>>64890695 What's funny is McCarthy was completely right about communism infiltrating our country. It came in through Hollywood, and now 95% of colleges hold cultural marxist/liberal/communist views. McCarthy should've executed them desu.
Why do you insist on using the word liberal as an insult? Isn't it a compliment to be a liberal? I mean, the party that's been in the white house for the past 8 years has been liberal, and the party that will be in the white house the next 4 will also be liberal. Why not be on the winning side?
>>64890931 He was right and wrong at the same time. He openly declared that Soviet agents and Commie sympathizers embedded themselves in our nation, but he had no fucking clue who they were.
I hate Communism with a passion, but McCarthy did more harm than good. The same with the HUAC and the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. I'd rather that government agents collected evidence in secret that have these spectacles out in the open. If there's actual proof, then you deal with American traitors that way.
>>64893454 >>64893313 >>64893243 Conservatives were the Republicans though and the democrats was Andrew Jackson's way of keeping the small man on top and the injuns and niggers picking cotton and peas from shit.
liberals are evil. Conservatives are the only friends minorities and niggers ever had.
>>64890931 he was right but he was an authoritarian statist faggot. he only used this fear to get votes and strike down anybody who questioned big government. Which is something only a communist would do in my eyes. You'd have to be a fucking retard to like him.
Seriously. It's a bizarre obsession with something so minor. Some writers had trouble getting jobs because of the politicians (e.g. Stalin) they supported. Stalin was a monster. Today, people would be blacklisted for making an off-color race or sex joke.
>>64890931 >Global economy is going to collapse entirely in our lifetime >We'll get to watch the absurd outcome of our under-regulated capitalism >McCarthy made everything but capitalism toxic >Circlejerk >MFW we drown in our own cum.
>>64894967 >>64894985 >McCarthy tries to take on the military >previously lied about military service >under President Eisenhower, the man wanted to run by both parties because of his role in winning World War 2 >anything but a lunatic autist
>>64895105 Nigger are you retarded? Since the thirties the roles have almost completely reversed which isn't as significant as it sounds because they're both still similar enough to where we'll never make any significant strides away from the two party system because politicians are about keeping their jobs first and actually doing them second.
>>64895282 >it's a "anon thinks he's superior for being an autistic party shill" episode >implying any of it matters on the federal level between having a gerrymandered to shit country and an electoral college
>>64896267 Because they were supporters of a totalitarian ideology that was oppressing hundreds of people around the globe. And because many of them had contacts with extreme leftist dictatorships and they were operating to impose that same ideology on the free world.
>mfw people think we live under anything close to a free market when the fed income tax code is 17 times the length of Atlas Shrugged and the number of fed crimes is so vast that the last time someone counted it up was 1982 and they stopped at just over 3000 crimes before quitting >mfw when every single one of us has committed a violation of one of the 300,000+ federal regulations and probably does so on a daily basis, entirely in ignorance yet still potentially liable for a federal Felony or three
>>64890931 >>64892748 >>64893139 >>64894725 Reminder that any sort of support for McCarthy is support for a philosophy that goes against the core tenants of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. If you think McCarthy was right, then you're not a patriot and not a true American.
America is about freedom of speech, freedom of expression. If people want to support something as idiotic as communism and even campaign to bring it into our government, that is their democratic right and you don't deserve to live in the US if you think otherwise. You idiots make me sick, clothing your hypocrisy in faux-patriotism when the core of what you believe goes against the very soul of our country..
Go move to some fascist shithole if this is truly what you believe.
World war one was a pointless war between imperialist powers that turned Europe into a slaughterhouse. It was largely caused by the tyrannical Russian tsar which was opposed by the communists. The German kaiser saw a practical use in the communist which is why he played a key role in sending Lenin and his allies into Russia to defeat the tsar in world war one.
>>64897030 There isn't one. Modern dictatorships are gulag-states where literally everyone suffers who isn't a part of the ruling regime. There isn't a first-world fascist country because fascism can't exist under the scrutiny of the modern world.
I understand that you're 12 and trying to be edgy on a Vietnamese skateboarding forum, so I'm going to hope against hope that maybe one day you'll mature and understand the skeletal mechanics of how shit works.
