Mexico is a shithole thanks to government corruption, cartels running the joint, and the wealth largely in the hands of established families. No surprise they want to come to the US.
If my wife was murdered and my daughter dumped in acid, I would lose my humanity. All I'd want is to kill the fuckers responsible.
As fucked up at is, the wife and kids are fair game in my eyes too. The wife is complicit with what her husband is and does. All that they own is built upon the blood and misery of others. The sons would grow up to be like their father. They're collateral damage in a war.
>>64590687 >No surprise they want to come to the US. They don't. They blame the U.S. almost 100% for all their drug problems, because most of the drugs are bought by Americans and most of the guns uses by the cartels are smuggled from America. The real pregunta is: are they right?
>>64590602 I agree. Trying to be noble is fine in comic books but in reality, most people would choose bloody vengeance.
What really boggles my mind is that these criminals think that there's no blowback to their actions. When you rob a man of his family, he has nothing to lose anymore. All he wants is revenge. Don't fuck with the everyday man who works a legitimate job because they put up with shit that would make anyone snap.
Of course they blame the US. Its just easier for them that way. The truth is the cartel problems of the 70s and 80s simply moved up north closer to the source of the revenue, and the Mexican gangs are too loaded with literal primates to share the wealth and be civilized about it. You don't see chopped up bodies dangling from high rises in Baltimore. These are literal barbarians who will attack mass demonstrations and concentrations of civilians with explosives as part of a dick waving competition with the other gangs.
>>64590769 Oh I agree that drug consumers are as much to blame. Their money is responsible for putting these guys in power, but the average user doesn't know nor care.
However why toil in a shitpile when you have opportunity amongst the hated gringos? I was in Cancun when those students "disappeared" and that's the sort of shit that can't fly under the radar here without bringing all sorta of heat.
The vast majority of first hand victims of the drug war do not end up to be the Punisher, they end up running for their lives. It wasn't Arnold Schwarzenegger with a vengeance who hunted down Pablo Escobar, it was the CIA.
>>64590687 I'm probably just an edgelord asshole but yeah. If anything, the movie never really takes the sympathic lens away from him no matter how absurdly dangerous and violent he gets. Like Charles Bronson in Death Wish.
Also him constantly saving/sparing/putting up with the bullshit from Emily Blunt made him seem really tragically noble and did nothing to emphasize "HE IS A BAD PERSON"
It's *almost* a straightforward Punisher or Jack Bauer kind of story.
>>64590671 >He didn't have much time to play with his food. We aren't shown how many guards are on the premises He's told by the drone guy that there are six people in the house, so he knows there was only one guard in the house and the maid won't be a problem.
>>64590877 You actually see shit equivalent, if not worse, than what we're seeing in Mexico right now in the low income places in the US like Baltimore, Detroit, etc.. I get it, you want to feel like the people with the lighter skin are infallible saints, but that's just not the case. Poor uneducated people will be shit no matter their skin color, you can stop living in your little bubble pretending the 'white race' is somehow superior to others.
And the blame is on everyone. The Mexicans for starting it, and the US for their shitty violence encouraging laws.
>>64590809 >What really boggles my mind is that these criminals think that there's no blowback to their actions.
Rich people don't have to suffer the consequences of their actions. Money can buy you all the financial and political security you need. The only blowback they'll ever face is when they're abandoned by their protectors.
The average user doesn't really grasp how his or her $50 purchase is filtering back to the drug supplier, they just see the guy on the corner or in the stall or their friend or whatever. And the fact of the matter is if you're going to blame users for the drug war, you might as well blame humanity for all scourges of the Earth because thats how broad that statement is.
Besides, people will always crave 'the harder stuff'. Tobacco in America ruled the 18th to 20th centuries. Hard liquor was king of America of the 19th and 20th centuries. Marijuana and hash became popular in the 20th century. People don't want the 'safe' stuff, people want to be risky. People want the 'harder' stuff that everyone says will make them go wild at risk of brain damage. Yeah its stupid but its also human nature.
>>64591162 I'm just saying people who use drugs, excluding weed since nowadays that shit is mostly domestic in first world countries, know more or less how the ladder works, when people think of coke they think of colombia and cartels
>You actually see shit equivalent, if not worse, than what we're seeing in Mexico right now in the low income places in the US like Baltimore, Detroit, etc.
You're comparing the lucrative Wild West full of guns and ammo, from sources as close to America to as far as China, to literal shitholes full of despair and glocks. And it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with culture. The gang culture of every nation south of Texas is raw viciousness, any history book will tell you that. Their native cultures and environments made them that way. Eric Holder shipped guns, he didn't give birth to armies of violent savages who think stuffing chopped dicks in peoples mouths is fun.
I know what you're saying. I wish legalized marijuana along with other legalized common narcotics (under regulation) could make the problem go away. But it won't. The government could legalize cocaine today and people will just ask for crockadile tomorrow because its dat new shit mang.
