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>skyfall is the pinnacle of bond movies
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>skyfall is the pinnacle of bond movies
>nothing will even come close to being as good
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>>64432380
Noooo

I am a huge fan of Bond and I don't get why this film is so popular. It's basically bad guy masters chaos theory and plans out this whole ridiculous plan to... what exactly... Kill M? It's so ridiculous... So Silva knew Bond would follow that assassin to China, knew he'd speak to that girl and follow her, intentionally got caught, knew he'd end up in that particular cell so could escape with his bullshit hacking skills. I mean, come on, what if Q had just taken a look at his hard drive without plugging his laptop into the network? What if he'd been placed in a cell with a traditional padlock? What if Bond hadn't spoken to that girl?

And then people have the effrontery to say Spectre had a few weak plot points! My God this film was daft

Casino Royale>Spectre>Skyfall>Quantum
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>>64433409
m8 the plot isn't what makes skyfall a good movie
the incredible cinematography, tense action, great acting and sending off M is what makes it a great movie
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>>64433611
Nah m8
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Bond pretended to be dead rather than fall into the hands of the only people who could help him.

Then for some reason hackers hack mI6, somehow causing an explosion and the deaths of several people.

Having retired!?! Bond, despite suffering the biggest wounds in the entire history of the Bond series

Immediately unretires and returns to London. Although he fails every possible test to be reinstated, M decides the only agent who can stop the guy who they failed to stop in the beginning is Bond.

Then we go to China, who Fdso gah frrlmpr blaa huygggni asdf so Bond can RTDYTFYTF YUUYFUF FYUFUYF RFR^&U&^R Komodo Dragon.

Bond is captured on the main villains island, which contains approximately 3 guards.

Bond then counter-captures the Joker I mean hacker and put him in a computer-controlled prison, Then, despite having been hacked before They plug his laptop in to their network and turn it on.

The Joker (I mean hacker) then escapes to everyone's...suprise...
BUT THEN

At the final battle, everyone had the same goal: Kill M. Due to this overwhelming consensus, Bond convinces M that

the smartest thing to do is ditch the entire country's security apparatus in favor of driving up to Scotland with basically no weapons, no backup and deliberately leaving a trail for the bad guy to follow.

At the end, Bond defeated himself by not saving the person he was trying to save (The entire point of the film)

Not protecting M even though he should, and obliging the villain to be entirely successful.
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Scotland looks so fucking comfy in that movie
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>>64432380
Skyfall stinks to arse. You're fucking crazy.
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The story was shit but Bond holing up on his old house and fighting the fag was GOAT
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>>64434007
>64434007
>34007
>007
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TDK + Home Alone = Skyfall
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The only good scene was the helicopter entry with the megaphone array playing boom boom.
I actually would like to to that If i had a choppi.
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>>64434007
007 confirms, Casino Royale - only good bond flick for the past 40 years.
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>>64432380
Casino Royal
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It didn't feel like a bond movie. It felt like The Avengers of Bond Movies. There was so much cringey shit. That stupid fucking hacking scene where he sees the name of his old home in some polymorphic computer code map thing, those stupid E-mail things that M was getting from the bad guy, Q didn't feel like a good Q although he was better in Spectre.

The Daniel Craig Bonds quality is as follows

Casino Royale > Spectre > Skyfall > Quantum of Solace
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Skyfall was really meta/surreal to watch, since it kinda felt like the film is a deconstruction of Bond as a character.

Bardem was essentially a Blond Brosnan. Overly sexual with other characters, a large variety of gadgets that seem impossible to use and he's always ten steps ahead of the enemy. In contrast Craig Bond is stripped down to a gun and a radio being his gadgets and is essentially killed at the start of the film.

Silva has a vendetta for M abandoning him for a flashy new model, and it kinda felt like the audience was being had a go at for so easily moving on from the campy style of Bond films over the last 40 years before Craig took over. But by the end of it Craig has started to become the Bond of old, sauntering into M's office after flirting with Moneypenny, having Q in the shadows to help him however he wants.

Still not sure what the Groundsmen added to the film other than to explain why there were no more guns left in the house and have someone to talk to M while Bond killed everyone.
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Skyfall makes about as much sense as a Nolan blockbuster.

Looked cool though (and i liked the old vs new theme).
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>>64432380
Skyfall and Goldfinger were more of outliers than the norm in the Bond franchise.
They were the only two exceptionally great films and no other ones in the franchise matched them, although a few were not too far behind.
Spectre was pretty much a typical Bond film; one filled with many coincidences that end up working out in Bond's favor JUST in time for him to save the day.
And yes, Casino Royale was really good, but Skyfall was so much better from the song to the settings.
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what the fuck?

skyfall is shit. casino royale is the patrician choice
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>>64434115
The opening chase is a thing of beauty. I fucking hate Skyfall but that sequence is too fucking good.
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>>64432380
What is GRRM doing there?
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>>64433611
All for nought considering the script is utterly retarded.

