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Is it blue lightsabers for padawans, and green lightsabers for jedi masters?
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Lightsaber colors are all over the place.
The color should be the same as the crystal the one inside the saber.
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>>64523293
It's the Jedi's choice.
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According to the EU the crystal decides the color. I don't think the movies ever officially gave an answer what dictates the color. However Luke was originally supposed to have a blue lightsaber in Jedi, but ILM realized that because of the Tatooine sky was blue, the lightsaber wasn't visible in the outdoor shots against the blue sky in the background. So they changed it to green so that it would be more visible. Also there is a deleted, short scene from ROTJ which shows Luke assembling his lightsaber and igniting it. If you don't believe me about ILM changing the color of the lightsaber from blue to green, just watch early teasers for Return of the Jedi where it is still blue.
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>>64523835
This is true, but i'm sure Wookieepedia has a 8 page essay about the colors of lightsabers.
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>>64523835
You can only construct a lightsaber in some meditating trance or some shit right?
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>>64523293
In The Clone Wars the crystal chosed the padawan... kinda. And TCW is canon.
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>>64523968
I'll do you one better and share this extremely autistic (and completely inaccurate) guide with you all
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>>64523835
ROTJ Luke was the first Coldsteel character of Star Wars. He dresses in all-black and uses a lightsaber with a special snowflake color. Pshh nothin personnel Jabba
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>>64524035
Welp looks like i'm getting comfy in this thread for a while. Any more like this anon?
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>>64524092
Not to my knowledge, but knowing the autism of the expanded universe I'm SURE there's more out there somewhere.
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>>64524171
Wait how was Mace both affiliated with the light and dark side?
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>>64524249
Because he is a black Jedi, duh
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>>64524249
Well, he is a jedi but he is also black.
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>>64524249
he's black
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>>64524249
Willing to kill Sheev I guess
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>>64524249
He wasn't, it's a bullshit excuse made up by the EU. The real reason Jackson had a purple lightsaber is even more stupid than the green lightsaber for Luke.
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>>64524249
I think the idea is that Jedi Masters are so well-disciplined that they can tap into the dark side of the Force without turning evil. He regularly skirts around Jedi code by lopping off Jango's head without any hesitation and trying to assassinate Sheev.
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>>64524405
which is?
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Best Lightsaber
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>>64523835
Don't let this guy fool you, the EU isn't canon, meaning it is purely fanfiction and shouldn't be taken as actual lore
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>>64524446
Samuel L Jackson wanted to stand out in the arena scene so he asked for a purple lightsaber
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>>64524446
he wanted to stand out from the other Jedi, so he asked George for a unique color.
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>>64524486
>>64524488
>purpledrankmind
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>>64524249

Samuel L Jackson wanted a purple lightsaber and he got it. There is nothing more to it.

But in the EU he did use the dark side a bit in his fighting style (this has nothing to do with the color of his lightsaber, that chart the other anon posted is pure horseshit). He used a fighting style called Vapaad, which takes extreme skill to master as a Jedi since you sort of use controlled rage. You could fall to the dark side if you're not careful.

Please note he held his own against the emperor because he used the dark side too. I say held his own because i refuse to believe sheev could be defeated like that, he wanted to be defeated so Anakin would see him in pain and turn.
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No, Luke had a Green Lightsaber because Tatooine has a blue sky and it would have been stupid to film him fighting bad guys in an open desert with what would have been an invisible sword.

Vader had a Red saber because he was a bad guy. Mace Wi du had a purple one because Sammy L Jackson wanted to be special.

There are no in-mobie explanations other than the obvious.
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>>64523293
Blue = good
Green = more good
Red = bad
Purple = black
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>>64524553
>i refuse to believe sheev could be defeated like that

Palp was thrown off a bridge and died screaming like a bitch, yes he could easily be defeated the way he was by Mace.
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>>64524721

But that was sheev in full on scheming mode, i really think he planned that because he sensed anakin coming near, so he threw the fight.

Sheev getting shreked by Vader was just Sheev getting shreked by Vader, nothing more to it indeed. I guess he got a bit complacent and cocksure.
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LIGHTSABER DUEL TIERS

God tier
Luke vs Vader ROTJ
Luke vs Vader ESB

Classic tier
Obi-Wan vs Vader ANH
Obi-Wan+Qui-Gon vs Maul

Meme tier
Sheev vs Windu et. al.
Sheev vs Yoda

Literally whatever tier
Qui-Gon vs Maul

Dogshit tier
Obi-Wan vs Grevious
Obi-Wan+Anakin vs Magnaguards
Obi-Wan+Anakin vs Dooku
Yoda vs Dooku
Obi-Wan vs Vader ROTS

Why are there only fucking four good fights with these 'iconic' weapons?
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Can jedi use blasters?
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>>64525045
So uncivilized!
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>>64524955
Because the first four that you listed were actually important to the film and have actual movie paceing. The rest are literally video game cut scenes.
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>>64523999
>in the clone wars
fucking dropped and discarded
i want cartoon babbys to fuck off
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>>64525045
They could, and sometimes did during war time, but Jedi did not typically carry blasters for the same reason they didn't use armor: They didn't consider themselves warriors and they felt by arming themselves like warriors they would fall into that role. The lightsaber is a woefully inefficient weapon for fighting a war, the Jedi would be much more lethal with blasters. Imagine someone who can see the future with a sniper rifle.

