>>64570171 This pleb. No. The acting was trash in Blackhat. The hacking scenes were crjngeworthy and the love story was hamfisted.
Sicario literally did everything better. And I love Mann films too. Ever since the random threads popped up on here shilling this to be a good movie its became a hivemind. Its simply not good though no matter how hard you try to like it..
Shit film and very dissappointing too considering Mann is usually very solid. It was just a sloppy film and everyone of his previous films did something better then in this movie. Literally nothing stands out. Good movie to watch when bored but Jesus christ you have to be trolling thinking its best of year
>>64570842 He was arrested before he could graduate MIT in a bar fight and became a criminal when released. He robbed four banks and was eventually caught and got even more prison gains. Pay attention.
>"neat a movie about hacking" >fucking Hemsworth >whatever he might surprise me in a role of the opposite spectrum >watch trailer >hes a buff prisoner being recruited >*pew pew* action welp... this is just another meme thread move along
>>64570171 Mann's subjects are much more fundamental and timelessly relevant. Sicario is "important" and relevant only to the extent that its subjects, the Drug War and the US involvement in it, are relevant, which is obviously only over the course of a few decades.
The struggles of Mann's characters are applicable to a far greater time scale than a few decades.
>>64570351 lol, what a superficial analysis. >acting >tech scenes >Sicario did everything better It's just another thriller, competently done, with an "important" subject. Many other filmmakers could've made just as good a movie about the same thing, because it's not that hard.
>>64570842 one of the worst "criticisms" in this pleb hole of a forum. Actors tend to be good-looking. You'd have to question most every role Leo, Brad Pitt, etc. etc. has been in if you get your pleb panties in a bind over Hemsworth being used here.
>>64571782 >It's just another thriller, competently done, with an "important" subject. Many other filmmakers could've made just as good a movie about the same thing, because it's not that hard. Are you talking about Blackhat or Sicario?
>>64571782 >Any director could have made a movie as good as sicario about the same topic.
The cinematography was too notch. The on site locations were also shot beautifully and the writing was phenomenal. Plebs will tell you the writing was weak but they cant understand the characters the director is portraying and how they speak.
Savages was similar in the whole cartel revenge and that movie was complete shit. And the whole fucking point of this movie wasnt an "important" topic you imbecile. It is just giving a glimpse into the dirty wars the cia has been involved in the past whether on not this is an accurate story it gives you the idea of things they will do or are capable of doing for their agenda
>>64572212 Sicario. It's just about the "complicated" strategy required to mitigate the fallout of the Latin-American-US drug business, told with an interesting but not remarkable lawyer-turned hitman out for revenge, and an (awfully conceived) FBI agent/new recruit.
Nothing is particularly interesting, deep, creative or innovative about the movie, but it was competently made in all respects and del Toro's characters was a bit "fresh." Other than that, Blunt's character bordered on awful with her unbelievable naivety and "detached" anxiety about the "drug war behind the scenes." No way a 30-year-old FBI agent would be shaken up or surprised that the things in the film happen. That's pure "made-for-movies" melodrama.
It's a competent, better than average thriller, nothing more.
>>64572280 That isnt a criticism. The ending made complete sense itwas the whole operation they were planning... Are you actually retarded? The point was they make enough noise so they can get the number 3 guy to go back to mexico amd get the location of the number 1. Then thats where Benicio comes in to take him out. Is it "call of duty dumb action shit" because people thought it was cool? It was completely operator how it went down. They had a drone to get vision before hand and gave him the route he had the complete element of surprise too. What is unbelievable about it?
>>64572550 it is an "important" topic. They wouldn't have made the movie if it weren't. Doing little sting missions across borders and torturing people isn't interesting in itself. It's interesting because the US gov't is doing it, making it very relevant.
>>64571627 That a MIT grad that goes to jail for computer crimes becomes a hardened phonebook armor wearing shiv master At first they introduce him by doing the commissary thing which was great that's how some one like that should survive in prison doing shit for the other inmates that make them less likely to bend him over bunk and have fun for the night. Then as the investigation continues he goes from computer hacker with kind of a knowledge about systems and this code to someone who OK understands how other hackers work to fucking Sherlocke Holmes with intimate understanding of the criminal mindset. And the FBI start dragging his ass to places he has no god damned business. There is no reason for him to be at the scene of these criminal take downs unless there's a computer he need to go through and even then his ass should be in the car until team is through, there is no reason for him to be the one that had to go into the nuclear power plant.
The fact that the earlier cyber attacks were dry runs for something else was painfully obvious and not the FBI or the Chinese government could see that But that pump bullshit was the big key that let him know what was going on.
I have never liked the fall in love in a day thing. Especially to the degree of I'm going to throw away my career to live as a fugitive with this guy I met what less than a week ago. Admittedly as a millionaire.