>>64897357 >it can be rationalized under the constitution The same kind of rationalization that was utilized, ironically, by Stalin for his great purges. It's the rationalization of a witch-hunt and has no place in American society.
Why are people here sperging about the USSR anyways? The USSR is long gone and the current leader of Russia, Putin, is a right wing nationalist and a capitalist. The USA is also still ruled by a right wing Zionist party. The right wing has won.
The conflict has nothing to do with socialism or the USSR though. They are both right wing nationalist countries that are opposing one another. The USSR is gone and Russia is ruled by a right wing nationalist and capitalist.
>>64898015 >telling commies to fuck off with Stalinism The reddest of the red American communist was never endorsing Stalinism. Stalinism is not communism, my friend. Communism can't function according to its proper design in the practical world. I've made plenty of points -- maybe you're just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point, I don't know.
>>64898103 USSR wasn't progressive. The European intellectuals were fascinated by something that never existed. >When Stalin came to power, homosexuality became a topic unfit for public depiction, defense or discussion. Homosexual or bisexual Russians who wanted a position within the Communist Party were expected to marry a person of the opposite sex, regardless of their actual sexual orientation.
>>64898126 yeah but it's intellectual class openly hate the country. This is the same in basically every Western country, except may those in Eastern Europe, which aren't truly 'Western' countries anyway.
It's the slow deconstruction of nations, cultures and peoples.
>>64895255 But that's not fucking true at all The Republicans pretty much stayed where they were, the democrats moved to the other side of them. Eisenhower could easily still be a republican today, as could Roosevelt.
>>64898150 >implying any of these people will actually read or educate themselves about what they deride and not just keep saying BUT THEY SAID THEY WERE COMMUNISTS SO THEY WERE IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MATTER WHAT THAT WORD MEANS
>>64898285 I don't think it's that ironic. Stalinist Russia and Hitler's Germany were actually pretty similar. Both ideologies aren't even that different. Hell, before his death Stalin went full anti-Jewish.
>>64898218 >he thinks the Republicans today wouldn't shoot down the idea for the national highway system like they do any other idea for transport infrastructure Considering how many frothing at the mouth memesters there are in the Republican party today I doubt that, Eisenhower was pretty moderate even by the standards back then, let alone by today's.
>>64898339 >The Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't actually a democracy or a republic >DUDE NO TRUE DEMOCRACY LMAO NEVER FORGET THE HORRORS OF THE REPUBLICS This is how retarded you people sound when you say that.
>>64898497 >you in charge of reading comprehension >>64898552 Before 2010 I'd agree with you, but it seems like every rational, practical Republican everywhere has been getting BTFO by the crazies since then but I live in Wisconsin so maybe that's colored my views on the issue.
>>64898731 It's fine to say things, but did they actually do them? That's the part that matters here. If I call myself a zen pacifist who hates violence, then beat the shit out of someone because I lost a poker game all while repeating violence is bad, am I still a zen pacifist? Sort of weird analogy but I'm getting increasingly drunk as this conversation goes on so bear with me. >>64898741 Retarded faggot I was implying that the people who mislabel communism are the ones that don't care what words mean, not that I thought definitions don't matter.
>>64894955 >>We'll get to watch the absurd outcome of our under-regulated capitalism kek the only country that comes close to practicing "under-regulated capitalism" is Switzerland; One of the most prosperous countries on Earth.
Man, I knew the Communists had infiltrated /lit/ and /his/, but I didn't think they'd come to /tv/, yet. I'd like to take a moment to say hello to our friends in Moscow, particularly the fellas in the SVR, the FSB, and the GRU. Remember what I told ya. It's never gonna work in America fellas, but I appreciate you still tryin. It sure gives me a good laugh to see. Also, if Beijing is here, howdy to y'all, too. Have you tiny chinamen changed your name since the last time I was over there? You boys are always changin' what you're callin' yourselves. Just pick one, will ya? Ah well. In any case, you boys have fun with your little arguments, now. Don't stay up too late.
Have you studied nothing of history? Whites have been killing each other and destroying cities for thousands of years. Whites have fought countless pointless destructive wars which were downright stupid in nature just like every other kind of human. I have a hard time seeing how they are better.
