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5>4>7>6>3>Dogshit>1>2
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>>64518312
>prequels at the bottom
KONICHIWA REDDIT-KUN!
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>>64518361
>H-he has a shitty opinion!
>I'll call him reddit!
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I agree 100%.

Anyone who disagrees is a contrarian faggot.
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Naw, it's : 5,4,6,7,1,3,2
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>>64518390
>TFA better than ROTJ
>not contrarian
back 2 ribbit
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>>64518428
OK but why 1 over 3?
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>>64518312
I'd agree except that the scenes where Luke confronts The Emperor and Vader at the end of Jedi is fucking based as shit.

Yeah, the parts with the Ewoks was just dumb, the rehashing of the Death Star was stupid too, and the escape from Jabba's palace was full of dumb things, but that final scene is crystallized greatness.
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>>64518390
contrarians are cool as fuck and not gay at all

I love em. Only reddit hates contrarians
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>>64518390
>TFA above ROTJ
>not contrarian
back to plebbit
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5>6>7>4>---POWERGAP--->1=3>2
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>>64518429
The highs of ROTJ were higher than TFA, but TFA is more entertaining throughout.

I can't get through Endor without wanting to take a nap
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>>64518429
>implying having a movie over another one automatically means it's shit

>>64518458
That confrontation was badass. Jabba's Palace was too. But the Ewoks take up too much film.
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>>64518312
OT (we can argue about that order for another time) > 7 >= 3 > 2 >1
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>>64518456
Fuckin pod racing bro
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2>1>3>6>4>5>>>>POWERGAP>>>7

Deal with it, nerds
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>>64518387
Finding a Redditor is like finding a cuckold. Just call someone Reddit or a cuck, and if they get upset like you are, they've outed themselves as one.
Never fails. Now run along back to Reddit.
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>>64518312
2>3=1>4>6=5 > power gap > 7
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Anyone who puts 7 above 6 and 3 needs to have their head examined
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>>64518528
>>64518539
try harder
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>>64518528
>>64518539
nearly fucking hivemind-thoughts

noice
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>>64518494
>>64518498
This pretty much.
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>>64518510
This.
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>>64518510
>people actually enjoying 3
Come on now.
It was just as shit
The dialogue was absolutely horrendous.
Grievous was a shit villain.

It had two good scenes.
The Darth Plageuis the Wise scene and the Order 66 scene.
The rest of the movie was as bad as the other two.
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Muh darkness!

4 is GOAT followed by 5>6>>>1. The rest are mediocre trash, not even fun as bad movies.
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>>64518361
why are redditors so obsessed with their shitty site that they have to bring it up all the time?
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>>64518546
I just can't watch 2-3.
The way they're filmed is just eye cancer.
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>>64518539
>>64518528
Well the placement of 7 is correct at least
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1. Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
———————————
3. Return of the Jedi
4. Revenge of the Sith
———————————
5. The Force Awakens
6. Attack of the Clones
7. The Phantom Menace

Top 2 are great
Middle 2 are good
Bottom 3 are trash
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>Star Wars

everyone in this thread is a Redditor
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>>64518522
OK you're right.

>>64518534
>upset
I've gotten reddit a billion times already. Why would I be?

>>64518528
>>64518539
The system is fucked.
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>>64518312
Holy shit OP right on the first try, nice
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>>64518629
This is the correct answer
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>>64518312
This is correct. Anyone who says ROTJ is better than TFA needs to watch the movie again. The space battle and Luke vs Vader were great, but the second act was pretty boring and the ewoks deafeting the Empire was the worst part of the OT.
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>>64518649
hi OP
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>>64518528
>>64518539
>>64518629
>>64518660
Have some (You)
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Behold Lucas's genius filmmaking skills.

This is unedited and ripped straight from the movie.

He actually morphs two separate takes of Anakin's face to complete the scene.
Watch his hair.

