I'm going to Bangkok some time in the next year for about a month, just had some questions I hope you all can help with.
>Best place in BKK to train in Muay Thai
Big part of why I'm going, I've been practicing MT for about twelve years, want to go train in the motherland so to speak. So what's a legit, well-equipped gym/school that caters/is reasonably accommodating to farang?
>Where dem beaches with the sheer limestone poking out of the water
Anywhere near BKK? I plan on traveling around a bit, and I really want to see the more beautiful side of Thai scenery. Not just beaches, anything you guys can recommend. For that matter
>"Must see" in general
I'm gonna spend around three weeks in BKK, a week or two in Phuket, and I'll be making a stop to do the Full Moon Party just to say I did it, what do I gotta do while I'm there?
I'm /fit/, 5'11, white, with blue eyes. I've been told this means I'll have to pretty much try to not get laid. Any advice for picking up non-pros? Red flags? Thanks.
>I've been told this means I'll have to pretty much try to not get laid. Any advice for picking up non-pros? Red flags? Thanks.
Uh, well Prostitutes are easy obviously.
Locals, very hard in the tourist area's, somewhat easier in rural area's, because they dont speak English and most of the time aren't interested.
The prostitutes are your best bet unless you want to try the online shit. The worthwhile girls are setup by their families. Hookers are cheap anyways (if you're a pretty white boy they'll try to take you to isaan don't do it bro). Careful getting a motorbike if you don't have much experience because the roads are crazy (I'm currently in pattaya bedridden due to broken leg and wrist because a truck hit me). Three weeks seems a bit much for bangkok. I suppose if you have a fetish for concrete & lunacy you'll like it. The public transport is a bit shit there.
Also don't be a pussy about the street food. It's cheap as fuck and better tasting than most resturants. A lot of them will only have chopsticks so make sure you know how to use them. Lots of forks and spoons as well but they use the fork to scoop food into the spoon. Not sure where you're from but we only use forks for rice and shit but this way is better when you get use to it.
You can take a bus from Bangkok for, like ten bucks round trip, and go to Pattaya (2hrs each way), or twenty bucks round trip to go to Koh Chang (5hrs ea). It's very easy. The bus station I've always used is the one by the Ekkamai skytrain stop, but there are a few others, including one at the new airport.
Definitely go to Pattaya for New Year's Eve. The beach fireworks are awesome. All the major hotels have their own displays along the whole waterfront, plus all the Thais and tourists firing off their own from the beach.
If they're tall, have really deep voices, and have adam's apples, don't worry that's just typical of Thai women you're good to go.
You pretty much pick them up like you would anybody. Thai chicks, in general, seem to be cool with casual sex. Maybe it's the whole Bhuddha thing and why they don't mind being whores. The standard compliments and shit work. Doesn't take too much because of a lot if Thai dudes are "dicks" so they aren't used to hearing that shit. If you can speak basic Thai, like Hello, beautiful and simple things like that. It pays dividends. Never mention money. Even if not a hooker, one of two things will happen. She'll take it or be offended. You might find yourself even fucking a hooker for free. Known st ot unbeknownst to you.
What's the deal with protection? I hear Thai girls really dig being creampied. (likely because being knocked up by farang = golden ticket)
What's stuff they're into/not into compared to USA/CA/EU women?
Watch a lot of porn, huh? "Good girls", and even good hookers aren't letting a bunch of random dudes fuck them raw. For the bar/massage girl they'd be dismissed if they test positive for anything. The exception is they seem perfectly okay with letting their boyfriend hit it raw.
It seems Asian chicks, in general, are really into rimming. Not sure what that's about. Maybe it reminds them of their crap food. Don't believe the porn to think that all, or even most, are into anal. Outside of that they are pretty much like girsl everywhere, which measn they are difference. If you are boyfriend status they all seem to like positions where they can see you versus doggy/reverse cowgirl/spooning. But that can be said with a lot of females in general. Though doggy can still be ranked highly, just not the only or "finisher" position.
One thing is, that a lot can be persuaded to do whatever you like, because they are real big man pleasers/caterers. WHy so many whoremongers,a t the end of the day, pay more overall to go there, and many people end up with wives. As much as people try to say Thai chicks try to marry foreigners, alot of foreigners specifically try to marry Thai chicks. There are whole websites dedicated to it
I am aware of this, and this is one aspect of Thai culture I won't be taking part in. (Ate ants out of necessity before, but they're a lot less revolting than beetles/roaches... and they're actually kind of yummy)
Is this exactly what it sounds like?
Giving? Receiving? Both?
Another thing is they seem real adept at riding. I attribute that to the long periods they spend in the "Thai squat" as I call it. Pic related
Is this exactly what it sounds like?
Yes. Doesn't take as long as you thing. I got one chick there after 5 times of fucking. One after two. One after 2 or 3. And wanted to be on the status after one, but I didn't trust that shit. There was another one after two, but I was fucking one of her friends and she made me choose. I was trying to pull threesome, which the one I cut was down for, but the other was all in her feels.
This is now my fetish.
So you seem to have some experience here, how do you actually go about getting a Thai woman into bed? What game works? What do they look for in men?
Girls only do it in countries with squat toilets. They do it in Russia as well. If you don't build those muscles up as a kid its a really uncomfortable position, but if you do its almost as pleasant as sitting.
If you want to meet local girls in bkk just sign up to Thaifriendly. As long as you're not a total creep or an old man you'll have a lot of them interested in you.
Also, get the Line app for your phone because everyone here uses it.
I was at Pantip Plaza looking for some PC components in one of the shops. A spot on one of the walls (sheetrock) started moving, a hole opened up, and roaches started POURING out. The people running the shop were just like "meh, it's Thailand, this is normal."
On my first night in bangkok I ended up in a higher end hotel and the instant I turned on the lights a huge roach darted away. In kanchanaburi there's a lot of roaches outside at night that you have to step around. I've been in pattaya for awhile and haven't had any problems suprisingly besides a couple outside at night but they might of been beetles.
This. If you don't like hookers it's not worth it in my opinion once you understand how the ones that want farang cock tick. The good ones go to thai men via families. At least try a bar girl long time.
>how they tick
Which is to say even the mom hookers that fuck with farangs are still ultimately after a husband/boyfriend that will take care of her. But it was my impression that this guy is looking for a free fuck so their mentality be damned, I don't see what's wrong with the smash and dash. The good girls that would take months to give it up wouldn't be what the OP was after anyway.