>>64899277 But then you have no business applying the label to yourself, and the label is incorrect. Saying you're one thing and then doing something else completely different doesn't make the action compatible with what the label is. Like in the zen pacifist analogy, it wouldn't be correct to label beating the shit out of someone in a fit of rage a typical facet of zen pacifism because a person who purported to be one (but didn't actually follow the belief it in practice) did it. This is what people are doing when they talk about Stalinism and the Soviet Union in general. Did that make sense?
Whites have killed other over things just as pointless as other humans have. That makes them no different. I wonder how whites would fair if they were shipped here as slaves then exploited for years before being released into poor communities. Would they fair any better? I doubt it. Whites are still humans.
The overwhelming majority of evidence indicates that anatomically modern humans evolved in the past 200,000 years afterwhich there was enough time to evolve different Melanin levels but not fundamentally different brain structures. So explain how exactly Melanin which effects the skin also somehow effects the brain in a significant way.
Whites inhabited Western Europe which happens to have the quickest path to the Americas because the Atlantic is smaller then the Pacific. This allowed the whites to colonize the Americas and the world and in doing so they enslaved millions of people and Africans to work for them. This colonialism and slavery which was a product of a geographical coincidence made whites rich. That is not evidence whites are better in anyway.
I really do think white people are genetically civil. We all understand that primitive peoples are vicious, heartless, selfish, and violent right?
So I guess you could suppose that primitive white people are vicious, heartless, and violent then too? Probably, but its a moot point whatever whatever quality motivates a primitive population to form a society has to be tied to their selflessness and their sense of justice.
People point out how big and nasty European wars are. For there even to be a war, there has to be well organized nations and military forces. That takes communication, empathy, and understanding. Primitive people just dont possess those virtues. European soldiers put their lives on the line for their peers. Primitive people simply dont, they dont have that kind of good natured selflessness.
>>64893109 But that was impossible. Congress and the State Dept. had been throwing fits for decades about all the possible Reds in the government but the New Dealers kept blocking them. After the Hiss Trial and a few other things, shit still wasn't getting done. Only shaming liberals in public would get the job done.
>>64890695 >Hollywood liberals STILL butthurt about McCarthy This makes no sense. McCarthy had nothing to do with Hollywood blacklisting or red hunts in Hollywood. That was before his time. And that was HUAC.
Intelligence research is the the oldest, largest, and most robust body of psychology. Its literally older than psychology at this point. Weve been replicating studies, and finding consistencies for like 140 years now. Where have you been?
>>64900381 Why were Europeans in the position to colonise Africa then? Why didn't Mali and """"""great""""" Zimbabwe colonise Europe? I mean if they were equal the greater resources in Africa should have led to Africans sweeping over tiny Europe like a tidal wave.
>>64900581 >So you can find lots of white people that look like this then?
He just made the point that there is significant variation within populations. By that logic it is almost impossible to find 2 people that look alike, which is pretty much common knowledge. So why would you ask if he can find someone who looks the same? Are you retarded?
>>64899923 Then how come the Soviet Union fell? If all everyone had to do was the bare minimum and the state owned it, where's the drive that gives people the creative freedom to innovate? Do people receive a loaf of bread and gruel for a day's hard work? Will a doctor who studies his/her ass off make the same as a Janitor? Why would people become doctors under such a system?
>>64900685 >What about the people in Ameirca? Werent they in a better geographical position?
Eurasia has an advantage with the Americas because of its longitudinal extent compared to the Americas which is what allowed for the silk road and all the great civilizations to emerge there. This allowed white Europeans to get inventions like gunpowder from the Chinese and for other inventions by white Europeans to benefit the Chinese and other people along the silk road so the whole region was more prosperous. The Americas is in a much worse geographical position for the formation of civilizations. Jared Diamond has a book on this.
Dont know what you guys are on about, but it would help to really elaborate into what it means to be genetically diverse.
A single mutation can cause a huge phenotypical difference in an individual. Just talking about variance doesnt explain how different two individuals are. If there was one gene, lets suppose, that could significantly determine the individuals intelligence or athletic ability, there would be very little genotypical variance, but a ton of phenotypical variance.