This is a professional movie and he thinks he can get away with it because we're focusing elsewhere.
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5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 3 > 1 > 2

6 has a lot of fundamental issues, and 7 is more competently assembled I think, but it still has something to say and present thematically. 7 just kind of exists. Everything about it is dull.
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>>64518629
i watched the prequel trilogy yesterday with a friend and i would honestly flip ROTS and TPM

sheev is the only entertaining part of that movie and he has 20 minutes of screen time as emps max
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IV >>>>> VIII > V = VI > whatever
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>>64518684
?
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>>64518670
kill yourself
do it
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>>64518676
try again.
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>>64518688
Are you stupid? Han was a dull non-character in ROTJ, but him and Chewie were both great in TFA. They actually had an character arc.
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>>64518687
Next you'll split focus is shit. Go home, kiddo.
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>>64518767
>Next you'll split focus is shit
wat
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>>64518632
>I've gotten reddit a billion times already
Probably for good reason.
>>>/reddit/
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>>64518740
>I can use photoshop/paint
hi OP
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>>64518687
Jesus Christ is that cringey.
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>>64518312
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>>64518767
Split focus is often shit, but can be used right.

What Lucas did there is always unforgivable
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>>64518687
That's fucking weird. I don't think it's noticeable enough to be a problem, but what the fuck?
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>>64518822
>4 over 5
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>>64518755
Han's (and Leia's) treatment in RotJ is one of those fundamental issues I mentioned. But, again, at least VI creates a thematic capstone that brings the story together to a satisfying (if very uneven) conclusion. What does VII do? It drags out old characters we never needed to see again and pulls them through a series of break-neck action sequences with very little tension fronted by a character that's ten times as much of a "non-character" as Han was in Return of the Jedi.

VII is a fucking mess every step of the way. It has competent production, but that's about it.
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>>64518822
>empire that low
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>>64518687
>implying that isn't a visual representation of Anakin turning to the Darkside

JJ pls go bk to ribbit
Let the men talk
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>>64518755
Han didnt need an arc. hes matured now. hes been through love, torture, and now is a leader with people's lives depending on him. we cant stay scoundrels forever anon
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>>64518687
>>64518767
>>64518802
>>64518840
He morphed because this was the real moment when Anakin went to the dark side. Killing younglings was just a finalization.
George Lucas a genius.
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>>64518847
Out of all of the opinions that's the most correct one though
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>>64518851
>VII is a fucking mess every step of the way.

what's wrong with it?
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>>64518872
>implying that isn't a visual representation of Anakin turning to the Darkside

WHAT THE FUCK?
You can't be serious.
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OP is correct. People like to shit on TFA because it's popular, but it is definitely on par with the OT.
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>7 not at the bottom
We reddit now
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>>64518913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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>>64518914

LE MARY SUE REDDIT TOLD ME XDD
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4 >>>>>> 6 > 5 >>>>> 7 > 1 > 3 > 2
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>>64518914
It was a glib facsimile
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>>64518361
>before 7 came out
>"1-3 are shit shit SHIT thats a giod trick hurr"

>after 7 came out
>"we ALWAYS loved the prequels"

/tv/
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>>64518964
Enough. Whoever started this fucking Mary Sue thing needs to be strangled.
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>>64518930
It's actually 93/90 now for TFA. It'll probably settle around 92 or 91 once more non shilled reviews are in.
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5>3=4>3>> 1>2>>> 7

Objective
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>>64518851
You are comparing the end of a trilogy with the first movie of another trilogy. Your comparison is completely flawed. The only thing this new movie needed to do was establish new characters that are likeable and it did it. Kylo Ren is the most interesting villain Star Wars has ever had. Poe's and Finn's chemistry was perfect. And even Rey who always gets criticised for being a Mary Sue has a likeable personality.
The movie is unoriginal, but it is entertaining, unlike half of ROTJ.
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The sequels suck, HOWEVER, can we put an end to the meme that Revenge of the Sith was the decent one? Only the last lightsaber battle was good, and maybe Windu but that's all it deserves credit for.

