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>Mads Mikkelsen (Galen appears to be his name in the film) is kind of the key to the film in a way. He is a scientist that took over the Geonosian Death Star project. He solved several of the flaws the Empire could not and is sort of a revered person in the Empire for his contributions. However, Mikkelsen’s character is a Robert Oppenheimer-type character. Oppenheimer helped design the atomic bomb only to say, “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” The guilt “Galen” feels for his contributions to the Empire become too much and he defects, attempting to make things right. In order to do this, he enlists the help of his only daughter….
>Felicity Jones’ character has to undo the devastation her family has unleashed onto the galaxy
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>strong womyn leads a squadron of men in a covert operation

dropped
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feminism: the movie. This is going to flop so hard.
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Hype for Mads. Glad he isn't strictly a bad guy in this one. I feared he was being typecasted again.
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>>64555519
Just like TFA!
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When does the movie take place in the timeline?
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>>64555547
This. Great to see him in more big budget productions.
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>>64555585
Same time as ANH.
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>GOAT cast
>OT stormtroopers and vehicles
>Gritty war movie in the SW universe
>Interesting plot
>Vader likely to appear

I'm in.
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>>64555612
Isn't it before the events in ANH?
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>absolutely no ties into Rebel what so ever

/co/fags BTFO
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>>64555585
Just before A New Hope. Its about stealing the death star plans so just before Leia gets them in ANH is my guess
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>>64555653
you forgot

>Shadowtroopers being in a live action Star Wars film
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>>64555688
maybe leia will appear in the movie
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>>64555460
>>64555519
>autism
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trailer is rumoured to drop with Cap: Civil War
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>>64555585
between III and IV
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HOLY SHIT WHO CARES ABOUT THIS SHIT MOVIE IF WE ALREADY KNOW THE EMPIRE WILL GET THEIR BIG TOY BTFO twice [/twice]
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So basically a live action Battlefront.

FUCK. YES.
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>>64555796

It's not believable at all

this is supposed to be their "gritty, realistic" SW adaptation

not to mention how fucking unbearably obvious it is that they're shoehorning these roles in
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>>64555422
>Galen
They're going to call him Galen just to snipe the name from the EU fags now that Force Unleashed isn't canon.
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Two movies so far, and two woman protagonists.
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>>64555741
As CGI?
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Grimdark star wars movie when?
Just gritty won't please my autism. I want a -16 star wars movie with clones or storm trooper living hell on some shitty planet and "it ain't me playing" when they introduce the main characters
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>>64555951
Disney's done it before.
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>>64555923

STOP BEING SO SEXIST

GIRLS NEED THEIR STRONG FEMALE POWER CHARACTER ROLE MODELS

WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR FRANCHISE, ITS AN AGENDA NOW

JUST TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN
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So is it going to have Bothans in it? They helped steal the Death Star plans didn't they?
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>>64555982
That was the 2nd death star
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>>64555519
youre still going to watch it though
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>>64555923
oh NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>64555422
I wonder how many Bothans died for this movie...
Oh right: NONE because they didn't hire a single bothan actor.
Fuck Disney.
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Is "Why aren't there any Bothans" a meme? Don't people know the Bothans got the plans for the second death star?

I keep seeing people say it.
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would have been cooler like a heist movie
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>>64555982
Thatll be Rogue 2
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>>64556026
>bothan actor
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>>64556006

I actually may not

I didn't get any lasting joy from TFA and it's clear that they aren't interested in quality creative material

this SJW shit is just the icing on the shit cake right here
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So far this movie sounds like it's shaping out pretty well.
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>>64555923
Yet you're gonna watch it anyway.
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>>64555923
How many blockbusters have male protagonists?
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>>64556026
WRONG DEATH STAR
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>>64556167
Why do you care about it so much?

The only annoying thing in TFA for me was Rey telling Finn to let go of her hand the second time, I was fine with it the first time but the second time was a bit forced and made me roll my eyes.

I don't remember any SJW pandering in the rest of the film though unless simply having a female main character is now SJW pandering.
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>>64556320

This doesn't fit into the Star Wars universe at all. Take a look around the room at the Rebel Alliance in ANH.

I wouldn't give half a shit if they were doing this in a new IP but it's clear that they're shoehorning their agenda into a franchise they already know has significant pull and fanbase.
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>>64555422
FUCK DAMN IT
I wanted Mads to be the fucking villain.
Site a source motherfuck.
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>>64555422
this actually shares a lot of similarities to the Star Wars d6 adventure "starfall" except the daughter worked for the empire, it involved star destroyers instead of death star, and the PCs are trying to help him defect.

awesome adventure.
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>>64556364
>a 70's movie was sexist
STOP THE PRESSES
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god when will this meme end? Women are not suited for action adventure lead roles.

They belong in horror/survival flicks where their feminine traits actually come into play

>ie any horror movie ever, Alien, Terminator etc

Just feels wrong. Same with in TFA.
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>>64556356

They are perverting Star Wars with their bias. Rey was perfect in every way and basically Kathleen Kennedy's fanfic addition. I have no doubt they're going to go on to push her as "le GOATiest Jedi of all time". Nevermind that it's cheap and non-engaging, it's about having some kind of generic power fantasy broadcast to the world.

As far as Rogue Squadron, it was basically all-male in ANH and that's par for reality. These are still human beings even if they live amongst alien species. Why shoehorn another female power fantasy into a leadership role in a "gritty" SW movie featuring them? Kills realism and is non-cohesive.
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>>64556447
>Women are not suited for action adventure lead roles.
Only because you're not used to it.

Kids growing up now will be used to it.
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>>64555422
How much are you willing to bet that they will do some extremely lore-unfriendly retcon like the Death Star blowing some planet up even though it's clearly stated that Alderaan was the first planet it destroyed?
Or even worse, it's revealed that this Death Star is ANOTHER one and not the one we see in IV.
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>>64556421

Real life is "sexist", anon. Leia was still a progressive addition.
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What happened to /tv/
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>>64556155
Rogue 2 : stealth space goats cuck the empire

I wish we could have a SINGLE star wars movie were the bad guys aren't an incompetent bunch of losers
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>>64556369
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/01/rogue-one-star-wars-story-father-daughter-destroyer-worlds/
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>Wait the director is Garath Evens? The guy that did the Raid movies? FUCKING AWESOME!
>...
>No, it's Garath Edwards, the guy who made the last... Godzilla movie.
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>>64556535
No shit.
Kids mimic what they see in culture.
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>>64556500

Hopefully "violence against women" will stop being a thing too then since apparently they can take a knock on the chin just like any other dude, right

I'm sure feminists will be pushing for the end of discriminatory favoritism there
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>>64556510
I could see Mads Mikkelsen the death star engineer purposely building a thermal exhaust port leading to the reactor system so he would know about the one weakness and tell the rebels/luke about it
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>>64556510
Punished "Venom" Death Star
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Now, I am become Yoda
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>Mads' name is Galen
>There has been a Galen Marek
>tfw this is the Galaxy's version of John
Hnnnng dat world building. LukeS said Kenobi was like Smith for them but there was only Obi-wan, making that seem BS. LukeS BTFO yet again.
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>>64556584