Alternatively, two individuals can be identical in a number of significant genes, but very different in the huge majority of human genes that play no role in our biology. They would be phenotypically identical, but genotypically very different.
Now its not the simple, but you can see how it can be misleading to just talk about variance. Some small collection of genes, that are disproportionately represented in one body and not another, can make a huge difference, regardless as to whatever way you measure overall genotypical similarity.
>>64896957 Communism goes against individual liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If communists ever have complete power within a country, I'm going to bet that they will do much worse than McCarthy when it comes to witch hunts involving the opposition.
>>64897983 Considering most of the "right" wing does economically liberal shit like corporate welfare and government and military spending - basically spend spend spend, and the fact that we live in a Centrally planned Market economy as opposed to anything resembling an actual free market now, I'm not so sure
>>64900974 Communism involves the collection over an individual's viewpoint. Ideologues such as yourself will do anything, even lie, in order to keep your viewpoint at the top even if someone would point out its flaws.
>>64893945 >implying that demographic votes >implying Hilary is not the most unlikable candidate in the world >implying the Bernie shills won't just stay home instead of voting for her when she fucks him out of the nomination >implying trump doesn't have massive independent support >implying he doesn't have the black vote >implying he won't win in a landslide >implyi bakeries wont be made great again
>>64900858 >That book is pop science sold to the masses and not a legitimate scientifically reviewed source.
Its just a quick recommendation. You can check it out if you want. The point still stands: Eurasia has the largest longitudinal extent which allowed for the formation of the silk road and it has the most utilizable plants and animals.
> Genes are casual and predictive on criminal propensity.
Despite all my 'superior' intelligence as a white person descended from two white parents I haven't found any convincing evidence that being white makes you more intelligent. This has been an interesting discussion but none of these arguments have been convincing.
>>64898126 >right wing Not economically, by a long shot. Our economy is a centrally planned Market economy, and we're moving closer to a command economy. Keynesian economics is anything but right wing.
>Capitalist Sure thing, China is capitalist too, they realized long ago that communism can't survive without a market economy
The USSR, throughout it's history, was anti-gay, and placed population control on it's populace - after WW2 abortion was banned so the population could regrow, later on it was allowed again. The USSR may have spread cultural marxism but they certainly didn't practice it.
>>64901161 You are fucking delusional if you think Trump is going to be the next president. He's going to deflate somewhere towards the end of the primaries and it's going to be some establishment ass like rubio or cruz who will be the gop nominee, who will promptly be defeated by hillary clinton.
It doesn't stand at all, it's an assertion with no proof besides baseless speculation that could never pass academic review which is why it's marketed to the same people that buy 50 shades of Grey and the da Vinci Code.
>>64901233 >People still think trump will not be the nominee
The guy has been on the top of the polls practically since the day he announced his candidacy. He's committed was should be campaign suicide like 7 or 8 times now, and even the media is starting to treat him as a serious candidate because they can no longer deny it. Plus the dude has fuck you money and is massively under budget. Not to mention he is ahead in the primary states. I don't understand how people are even pretending that he won't get the nom.
Because ultimately its the GOP that makes some decision, and not just a vote of popularity, right? Or am I wrong on this?
The GOP doesnt want some crazy asshole to win the election, even if he is under the banner of the republican party. They would prefer someone politically skilled, legally knowledgeable, and ideologically committed like Ted Cruz.
>>64898731 >Self labeled communists were honest about what they wanted, the "workers" controlling the means of production.
Yet all it really led to was government control over the means of production, and governments so fucking powerful they could kill their populations en masse.
A better solution would be to give everyone a cut of the profits of the means of production, and the ability to vote on such things, but alas, the biggest problem with communism is it attracted statists - mostly because Karl Marx was a fucking hack.
>>64899640 Whites are also 100% responsible for the rise of modern advanced civilization itself, don't be so fucking naive - the next most advanced continent in the world after europe, (East) Asia, was still living in feudal almost medieval style times when the west was already past the renaissance and in the enlightenment era.
