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Rust plays poker edition.
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If I learned anything from this show, it's that people north of the Mason/Dixon are even dumber than the niggers down South.
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>>64632121
NO DEY AINT
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[ominous guitar music intensifies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDoh_WfL44s
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>>64632175
>yeah
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>>64632241
>i dunno
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Lets bully and trick the retarded kids into admitting crimes they didn't commit.
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So who really did it?
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>>64632462

Yeah
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>>64632485

Whoever was stalking Teresa, which could have been a number of people including Steven
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>>64632485
Her ex
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>If you do find anything say you find the truck say you talk to somebody that has seen her or made contact or knows whereabouts or anything, don't touch anything. It's very important, I guess, don't touch anything, get a hold of either the detective or dispatch in Chilton and tell them you're really concerned and you found this and they can take care of getting a hold of what we need to...
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>>64632462
>didn't commit

Tip top lel
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>>64632623
Was the boyfriend getting cucked by Teresa's roommate and that's why he killed her?
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>>64632485
The entire Avery family. They are an inbred mass murder cult. That's why they went to jail for sacrificing animals.
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>>64632702

We'll never know because the police somehow never considered either of them to be a suspect
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>>64632702
Yeah probably. Guy was giving off serious psychopath vibes. Also just listen to how he answers when the detective asks if Theresa was romantically involved with her roommate in the interview. Spurned lover is one of the most common motives for murder. Would at least have been worth looking into, but shitty cops gonna shit.
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>>64632702
Not exactly. She was killed because she crossed paths with a psychopath named Steven Avery, a violent criminal and rapist, and a child molester.
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>>64632489
Wait did you photoshop a screencap of a post? Or did you save an image by screencapping your browser?

What the fuck is going on here
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>>64632774
They were not CLEARLY GUILTY like Steve.
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>>64632792
Absolutely. The "DUDE WE JUST GUESSED HER USER NAME AND PASSWORD LMAO" part was a real wtf moment.
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>>64633051
Yeah?
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>>64632824
>No crime scene
>No murder weapon
>No direct physical evidence linking suspect and victim
>No motive
>Preposterously slim window of opportunity
>Suspect spends five days cleaning the impossibly cluttered murder scene with flawless forensic precision but forgets that his victim's car, with his blood in it, is 50 meters away on his lot and that he has several key evidence items just lying around his house, when he has a convenient and accessible means of disposing of both on his lot

Steven Avery is a shitty person, but he is the only person in history to apparently achieve being both a complete fucking moron and a dastardly criminal mastermind of Hannibal Lecter tier abilities at the same time.
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>>64633127
Everyone always forgets:
>drives body out to quarry
>burns it
>collects remains and for some reason transports them back to his fire pit 20 feet from his trailer
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>>64633127
Schrödinger's Dindu
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>>64633190
Right, it could have happened that way, but you do realize this is just the shoddy story that the prosecution presented and not 100% factual truth
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>>64633221
Yeah but they found remains at multiple sites correct? Why would Steven burn the body at the quarry and then take the remains back to his house? It makes no sense.
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>>64633278
Many things about the case make no sense. Honestly we're all just speculating. The only person that really knows what happened is Theresa and she's obviously not going to tell anyone about it now.
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>>64633341
Yeah it's frustrating, just like Serial. I'm just surprised the defense didn't seem to stress the multiple burn sites thing as much as they showed.
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So wait, did they prove that Colburn found the Rav-4 or not? That whole segment was confusing because that seemed pretty conclusively to be proof of a setup. How did the police explain that one?
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>>64632717
IT LOOKS AT THE RIBBON ON THE DESK OR IT GETS THE POLYGRAPH AGAIN
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>>64633595
They couldn't conclusively prove that the sheriff's department planted evidence but they could certainly heavily imply it with what they had. I personally think that alone is enough for reasonable doubt.
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>>64633615
whos ribbon was that again?
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>>64633615
[colluding with the prosecution intensifies]
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>Old hag gets god guided to the car after spending half an hour on the humongous lot stacked to high heaven

>Steven takes the body to Bones & Bonfires tour before failing to utilize crusher he uses daily

>Despite allegedly gouging deep wounds into the victim's body no blood is found in the house

>Key that's found on umpteenth pass is somehow clean of all DNA except Steven's

>Lenk makes a small mistake regarding broad daylight and pitch black

>Steven's cousin and in-law stories about time also don't match

>Fat crying girl admits her story was an invention on trial

>Retard gets convicted because they call him a liar until he says something completely out of line with scene evidence that he also later recants and despite coercion being filmed and presented as evidence - no one bats an eye

>Episode 4 was directed by M Night Shymalala

What's the point of being a lawyer if the cognitive level of the courtroom is that low?

And I thought Paradise Lost was bad, at least there you could make some sort of presumption despite those kids not being strong enough to do such deep wounds. This shit is gaping hole: the trial.

I'd say that likely culprits are Steven's cousin (other nepphew, right?) and in-law guy + the 'hacker' that 'guessed' her password. I have no idea whether someone investigated a connection between them and I think Lenk and co. simply exploited the turn of events without bothering to find the guilty.