As far as the roaches, look up American Cockroach on Wikipedia. It has nothing to do with cleanliness, they just thrive in that environment. You see the same thing in the south east of the USA if you live in a wooded area. Especially after it rains.
The question wasn't about cleanliness, but as long as you brought it up, Thailand is fucking disgusting.
Normally I rather like seafood, but if you look in the big fishtanks at seafood restaurants anywhere you happen to be in Thailand, the fish are half-dead, covered with fungus, are visibly infested with parasites hanging off their gills, and so on. These are the "high end" restaurants that are trying to sell their meals to toursts, and that think these fish are actually visually appealing as meals.
The same goes with pretty much anything there. Basic sanitation is nonexistent, whether it's sewer odor everywhere in the city, undrinkable water, laundry detergent that has heavy perfumes in it to cover up the odor of raw sewage that your "clean" clothes would otherwise smell like, or whatever.
>That feel when I'm from Florida
So... are they more or less common than in Florida?
Also, and this is kind of the foundation of the whole damn trip: with an American passport can I just book a flight and show up or do I need to apply for a tourist visa?
Also how far in advance should I book a flight, and what are best places to shop for tickets?
Thanks again gentlemen, sorry for being a nub
If your phone is unlocked and you have a GSM phone you just pop in a Sim card. As stated, people communicate more through messaging apps like Line, WhatsApp and Viber so a decent phone is a plus. Also the messaging apps come in handy
American here living in Thailand. I just booked a one way flight and was let in without question. I even put that I was a student with barely any money on the arrival ticket. Just look up a random hostel/hotel to write on the ticket they give you on the plane. You get 30 days and if you want to stay longer you'll have to do a visa run which is stressful as fuck.
This. Just go to 7/11 and ask for a dtac sim. They keep them behind the counter. I had a hard time finding a burner phone because nobody knows the names of shops and give awful directions.
My father has a condo in Florida, and I've been there and in other houses down there pretty often.
I can say that Florida is practically cockroach-free compared to Thailand.
>can I just book a flight and show up or do I need to apply for a tourist visa?
Depends on how long you want to stay. 30 days is no problem on a visa-free stay (but theoretically you're required to have an outbound ticket). If you want to stay longer, get a tourist visa; it will save you time, money, and worry as compared to doing "visa runs" every two weeks after your initial 30-day entry. (Because on land-border crossings, they only give you 15 days, and it's at their discretion whether they let you in at all or not.)
>I had a hard time finding a burner phone
Just go to Pantip Plaza. The place is filled with used/refurbed cellphones and any other crappy electronics you might want. Be sure to try it before you pay for it, because it might not work and they generally won't take it back.
>I'm /fit/, 5'11, white, with blue eyes. I've been told this means I'll have to pretty much try to not get laid
Are you retarded? Bangkok is one of the most popular tourist cities on the planet; they're not going to fuck you just because you're white you stupid shit. There are tens of thousands of taller, hotter, more fit tourists going to the same bars and clubs that you are. Yes, you have to try.
Also it is way easier to fuck drunk european or aussie sluts than it is to fuck thai girls, assuming you're attractive. But since you didn't mention anything about your attractiveness and only mentioned your height and race there's a good chance you're ugly, so goodluck with that.
>theoretically you're required to have an outbound ticket
Triple posting because this is fucking retarded. Depending on the airline and what airport you fly out of, it's very possible for them to stop you from boarding if you don't have an outbound flight. I've heard of and seen it happen; it's not uncommon and it's a very stupid thing to risk.
They'll let you do a visa run at least once or twice, but they have cracked down on people staying for months without paying for a tourist visa. Really, the cost of the visa is going to be less than doing border crossings every two weeks and having to wonder if they'll let you back in anyway.
Ask the Thai embassy what the tourist visa allows. I think it's either 60 or 90 and can be extended.
>they're not going to fuck you just because you're white you stupid shit.
Of course they are. Don't be a dumbass.
Nonsense. Yeah, the airline might give a fuck, but I've never yet seen one even ask. If they do, you can explain that you are going to Vietnam from there. Thailand is a tourist hub for all of SEA, not just for Bangkok.
Also, you're bitching way too much. Drink a beer, pop some pills. In fact, pop lots of pills. Take the whole fucking bottle.
I was gonna go the fake ticket route but found I can book a flight out of Thailand for ~$25 bucks, and even get half of it back eventually if I apply to get the airport tax back if I don't show.
I was prevented from boarding a one-way from the US (Detroit) to South Africa by the airline once. Frantically bought a mostly refundable ticket on the airport wifi (think I lost $100 at worst on the transaction).
IME, it plays into the way Thais ride dick more, because they just sit like this in general, not just to take a shit. Japanese have been to o modernized. As have most Middle Eastern. My Asian sexual experience is Thai, Chinese, Japanese and ME. This is probably true for the other SEA countries as well. The Thai chciks have this bounce when they ride you, versus the grind, which feels, for lack of the better word, like they are fucking you. Like doing doggy or legs up, but reversed and they are doing the pounding. w w w dot face book dot com slash video.php?v=1046884268670533
How do I go about handling money/acquiring baht? Should I bring any American dollars? What kind of currency should I have on me? What should I not have? How likely is getting pickpocketed? General advice here would be much appreciated.
I'll definitely be doing this. Thank you.
So if you pick up/bar fine a girl how does it work? Do you just hop a tuk tuk back to your hotel and wear 'em out? Are most hotels keen on letting you have "guests" or do the higher star ones take exception? How much can one expect to pay for a "tour guide/translator" for a week of her time?
Nah that's fucking ridiculous. You see them running around on the streets but that's about it. I stayed in what is possibly some of the worst hostels in Asia and didn't see any roaches about in the rooms.
There are currency exchanges everywhere, or you can do it at your bank before you go, or whatever.
If you exchange in Thailand, only take new $100 bills. The exchanges charge extra for non-$100 bills. Not joking. And there are several entire series of older $100's that are not accepted because of counterfeiting concerns (probably imaginary, but that doesn't help you when you're rejected at the exchange).
Sorry, wrong answer. Roaches are everywhere in hotels. In fact, I would go so far as to say that NOT seeing roaches is a danger sign, because they may have used illegal and very toxic-to-humans pesticides to kill them if you don't see any roaming around.
If you remember the news a few years ago, there was a hotel in Chiang Mai that had many guests die over a period of several months, and covered it up for a long time with the help of the local police. Some of the theories were that they used phosphorus based pesticides to kill the bugs. No way to tell who was right on that, the evidence simply evaporates.