Luke actually used one in the EU novels, he headshot like 50 alien noobz before it ran out of charge.
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>>64524553
Well in the book sheev loses for exactly that reason. He knows anakin is coming and wants to test him.
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The color tells how much battery life the lightsaber has left.

>Green: Loads of battery ife left (Luke had it in ROTJ because his saber was new.)

>Blue: Medium battery life left. Qui-gon's lightsaber (which Ob-iwan took) had almost full battery during TPM, but it was medium in TCW because he used it so much.

>Red, low battery left. Vader and Sheev cba to use the charger because Sheev can just use sith electricity to charge them up whenever he wants.
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>>64525404
I suppose Yellow means it's in low-power mode, but what about Purple?
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>>64524955
The Obi Wan duel fit better into the movie's plot than the duels in the prequels, and it also cemented the lightsaber as a pop culture symbol. However, the fight itself was pretty lame because one actor was too old to do it properly and the other was encased in an unwieldy costume. The part where Guinness tries to do a spin and does it painfully slowly being a case in point
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>>64525486
High power mode. Basically like turning the torch on with a mobile phone, it's more powerful but will run out quicker.
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Blue are the Warriors
Green the Negotiators
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>>64525194
>Not watching the last Star Wars thing in which George Lucas was involved.
>Not watching one of the few things that Disney didn't send to the Legends world.
>Muh kids show.

Watch the webm.
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>>64525691
but the negotiations never take place
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>>64524035
>old canon and fan-fiction rolled into one
Shit image
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>>64525738
>yoda and sheev still use lightsabers
>jar jar episodes
>buy all our playsets and toys
Show sucks
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>>64524092
Fucking kill yourself.
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>>64525794
>Stop having fun
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>>64524533
Fuck off fag.
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>>64525792
>"Muh jedi an sith use weapons, oh no!"
>I bet it's impossible to skip those episodes.
>I bet you are forced to buy toys.
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>>64525738
fuck your cartoons and fuck george lucas
weeb your shit isn't canon
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>>64525846
>fun
Nothin personnel kid, but you need to stop being manchild and grow up.
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>>64525953
>Disliking this thing you like makes me smarter than you!
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>>64525745
>>64525792
>>64525794
>>64525931
>>64525931
>>64525953
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>>64525931

It's canon. :)
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>>64523293
Green sabers are for more diplomatic minded Jedi, blue is for Jedi who lean toward a proficiency with weapons.
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>>64525913
Well shit anon most shows are good if you skip the shitty parts. Are you saying the show is good because there's like 20% of it that's not shit?
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>>64526052
is this real?
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>>64526052
>20%
Have you watched the show?
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>>64524405
Niggers love grape juice
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>>64526112
All too real anon. Sheev even uses two lightsabers to fight off Darth Maul's half a corpse and Maul's secret brother. The series is schlock.

>>64526117
If you're asking if I've watched every episode, no. If you're implying I have no idea what I'm talking about, I've seen enough to know what the show is.
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>>64525224
>they didn't consider themselves warriors

Jedi "KNIGHT"
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>>64526328
>"KNIGHT"

Like that means anything.
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>>64526296
That's hilarious. Though that said the best star wars media does have Luke fight his clone Luuke.
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>>64526052
anyone got a webm of this in action?
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>>64526052

>Didn't like Krell
kek
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>>64525792
This

Yoda and sheev should have remained soley force users that were so good they could control things around them instead of using a "jedi weapon"
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>>64526010

SHEEV
H
E
E
V
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>>64526152
>not watching the backblast
>the backblast doesn't affect the guy right behind him
FUCKING DROPPED
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>>64526593

>So powerful he gets picked up and thrown down a hole
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>>64526646

Probably because there isn't any. There's just a small puff of smoke.
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>>64525224
>They didn't consider themselves warriors

Literally one of the first things Obi-Wan says about Anakin is that he was a cunning warrior. Also the first thing that comes into Luke's mind when Obi-Wan says that he was a Jedi is that he fought in the clone wars. Jedi were clearly meant to be warriors.
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>>64526658
There was nothing in the OT that implied sheev or yoda could jump around like fucking ninjas and pull out a lightsaber and go to town like they do in the PT
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>>64526658
requesting new special edition where TR-8R yells his catchphrase when Vader tosses Sheev into the trash.
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>>64524035
>RotJ Luke
>Holding pacifist ideals in his hearth
Kek
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>>64526692
Then that rocket launcher must be a worthless piece of shit
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>Blue
Saber master who focus on combat
>Green
Wise master who focus on the force
>Red
Edge master who focus on the dark side
>Purple
Master who focus on the darker side of combat
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>>64526785