Yeah, men being combat leaders is just a "social construct", I'm so sure
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>>64555661
Diego Luna will surprise reveal himself as Ezra at the end of the movie and he dies holding off Vader while the survivors escape and transmit the plans
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>>64556577
No. I refuse to believe it.
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>Mads is now in starshit
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is the death star exhaust port problem Galens fault or sheevs budgeting ?
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Is he human or Geonosian? Or another alien? Or do we know?
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>>64556583
The only thing he did wrong with godzilla was to not use some pop-rock music during the final fight.
I hope he won't forget and will put some sum41 during the most epic x-wing vs tie fighters dogfight scene
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>>64556583
>anime rxn image

Leave
NOW
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>>64556683
He's is in Capeshit, too. Dude sold out hard
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>>64555898
Seems like half of the EU was called Galen.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galen
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>Now, I am become Death Star, the destroyer of worlds.
Bravo
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>>64556510
2 death stars would explain why it took so long to construct the first one, I guess?
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>>64556748
I thought it was the british cucumber guy who was strange phd
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>>64556748
>>64556748
Madsy needs a new garage.
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>>64555422
This film is wookiepedia levels of autism. Why does such a small detail in the original film need a multi-million dollar backstory? Some guys died getting the plan. Why do we need 2 hour to show how this happened?
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>>64556783
He is, Mads will be the villain(Maybe, his role hasn't been confirmed yet).
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>>64556735
>Getting triggered by anime reaction pics
I don't think 4Chan is the place for you, buddy
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>Now, I am become Starkiller Base, the killer of stars
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>>64556792
The fact that they're making a Han Solo and Boba Fett movie indicates that they have no new ideas
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>>64556482
Who cares if Rey is perfect in every way? She wasn't, but even if she was she came out as the least interesting character in the film anyway so why are you bothered that she was "perfect"

I don't even know where to begin with your second point, it was basically all male and why shoe horn a female into a leadership role?

What is Leia? What is Mon Mothma? These were both women in a leadership role in a militia.

And kills realism? really? are you going too shout at the screen in anger every time a woman kills someone on a fantasy planet with a weapon that doesn't obey the laws of physics because a woman couldn't kill a man in real life or something?

Also the rebel alliance is massively underpowered small force compared to the empire, do you really think in reality they'd say "well, we do need more soldiers to help in our cause but you're a woman, so you'll actually be no help whatsoever", they'd be trying to recruit as many people as they can get, children are weaker than adults and yet child soldiers are still a thing.


I don't know if your post is bait or why I'm even trying to respond to something that is so stupid I can't wrap my brain around it, but here we are.
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>>64556606
Now, Yoda I am become
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>>64555422

I just want there to be Y-Wings; which TFA was sorely lacking.
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>>64556924
There were hardly any in the OT.
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>>64556364
>Take a look around the room at the Rebel Alliance in ANH
You mean the one with Leia calling the shot ?
And RotJ had a female leader for the rebellion too.

I don't like female pandering either but it completly fits with the SW universe.
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>>64555923
You can't blame Disney for trying to bank on that Disney Princess money.
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>>64556583
Monsters war pretty good
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>>64556591
They actually do. At least the sane ones. Hell, I don't know any progressive person who cares about chivalry these days anyway.
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>>64556998

She wasn't an operational leader

Think about it, a female higher up like brass or a politician isn't that far-fetched, but a female sergeant leading guys through the operation and grit?
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>>64556792
Because they can show us Darth Vader again and beat Avatar a second time in a row with that.
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>>64556905
Rey is the most retarded thing in any star wars movie. Shes the new Jar Jar. And yes shes fucking perfect at everything she does.

Mary Sue piece of shit character
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>>64557034

No they don't. They've been causing an unholy shitstorm about NFL domestic violence and elsewhere. Never mind the fact that football players regularly get into fights with guys as well.

Feminists are selfish, inconsistent assholes. It's about all the good things about being a man but none of the bad. I don't think it's "fedora" tier to be critical of a movement that wants all the charm and none of the responsibility.
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>>64555422
>gritty, realistic
Why?

I'm fine with TFA being a soft rehash of ANH by the way.
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>>64556714

Imperial scientist implies human because the Empire was speciest.

Coruscant and the "core worlds" like Alsakan and Kuat were mostly human; and they had this thing called "Human High Culture."

In Star Wars Episode II, there's a quick scene where the Goenosian king gives Count Dooku the Death Star plans. It was planned by them, but Mads improved it and made it work.
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>>64557078
What the fuck you on about man? Leia was on the ground and in the shit fighting troopers in every ot movie.
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>>64557078
>but a female sergeant leading guys through the operation and grit?

So? You have never heard about badass female soldiers like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko before?
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>>64555661
Hidalgo promised that there will be "major" connections between Rebels and Rogue One.
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>>64557144

She didn't go on the Death Star run with them
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>>64555422
>Felicity Jones
Won't even bother downloading a DVD screener
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>>64557130
so you have no taste

thanks for clarifying
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>>64557151
This is the second thread on /tv/ I've been in today where she is mentioned.

But this anon is right, plenty of women have led soldiers through successful operations.
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Is there still a link out there to the short footage shown at D23?
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>>64557186
Because she isn't a fucking pilot?
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>>64557151

Sniping is something women are capable at
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>>64557215
Go be contrarian somewhere else
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>>64557217

But that woman wasn't a unit leader?

I really can't think of an instance of a central operational role
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>>64557126
You're just talking about feminazis. There are many women who want real equality even if it includes negative aspects too. Because believe it or not, most women would also hold the door open for you because that's how you are supposed to treat other people in our society, regardless of gender.
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>>64557252
Fucking read a history book, m8.

http://militaryhistorynow.com/2013/05/15/women-warriors-meet-seven-of-historys-most-amazing-female-commanders/
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>>64557186
She wasn't a pilot?
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>>64557251

She isn't a ground trooper either

she stuck with the main protag group in Han Solo/Luke/Chewie etc., she wasn't a sergeant out there in the battle of Hoth
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>>64557275
Lots of times, fucking Google man.
>>64557288
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Oppenheimer was a traitor?
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>>64557259
go use your meme words on reddit
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>>64557328
Did you even watch? She was commanding with the other commanders in the Battle of Hoth.
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>>64557345
Hello, Reddit
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>>64557093
>I do not understand what a "mary sue" is, but I will parrot it anyway
>I want to fit in
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Holy shit it's never been as obvious as this that the guys here have never touched a women before.
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>>64557143
all of the human high culture stuff is not canon anymore

in the canon stuff the empire uses aliens, the inquisitors in star wars rebels are all aliens
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>>64557288

>a few cherrypicked and isolated cases with limited historical record compared to the millions of male cases

I'm going to go with "anomaly" here
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>>64557374
Hi, Mark, how's your sex life?
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>>64556026
Different Death Star, fagit
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>>64555422
Galen is the key to all of this
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>>64557374
Shouldn't you be taking your wife's son to the movies.
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>>64557374

No, I have. That's mostly why I have trouble suspending my disbelief when they're shoehorned into roles like this on a regular basis.
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>>64557416
Because men wouldn't allow them to fight?

Use common sense.

If there are less women, there would be less women commanders. Not all women can be warriors, neither can all men. But more men are warriors.

