What's your favorite theory about the movie?
Do you have a theory on what its about?
Anyone else find it amusing that Kubrick exclusively attracts conspiracy cucks, those who spend their lives looking for meaning and narratives that just don't exist?
No? Nevermind then.
Theres a recent book about Danny Torrence, who becomes a burned out alcoholic using his gift to help the dead transition to the afterlife.
Its a good book, but people have a hard time accepting its not Shining 2: Back to Overlook
It's just 2deep4u bait. Any director can just put a bunch of random shit in a sequence and call it art, when they were just laughing their asses off at how people would waste decades looking for some kind of hidden "meaning" in their work.
Watched a video a while ago about how the hotel seems to contradict itself in its layout, like doors where there shouldn't be, the map of the maze doesn't match what it looks like on the inside. Essentially the characters get lost/trapped by the hotel literally, mimicking Jack's mental/spiritual entrapment by the end. Does this ring a bell for anyone?
It's weird how pervasive this idea is.
Why do you think someone would do this?
You don't spend millions of dollars and years of work on a project just to laugh at people trying to understand it. I suppose some people might if they could, but certainly not every notable art film director, as people like you would have me believe.
they guy got cabin fever, thats it.
if something happens in real life, the simplest explanation is the right one. if it happens in a movie, the most absurd, unnecesarily twisted and ""smart"" one is. fucking hipsters.
Rob Ager's videos. I buy into that theory because it's true the set has impossible windows/doors/stairwells, but whether that was intentional for messing with the audience subconciously is up for debate.
I just find it really hard to believe that Kubrick, John Alcott, and the production designer would put an impossible window in Ulman's office and not give a shit.
But I did just read "The Shining: Studies in the Horror Film" and not a single cast/crew member says that the spatial impossibilities were intentional.
I'd really like to see Jack interact with people in the bar during his drinking days. I bet he's a great drinking pal, just by the way he interacts with the bartender.
He seems like he's holding himself in any time he's around his family, which would be emotionally crippling to the kind of person I think he may be.
It happens all the time, it's just the natural discrepancies that come from blending real world and constucted sets, this is the only flick that autists scrutinize for it, because they're so insistent that it's something other than a silly screamfest.
Well of course the whole Native Indian thing is the most logical "hidden meaning."
In my opinion, I think Kubrick heard the rumors that he directed the moon landing and decided to fuck with people.
>Danny's shirt and whatnot
>Well of course the whole Native Indian thing is the most logical "hidden meaning."
This. I don't get why Room 237 seems to portray that one guy as crazy like the others, he makes some good points.
As an aside, what a shitty documentary that was. A genuine analysis with a mix of plausible and wild theories would be GOAT, instead they went for "lol laugh at these overanalytic freaks".
I've watched them. I've also worked in set design for 15 years. Which do you think it's more likely: that none of the hundreds of crew ever noted Kubrick obsessing over architectural geography and it took some Canadian basement dweller to figure it out 40 years later, or Kubrick put in a window because he needed a fucking window.
I haven't seen the film for years, but wasn't them walking past the corridor and into the room all one shot?
It's so obvious. Not even "Kubrick was a master of detail" obvious. I noticed it the second time I watched the film, before seeing any of these videos.
I don't think there's more to the positioning and layout than Kubrick messing with people, but I think it was definitely on purpose. It wasn't just to have a window or he'd have organized the sets so there could be a window, and it wasn't an oversight because it's so noticeable.