It's star wars tech. It just works.
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>>64525738
clone wars > the clone wars
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>>64526415
>>64526419
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>>64526112
It's real, but to be fair his character is barely shown using them and the 4 episode arc that he is apart of is one of the best in the series.
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>>64525744
>*Aggressive Negotiators.
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>>64526838
good thing none of those troopers can shoot anywhere within his direction
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>>64526836
>dragon ball star wars > the clone wars

Ok.
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>>64526838

is that dexter jettser

what the fuck
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>>64526909

No you racist.
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>>64526838
that's badass as fuck

like a more powerful grevious
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>>64526833
Star Wars tech is always how the wrtiter wants it to be sometimes its extremly advanced and other times not any better than our tech. Blaster bolts in Clone Wars also move as fast as nerf ammo. It's incredibly slow in some shots.
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>>64526767
>literally throws his lightsaber away when he realizes Vader can be turned

The big fight scene on tatooine was only because he had no other way to free Han, even Yoda kicks ass when he needs to in the prequels.
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>>64526953
When the clones try to arrest him he actually says: "It's treason, then".

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN.
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>>64526925
#NotallBesalisks
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>>64526838
>cover me guys im gonna run right up to the guy with 4 laser swords
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>>64526838
What's the point in even giving Stormtroopers blasters?
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>That one spider droid that puppets dead clones to hide behind them
>They kill it and hundreds of tiny versions of itself swarm out of holes in its head
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>>64527096

pics/webm pls
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>>64524955
Where does Mary Sue's lightsaber duel fall within this list?
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>>64527128
this fuckin thing
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>>64527227
what the fugg
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>>64524463
this tbqh mi familia. would love to see more wood hilted sabers in this universe. and more wookiee jedi for that matter.
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>>64525404
This should be canon
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>>64526838
WTF why would that one guy just run up to him
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>>64526838
OL BUDDY
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>>64524663
fucking finn is too stupid to figure this shit out
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>>64527468
Couldn't hit him with his blaster.
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Hello, I am an expert on all things Lightsaber-color related.

Ask me anything you like about Lightsaber colors and I will answer it.

Be forewarned, any and everything you ask about why a lightsaber is a certain color will be answered with, "Because that is the color of its crystal."

Now, I know that you probably didn't understand that, so please ask me about lightsaber colors so I can tell it to you again and you can once more fail to understand it.
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>>64525404
uhh who is sheev? I'm being retarded here I know
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>>64524035
>EU

OP DON'T GET FOOLED BY THE DARK SIDE.

Also BTFO >>64524249
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>>64526013
Hando is the best character in that series. Straight fucking pimp in every episode.
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If it's not in the movies, it doesn't matter.
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>>64523293
>KOTOR
Three crystal spots inside the lightsaber (color crystal-stat crystal #1-stat crystal #2)

Blue for Guardians/Weaponmasters
Green for Consulars/Masters
Yellow for Sentinels/Watchmen
Red for Sith
any other color are for special snowflakes

>EU/Legends
Crystal chooses the owner and owner finds it elsewhere or makes one with enough force concentration, Crystal-rich planets like Ilum and Dantooine are used by Jedi to farm crystals and the rarer ones are generally better.

You have Sith and Jedi using unconventional colors but they're mostly special snowflakes and stick to the generic blue, green, yellow and red. There are white, silver, orange, gold, purple and aqua ones as well. They also switch lightsaber colors as such is the case with Kyle Katarn (Blue, Green, Aqua, Yellow) and exceptions to the rule like Ben Skywalker (Red, even though he's a goody two shoes kid).

tl;dr WE WUZ CRYSTALS AND SHIT

>Movies
Blue and Green for Jedi
Yellow, Orange, Purple, Aqua, White for special snowflakes
Red for Sith

Dindu chose purple so he would stand out in the arena battle, Luke used blue until he switched to green because blue sucks in Tatooine.
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>>64527618
So why is Luke's saber green though? I get that he has a green crystal, but why is the crystal green?
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>>64527619
He doesn't know who Sheev is.
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>>64527918

Because he has a green crystal in his lightsaber.

Next.
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>>64524035
>so many colours
>every but 1 fag has one of 3 colours
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>>64526953

>that's badass as fuck

You have to be 18 to use 4chan, Anon
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>>64527997
But why is the crystal green?
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>>64527918

The crystal reflects that said color while and absorbs all the other visible colors of the spectrum, which causes the human eye to see the reflected color.
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>>64528034

Because it is a green crystal.