Even if they are anomaly, what is the point you're trying to make about Leia? Then she is an anomaly.
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>>64557364

I already said, a female brass is not that far fetched, even if rare
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>>64557417
Its great this anons mom>>64557473
is tight af
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>>64557502

Well we have two new Star Wars movies now and supposedly both of their main, power leads are women.

Do the math
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Will Sheev Jerky appear in this film?
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>>64555422
Sauce?
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>>64557416
Sorry I chose one with just 7. The website is cursory with information, but you can Google any of these names and find very detailed historic records.

Need more? Here are some modern day examples from just the USA.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-impressive-women-in-the-military-2013-7?op=1
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>>64557574

>a website ambiguously talking up the achievements of a few women for political points

Honestly if those are the "most" impressive cases that isn't very impressive. There were doctors, brass, someone who "helped" defend a place.

How about this

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/04/07/last-ioc-in-marine-experiment-drops-two-officers/25418867/
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>>64557542
>Oh no, I cannot relate to the main character unless it is a white male I can self-insert has
>There aren't enough movies with white male main characters!
>6 movies in the franchise with male leads excluding Leia is not enough.
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>>64557542
>Well we have two new Star Wars movies now and supposedly both of their main, power leads are women

Just read what you just wrote and tell me that this isnt the most strereotypical virgin thing to say
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>>64557648
What, breaking records and doing shit that you have never done and never will do, despite being male?
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>>64557666

See, here's the attitude that just turns me off

>YOURE GONNA TAKE YOUR 2016 VERSION OF STAR WARS AND YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT, YOU HEAR?? WE'RE MAKING UP FOR OPPRESSION HERE. STAR WARS IS OURS NOW
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>>64557666
>white suburban kid post
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>>64557567
I'm looking forward to Vader showing up at the end and slaughtering most of the main characters.

Honestly I'm hoping all the main characters die but they still managed to get the plans sent to the Tantive IV
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>>64555654
>>64555612
Just days before I think. Its all about getting the plans to the death star
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>>64557687

I wouldn't consider myself the most impressive male desu. I'm fine with not having delusions of grandeur.

>>64557680

I think the virgins are the ones who seem to think regular men respect women on a level to follow them into battle and death

They can't even command the respect of a college football team

It's natural social dynamics
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>>64557695
But you are giving no reason for your dismay except that the lead roles are occupied by women.

Why is that bad? Make up your goddamn mind whether or not TFA was a rehash of ANH.

I do think that unless she had her memory wiped, Rey was a Mary Sue. Being female, this made me angry. It just gave you viriginal autists more fuel to flame the role of the female lead.

Most media I enjoy has male leads. It doesn't bother me. Why should I read things that have protagonists just like me? I want to walk in other people's shoes, experience a life different than my own.

There have been 6 movies in the franchise without female leads [again, excluding the one character of Leia]. Why can't there be one that at least changes the formula a bit?

Your precious series isn't under some malicious takeover with an agenda.
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>>64557825
>Your precious series isn't under some malicious takeover with an agenda.

this
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>>64557701
>I'm like female Twilight fans.
>I need a main character like me that I can self-insert with

No one is giving me real reasons why male protagonists are superior in Star Wars.
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>>64557215
Hello reddit!
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>>64557771
>I wouldn't consider myself the most impressive male desu
So you dismiss women better than you physically and mentally that have gotten awards and have physical records that many of their male companions have not beat?
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>>64557771
Well, if the bitch is exceptional badass. You know, such a big exception, that it is worth telling a story about the character
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>>64557825

Look at it in context:

>SJWs gaining a growing media presence and influence
>start demanding roles be given to the "underrepresented", some movies start reflecting this
>JJ Abrams and Disney acquire Star Wars, express a commitment to "diversity" and other shit in casting
>Kathleen Kennedy demands a strong female role
>we get Miss Sue in TFA, she will probably be the central lead of the next trilogy
>now Rogue One with a stronk wommin leading the unit

It's just overbearing and clearly correlative. It is under a takeover lol, they've made that clear. I wasn't even aware of these kinds of politics until it became a huge thing with Gawker media going under and then other large journalist outlets falling prey to the same shit but now I'm hyper aware of it and it bothers me.

Remember that the new age of identity politics weren't started by fedoras or neckbeards, this is the doing of people who wanted gender and race to become the fundamental aspect of your identity and existence. It's annoying. The bland stories don't help, I'm about done with Star Wars.
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>>64555923
8 Movies so far, 2 female protagonists
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>>64557825
>Your precious series isn't under some malicious takeover with an agenda.
http://screenrant.com/star-wars-kathleen-kennedy-female-influence/

>“[Disney is] really, really making a huge effort across the company to put more focus around casting women and putting women in positions of responsibility, with directing and various other positions inside, different lines of business in the company. It’s not just about casting female protagonists. It’s gotta be across the board throughout the industry.”
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>>64557953
What is this perceived attack by SJWs?

Game of the year this year was Witcher 3 despite SJWs slamming the game.

Real artists and media creators don't pay attention to them. Most of the general public doesn't either. Most of my friends who were girls loved Gone Girl, even though that woman was vicious and taking advantage of the system that pities women.

I don't feel like this was SJW shoehorning either. Neither was the Boyega casting. They weren't trope emulations, they were okay-written characters.

It was one woman main character. Stop seeing conspiracies that aren't there.
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>>64557953
So the issue you have is there seems to be forced diversity in star wars? A series that had diversity in it to begin with.

Seriously man all the sjw shit doesn't matter at all and really only exists on the internet. If you just stop giving a shit about it you'll have a much better life.
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>>64558037
Why does this matter? They want more women involved in their company which is completely fine.
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>making an entire line based on one line in the crawl

are they going to do this for all the films now?
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>>64558088

Film is absolutely getting commandeered by them. As I mentioned prior, Kennedy lobbied hard for the Rey character. Part of the reason why she was so overly capable and they included some unnecessary shit. It's harmful to creative expression to inflect bias, and when it's affecting one of my favorite series I take is somewhat personally. I really wouldn't care if it was anything other than Star Wars.
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>>64558088
this

And I think, one of the main reasons for Rey being a girl, is that otherwise the character would be too similar to Luke (/anakin)
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>>64558037
Strong women always existed in Star Wars EU. Why can't we put it on the big screen?

Excluding Mulan and Brave's main character, Disney typecasts female characters into special women that don't need no man, but actually they do. a false strong protagonist.

Women make up over 51% of the world's population, yet until recently I'd say 7/10 main characters in anything are men. Since women make up a certain portion of the population, that portion wants to be entertained. If media is going to filter to the man, when women could be half of their fanbase, they are limiting themselves.

Are you telling me you never want to experience a character that is vastly different than you? See how they see their world?
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>>64558182
NO MAN DON'T YOU SEE THEY'RE TRICKING YOU INTO BELIEVE WOMAN CAN BE AS GOOD AS MEN AND SOON ENOUGH THERE WON'T EVEN BE ANY MEN IN FILMS ANYMORE AND YOU'LL COME CRAWLING BACK TO ME WISHING YOU'D LISTENED
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>>64557953

I wonder what it's like to be this paranoid over a completely fictional movie set in space that won't affect your life beyond the two hours you'll spend watching it regardless of your petty complaints.
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>>64558147

It actually does. I'm not going to go into it here but my friends had a terrible experience with feminists at my university this past semester. Hit home that this shit is actually starting to pervade society.
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>>64558221
>taking something involving a movie you're not part of personally

Christ m8
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>>64558250
You realise you're on /tv/ and not reddit, or tumblr, or whichever shithole you crawled out of, yes?
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>>64558250

I've always enjoyed the universe and characters beyond the screen so it's a little more than the cheap momentary thrill I'm sure 90% of viewers went to TFA for
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Hyped for this. Is there going to be Jedi's in this or at least some kind of force users?
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>>64558340
Most we'll get is probably a Vader cameo, none of the rebels are going to be Jedi I think I heard.
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>>64558221
It isn't commandeered by them. It was one goddamned character in a franchise that already has 6 films with males as the main character.