I suggest everyone that liked this to play Phoenix Wright, it won't feel like a caricature of legal proceedings anymore. Have a priest of chaos to set the tone for the remainder of the thread.
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>>64633765
>It... it was *sobs* ... look it's Theresa's church in.. in the background *gets a hardon, sniffs*

Perfect choice for the final episode, best gallery of characters I've ever seen.
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>>64634014
>What's the point of being a lawyer if the cognitive level of the courtroom is that low?

I thought the same thing. Strang and Buting's talent and efforts were wasted on the hick town.
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Who else got the impression Dean Strang didnt really believe in his client's innocence?
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So who was the most evil person in the series?

My vote goes to Lenk.
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>>64634281
He was hired to defend Avery but yeah, he probably didn't really like him much. It really seemed like he felt for Brendan's situation though.
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>>64634443
Yeah my thoughts exactly. It seemed he was merely acting in a professional manner with the Avery case. His partner seemed more like a true believer though. Then again, they are lawyers and keenly aware of what kind of effect this documentary could have with regard to the possibilty of a retrial.
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>>64634301
>not le conspiring defense lawyer
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>>64634301
S. Avery tbqh senpaitachi
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>>64634629
Seriously though, his strategy was so fucking dumb. There was no possible way that Brendan would be able to string enough sentences together in court to testify against Steven. My personal vote for most hated character goes to this piece of shit right here.
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Question: how was Brenden convicted of mutilating a corpse or whatever yet Steven was found not guilty for the exact same charge?
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>>64634810
I believe Steven's lawyers convinced the state to drop that charge.
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>>64634810
if brendan paid more money and hired better lawyers they would've done the same as steven's
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>>64634769
Kind of got the feeling that ginger weasel lawyer wasn't really interested in the case and just wanted it wrapped up as quickly and painlessly as possible.
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Was it just me or did the Avery matriarch not give a fuck about Brendan? Seems she only cared about Steven.
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>>64634999
Well it was her (firstborn?) son vs. her estranged grandson. Also Brendan was socially retard so I can't imagine him having much of a relationship with his grandparents.
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>>64634850
Yes, on the basis of the fact that it simply couldn't be proved the body was mutilated in the first place.
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>>64635074
Yeah but still, it IS her grandson. I just cant believe there is such a disconnect there. Also, they lived on the same compound. It was just weird seeing her being that indifferent to him.
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Just finished EP 3

>"No, the key wasn't there the first time"
>"it was by a desk Lenk and Colbert were searching"
>"LT. Lenk spotted it"

Please tell me it gets even more ridiculous?
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>>64633044
How long did a voicemail password have to be back then? I know mine could have probably been easily figured out as I used it for everything and it was only 4 digits.

The deleting messages is what bothered me.
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>>64635121
I think she did care, she was there at most of the trials from what I could see. But she looked emotionally and mentally exhausted, so there's only so much you can care and genuinely show it. Also she probably blamed Brendan for incriminating himself and putting Steven deeper in the shit pit, especially with regards to the media.

>>64635140
Oh boy you're in for a wild ride son. Episode 4 is some fucking Twilight Zone tier Shamalamadingong shit.
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>>64633037
Doesn't matter. You STILL investigate them regardless
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>>64633341

And the killer, obviously
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i'm halfway through episode 3.

i believe Steven avery so far, seems like total horseshit they'd let the sheriffs frame him up like this.
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yeah
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yeah but April 10th is Wrestlemania
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Someone needs to dub over a montage of DA Kratz with Harvey Dent's lines from The Dark Knight.

>Remember that name you all had for me when I was at Internal Affairs? What was it?
>Two-Face. Ken Two-Face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh0Oh5zF2iA
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>>64636098
Yeah?
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>>64636711
That's correct.
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>>64635879
Brendan posting is a quality meme. It's about time this board got a new one that isn't shit.
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>>64636865
Yeah?
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I don't recall saying that.
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>>64632623

Wrong guy, the guy saying that line was seated on the ground...

>I guess.
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>>64633127
>>64633190

All while a pending lawsuit for 32 million is almost guaranteed to him.

Anyways, how bout that asshole questioning him with those loaded statements?

>Why did you do it
>it's ok, we understand

I didn't do it

>But you did, it's all right there. Why Steven!?

It's literally "rabbit season, duck season, duck season, rabbit season" in real life.
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>>64637070
Same guy. The ex-boyfriend. The same one who 'guessed' her voicemail password and deleted the messages. I'm guessing they were in some way incriminating to him and proved that he was stalking/harassing her. Also it's a classic serial killer move to put yourself at the centre of a missing persons search when you have no real reason to be involved.
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>“I’m the atty. I have the $350,000 house. I have the 6-figure career. You may be the tall, young, hot nymph, but I am the prize!”

be honest who wish to be fucking alpha as this guy?
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>>64632485
>>64632602

this or her brother

look at them during the search

you just know. Or the roommate
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Did anyone else get a True Detective sort of vibe from this series? With the police conspiracy, the poor hick town, even the intro was kind of similar? Just reminds me that Season 2 of TD should have been set somewhere like Wisconsin.
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>>64637574

I'd be surprised if Season 3 doesn't revolve around this case.

