happiness is nibanna
how to reach nibanna ? in meditating to calm the mind, THEN ENQUIRY and observe the impersonality, the impermanence and therefore the impertinence of what you sensate. This destroys cravings and your deluded visions of self and permanence.
He probably regrets not staying with this qt
It made me laugh, considering the irony that he died eating food but getting no nourishment, in the same way he lived experiencing life but not getting anything out of it.
I love, love, love it when pampered silver spoons meet the real world.
The real question is why this film, and particularly the guy himself trigger you people so much.
Why is it so bad if someone even tries to live differently? Why all the scorn, the hate and the lels?
Because he had a family you dipshit.
How hard is it to leave a note?
There are millions of people who go camping. You don't let your family think you're dead.
The only reason he didn't tell his family was because his mother would bitch at him for like five minutes before be left or he might have to endure a two minute phone call. He put ridiculous amounts of grief on his family to avoid minor responsibilities. Also if he'd have let authorities know where he was and regularly kept contact he wouldn't have died, but he autistically searched for muh perfect isolation no contact at all ever I can do this even though I have literally no experience.
I like the film and I don't think it was condoning him, but he's not just living his life different, he's a cunt.
He could have given to the guy who drove him the fuck out there.
Or anyone. A random mailbox on the way in.
This act is symbolic of everything this little mewling afterbirth was about.
Because he was sick and tired of 'normal' life. He wanted to live in the wild. He was too stupid to actually figure out how to do it, though. Doesnt make it a suicide.
You're just arguing for the sake of arguing. It isn't a suicide, it's that simple, you're retarded.
It was required reading at my high school. I liked it then. Then I read it again in my 20's. It's laughable.
That's the case with most people who like On The Road. It's like the only book they've ever read.
>yfw you realise Sean Penn made this movie as a metaphor for his self-imposed suicide by nature when he took on the most powerful man in South America
He was just saying goodbye to us in metaphor.
So he intentionally put himself in a situation where he could not survive, but didn't want to die?
Bunch of muppets in this thread who have no idea what Chris did or intended on doing.
A 20 year old kid setting off to find himself, donated more to charity than anyone in this thread, fucked up but lead a tremendous adventure until the very end... somehow he's a cunt?
Jesus christ the neckbeards are annoying.
>who have no idea what Chris did
He did literally nothing other than die. I don't particularly care if some random dude wants to run out into the wilderness, but to act as if he accomplished anything is foolish.
>donated more to charity than anyone in this thread
Who cares? Donating to charity does not make you a good person - the money was worthless to him anyways.
>lead a tremendous adventure
Sitting in a bus and gathering berries is a "tremendous adventure"?
Anyways, stop acting as if you knew him personally you faggot.
total digression. We're discussing his intentions and character, not the nature of corruption in charities. Oxfam is one of the better ones anyway.
>He did literally nothing other than die. I don't particularly care if some random dude wants to run out into the wilderness, but to act as if he accomplished anything is foolish.
He adventured. You do realize that, right? Hiking, kayaking, scrambling, camping, touching lives, hitching, etc. That's an adventure. That's something in and of itself.
>Who cares? Donating to charity does not make you a good person - the money was worthless to him anyways.
It makes his intentions more pure than those out-of-shape virgins sniping at him 20+ years after his death, faggot.
>Sitting in a bus and gathering berries is a "tremendous adventure"?
Way to ignore every other thing about his path to that point, and even what he did in Alaska. Hunting, gathering, starting fires, fishing, etc. That's a fucking adventure.
I like what the guy did because I'm too much of a pussy to do it. I respect how simply and easily he gave up worldly possessions.
The only theories to his death are that he ate one of several types of poison that all had essentially the same effect. He was poisoned. The only debatable thing is which plant in particular he gorged on.
>That's a fucking adventure
Uh, no, it's camping - something you can do safely and responsibly without the risk of death. The fact that he died does not automatically make what he did adventurous.
Anyways, your whole post reeks of projection. I'm sorry your life is so banal that you think going on a hike is a grand expedition.
Plenty of people do this. There is nothing special about camping.
