One thing that the Jodo Dune documentary didn't really touch upon is the fact that even though Jodo had a lot of big ideas expensive ideas, the studio rightfully thought they'd be impossible to implement in full. They saw him as a dreamer more than an accomplisher and didn't know how he'd manage a studio-sized budget.
Which makes sense if you think about it since nothing that grand in terms of Sci-Fi franchise had been achieved yet. It's hard to imagine a time before Star Wars and the big idea, big budget, big profit, Sci-Fi franchise. Star Wars largely paved that road when it came to summer blockbusters and Jodo missed out by a couple years. It also didn't help that Jodo is famously uncompromising and hard to manage. Studios like films and filmmakers that can be managed. For more info on that, see Fincher's discussions about Alien 3.
All of that is to say that once Giger realized Jodo was the captain of a sinking ship, he was enlisted by Ridley Scott, another Sci-Fi oriented filmmaker who could actually accomplish his vision on a budget. It was less thievery and more creative people coordinating when it was convenient.
>>64552676 He's Chilean, not Mexican, and made most of his most remembered movies in Spain.
>>64552598 I honestly like Giger because he has his mind on the right place. My friend, was born by really,really,really rich parents, he had everything he sesired whole his life and he was really talented, its not my subjective opinion, people actually came and wanted to pay him to do something. But his dumb opinion was that art does not exist and his talent cant be measured in money... anyway, now, 30 years later, no one gives a shit about him and he is left with wardrobes filled with doodles. And everyone pushed him, raised his low selfestem , we did everything in our power so he "sell" himself... what now.. no money and no one gives a shit, just another wasted anonymous talent(i really dont know if he would become some world renown "artist" or maybe he would just work in Vidya industry but he had the tools, parents to back him up, shit, his life was a fucking red carpet , he just had to walk straight and sit on the throne. I probably hate him a little because of that, but this is the reason I really like and consider Giger a great guy all around. It is truth that best work comes when artist is a little hungry but at the end of the day, if you dont put high price on your work, no one will cherish it, its just a way plebs figure real value of some "art".
I want to make a movie in actual space. It's like POTC but filmed in outer space on 7000mm film at 900fps. It uses all practical effects. There's going to be thousands of spaceships hundreds of miles long and every ship has a crew of 10 000 well trained men. Most of them are going to die when their ship blows up. For the actors I'm going to reincarnate classical Hollywood stars like Humphrey Bogart, Cary Grant, Marlon Brando, and Clint Eastwood. We're going to blow up Mars for this movie and about 8 million extras. It's going to cost about 3 times the GWP of the next century and completely deplete planet Earth of it's natural resources.
Oh gee what a great idea. Please make a documentary about how the world fails to fund my ambitious plan.
>>64553732 Maybe not a hack, but he's such an egotistical asshole. He made one good movie, El Topo, and thinks he's a god. Holy Mountain, while being an amazing movie, is just an adaptation of the Chemical Wedding and he botched the fuck out of the ending. And the Dune documentary is a huge testament to how full of himself he is because its about a movie that never fucking happened. I've heard he didn't even read the book and I believe it. I imagine he would've treated Giger like shit.
>>64554417 "O'Bannon soon accepted an offer to work on Alejandro Jodorowsky's film adaptation of Dune, a project which took him to Paris for six months. Though the project ultimately fell through, it introduced him to several artists whose works gave him ideas for his science-fiction story including Chris Foss, H. R. Giger, and Jean "Moebius" Giraud. O'Bannon was impressed by Foss's covers for science fiction books, while he found Giger's work "disturbing": "His paintings had a profound effect on me. I had never seen anything that was quite as horrible and at the same time as beautiful as his work. And so I ended up writing a script about a Giger monster." After the Dune project collapsed O'Bannon returned to Los Angeles to live with Shusett and the two revived his Memory script. Shusett suggested that O'Bannon use one of his other film ideas"
The 'team' who made alien met because of Jodorowsky
>>64554760 Yeah, people tend to forget that concept art and storyboards do not a film make.
Jodorowski has never really made a traditional narrative. He just doesn't tell that kind of story with his films.
So while his visuals would have probably been spectacular for their time, there's no way a studio would have handed him the money he needed to make his vision a reality. They were right to wait around for something more traditional and narratively safe like Star Wars.
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