Aren't Mary Sues supposed to be self-inserts?
Not just characters that have a wide skill set.
For example, the writer Shyamalan portrays in Lady in the Water was a Mary Sue/Gary Stu.
So who is Rey standing in for?
Almost all protagonists are author self-inserts, that's not shameful or unusual. Mary Sues are bad because they're very blatant wish fulfillment made by fanfiction authors.
If you look at The Force Awakens as a fanfiction, and Rey as the newly introduced character who becomes fast friends with all the established characters and is the best at everything to the point where she overshadows everyone else, then yeah she's a Mary Sue.
JJ's wish to be cucked by a badass bitch who's so amazing at everything that she'd never settle for his tiny jew dick and yoda-looking ass.
>Aren't Mary Sues supposed to be self-inserts?
No. This has never been the case. There's often overlap between the two, but self-inserts and Mary Sues aren't the same thing.
A Mary Sue is a fanfiction character who's too perfect for their world. They come into a pre-established world and twist it to be all about them. They don't have to be self-inserts or wish-fulfilment, but desire to self-insert is the main reason they're created in the first place.
In Rey's case it's unlikely that JJ Abrams wanted to be Rey, but he wanted a ridiculously bad-ass protagonist for the audience to insert into.
What would you call Alice from the Resident Evil movies?
She is hyper competent in all fields, better than every character at everything, and effectively invalidates the use of characters from the game that appear in the movie, rendering their worthless and incapable of acting or saving themselves without her direct intervention.
But she isn't a self-insert of the scriptwriter, so it's fine?
Then what is the specific term for this?
Either a new one is invented, or an old one is slightly changed to fit it.
She's literally a Mary Sue in every way EXCEPT being a self-insert, whoop dee fucking do, the stigma of Mary Sue is about much., much more than being a self-insert.
>Mary Sue stories—the adventures of the youngest and smartest ever person to graduate from the academy and ever get a commission at such a tender age. Usually characterized by unprecedented skill in everything from art to zoology, including karate and arm-wrestling. This character can also be found burrowing her way into the good graces/heart/mind of one of the Big Three [Kirk, Spock, and McCoy], if not all three at once. She saves the day by her wit and ability, and, if we are lucky, has the good grace to die at the end, being grieved by the entire ship.
I fucking hope Rey dies at the end of 8.
In Resident Evil: Apocalypse, Alice discovers that she has been genetically altered by exposure to the T-virus. Alice is explained to have adapted to the changes from the T-Virus, merging human characteristics and heightened strength, speed, and agility.
using star trek as an example
seven of nine is perhaps the grand empress of mary sues
holy shit when she shows up everyone turns into idiots who cant wipe their own asses without her
and shes not a self insert at all, in fact shes only there because the writers wanted to sleep with her
The most important aspect of a Mary Sue is not the fact she has wide skill set or is self-insert, but rather that she is liked by everyone for no apparent reasons and that everyone overlooks her negative traits and mistakes.
I have always thought the girl from Golden Compass is a Mary Sue. She is often a complete brat, but nobody ever tells her to fuck off, everybody likes her.
And it's also a rare case where the writer did sleep with his Mary Sue.
And she was willing.
BRAVO BRAGA, THRESHOLD IS A MASTERPIECE, JERI RYANS AN EXCELLENT ACTRESS AND SEVEN A WONDERFUL CHARACTER.
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Anakin hit the autopilot, he didn't know how to fly a spaceship.
On screen, we saw him pressing every button until one set off a missile.
He is still absolutely a SHIT character and badly written but not Mary Sue.
George wanted to control the performance in editing and thought an untrained actor would be easier to control and give more natural responses in performance. George is obviously not a casting director.