Now back to the Noble Prison Warrior Bullshit. Him being smart about the set up at the building cool him expecting a double cross cool Him getting the better of three guys with guns one of whom had been in war zones and was a mercenary for like the past 30 years of his life was hilarious. And I mean in a straight face off. He didn't sneak up on him he didn't hack the city grid to make another car run into him at a red light then just go up and finish the job.
>>64572808 And youtake that as literal. Ahahaha i hope you realize that was his cover for being their. Kind of like how Brolin kept telling her he is a DoD advisor. They literally say in the movie he works for the Colombian's and he goes where ever hes needed. Hes basically a hired hitman
>>64572897 You haven't made any point. You just typed in some baseless accusations and greentexted movie names with "no" after them. You haven't given one reason for anyone to believe anything you've said. I doubt you can even explain how the movie was "ugly" while another movie isn't ugly without looking up reviews for each.
And most of those movies are garbage, not "average."
It's clear Sicario just ticked all the boxes and "looked pretty," therefore you think it's remarkable. It's not really any different from a Fincher movie in that respect, but you are too ignorant to tell the different between great and merely better than average.
>>64573051 It literally is a /tv/ meme. 31% on RT 51% Metacritic, 5.8/10 IMBD, i dont use that as a method of judging a movie but ive seen te movie as well and it is shit run of the mill thriller its shot even like a mediocre thriller. Just a bunch of cuts. Only redeeming factor of the movie were a couple gun fights that looked nice.
Also just because it did a mediocre job at showing hacking doesnt mean anyone gives a shit about a good portrayal of hacking or that it even fucking matters for the quality if the movie.
>>64573199 You're telling me the scene where they just start walking up to chris and the gang and start shooting at them and the one dude gets shot in the head that it looks nice? That whole sequence looked like I was watching a liam neeson action movie. Also the final shootout was very muddled shots. Once you actually watch film you will understand. Its okay though capeshit will be comjng back soon and you can go back to watching that and stay away from bigboy thrillers
>>64573452 He spoke to another prosecutor who knew him for years before he tortured the fat guy. He was actually a lawyer. You're good at coming up with insults (saying "fucking retard" over and over) but not actually good at backing up your claims.
>>64573486 I hope you realize they were saying he was a prosecutor and now youre saying hes a regular lawyer for the cartels. When they say prosecutor they imply working for the state. How the fuck are you coming up with lawyer for the mexican cartels? He never worked for them. He worked for the Colombians
>>64573794 THAT DOESN'T MATTER. HE WAS A REGULAR GUY WHO WORKED FOR THE COLOMBIANS IN SOME LEGAL FASHION, AND ONCE HE LOST HIS FAMILY HE TURNED INTO FRANK FUCKING CASTLE. IT'S A FUCKING VIDEOGAME CHARACTER ORIGIN IS A STUPID FUCKING MOVIE.
>>64573863 YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD. THE BLACK DUDE IN THE MOVIE HAS HIS LAW DEGREE AND IS A FIELD FBI AGENT. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HIGH UP POSITIONS IN THAT FIELD COULD BE CONSIDERED LAWYERS. HE CLEARLY HAD TRAINING AND HAD BEEN DOING OPS LIKE THAT FOR AWHILE. DID IT EVER ONCE IN THE MOVIE SHOW HIM AS THE TYPICAL LAWYER AND IS WEAK AND ISNT TRAINED INTHE FIELD? JUST BECAUSE IT DOESNT SHOW HIS PRIOR TRAINING DOESNT MAKE HIM A FUCKIN MARY SUE. STICK TO MOVIES WHERE ITS SHOW AND TELL SINCE YOU CANT COMPREHEND UNLESS ITS EXPLICITLY STATED. WAS HE THE NEW ONE ON THE TEAM? NO IT WAS EMILY BLUNT WHO WAS CLEARLY THE ONE NOT TRAINED PROPERLY FOR WHAT THEY WERE DOING
IM LITERALLY PROVING YOU TO BE AN IDIOT RIGHT NOW HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT FELL FUCKING AUTIST
>>64572550 Oh fuck you villeneuve is a hack, it was a mediocre story backed up by an amazing cinemtographer. The movie was okay at best. The only genuinely watchable film that came out this year is The Lobster, everything else that has come out is reddit teir crap they feed to pseudo-film buffs such as yourself.
heh. If you're referring to Sicario, "Fincher 2.0" would be more precise.
Villenueve is no different from Nolan, Fincher, or even BrBa. Neo-cinephiles get tricked into thinking these movies are remarkable because they look very nice, superficially, and the story and acting usually have no glaring flaws.
That's as deep and sophisticated as your "analysis" goes, so because it ticks all your superficial boxes, you go "wow, such art!!" And for the same reason, you have to dismiss a movie if it doesn't neatly tick all your boxes with traditional plot and dialogue.
This is also why you have to resort to appeals to popularity and authority--you can't articulate anything about thematic depth, visual storytelling or characterization.
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