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Hollywood liberals STILL butthurt about McCarthy: the movie

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Hollywood liberals STILL butthurt about McCarthy: the movie
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>>64890695
What's funny is McCarthy was completely right about communism infiltrating our country. It came in through Hollywood, and now 95% of colleges hold cultural marxist/liberal/communist views. McCarthy should've executed them desu.
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>that video of Elia Kazan receiving an honourary Oscar and half the smug self-satisfied liberals in the audience refuse to clap

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YziNNCZeNs
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>>64890931
this to be honest my senpie
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Why do you insist on using the word liberal as an insult? Isn't it a compliment to be a liberal? I mean, the party that's been in the white house for the past 8 years has been liberal, and the party that will be in the white house the next 4 will also be liberal. Why not be on the winning side?

t. Quentin
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>>64890931
He was right and wrong at the same time. He openly declared that Soviet agents and Commie sympathizers embedded themselves in our nation, but he had no fucking clue who they were.

I hate Communism with a passion, but McCarthy did more harm than good. The same with the HUAC and the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. I'd rather that government agents collected evidence in secret that have these spectacles out in the open. If there's actual proof, then you deal with American traitors that way.
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>>64890931
McCarthy was way ahead of his time and saw the final nail way before the tree was cut down to even build the coffin.
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>>64890695
>jews ever letting go of the past
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>>64892911
and that's why hateful 8 fell flat, you autistic cunt.
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>>64893176
But Quentin pandered to the SJW liberals by:
>killing the Confederate general
>making the general's suck suck BBC

What more do you want?!
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>>64892721
it looked to me like all the liberals are clapping and all the conservatives were holding applause.
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>>64893243
Confederates were for slavery and the democrats and slavery is the opposite of freedom

I thought Conservatives liked freedom???
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>>64890931
This tbqh.
Trumbo was also one of the scummiest pieces of shit who followed Stalin like a fangirl.
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>>64893313
Yeah so when the Confederates in the movie got humiliated by a black man Quentin made the SJW happy.
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>>64893454
>>64893313
>>64893243
Conservatives were the Republicans though and the democrats was Andrew Jackson's way of keeping the small man on top and the injuns and niggers picking cotton and peas from shit.

liberals are evil. Conservatives are the only friends minorities and niggers ever had.
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>>64893563
You realize that the republicans and democrats 200 years ago are not the same kind of democrats and republicans we have now, right.
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>>64890931

There's nothing wrong with Marxism.
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>>64893609
I don't think so Tim. good try though.
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>>64893720
Sounds like you need to go back to 7th grade history class.
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>>64890931
he was right but he was an authoritarian statist faggot. he only used this fear to get votes and strike down anybody who questioned big government. Which is something only a communist would do in my eyes. You'd have to be a fucking retard to like him.
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>>64893759
Sounds like you need to go back to reddit.
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>>64893617
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>>64893617
Until you put it into practice, my dude
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Can't wait for the Republican Party to lose its third Presidential election in a row and disband/reform itself as a new moderate party.

There's only so many times you can publicly lose the national popularity contest before you realize the same old stances won't win you the minority or 18-29 year old votes.
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>>64892721
Nolte and Harris both looked pissed

they didn't seem like huge smug liberals
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>>64890695

Seriously. It's a bizarre obsession with something so minor. Some writers had trouble getting jobs because of the politicians (e.g. Stalin) they supported. Stalin was a monster. Today, people would be blacklisted for making an off-color race or sex joke.
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>>64890931
Agreed

All the people on his list were later evidenced to have been commies.

Theres people who were convicted of espionage that the left blindly think DINDU NUFFIN
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>>64890931
>>64890695
>McCarthy
>the same idiot who tried to take on the US Army and accuse it of communism
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>>64890931
>Global economy is going to collapse entirely in our lifetime
>We'll get to watch the absurd outcome of our under-regulated capitalism
>McCarthy made everything but capitalism toxic
>Circlejerk
>MFW we drown in our own cum.
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>>64894873
>implying the US Army didnt kill Patton so they could avoid war with their commie pals
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>>64894873
>implying there weren't Soviet agents in the military brass
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>>64894004
>Today, people would be blacklisted for making an off-color race or sex joke.
No they wouldn't.

Much less are there fucking kangaroo courts held by the legislature that ruined random people's lives publicly.
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>>64893609
youre adorable
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>>64894985
>McCarthy tries to take on the military
>previously lied about military service
>under President Eisenhower, the man wanted to run by both parties because of his role in winning World War 2
>anything but a lunatic autist
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>>64895143
are you illiterate ?
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>>64895105
Nigger are you retarded? Since the thirties the roles have almost completely reversed which isn't as significant as it sounds because they're both still similar enough to where we'll never make any significant strides away from the two party system because politicians are about keeping their jobs first and actually doing them second.
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>>64895085
>what is the leftist media
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>>64895255
Holy shit thank you for spoilering that opinion. never heard such an edgy and erudite view before. you are such a free thniker.
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>>64895171
What? Are you actually going to explain yourself or are you just going to say dumb shit because what I said set off something inside of you that only makes sense to you in your head?
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commies din du nuffiin: the oscarbait
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>>64895282
>it's a "anon thinks he's superior for being an autistic party shill" episode
>implying any of it matters on the federal level between having a gerrymandered to shit country and an electoral college
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>McCarthy apologists still exist
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>>64892721

Nick Nolte and Ed Harris are the only liberals in Hollywood?
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>>64895419
95% of the people he persecuted were commies.
Including Trunbo.
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>>64895419
McCarthy apologists? McCarthy was right about everything!
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>>64893617
Except every-fucking-thing. It does not work in theory nor in practice.
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>>64895143
>>64895304
>>64895419

samefagging marxist pls go
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>>64895971
>he doesn't know what samefagging is
I don't know what I expected from a McCarthy supporter in current year tbqh family
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>Being a communist is a bad thing, worthy even of criminalization
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>>64894873
I mean, technically he's right. All militaries are communistic in essence.
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So well hate him. Because he can take it. Because hes not our hero. Hes a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight
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>>64896109
It's actually worth a death sentence, you scum.
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>>64895551
why should he have been persecuting communists anyway though?
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>>64896244
>political leanings are worthy of being put to death