Why is the blue rock in my backyard blue? Why is the purple stone in my class ring purple? Because the rock is blue, and the stone is purple, and those are the colors they are.

Luke has a green lightsaber.

Lightsaber color is determined by its crystal.

Luke has a green crystal in his lightsaber.

The Lightsaber blade is green because the crystal is green.

That is its color.
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>>64524035

It's canon that the Death Star beam was powered by giant green Kyber crystals.
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>>64524035

I like how the person who made this doesn't even know who Kyle Katarn is or why he's holding a yellow lightsaber in that image.
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>>64528054
>>64528112
Ok I get that. But why is the saber green? Just cause his crystal is green doesn't mean the blade needs to be too.
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>>64528248
>Just cause his crystal is green doesn't mean the blade needs to be too.

Yes, it does.

Color of the Lightsaber = Color of the Crystal

Blue Crystals make Blue Lightsabers. Red Crystals make Red Lightsabers.

X Color Crystal makes X Color Lightsaber
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>>64527619
BACK TO REDDDDIT
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>>64527027
lol'd
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>>64528248

See, I wasn't lying when I said

>Be forewarned, any and everything you ask about why a lightsaber is a certain color will be answered with, "Because that is the color of its crystal."
>Now, I know that you probably didn't understand that, so please ask me about lightsaber colors so I can tell it to you again and you can once more fail to understand it.

Because I said it, and you asked, and I said it again, and you asked again, knowing full well you'd get the exact same answer.
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>>64526838
Size matters not but having six arms sure seems to help, Yoda
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>>64528305
>>64528439
but that doesn't really answer my question. You say crystal color=blade color but that doesn't explain why Luke's crystal is green but the blade is blue?
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>>64527225
Meme obviously
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>>64524035
lmao star wars lore is so fucking shit
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>>64528616

Luke's lightsaber had a green blade. I'm not sure why you are mistaking this.

It is possible you are referring to Luke's lightsaber in A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, which is blue, and is not his own. It is his father's.

Anakin Skywalker's Lightsaber = Blue Blade, Blue Crystal

Luke Skywalker's Lightsaber = Green Blade, Green Crystal
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>>64528624
>that image
dank meme
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>>64528910
But it's true
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>>64528767
I think you might be confused. See >>64528624
Luke's lightsaber has a blue blade. And like the other guy said his crystal is green.
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>>64527619
>who
>is
>sheev
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>>64527319
George Lucas himself vehemently hated the idea of wookie jedi
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>>64529036

>And like the other guy said his crystal is green.

No, it isn't.

That picture shows Luke wielding his father's lightsaber. Not his own lightsaber.

It is a blue lightsaber, therefore it has a blue crystal.

It is not his lightsaber, nor is it his crystal.
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>>64524955
I thought Obi-Wan vs Darth Vader ROTS was pretty good.
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>>64529124
Then why is he using what isn't his? Wouldn't his dad get mad at him for using his stuff without asking? I know my stepdad does.
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>>64529124
>getting baited this hard

Anon pls are you autistic?
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>>64529164

You are very unintelligent and also not funny.

>>64529170

I am autistic because I have an autistic crystal inside of me.
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>>64523835
>According to the EU
You mean, worthless fan fiction that has no value at all...
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>>64529170
shhhh
Don't tip him offI'm having fun
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>>64529036
excellent post, have a (you)
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>>64529147
Seriously are you from reddit or not?
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>>64529036

Wow, are you a fucking idiot?
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>>64529205
you're autistic because you got sent on a loonie tunes style loop. might wanna talk to a doctor get that checked out.
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Green represents a connection to the Living Force, the Force energy created by all living things. Those who wield the green blade are empathetic and compassionate to creatures of all shapes and sizes. Qui Gon, Yoda, Luke.

Blue represents a connection to the Cosmic Force. The Force energy which exists on a higher plane, the great celestial power which envelops the Galaxy. Those who wield the blue blade are consumed with the larger philosophical issues, justice, and balance. Anakin and Obi Wan.
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>>64529286

The actual answer is that their lightsaber crystals match their lightsaber blades. Ergo:

>Qui Gon, Yoda, Luke
Have green crystals.

>Anakin and Obi Wan
Have blue crystals.