>decades long story time
>corruption
>small town outskirts and endless country

The intro and establishing shots in this documentary already feel more like TD then season 2 ever did.
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>>64637254
TELL ME ABOUT THE PRIZE
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>>64632224
That's pretty good, thought it set the mood for this series perfectly. Kind of understated and mysterious, but also a little sinister and melancholy at the same time. Which is I guess how you could summarise the whole affair. Anyone know anything with a similar sort of atmosphere?
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>>64637169

>"it's OK Steven you made a mistake I get it"
>"no I didn't."
>"so you meant to kill her!!"
>"I didnt do anything"
>"yes you did"

That Weigart is a real slimy piece of shit
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>>64632485
Her fucking brother. 100%
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>>64637672

>I'd be surprised if Season 3 doesn't revolve around this case

has season 3 even been green lite yet...?
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>>64633127
>No Crime Scene
Yes this part is true.
>No Murder Weapon
How about the gun hanging above Avery's bed? The bullet found in the garage had her blood on it, she died of a bullet wound, and the bullet was fired from that gun.
>No direct physical evidence linking suspect and victim
If you ignore the key and the blood, there's still DNA found under the hood of the RAV4 that is Steven Avery's and which was found AFTER Brendan Dassey told the police that him and Steven removed the battery from the RAV4 (a fact in the case). That and his gun was the murder weapon.
>No motive
He called her three times the day she was murdered, including from a *67 phone number. He once went out to see her wearing nothing but a towel. Teresa told her boss she felt uncomfortable going to the Avery farm because of Steven. Steven bought rope and handcuffs the day before Teresa went missing (His fiance was in prison, so it's kinda hard to link it to her). He has a history of sexual abuse against women, and while in prison, you can see all of the horrible notes he wrote to his ex wife even in the documentary.
>Preposterously slim window of opportunity
He had all Halloween night.
>Your last point
The prosecution didn't know where the murder scene was. The garage and bedroom were clearly guesses and were wrong. And Steven Avery is extremely stupid, his whole family is.

Guilty or not, let's get some fucking facts straight here.
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>>64638464
Yeah, but Pizzaface is pissed and may not write it. There's no deadlines set at the moment.
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rate em
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>>64638594

>Amy Lehmann

My Dick knew immediately.
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>>64638594
add Steves new gf
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>>64638594
Add another le handsome newsman to husbandos. Also you forgot Sandy, she should get her own 'Loyal as Fuck Tier'. Otherwise pretty solid.
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>>64638594
switch teresa with the busdriver and we're fine
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>>64638731
Sandy cucked her husband and fell in love with an inmate after writing letters to him.
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>>64638594

I love that this was even made. Thank you /tv/

Love, Reddit
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>>64637254
Alpha?? my woman has a manlier voice than this queefy fuck
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>>64638903
he's the prize tho....yeah?
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>>64638540
why would pizza be pissed? He's the one who fucked it all up
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>>64639002
That is correct.
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>>64638744
This. Bus driver qt is underrated.

And who is 1st woman in God tier? I don't remember her. Should probably be moved down desu
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>>64639129
That's the reporter who asked all of the inflammatory questions to the prosecution. Didn't you even watch?
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Lets write Brendon a letter one word at a time...

Hi,
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>>64639171
steven
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>>64639171
Yeah.
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>>64639171
you
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>>64639171
That sounds like hard work. Can't we write him a word a letter at a time instead?
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>>64639169
Oh sorry, I meant in Good tier. Next to Teresa, on the left.
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>>64639171
Wrestlemania
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>>64639171
Wrestlemania.
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>>64639171
WASN'TITFUNWHENWEKILLEDTHATGIRLANDNOWTHESEFAGSARETRYINGTOSETUSFREEIBETIGETTOMEETJOHNCENAMAYBEHE'LLCALLMEUNDERTAKERBECAUSEIALSOLIVEAMONGTHEDEADYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAHYEAH
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>>64639171
Wrestlemania
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>>64639171
April
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>>64639171
i ain't
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>>64639171

Fatass
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>>64632175
>tfw you tell your mom you are a virgin and couldn't have raped her
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Caturday yet?
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>>64639171
Yeah?
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How do I delete this show from my Netflix suggestions? I'm sick of looking at that white trash piece of shit's face every time I try to Netflix and chill.
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>>64639425
delete system32
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steve just got a get out of jail free card

http://fox11online.com/news/local/lakeshore/steven-avery-hires-new-attorney
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>>64639480

My smart TV doesn't have a system32 file. It's too smart for that.
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>>64639521
idk then smash that like
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>>64639425
Netflix Kids
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>>64639171
>>64639188
>>64639194
>>64639233
>>64639248
>>64639260
>>64639274
>>64639277
>>64639307
>>64639334
>>64639402
>Hi, steven

>Yeah. you Wrestlemania Wrestlemania. Wrestlemania April i ain't Fatass Yeah?
great job
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>>64639508
Hmm. Looks kind of similar to this other lady I saw a few times on this documentary that got killed.