>Shit Grevious
>Shit CGI during fucking Dookus battle
>Shit, forced Kasyyyk battle
>Shit NOOOOOOOOOO

I prefer Phantom Menace because the lightsaber duel is actually well-correographed, and even tho it sucked it at least gave us memes.
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>>64519013
5>4=3>6>> 2>1>>> 7

Typo
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>>64519008
Which is still much better than the prequels and ROTJ.
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I will be changing my opinion for the next 5 years or so but after seeing TFA 5 times (die hard fan) I would go 5,4,7,3,6,2,1
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>>64518930
I like VII, but that's a dumb way to argue.
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>>64519045
But it was just dumb fun.
Lucas just didn't gave a shit anymore and that completely flipped the table on the quality of the movie.
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>>64518926
tell that to kanji klub
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>>64518312
Nice one OP. This is about as good of a ranking as it gets.
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>>64518993
I don't know if Paula Smith is still alive
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>>64518986
>>64518964
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4 = 7 > 6 > 5 > > > > 1 > 3 > 2
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>>64518522
Not to be rude but pod racing was just George waving his special effects dick around to compensate for lack of story. At least that's how I saw it.
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>>64519045
ROTS is shit, but at least there wasn't an annoying child character and an even more annoying comic relief character like in TPM or a horribly written, forced romance like in AOTC in it. It is only regarded as "decent" because the two other prequels are much worse.
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>>64518312
5=4>7=6>>>>>2>>>>>1>3
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>>64518993
Trolling aside, Rey is pretty much textbook Mary Sue.

Her only flaw is the prerequisite "Rejecting the call to adventure" that every Hero requires at least once.

Mary Sue just means that she is written like how a fan fiction writer would write a new story with themselves as an insert. It doesn't mean she literally is JJ/Kasdan's author insert, it just means she is written like one.

Consider this
>she meets Han, her hero, and he loves her immediately
>she's just smart as he is and she even teaches him something new
>she understands Chewie
>she flies the Falcon perfectly on the first time
>she defeats the evil guy at his own game, multiple times
>she's Luke's Chosen One

It may be due to the extremely high pace of the movie, but she is definitely a poorly developed character and does fit the fan fiction character mold very well.
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ONLY ACCEPTABLE ANSWER

GOD TIER
>ESB

GREAT TIER
>ANH
>TFA

GOOD TIER
>ROTJ
>ROTS

MEH TIER
>TPM

SHIT TIER
>AOTC
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>>64519131
With Rey, or to be more clear the idiot that started saying it HERE.
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My order (in terms of which I liked most)

1 > 3 > 5 > 6 > 2 > 4 > 7

_Phantom menace_
is the best film or the series. Likable characters, great music, exciting action sequences and colorful and diverse planets.

_Sith_
Second best in the series. Good starting sequence. Good action sequences. Good music. Exciting light saber fight. Emotional moments of loss and betrayal.

_empire_
Best of the originals. The hoth battle, learning about the force through yoda, cloud city.

_jedi_
Good start, good end. Boring middle. Good movie overall.

_clones_
Pretty cool themes. The weird tall species that clones shit. The the bounty hunters. The car chase scene. Overall a cool movie BUT the reason I rank it so low is because it really doesn't stand out in my mind too much.

I also fucking HATE the parts with anakin and padme on naboo with a passion. Just fuck my shit.

_hope_
The original. Fantastic music and world building. Movie is a bit boring with cheesy dialog though. Would be nothing but a forgotten mess without the sequels. Still, I have a soft spot for it.

_awakens_
Pretty much utter garbage and the WORST movie of the 7.

No epic sound track.

Boring action sequences. Where's the duel of fates moment? Or the binary sunset moment? even the fucking space-bar theme was nothing but fucking noise - not like the jazzy classic.

Hurr durr girl power

female master yoda wasn't even a jedi.

whole movie felt rushed. terrible pacing.

no likeable characters except the droid and maybe han.

The villan isn't evil enough, just some whiny kid with daddy issues and inconsistent powers.

Just. Fucking. Trash.

I'll always love starwars 1-6.