There is no higher explanation.
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>>64529010
But it's not her first time flying and her going to find Luke makes perfect sense, she's got the force and it's not like she's alone. Chewie and R2 are there too.
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>>64529250
thank you, here's a (you) for you too.
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>>64529270
Nah m8, I just have a different opinion from yours.
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>>64529585
Go shitpost with the crystal autists, I don't have time for this
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>>64529631
You can take your polite difference of opinion and shove it straight up your nigger ass.
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>>64529652
I agree Rey is a Mary Sue, that image just has some things wrong with it.
When you include bad info in your argument it makes the solid stuff look weaker too.
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>>64530077
Then how is it not her first time flying, please
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>>64529357
But wait hold the fuck on, why does Mace have a purple lightsaber?
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>>64530677
He found the only amethyst in the universe.
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>>64530212
She says she's a pilot, that's all you needed Luke to say in ANH to believe him. Did you need the specific kind of ship she flew?
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>>64531110
She's an orphan who can barely scavenge enough for space bread so it might be nice.
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>>64531181
Really, that changes it for you? Her saying 'I can fly' isn't enough but 'I've flown a 212 cargo shuttle before' is somehow vastly different? Talk about splitting hairs.
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>>64531237
>Her saying 'I can fly' isn't enough but 'I've flown a 212 cargo shuttle before' is somehow vastly different?
No you tit. A justification for how/why she's a pilot would though.
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>>64529228
>having fun
>pretending to be severely retarded

go get that check out
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>>64525738

This is so hot.
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>>64531110
You're really reaching there anon

Luke
>is shown playing with a single seat civilian fighter
>is said by ben to "have become quite good at flying his ship"
>says himself he used to fly his T-16
>says the exhaust port is an easy target and he used to bullseye similar shit
>is the son of a landed farmer so the whole situation is believable

Rey
>says "I'm a pilot"
>is never shown in any situation that might indicate she indeed is a pilot
>is a poor scavenger that has to scrape by everyday for food
>the closest thing she has to a ship is her ice-cream speeder
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>>64523293
No, this meme needs to fucking die.

The crystals have literally no meaning. It's all cosmetic.

The ONLY possible justification is the Sith all using Red because the Jedi hoarded all the crystal deposits.

But that's EU shit so it doesn't apply anymore.

Like others have stated, it was originally supposed to be just Red and Blue - Evil and Good. A visual representation of Lucas's Black and White morality that the films were supposed to convey.

It wasn't until RotJ with contrast issues that ILM changed the color of the Luke's Saber to Green. Then it was Red, Blue and Green for the next 20-ish years.

Then the EU (mainly the games) decided: "why the fuck not?" and added every color of the rainbow.

KotORFags will claim that Jedi Classes are still a thing (Guardian, Counselor, Sentinel etc.) but those are also non-canon.

TL;DR - No there's no class/color association.

OP probably only thinks that because he saw TPM and assumed that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were a microcosm of the entire Jedi Order.
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>>64527225
Meme tier, it's better than most of the prequel dogshit but it's basically ruined by 2 things

1. Lightsabers are just fucking laser baseball bats. They clobber each other for no reason with shallow blows when they could just kill each other. There is no reason Finn survived other than plot armor.

2. Rey going into 'FORCE CENTER BALANCE' mode and suddenly kicking ass. The fight, movie and character would have been IMMENSELY more believable if they got into the saber lock, having just seen what Finn had happen to his shoulder during a lock, saw the vent coming towards her arm.

We get a shot of her face and she's terrified, her face basked in the light blue of her saber. Then as the blade comes closer and closer we start to see her blade gradually shoved aside and Ren's covers her face in a red glow, her fear turns to rage and she kicks his ass.

Then we see her remorseful at the end, and that weird imploring look she gives to Luke makes more sense. We could see her being afraid of what she could become, like Luke was on Dagobah. It would instantly give her much of the depth and believability that she lacked and would allow her to cast off the Mary Sue meme. But nope, too complex of a story for Disney, can't have our newest princess having any character flaws or weaknesses!
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>>64526992
The dude's first 5 seconds in screen is spent choking out pigs. Hardly pacifistic.
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>>64526836
fuck no wonder I've been confused. I never had an interest in the animated one, but I've seen webms from the cgi show. Then I saw 2d animated ones so i thought there was 2 animated shows but only one was called the clone wars. Now I know otherwise
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>>64531652
CW is more cool as fuck action scenes
TCW is more heavy character development and a few well placed feels in the late seasons
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>>64531331
Gold lightsabers are definitely balling though
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>>64525194
>thinking this shit is cartoon babby tier
the clone wars fucking pushed it man
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>>64531539
I personally liked only two fights in the entire series.
>Luke vs Vader (RotJ)
>Anakin vs Obi-Wan (RotS)

The rest are dogshit to me personally. Star Wars isn't known for it's deep and intricate fights (rather the flashy laser swords themselves), just the emotional investment people have with the characters.

Both duels show the culmination of the main characters (good and bad) as they develop and hone their skills. And both ending fights have high stakes:
RotJ
>If Luke doesn't beat Vader, then he and Palpatine take over the Galaxy again with the Empire
RotS
>If Obi-Wan doesn't beat Anakin, then he gains free reign over the universe in his prime with Sheev as a teacher.