You know who you sound like?
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>>64896274
>You know who you sound like?

an average liberal
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>>64896274
Someone who literally did nothing wrong?
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>>64896244
Look at how fucking cool that guy is though.
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>>64896274
a communist?
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>>64895419
>>64895551

Being a communist isn't illegal, though.
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>>64896244

That guy is cool as fuck though
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>>64896267
Because they were supporters of a totalitarian ideology that was oppressing hundreds of people around the globe.
And because many of them had contacts with extreme leftist dictatorships and they were operating to impose that same ideology on the free world.
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>>64896532
*hundres of millions of people
Fuck typo
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>>64896532
Which is an issue, why?
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>>64896532
Soviet Commies =/= Western Commies you uneducated swine
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>>64896532
he was doing the same thing though.
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>>64896532
>many of them had contacts with extreme leftist dictatorships

That's a lie though.
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>>64896532
>>64896562
MUH SIX GORILLION, OY VEY SHOAH
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>>64896588
western commies were useful of the soviet ones, you mongoloid
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>>64896633
exept that the shoah perpetrated by the commies was real
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>>64890931

Wow reddit really does come to /tv/
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>>64894955
>under-regulated capitalism

>mfw people think we live under anything close to a free market when the fed income tax code is 17 times the length of Atlas Shrugged and the number of fed crimes is so vast that the last time someone counted it up was 1982 and they stopped at just over 3000 crimes before quitting
>mfw when every single one of us has committed a violation of one of the 300,000+ federal regulations and probably does so on a daily basis, entirely in ignorance yet still potentially liable for a federal Felony or three
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>>64896532
Of course, many of the anti-communist activists had similar connections to right-wing totalitarians around the globe, so it kinda boils down to which totalitarianism you prefer.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, just start with the World Anti-Communist League and go from there.
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>>64896588

>the "not muh real communist!" argument

anyone in a first world country that wants communism is a fucking idiot. Its only practical use is to at least keep a shit tier third world countries head above water.

grow up already
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Those are all just euphemisms for Eskimos. They're disproportionately extreme leftists.

"McCarthy" vs. "commies" is really WASPs vs. Those Who Shall Not Be Named
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>>64890931
There's honestly nothing wrong with communism.
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>>64896715
hi randroid
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>>64896532
>And because many of them had contacts with extreme leftist dictatorships and they were operating to impose that same ideology on the free world.
Death to the "free world"
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>>64896740
Holy shit who pays you to come on a anonymous chinese cartoon image board and type with your ass?
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>>64890931
>>64892748
>>64893139
>>64894725
Reminder that any sort of support for McCarthy is support for a philosophy that goes against the core tenants of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. If you think McCarthy was right, then you're not a patriot and not a true American.

America is about freedom of speech, freedom of expression. If people want to support something as idiotic as communism and even campaign to bring it into our government, that is their democratic right and you don't deserve to live in the US if you think otherwise. You idiots make me sick, clothing your hypocrisy in faux-patriotism when the core of what you believe goes against the very soul of our country..

Go move to some fascist shithole if this is truly what you believe.
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>>64896672
>exept that the shoah perpetrated by the commies was real
"It was real, in my mind"
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>>64896957
>Go move to some fascist shithole if this is truly what you believe.
Where is this paradise? Please tell me!
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Trumbo is the kind of guy who looked to Lenin's model of a 'useful idiot' as an example to follow rather than a description of dumb pawn
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>>64896740

World war one was a pointless war between imperialist powers that turned Europe into a slaughterhouse. It was largely caused by the tyrannical Russian tsar which was opposed by the communists. The German kaiser saw a practical use in the communist which is why he played a key role in sending Lenin and his allies into Russia to defeat the tsar in world war one.
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>>64897030
There isn't one. Modern dictatorships are gulag-states where literally everyone suffers who isn't a part of the ruling regime. There isn't a first-world fascist country because fascism can't exist under the scrutiny of the modern world.

I understand that you're 12 and trying to be edgy on a Vietnamese skateboarding forum, so I'm going to hope against hope that maybe one day you'll mature and understand the skeletal mechanics of how shit works.
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>>64897108
>trying to be edgy on a Vietnamese skateboarding forum,
>implying i'll take an obvious redditor's word
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>>64897075
>There isn't a first-world fascist country
Loving Every Laugh
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>>64897147
here's your upvote
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>>64897169

You replied to the wrong person.
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>>64897169
Singapore is a modern Confucian society.
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>>64890695
It has Louis Cuck King wearing a fedora.
I might watch it, just to get a few reaction images.
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>>64893609
>the parties switched
>mfw
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>>64893563
Andrew Jackson was a hero to the white working class. Fuck off cuckservative faggot.
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>>64896957
it can be rationalized under the constitution

subversion of the united states and it's constitution, which enshrined rights that stand in opposition to communism, is an act against the country itself

it's not like they were trying to have an open debate
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>>64894967
>wanting war with the USSR
It's a good thing that lunatic was killed.
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>>64893609
200 years ago, Democrats were the party using the niggers.
Today Democrats are the party that uses the niggers.