>So if you pick up/bar fine a girl how does it work? Do you just hop a tuk tuk back to your hotel and wear 'em out? Are most hotels keen on letting you have "guests"
You go to the whorehouse, watch the girls for a while, pick one you like, and pay the whorehouse to let her go with you.
Don't take tuk-tuks, they are tourist-trap vehicles, and the operators often will try to scam you and/or take you for a ride to some out-of-the-way shop that gives them a commission for sales. It's just not worth the hassle.
I've never seen a hotel that cared, although most charge you extra for the "guest".
No idea about how much they cost. Why would you want the same whore for a week?
I'd say it depends. If you are close to the water/woods then yes. If you're smack dab in the middle of Bangkok in a nicer place. Especially above the first few floors, then no. Thing is a lot of people, especially when traveling solo/stag trips, slum it up when in Thailand.
don't end up like this guy
He thought she's a woman, but when he found out that he had been fooled and that she in fact is a man,
>She was discovered half-naked in a bathroom with marks of strangulation on her neck
Where can I get tickets for a fair price? I'd like to get round trip from New York to Bangkok for around $1500, is that possible? How far out in advance should I buy tickets; is three months a good idea?
tickets are cheaper in the down season which is summer time in the US
I can get tickets from $1200-$1300 Roundtrip from Atlanta-Bangkok(30 days) anytime from the end of may to july
High season is a bitch if you are looking to save some dosh don't go during highseason
What happens in the Philippines doesn't stay in the Phillipines. You can't even kill a ladyboy hooker these days, and get a way with it. What's the world coming to. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799082/Marine-suspect-Philippine-killing-tests-US-ties.html
>Any advice for picking up non-pros?
Make a nice profile on Thaifriendly (most people on there are weirdos so if you're young white and good looking and behave like a nice guy you'll already be top 99%) + try to move the convos to Line quickly
Best ways to avoid whores and gold-diggers is to find girls that are educated and have a serious job, or serious students, which shouldn't be too hard. TF has an Education filter. Girls born in BKK tend to be more fun/interesting than country girls. You usually can tell what kind of girls they are from the way they write or dress.
Depends, at this point I'm looking for more serious relationships with quality girls and I enjoy taking my time to know them, but if I'm looking to pump and dump it can go really fast, I try to sexualize the convo quickly and judging on how they respond, get straightforward and tell them I only want nothing serious and see if they're interested to hang out that night and then go for a movie/dinner at my place or hers. Dirty pics are helpful, they love white cocks and will always comment on how big yours is. Some won't even wanna bother with a quick date and just wanna fuck as soon as you/they enter the room. It's very easy.
>Where dem beaches with the sheer limestone poking out of the water
I've heard they are shit in Thailand, there is barely any of them. Go to Halong Bay in Vietnam if you want to a better version of them, well worth the visit staying on a boat over night if you ever visit Vietnam
>Of course they are. Don't be a dumbass.
are you pretending like there aren't a million hotter white men walking around that country that thai whores would rather fuck? you're dumb as fuck bro. every thai club is full of ripped aussies and chavs trying to get their dicks wet, you have to play the game just like everyone else.
m8 if you're not banging worthless prostitutes, most of the girls in bangkok clubs are middle class and are looking to bang a hot hunk. they know you're only going to be there for a week or whatever, and the only girls that think you're gonna spend money on them and take them to america are the ones in rural bumfuck nowhere. you're living in a fucking fantasy land
also thai men don't really care that their women like white men, because the thai men themselves prefer white women anyways (just like pretty much every other race). stop shitposting.
Funny. I mentioned this in the thread about the guy taking ladyboy shopping. There is a big contingent of Thai women with larger bodies (though not large by Western standards) and deeper voices than the guys. The guys tend to me more skinny and feminine. Ladyboys being super sexy but just have a dick. I chock this up to the breeding where women will work all day in the fields then come home and clean and cook while the men sit on their ass all day. Even with the hookers half of them are supporting some sorry ass boyfriend/husband.
This is a pic I took last week of the Moon Bar, a rooftop bar in BKK. A little pricey for beer but you just buy one and enjoy the view
>I'm /fit/, 5'11, white, with blue eyes. I've been told this means I'll have to pretty much try to not get laid. Any advice for picking up non-pros? Red flags? Thanks.
What I did was cruise the real massage shops ( the ones that offer authentic Thai massage no sex) and find a good looking girl. Get a massage like a neck and shoulder and give her a good tip. Most of these girls are poor so that tip goes a long way. I hung outside the massage shop at lunchtime (tons of street food vendors with cheap food) and sure enough she came out. Then strike up a conversation. She didn't speak very good english, but really they understand most what you say. Lets hang out after your work and the rest is history. Took her to dinner and a movie and the wildest sex I had in a long time.
Yes doesn't get windy...was only 61 stories up. About 79 degrees F
Here is a pic of the leaning Buddha. Lots more of this if you visit the Grand Palace.
Personally I thought Nana Plaza was more interesting. Unless you don't like whores.
Okay one more...I don't want to derail this thread.
>Most of these girls are poor so that tip goes a long way
This is stupid as fuck. Most of the girls that work at the massage parlors are middle class; lots of university students get night jobs there to make an easy buck from retarded horny tourists like yourself. You really shouldn't have to pay to pick up chicks in Thailand unless you're ugly.
Anyway the majority of girls I talked to didn't speak English so I doubt they were educated.
On another note....Siam Paragon has the biggest movie screen you will ever see. And fuck 3d there is 5 d
How is their proficiency in English the metric by which to measure their level of education? Plenty of people can't speak second languages; I doubt most Americans can speak the French or Spanish they learned in high school, despite many of them going on to the highest tiers of education possible. I've met plenty of educated Europeans, Chinese, Turkish etc... who have terrible English. You can't become fluent in a language unless you're forced to speak it, and most Thai people never have to use the language at all unless they work with tourists. Even some university educated Thai English teachers can't really speak the language proficiently. Also, Thai people are notorious throughout SEA for having awful English skills, even among poorer and less educated countries.
Are you intentionally making ignorant comments?
In the 2 weeks that i was there, I saw no rats and no bugs. Street level was all food smells that were awesome. Yes there was garbage but that was cleaned up early in AM before 6 AM. I was staying on Suhkamvit near Nana Plaza on soi 8. Lots of food vendors there and when I got up early to have a smoke at 4 am I saw lots of people cleaning up.