They have completely different choreographical styles which both make contextual sense.
RotJ
>Luke is a kid with only 1 week of Formal Training with a Time-skip consisting of improvisation.
>Vader is a crippled shell of a man weakened by old age and prosthetics.
RotS
>Anakin and Obi-Wan are two of the best Jedi in the Galaxy.
>Both are relatively in their Prime with decades of formaltraining.

Complain about the nature of the Prequel fight all you damn well want. You have the right to do that. But do not be that fucking dumbass who doesn't recognize their contextual important.

You are right about the TFA duel though.
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>>64531766
some one should cut all that 'Nam tier shit from Clone Wars and play It Aint Me and other 'Nam classics over those scenes
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>>64531307
Your entire validation for a character's skill set is other characters knowing about it?
>toys
>moisture farmers need planes
>luke says it so it's fine, but not when rey says it
>luke is never shown in any situation that might indicate he indeed is a pilot
Your biggest point is "she's poor" but it doesn't mean she's never flown as work before. You really really just want that tiny little extra detail and suddenly you don't care any more. If that's all it takes then it's not a problem, it's a nitpick.
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>>64531842
>It Aint Me
it's actually called Fortunate Son
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>>64526803
>Red
>Edge master who focus on the dark side
underrated
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>>64531917
This is ridiculous

How much are you paid to post here, friend?
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>>64527619
>who is sheev
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>>64527619
>mfw you're now an enemy of the republic
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>>64531816
>not liking ESB luke v. vader
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>>64531930
Look at this idiot
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>>64532305
dumb shit
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>>64532422
You're pretty new here, aren't you pal?
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>>64532184
That wasn't a fight pham.
That was Vader being a dick to his son and chopping his hand off because of plot.
In all seriousness, Luke has no chance.

ANH and ESB have already built Vader up as a badass that Force Chokes people and toss them aside like ragdolls with one-hand. If Vader were really out to kill, he could've Force Choked Luke right there and then. But he didn't.

This tells us that Vader is fucking with Luke (probably because he now knows that he's fighting his own son).

>He didn't look when attempting to Freeze Luke
>He casually tosses debris at Luke instead of Choking him or slicing him in half.
>He has an ambush set up in the hallway, but monologues over it because plot - giving Luke an auditory cue to dodge.

It's not that people can't enjoy it, but I personally can't because I can't root for Luke. The poor bastard is at the mercy of his Father.

At least in RotJ Luke had some prior showings of being a capable fighter:
>Mind Trick
>Stopping the Rancorr
>Beating Boba Fett (or at least holding his own before plot killed him)
>Telekinesis
etc.

All of this before taking on Vader again for the second time.
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>>64532422
how many hours in photoshop bro?
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>>64532495
0
google it yourself
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>>64532696
Is this some ebin reverse reverse bait?
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>>64528117
Where is it confirmed?
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>>64532696
You're a fucking retard what are you even talking about?
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>>64532482
It was a fight because luke had the advantage of vader not wanting to kill him
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>>64523293
Apparently jedi go into a cave and pick their own crystal or something. Which doesn't make any sense, or else you'd see different shades of blue or green. Instead it's always the same generic rainbow ones with no in between.
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>>64532750
>>64532765
this meme needs to end now
unless you're talking about that bob dylan song
which if you are is fucking retarded since none of his discography gets you pumped up at all
and it's called "It Ain't Me Babe"
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>>64532446
Frogposters aren't welcome on /tv/
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>>64532181
DAM E THEY TRIED TO FADE YOU ON DRE DAY
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>>64532969
autism
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>>64524035
This is C3PO levels of autism
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>>64533271
how?
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>>64524249

Windu has a weird fighting style which makes him completely OP against Dark Side users.

Essentially he's able to absorb their hate/anger when fighting them, so he actually gains power over them while they grow weaker as the fight goes on (or something).

This is why Mace was able to beat Sheev single handily while Yoda couldn't take him.
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>>64525738
Hnnnnnnnnhhhhhh
Tfw when not being able to stroke her bald head
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>>64526838
Clone troopers only focus on syyyyymboooools.
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>>64531761
are gold/silver and yellow/white really that different though?
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>>64531917
>>64531971
The point about the skyhopper was legit though, why did Luke have a skyhopper
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>>64533395
Not him but you are getting really worked up about a meme, this is /tv/ dude
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>>64531766
Kids nowadays watch this kind of shit.
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>>64526992
wew

Basically the entirety of RotJ was about Luke coming closer to the dark side, just as Yoda said would happen if he left Dagobah before completing his training, which is why the Emperor is able to tempt him so much. But when he sees the hand of Vader and realizes his vision of "becoming his father" is coming true, he is able to reject the dark side completely, thus essentially fulfilling his development arc. It's really nice, and is the only really good element of RotJ, and it definitely needs more credit.

