Humanizing stormtroopers was one of the few good things in Episode VII.
Obviously they cant make them entirely human (wait a second, does that mean all those hundreds of thousands on death star were killed mercilessly?) so they go with 'brainwashed goons'.
But really, the one stormtrooper dying in the opening battle, those two guys turning aro when Kylo looses it, those two guys chatting about some random stuff when protagonists are sneaking into the base and obviously TR-8R.
One thing i would love the most would be tv-series or even a spinoff movie about stormtrooper squad in outer rim during the OT era that fights against some space pirates or even some opportunistic gang that abuses the rebellion against the mepire as way to opress regular folk. It would both show stormtroopers as human and not make rebellion the bad guys.
>>64433865 Oh boy, i am really glad rebels is considered canon. Up until now if you pointed out that OT stormtroopers are not clones everyone would just go >EU but since disney said the tv shows are canon it really makes this a lot easier.
>>64434481 I really like the i guess coherence would be the correct word of the new EU. I mean old EU was great, but it was still only licensed fanfic at best. If i am understanding it correctly, the new EU is actually considered in one line with movies and actually does serve as official extension of the universe.
>>64434481 >wait a second, does that mean all those hundreds of thousands on death star were killed mercilessly? I'm the anon who recommended the Lost Stars book.
I wont spoil too much in case any lurkers are interested, but basically yes. There was 2 million people on the Death Star, and most didn't even know it was a Battle Station. They thought it was a Military Space Station (which it is) but the whole superweapon thing? It was a secret to most of the people on board.
When Alderaan was destroyed, many panicked. There was a good amount of talk of deserting, people trying to find ways to get off the Death Star. But it was hard. Desertion means death, you had to find the right time and place to gtfo.
Before anybody really had a chance to leave, the X-Wings start swooping in, and against all odds, destroy the Death Star.
Hundreds of thousands, perhaps over a million innocent lives lost, alongside the 8 million(i think) people on Alderaan.
The chapters after this are chilling too. Characters who managed to get off the Death Star trying to make contact, trying to figure out what happened, very chilling stuff.
I love the rare times that the enemies are humanized in Star Wars.
>>64434673 Coherence is a very accurate word for it. And yes, any Canon material released now is approved directly by the Lucasfilm Story Group, and is to be considered on equal footing to the movies, unlike the "Expanded Universe" which was a series of tiers of what is Canon over other things.
>>64434545 There are still Clones in the Empire, but they're rarer, most were discarded.
>be 8 years old >live in Coruscant slums >mommy works at the cantina >daddy is in the army >last time I saw daddy was outside the spaceport before he left to go fight the baddies in the outer rim >he promised me that he'd be back in 6 months and I shouldn't worry and that I need be good and take care of mommy >mommy gave him a kiss and I hugged him extra hard >crying all the way back home because I missed him already >that was 2 years ago >mommy is always standing at the window crying >daddy probably isn't coming home
>>64434993 >fast forward few years >you die of starvation or turn to crime because new republic is the same ineffective bureucratic mess that the old republic was sheev did literally nothing wrong he really didnt, even blowing up alderaan can be justifiable and it was on Tarkin's initiative anyway
>>64435350 This I remember reading about some WW1 British soldier who just couldnt take it anymore and so he killed half of his unit in their sleep just so he could desert undetected.
Finn is that guy, only that he frees the german pow and joins the german army on the way.
I mean sure, i get that the dislikes the First Order's cause and sympathises with the resistance and i understand that having to fight against his former comrades is the only way to do that, but they could handle his character a lot better,
>Be low-class Alderaani >Despise the gentry and it's ilk >Grateful toward tne empire for a feeling of purpose and employment >Alderaan destroyed. >Blame fat pompus royalty for inciting violence and the death of Billions >Stationed in the outer rim >hear of the loss of the death star alongside so many of your comrades >Intense hatred of the rebellion
>>64434884 Hahaha, why would you read Lost Stars? It's literally a young adult romance novel that features a self insert character you would find in fan fiction and is involved in every major event that happened in the movies. I know it's star wars but at least have some standards when reading the books.
Yeah them making Finn "a baby that was taken away and he had no choice" heavily ruins the Stormtroopers. Before they were simple average joes that just did their work. They knew what they were getting into, they knew the risks. Now with every Stormtrooper being potentially innocent it's the Rebels who blow up planets who kill the innocent.
Also it retroacticely makes Imperial Academy from ANH non-canon because fuck it can't have a morally grey main character
>>64436031 I liked Lost Stars. It wasn't great, but the characters were interesting and it was neat seeing the events of the trilogy from a different perspective. It's also always good to further humanize members of the Empire.
>>64434884 >the whole superweapon thing? It was a secret to most of the people on board that's fucking stupid. It literally takes up a massive proportion of the ship and presumably has a hell of a lot of systems devoted to it that most of the crew would get pinged to do stuff on at some point
>>64436548 Not that guy but it does not sound that retarded. Sure officers and engineers would know but i doubt some random stormtrooper who was redeployed there from some shithole of an outpost on even shittier planet was briefed exclusively or had the will to ask too many questions.
He'd be glad for warm meals and a bed to sleep in. If asking too many questions meant even a slight chance of being deployed back you would keep your mind shut.
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