Maybe 7 will grow on me in time but for now it's dog vomit.
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>>64519045
>Only the last lightsaber battle was good

maybe if you're a /v/eddit crossposter
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>>64518914
Nothing it's a meme
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>>64519183
>she meets Han, her hero, and he loves her immediately

WHAT THE FUCK .
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>>64519088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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>>64519200
Put TPM in Shit tier and you're golden
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people need to add their age to their rankings
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>>64519008
>It's actually 93/90 now
Funny how opinions spread and are formed independent of the product itself. People loved the film initially, then do nothing but disparage it after reading negative tweets and memes about how similar it is to ANH. The notion that Episode VIII is better is already starting to form, even though it's in pre-production right now. Consensus matters more than quality.
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>>64519200
RotJ is much better than RotS.
It's not as good as the other OT movies, but still leagues better than RotS.
Watch them again. The PT really is atrocious
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>>64519200
Almost perfect, but ROTS should be in meh tier and TPM in shit tier.
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>>64519200
It's pretty much the same as OP's.
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>>64519263
5>4>6>7>1>3>2

33
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>>64519183
>Mary Sue

Please stop using this reddit-tier memeword. It's just embarrassing at this point. Just stop.
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>>64519313
Switch 3 and 1 and this is the most common opinion.
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5 > 6 > 4 > 3 > 7 > 1 > 2
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>>64519346
i wonder why :^)
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>>64519265
TFA is still considered a good movie by almost everyone. No one thinks it's original or "risky", but it's still very fun and entertaining. ANH's plot wasn't original either and everyone loves it.
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>>64519263
5>6>7>4>---POWERGAP--->1=3>2
28
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>>64519361
I agree with this, slthe I think 1 and 2 are equally bad, just in different ways.
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>>64519395
How can they be equally and differently bad at the same time?
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>>64519263
6>5>4>7>=3>2>1

20

im gonna get hate and shit, but i rewatched the unedited vhs of the orgininals, and i think the high highs of ROTJ far outweigh the lowest lows. i like how the first half combined the fun adventure style of the ANH and later had very deep and meaningful scenes and overall it felt the most exciting and engaging.
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>>64519367
(You)
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>GREAT TIER
The Empire Strikes Back

>GOOD TIER
A New Hope
The Force Awakens

>DECENT TIER
Return of the Jedi

>WE'RE NEVER GONNA BEAT TITANIC TIER
Prequel trilogy
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>>64518534
>>64518632
having to reply to someone who calls you a redditor is such a reddit thing to do. this is an anonymous board, there's no need to defend yourself, reddit.
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>The Darth Plageuis the Wise scene

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but all of Anakin's lines are as bad as they usually are and I seem to remember them being in a gross looking CGI opera house type thing, which was just stupid.
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>>64519417
Nice
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>>64518687
you could actually see his eyes change as well, going full on dark side.

BRAVO
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6 > 5 > 1 > 2 > 7 > 4 > 3
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>>64518649
I also agree with OP tbqhwy
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>>64519528
Unsettling
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>>64518312
Finally someone who isn't a retard or blinded by nostalgia.
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2 < 3 < 1 < 6 < 7 < 4 < 5 < clone wars movie
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V > IV > VI > VII > III > I > II
IV and V are good.
VI and VII are okay.
III is bad.
I and II are terrible.
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>>64518312
>being this wrong

Correct answer: 3=6>4>2>Dogshit>5>1>7
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5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 3 > 2 > 1

Yes, this is the normies opinion but its true. I can accept debate over 6 and 7, I think 7 will gain from having its story conclure in 8 and 9. Everything else is non-negociable.
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>>64519589
The people who love TFA are blinded by nostalgia, champ. The references to the original trilogy every five seconds are the biggest reason people like it and overlook all its enormous flaws.
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>>64519589
>people who rank 7 high arent blinded by nostalgia
>7 is 'remember this guys? star wars!" the movie
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>>64519803
I hadn't seen the OT before I saw TFA, and I enjoyed it.

TFA is a great way to get kids into SW because they don't care about any of the previous films.
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>>64519861
There's as much nostalgia bait in the prequel trilogy, with kid Boba Fett and and kid Darth Vader building C3PO
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>>64518312
Reddit as fuck, desu