>I'm slim/ottermode and into psychedelic music you see.
If you expect Thai women to have some kind of eclectic musical/cultural tastes, you will be very disappointed. I'd love such a creature, but if you expect anything else but cheesy local faire in her interests, you might be sorely disappointed.
PS. Is there a market in SE Asia for long haired george harrison look alikes amongst any particular nationality of travellers?
Yes, customs and immigrations officers love people like you. It gives them an official excuse to go through all your shit and deny you entry. All law enforcement officers need to show that they're doing something, and it's extra nice when dirtbags call attention to themselves intentionally.
I will say this is general good advice for the average tourist going to Pattaya or BKK. Pukey I'd irrelevant as all of the chicks worth talking to (7 or better) or almost exclusively whores.
You can't really generalize with Thai girls. I had shaved my arms and she noticed with a wtf, I put her hand on my chest hair and got a really big smile followed by jumping back on my lap. Then again I bought her ladydrinks so they will do what they think you like.
I'd say Russians are the only hard ones, mainly because they are mobbed by the Russian dudes. Aussies the easiest, then Brits. It's as easy as anywhere else. Chicks on vacation looking to party. The couple that got murdered not to long ago met while in Thailand. You have to have more game than picking up Thai chick. But the general rules of thumb apply, if you have no problem home, you will have no problem there. But the main reason people buy chicks in Thailand is not because they can't pick up chicks otherwise it's because it's so damn easy. Like McDonald's for pussy.
>Thai men are terrible
>Would you like to know more?
Yes. Yes I would, elaborate.
Seriously, I was in BKK for about six months training Muay Thai, met an educated 10/10 cutie at the mall and she was mine within hours. She didn't elaborate but she said young farang men are so much better than Thai men.
I'm curious as to why, how do they fuck up so bad that their own women reject them so thoroughly?
>Mfw I spent six months doing nothing but honing my striking skills and beating up top shelf pussy
>inb4 how in BKK half a year and no knowledge of Thai men (It's because aside from my krus I didn't really say more than five words to one)
What I heard from the cuties I've been dating in SEA, is that the men are cheaters, have no jobs, spend their money and beat them. They prefer farang who worship them for being a 10/10, at least treat them better when going out and what Asian girl all like: mixed babies. Better gift than a Chanel bag haha.
except thai men don't get white women lol
Here's a quote from a song that really sums up the partylife in Bangkok/Thailand
>"Not much between despair and ecstasy"
Just remember that you'll be treated differently (good or bad is irregardless). Usually since these people are so animalistic, it'll work in your favor for being tall, white and built bigger.
Also remember that you're in a foreign country as the visitor. These people seem to reward goofy ignorance, and your innocence is the best tool you have here.
Foreigners are old hat. You're not exotic (inside any major cities at least) and generally nobody is going to pay attention to you unless A). They're trying to sell you shit or B). They're trying to take advantage of you.
All these faggots talking about how they mac on Thai chicks are getting played, pretty much 95% sure of that.
The most important rule of thumb regarding Thailand and the girls there is that if you want an actual good Thai girl you will not find her in Thailand.
Also if you train MT in Thailand you're going to getting ripped off and you're actually better off going to Holland.
top kek you're a manlet and that won't change in Thailand. It's hilarious seeing manlet white boys fly into BKK and watch their gazes drop to the floor when they see Thai dudes that are fitter and taller than them. Hell you'll find a good chunk of the girls are taller than you m8.
reminder: If you aren't 6'2 then you're a manlet and going to a different country won't change that.
I'm 5'9 and I easily tower over grills and even am on par with thai dudes that are like 40 years old. Live in Chiang Mai though so might be different to BKK.
>tfw I will move to America soon and I will be average height
I partied 3 nights in RCA and had no trouble making out with several girls and taking 2 home. There weren't many white people there to be honest and it seemed the demographic were university aged Thai students.
Had 10 nights in BKK so got around a bit. The clubs with prostitutes in them are fun until you realise you're not getting laid until you part with your wallet (Insanity / Spicy are the only ones I remember).
I'm 22 & Aussie. Just go with the flow man. I really recommend the RCA though.
All of the "good" Thai girls I've met outside of Thailand used to be prostitutes that somebody married or they flipped their money, unless they were born abroad. (There are exceptions, like the couple who run the local Thai restaurant, but most Thai chicks who make it out of Thailand do it on their back. The ones who don't have to aren't trying to leave Thailand)
The same way that any trailer trash redneck would push her granny down a flight of stairs if marriage to some oil sheik were on the table. Western men aren't the only clients for hookers. Japs, Russian mafioso and Middle Easterners are also part of the marrying-up marketplace, though western men are probably the lesser of demons.
I have never seen a ladyboy I couldn't tell was a man. Some pass nearly flawlessly, but I can just always 'tell'. I really wonder if a lot of dudes are in willful denial so they can just say 'woops, she looked so feminine I couldn't tell until I had my balls thumpin' against her balls!'
I work in a technical university in Europe, and thus we have a lot of international students. A fairly large contingent of Thais, including women. Most want to go back to Thailand after (at least so they say... maybe if they start dating locals here it changes, I dunno). In my experience so far, every single one, including the women, are intelligent and hard working. I like having them in my classes since they're such consistently good students. I suppose they are cream of the crop though.
Which supports exactly what I'm saying. Thai women, in general, are intelligent and hard working, even the whores. The couple of Thai GFs I had, I was amazed they were self taught English. One of them was very proficient at reading and writing and she learned from being a cashier at a convenience store and matching up what the customer was saying to the products. The men on the other hand....
I don't know how to tell you this "m8" but prostitutes are usually some of the most intelligent women you'll ever meet. Not just in Thailand. Like in Canada escorting is legal, and pretty much any 7 and above college girl with half a brain does it because
>Pay off student loans in half a year, start accruing assets before you're even done in high school
>Slave away at Timmy Ho's and spend the next six to ten years paying off your student loans which hopefully got you a job
Decisions. Listen, our society is getting less and less puritanical, women tend to give it up to at least two guys by the time they're sixteen and that number increases exponentially every year. I guess what I'm saying is these days all women are whores, some are just smart enough to get paid for it.
>because the thai men themselves prefer white women anyways (just like pretty much every other race)
Thai men can't get farang women, and most don't even want to because western women are loud, entitled, and wouldn't take their shit.