>Post yfw he rapes and murders her
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>>64638594
>that analitical chemist lady
She was pretty funny

Anyways I don't know if it was edited this way but do all lawyers hit a witness up with "that will be all" right after they say something incriminating or contradict themselves? It's like a lawyers equivalent to a mic drop.
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>>64639604
Sincerely,
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>>64639604
sounds like the jailhouse phone calls
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>>64639508
damn no more based deaner and jerry.
he's fucked
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>>64639604
Teresa
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>>64639644
Len
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Do you think Brendan is still a virgin?
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>>64639651

>Doesn't have the guys who already didn't get him set free
>Instead has the woman who has had more (likely guilty but the cops fucked up) people set free than anyone else

Pretty sure he's far less fucked than he was.
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Should Steven angle to try and get a Presidential pardon?
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>>64639067
he's pissed because season 2 was shit without based hiroshima there to hold his hand and he refuses to accept criticism and just got mad at the world
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>>64639711

My brother is locked up in Wisconsin and he says he definitely isn't. He said he was a "J-Cat" who is getting "June bugged" by the other inmates on his tier. I had to google that shit because my brother is a dumb faggot (obviously as he's in prison) who speaks in gobbledegook now, but it pretty much means he's treated like a crazy retard and made to be the guys in the cells on his floor's bitch. Like he has to get them stuff and clean their shit, so I'm betting someone probably pos'd his boipussy.
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>>64637169
>>64638058
Those are classic criminal interrogation techniques used across the country to great effect. Investigators can lie to you, and frequently do, which is why if you are questioned by the police in any kind of situation, you CLAM THE FUCK UP, and the only words out of your mouth are the ones that ask for a lawyer.

That's my biggest complaint, especially in Brendan's case, as juveniles are often given greater rights in such cases due to their limited age and experience. Like I said in a thread a few days back, in the state of Massachusetts for example, juveniles can be questioned by investigative authorities, but AS SOON AS THE JUVENILE BECOMES A SUSPECT the questioning must STOP, a parent or guardian contacted, and then the juvenile is mirandized ON TAPE in the presence of the parent or guardian. THEN the parent/guardian gets time alone OFF TAPE with the juvenile and they can decide if they want to talk/not talk with the police, and if they want to have a lawyer present or not, neither of which was done for brenbren. Now, that's in Massachussetts, I don't know how the juvenile criminal code is in Wisconsin, but it's still really scummy to not contact the parent/guardian and not have a lawyer present.
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>>64639938
That's how I pictured it.
Maybe not rapes but he is their bitch.
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>>64639938
That's what I figured. Where is your brother?
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>>64638594
Elite tier is legit, busdriver should be bumped up one tier.
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>>64639638
Lawyers, be they defense or prosecution, are always trying to shoot holes in the opposition's evidence to further their own goals (conviction/acquittal of the defendand) and one major way to do that is by cross-examining the witnesses. They'll have the witness tell their story/what they saw, and then pull out the records and say "but it's fucking documented here that you weren't here until 6 PM, so how the fuck were you there at 12 PM?" and then stop them from trying to explain anything to accentuate the contradiction. It's all about discrediting the witness. If they lied about that, what else did they lie about? It's purely manipulation tactics on the part of the attorneys towards the jury.
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>>64639171
yeah
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>>64639996

Yeah, my brother says most of the prison rape stuff is bullshit but it does happen sometimes. A lot more rare than TV would have you think though.

>>64640041

He was in Green Bay, the same prison. Now he's in FCI Oxford because part of what he was charged with was Federal.
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>>64639701
Kek
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>>64638594
That reported was hot as fuck. Looks like the type thats into dirty stuff as well. Deserved elite tier.
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>>64640270
yeah
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>>64638594
>Bus driver not in good tier
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>>64638501
>He called her three times the day she was murdered, including from a *67 phone number
Source for *67 phone number?
>Teresa told her boss she felt uncomfortable going to the Avery farm because of Steven.
Source?
>Steven bought rope and handcuffs the day before Teresa went missing
Source?
>He has a history of sexual abuse against women
Source? pls nothing to do with the manitowoc police department
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>>64640726
Literally google Steven Avery's name.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/06/making-a-murderer-subject-steven-avery-is-guilty-as-hell/

http://www.avclub.com/article/read-damning-evidence-against-steven-avery-making--230224

http://www.businessinsider.com/making-a-murderer-ken-kratz-on-evidence-against-steven-avery-2015-12
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Steve Avery's defense lawyers were phenomenal. It's hard to believe they lost the case.
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>>64634301
Nah. Lenks a cold blooded gangster. Most evil person is the cousin and wife of the cop who started all this in the first place.
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>>64640864
They were bretty good.

You guys think he would have a better chance if that juror wasn't replaced? Or was the trial lost before it even begun?
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Anyone who acts blind to the obvious police corruption in this case is trolling.
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>>64640975
this
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>>64640975
Yep.

And anyone who thinks Avery was innocent in this case is trolling too.
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>>64640795
did you check the sources on those sources? They're awfully flimsy. One of them lists a google search for "steven avery reddit" as a source.
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>>64640975
I think Brendan is almost certainly guilty and can't believe he's in jail.
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Hope he gets out and then kills again, and all you dweebs can jerk each other off about fair trials and due process.
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>>64641108
The source is Kratz who has access to all of the evidence of the case, and no one is refuting it.