Nothing really changed.
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>>64894955
you were in that anti-israel thread yesterday werent you?
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>>64897357
>it can be rationalized under the constitution
The same kind of rationalization that was utilized, ironically, by Stalin for his great purges. It's the rationalization of a witch-hunt and has no place in American society.
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>>64897411
>Al Jazeera thread
>JIDF references it as anti-Israel thread
You've blown your cover, Abraham.
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>>64892721
look at De Niro's hair. That is JUST material right there. what the fuck.
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>people should be put to death for political beliefs
CURRENT YEAR
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>>64897535
wow you used the same two images already

is there one opinion you disagree with the current left? cause you're literally a caricature
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>government literally infiltrated by communists
>hurr McCarthy was le wrong XD

seriously fuck Hollywood.
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>>64897710

Communists weren't spies they were gud bois dindu nuffin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures
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>>64897646
>JIDF on full damage control implying I'm the guy he asked about
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>>64897710
They're bourgeois liberals, not communists. If the government had any communists in it, corporations and capitalists would be cowering in the shadows, not buying our political system.
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>>64897737
nope no infiltration here
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>>64897762
>literal Soviet spies
>hurr no true communist
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>>64897455
Yeah but stalin was purging not upholding constitutional liberties and rights. nice try though, I guess
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>>64897737
They just need more money for them programs.
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>>64897803
Also many were former communist part members in Germany, Russia, etc

But apparently being a member of the communist party doesn't make you a communist, that's just right wing paranoia.
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>>64897610
>traitors shouldn't be put to death
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>>64897824

Just needed more schematics for dem A-bombs
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>>64897857
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Why are people here sperging about the USSR anyways? The USSR is long gone and the current leader of Russia, Putin, is a right wing nationalist and a capitalist. The USA is also still ruled by a right wing Zionist party. The right wing has won.
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>>64897909
The USA is still enemies with Russia.
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>>64897909
>USA is also still ruled by a right wing Zionist party.
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>>64897809
He was infringing upon the same kind of rights protected under the American Constitution with his purges. Nice try, though.
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>>64897803
Never said there was no Soviet infiltration back in the heyday. All I'm saying is that it's straight fucking retarded to think the US government is run by communists, ESPECIALLY today.
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>>64897936

The conflict has nothing to do with socialism or the USSR though. They are both right wing nationalist countries that are opposing one another. The USSR is gone and Russia is ruled by a right wing nationalist and capitalist.
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>>64897909
It's the narrative

They think they can control history (and they're right)
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>>64897897
>>64897959
Got any more related?
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>>64897967
You haven't made a point, you're just agreeing that he infringed on rights. Still doesn't equate telling commies to fuck off with Stalinism
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>>64898010
They get less related, but yes.
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>>64898015
>telling commies to fuck off with Stalinism
The reddest of the red American communist was never endorsing Stalinism. Stalinism is not communism, my friend. Communism can't function according to its proper design in the practical world. I've made plenty of points -- maybe you're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point, I don't know.
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>>64897855
*subversion intensifies*
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>>64898083
>implying subversion is bad
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>>64897909
no, the West has had it's intellectuals demoralized and its institutions subverted. The USSR might be gone but this is its legacy.
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>>64898103
Politically and economically the US is a right wing capitalist country.
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>>64890695
>Stalinist

Literally deserved everything bad that happened to him. He's gonna win for sure.
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>>64898077
This is actually correct. Read the manifesto and study the ideology, then tell me if anything has ever really comes close.
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>>64897983
Of course the US isn't run by communists today.

McCarthy was vilified for even questioning any infiltration which was the whole point.

There were literal hollywood directors spying on nuclear secrets for the USSR, and Hollywood pretends they were the victims.
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>>64890931
sjw has nothing to do with communism
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>>64898103
USSR wasn't progressive. The European intellectuals were fascinated by something that never existed.
>When Stalin came to power, homosexuality became a topic unfit for public depiction, defense or discussion. Homosexual or bisexual Russians who wanted a position within the Communist Party were expected to marry a person of the opposite sex, regardless of their actual sexual orientation.
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>>64898126
yeah but it's intellectual class openly hate the country. This is the same in basically every Western country, except may those in Eastern Europe, which aren't truly 'Western' countries anyway.

It's the slow deconstruction of nations, cultures and peoples.
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>>64895255
But that's not fucking true at all
The Republicans pretty much stayed where they were, the democrats moved to the other side of them. Eisenhower could easily still be a republican today, as could Roosevelt.
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>>64898173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqSV72VNnV0
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>>64898173
Stalin outplayed the jews in the USSR, mainly Trotsky and had them all either purged or deported. He then went back on their more progressive measures.

How ironic that Hitler and Stalin would have such a common enemy.
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>>64898150
>implying any of these people will actually read or educate themselves about what they deride and not just keep saying BUT THEY SAID THEY WERE COMMUNISTS SO THEY WERE IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER WHAT THAT WORD MEANS
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>>64898261
Why are you posting this? It has nothing to do with what I said. Look how all the former socialist states are very nationalistic and not progressive.
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>>64898298
#notruecommunist
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>>64898320
because it shows that even though Western intellectuals didn't have any idea about what the USSR was actually like, they still managed to fuck things up on behalf of the USSR
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>>64898285
I don't think it's that ironic. Stalinist Russia and Hitler's Germany were actually pretty similar. Both ideologies aren't even that different. Hell, before his death Stalin went full anti-Jewish.
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>>64898374
>on behalf of the USSR
>USSR doesn't exist anymore
Yup, they sure showed them.
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>>64898218
>he thinks the Republicans today wouldn't shoot down the idea for the national highway system like they do any other idea for transport infrastructure
Considering how many frothing at the mouth memesters there are in the Republican party today I doubt that, Eisenhower was pretty moderate even by the standards back then, let alone by today's.
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>>64898386
>Hell, before his death Stalin went full anti-Jewish
that's why Beria killed him
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>>64898446
Beria wasn't a Jew.
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>>64898414
So because it collapsed it never did anything? It did show the West in the long run from beyond the grave.
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>>64898298
>IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER WHAT THAT WORD MEANS
Kind of the point of words anon.
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>>64890695
>it's a "violating my basic civil liberties is ok as long as it's politically convenient" post
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>>64898339
>The Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't actually a democracy or a republic
>DUDE NO TRUE DEMOCRACY LMAO NEVER FORGET THE HORRORS OF THE REPUBLICS
This is how retarded you people sound when you say that.
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>>64898425
They probably wouldn't tbqh, stop letting the fringes of the party dictate your views.
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>>64898497
>you in charge of reading comprehension
>>64898552
Before 2010 I'd agree with you, but it seems like every rational, practical Republican everywhere has been getting BTFO by the crazies since then but I live in Wisconsin so maybe that's colored my views on the issue.
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>>64898549
N. Korea tries desperately to hide it's totalitarian nature.