Everyone does this daily.
What does this even mean?
You can't take a multidimensional experience and only consider its final portion.
The journey, not the destination - and all that.
I don't think anyone disagrees that he died in a shitty way, in a foreseeable way, in a regrettable way. That doesn't make him a bad person, it makes him a kid. I was a shit-head when I was 22, I probably couldn't live on my own for 1 month, much less over a year.
Survivalism is more than camping. If you've done it you'd understand. It's a personal journey when you're by yourself, it's a form of meditation.
It's the antithesis of what most of us do: watching events with detached bemusement.
>In the book Into the Wild, Jon Krakauer suggested two factors may have contributed to McCandless's death. First, he offered that McCandless was running the risk of a phenomenon known as "rabbit starvation" due to increased activity, compared with the leanness of the game he was hunting.
>an article in the September 2007 issue of Men's Journal by Matthew Powers states that extensive laboratory testing showed there were no toxins or alkaloids present in the H. alpinum seeds McCandless had been eating. Dr. Thomas Clausen, the chair of the chemistry and biochemistry department at UAF said "I tore that plant apart. There were no toxins. No alkaloids. I'd eat it myself". Analysis of the wild sweet peas, given as the cause of McCandless' death in Into the Wild, found no toxic compounds and there is not a single account in modern medical literature of anyone being poisoned by this species of plant. As Powers put it: "He didn't find a way out of the bush, couldn't catch enough food to survive, and simply starved to death".
He could have been poisoned, or he could have starved or died of malnutrition.
>dying for no reason when you have friends/family who care about you doesn't make you a bad person
Because the post I responded to said that the "only" theories about his death were related to poison, and those are two theories that aren't related to poison. Maybe you should learn how to read
He was young and angsty, he never intended on dying - dying accidentally doesn't make anyone a bad person.
He had just graduated college, he was in his very early 20s with you muppet. And survived with barely any money to his name for over a year and in the wild.
I play some videogames, live very comfortably and watch too much shit. Going into the wild alone is terrifying, takes real character to do it.
He burned like a few hundred bucks, he gave 20,000 to charity. He had no problems to run away from, he was running to 'find himself'. However misguided that is. Still doesn't make him a bad person.
>I respect how simply and easily he gave up worldly possessions
Your worldview is hideously skewed. Some kid who went out without any experience, poisoned himself, and starved to death. That kind of insane wonton irresponsibility while shitting all over the other human beings in his family does not warrant any kind of "respect".
You need to get your head out of the fucking clouds already.
No one can properly criticize the kid's character - they just end up projecting their own insecurities and flaws up onto him.
Again: He did MORE than (mistakenly) poisoning himself. He did a lot more. In that one or so year he was away he saw things, did activities, made decisions that required more from him than nearly any of us have given in all our lives.
You're the one who is skewed here - refusing to acknowledge 4/5ths of his adventure, the nature and aspects of it, the sheer impressiveness of it all in a pre-electronic, pre-gps, pre-cell phone age. With no credit card and no car even.
>just graduated college
So then he was an adult man, wasn't he? It's not like he was a kid in the wild.
He went to Alaska when he was 24. Mid 20's.
>And survived with barely any money to his name for over a year and in the wild.
No he didn't. He was never in the wild for longer than a season.
>he gave 20,000 to charity
> He had no problems to run away from
Of course he did. He was homosexual and his family wanted nothing to do with it.
>dying accidentally doesn't make anyone a bad person
>father of two, expecting another child
>recklessly climb a rockface without any restraints and fall to my death
>my children are left to grow up without a father, and my wife is widowed
>DOESN'T MEAN I'M A BAD PERSON
>he saw things
snow? trees? rocks?
huddling in a bus? picking poisonous potatoes?
decisions that killed him
>required more from him than nearly any of us have given in all our lives
>implying we are all sad pathetic losers like you
I mean, I'm pretty much never happy, but I still had a good kek at the extreme edge of this post.
Pic related you probably look like him.