>Guys I like having my head in the sand

I'm not saying he's guilty, but the facts are out their for this case. Look at them before you get all heaped up in some autistic anger on the system and the jurors.
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>>64641081
>areweevenwatchingthesameshow?
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>>64640275
yeah?
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>>64641156
This, but I just hope he kills one of the people who were defending him. Not some innocent with half a brain.
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>>64641170
Did your check the source of the sources on those sources tho
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>>64641182
>Brendans theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ulQgfqkvLY
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>>64639171
PS
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>>64641280
rape
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>>64637254
I hate this guy. Every time he speaks I want to puke.
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>>64640975
>police
B-b-but muh cat! Clearly a hannibal tier murderer
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>>64637254
>alpha
>can't pick up damaged goods with slick pick up lines
>can't even frame an actual retard
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>>64641355
He has the girliest voice that I've ever heard on a man. It's truly remarkable.
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anyone watched the jinx? I'm on the first ep & it looks kinda interesting
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>>64641452
That's not even his natural voice. He is actually intentionally trying to make his voice more "appealing" to the jury. The result is nausea-inducing.
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>>64641487
Yeah it's pretty good
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>>64641487
The Jinx is even better. Don't let anyone spoil it! Stop reading this thread and just watch it.
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>>64632224
was this used in the last of us or is it just similar?
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>>64641266

I am ridiculously infuriated at everything that is happening to this kid. 20 minute into episode 4 right now at the forced drawings of the "rape."
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>>64641452
The dude's fucking creepy, you should look up the sexting shit he did.
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>>64641618
So fucked up, right?
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>>64641618
oh poor, poor anon, it gets much worse
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>>64641618
His second attorney should honestly be held up on criminal charges, he seemed to purposefully trying to get him thrown in prison.
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>>64641618
I'm furious that this dumb fucking kid confessed then recanted then confessed the recanted. wtf dude, go watch wrestling or something.

>i dunno?
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>>64641618
Would you say it gets your blood boiling?
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>>64641618

>Le poor retarded kid I am so le angry at how that rapist and liar who the documentary tells me dindu nuffin is being treated

>>>/tv/mblr
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>>64641691
you could easily think he's totally guilty or totally innocent based on his own testimony.
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>>64641691

How is he even a reliable witness? How is this literally allowed!?
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>>64641692

IT DOES.

Yeah...

Yeah?

Yeah.
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This fucking judge is so full of shit. Denies every legitimate request made by the defense. Seems like he's in on it somehow.
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>>64641487
The Jinx is fucking based, but also suffers from some of the same impartiality issues and selective editing, but it's still a terrific watch.
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>>64641945
In high profile cases, judges are scrutinized carefully and face political opposition if they appear "soft on crime."

That said, many judges in America are former prosecutors who show heavy favortism toward the government in every case.
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>>64641860
Confirmed for being Aaron Rodgers boyfriend, Teresa found out and was going to go to the press, and Aaron Rodgers killed her.

We now know the truth. Aaron Rodgers really really loves killing women.
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>>64641860
>Exploiting your sisters murder to climb the corporate ladder
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>>64642070
Source?
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>>64641945
>hey judge can we, like, point the finger at other suspects?
>nah breh, there really isnt enough evidence to accuse anyone else
>ye but listen man, thats because the police didnt investigate anyon-
>SHUT THE FUCK UP IM IN CHARGE HERE
what a great system
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>>64642115
My dad, who works at Nintendo.
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>>64642171
yeah?
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>>64642220
Yeah.
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>>64642220
As I said, I got it outta that book
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>>64642240

...yeah
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>>64642266
yeah!
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>>64642266
Coulda seen it on the news...
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>>64637574
>>64637672
If they brought back the Lovecraft vibe they had in the first season it would be god tier

>Teresa was the sacrificial victim in a secret ceremony involving higher ups in law enforcement and government.
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>>64642281
I dunno...
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>>64639425

>netflix and chill

Please keep your reddit memes contained to reddit
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>>64642316
k bye
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>>64642322
>The implication that is a Reddit meme

Your /r9k/ and permavirginity are showing, Mantits McNeckbeard.
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>>64642316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RsIVhXf31U
yeah?
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>>64639938

As a passive suggestible mentally challenged teenager convicted of a sex crime he was always gonna get turned out
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>>64639171
no girlfriend
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>>64642389
that was awful
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>>64637574
>>64637672
>>64642302

You only liked first season because of Rust and Marty, the story and motivations were cookie-cutter as fuck.
Yeah photography was good too I admit it.
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>>64642371

enjoy your memes
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>>64642512
Thanks, I will.
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>>64642371

love your funny maymays dude, I bet the girls think you're hilarious :)
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>>64642512
>>64642538
just like your samefagging
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>>64642538
A lot more than they do anything about you, I can assure you. Butthurt faggot.
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Why did they hate the Avery family so much? Eyebrows?
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>>64638594
Move the bus driver to good tier.
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>>64642617
i'd hate everybody if that was my hair
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>>64642599

>I'm n-n-not b-butthurt, you are!
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>>64639651
Kathleen Zellner has had 17 wrongful convictions overturned. Most of these have been pretty high profile cases, like Ryan Ferguson.
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>>64633213
Why has no one responded to this? This is top level bantz right here.
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>>64642790
Keep replying and proving me right, fuccboi. ;^)
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>>64638594
>things could be worse tier

top fucking kek
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>>64642884
'no'
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>>64642884
i had a sensible chuckle about it
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>>64641587
same composer who did he show also did the game, his name is Gustavo S-something
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>>64638501
>How about the gun hanging above Avery's bed? The bullet found in the garage had her blood on it, she died of a bullet wound, and the bullet was fired from that gun.