Though, it's often lost on many people now, who think the only change in Luke between 5 and 6 was that he got "more badass".

>even Yoda kicks ass when he needs to in the prequels
The fact that Yoda, as well as Sheev, even had LS at all, much less used them, basically devalued a lot of the message both characters conveyed in Empire and Return. It was just a decision designed to sell toys.

MAYBE you could justify that Sheev has a LS because he never actually uses it to win (with Mace, he just pretends to loose in order to trick Anakin into joining him, and he's basically just fucking with Yoda), but that's a bit of a stretch.
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>>64532181
>straight outta the senate
But, anon, he IS The Senate.
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>>64534096
aight mang, fair enough
i love to b8 people, but i also fall for it all the time
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>>64533994
Because he likes flying? He talks about joining the pilot academy in the begining
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>>64532422
>"newfag doesn't get epin /tv/ meems" flick
>A Real Hero starts playing
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>>64534145
What I don't understand is that Obi-wan and Yoda were on Coruscant together and Anakin was just sitting on the volcano planet by himself waiting for someone to come pick him up

So why didn't Yoda and Obi-wan double-team Sheev and fuck him up completely, then go together to deal with Anakin?

Aren't these two meant to be the wisest Jedis ever or something? And neither of them ever think "hey we might have an advantage if we both attack together"?
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>>64525738
what show is this?
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>>64534330
TCW
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>>64531331
they just use red because the crystals are synthetic

don't got access to crystal caves, better make your own
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>>64534274
I think time was of the essence towards the end of the film, so they decided splitting up would be better than killing Sheev and leaving Anakin to possibly take his place, or killing Anakin and letting Sheev win anyway and just take on a new apprentice
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>>64523293
Red lightsabers are for bad guys and purple light sabers are for niggers.
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>>64534570
>purple light sabers for black people
>purple drank
it's like poetry
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>>64534646
they rhyme
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>>64534272
>A Real Hero
>not Real Human Bean
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>>64524249
Actually, that's fucking brilliant, since if you'd notice like this Anon did: >>64532777

Then you'd see that Mace Windu actually did embody certain traits that the Sith did.

It's basically all a coincidence that things turned out this way since SLJ just wanted a purple lightsaber, but his character ended up being really unique in that despite being a Jedi, certain aspects of his character are not unlike the Sith. His fighting style is even vaapad, which is an aggressive style favored by Dark Side users. It's pretty interesting actually.
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>>64523293
>Is it blue lightsabers for padawans, and green lightsabers for jedi masters?

It changes based on the color of your soul
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>>64534925
Also if you'd noticed, he's like one of the angriest Jedi throughout the PT, to the point where you get the feeling that he's constantly restraining his anger. Dude's just REALLY good at controlling his emotions. He's basically an emotional Jedi who, unlike the Sith, is able to keep his emotions in check and use his anger in a more positive manner. He's basically the closest you could be to a Sith while still remaining a Jedi.
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There have been heaps of reasons across the various canons.
In most of the Old Republic stuff (thousands of years ago), green is for those who primarily value wisdom, blue is for those who primarily study combat, and yellow was for those who strive to find a balance - jack-of-all-trades, master of none. As far as the bullshit with cyan, viridian, orange and all that crap, I've always just considered them different shades of those three colours - the way you can have dozens of green emeralds of different colours being the same as different lightsaber crystals, if that makes sense.

In the Republic years (up to and including the prequels), Jedi would get generally build their crystals in the caves of Ilum, where only green and blue crystals grew. By this time so many exceptions had been made to the original rules that it was pretty much just personal preference.

After the Galactic Civil War (the OT), Ilum was long-gone, having been destroyed by the Empire. The New Jedi Order would use whatever crystals they could find, resulting in any colour being used - green, blue, purple, yellow, even red.

The Sith have always used red lightsabers because they use synthetic crystals rather than naturally occurring ones.


Obviously there are notable exceptions to all of these explanations. Mace Windu was given a purple crystal after nearly killing and then saving an alien's life. Adi Galia and Plo Koon use a red and a yellow lightsaber, respectively, in the EU, but then both use blue in the films. Dark Jedi (not Sith) frequently use their old lightsabers or even new ones of various colours, not necessarily red.


As far as the real-world explanations go, blue is good and red is bad. Luke gets a green one in RotJ because the blue looked crap against the blue sky, and Mace got a purple one in AotC because Samuel L. Jackson wanted a purple one.
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>>64529220

>worthless fan fiction

As opposed to Kylo "Totally Not Jacen Solo" Ren?

And Rey "Definitely Not Jacen's Sister Jaina" Strongwoman?