And the part about men of all races wanting white women is just bullshit because white women are the most vapid, entitled, vindictive creatures on the planet and they age like fucking milk once they hit 30. The most desirable women are 8 and up Asians, and the rare 9 or 10 black woman. Latinas are fucking great if you can tolerate more or less dating a woman's entire family.
But yeah, nobody wants white women. Asian women are so desirable because of their affection, gratitude, loyalty, and humility. They aren't fucking headaches, and it doesn't hurt that most of them are top tier fucks and amazing cooks. Like here's an anecdote (and a point to follow, I swear)
I have a secret, [spoiler]I'm already a manlet[/spoiler].
Honestly it's sort of funny how prissy tall people get about being uncomfortable around taller people it's such a non issue not sure how it's even a thing.
>Get home from work, stressful, annoying day
>Girl is at the door, greets me with a hug and kiss, takes my coat and tells me to go shower
>Come out of the shower to the divine smell of Tom Kha Gai cooking
>Fuck yeah TKG
>"Dinner will be ready shortly babe, go relax."
>My dog wakes up, realizes I am home, gets excited as shit, like randomly grabs his rope toy and starts swinging it around
>Bro out with my dog whilst playing some GTA5, kicked back on my recliner
>Girl comes over "babe do you have a minute?"
>I nod, place the controller on the table beside me
>Without saying a word she artfully pulls my cock out of my pj pants and gives me one of her 5-star BJs, no quit, no spit
>Swallows my load, puts my cock away, smiles "love you" and goes back to cooking
>Night concludes with dinner, more vidya, cuddling, talking, more sex, and her sleeping on my chest while I read a bit before passing out myself
White women just don't fucking do that. Like, maybe once a year or some shit, but even then they act like the one day they made you feel like you weren't an idiot for being their meal ticket is worthy of song for decades to come. What I just described is actually pretty typical.
So yeah, speaking from experience, Asian/white women are night/day. Like, it's to the point where if things don't work out with my current girl I'd never go back to white women for more than pump and dumps.
I dunno, I'm probably coming off as a misogynist or some shit, but having seen and experienced what I have I just know that western women aren't what I want for a lifetime commitment. Friends? Friends with benefits? Sure. But they're just to high maintenance to give a key.
See, that the thing, pretty much all women want a guy who will take care of them and be nice to them. Asian women are just much more straightforward about it "Well yeah, duh, of course I want a man to provide for me."
In SEA, Thailand at least, marriage is a very direct and simple arrangement; it's the exchange of obedience and fidelity for security. Both parties know what they're getting into. White men are so desired by Thai women because Thai women know how white women are, and that not only will they be provided for but they'll also be genuinely appreciated and treated well.
By contrast, in the west, feminism and progressivism (and both have done a lot of good, please don't get me wrong) basically has women paying lip service to being independent, but still wanting a free ride and to be absolved of any accountability.
Are western women bad people? Absolutely not. Does a smart man marry one? Absolutely not.
I couldn't agree with you more. My friend barely made it out of Okinawa alive. (meaning without a spouse.). He had a chick everyday at chow time he'd run to her house. She'd cook him food while he showered. He fuck her, then she'd give him a ride back to the base. And for the racist he was a nig nog of African descent, though he is American (1st generation) at that. After dating a Thai Chick while working abroad he broke up with his Latin GF, and says if he ever marries a chick she will be Asian.
I have never been catered to like I was catered to by my Thai girlfriends and fuck buddies I've had. One note, they are very jealous. Especially if you cheat on them with another Thai chick. They won't just sit back and "deal with it" like a Filipina will. Thai people have a lot of pride.
That speaks more to the rigid social structure of the country I think. And I can say with certainty that the public higher education system here (Germany) is far better than Thailand's. I have noted that a lot of these students are from Isan and inland central/northern areas though, fwiw...
Aussie slags are probably the easiest on the planet.
>tfw plowing 6'2'' Norwegian girl
Tall girls love the D too. I'm only 5'8'', but boned a few girls over 6'0''.
>The most desirable women are 8 and up Asians
Speak for yourself, yellowfeverfag. I've fucked and dated a few Asians in my time, 'cause hell why not, I'm equal opportunity when it comes to pussy. But I'd never ever marry or reproduce with an Asian woman. I don't even find them that attractive. I can agree with you on some points, but not everyone puts slant pussy on a pedestal.
I'm talking American stats, beaxsue they are easiest to find, or maybe I just know where to look, as this is a debate I've had before.I will extrapolate this to people, though.
Most people marry someone of their own race. Of those who intermarry, black men and Asian women arre the top of both sexes. Big execpiton are Indians which have the highest rates of endogamy, and Indian males or more likely than the females to marry outside of their race (yes Americans, Indians are Asians, Most Arabs are too.).
As far as whites, in America they have the higher numbers but the lowest percentage.
I think the Asian thing has to do more with their catering than their attractiveness. Again use the example of the number of people, regardless of country, that return from Asia, to include Japan/China (not just SEA) with a wife. Withthe spike in Middle Eatern tourism to SEA, plus the influx of Asain whores and Asian migrant workers, many of the GCC countries are now offering incentives for thier men to marry Muslims/Arabs and are putting caps on immigration. The men are taking more of a liking to the Asian women. pic related
>rigid social strcutre
Have you ever been to Thailand? Maybe among the elites. Plenty of people in Isan and elsewhere away from the cities never even finish school. Instead optioning to work on some rubber farm, or restaurant, or on their backs, to support their family.
>Tall girls love the D too. I'm only 5'8'', but boned a few girls over 6'0
At 5"6', almost 5'7, I've climbed some trees as well.One tall chick wanted to date me long term.
Depends on how far along you are in life. People who haven't accomplished much tend to put a lot of importance on worthless traits like height, race, nationality, accent, dick size etc... They make the traits they do have seem like the most important thing in the world, and when that's taken away from them they just collapse. It's fucking sad really; I had a buddy in college that used to get absolutely livid whenever he saw an attractive girl with a short skinny guy or a black dude. Him and another friend of mine went to the Netherlands to study and said his insecurity was downright depressing, since everyone there is either around his height or taller. He was an odd dude; I wonder if they have a name for people like that.