Self labeled communists were honest about what they wanted, the "workers" controlling the means of production.
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>>64898495
It's actually the fault of nationalists and Hitler.
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>>64898688
>you in charge of reading comprehension
You're definitively not in charge.
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>>64898214

That is because they love Israel instead of the US. They still are right wing nationalists they just love a different country instead. The right wings have won.
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What are fa/tv/irgin's thoughts on socialism? I was talking to a Norwegian girl today (I'm American) who said that she wants the Nordic system in place in America that pinko bitch.
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>>64898739
>make huge gains after WW2
>ally with China, practically control all of asia
>survive for decades afterwards in a cold war
>hurr muh Hitler ruined everything

communists are pathetic
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>>64898824
America is too big, has too many guns and too many niggers for socialism to be a reasonable system. It works great for white countries like Norway and Canada though.
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>>64898824
yeah because you can easily just transpose the policies of tiny Nordic countries onto the United States.
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>>64898824
She probably needs Muslims to rape her.
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>>64898731
It's fine to say things, but did they actually do them? That's the part that matters here. If I call myself a zen pacifist who hates violence, then beat the shit out of someone because I lost a poker game all while repeating violence is bad, am I still a zen pacifist? Sort of weird analogy but I'm getting increasingly drunk as this conversation goes on so bear with me.
>>64898741
Retarded faggot I was implying that the people who mislabel communism are the ones that don't care what words mean, not that I thought definitions don't matter.
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>>64898824
socialism only works in white countries

The more non white the Nordic countries become the faster they will collapse.
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>>64898889
Canada is only about as white as America now, and with a weaker economy. Socialism could easily work here in the states.
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>>64898495

You are giving the USSR way too much credit if you think it influences the west twenty years after its gone.
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>>64894955
>>We'll get to watch the absurd outcome of our under-regulated capitalism
kek the only country that comes close to practicing "under-regulated capitalism" is Switzerland; One of the most prosperous countries on Earth.
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>>64899019
Asians are closer to whites than blacks are
Canada has 1/10th the population of America
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>>64898902
>a zen pacifist who hates violence,

having cognitive dissonance doesn't invalidate a belief in something. It just shows you don't want to make the logical connections that could lead you into being a hypocrite.
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>>64898889

Why are white people better? Please explain.
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>>64899282
one need only glance at Detroit.
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>>64899367

Detroit is a poor city that doesn't explain how whites are better. Whites can live in poor cities too and they can and often do become criminals themselves and parts of gangs.
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Man, I knew the Communists had infiltrated /lit/ and /his/, but I didn't think they'd come to /tv/, yet. I'd like to take a moment to say hello to our friends in Moscow, particularly the fellas in the SVR, the FSB, and the GRU. Remember what I told ya. It's never gonna work in America fellas, but I appreciate you still tryin. It sure gives me a good laugh to see. Also, if Beijing is here, howdy to y'all, too. Have you tiny chinamen changed your name since the last time I was over there? You boys are always changin' what you're callin' yourselves. Just pick one, will ya? Ah well. In any case, you boys have fun with your little arguments, now. Don't stay up too late.
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>>64899471
Reddit: the post
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>>64899420
What city have whites destroyed though? Manchester England?
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>>64899103
>what is the long march through the institutions
Social justice is just a KGB plot that has outlived its creators.
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>>64899471
Isn't it the middle of the night in the United States of Nigger President?
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>>64890695
It's a failed commie oscarbait, who cares.
They even cast the guy from Breaking Bad and Luis Cuck King to attract the reddit demo.
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>>64899526

Ah the ol' Reddimaroo! The new Commie technique that's sweeping the internet! Dismiss someone in an instant! Get it while it's hot! Low prices!
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>>64896471
It would be if you were an immigrant and lied about it when entering the US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1903
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1918#Definition_of_anarchist
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>>64899537

Have you studied nothing of history? Whites have been killing each other and destroying cities for thousands of years. Whites have fought countless pointless destructive wars which were downright stupid in nature just like every other kind of human. I have a hard time seeing how they are better.
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>>64899420
Whites don't burn down their own cities

The worst white place you can find is a trailer park in the middle of nowhere and it's far safer than Detoilet.
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>>64899640
whites fight other whites

Blacks kill each other over sneakers.
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>>64899277
But then you have no business applying the label to yourself, and the label is incorrect. Saying you're one thing and then doing something else completely different doesn't make the action compatible with what the label is. Like in the zen pacifist analogy, it wouldn't be correct to label beating the shit out of someone in a fit of rage a typical facet of zen pacifism because a person who purported to be one (but didn't actually follow the belief it in practice) did it. This is what people are doing when they talk about Stalinism and the Soviet Union in general. Did that make sense?
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>>64899682
>>64899710

Whites have killed other over things just as pointless as other humans have. That makes them no different. I wonder how whites would fair if they were shipped here as slaves then exploited for years before being released into poor communities. Would they fair any better? I doubt it. Whites are still humans.
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>>64899640
That's conquest dumbass. We're talking about destroying your OWN city.
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>>64899420

Council estates in the uk, used to be working class not bad but not great.

Now full of minorities, called ghettos because the place is trashed and blame white people so want programs and extra benefits
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>>64899772
But whites have been slaves also. And for longer. So, that's a problem, if that's suppose to be a defense.
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>>64899772
being a slave isn't genetic

being African is.

Any black kid could decide to read a book instead of shooting each other over Nikes, they just choose not to.
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>>64899772

whites where shipped as slaves
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>>64899710

>no white person has ever murdered over something so frivolous!

Hi 15 year old.
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>>64899725
>Stalinism and the Soviet Union in general

how was Stalin not communist enough for you?
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>>64899822
>being African is.

It literally isn't
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>>64899810
>>64899831

I know whites have been slaves before just like blacks. That makes them the same that is not evidence they are better.
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>>64899840

but those pesky problematic statistics say you are wrong on a disproportionate scale
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>>64899840
the whites murder rate is far lower than the black murder rate.