She was overly capable, but so was Anakin. I read the novelization which makes it plainly obvious through Kylo's interactions with her that she has a past she is unaware of. A la Revan.

There is no creative bias. You are seeing shit that isn't there.

Why shouldn't Kennedy want to get more women working on Star Wars?

I am female and a huge Star Wars fan. Obsessed over the EU novels, my favorite games are KOTOR. Am I less deserving than you as a fan to have a protagonist of my gender?

I was able to fall in love with Star Wars without a female lead, but since the universe within Star Wars is so diverse, it doesn't make sense to just follow male stories. Hell, to me it doesn't make sense to make the main characters solely human in this universe either.
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>>64558369

Vader has been confirmed, aswell as Cgi Tarkin
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>>64555519
you always say that
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>>64558147
>It only exists on the internet
I wonder what it's like being so naive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRlRAyulN4o
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>>64558282
I've had terrible experiences with all sorts of shitty people feminists included. None of them have affected my life in any way. You are not a man if you let sjws personally influence your life.
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>>64558369

oh that sucks
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>>64558282
And I've been raped, but I don't go around calling all men rapists or thinking there is some conspiracy they have against women.

You're parroting arguments extreme feminists make.
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>>64558312

I'm not pretending manchild paranoia is any worse than SJW paranoia when it comes to movies. The protagonist being a white dude would've been no less of a conspiracy than it being a woman or a black guy or whatever. Anyone looking for some deeper meaning in the race or gender of a Star Wars character in an unreleased movie is a fucking idiot regardless of which side they're on.

>>64558323

EU's still there, regardless of what JJ and Kennedy says is canon or not. Ignore what you dislike, stick with what you do.
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https://youtu.be/r0eEKDfLNPg

First trailer, got leaked months ago
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>>64557825
>>64558088
>>64558246
>>64558390
>I'm a woman
>favorite games are KOTOR
How's the HRT treating you?
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>>64558422
Great some guy can't take pictures of some shit happening on a college campus. Who gives a fuck?
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>>64558323
So what, you are the biggest fan ever and a Wookieepedia article editor and that means one woman main character completely ruins your enjoyment of the series?

There are plenty of women that are "hardcore" Star Wars fans themselves and never make a peep about how men make up 90% or more of most stories in Star Wars.
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>>64555422
well I can tell you I'm gonna be smashing a SHIT TON of crab legs on this baby when this movie comes out. might even buy a new hammer
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>>64555422
>Mads Mikkelsen (Galen appears to be his name in the film) is kind of the key to the film in a way.
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>>64556717

It was garbage. Pacing sucked. Characters sucked. Nobody went to see a Godzilla movie to see adventures of some fag soldier instead.
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>>64558423

They are affecting society whether you realize it or not

the loudest shouters get their way

>>64558459

that's an individual crime of depravity, not exactly a concerted social movement
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>>64558439
It might be cool just because it'll be a slightly different take on a star wars film, but also it'll make Vader look even stronger because of the power gap
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>>64558390
>I am female and...

TITS OR GTFO
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>>64558515
>implying Jar Jar isn't the key
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>>64558501

How about the removal of due process and the degradation of the justice system

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/14/adults-hate-affirmative-consent-laws-the-college-students-i-meet-love-them/

the removal of freedom of speech?

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/

These aren't /pol/ clickbait, it's real life, this is the generation that will be shaping American society
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Kyle Kataarn's contributions scrubbed from the SW universe for good: the flick.
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>>64558499
Yes, women can like things like Witcher and KOTOR as well. I don't need to self insert myself in my media.

Canonically [pre Disney], The Exile was Meetra Surik, a woman. At least there is that.

Also Kreia was a fucking awesome woman character.

The only friend I can talk EU with is also a girl.

Most of my guy friends who say they are Star Wars fans scratch their heads when I mention Revan or Thrawn.

Fandom is not sex-specific.
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>>64558501
People who give a fuck about freedom of speech, freedom of press and colleges not being ruled by lynchmobs.
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>>64557213
Back the fuck off Felicity you faggot. She's a great actress and a bonafide goddess. I bet you're a fat neck beard basement dweller and a disgusting pedo that gets off to little boys eating carrots.
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>>64556792
>>64555422

I actually am pretty good friends with a close friend of the guy who wrote the movie, and I have met the guy who wrote it.

He is actually based and I was surprised and pleased to hear he was doing it.

He pretty much was intrigued by the line about the Bothans (he's not an autist so he doesn't know about any EU/Wookiepedia bullshit about the Bothans) and decided to just expand that into a story.

It should be interesting.

I haven't seen TFA but I'd be interested in seeing Rouge One
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>>64558569
>that's an individual crime of depravity, not exactly a concerted social movement
Neither is the persecution you seem to think prevades culture from SJWs. Depraved individuals are the ones crying for safe-spaces on campuses and think cultural appropriation is real. They aren't major, they aren't a majority.

Most of the time they don't even get their way, even if they yell louder.
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>>64558633
and yet you are tying way too hard to fit in
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>>64558731
And yet when I express interest in something perceived as masculine you claim I'm a tranny and imply I'm a poser.

Guess I can't win.
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>>64558606
>implying Mads isn't playing Jar Jar
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>>64558787
Depart for the proper website
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Maybe Felicity Jones' character will actually end up being well written female character that girls can look up too. I'm cool with that. Rey was a trash shoehorned in character. I don't get the feeling that this will be the case in Rouge One. I hope I'm not wrong.

20 bucks says 1st trailer in May when Civil War drops.
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Any word on Forest Whitakers role? Im hoping for an imperial officer. Not as crazy as his Idi Amin role, but a firm authoritarian.
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>>64558709

see >>64558621

they also get curriculum rewritten and restructured to coalesce with their goals

among other things

they who command education
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>>64555422
>Mikkelsen's character is a scientist who defects
>he's not an ace pilot/Red Baron-type character for the Empire
>he's not a competent, cunning and loyal imperial officer

Dropped.
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>>64558569
>>64558621
>>64558642

The delusional is palpable. Show me where the Constitution has been amended? Oh wait that hasn't happened.

What do you do to fight back against the sjw horde besides posting on 4chan?
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>>64556851
If you're not excited for a Boba Fett movie you're a goddamn cuck
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What's with all this Star Wars movies pushing females for lead roles?
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>>64559028
>part likely ro be given to Michael B Jordan

You're the cuck here buying into disneys shit.
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>>64559032
It's 2016
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>>64559028
Boba Fett was ruined by the prequels and dies like a bitch.