The cops were 8 days inside his house, it's not hard to fire a bullet from his gun.

>If you ignore the key and the blood, there's still DNA found under the hood of the RAV4 that is Steven Avery's and which was found AFTER Brendan Dassey told the police that him and Steven removed the battery from the RAV4 (a fact in the case). That and his gun was the murder weapon.

If police has blood of you, they have your saliva too.

>>64638501
>He called her three times the day she was murdered, including from a *67 phone number. He once went out to see her wearing nothing but a towel. Teresa told her boss she felt uncomfortable going to the Avery farm because of Steven. Steven bought rope and handcuffs the day before Teresa went missing (His fiance was in prison, so it's kinda hard to link it to her). He has a history of sexual abuse against women, and while in prison, you can see all of the horrible notes he wrote to his ex wife even in the documentary.

BDSM is a fucking up fetish but it's there. Maybe he was a kinky guy, who the fuck knows.
Calling from a private number doesn't mean shit, maybe he was a pervert too.

>The prosecution didn't know where the murder scene was. The garage and bedroom were clearly guesses and were wrong. And Steven Avery is extremely stupid, his whole family is.

Took them a real fucking long time until they accepted the fact that the murder scene was not there.
Then they claimed it happened in the garage and didn't find the tiniest droplet of blood ANYWHERE.

Also pretty fucking strange they found her car in 10 minutes when his junkyard is 3000 yards big, and he had a car demolisher too. Why didn't he use that to get rid off evidence?
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>>64638594
where's the hightest courtroom deputy or sheriff that sits behind avery at his trial??
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>>64643224
There could be footage of Avery fucking Teresa's corpse and you twits would find "reasonable doubt."
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>>64632489
Yeah, this dude seemed like the scummiest piece of shit of them all.
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regardless of guilt we all know Avery was fucked over. All he had to do was piss off the wrong person and it's game over. No matter who you are it could happen to anyone.

ps. Lenk and Colborn are shitstains
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>>64643560
you seriously believe that the local sheriff dept was completely in the clear?
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>>64634301
Kratz

but also O'Kelly and Fassbender for manipulating Brendan
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>>64638731
those two were fucking each other
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>>64643224
I think the police planted evidence, and I'm not 100% convinced that he's guilty, but I'd say I'm pretty convinced, and would have a hard time acquitting him based on the evidence I've seen.
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That one fucking cop on trial

>calls in to report plates
>confirms plates
>it's a 99 Toyota right!?
>yup

I THOUGHT SHE TOLD ME IT WAS ONE!?
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>>64643685
>The sheriff department looks fishy
>That means Avery is innocent! Despite the other evidence that was not tampered with!

This is what happens when you make an extremely biased documentary. I guess this is the reaction they wanted.
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>>64643965

>biased
>literally everyone in trial is caught between lies

This is coming from a video editor, I know how to tell stories, but those trial videos are literally what happened. You can't falsify that stuff without it becoming incredibly jarring.
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>>64643965
i didn't say he was innocent, i asked you a question
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>get to episode 9
>Brendan's defense opening statement
Is this a roast or something? dear lord
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>>64644027
Do I think the Manitowoc police is in the clear? No. I think the key was a plant, and I think there's a decent chance the blood was a plant. What's your point? Some cops are corrupt and plant evidence to ensure convictions. This isn't a new story. It's awful but reality.

>>64644019
Wow, so if you tell half of the story, and ignore the other half, then it's not biased? You must work for MSNBC. How about the other 3 hours of Brenden Dassey's interview that they didn't show you or didn't even mention? Where he corroborated physical evidence like Avery's DNA underneath the RAV4 hood and the missing battery WITHOUT police telling him that?
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>>64644151
automatic mistrial then, based on your own assumptions. what are you arguing about?
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>>64644292
You have to convince a judge that the key and blood were a plant, I'm not a judge. I'm a guy who spent less than 15 hours looking at this thing, mostly from a biased documentary.

Also, mistrial doesn't get you off the hook. All it does is toss out that evidence, and get a new jury. People have been convicted of worse crimes on less information, even without the key or the blood.
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>>64644151

>your position on the case combined with the fact that you mentioned MSNBC and not Fox

telling m8

inb4...
>I could have mentioned Fox! It makes no difference!
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>>64644338
I'm biased, so what? Go back to reddit you fucking libcuck.
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>>64644151

Anon, the entire fucking case is amateur hour.
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>>64632489
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>>64643965
>>64644151
>>64644337
>>64644350
>"i argue just to argue"
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>>64632489
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>>64644151

How is it biased when every single testimony is caught in a lie,if not hesitant when the defense calls out their shit.