And most black crime is them killing each other or fighting over nothing.
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>>64898154
Cultural Marxism, which is the definition of SJW, is rooted in communism.
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>>64899848
Read about communism please.
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>>64896244

>psh nothin personelle
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>>64899896
>the whites murder rate

>a snapshot of social conventions in one year can logically be applied to genetic conventions over all of history

Well in that case, maybe you should include the amount of people whites have killed in war.
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>>64899879

The fact that people flock to white country's, I am not even from america but minoritys are violently shitting up the place

It gets covered up and it keeps leaking how bad it is

you don't have statistics on your side

rape and shitting up your home has nothing to do with being poor
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>>64899879

>I know whites have been slaves before just like blacks. That makes them the same that is not evidence they are better.

But whites, despite being enslaved for centuries, went on to not only not be dog-shit as a race, but to invent the modern world, including the inventions you just used to type that sentence.

200 years after slavery and nigs are still shooting white people to steal bicycles and claiming slavery "forced" them to do it.
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>>64899895

hmmm yeah.
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>>64899938
Yeah, we aren't talking about war though. We are talking about destroying your own community.
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>>64899896
>drops her baby
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>>64899822

> being African is.

The overwhelming majority of evidence indicates that anatomically modern humans evolved in the past 200,000 years afterwhich there was enough time to evolve different Melanin levels but not fundamentally different brain structures. So explain how exactly Melanin which effects the skin also somehow effects the brain in a significant way.
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>>64899869
>being this delusional
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>>64899978
>We are talking about destroying your own community.

Oh ok, so it's only violence if you destroy your own community. Not someone elses. Gotcha.
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The fuck is this hothead talking about: >>64899938
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>>64900003

If you come from Africa, you're African. Regardless of genetics. I guess English isn't your strong suit.
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>>64899869

>Being African isnt genetic

I mean, 'African' could mean like, from the continent of Africa. I guess? You know what he fucking meant.
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>>64900047
>You know what he fucking meant.

Yes, that's why I corrected him for his improper use of our language. Thankyou for understanding.
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>>64899948
>>64899955

Whites inhabited Western Europe which happens to have the quickest path to the Americas because the Atlantic is smaller then the Pacific. This allowed the whites to colonize the Americas and the world and in doing so they enslaved millions of people and Africans to work for them. This colonialism and slavery which was a product of a geographical coincidence made whites rich. That is not evidence whites are better in anyway.
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>>64900001

>but not fundamentally different brain structures

People really believe this?
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>>64900047

Apparently it is you who knows nothing of genetics. All humans are Africans even the haplogroup L3 present in all people that left Africa originated in east Africa.
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>>64900001
>fundamentally different

no the brain hasn't "fundamentally changed" whatever that means. But statistically Africans are much less intelligent on average than Europeans or East asians.
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>>64900104

>whites are the only people that enslaved other people

They weren't.
And yet here we are, with whites still being the winners of history, despite every other race practicing slavery just as much or usually more than whites.
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>>64899772

I really do think white people are genetically civil. We all understand that primitive peoples are vicious, heartless, selfish, and violent right?

So I guess you could suppose that primitive white people are vicious, heartless, and violent then too? Probably, but its a moot point whatever whatever quality motivates a primitive population to form a society has to be tied to their selflessness and their sense of justice.

People point out how big and nasty European wars are. For there even to be a war, there has to be well organized nations and military forces. That takes communication, empathy, and understanding. Primitive people just dont possess those virtues. European soldiers put their lives on the line for their peers. Primitive people simply dont, they dont have that kind of good natured selflessness.
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>>64900028
Sub Saharan Africans are genetically distinct from the rest of humanity.

>All humans are Africans

kek
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>>64900149
They really believe there is no difference between races other than skin color.

It's astounding.
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>>64900220

So the white people in South Africa are genetically distinct from the rest of humanity, you say?
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>>64893109
But that was impossible. Congress and the State Dept. had been throwing fits for decades about all the possible Reds in the government but the New Dealers kept blocking them. After the Hiss Trial and a few other things, shit still wasn't getting done. Only shaming liberals in public would get the job done.
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>>64900209

You didn't even read my post. Whites practiced colonialism combined with slavery.
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>OMG GUYS WHITES ARE SOOOOOOOOO VIOLENT

Not even close.

Places like Africa had some of the bloodiest conflicts in human history centuries before their descendants would meet the continent's first visiting whites.
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>>64900267
Sub Saharan Africans are genetically distinct from the white Anglo/Dutch people in South Africa.
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>>64900006
>only violence if you destroy your own community
>violence
Wow you lost the conversation way back then.
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>>64900083

Okay. Yeah you are right

>>64900177

>All humans are africans

Actually we all pangeans fucktard.

What a fucking stupid point.
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>>64900296

And?
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>>64890695
>Hollywood liberals STILL butthurt about McCarthy
This makes no sense. McCarthy had nothing to do with Hollywood blacklisting or red hunts in Hollywood. That was before his time. And that was HUAC.
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>>64900210
>I really do think white people are genetically civil.

Apparently you know nothing of history.

> Probably, but its a moot point whatever whatever quality motivates a primitive population to form a society has to be tied to their selflessness and their sense of justice.

Its not a moot point. It shows whites have a tendency to be just as destructive as other peoples. The difference is not the race but rather economics and social factors.
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>>64900321

Colonialism explains the inequality between whites and blacks perfectly. There is no need for a racial explanation and no evidence has been provided in favour of one.
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>>64900028
So we should stop calling black people African Americans because they're just black Americans. Unless they were born in Africa and immigrated to the United States.
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>>64900298

Im with you dog. But, to their credit, it could be true that by absolute measure of deaths, there were more US and European deaths in warfare, simply because there are probably like 4 Jivaros total.
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>>64900381

>we will just ignore all the other races that did the same things whites did and are still shit
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>>64900179

Your racist statistics are not accepted by a majority of scholars.
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>>64900439

name them
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>>64900381

What do you mean 'colonialism explains the inquality perfectly'? What? I dont understand that sentence.

Are you for real right now?

>>64900352

>Apparently you know nothing of history.

Maybe I do. Kek, how would you know?

>The difference is not the race but rather economics and social factors.

If you measure the destruction by just pure volume sure. But then that overlooks the fact that on a person by person basis whites are far more civil, and far less destructively.