>Han Solo prequel movie
>how he meets Greedo
>how he gets into debt with Jaba
>kessel run
It's going to be painful
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>>64559025

Well, they're already achieving censorship and kangaroo justice in colleges. As universities are the fundamental breeding ground of ideology and will shape every student who passes through it once they have achieved the characteristic demographic of the United States we will begin to see larger changes.

Look to California as a window to the future.

I don't know what I can do, vote for Trump?
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>>64559032
males 5-40 will watch regardless
why not double your box office with a female lead?
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>>64559032
They're trying to get gurls bucks.

Now that nerd culture is popular, even Staceys can pretend to like Star Wars.
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>>64559025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ8Nr3_2724

last video for you. now fuck off
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>>64559077
Isn't Boba Fett like an indian or some shit. Or a Mexican?
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>>64559146

They're also trying to do away with SAT/ACT since males and asians do best on them

welcome to the anti-meritocracy
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>>64559191
native kiwi. they should just get the guy who played jango to do the voice over for boba and have him never take off his helmet
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>>64559077
>Michael B Jordan
Who? A basketball player?
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>>64559266
Fantastic
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>>64558787
I dont.
You just try tooo hard. You mention your gender and try to prove your credibility to everyone. You really want to be something special and it shows. Its not about winning just chill your cunt
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>>64559240
that would be the best plan
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>>64559146
Top kek m8 you'll never have children so why do you care? All standards for learning are shitty anyway. No child Left behind did more damage than good and it was put in place by a not sjw.
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>>64559146
>>64559105
>If we cast somebody who isn't a white man in a film, we'll get a SJW 1984!

Holy shit, don't you know how retarded you sound?
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>>64557825
>>64557862
>Your precious series isn't under some malicious takeover with an agenda

every time you sound this pompous most people tend to drop whatever the fuck you are saying.
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>>64556364
IT STARS REY'S MOM
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>>64559386

And what about those of us who are not memeing and are actually going to have to send children to whatever is left of this shit in 10 years

we're looking at downfall-era Rome right now
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>>64558633
>Kreia fan
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>>64559392
You sound pretty retarded yourself, friend.
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>>64559392

>just cover your ears and eyes and ignore the clear symptoms of progressive agenda all around you

you aren't supposed to wait until a problem is major and past the point of no return before criticizing it
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>>64555803
Why are those stormtroopers having a good time? Summer break?
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>>64555803
>those stormtrooper corpses floating in the water
>that burnt out crashed ship
holy shit.
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>>64559439
Home school early and teach your kid how to think for themselves.

It is not nearly as bad as you think it is.
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>>64559139
this
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>>64559555

And college?

Oh it is, I'm living the infant stages of it right now. You keep saying this but I probably have the most firsthand experience with this cabal right now.

This shit's been fairly rapid thanks to the internet's influence
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>>64559105
No it hasn't and it won't. Stop making conjectures.
>>64558809
>Lel gb2 reddit cuck shill SJW
What a wonderful, well-constructed retort.
>>64559286
I do it because faggots like >>64559145
imply people like me are not "real fans" and we are simply pretending to enjoy certain media, so naturally I defend myself and give proof. But apparently I'm not allowed to.
>>64559214
No you dipshit, they want to do away with extreme amounts of standardized testing that are done within schools since Common Core [you have like 3 standardized tests a year that are the only things that matter. Teachers no longer teach, they teach the test]. They would still keep SAT and ACT.

They probably aren't going to have SAT scores be the thing that matters most for college entrance because it is stupid. You can learn the test and get a 33 on your ACT and still flunk out of college. They want someone who has good grades, took advanced courses, did extra-curricular volunteer work, and did well on a standardized test. If you took only the latter, you'll get a bunch of people who only learned the test. That can only get you to about sophomore level in university.

>>64559415
Because what I said is true?
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>>64559589
If you taught them how to think for themselves they'll be fine. Hell tell them to go to trade school.

What's your first hand experience like?
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>>64555951
Might get her daughter since she's already under contract.
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>>64555460
More specifically, strong womyn leads defected empire
male fuckup to save the day

I bet they blow up another death star too
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>>64559415
Also that second post you quoted was not me. Nice try though.
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>Ep. VII came out in 2015 and is set 30 years after ROTJ
>Rogue One comes out this year and is set before Ep. IV
>Ep. VIII comes out next year
>Movie about Han Solo comes out in 2018 and is set before Rogue One

What a mess. How are casual movie-goers going to keep up with this?
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>>64557955
this to be quite honest, familia. shaking my head (at you)
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>>64559668
Its almost as if star wars is about people/aliens of all races and genders coming together to fight an oppressive regime.
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Major releases in 2016 in film:

>Deadpool: male lead
>London Has Fallen: male lead
>Gods of Egypt: male lead
>Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: male lead
>Captain America: Civil War: male lead
>Independence Day: Resurgence: male lead
>Star Trek Beyond: male lead
>Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them : male lead
>Assassin's Creed: male lead

Looks pretty norm...

>Rogue One: female lead

SJWS ARE TAKING OVER!

SJWS ARE TAKING OVER!
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>>64555723
You lie!

I hope its true. Sauce?
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What's the point in watching this if you already know they succeed?
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>>64559645
>I do it because faggots like >>64559145 (You)
>imply people like me are not "real fans"

You're a Stacey or you didn't get what I was saying?
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>>64558573
>spent a decade as a quartermaster in the army
>all I think of at that picture is all the equipment that will have to be replaced

pic unrelated
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>>64559767
I don't know what you were trying to say, since men often emulate "I love nerdy things" too.
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>>64556849
I may have missed a detail from the movie, but does the base have some kind of propulsion system to move the planet around? If their plan had worked out, it would have sucked up the sun, blown up not-Yavin-IV, and...then what? Is it capable of moving to other systems?
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>>64559645

They want colleges to stop taking ACT/SAT as entrance measures. There is a correlation between ACT/SAT and academic/career success, it isn't a hard predictor but it's just another aspect of a resume that can help glean insight into a student's potential and also standardize across districts (as GPA measurements vary and can be subject to issues like rigor/difficulty disparities)

You can't "learn" the ACT/SAT, it's basically how fast you can comprehend material and return analysis. It's an IQ test lite but not fully so as it does require general knowledge.

Removing them from requirements only makes the process more subjective and hazy. What's going to take its place, a fucking essay?
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>>64559647

My friends had an off campus party with a joking banner out front that had "daughter daycare" on it the first day of move in, obviously intended as humor

they got a barrage of facebook hate calling for their dicks to be cut off, their house vandalized and "fuck rape culture" spray painted all over the side, and two of them lost their jobs after these assholes spammed their work every day

This from the "oppressed" campus feminists

they also introduced mandatory "how to not be a rapist" material for incoming freshmen
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>>64559760

>>64555764
That black helmet on the left is the design they're using for Shadow Troopers.
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>>64558698
you are full of shit

the bothans died to get the intel for the second death star, the one from return of the jedi

this movie is about the stolen plans for the first death star, from a new hope
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Who will play Vader?

He's in the Death Star when Rebel mooks stole the plans
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>>64560073
Of course that happened. I would totally believe this without any proof.
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>>64559888
What I meant by that was that the vast majority of SW fans (and nerdy stuff in general) were usually male until recently. Since the media pushed nerd culture as one of the new norms, a lot of new 'fans' joined in, including a lot of girls who used to gladly make fun of it before.
Basically the same shit that is happening with video games. That doesn't mean all gamers and all SW fans have always been exclusively male.
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>>64560005
>You can't learn the ACT

Then how come in 6 months my score jumped up 9 points after taking a special course that had textbooks how to take the ACT?