More like accept your world for what it is instead of trying to pain everything in shades of black white and grey. Circumstances shapes people. Gun merchants in America aren't out for the Mexicans, they're just selling stock for their livelihoods. Addicts aren't trying to fuel all evil in the world, they just want a little more spice in their lives. That doesn't make then innocent, but using the guillotine on all of them doesn't really recognize the problem as a whole. And being unable to recognize the nature of the beast will lead to ineffective decisionmaking, like cutting off the head of the beast and turning it into a hydra instead. The campaign on drugs has to be fought at all levels of many societies - a coordinated effort using many different approaches. Simply blaming and sending armed men at one aspect of the problem and hoping it works doesn't do jack shit.
>>64591324 well maybe, but if that were entirely true Research chems would be way more popular, I can buy 10,000 tabs of 1P-LSD right now if i wanted, or 3-FPM or clonazolam or whatever type of drug I wanted, legally, and these drugs will all get banned and probably forgotten about, people want brand recognition with their drugs because they assume they are safer. ecstasy is really the only RC drug I can think of that got real mainstream attention and stayed popular (unlike say bathsalts)
>>64591179 >Besides, knowing that you're responsible for their deaths is the worst punishment to inflict before you get plugged. Meaning the only reason he killed his family was to make his mortal enemy suffer for about 20 seconds or so.
I'd call that even more deranged. If you can't get to the guy and kill his family instead? Make sense from a revenge perspective. But this? He might as well have tortured the guy and let his family go. No actual difference.
The real hurdle for legal drugs is ease of acquisition. Look at the post Baltimore riot situation. Its not cocaine that people are buying, its all the legal prescription drugs that was looted from the pharmacy. Put marijuana behind 20 barriers and checks, don't act surprised when people just hand cash money to their dealer instead. There needs to be a government approach that directs more users towards legalized drugs without looking like its trying to make new addicts.
>>64591252 That's why I said worse shit happens there, friendo. And don't even try to deny you were gonna try to push some white supremacist bullshit, this is how you closeted 4chinners always start this shit. >>64591289 Stop trying to pretend people South of the US border are the only people to do shit like this. In the parts of the US that are as bad as the bad parts of Mexico you see worse shit, and a lot of times it's not even related to something illegal like drugs or prostitutes. You could even argue shit like the persistent mass shootings taking place in the US are just as bad, they're just not as 'graphic' as some of the dick stuffing shit you see in Mexico because of the culture difference like you said. People are just as violent where ever you go, we just perceive them to be more violent in cases like these because of our own culture differences.
>>64591731 Look up "mass shootings 2015" and prepare to be surprised. I won't provide you with any links since it will be easy for you to look up, and you can't blame me of being a liberal cuck sjw or whatever you kids call each other nowadays.
And just an fyi, Tamaolipas is a fucking warzone, last time I passed by there I saw no cops at all, gunshots everywhere, 'abandoned' houses everywhere. Juarez also used to be like that, and had killings like that one, things have calmed down there a bit though. >>64591757 Maybe you should go to Mexico and find out for yourself what Mexican culture is like. :)
>>64593602 The main character of Sicario was irrelevant to the plot. The black character was irrelevant to the plot. The cop character was irrelevant to the plot. The glasses guy was irrelevant to the plot.
>>64593602 >>64593562 What was teh point of the dude who tried to strangle Blunt? How did he advance the plot? Seems like the whole scene was just another way to show how BLunt's character was way out of her depth.
>>64593856 So fucking contrived. Blunt just happens to notice the wrist band at the bank, and Shane just happens to need to TAKE HIS KEYS OUT HIS POCKET IN ORDER TO TAKE HIS PANTS OFF, REVEALING HE'S EVIL SHANE. ITS FUCKING STUPID.
>>64596256 Did you listen to Matt or whatever his name was?
He explains it plainly: the Medellin cartel was bad, but having just one cartel was still a lot better than having countless cartels struggling for power. The CIA knows they can never truly wipe out the cartels altogether so they also want the Medellin cartel back.
>>64590958 as 'evil' and driven by revenge as he may be, he still represents the righteous and good with that in mind, i think everyone can identify with the feeling of a need for vengeance even if they have no intention of ever acting upon it - living vicariously through others .. isn't this part of the appeal of movies?
>>64597525 I wouldn't exactly call it righteous and good. It's more about how far we're willing to go in order to keep that kind of crazy senseless violence away from our loved ones. So he does a lot of seemingly bad things but with the intention of protecting others from the evil that was done upon his family.
I guess it's asking the question if the ends justify the means. Doing bad things to protect naive idiots like Emily Blunts character because our laws can't touch those drug lords.
So he is a very unpleasant character, but he does what he believes he has to.
>>64590809 >>64590931 Both of you guys have a point. But victims of first hand usually go to other cartels or places where they can find a chance for revenge. Hell even in small drug stuff this happens like in City of god.
>>64597640 He used to be a prosecutor and then he turned into a hitman after his family was killed. He used to work for the colombians and they name him as medellin. The medellin cartel was active in the 80's to early 90's which probably means he has been a hitman since. So he has a couple of decades of experience when it comes to killing people.
>>64592211 >Maybe you should go to Mexico and find out for yourself what Mexican culture is like. :) Beaner here. Dude, Mexico have a hard on for violence and brutal stuff, is cultural, since Mexicas, the tribute to death, the sacrifices, eternal conflict.
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