It wouldnt be fair to say a society with 100 members is equal in violence to a society with 10,000 members, if both of them suffer 2 murders a year.
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>>64900439
It's not even racist its location based. You think some tribal African is going to have the same IQ as some urban Chinese person
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>>64900305

But they're all sub Saharan Africans.
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>>64900149
>>64900257

There is significant variation even without white people. Not all white people look the same. You haven't demonstrated anything.
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>>64900439
Even if you're from Harvard you get kicked out for not mouthing the party line

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Putnam
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>>64900317
>Actually we all pangeans fucktard.

Pangean isn't a species. Try again.
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>>64900439

Holy shit do you even read faggot?

Intelligence research is the the oldest, largest, and most robust body of psychology. Its literally older than psychology at this point. Weve been replicating studies, and finding consistencies for like 140 years now. Where have you been?
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>>64899923
Trots get out.
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>>64900394

Yeah it's a pretty stupid name desu
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>>64900525
So you can find lots of white people that look like this then?

Race isn't real so it should be easy.
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>>64900381
Why were Europeans in the position to colonise Africa then? Why didn't Mali and """"""great""""" Zimbabwe colonise Europe?
I mean if they were equal the greater resources in Africa should have led to Africans sweeping over tiny Europe like a tidal wave.
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>>64900554

Neither is African! Pay attention.
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>>64900510
>I dont understand that sentence.

See >>64900104

> Maybe I do. Kek, how would you know?

Study the history of wars between whites.

> But then that overlooks the fact that on a person by person basis whites are far more civil, and far less destructively.

There are white criminals too. There are certain black people far more civil then certain white people.
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>>64900581
you should be able to find tons of white people that look like this too

After all race doesn't exist.
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>>64893109
Some of the people he implicated in his lists were proven to be Soviet spies/agents/colloborators much later - like in the 70's and 80's.

Mcarthy's personality was his biggest enemy, and his witch hunt was too publicized but he was mostly right
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>>64900581
>So you can find lots of white people that look like this then?

He just made the point that there is significant variation within populations. By that logic it is almost impossible to find 2 people that look alike, which is pretty much common knowledge. So why would you ask if he can find someone who looks the same? Are you retarded?
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>>64900590

Western Europeans were in the best geographical position within Eurasia to engage in colonialism due to the proximity to the Americas.
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>>64900614

>Study the history of wars between whites.

Well I have, but okay, there is nothing wrong with more studying.

>There are white criminals too. There are certain black people far more civil then certain white people.

Certainly. No doubt about that. But criminals are disproportionately represented among black people.
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>>64900596

What's your point?
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>>64899923
Then how come the Soviet Union fell? If all everyone had to do was the bare minimum and the state owned it, where's the drive that gives people the creative freedom to innovate? Do people receive a loaf of bread and gruel for a day's hard work? Will a doctor who studies his/her ass off make the same as a Janitor? Why would people become doctors under such a system?
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>>64900618
His point is that variation is enough to make race irrelevant. If that's the case show me.

Are you retarded?
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>>64900651

>Western Europeans were in the best geographical position within Eurasia to engage in colonialism due to the proximity to the Americas.

Wait what?

What about the people in Ameirca? Werent they in a better geographical position? How about the people in Mexico? Isnt Morocco closer to America too?
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>>64900653
>But criminals are disproportionately represented among black people.

I know that the black community is messed up. I even know some black people that recognize this problem in their community and they want to fix it.
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>>64900627

His point is that variation is enough to make race irrelevant. If that's the case show me all these white variants that look identical to albino africans.

Are you retarded?
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>>64900685
>What about the people in Ameirca? Werent they in a better geographical position?

Eurasia has an advantage with the Americas because of its longitudinal extent compared to the Americas which is what allowed for the silk road and all the great civilizations to emerge there. This allowed white Europeans to get inventions like gunpowder from the Chinese and for other inventions by white Europeans to benefit the Chinese and other people along the silk road so the whole region was more prosperous. The Americas is in a much worse geographical position for the formation of civilizations. Jared Diamond has a book on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
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>>64900720
>Are you retarded?

You're asking me this after you responded to your own post?

>white variants that look identical
>identical
>variants

I don't think you understand what these words mean
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>>64896957
Communism is blatantly anti-democratic and anti-human and individual rights doe.

Mcarthy's problem is the way he went about it, he lacked the subtlety of someone like J. Edgar Hoover.

But he was far, faaaar from being wrong, alot of the people he implicated were spies or collaborators (proven decades later) or otherwise later professed themselves as Marxists later.
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>>64900708

Sure. We all want things to be better. I want things to be as good as they can be for someone, regardless as to their intelligence, potential, or violent tendencies.

Genes are casual and predictive on criminal propensity.
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>>64900298
There is not a single African tribe on this chart.
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>>64900768
Wow you are retarded

I didn't ask for anything identical I just wanted a white person who looked somewhat similar to an African Albino, giant protruding lips, a very wide nose and wide set eyes.
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>>64900772

>implying you care about individual rights when you're villifying based on belief structure
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>>64900808

That is a white person. His skin is white.
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>>64900764
That book is pop science sold to the masses and not a legitimate scientifically reviewed source.
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>>64900837
No that's an African Albino with facial features and genetics that set him apart from all Europeans.
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>>64900858

But it has been reviewed by legitimate scientific sources.
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>>64897909
The USSR, in it's death, cast a killing blow on the West, we're still dying from it.
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>>64900720
>>64900768

Dont know what you guys are on about, but it would help to really elaborate into what it means to be genetically diverse.

A single mutation can cause a huge phenotypical difference in an individual. Just talking about variance doesnt explain how different two individuals are. If there was one gene, lets suppose, that could significantly determine the individuals intelligence or athletic ability, there would be very little genotypical variance, but a ton of phenotypical variance.

Alternatively, two individuals can be identical in a number of significant genes, but very different in the huge majority of human genes that play no role in our biology. They would be phenotypically identical, but genotypically very different.