>test should been inconclusive
>but you fucked up up and just labeled it as Theresa's
>so she can't be placed in the garage
>uhhhhhhhh
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Why don't the police and the justice department want to remove the corruption and cancerous members of their system? Why do they always go full nuclear instead of admitting the possibility of guilt? Wouldn't they have more integrity if they showed a little transparency? For that matter, why can't these authoritarian pricks EVER admit that they are only human and that they make mistakes? They would rather kill or take away someone's freedom FOREVER that admit any wrongdoing? Isn't there just one good cop out there who has the balls to take a stand?
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>>64644548
because they're friends and have known each other for years. probably go drinking together, eat dinner at each other's houses, know their wives and kids etc etc. same reason hood niggers dont rat on each other
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>>64644605
It makes me wish I was a cop just so I could be a good one. But they would never let me be a cop because I would never follow an order or enforce a law I didn't believe in.
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>>64644679
you could be a cop you'd just never get promoted
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>>64644721
Maybe, but I would have to lie during the interview. They don't want moral integrity nearly as much as they want people who will follow orders.
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>>64644765
they don't ask about that. they just want to know how many times you've smoked pot or snorted coke or heroin
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>>64644151

>uses a SUV to transport a body 50 ft.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Zellner

This woman is now heading Steve's case.

Will he be exonerated?
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>>64635312
yep. youll keep the same opinion till the end. People who claim he's guilty are doing it to be "unique "
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>>64644909
I'm watching averys verdict on episode 8 now. and you're right
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>>64644860
We've covered this already. Please try to keep up.
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>>64644450
I'm not saying they're intentionally cutting it to look bad. I'm saying they're intentionally leaving shit out.

A 10 hour documentary should be comprehensive and present all of the evidence, not just the stuff that makes Avery and Dassey look innocent.
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>>64645054
NO BULLY!
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>>64644849
Are you seriously 15? I watched the same documentary you did. I also was under the impression that the jury didn't really do their job.

Then I fucking spend 10 minutes of research on the actual case. Maybe you should do the same.

>But muh documentary that leaves out incriminating details

Fuck off.
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>>64640975
pretty much. We have one of the worst justice systems on the planet and our police corruption mirrors the likes of Russia at this point. This just sheds light on it
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>>64632575
fuck steven
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>>64643950
why would they not know the car at that point? more bullshit from the directors
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>>64638594
>Emily Matesic
>Not Elite Tier
DUDE SHE'S SO THICK THO GOD DAMN. And that first husbando Ken Doll looking mother fucker.
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>>64644384


kek
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>>64632485

Impossible to know due to the extreme mishandling of the case and intentional evidence tampering.
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WHO TEAM /KRATZ/ HERE? HE DIDN DO NUFFIN WRONG.
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>>64632121
That's what really got me. My mind kept placing them in West Virginia or something and every time they mentioned Wisconsin it blew my mind.
Funny how those accents sound down right Scandinavian sometimes too.
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>>64645078
You're not getting the point. They do show all the evidence. It's just that evidence is not sufficient to establish guilt in the mind of a non-retarded person. So your defense against this is that showing how it took seven searches over four months to find a car key is "bias". Showing that Theresa Halbach's DNA was not on a key she owned for six years is "one-sided". Noting that the state prosecuted two different and mutually exclusive theories of the crime is "intentionally leaving shit out".

The real issue is you're a fucking moron.
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>>64645209
S E X
U A L
P R E
D _ A
T O R
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>>64645209
>voice of an angel
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>>64637254
>>64645209
>tfw no longer the prize
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>>64645218
How come they didn't show any of Steven's past criminal history in detail? How come they didn't show the fact that Steven calls Teresa 3 TIMES with a private *67 number? HMMMM?
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>>64645209
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>>64645256
Everytime he spits out bullshit his voice goes up higher. It's like he has a vice that tightens his testicles everytime he lies.
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>>64645257

Great, now he looks like George R. R. Martin with brain damage.
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>>64632489
>tfw no one acknowledged it's suppose to be Bob Ross.
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>>64645209
/KEN "THE KONKERER" KRATZ/
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>>64645264
They literally did in literally the first episode. (The cat, the incident with his cousin, the tavern robbery.) The three phone thing is just shit that Kratz made up. It was never introduced as evidence. And even he if had called, it still doesn't change the fact that the rest of the evidence is fucking moronic.

>i'll just leave this care here instead of compacting it in the crusher i use daily
>i'll make sure none of my prints are found on the car but my blood is everywhere
>doesn't matter that the evidence seal on the vacutainer containing my blood is cut
>doesn't matter that colborn called in the plate and confirmed the year and make of the vehicle two days before it was discovered
>what's important is some buttmad faggot who thinks a phone call is proof of murder
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>>64645218
>They do show all the evidence
No. There is shit that is brought up during the trial that shows Steve to be a scary, borderline retarded hillbilly rapist/stalker but the documentary leaves that footage out
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>>64645364
I'm not arguing that the evidence presented isn't fool proof. i'm arguing your point that you said

>they show all the evidence

um no they didn't.
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>>64645389
Like the letters he sent from jail? They show that, stupid. It was also not entered at evidence at trial because, you know, it was like not relevant to the matter at hand.
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>>64645403
I'm not sure you understand what "evidence" is. Evidence is the content of the state's argument presented at trial, and permitted to be entered at trial. So Steven's mean letters to his first wife aren't evidence. They may suggest he thinks the woman is a cunt, but I think you're a cunt, and I've never killed a third party because I thought you were a cunt. This is the state's evidence:

>car
>blood in car (non-DNA evidence "discovered under the hood latch" was not entered as evidence at Avery's trial; it was entered at Dassey's trial)
>cremains
>.22 bullet fragment
>key