>There is a correlation between SAT/ACT and academic/career success.
Nope.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/nail-biting-standardized-testing-may-miss-mark-college-students/
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>>64559997
Why is the Resistance separate from the Republic?

Is the New Order a recognized state? Is it conquering things or living in isolation like North Korea?

Why does the Republic allow it to exist?

Did the Republic only have one fleet?

Was that Coruscant that was destroyed?

Why did the Resistance only have snubfighters?

Who is Supreme Leader Snoke?

Are all those planets in the same system? How could they see that other planet get destroyed otherwise?

Why didn't the Resistance or Republic stop the New Order from building that Starkiller weapon? It's an entire planet, it's not like it can be hidden.

Whhhhhhhy?
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>>64560126
Vader is basically just a costume, anyone can play him as long as the voice over is good.

Who voices him in Star Wars Rebels? Do they use JEJ's voice still?
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>>64560165
>What I meant by that was that the vast majority of SW fans (and nerdy stuff in general) were usually male until recently.
From what you know. Female social life is absolute hell. Until recently a woman couldn't feel comfortable in either men or women social circles when talking about "geeky" hobbies. Men would either assume she doesn't know her shit or beta orbit her. Other women outright laugh at her and shame her.

So yeah, there might not have been "as many" to your eyes because they simply hid their powerlevel.
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>Oppenheimer helped design the atomic bomb only to say, “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”

God, this writing is beyond any excuse.
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>>64560256
Yeah, they used James Earl Jones.
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>>64560256
Yes, they still use James Earl Jones. It's nice.
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>>64560127

lolz
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>>64557217
>plenty
find me ten
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>>64555723
que?
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>Where are the Death Star plans?
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>>64559687
I knew it wasn't you, nice try though faggot. he agreed with you.
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>>64560181

>Then how come in 6 months my score jumped up 9 points after taking a special course that had textbooks how to take the ACT?

You're an exception?

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/04/what_do_sat_and_iq_tests_measure_general_intelligence_predicts_school_and.html

Also, given that logic, wouldn't the SAT/ACT be an opportunity to put in the work to get a good score and redeem your GPA? If it's a product of studying

What's your suggestion for a replacement?
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>>64560073
>mandatory
FUCKIN' KILL 'EM ALL
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>>64560294
12 year old detected
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>>64560320
http://www.fscclub.com/history/armed3-e.shtml

Excuse the website source for the following link, I know MarySue is a shit site. Still, here is a list of 10 commander women, as requested. Just use the website for the names and Google them if the website offends you.
http://www.themarysue.com/female-military-leaders-300-artemisia/
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>>64555866

>Female characters that are capable fighters are unrealistic meme

Look up the Yazidi female militias fighting ISIS. It'll require you to shift your giant man titties out of the way of the keyboard, but it might dispell your neckbeard misconceptions of "HURR WOMEN CAN'T BE TOUGH CHARACTERS MARY SUE LOL EPIC MEME XD"
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>>64560249

>Why is the Resistance separate from the Republic?

"Resistance" is a euphemism. They're radical terrorists much like CIA trained Al-Qaida in the 80's

>Is the New Order a recognized state? Is it conquering things or living in isolation like North Korea?

It's a "nazis came back from south america" mashup. Rumor has it that Disney is rebooting the villains for Ep. VIII because New Order was so utter shit

>Why does the Republic allow it to exist?

Because they're safespace happyminded liberals and can't get past endless democracy

>Did the Republic only have one fleet?

Yes, and it was blown up with those five planets, yet we never see any ships because the cgi department forgot about them

>Was that Coruscant that was destroyed?

No, it was Hosnian Prime, but you couldnt tell because they made it look like Coruscant and they deleted the scenes where Leia's ambassador is sent to fight for the resistance's cause

>Why did the Resistance only have snubfighters?

Because kids unfamiliar with Star Wars only recognize x-wings from the OT and the creative department was pretty poor with ideas. Same for New Order TIE fighters. This sells more toys.

>Who is Supreme Leader Snoke?

Rumor has it that he's Darth Vader in flesh. Maybe Plagueis but maybe not. Maybe some new bad guy

>Are all those planets in the same system? How could they see that other planet get destroyed otherwise?

It's JJ's way of making you see the death star blows FIVE planets. JJ thinks you are stupid.

>Why didn't the Resistance or Republic stop the New Order from building that Starkiller weapon? It's an entire planet, it's not like it can be hidden.

It is never explained nor is it relevant to TFA. Maybe it wasnt built by them. It's implied in obscure references Starkiller is build on Ilum, the planet where jedi took their lightsaber crystals from. None of this is expanded or relevant in the film

>Whhhhhhhy?

Money
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>Mads dies in the end of the movie to a force choke while his daughter gives it to Mon Mothma and meets a CGI 20s Mark Hamill after he arrives along with Han and they lock their eyes for a few seconds and then Mark leaves to prepare to assault the Death Star

POTTERY
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>>64555866
>It's not believable at all
You can't be serious! fucking kek
Ok, first off, IT is not even out yet. You don't know what it's even like.
Secondly, "these roles" is literally a single woman. That you have to throw a little bitch fit every time a movie of high profile is cast with anybody BUT white men demonstrates how little of a person you are.


/tv/ has reached an all time high of autism in it anti-SW sperging.. It's fucking glorious, but also a little scary. It's like I'm watching a tard rage behind a glass at the zoo, but it's ok because I'm safe to watch and laugh.
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>>64560488

Bang up job they're doing, getting genocided and captured for slavery

no one could touch ISIS until Russia started shock and awing the shit out of them

Let's just say their impact is very overstated and tied into more media memery with regards to any woman who happens to pick up a gun
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>>64560488
you are fucking pathetic
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>>64560249
>Why is the Resistance separate from the Republic?

The republic wanted to demilitarize after the empire to try and make it seem like they were better, they have a peace treaty with the first order but the FO are secretly building an army and invading planets, leia finds all this shit out and creates the resistance because the senate has become corrupted and branded her as an alarmist just trying to stir shit up.

>Is the New Order a recognized state? Is it conquering things or living in isolation like North Korea?

A bit of both I think? They have a peace treaty but are conquering planets in the unknown regions of space and building an army.

>Why does the Republic allow it to exist?

They have a peace treaty with the FO and they force the FO to pay reparations thinking that it will stop them from having the funds to fully rebuild again or something, what they don't know is that the FO is much larger than they say they are and that there are corrupt members of the senate downplaying their strength.

>Did the Republic only have one fleet?

Yes, the New Republic wanted to demilitarize and leave militaries up to individual star systems.

>Was that Coruscant that was destroyed?

No, that was Hosnian Prime, a new rule of the republic was that the senate took up a new home world every few years to show that every planet is important and not just the "capital" of the republic, HP just happened to be the unlucky one.

>Why did the Resistance only have snubfighters?

The real reason is that the filmmakers believed the audience would be confused over too many fighter types, the in universe reason is that the resistance only has 2 squadrons of X-Wings to it's name due to being underfunded.