It's a SEA thing. Thai squat is jsut waht i call it, as I've said. But I've fucked Chinese, and Japanese, and Arabs, and they don't have it like the SEA chicks do. It comes from more than just squatting over toilets, and the fact That SEA chick sit like this for an extend period of time from a young age. I imagine you could find it with some Chinese, but not eh more mobile ones, I've been with.. You're getting tied up in semantics, though. that's like saying French fries are only in France, Hamburgers in Hamburger. I attribute the name because they are the best/most common prevalent with it(acknowledging that other SEA places are equal if not better, but their interactions with outsiders are less)
Not trying is actually a really good way to get laid, anywhere. Seriously my number one approach for getting women is to show up at a bar/club/event with bros and not give a shit or force anything.
By the by, can you still do "visa runs?" As in, hop over the border at Myanmar and back and get a 15 day extension? I heard somewhere they were putting a stop to that, don't remember if it was credible.
Not sure, but I'd definitely do it to Laos or Cambodia before Burma, if you like your life. I think it may just be Burma, where you can't do visa runs anymore anyway, but I may be wrong.
>I have never seen a ladyboy I couldn't tell was a man.
Some of the high-end shows have ones who can actually pass for female, but most of the ones you see in Nana and on Sukhumvit don't even try to pass. There's one massage parlor on the north side of Sukhumvit, somewhere between Soi 3 and Soi 7, where they're always hanging around in front, and they all look horrible -- skinnymuscled arms, tattoos, bad makeup, five-oclock shadow, and suspicious bulges.
I went into one of the wrong bars in Nana one time, and it was immediately noticeable. I don't think any of them were even close to being able to pass for female, even ignoring the suspicious bulges in their bikinis. Needless to say, I did a 360 and walked right out of there. nopenopenopenope.gif
>By the by, can you still do "visa runs?"
Yes, at least for a while. They supposedly eventually reject you. I've never stayed long enough to do one, just going by what I've read on Thaivisa and here.
I don't think there are any that don't have hookers in them. There are plenty of freelancers who go to clubs to try to get guys to pick them up.
There are three main prostitution zones, though -- Soi Nana, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong. Patpong is the really sleazy one with the "pussy razor blades" shows. Nana has one big three-story complex with a few dozen different brothels/go-go bars in it, and there are related businesses all over the area around it. Soi Cowboy is a short segment of street with go-go bars on both sides.
If you stay away from those three areas, there are far fewer prostitutes, but I'm sure there are plenty of small places catering mostly to Thais.
BTW, some brothels are exclusively for certain groups. I wanted to look in one that was for Japanese, but they wouldn't even let me in the door because my gaijin presence would contaminate the purity of experience for the Nipponese businessmen. I don't know if the ones for the Arabs would have let me in or not.
For example, this is supposedly a "diary" by some chick who is a freelance prostitute in Bangkok:
aitch tee tee pee sawaddee-siam dot blogspot dot com slash 2009 slash 03 slash bangkok-escort-thai-girls-diary-part-7.html
I don't know if this particular blog site is a copy of hers or if it was the original. Anyway, if you skim it, she writes about several different high-end clubs she has gone to to find customers.
System won't let me post the link because it thinks blogspot is spam. :-/
That article anecdotally sums everything I've said in this thread and other Thai threads in the past.
1. Most Thai chicks aren't forced into prostitution. Many had or have regular jobs, but the money they make in prostitution is so much better than they'd make in any other occupation. >>932628 <mentions Thai minimum wage is around $200/month. The girl in the article made that in a few nights.
2. How they do look at relationships kind of business attractions (thinking she was lucky and may have found someone to take care of her), but you definitively get your money's worth with them. They will still have the romance, but the finance comes first.
3. How the hookers are just regular people at the end of the day. they don't come with the mental baggage you'd get hooking up with an American hooker.
4. They are hardworking/studious/intelligent.
Yeah, there was a sociology study done a while ago that said that the biggest predictor of whether an Isaan girl would become a prostitute was whether her family had a televsion set. Reason being, she would see all the shows about the luxurious lifestyles of foreigners and Bangkokians, and look at her future of staring at the asshole of a water buffalo while it drags a plow around and then going home to cook and get beaten by her drunken Thai husband, and so then she'd run away to make money on her back in the big city, since that's about all that an illiterate peasant girl can do that will earn her more than eating money.
>>>932628 → mentions Thai minimum wage is around $200/month.
Was my post. That's not the minimum wage, that's a typical wage. There was an article just last week about the Thai fishing industry and why they enslave illegal immigrants from Burma; in it, the writer mentioned $200/mo as how much a non-enslaved Thai deckhand on a fishing boat typically made.
The figure was also mentioned prominently during Yingluck's initial election campaign (back when Thailand had elections and was a democracy . . . remember those days? oh yeah that was just a couple of years ago, and her election was only four or five years ago) because one of her campaign promises was a regulated minimum wage of $350/mo -- but only within urban centers such as Bangkok (or maybe only Bangkok).
Funny I know a woman from Isan who is a prostitute. 37 years old. Hard life. Was jailed alongside her mother when she was in 8th grade because her mom was bootlegging. Dropped out of school to take care of her mother and "son" in the 10th grade (he actually belonged to her older sister who didn't want him and wouldn't take care of him). One of her first jobs outside of Isan was in her early/mid twenties working at a resort in Phuket. She actually waited on the King of Morrocco. She mentioned how one of the Kings bodyguard took a liking to her and wanted to hook up, but being fresh out he jungle she was scared of all farangs. (she mentioned if she seen him today she'd be like "c'mon"). FF she's a cook in Bangkok, her first trick comes when a customer really likes a meal and asked to meet who cooked it. Her friend who is a waitress brings her to meet th guy and he is enamored. She can't speak much English at this point. HEr freind asks how much she wants to see her. They make arrangements for after work. I'm not even sure what it was at first, but she ended up getting paid $200USD for her first trick. A lot better money than what she was making. FF again, she's tricking aborad, has about a year overstay visa and gets deported. She is back in Isan working on a rubber farm. Within a month she had changed her name, got a new passport, and was back abroad in the same country. When she first got back she looked kind of rough as well. Bad skin, cuts and scratches on hand and face.
His son not so much. Especially after he just set aside his very popular queen, who personally did no wrong (family members profited from Royal name) and has long suffered with her "butterfly" prince.
How much longer do you think the King has?
