>mfw they literally rehash the "Luke I am your father" scene in Episode VIII
> is Vader
> has all his limbs
OP confirmed for girl pretending to like Star Wars
>jj didnt want the villain to be old and decrepit like sheev
well he fucking is!!!!!
i sure hope they twist it and bring in a different villain, they should have made him an alien or something.
Well shit, Kylo Ren got similar scars after his fight with Rey. Thou they looked nowhere near the sevearity of Snoke's, but are in the same spots, top of forhead and jaw.
Maybe snoke is time traveling Kylo.
They are pretty close. If Snoke turns out to be Darth Plagueius maybe it'll turn out that because he created Anakin he had some sort of symbiotic relationship with him or something but then his limbs should be missing as well.
>Disney sees the name Sheev become a huge internet meme
>tries to make an immediate meme by naming the new Emperor "Snoke"
>edge teens working in 4chans meme factory hate the name
haha, maybe in 30 years, Disney!
>clone born with same tissue damage
Well if Snoke is a Vader clone. What if the entire scene of Vader (Snoke) telling Luke he is his father happens again except Luke is very confused because he already knew Vader was his father.
>star wars character is evil
>either a white man, someone disbaled or red/black alien
>"Hey guys, let's clone Vader"
>"Yeah, great idea man"
>"And then let's horribly scar him to make him weaker, so he looks more like Vader ended up"
7/10, I made a mildly complicated reply
They're going to do the most obvious thing and have Snoke be Palpatine's former master.
They won't even mention or reference Plageuis at all, leaving it for novelizations and side materials to figure out.
They'll probably handwave the entire issue away in a line or two and say that Palpatine attacked Snoke and left him for dead and Snoke's been biding his time and healing in the unknown regions etc etc...
Look at how flimsy the world-building and lore are in Ep7. It's going to be like that in Ep8 or Ep9. A lot of running around and barely any explanations.
I would like to add to my previous post by noting that Snoke's communing area had a very decrepit feeling, not unlike a crypt. This could have just been because he is the "epic new emperor" and they made it like that for shits and gigs, but considering the audio matches that grave tone I think they were strongly alluding to that.
Looks like it's been settled already
Makes sense since they want to avoid bringing anything into the new movies from the terrible prequels.
>have to kill your father to convince your master that you're a true sith
>killed him knowing full well that eventually you'll learn the secret of resurecting the dead from Plaguis in due time.
>defeat Snoke along with Rey and Luke
>bring your dad back to life
Snoke is Plagueis. Sensing that his apprentice (Palpatine) would attempt to kill him, he manipulated the Force to impregnate Anakin's mother with a child so powerful that it could grow to become the most powerful Sith ever to exist and eventually overpower Sidious. Therefore, only Anakin's offspring (Luke, and by extension Rey and any other potential siblings/blood relatives) possess the strength necessary to defeat him.
Why, if he is so powerful, Plagueis would go to all that trouble, rather than just killing Sidious himself, I have no clue. Perhaps Sidious really did get the jump on him, or Plagueis drastically underestimated his apprentice. Arrogance is one of many facets of the dark side.
Not that guy, but they are trying to distance the sequels from the prequels. This means that they won't try to explain everything on-screen. They may use Plageis cause of the recent books though.
TFA already had several prequel references, you just had to really pay attention. They knew that it would trigger a lot of autism so they made them harder to spot for the average person but they're there.
You people are still teenagers, aren't you? Prequels are shit. Disney wants to appeal to the older fans cause that means more profit in the long run, and also means less bad press.
The Force Awakens is a terrible, awful movie. I'm holding onto the notion that he is Plagueis so that there's a small chance the future movies won't be terrible and awful as well.
People still complaining about prequels.
They are too childish, or whatever.
How old were you when you saw the OT?
I was practically an infant.
The truth is, people shouldn't take Star Wars so seriously, it's more fun that way.
I saw them after the prequels, I'm only 25. It's like eating McDonald's for a long time and then eating at In-N-Out. I had seen parts of the movies in the 90s, though not completely.
Only good things about the prequels is the lightsaber fights, legos, and video games.
>Both are 7 feet tall
>Both have near identical scars
>Both are pale white
>Snoke is of an unknown origin but very humanoid
>Both watched the rise and fall of the Empire
>Only see the left arm of Snoke move.