Now its not the simple, but you can see how it can be misleading to just talk about variance. Some small collection of genes, that are disproportionately represented in one body and not another, can make a huge difference, regardless as to whatever way you measure overall genotypical similarity.
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>>64896957
Communism goes against individual liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If communists ever have complete power within a country, I'm going to bet that they will do much worse than McCarthy when it comes to witch hunts involving the opposition.
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>>64900889

Why aren't you saying white anymore?
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>>64900902
It never went through peer review at all it's not an academic work.
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>>64900794

Wow you are right. All the Africans were angels.

>>64900811
> belief structure

Say more dumb made up terms. Its funny. They dont mean anything.

>>64900902

>But it has been reviewed by legitimate scientific sources.

Isnt a source usually, like a book? Are you saying a book reviewed another book? Thats incredible.
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>>64900577
>implying
Don't you have cabinets to be purging right now, tankie?
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>>64897983
Considering most of the "right" wing does economically liberal shit like corporate welfare and government and military spending - basically spend spend spend, and the fact that we live in a Centrally planned Market economy as opposed to anything resembling an actual free market now, I'm not so sure
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>>64900974
>Isnt a source usually, like a book? Are you saying a book reviewed another book? Thats incredible.

Are you saying review isn't a part of the academic process?
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>>64900974
>All the Africans were angels
I didn't say that. But they weren't more violent that the Europeans.
>>
Why do they keep getting TV guys to make films?
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>>64900929
white is typically shorthand for European,

>>64900906
>A single mutation can cause a huge phenotypical difference in an individual.

no single mutation can change races
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>>64900963
>>64900902

Hes right tho in that it is pop sci. Not to say its a bad book, but its pop sci.

Lots of shit makes it through peer review.

Pic related made it through peer review.
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>>64901023
>white is typically shorthand for European,

Define European.
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>>64900974
Communism involves the collection over an individual's viewpoint. Ideologues such as yourself will do anything, even lie, in order to keep your viewpoint at the top even if someone would point out its flaws.
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>>64900676
Who did you think you were replying to?
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>>64901014

No, I am not saying that. You talk like an idiot. Thats what I am saying.

>>64901017

I would feel safe presuming that seeing as there are tons of primitive people living in Africa. Its mostly a violence in primitive vs civilized people argument.
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>>64901044
the red part
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>>64901078
>I would feel safe presuming that seeing as there are tons of primitive people living in Africa.

Like who?
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>>64901066

Where is communism coming from? I didnt say anything about communism. Do you think the wars of the European nations were wages solely by communists?
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>>64901087

Explain your graph to me anon and how to made it.
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>>64893945
>implying that demographic votes
>implying Hilary is not the most unlikable candidate in the world
>implying the Bernie shills won't just stay home instead of voting for her when she fucks him out of the nomination
>implying trump doesn't have massive independent support
>implying he doesn't have the black vote
>implying he won't win in a landslide
>implyi bakeries wont be made great again
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>>64900858
>That book is pop science sold to the masses and not a legitimate scientifically reviewed source.

Its just a quick recommendation. You can check it out if you want. The point still stands: Eurasia has the largest longitudinal extent which allowed for the formation of the silk road and it has the most utilizable plants and animals.

>>64900793

> Genes are casual and predictive on criminal propensity.

Despite all my 'superior' intelligence as a white person descended from two white parents I haven't found any convincing evidence that being white makes you more intelligent. This has been an interesting discussion but none of these arguments have been convincing.
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>>64898126
>right wing
Not economically, by a long shot.
Our economy is a centrally planned Market economy, and we're moving closer to a command economy.
Keynesian economics is anything but right wing.

>Capitalist
Sure thing, China is capitalist too, they realized long ago that communism can't survive without a market economy

The USSR, throughout it's history, was anti-gay, and placed population control on it's populace - after WW2 abortion was banned so the population could regrow, later on it was allowed again.
The USSR may have spread cultural marxism but they certainly didn't practice it.
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>>64901161
>bakeries

Meant to say America


Auto correct you so crazy
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>>64901161
You are fucking delusional if you think Trump is going to be the next president. He's going to deflate somewhere towards the end of the primaries and it's going to be some establishment ass like rubio or cruz who will be the gop nominee, who will promptly be defeated by hillary clinton.
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>>64901176
All of the Communist societies realized that capitalism works.
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>>64896244
Were Reddit commie liberals a thing back then too? I mean look at that dude. Literally Reddit: before Reddit
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>>64901176
Cultural Marxism was a means to destroy an economy.
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>>64901137
It's a genetic map

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/06/genetics-the-jewish-question/#.Vpix0lI4qUk
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>>64901108

Like the bush men, the !Kung, the Aka Pigmes, the Bofi.

>>64901167

Well, intelligence alone wouldnt take you anywhere?

What have you read? Do you give any credibility to Spearman? Jenson? Flynn? Charles Murray? Have you read the Bell Curve?
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>>64901167
>The point still stands

It doesn't stand at all, it's an assertion with no proof besides baseless speculation that could never pass academic review which is why it's marketed to the same people that buy 50 shades of Grey and the da Vinci Code.
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>>64898218
What is the southern shift for 200 alex?

The democrats largely lost the south - the decline started with Lyndon B. Johnson.
Nixon took great advantage of it with the southern strategy, and Reagan capitalized on it.

Eisenhower wouldn't fit in anywhere nowadays, alot of that has to do with him being wise as fuck and not a bought out hack.
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>>64901233
>People still think trump will not be the nominee

The guy has been on the top of the polls practically since the day he announced his candidacy. He's committed was should be campaign suicide like 7 or 8 times now, and even the media is starting to treat him as a serious candidate because they can no longer deny it. Plus the dude has fuck you money and is massively under budget. Not to mention he is ahead in the primary states. I don't understand how people are even pretending that he won't get the nom.
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>>64901322

This. All that silk road shit is literally untestable speculation.

Not science at all. What work went into that? Its a clever idea, thats not implausible, but its not science.
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>>64898285
Alot of the early followers and right hand men of Lenin were jewish.
Lenin himself had Jewish ancestors (Mothers side).