Stop poo pooing whites, historically we fought and killed ourselves much, much more than we fought non whites
>>64899848 To be fair, Stalin was an opportunist statist who massed allies and took power - he didn't give a shit about communism, he cared about himself and his own ambitions and communism was the backdrop, communism, as an ideology is rife for that kind of exploitation.
>>64900104 You act like all whites are responsible for slavery, I don't fucking think Celts, Slavs, and Germanics took much (non-white) slaves (germany did have some colonies in africa later on - Namibia for example).
No it was fucking Anglo Saxons and Iberians that shitted it up
>>64896715 Free markets do not and have never existed. They're absolute zero.
And the fact that there is Byzantine government regulation doesn't mean that there's meaningful government regulation.
Agency capture across the board. The rules were written by the players and as a result the game is untenable in the long run. There's still nothing preventing another housing or securities bubble. The US economy is going to tank again and it's going to be as a direct result our broken system. >>mfw when every single one of us has committed a violation of one of the 300,000+ federal regulations and probably does so on a daily basis, entirely in ignorance yet still potentially liable for a federal Felony or three That's being incredibly dramatic, and failing to account for the fact that THERE'S NOBODY ENFORCING THE RULES. On you or on the people that actually have an effect on the economy.
>>64900764 Yeah that was later on. Europe advanced as rapidly as it did compared to the rest of the world because it's a much more adverse environment than Africa, Asia or the Americas.
>Food isn't as naturally abundant as in warmer areas like Africa or the Americas, neccessitating a need for agricultural development
>Winters are fucking brutal to long term survival, food becomes scarce, shelter durability is tested, disease and illness permeates, staying warm is a problem in and of itself when you are wearing animal fur rags and constantly on the prowl for firewood - this adversity led to a pooling of resources and the advancement of communities. It really can't be understated how brutal winter is to survival.
>Tons of rain and flooding
In comparison africa may have natural predators (they aren't in abundance anyway), and a prevalence of poisonous shit, but food was far from scarce in comparison, Southern and central African peoples didn't have to rely on agriculture too much, even in comparison with north Africans, and it was constantly warm.
Peoples born from adversity do better than those that don't/not as much
>>64899125 >Swiss economy is pretty thoroughly regulated economic system. They're just popular money havens. >Swiss economy is 370 billion. US economy is 17+ trillion. GDP of San Francisco versus GDP of the EU. >Even if they did have a less stable financial system (they don't), them failing doesn't destroy the global economy.
I don't think it's likely, the last time it happened was JFK to LBJ.
Every time the dems get a president in he does stupid shit which prevents another dem from following on.
LBJ - Vietnam, alienated the southern democrats with the civil rights act - immediately followed by Nixon who promised an end to nam'
Carter - Iran hostage crisis and rescue blunder, gas crisis, do bad he was only a one term president - followed by reagan - who had his own issues but generally held strong and was followed by a lackluster one term republican president - bush Sr. - who was followed by -
Clinton - Monica Lewinsky scandal, other sex scandals, Vince Foster incident, deregulation of finance industry, NAFTA - clinton was the best hope the dems had of achieving back to back two term presidents but he (narrowly) fucking blew it.
Obama - VA scandal, Fast and furious, benghazi, Afghanistan, syria and ISIS, undeclared war in Libya, horrible at foreign policy, literally carter 2.0, lucky as fuck he got a second term. It's kind of unlikely the voter is going to go to the ballot box and vote another dem - millenials aren't numerous enough and baby boomers are still voting.
Dem presidents generally fuck up more than republican ones, and even when they do - like with Nixon, someone like Gerald Ford steps in and repairs the damags (IMO the best one term president of the last century)
I got my BS in economics. Studying monetary policy was wicked interesting. Its true, different nations have different monetary goals, and different policies to reflect that.
The federal reserve for example, has as its principal interest to keep the US economy stable, which it does by targeting unemployment and handling recessions. The federal reserve doesnt give a fuck about the value of the dollar on the international market. We are already a huge part of the world economy, we dont need to control international investment with the US. The opposite is true regarding small nations. They need to remain trading with the world, so they control their currencies exchange rate, and controlling unemployment and stability is pointless when they have no control over the economic forces that impact them.
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