>Anakin didnt lose his left arm
Go watch the movie again, its very obvious.
My theory is:
The Dark Side literally possessed Anakins body
Sheev is using Anakins body as a medium
Either way its Vaders body.
>Snoke can cheat death
>Meaning what he can do is be born again
>Anakin is born of Plageius's dark magic
>Snoke is Plageius
>Plageius knew Sheev would kill jim
>Created a new body to be reborn in
>Snoke is Plageius is Anakin Is Vader
>Vader's/Anakin's body is Snoke reanimating it as his life force was weak but is now powerful enough to 'live again' albeit feebly 'for now' in the husk of Vader's old body.
Wrong dumbass, shitpost all you want but check the facts.
Ashes from the pyre. Which we saw vaders armor in.
Aftermath novel established that Sidious had come to believe that the dark side had a physical source beyond the known parts of the galaxy, in the Unknown Regions.
He established a group to search it out. This group fell into Vader worship, and is implied to be part of the origin of the Knights of Ren.
I have a theory that I pray is false, because the idea of the dark side having a physical source is retarded, but my theory is that Snoke is that source.
>TFA has several prequel references in it
That's just some obsessive over-analysis of banners outside Maz's castle.
Recycling a few banners and throwing in a couple visual easter eggs for obsessive superfans to pore over in the trailer is not the same as actually referencing the prequels in the movie.
Episode VII doesn't make direct reference to anything from the prequels. The closest it comes is when Kylo Ren says that maybe he should consider a clone army, but that semi-reference is actually refuting the prequels, in which all storm troopers are clones. In Episode VII we see that that is no longer the case, and perhaps in the new reality of the flick it "was never the case".
Nah, those are references. Talk it down all you want but it won't change it. They are podracing flags and flags from various criminal organizations in TCW. Now try and refute Ewan McGregor.
Also Stormtroopers are not clones and never were. They are recruits. This is covered in Rebels and has been known long before that. Clone troopers were put out to pasture after the Clone Wars ended.
>perhaps in the new reality of the flick it "was never the case".
>he doesn't watch Star Wars: Rebels
The clones have growth acceleration that makes them age twice as fast as a normal human.
This has downsides long-term.
They also take 10 years to grow, even with the growth acceleration, so if you want new clones now, you need to have ordered them 10 years ago. That means a clone army can't meet the demands of a sudden escalation of war, and it's a waste in the event of a sudden outbreak of peace.
After the Clone Wars, the Empire started recruiting normal people for the military, and eventually made all the clones retire -- with thanks for their service and a warning not to cause trouble. By the time of Star Wars: Rebels -- 5 years before ANH -- the clones had been out of service for years. Every stormtrooper you see in the OT was recruited from an Imperial world.
And yes, Rebels is canon. It started under Disney, after the purge.
But thanks for confirming that the reason people like TFA is not because it's any good -- because it's not, it's shit -- but because they want to spite the prequels.
>thanks for confirming that the reason people like TFA is not because it's any good -- because it's not, it's shit -- but because they want to spite the prequels.
I don't believe I confirmed anything about people in general and their feelings for Episode VII and the prequels. I didn't even state my own feelings on either Episode VII or the prequels.
He means that no Disney canon source has mentioned what race Plagueis was.
We know Plagueis was a Muun because George said it, then Legends said it, but Legends doesn't apply anymore, and it's anybody's guess whether George's statement is still canon.
I was about two to three years old when I first saw Star Wars and I don't remember that. What I do remember though is that one of my earliest memories is seeing a Star Wars opening crawl when I was 4 and and thinking I remember that theme from somewhere.
>How closely did you work with Lucas Licensing on Darth Plagueis? How much did George get involved? What advice did he give you?
George was involved in the early stages. When the book was first proposed, I wrote to him and asked whether there was any reason why Plagueis couldn't be a non-human, and he wrote back that Plagueis could be a Muun and sent me some artist renderings of the character. From that point on, everything was approved, as they're saying, “at the highest level.” I worked most closely with George's right-hand man at Lucas licensing, Howard Roffman. It was a strange way to go about the book, because I kind of had to bypass both Del Rey and the usual editorial staff at Lucasfilm and work directly with Howard over the course of what amounted to about a year of preparation.
