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http://www.avclub.com/article/read-how-avatar-made-27-billion-and-garnered-almos-230327

>How does an astronomically expensive yet astonishingly successful science-fiction blockbuster by a world-famous director dominate popular culture for months on end, only to disappear without a trace from the public’s minds? That is the strange, half-enviable, half-unenviable fate of James Cameron’s Avatar. After its record-breaking box office run in late 2009 and early 2010, it did not exactly fall from grace so much as evaporate from grace. Fans don’t dress up as blue-skinned Navi at Avatar conventions, at least not routinely, and Sam Worthington action figures weren’t exactly flying off the shelves at Christmas. Why not?
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Avatar was the Wii of cinema
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>>64555064
Like TFA had well written characters.

There was Mary Sue, black comic relief, Weirdface the Brooding, ball droid, and wookie.
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>>64555064
Wheel chair guy is a national treasure.
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>>64555064
because he didn't jew out video games and toys 24/7 you fucking children at the av club
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>>64555064
You're just butthurt. Cry more.
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>>64555096

But Wii never made that much money compared to other consoles....
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>A non-franchise film hasn't established a rabid fan base in a society that only cares about franchise films. How on earth did this happen?

Holy shit good question bloggers!
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So much Cameronfag butthurt ITT
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>>64555242
It was the best selling console for its generation though.
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>>64555353
Oh look an intelligent person

You hit the nail on the head
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>>64555449

Then PS2 is star wars.
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>mfw Avatar 2 and 3 canceled
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>>64555242
actually the Wii and the DS are the top selling console/handheld
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>>64555127
Where did they make the comparison to TFA, you strawmannng faggot?
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Mark my words, the marketing for Avatar 2 is going to convince the world that they've been super fans of the franchise the whole time. Just like they did for Star Wars. Star Wars used to be something you'd be bullied for liking, especially as an adult, but then Disney's marketing team got a hold of it and now the world was secretly crazy about Star Wars the whole time!
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>>64556000

If you're retarded, yes. PS2 and PS1 sold more than the Wii. You're right about the DS, though.
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well everybody went to Avatar because of the 3d hype. It explains why it was so succesful and why Avatar 2 takes so muche time to release because they know i'll be a half succes
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>>64555935
You do know disney has a hand in avatar 2 right? It was part of the agreement for the pandora expansion in animal kingdom.
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Avatar captured a moment of anti-American sentiment and welded it onto some digitized eyecandy. Space porn meets hate-America. Simple formula. Easily forgotten.
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>>64556050
You cameronfags are so delusional. Pretty sure people were open about their love for star wars way before the Disney acquisition. Just because you were a beta that got bullied in high school doesn't mean the rest of the world was.
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>disappear without a trace from the public’s minds
babby's first article
implying much?
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>>64556019
>Star wars has memorable characters

l2read
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>>64556398
It has. People remember Finn Rey and Poe and Kylo Ren. They aren't deep or complex, but at the very least they are memorable. The only character people remember from Avatar is the Collonel
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>>64556050
This is the most accurate post in this thread. Outside of the elementary school crowd no one who was an out and out fan of star wars in the 90s and early 00s was anything other than a nerd. Disney marketing is 100% responsible for the success of Star Wars now.
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>>64556599
did he even have a name?
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>>64555064
Matthew Malkasian: MEME OPINION
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>>64556050
Oh absolutely. I remember even when Ep 2 and 3 came out only a handful of kids at school were suddenly Star Wars fans-and they didn't keep being fans a year later. I was a fan before, not really after though. After 3 I was over it. Haven't even seen TFA. Can't bring myself to care.
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What memorable characters does Harry Potter have other than discount Gandalf and loli Emma Watson?
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>>64556632
COLONEL LESLIE HAP HAPABLAP
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>>64556631
Because it was weird and new.

What is weird and new about Avatar?

I dont hate the movie, but it is very pale and generic. It feels sterile and without life for me.

We talk about that movie just because its success in Asia.