Here is quick overview of the year. The only thing I really see missing was the kerfufffle after a couple went to Thailand to have surrogates but then refused one becasue it was a retard. Causing the military governemnt to outright ban commerical surrocacy. Which was a big booming business in Thailand for foreigners,, mostly from Nouveau middle class/rich Chinese.
i hope your not there when the King dies ...
shit would be terrrible lol
>i pussy'd out of buying a ticket because of this
You shouldn't have. Even with the king there has been turmoil after turmoil coup after coup for years, and the world still turns. Only time tourism took a big hit was with military non-coup and they imposed a curfew for awhile.
pretty sure that's an Oxymoron. I mean there are plenty of gay/effeminate Thais, but as far as ones who whole hog with an operation? I'm sure there are, but hey would appear to be women. Not advertise they are ladyboys. I'd imagine salons would be a good place. That stereotype holds true even in Thailand, but what would a man be doing in a women's salon?
>By the by, can you still do "visa runs?" As in, hop over the border at Myanmar and back and get a 15 day extension? I heard somewhere they were putting a stop to that, don't remember if it was credible.
How to stay in BKK for more than 6 months per year? English isn't my first language so I can't teach there. Do hotels hire farangs easily for easy jobs like night reception, if they only speak English?
Do you have any experience with the ED visa to learn Thai? From what I understand now they're only for 9 months (rather than a year), and can only be renewed twice. So 27 months in total. Is it true you can only go to only 2 hours of class per week?
>faggotwho has never had a relationship with a native Thai, or any other Asian chick
It really is like that with Asian chicks. Don't get me wrong. They rule their home, and are insanely jealous (Thai on the more jealous side) but hey will cater to you like a motherfucker,.
To get hired at any Thai job you're goign to speak pretty good Thai. The farangs that stay there are usually on retirement are work Visas where they have a certain amount of income in Thai banks and have a certain monthly income coming from outside of Thailand. The other option is to marry a Thai chick.
They are really particular about hiring farangs for jobs that Thias can do. You can't even own a business unless it's part Thai owned (and they may eventually take it from you). Some frangs were plying a free gig, only getting payed in beer, someone complained and they got deported for visa violation because they were illegally working at a job a Thai person could be getting paid for.
Took me about a month with two different chicks. Most recently, i know a guy who met a chick late August and proposed early December. I reckon teh situation was effect in September/October and he decided to put a ring on it. He proposed on "Father's Day". The Kings birthday. Anybody that's not middle/upper class is looking for a sponsor.
>The other option is to marry a Thai chick.
I have considered this also, as a last resort and if I find the right one. But does having a marriage visa help you with work permits, if your income comes from outside (such as working online, which is technically illegal on a tourist or ED visa)?
As cheap as Thailand is known, When you get to the nicer/luxury places, it's priced pretty competitively, to keep out the riffraff. Like look up the prices for the hotel on Hangover 2.where they handed over Ken Jeong character.
>You can't even own a business unless it's part Thai owned
US-Thailand Treaty of Amity
Americans actually can own a business under this act
American companies who wish to be covered by the Treaty of Amity should have a minimum of 50% American directors and a minimum of 51% of shares must be held by American citizens.
Under the Treaty, Thailand restricts American investment only in the following fields of business:
Banking involving depository functions
Exploitation of land and natural resources
Owning land; and
Domestic trade in agricultural products.
I'm not sure where they fall but all the bars/clubs/restaurants I've sen owned by farangs are part Thai owned. There is usually a Thai name on the business.
I'm sure this works for the big corporation. Durex has a factory in Thailand. So does Ford. But not sure where the small business fall in with this.
>non whore ladyboy?
No, the Thais really believe that stupid shit about the "third sex". There are ladyboys everywhere who aren't prostitutes.
Find the clubs they go to, I guess. Not sure why you'd want someone who's mentally ill, but then, I guess you are mentally ill too, so much happiness to you and your dickgirl.
Recaptcha: straight eciem
>You can't even own a business unless it's part Thai owned
Not just "part", it has to be MAJORITY-Thai-owned. 51% or more.
>(and they may eventually take it from you).
You should use clear language and simply write "they will eventually steal it from you if the business is at all successful, and if you fight that too hard they may have you murdered."
>US-Thailand Treaty of Amity
>Americans actually can own a business under this act
We're talking about reality, not what some piece of paper says.
Thailand also joined the WTO, part of which says that member nations have to allow foreign ownership of land and other real-estate property. Guess what, Thailand doesn't allow foreigners to own land and restricts even condominium ownership.
>not sure where the small business fall in with this.
The big industries get around it through expensive dodges such as government-sponsored investment programs. The small businesses are the ones that end up getting owned by (and stolen by) the Thais.
The general wisdom of experienced expats in Thailand is not to invest any money in a business that you expect to get back. It WILL get stolen.
>visa runs banned
That article is from May; the below one is from August, and indicates that the military dictator ordered the rules be eased again:
I'm the guy who posted the oxymoron comment. And I agree with what you're saying, but the western ideal of lady boy is a chick with a dick. I was just at a birthday party for a ladyboy back in Oct. Despite not being the only biological male (and farang) in the room, I was the only not ending my sentences with "kaa". All the guys, including the "birthday girl" worked at the same salon. There is not a huge impetus to go under the knife and get fake breasts if you're not selling yourself. Not to say they don't exist. But most non-whores simply dress up like women.
pic related: from birthday party
>You should use clear language and simply write "they will eventually steal it from you if the business is at all successful, and if you fight that too hard they may have you murdered."
Though I did not use "clear language" I can't deny this to have happened. kek. I guess not trying to scare people away. This is where he "solution" goes back to marrying a good one. I've known of people who hae businesses taken from them by their "wives" and also killed by their own bodyguards. I was trying to clean it up without lying. I already scared one person away from traveling to Thailand talking about the politics and royal family, I will say you can do better with a country, red shirt minded girl as wife/partner. bu that's not going to be the first chick you run across.
>That article is from May; the below one is from August, and indicates that the military dictator ordered the rules be eased again:
Yeah May was too long after the military non-coup. With the lost revenue and tourism from that debacle by August they were doing what they could to lure people back.
Anon you quoted reporting.
If you're white, somewhat fit, not autistic, have good hygiene, and there's some genuine chemistry a Thai girl will not only be open to, but be expecting a proposal around the six month mark.
I think this was touched on earlier, but once you're at "boyfriend status" I.E. she's ok with you hitting it raw, it means she'd be ok with having your baby, meaning she's hoping you'll get her the fuck out of Siam.
Prease understand: just by possessing the qualities (hell, just the first quality...) I mentioned you can offer her more than pretty much any man in BKK. Any guy who is at or beyond your level has picked his wife out since they were kids.