>"if anybody would know of Snoke's origin, it would be Maz"
>camera focuses on Maz
>"that is a story for another time"
>thread about the reconstruction of vader and his disfigured corpse
>no references to the best piece of star wars related media that only recently entered our lives and collective consciousness
is quoting RLM an establishment now, and thus we are all against it?
>They burned his armor but the body disappeared like Obi-Wan's
When Ren first takes his helmet of he puts it down in a bowl of ashes, Vader's ashes. Body didn't disappear, that was just Obi Wan for some reason. Qui Gon managed to become a force ghost too, and his body didn't disappear.
>Qui Gon managed to become a force ghost too, and his body didn't disappear
Didn't QuiGon only manage it part way through though? Like he could speak through the force but he couldn't actually manifest a force ghost?
What if Snoke is the entity Plagueis and Sidious attempted to make (whose creation backfired and resulted in Anakin) manifesting as all the dark side aspects of Anakin's life as Vader, through some loophole only able to come to life once the prophecy of Anakin was fulfilled?
All these theories are retarded, vader clone? plagueis? I hope they don't go with that, or with a sheev possession bullshit.
Snoke should be his own character, a dude strong in the dark side who took over the empire's remnants when he saw the chance.
>he will be a darth
No he wont, the time of the Sith is over. There are no more Darths. Kylo Ren is his dark side name.
Snoke was the last victim of the EmPal Surgical Reconstruction center, Sheev should've overseen the budget more closely.
Snookerdoodle is not a Sith, Darths don't factor in anymore.
I will say that all this vague shit about Snoop is so overbearing that it would be a big kick to the dick if it turned out he was an entirely original and/or completely unrelated to any previously existing character, but I HIGHLY doubt he's Plageuis. If there is a list of currently canon book material out there, I'd say go hunting through the dark corners of that, because there'd be a reason they'd say certain things are still relevant over others.
False, Snoke has no lights that do nothing on him, nor any distracting shine.
>False, Snoke has no lights that do nothing on him, nor any distracting shine.
They were all on his face, the scars are from when he ripped them out
>Whatever then, most other projections where life size or smaller.
Aside from the emperor's projection in Empire, where its like a 10 foot tall projection of JUST HIS HEAD
>I can feeeeeeeeel your anger inside you, it makes you stronger
I think touching the lightsaber just gave Rey her memories back and that "awakened" the force in her, which cause the vision
>they ditched the godlike concept art for this generic trite
I'm guessing that's what he is going to look like in the next movies when we see him in person and not in a hologram. I hope so.
More like i'm gonna Snort cocaine until i become white and my nose implodes
It's painfully obvious that Snoke is Rey's "father", however not in the biological sense.
She will either be a test tube jedi created by Snoke or from Snoke's dna, making her his creation.
That's why she is so naturally in tune with the force.
This. Remember Lost? Abrams has no idea where to go with this shit, he just tosses a bunch of story bits at a wall and hopes they coalesce into something interesting (spoiler alert: they don't)
I didn't know they mentioned midichlorians in the films, I thought Lucas hated the idea of the Force strength having biological origins and not spiritual as it cheapens characters and their choices
I also thought this is why he hated the KOTOR games too
Meh, I doubt it. I'm more of the opinion that he's Valkorion or some rip off of him. I also think its possible that Kylo's helmet really IS Revan's and that Snoke collects Sith artifacts like Revan and Vader's helmets, possibly how he managed to get Kylo the "ancient" design for his lightsaber. Also explains how First Order got the Starkiller, which is basically the Star Forge which Valkorion sent Revan and Malak to find.
If Ben dosent come to the light side, then I feel his entire character will be wasted.
Another generic bad guy dying a bad guys death is not what we need.
They need to develop his character for future movies.
Honestly, those people are delusional. They read some shit EU, and convince themselves it's actually important and not just a shoddy product designed to cash in on the franchise name.
Then it's just projecting what they want. "Well I like Revan/Plagueis, so I'm sure Disney will put them in a movie!" Even though Disney will never put either on the screen because they can't understand they are a part of the niche neckbeard market and the movies aren't made for them.
I mean, fuck, imagine Disney doing a KotoR movie. The average moviegoer response would be "Why are they remaking Star Wars already?" considering how derivative KotoR is on the movies.