>dying accidentally doesn't make anyone a bad person
when you cause the "accident" with your own recklessness and stupidity, and you have a family, then yea, it does make you a bad person
He wasn't a father and had no dependents. False equivalence - you're done here.
He left when he was a kid and was away from home for ~2 years.
>snow? trees? rocks?
>huddling in a bus? picking poisonous potatoes?
Implying he didn't do more than that, in other places, for months before going to Alaska.
Implying every person who met him didn't like him and respect him.
God you're lame.
Everybody, even he, acknowledges that he was reckless in leaving. Maybe that's because he was young and immature. Maybe that's not because he's a bad person according to the weeaboo on a malaysian incest cartoon board.
>No he didn't. He drove his car around the southwest in his early 20's. 22-24. 1990.
How is that any less impressive? With minimal money, no luxuries and completely alone it's a great adventure, which is what I'm arguing here.
he had a family you edgelord retard. i know you're probably still around the age where you hate your mom and dad but parents tend not to like it when their kids run off and kill themselves (after maliciously abandoning all contact with them for months)
>he was just a boy! he dindu nuffin!
guess that explains why all kids run into the wilderness to die. oh wait
Not really. He had people who loved and cared about him and he spat in their face. He's a piece of shit and so are you for defending him
it was a few hundred bucks, he gave away his massive trust fund
I'm in my late 20s, moron. I have a family who love me. I also have the capability to empathise with his motivations and not conflate his mistakes with his character - which everybody who ACTUALLY KNEW HIM said was great and respectable. Even his parents and sister.
He didn't intend on dying, he just wanted to get away. That's the point. If you can't, or refuse, to understand that - well you're a fucking muppet, probably insecure and inexperienced.
More impressive than jerking off to jessica chastain's feet twice a night
You're wrong. Try it: kill yourself and no one will find out for weeks.
>You're wrong. Try it: kill yourself and no one will find out for weeks.
>literally typing utter nonsense to try and be edgy
wew lad, how long were you saving that kill yourself "joke"? get over yourself
>This explains it.
Yeah, sure it does.
Look - I've backpacked, couchsurfed, hiked and stuff. I understand the draw. He did more than I ever did, and in a much less safe way (no gps, phone, internet, etc.) and I'm personally impressed by that aspect.
I couldn't care less that he didn't call home, he was angsty and passionate and it manifested itself in whatever ways it did. Everyone who knew him give him all the credit in the world for his heart and character. I'll take their word for it over you basement dwellers.
Just came naturally, friendo.
>impressed by doing a fairly mundane thing in a reckless manner
>I grew up doing what McCandless did
Running around in the woods behind your house and getting lost for an hour and a half does not count as "doing the kind of shit McCandless did"
I was a virgin until I was 19, when I started going to film school at SCC (Scottsdale). I won a Student Academy Award for my work there; lost my virginity to a really fat 40 -year old woman I met on a phone chat line called LiveLinks.
He tried to find himself, and unfortunately died doing so. Whether he died alone in nature or driving down a busy highway, it doesn't fucking matter. All you tards arguing about how he committed suicide or how he wasnt prepared in nature didn't understand the movie. It was a journey to find himself, his journey took him to Alaska. Other peoples journeys maybe involve a vacation or something else. People are different. And in the end he finally found himself, and what his OWN happiness was, and that was around others and sharing that happiness together.
Someone actually told me this movie would be life changing. The whole "Money doesn't buy happiness" or something. Bullshit, it's pointless materialism that doesn't get you happiness. Money gets you to places.
The guy was some kind of proto-neet. He was a Reagan supporter, claimed to hate everyone except the people he actually took the chance to know. No way his parents would of let him waste away in their basement so he traveled the world in search of another kind of den. He might have thought nature and survival would be his entertainment.
Despite all that I still respect him in some ways.
>It made me laugh, considering the irony that he died eating food but getting no nourishment, in the same way he lived experiencing life but not getting anything out of it.
They don't know for sure what killed him. The current leading theory is that he ate a plant known as grasspea that rapidly causes leg paralysis in young men without much fat.
His diary entry says that after eating wild potato seeds he was unable to walk