Stalin killed alot of them in purges, but the only thing he did that was concretely anti-jewish was banish the jews to their own oblast (region), Birobidzhan - near Petropavolsk and Mongolia IIRC
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>>64901361

Because ultimately its the GOP that makes some decision, and not just a vote of popularity, right? Or am I wrong on this?

The GOP doesnt want some crazy asshole to win the election, even if he is under the banner of the republican party. They would prefer someone politically skilled, legally knowledgeable, and ideologically committed like Ted Cruz.
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>>64898731
>Self labeled communists were honest about what they wanted, the "workers" controlling the means of production.

Yet all it really led to was government control over the means of production, and governments so fucking powerful they could kill their populations en masse.

A better solution would be to give everyone a cut of the profits of the means of production, and the ability to vote on such things, but alas, the biggest problem with communism is it attracted statists - mostly because Karl Marx was a fucking hack.
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>>64898889
These past few years are showing that it isn't working in Canada, or Norway, or elsewhere in Europe very well at all.
Socialism is remarkably short sighted
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>>64901295
>Like the bush men, the !Kung, the Aka Pigmes, the Bofi.

How many of them are there?
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>>64901605

Yeah not that many I guess. Good point. You win.
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>>64899640
Whites are also 100% responsible for the rise of modern advanced civilization itself, don't be so fucking naive - the next most advanced continent in the world after europe, (East) Asia, was still living in feudal almost medieval style times when the west was already past the renaissance and in the enlightenment era.

Stop poo pooing whites, historically we fought and killed ourselves much, much more than we fought non whites
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>>64899848
To be fair, Stalin was an opportunist statist who massed allies and took power - he didn't give a shit about communism, he cared about himself and his own ambitions and communism was the backdrop, communism, as an ideology is rife for that kind of exploitation.
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>>64900104
You act like all whites are responsible for slavery, I don't fucking think Celts, Slavs, and Germanics took much (non-white) slaves (germany did have some colonies in africa later on - Namibia for example).

No it was fucking Anglo Saxons and Iberians that shitted it up
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>>64896715
Free markets do not and have never existed. They're absolute zero.

And the fact that there is Byzantine government regulation doesn't mean that there's meaningful government regulation.

Agency capture across the board. The rules were written by the players and as a result the game is untenable in the long run. There's still nothing preventing another housing or securities bubble. The US economy is going to tank again and it's going to be as a direct result our broken system.
>>mfw when every single one of us has committed a violation of one of the 300,000+ federal regulations and probably does so on a daily basis, entirely in ignorance yet still potentially liable for a federal Felony or three
That's being incredibly dramatic, and failing to account for the fact that THERE'S NOBODY ENFORCING THE RULES. On you or on the people that actually have an effect on the economy.

>MFW
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>>64897411
Non. Dont give a shit about them. They're all acting like assholes.
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>>64900764
Yeah that was later on.
Europe advanced as rapidly as it did compared to the rest of the world because it's a much more adverse environment than Africa, Asia or the Americas.

>Food isn't as naturally abundant as in warmer areas like Africa or the Americas, neccessitating a need for agricultural development

>Winters are fucking brutal to long term survival, food becomes scarce, shelter durability is tested, disease and illness permeates, staying warm is a problem in and of itself when you are wearing animal fur rags and constantly on the prowl for firewood - this adversity led to a pooling of resources and the advancement of communities. It really can't be understated how brutal winter is to survival.

>Tons of rain and flooding

In comparison africa may have natural predators (they aren't in abundance anyway), and a prevalence of poisonous shit, but food was far from scarce in comparison, Southern and central African peoples didn't have to rely on agriculture too much, even in comparison with north Africans, and it was constantly warm.

Basically:

Peoples born from adversity do better than those that don't/not as much
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>>64900811

You have a right to be stupid and even spread your stupid idealogy, but eventually people are going to do stupid things to stop/prevent you and your stupid idealogy from gaining power/prevalence.
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>>64899125
>Swiss economy is pretty thoroughly regulated economic system. They're just popular money havens.
>Swiss economy is 370 billion. US economy is 17+ trillion. GDP of San Francisco versus GDP of the EU.
>Even if they did have a less stable financial system (they don't), them failing doesn't destroy the global economy.
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>>64896957
American values are all trash, but guess what faggot
I don't need to leave, you'll be happy to let me stand in opposition to them cunt because your own "values" require that you do
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>>64901233
>Back to back democrat presidents

I don't think it's likely, the last time it happened was JFK to LBJ.

Every time the dems get a president in he does stupid shit which prevents another dem from following on.

LBJ - Vietnam, alienated the southern democrats with the civil rights act - immediately followed by Nixon who promised an end to nam'

Carter - Iran hostage crisis and rescue blunder, gas crisis, do bad he was only a one term president - followed by reagan - who had his own issues but generally held strong and was followed by a lackluster one term republican president - bush Sr. - who was followed by -

Clinton - Monica Lewinsky scandal, other sex scandals, Vince Foster incident, deregulation of finance industry, NAFTA - clinton was the best hope the dems had of achieving back to back two term presidents but he (narrowly) fucking blew it.

Obama - VA scandal, Fast and furious, benghazi, Afghanistan, syria and ISIS, undeclared war in Libya, horrible at foreign policy, literally carter 2.0, lucky as fuck he got a second term.
It's kind of unlikely the voter is going to go to the ballot box and vote another dem - millenials aren't numerous enough and baby boomers are still voting.

Dem presidents generally fuck up more than republican ones, and even when they do - like with Nixon, someone like Gerald Ford steps in and repairs the damags (IMO the best one term president of the last century)
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>>64902415

Kek this.

I got my BS in economics. Studying monetary policy was wicked interesting. Its true, different nations have different monetary goals, and different policies to reflect that.

The federal reserve for example, has as its principal interest to keep the US economy stable, which it does by targeting unemployment and handling recessions. The federal reserve doesnt give a fuck about the value of the dollar on the international market. We are already a huge part of the world economy, we dont need to control international investment with the US. The opposite is true regarding small nations. They need to remain trading with the world, so they control their currencies exchange rate, and controlling unemployment and stability is pointless when they have no control over the economic forces that impact them.
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