Mendes shouldn't have been let anywhere near James Bond. A guy whose best movie is about a middle-aged men's fantasies? The worst thing is how self-important it feels, both Skyfall and Spectre. Who gave Mendes the authority to fuck with the formula? M, Q, Felix, Bond, Moneypenny, they were simply played by different actors. If a new guy started playing, he just introduced himself/herself as such and that was that.

Mendes Bond is fucking capeshit tier and not only because the plot is literally stolen from capeshit.
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>>64432380
Casino Royale was much better.
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Best Bond movies are as follows:

-Dr. No
-From Russia with Love
-Goldfinger
-On Her Majesty's Secret Service
-The Living Daylights
-Licence to Kill
-GoldenEye
-Casino Royale
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Skyfall isn't the best. It's the third best of the new ones. Spectre is the best, closely followed by Casino Royale, then Skyfall. Quantum of Shite doesn't even deserve to be counted.
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>>64433409
>I am a huge fan of Bond and I don't get why this film is so popular. It's basically bad guy masters chaos theory and plans out this whole ridiculous plan to... what exactly... Kill M? It's so ridiculous... So Silva knew Bond would follow that assassin to China, knew he'd speak to that girl and follow her, intentionally got caught, knew he'd end up in that particular cell so could escape with his bullshit hacking skills. I mean, come on, what if Q had just taken a look at his hard drive without plugging his laptop into the network? What if he'd been placed in a cell with a traditional padlock? What if Bond hadn't spoken to that girl?

Brits in charge of writing.
Watch the series Sherlock, it's worse.
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>>64433697

Bond and M ditched everyone else because they didn't want any more collateral damage. Innocent people were dying purely because of Silva's grudge against M. She outright says that there's enough blood on her hands.

The showdown was inevitable so they would rather do it away from people who weren't directly involved. It was more of a honorable last stand and M was okay with dying.
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>>64432380
The cinematography is one of the best I've seen. Impeccable production values. Too bad the film is shyte
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Casino Royale is the only good craig bond flick. Goldeneye is the only good Brosnan bond flick, From Russia With Love is the only good Connery bond flick.

Every other bond movie is trash.
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Skyfall fucking sucked. Spectre fucking sucked. Quantum of Solace fucking sucked. Casino Royale was very good.
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>>64436522
THICK
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>>64432380
Dude you fucking child. You need to kill yourself.
As someone who has actually watched the Bond movies, and is of an appropriate age to be frequenting this site at this point in history, the greatest Bond Film Ever Made is Casino Royale.
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>>64436522
Ladies and gentlemen, a man with taste.
>inb4>ladies
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>>64436189
Everyone told me to watch Sherlock, so I did. I watched the first season. Beginning was alright, most things made some sort of sense. Then shit started getting really weird. Had some good points, but still weird to me. Then that one season premiere where he explained off his suicide with literally the most convoluted shit I've ever seen this side of a BBC show, but without the excuse that it's some kids sci fi show like Doctor Who. I couldn't watch past that. I've never had to do that, but it was just so...bad.
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>>64436850
LADIEEEEEES
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>>64437095
Yeah how did he survive that

fucking Cumberbatch annoying nerd
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>>64432380
Casino Royale (2006) was easily the best Bond film.

Excellent scene selection, excellent fight scenes, good plot, great villian, good twist. It didn't rely on the usual cadre of jokes and gadgets, was less cheesy than the old Bonds while not being boring, actual love interest instead of the throwaway film bimbo.
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/tv/ only like Casino Royale because of Eva Green who is their slutfu
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>>64438010
I really like Quantum for the locations and Mathys, but apparently that's buttfucking heresy around here.
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>>64432380
Except nothing making any sense whatsoever

Nice scenes shit story
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>>64433673
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>>64432380
that's not casino royale
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>>64436159
Why does QoS get so much hate?
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Let's be reasonable; they're all decent flicks that do something that the others don't. You can consider some to be best or worst, but in the end they're all just small changes on the same canvas.
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>>64432380
>we've been hacked
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The 'so progressive' scene where he plays gay with the villain was pretty pitiful when you compare it with the terse homoeroticism between Bond and Red Grant in From Russia with Love.
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>craig
>bond
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>>64438248

it made bond a side character.

I don't even remember the plot of QoS, and I remember the plots of every brosnan-era bond movie despite only watching die another day once since the launch.

it was just boring, so little of it was interesting.
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>Casino Royale with the cinematography of Skyfall

Would have been neat.
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>>64434796
seriously, what the hell?!?!

And I thought that was the only sane thing /tv/ ever agreed upon
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>>64432380
>not picking casino royale over this meme garbage
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