4>5>7>6>1>3>2
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V>IV>III>VI>VII>II>I
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>>64518687
What? I'm confused. What's going on here.
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>>64519460
found the redditor
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>>64518687
post the fuck up where djangos pistol holster mysteriously pops like an inch up his hip. noticeable as fuck.
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>>64518312
5>4>3
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>>64519803
>>64519861
All of my friends who have never watched or liked any of the originals loved TFA. It's hilarious how delusional you are.
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>>64520178
tell that to kanji klub
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>>64518312
3 was also dogshit stop saying it wasnt
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>>64519176
It's fucking jet engines attached to a carriage racing through canyons with Sand People shooting at you. It's a great idea for what it is, and it helps establish Anikan's powers, but it could've been better if they'd started off with Ani as a teenager instead of an 8yo boy. His ridiculously young age was just too much for me to swallow when he's supposed to be the only human in the galaxy that can do it.
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3=6>2>1>5=4

True rankings. 7 is not star wars. sorry pal.
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The Phantom Menace would be a much better movie if Jar Jar Binks was removed
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>>64518312

>le 5>4>7 meme

hello reddit
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>>64518312
>4
>good
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>>64520609
Teenage Anikin would have deffo made Ep 1 better.

Could lead to some nice bantz between Obi Wan and Anakin.
Because, you know, they become best buds later.
Seeing them have chemistry would make a lot of sense
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>>64519215
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>>64519029
It isn't flawed at all. Sequel or not, VI still has something to offer thematically. VII does not. VII is a very dull and empty spectacle. I was bored by the end.

And, mind you, VII is still a sequel itself.
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>>64518312
Implying TFA > ROTJ
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Why do people hate return of the jedi
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>>64522955
Ewoks
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>>64522955
>Ewoks
>Leia is now Luke's sister which makes the universe a lot smaller for no reason.
>Han and Leia do nothing in the entire movie
>Luke has no actual reason to join the dark side
>Some conversations were shot exactly like the boring shot-reverse shot conversations in the prequels.
>None of the main characters dies

There are many good parts, but it's not as well made as TESB, ANH and TFA.
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>>64523330
You don't "join" the Dark Side. In the OT it's not Team Red Lightsaber the way it's lazily shaped later. You fall to it. He has reason to fall to it because he's impulsive, attached to his friends, and has the temptations all men do when given a lot of power.

I agree on the rest. I still think it's better than TFA and the prequels, though.
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Great-to-good tier

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. Return of the Jedi

Good-to-pretty awful tier

4. Phantom Menace
4a. Revenge of the Sith
5. Attack of the Clones

[power gap]

Star Wars in name only muh nostalgia soulless fanservice tier

The Force Awakens
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thanks OP, there is hope for /tv/

I have to agree.
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Amazing Tier
5
4
Great
6
Good
3
Alright
7
Bad
1
Horrible
2
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>>64522377
seriously. It's weird and retarded that Qui Gon and anakin are butt buddies, but Obi-wan and Anakin share 2 fucking lines. When you watch the OT, Vader clearly cares more about Obi Wan than even his son. Everytime Luke does something impressive or surprising, Vader just mentions Obi-Wan and his training and opinions and shit. The dude clearly lost something important to him. In Ep. III, which is a great movie btw, Anakin hopes Obi-wan remained loyal to chancellor because he doesn't want to have to face him. He knows Obi-wan is the shit, and he's even jealous because he assumes Padme feels the same way.

They should have made Obi-wan and Anakin more like equals and both badass. Anakin is too unlikeable to care about his loss.
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>>64522955
Don't forget.

>worst special addition add-ons.
>Anakin ghost, Jabba palace song, Sarlacc dick beak.
> Jabba's palace is too cartoony and gay
> Death Star II (at least TFA is bigger and different)
> Ewoks
> Endor is boring. Han and Leia don't grow as characters and honestly it takes away from the brilliant character development in ESB

I gotta say though, ROTJ made Luke the most badass character ever. He really transformed, and its believable. Props to Hamill. He's a lot like Obi-Wan is in the prequels. Cool, confident, powerful, but focused and good.
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>>64518629

Good, goooood
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>>64518312
My personal opinion
3>5>4>6=1=2
Haven't seen 7
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>>64518312

Switch 4 with 7 and I agree. 4 is really only hold to a pedestal because it was the very first one that started it all, the actual content isn't that good compared to 7. Plus 7 has better special effects anyway
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but 6 has more Sheev than 7, don't you like Sheev?
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>>64518687
my god george is an actual genius he's literally influencing our minds with subtle film making
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