The EU is more canon than anything we'll get out of the Disney reboot. All they did was say "lol jk" to years and years of EU content purely so that they had free reign to rip off entire characters, plot lines, and other core concepts for their own purposes without possible contradictions.
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>>64534925

I think its all the more funny considering that all this is just a good catch. Lucas is too much of a hack to think that stuff up.
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Instead of arguing we could just post cool sabers we've designed
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>>64535092
Sad thing is, you're right since he pretty much just gave SLG a purple lightsaber because he asked for one.

Dammit now this is making me sad that Lucas kinda completely wasted that character.
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>>64535084
Would also just add that as far as an appreciation for the films and nothing else goes, there's a good amount of merit to applying the Old Republic logic to the films, as they got it from the films in the first place.
Just forget the yellow lightsabers, and look at the blue as the more lightsaber-oriented, and the green as the more Force-oriented.

Blue: Luke in TESB, Obi-Wan, Mace Windu (closer to blue than green, anyway).
Green: Luke in RotJ, Qui-Gon, Yoda

Seems about right to me.
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>>64535145
>not being edgy
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>>64535084
>In most of the Old Republic stuff (thousands of years ago), green is for those who primarily value wisdom, blue is for those who primarily study combat, and yellow was for those who strive to find a balance - jack-of-all-trades, master of none
Thats literally some video game shit. Like not even putting it down, I loved kotor.

But do you really think the Jedi themselves would codify that shit? They're monks - and it's just a color. They're not crips and bloods, or dumb sports ball fans. The color would either be what's available, or just something of some personal signifigance. To remind them of something to stay focused.
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>>64523835
The lightsaber taking it's color from the kyber crystal or synthetic crystal used is Lucas canon.
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>>64535186
>Just forget the yellow lightsabers, and look at the blue as the more lightsaber-oriented, and the green as the more Force-oriented.
That's still game stuff bro. You're literally trying to make classes for D&D. It's better if the stuff is more open and mysterious than that.
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>>64527005
kek
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>>64534268
Sure I guess I thought it might be beyond the financial limitations of moisture farmers. Maybe it was his equivalent of a car or something.
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>>64535208
As edgy as that one is I still like it
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>>64535309
>not being pure
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>>64525953
>stop being a manchild and grow up
>posting on /tv/
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>>64535208
>>64535145
>>64535309
>>64535339
Plebs
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>>64535210
>>64535249
Well, no. I'm not saying that at all. OP asked what the significance of colour is, and I've given several different significances explored across the canon and non-canon EU.
I don't think there's any significance other than a personal one.
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>>64535383
>asymmetrical
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>>64535145
this with an orange blade was my jam in jedi academy
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>>64535406
>Being Symmetrical
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>>64535249
>i don't know what literally means
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Lightsabers are medieval swords painted with sci-fi to make it totally not fucking ridiculous to have sword battles in the fucking future

that's all that really matters
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>>64531110
Rey never bulls-eyed swamp rats in her T-16, faggot
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>>64535297
Nah that was the landspeeder

But you know, there's that line where he mentions bullseying womprats slightly bigger than 2 metres, so I could see a sort of neighbourhood T-16 watch to protect homes from packs of wild womprats
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>>64535502
>that's all that really matters
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>>64531237
You don't just hire someone for a job simply because they tell you they can do it, you hire them because they have some actual fucking experience to extrapolate their skills.
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>>64535436
Post your pvp build bro
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it's pretty arbitrary due to the EU being canned, 2bhfam.

using the 3d shows are source though,

jedi: shades of blue or green (ahsoka had a lime-green side saber). temple guards also use yellow.
sith: exclusively red, these are created from synthetic materials.
other: pre vizla had a black lightsaber; ahsoka currently uses two white lightsabers; dindu has purple (not sure if it's still canon but basically to represent his mastery of both sides of the force).
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>>64535339
That's a big sabre
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>>64529147
It was easily the best fight in any of the movies, anyone who puts the OT garbage fights above anything in the Prequels is deluded as fuck.
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>>64524955
>Obi-Wan+Qui-Gon vs Maul
>Classic
Really should be meme tier. Only actually good part about it is Duel of the Fates, which I will still defend as basically the best non-meme thing to come out of the prequels.
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>>64523999
>kid
>with laugh lines
Clone Wars could not into children.
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>>64529111

Yeah I thought wookiee and ewoks were the two race he just did not want to be jedis.

Sith ewoks when?
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>>64535688
I think the RotJ fight is the best though I do agree that the RotS fight is not as bad as people claim it is. Yeah it goes on for far longer than it should but it does have actual emotion, unlike what the fags at RLM claim.
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>>64524249
>Mace Windu : Space Dindu

How is this hard to grasp?
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>>64535826
>yfw there are "ewoks war bands" and "ewok handlers" that strap bombs to live ewoks in Empire at War
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>>64524035

I would choose yellow, its like wielding a blade of the sun
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>>64526838

>that one fucking guy who just bullrushes the guy with four lightsabers

>he couldn't stand another moment of being in the prequel series
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