>Who is Supreme Leader Snoke?

We don't know yet.
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>>64560527
Mothma was not involved with the first Death Star battle. It wasn't her rebel cell that did it.
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>>64560549
He's fucking right. You are the truly pathetic one.
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>>64560558
>Are all those planets in the same system? How could they see that other planet get destroyed otherwise?

Just to make sure people get the idea, idk

>Why didn't the Resistance or Republic stop the New Order from building that Starkiller weapon? It's an entire planet, it's not like it can be hidden.

Space is really fucking big, so they kept it hidden deep in the unexplored regions of space which is their main territory.


Too much of this was explained outside of the film, they deleted a shit load of expository scenes because they thought it would ruin the pace or have reveals too early and other shit like that, I'm hoping for an extended edition with the 20 minutes of deleted scenes personally, there's a whole scene on hosnian prime which I would have liked to see, as well as more scenes with storm troopers and a few of the new FO vehicles which don't show up in the film proper.
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>>64560127
Are you living under a rock? Of course you never went to college, but you are clearly on the internet. There is story after story after story.
Race seperation, mandatory anti-rape classes, trigger warning for lessons, Seinfeld not wanting to make a show at campus, because they are too PC,... and on and on and on
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>>64560492
Thanks I guess. So is the New Order a stateless organization too?
I can't get how the rebellion would win and restore the republic and then just allow Empire 2.0 to pop up.

And what's Hosnian Prime? Why is it important?
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>>64560534

Nice blog post m8
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>>64560270
Well male nerds weren't exactly popular either, were they? They were laughed at and shamed by both males and females. It's not exactly a better situation.
Maybe that's because I'm from Yurop but I've never met an actual female SW fan. One even once told me she was a fan but she had never seen the OT. Still, I'm not saying they don't exist.
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>>64560312
Tell those cunts to move to Cologne and do something that actually might help women
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>>64555653
>thinking it'll be gritty
>still hoping for a horror movie in which vader hunts down and exterminates rebel scum

i can dream too, anon, but it's going to be vanilla as shit
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>>64560492
>Yes, and it was blown up with those five planets, yet we never see any ships because the cgi department forgot about them
You can see the fleet around Hosnian Prime as the planet explodes, which disintegrates all the MonCal cruisers and the other ships. Very hard to miss if you aren't looking right at the planet.

>No, it was Hosnian Prime, but you couldnt tell because they made it look like Coruscant and they deleted the scenes where Leia's ambassador is sent to fight for the resistance's cause
Poe actually says"Hosnian system" to let anyone with any shred of competency know that it wasn't Coruscant. There are more than one "planet-wide city" planets in Star Wars. This should not be new to anyone.
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Did anyone else see the First Order and think, "I prefer them to the Resistance" ?

I know I did.

>First Order is full of white people on computers, like me
>Resistance is full of aliens and women

I'll take a double-helping of the First Order, please.
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Felicity Jones majorly gives me the horn.
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>>64560652
>And what's Hosnian Prime? Why is it important?
The Senate created after Endor was made to be hosted by different planets every few years by a vote. Hosnian Prime was the planet that won the vote the last vote prior to TFA.
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>>64560710

haha, you think they're actually interested in that?

they're cowards

I can't respect them anymore, two faced cowards

Pathos is the word of the era at University USA
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>>64560646
Go outside, anon. You've spent too long on the Internet.

Hint: nobody gives a shit about any of this irl
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>>64560424
GPA and curriculum and extra school activities.

And IQ tests are becoming a thing of the past.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/iq-test-accurate-way-measure-intelligence-or-are-mental-abilities-something-you-cant-put-297244

Your article also isn't cut and dry. It isn't because they are smarter that the SAT score matters, it is because it can get them into an institution that some think gives better education. [Really they don't. 2/3 of Brown freshmen make it through their first year with a 4.0 gpa. That is terrible, and shows that Ivy League doesn't always mean you know your shit].

They are making $100k more just like how rich frat boy got in on a Legacy scholarship and will get higher pay.

Not because he's smarter, but because he had connections and went to the right university. The other got a good score and got into the university for a different reason, but the reason for his pay jump is still the same.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2012/06/12/how-much-is-a-big-sat-score-worth-as-much-as-100000-in-future-earnings/
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>>64560652

We dont know but there's a rumor that Benicio del Toro will be playing an "Imperial" leader in the future, meaning that an "Empire" still exists in whatever form, rendering the New Order to subfaction-tier.

Hosnian Prime is the capital of the New Republic, where the senate is. There's thad deleted scene I told you about a black female fighting for the Resistance on the senate. She's the one that gets a closeup when the Starkiller base deathray enters the atmosphere and all the aliens panic.

This means Hosnian Prime was going to get some screentime, but since it didnt and since it looks like Coruscant it confuses everyone.

Expect an "Extended Edition" TFA Blu-Ray in the future with more than one hour of deleted scenes.
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>>64560781
She should have been cast as Rey.
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>>64560534
this
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>>64560782
Is this info online somewhere or was there a special on tv about the movie before it came out?
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>>64560833
Yes. The better version of a toothy British chick.
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>>64560724

>You can see the fleet around Hosnian Prime

Watched the camrip, I couldnt tell, kek.

>Poe actually says"Hosnian system"

I'll give you that, I didnt remember. With all the forgettable dialogue Hosnian Prime still looks like Coruscant. There's no reason to think it is, but there's no reason to think it isnt thanks to the awful editing, so the doubt is very common in many viewers-
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HOL UP

Everything I'm seeing shows humans in the lead roles. Weren't they supposed to be banthans?
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>>64560583
Mon Mothma was the leader of the Rebel Alliance
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>>64559693
By turning their brain off and enjoying each individual movie instead of the overarching story.
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>>64560906
Thought that was Oliver Reed at first.
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>>64560854
TFA Visual Dictionary. The book details many things the movie doesn't mention.

>>64560924
There was no "Alliance" pre-Yavin. It was all different cells run by different people until they realized they could band together and actually be more productive. Alliance High Command is not a thing until after Yavin.
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>>64560537
He was stupid, it isn't the Yazidi it is the Kurds. Vastly different. And the Kurdish women are making a lot of progress. The YPG specifically.
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/kurds-now-our-best-ally-against-isis-in-syria
http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-kurdish-guerilla-forces-are-using-dirty-tricks-against-isis-2015-8

Russia is making a big dent in ISIS right now? What planet are you on, Jakku? They can't stop refugee sleeper cells in EU and USA.
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>>64560338
The black armored storm troopers are going to be in the film.

They're basically elite storm troopers, in some media they wield lightsabers but they're more likely to be the versions that have cloaking fields in this film.
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>>64560906
err I mean Bothans
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>>64560832
>Benicio del Toro will be playing an "Imperial" leader in the future, meaning that an "Empire" still exists in whatever form, rendering the New Order to subfaction-tier.

First Order gets wiped out in Episode VIII in a similar fashion like the Rebels on Hoth while the new Empire is similar to the Fels in the EU version where they're just a separate faction on cordial terms with the Republic but not necessarily allied together.
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>>64560807
>GPA and curriculum and extra school activities.

That's hardly enough. As I said, GPA is basically just an effort measurement, and is contingent on the subjective difficulty of your school and courses.