That means that its success was based on the context mainly, on the right time (3D hype). There is no reason to come back to the movie now.
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>>64556333
A.. Abatap? Is that you?
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>>64555064
>OP is literally a screengrab from Reddit

for fuck's sake /tv/
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>>64556631
this is actually the most depressing thing about TFA saga.

my elderly parents both brought up Star Wars having had no interest in it before. advertizing fucking works.

with Cameron at least there's more chance it will be in service of a good film.
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>>64555064
>avclub
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>>64556050
Avatar is fetish shit.
Most of the people who got off on it probably cringe at the idea now.
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It says something when Zoe Saldana's most famous role isn't the one from Avatar.

It's not even her third most famous role. Avatar as a franchise (if you can call it that) is not a very profitable one. The 3D fad is over and story-wise, it doesn't bring anything to the table.
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>>64557261
>my elderly parents both brought up Star Wars having had no interest in it before. advertizing fucking works.

Or maybe Star Wars hasn't been good since before you were born.
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>>64556398
Star Wars does. The OP doesn't refer to a *specific Star Wars film yet you pick out TFA, which, if we're honest, does have memorable characters; BB-8 and Rey will certainly be though of more than the likes of Jake Sully and blue legs eleven.
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>>64555064
Jake Sully and Navira are the only two names I can honestly remember and they probably aren't correct.
Okay I checked, I got Jake right but the smurf was called Natiri.
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>>64555064
> a film is only as good as the memes it produces

What a stupid opinion.
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>>64557350
>implying Saldana isn't more famous for GotG

>>64557402
>Avatar
>film
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>>64557261
TFA is a much better movie than Avatar though. Stop being a delusional retard.
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Avatar really wasn't very good. Overly cliched.

>girl finds out the one she loves lied to her
>gets angry with him
>boy has to prove he's not like that and does care for her/the world
I hate that fuckign cliche so much.
TFA set this cliche up but it didn't finish it, thank FUCKING god.
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It's funny that the Avatar sequels are essentially going to be a reboot of the franchise after only one film
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>>64557395
>but the smurf was called Natiri.
Wrong. kek
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>>64555127
Oh I get it! You're trying to flip this on it's head and point it back at TFA. Damn dude!

Except all of these characters barring Wookie had better backgrounds with actual depth than any character in Avatar.
Rey and Kylo even have actual mystery to their's.

Even the fucking droid.
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>>64557198
It's facebook.
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hello slash/filmcast
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>>64557519
Does anyone actually care for a series of Avatar sequels? Surely if there was such a demand they'd have been made already, rather than, what will be, 8 years later.
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Haven't seen Avatar since it came out. The main character's name is Jake Sully.
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>>64555127
Weirdface the Brooding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-R070qHYw
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>>64555064
>harry potter
>memorable characters

bullshit. it was just escapist drivel that let everyone pretend they weren't some stupid muggle

avatar reminded people how shit they really are. no wonder people are eager to forget it.
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Sigourney Weaver smoking a cig in the year 5000 or whatever is the only thing i remember.
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>>64555096
This anon gets it
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http://www.mr-avatar.com/home.html
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>>64555242
The Wii was the highest selling console that generation and each console sold offered a higher profit margin. You're an idiot.
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>>64555885
Only autists make those sort of connections
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>>64558274
That cigarette was CG too.
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>>64556091
He meant in that gen dumbass. Fuck off back to /v/eddit sony pony.
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>>64558188
Avatar is LITERALLY the biggest escapism movie ever made.

People even killed themselves after they realized they can't become a blue space cat.
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>>64559569

No, he didn't.
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>>64559596
based jim connecting with a generation to a degree unprecedented
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>>64556632
He didn't even say this. That's how shit it is
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>>64559902
>going against the >corporations are ebul meme

ok bud
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Both the AV Club and now deceased The Dissolve published very similar articles bashing Avatar. Do you guys know what these sites also share? Staff and a completely myopic pro-Marvel sentiment. They praised every single movie the studio put out, even the very mediocre Age of Ultron. These websites have an agenda and a view of cinema that tends to equal quotability - or its fallacious, euphemistic brother, 'cultural relevance' - with quality.
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>>64556632
He's a big guy
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