>Kylo Ren worships Vader and collect original trilogy artifacts
>Rey has a rebel helmet and doll in her home
>Finn and Rey both recognize Luke and Han through the stories told about them
>Rey has pretty much diefied Luke
>First line of the film: "This will begin to make things right."
>Entire thing is just a remake of the first Star Wars movie
So this film is some sort of postmodern commentary on fanboyism, isn't it?
only thing im intrigued about is... Reys parents.
It was implied they abandonded her on that desert planet thats totally not tatooine, maybe they were hiding her just like they did with Luke and Leia.
Also i dont remember about Reys vision when she touched the light saber, where those memories or premonitions... hhmmm...
I think he saw the pottery and his brain refused to see his version as the EXTEME 90s teen version that it was.
>New Luke is even younger
>New Obi-wan is even stronger and wiser
>New T16 is faster
Oh no, you guys the leg is going to crush her ahhhhhhhhhhhh
See it was so bad you forgot it even existed.
>So this film is some sort of postmodern commentary on fanboyism, isn't it?
I found it to be a glib facsimile
In terms of the storytelling yes. It's 3 literally whos we don't care about, fighting over planet we don't care about, in highly over-choreographed stunt showcase with no stakes undercut with footage of some boring palace raid/space donut battle/CGI only "Jar Jar is soooo wacky xD" cartoon war.
Why did Boyega look so much more professional on 24 Live Another Day?
>the same episodes Boyega appears in, they keep showing a map of Africa
He knows his place
Disney or Abrams may have unironically thought that slavishly copying the OT would be the respectful return to form the series needed.
or they may have thought acting like that would convince fans of the OT of their sincerity in trying to make a worthy sequel.
either way they are delusional as fuck. anyone who is smart enough to notice that kind of subtext is going to be annoyed by the wholesale pointless lifting of ideas.
>delusional as fuck
Highest grossing film in American history, third highest grossing film of all time. They know exactly what they're doing. It wasn't a mistake on Disney's part, it was pure market-driven cynicism.
>anyone who is smart enough to notice that kind of subtext is going to be annoyed by the wholesale pointless lifting of ideas.
I wasn't annoyed. The borrowed ideas are part and parcel of the subtext OP points out. If the film is about OT's relationship to a modern audience, then you sort of need to have familiar elements in it.
Kylo is literally a Darth Vader fanboy, what more proof do you need? His character represents the collective angst of diehard fans of the original trilogy
He wants desperately to emulate Vader, to return to what he believes was best. His shortsighted manchild-ness reflects the typical prequel decrying nerds who fail to recognize faults of their precious memories.
It is therefore fitting that his father is Han Solo and that he later kills him. Harrison Ford has by far had the most successful acting career out of the OT. His character's spawn betraying him and ending his life is meant to be symbolic of how the despite having a varied and beloved career, the fame of Star Wars always followed Ford anywhere he went. However the iconic roles through Fords career acted for the continual dismantling of that Han Solo identity adhered to him. Hamill is always Luke, Fischer is always Leia, but Ford was Indy, The blade runner, Mr President, the Fugitive, etc.. . Now as an old man he is in the real world finally forced to turn around and face the entity he gave birth too - the same as Han does to Kylo - by doing one final Star Wars film. Death is the punishment for abandoning the world and character he helped create, and for believing he could escape his destiny.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE YOUR JUDGEMENT IS CLOUDED
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>Ra carries a staff…so does Rey Ra has a head of a Falcon…Rey is the new “head” of the Millennium Falcon. Also, in ancient Egypt the Eyes are very important and we know that in TFA eyes player a important part via Maz.
>Ra, as the sun god, travels across the sky during the day and then through the underworld at night. Every sunrise he is “reborn” and brings new life and order to the world. What I find interesting in Episode VII is that the moment the Force really “clicks” with Rey is during her battle with Kylo Ren, which happens to be in darkness (since the Starkiller base had just finished powering up). So maybe Rey realizing her powers could be a symbolic “sunrise” or “rebirth” in this case. (Assuming Rey and Luke are related…) In a more big-picture sense you could argue that “Skywalker” could mean “sun” since the sun does, in a sense, walk through the sky. Interesting to note that “Luke” (the name) can be interpreted to mean “light”, and while “Rey” generally means “king”, you could also think of “Ray” as in “a beam of light”.
>It's 3 literally whos we don't care about, fighting over planet we don't care about, in highly over-choreographed stunt showcase with no stakes undercut with footage of some boring palace raid/space donut battle/CGI only "Jar Jar is soooo wacky xD" cartoon war.
You could at least make the effort to better paraphrase your complaint so that it's less obvious that you are parroting what you heard in the Plinkett reviews.
This is actually unironically what they did. Episode 8 is going to be so different from the original trilogy so they made this one a nostalgiafest to compensate and criticize.
>esb isn't better than anh
>luke was a cheap mary sue in ANH
Just a reminder that people who call ANH Luke a mary sue probably never watched ANH. Luke is a whiny faggot who tags along on an adventure with Obi Wan and Han and is constantly carried by them
>So this film is some sort of postmodern commentary on fanboyism, isn't it?
Yes. I didn't mind though- just a shame they didn't leave it at that without also repeating major plot elements.
Just like if a white person criticizes The Force Awakens, it's just racism!
When Kylo was reading her mind he said he saw an island in the ocean, coincidentally that is the location of the first jedi temple where Luke was hiding. She was probably trained as a child then when Kylo started murdering all the younglings Luke wiped her memories and hid her on a planet
>It's 3 literally whos we don't care about, fighting over planet we don't care about
It's almost like this applies to The Force Awakens 100%
And even the people in-universe didn't care about the planets being destroyed by Starkiller.
>He wants desperately to emulate Vader, to return to what he believes was best. His shortsighted manchild-ness reflects the typical prequel decrying nerds who fail to recognize faults of their precious memories.
Metal Gear Solid 2 did this better, with Raiden wanting to emulate Solid Snake and the fanbase hating Raiden because he wasn't Solid Snake.
Everyone onboard the Millenium Falcon reacted to Alderaan blowing up.
And Ben said he literally felt it in the Force.
Nobody gave two shits about Hosnian Prime blowing up.
And it doesn't even make sense why everybody even saw Hosnian Prime blowing up.
The habitable zone isn't terribly large, so the planets being in similar orbits is not at all far fetched. And there would be times where they're on opposite sides of the star, and others where they orbit close together. So the position of their orbits and the time of the film is extremely plausible.
>they could put it anywhere
>Hosnian Prime is a Core planet, D'gar is Mid Rim
>the people of D'Gar see Hosnian Prime clearly blowing up
The lore people should have contacted JJ. This isn't a flaw in the film because the planet was made up for the film; they could place it anywhere. It's a problem with the people who made that star map.