>And IQ tests are becoming a thing of the past.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/iq-test-accurate-way-measure-intelligence-or-are-mental-abilities-something-you-cant-put-297244

There's no reason for them to. IQ is very important for Psychology and the only general quantification of intelligence we have. They're continuously trying to refine it.

>
Your article also isn't cut and dry. It isn't because they are smarter that the SAT score matters, it is because it can get them into an institution that some think gives better education. [Really they don't. 2/3 of Brown freshmen make it through their first year with a 4.0 gpa. That is terrible, and shows that Ivy League doesn't always mean you know your shit].

Did you ever consider that the majority of Brown freshman are extremely high achievers who won't settle for less than a 4.0? The strength and quality of an instititution is oftentimes its student body. Rigor of coursework doesn't change that much from school to school in university.

If you're smart, you'll do better on the ACT/SAT. If you aren't, you won't. It's not a complete predictor and shouldn't be the end all be all of your college resume, especially if you have a low GPA, but it's the only thing we've got to standardize qualification.
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>>64560979
>TFA Visual Dictionary
Is it online?
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>>64561014

I like that.

I still dont like how bad TFA plays out. Such a shame because the material is there, it just has shit pacing and scene by scene editing
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>>64561014
I literally used to schlick all night long to Jagged fel
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>>64560924
MON MOTHMA IS THE LEADER

SJWS TOOK OVER STAR WARS IN THE 80S
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>>64557176
Probably almost all coming from the "Rebels" side I imagine. It makes no sense to constrain the movies to side materials like kids shows rather than vice versa.
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>>64560492
>>64560558
How much of this is headcanon or novelization bullshit?
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>>64560983
>refugee sleeper cells

>people believe this meme

[citation needed]
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>>64560705
>Yurop
That is why. Have you seen how the overseas numbers for TFA are much less than expected? It is because Star Wars is a very American thing, the hype here is still going, and is unreal. Star Wars EVERYWHERE.

Most of my female friends have seen the OT, or watched it before TFA came out.

The only person I can talk EU novels with is female.

Your situation with Star Wars is like America's situation with anime. It is heavily male dominated.
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>>64555723
Nigga, did you just say shadowtroopers? I'm in.
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>>64560983

No, I've been following the conflict closely. The USA was only interested in a defensive stance, and the Kurds have mostly been in defense mode as well. The recent gains have come with help from concerted Russian strikes.

The fact that the Kurds, in a war of survival, are falling back on women to assist in their limited numbers, doesn't by extension qualify them as soldiers of even caliber. It's not uncommon for nations and tribes to do this under extreme duress. e.g. the USSR
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>>64561091
it's all in the supplementary material for the film (novelization, visual dictionary, etc.) and a lot of it was actually in the film itself until it got cut due to either keeping the pace or to not reveal things too "early" (They didn't want to have the senate scene on hosnian prime because it was before leia meets han, and they wanted to save the leia "reveal" for that moment).
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>>64560832
>Expect an "Extended Edition" TFA Blu-Ray in the future with more than one hour of deleted scenes.
It pissed me off that J.J. came out and said he wouldn't be doing a Director's Cut because he didn't believe in them. Thankfully, Disney doesn't have to answer to J.J. so there is still hope.
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>>64560979
They had different cells because they can't band together in a single location but Mon Mothma was their de facto leader until she took the helm as Supreme Chancellor until she was replaced with a random alien who got destroyed by Starkiller Base
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>>64561091

Most of it, save for the Hosnian Prime part.

All of it is backed up by rumors of varying credibility though
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>>64561128

I'm in Spain and Star Wars is everywhere (ads) too, just not that much hype.

More than one person has told me it's shit. They're not as sold into TFA as americans I think.

Also and strangely, almost no ads on TV
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>>64561027
SAT too is just an effort measurement.

You seriously never heard of grade inflation?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/harvard-grade-inflation-_n_4384848.html

And the Brown situation is actually worse than I stated. 2/3 of ALL grades at the university are A's.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/harvard-grade-inflation-_n_4384848.html
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>>64561170
>>64561197
How did they manage to fuck up the script so much?
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>>64561135

This is their helmet design on the left >>64555764

They're not the traditional "storm trooper with black paint" design though and I'm not sure whether I like them yet or not, they look a bit too modern to me, it's a cool design I just don't know if it fits with the normal storm trooper helmets.
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>>64559240
>tfw no American Psycho intro but with Boba Fett in full armor
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>>64561120
Chatanooga? Paris?

Or not even refugee, just radicalized Muslims [not all Muslims I'm not /pol/ tier] in other countries. How does Russia fight those, which are the ones causing most of our fear?
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>>64561327
They wanted to stick to the simple stories of the first film, both to avoid reminding people of the political scenes in the prequel trilogy and to give people new to the series a good base to start off from.

I don't think it paid off honestly, I'd have gladly taken the extra 20 minutes of deleted scenes .
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>>64561401
Paris attackers weren't refugees, they were all born in Europe
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>>64561327

My guess is time constraints (both in the making and in the editing for a version to put out in cinemas) and Disney designing a product instead of a film. They where aiming for the toy and merchandise sales, but they failed at making a memorable movie.
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>>64561317

>SAT too is just an effort measurement

So what's the problem? An effort-based test standardized across school districts.

I argue that grade inflation is a product of increasingly strict entrance standards, which results in higher quality student bodies. Do you know who gets into Ivy league schools? Almost without fail, 4.0 35-36 ACT students. Our valedictorian had a 5.0 weighted GPA and 35, denied at all Ivies, went to Vandy. Those kids are going to get their A's in college.

The university system is getting overloaded with students. Removing another entrance standard is increasing the shitshow and ambiguity.
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>>64555764

I hated TFA but I really like the (real) OT feel of those helmets.
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>>64561439
No they weren't, some were refugees let in through Greece. Greek government confirmed it.
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>>64561439
What about that guy with the Syrian passport?
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>>64561050
No online copy exists. You can only get it as a physical book.
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>>64561451
JJ wanted to delay it but disney wanted it out in december and we ended up with a Hobbit situation, (it's not quite that bad yet, but the relatively rushed schedule for the next two episodes doesn't give me hope)
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>>64561560
They probably wanted it out in December because they already gave J.J. an extension. That said, I do have hope because some of the most common comments about TFA are about the pacing and general confusion regarding some plot points. People are actually asking for a specialized edition for once. Disney's going to take notice for their next film.
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>>64561792
Hopefully, I might sound down on the movie but I very much enjoyed it.

I just wish we could have seen a few more vehicles types in the film atleast, the FO have a snowspeeder vehicle that was completely cut from the movie and yet it has 2 lego sets.
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>>64561890
It was in a blink and miss it scene.
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>>64561890
Yeah, agreed. I kind of wonder who was in charge of editing, what kind of input Disney had, and so on.
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>>64561937
Are you talking about when finn and rey reach the oscillator and you see it in the background?

I knew about that but there was actually a chase scene involving them, there was also a scene with snowtroopers searching the falcon which I can understand why it was removed but it would have been nice to see snowtroopers for more than the 5 seconds they show up in the current film.
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>>64561999
I'd like to know more about this too, because apparently it's supposed to be lucasfilm completely calling the shots, but I find it hard to believe that they weren't feeling any pressure from Disney, especially with the slightly rushed release.
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