That's it. That is all Ken Kratz submitted as evidence at trial. And all of it was rendered rather questionable by Deaner & Jer.
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>>64641618
He's so clearly an imbecile. I mean, in the truest, purest most technical sense of the word.
Fucking just admitted to murder and wonders if he's going to be on time to his next class to turn in a project!?
Every single level of law enforcement was handled by absolute creeps. I don't care if Steve DID do it, he deserves to be free since they couldn't lock him up properly.
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>>64645218
>No, they showed everything. I'm of course basing this off literally nothing because there is clearly evidence that isn't shown, like the calls to her phone, the phone in his burnt trash can, the fact that the bullet was fired from his illegally owned gun, all of his history of domestic sexual abuse, the non blood dna on the RAV4, the hand cuffs and rope purchase
>No, they included all of that
>It's not biased because I'm retarded.
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>people defending the US
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>>64645420
No not the goddamned letters.
THOSE made sense. Hell if I was going through half that shit I would be losing my damn mind too! Let my wife fucking complain about raising the kids while I'm fucking in prison for a rape I didn't do. I'd write some mean shit too.
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>>64645540
Justice System*
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>>64645540
hey that kinda looks like Steven's mother
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I would have thought Kratz or some of the other fucks would have been found dead or missing by now.

Anyone think something like this will happen?
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>>64645501
>That's it

But you're FUCKING WRONG.

I'm done. This is my last post to you because you are fucking dense as shit.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/167905/20160108/making-a-murderer-missing-evidence-from-steven-avery-case-see-the-full-list.htm

http://www.avclub.com/article/read-damning-evidence-against-steven-avery-making--230224

http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/06/making-a-murderer-subject-steven-avery-is-guilty-as-hell/

http://www.alternet.org/media/did-makers-making-murderer-leave-out-evidence-against-steven-avery
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Is this a 10 hour long episode of Dateline?
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>>64645501
YOU IDIOT
The point is if you just go by the show, yes he looks innocent
BECAUSE IN REAL LIFE THERE WAS OTHER EVIDENCE BROUGHT FORTH NOT SHOWN IN THE SHOW
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>>64645501
"Hey look guys I watched the documentary on Netflix and know everything about the case!"

You fucking idiot I can guarantee my left testicle that you didn't even read a news article on what the trial was about. If you did you would know that the documentary didn't show the following evidence used in court:

> The bullet is FORENSICALLY MATCHED to Steven's GUN.
>Steven had possesion of HANDCUFFS and CHAINS from prior relationships.
>The Key actually had DNA OF HIS SWEAT ON IT.
>He calls AUTOTRADER AND ASKS FOR TERESA SPECIFICALLY

Please next time you want to be a Macho Mando do some fucking research.
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>>64645606
>posting literal astroturf websites

I think i'll pass broski
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Who /PRIZE/ here?

>one social worker said he made a comment about oral sex to her before she testified in court and later told her he wanted the case to end so he could go to Las Vegas and have "big-boobed" women serve him drinks. Another social worker said he told her that he thought a court reporter had big breasts. Kratz said this comment never occurred because the court reporter actually does not have large breasts, thus he would never have said it.
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>>64645579
Lenk is in hiding
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>>64645656
>he wanted the case to end so he could go to Las Vegas and have "big-boobed" women serve him drinks
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>>64645647
>The Key actually had DNA OF HIS SWEAT ON IT.

That was covered in the show.

Now why didn't it have the victim's DNA on it? Also, where were all of the other keys that would have been with that one? Why did it take eight days to find it when it was sitting out in the open on the floor?
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>>64645869
Jesus I'm not arguing that the evidence isn't shady. I'm arguing the fact that the idiot keeps saying they showed all the evidence in the documentary which they didn't.
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>>64645869
>Now why didn't it have the victim's DNA on it? Also, where were all of the other keys that would have been with that one?
It was a spare key.
>Why did it take eight days to find it when it was sitting out in the open on the floor?
His place was a mess. Possibly it fell out from somewhere or it was overlooked. Not exactly an unprecedented event in an investigation. You need actual evidence it was planted or it remains a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories are not grounds for reasonable doubt.
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>get to episode ten
>see the new waifu about to defend Brendan
>see kratz
I hope that this is where the nymph meme comes in otherwise I missed it
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Robert Avery
>rapist
>murderer
>molester
>cat killer

But Reddit wants him freed because muh poor people and muh reasonable doubt.
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>>64647991
>Robert
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>>64646007
>Shifting the burden of proof to the defense.
Commie pls go
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http://strawpoll.me/6488020
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please someone tell me they are as mad as hell about the events portraied in this seriel
because i sure am
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>>64648919
>seriel
cereal
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And here i thought Judi was not an idiot.
>If I'm caught i go jail
>Nine days later Judi is caught drinking and spends 5 nights in jail

on a different note, americans can send people to jail for drinking?
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>>64650376
if you're on probation for a dui than yes
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>>64637574
That was surely intentional. I feel like Netflix put together the popularity of the West Memphis 3 story and True Detective and found the right people to put this thing together.
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>>64638058
Typical cops. These are the people 4chan will defend because "hating police is reddit desu!"
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>>64638594
I'm going to think of them when I jack off tonight. Just 4u
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>>64638594
that top tier husbando tho
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