the guy's perfectly healthy and he's very fit for someone of his age, he doesn't need to be told that he doesn't try hard enough.
Nah, it wasn't like SJWs ripping people for invented problems, but they were still giving him stick for not eating "right". They keep trying to make fun of me for having 75 kilos at 170cm but I don't give a shit. After being severely underweight for most of my life [I even weighed below 50 kilos at this height ffs] i couldn't care less about getting fat.
im not that other anon
but im a failure on pretty much every level compared to my father but luckily all my parents friends kids are also failures but also criminals that hate them. im well behaved and i appreciative of being carried through life
i have zero charisma and i am an uninteresting, unlovable loser. i don't know what to do. i already look fine and i know it but i cant get anyone to like my personality, especially not myself.
>i have zero charisma and i am an uninteresting, unlovable loser
>i cant get anyone to like my personality, especially not myself
stop saying shit like this. seriously. no one likes the guy who thinks he's a piece of shit. you're not a piece of shit, but constantly reminding yourself that you are makes you look like one. even just posting it on 4chan still reinforces your own negative mental attitude. stop that shit, you fucking retard.
What happened is that in the 80s I was a 10, in the 90s I was an 8, in the 00s a 6 and now I'm only a fucking 5 at best. And my body barely changed (I got older of course, but my body type remained consistent). FUCK THIS SHIT.
'not eating' would just make her hungry skellington mode. She works out.
Women also need to slap on makeup, shave everywhere...honestly acting like men have it worse here really is bullshit.
The girls you think aren't wearing makeup, are just wearing small amounts. It's so normalised for women to wear makeup that the absence of it is notable.
And when's the last time you met a woman with unshaved legs or pits?
I know what "no makeup" makeup is, I'm not retarded.
And what does meeting a woman with unshaved legs or pits have to do with it being something that they "need to do"? I can't help if they're fucking morons.
To look "good" is to conform to the common beauty perception. Our common beauty perception involves women having shaved legs and armpits.
Therefore looking good as a woman requires shaving your legs and armpits.
>Women in the 10s have been very welcoming of the "dadbod." I should know; I have one.
>it's called being a beta provider.
Call me "beta" if you like, sport, but the only thing they asked me to provide was the D.
I suppose that you are vexed now.
It's pretty well known that sculptures exaggerated features to make them stand out as more-then-men, as god-like, impossible beings. They wanted to show the world that they had the fittest, best soldiers.
>if you make fun of women for being fat
>uhhhh muuuhhh soggynee
>make fun of balding guy
>wow haha xD that's embarrassing! You call yourself a man?
>completely socially acceptable
>have to work out to keep up
>have to try to be funny
Women have it easier. Balding women have it the worst though.
>5'10 I'm average height here
manlet pls go
Same thing that happened to everything else in Western culture: generation x, raised by tv and little else, viewed all of society as a plastic wrapped commodity.
Your men will be 3% body fat gods, your women will claim anything they do is empowering. Your music and movies will be made by a computer, but don't worry, you won't have to get any smarter: we'll just dumb things down so everyone can do it!
What, we're churning out the same shit over and over again for 25 years? Who cares?
Fuck shaving, I shaved my head for the first time last week, it's an agonizing experience. It's so uncomfortable, you feel like your brain is sticking out of your skull. You can cut yourself way too easily and shit takes forever to heal, plus it's so easy to miss spots.
I trim it down once a week but even that gets bad near those last day or two.
>i don't know what to do.
Socialise more. Find diversified activities which require face to face interaction and spend all your free time on them over and over. This is similar to bodybuilding. To gain your social strength you need exercising just like with muscles. Set goals and keep track of the things you done, for measuring progress and self-disciplining. Expect this to be very hard work for you because you have low start position.
>David Actively pursues her for years
>She turns him down multiple times (and has said so on multiple inteviews) so she can chase hot young cock
>She's eventually fucked so many guys she's eventually sated and then looks back at Mr safe who is still worshipping her.
Not saying I wouldn't but it was pretty darn sad
There's no way some fat neckbeard hedge fund manager could pull chicks like this. I mean, yeah he would still have whores circling him, but definitely not the same caliber.
Leo is more than just money. He's connections. He's fun. Also probably charisma.
We're all cucks here. There's no getting out.
the thing about faking confidence is spot on. Fake it. Pretend you are the most confident person ever and make ridiculously grand and arrogant statements. Eventually the confidence will stop being fake. Don't say no to thing and jump at every opportunity. It will get better.