Thai women are seriously god tier wives.
>Tfw I knocked her up since my last post
What can I say? She was doing squats on top of me, did that little lip bite thing, and I couldn't help it.
>Mfw that little gasp she made when she felt it covering her cervix
See! I told you about that Thai squat! And contrary to popular belief you don't have to be white. I know plenty of farang dam and Arabs with Thai girlfriends and wives. The most important color is green. Just don't be Indian or African. If you're European or American your race doesn't matter. Though your game may have to be little bit tighter to break through initial walls, depending on the girl. But I know Thai chicks from BKK that pretty much wish they were black. Braided hait, tats, and their FB and Instagram posts are hilarious. Especially for me who knows who they are and how they actually sound so I read it in their voice.
Lol I love teasing my girl by teasing the shit out of her when her accent slips.
Anyway yeah she's been on bc but we decided to start trying and she thought it would be fun to see how long I could hold out. I made it half a month. I'm proud of myself. Pussy too good to quit mayne.
Re: Indians: I wonder why, I have literally gone to Club Electric Blue, seen five of them walk in and share one beer expecting some play. Their well known penchant for beating the shit out of women probably doesn't help either.
>Getting with a girl who has a kid
>Not even once
Must be top shelf pussy on a top shelf girl, anon. Or you could be a schmuck-cuck but seeing as you have to sense to not remarry American (I know that feel bro) I doubt that's the case.
They get refused service in Pattaya, too -- heard that the hookers got tired of going to their room and finding it filled with a dozen guys who expected to pay her a flat 2000 for the whole night -- total for all of them.
People on this board act like blacks have such a hard time traveling and getting laid and are so heavily prejudiced everywhere, but in my travels, Indians are at the bottom of that list.
>I have never seen a ladyboy I couldn't tell was a man. Some pass nearly flawlessly, but I can just always 'tell'.
Me too. The trick is to look at their shoulders. They can have their sex changed, have all the plastic surgeries and make up in the world, but they can't hide their man shoulders.
Men and women have different shoulders.
people are more likely to turn blacks away from legitimate businesses or refuse to help
but you're right, indians suffer in terms of pussy
and why wouldn't they. The men and women alike are hideous
>The men and women alike are hideous
Okay gweilo, sounds like you got scorned by a qt indian girl
It's one of the first images that comes up when you google "indian girl". I mean, are you really going to push this argument; as if there aren't attractive and unattractive Indian women, like every other race on the planet? This is retarded even by 4chan standards
One of the beautiful women I ever seen was a girl in an airport in the Gulf. But though their are attractive Indians the majority or hideous, especially the darker ones and it has nothing to with skin tone they are just generally unattractive. Like you took the worst parts of Africans and Arabs. Contrast that with Ethiopian/Etriean woman, who can be dark, but have seem to embody the best features. And their cuisine and perfumes they like can lead to some odd scents. Indians in the USA or usually pretty good, but the ones you see outside of USA/UK....
It's almost a moot point because Indians are the least likely people to marry outside of their race.
>But though their are attractive Indians the majority or hideous
Right, and I'm assuming you've seen enough of a significant sample size to make the claim that the "majority" are hideous? Ditch the hyperbole, you sound like a retard. I lived in India for two years, the "majority" of people I saw looked average. I saw some gorgeous model-quality girls and I saw some butt-ugly dwarf freaks that look like they got their face smashed in with a hammer.
Not to mention your "Indians in the USA *are* usually pretty good" comment is fucking ridiculous, since literally all of them are first or second generation and marry within their race (as you mentioned), meaning the average should be NO DIFFERENT than India. So either you think only the attractive ones immigrate (in which case you're a dipshit), or you're comparing the middle/upper class to the poor dirt-dwellers in the cow belt (in which case you're still a dipshit).
>gnarly knuckles, probably from doing too many dishes
>dark skin, clearly didn't use Fair and Lovely
>sari worn with all the grace of a drunk american on a conticki package tour
2/10 would definitely not marry
Not samefag, but I knew someone would say this, such a predictable response. She's OK looking, but certainly not the hottest. there are definitely hot stunning Indian women. The thing is that 'Indian' was not a category until the British made it one. Before that, it was many quite different (and politically separate) regions. That's nationalism for ya, but it just seems that generalizing such a vast and varying country as India is unfair. Just to generalize, southerners tend to be fugly, although Malu girls can be quite pretty. Northerners (ahem, lighter skinned, ahem) tend to be prettier, but Biharis and Bengalis are also Northerners, yet tend to be darker, and pretty meh. Although I have seen some pretty Bengali girls... if you like 'em dark.
Anyone who's been to India and isn't a total redneck would know what I'm talking about. There are plenty of hot Indian women you'd push your granny down a flight of stairs to nut on, although a great number of fuglies too. The 'middle ground' is much narrower. Same with black (African) women, IME.
Fuck all the stats. Why do most people consider Indian people unattractive.
And your thing about middle upper class yes, those are the ones that tend to be attractive. So I guess that makes me a dipshit. I actually want to fuck a an Indian chick . The ones that have nice bodies and shave are good. One of my favorite porn o's growing up was a Ben Dover one when he seduced some Indian chick. I was relating the opinion I've seen others display. I don't personally have a problem with Indians.
>Fuck all the stats
As said by everyone who has absolutely no evidence to back up their worthless drivel.
>Why do most people consider Indian people unattractive.
>maybe if I keep using nebulous terms like "most people", someone will buy my bullshit argument!
You sound like a fucking child at this point. Thanks for the shocking revelation that rich people look better than poor people.
And most of the billions of Indians are poor and most people's exposure to Indians globally is poor migrant workers, so it's not hard to see why this opinions of Indians is common.
But here is a better question, if not Indians, what race or country or ethnicity would you say globally is considered the least attractive. You keep saying it's not the Indians but offer no alternative
>most people's exposure to Indians globally is poor migrant workers
Yea sure, if you're from the Gulf area. Otherwise the number of migrant workers in developed nations is completely negligible. Once again, you routinely use the phrase "most" or "most people" despite having absolutely no evidence to back up what you're claiming.
Also, "most" of the entire world is poor you asshat; by that logic literally every race is unattractive, including yours. Why are you so fucking ignorant? I'd think you were trolling but your persistence in this matter leads me to think you actually believe the bullshit you're saying.
>it's not hard to see why this opinions of Indians is common.
It really isn't common, you're just projecting your own stupid bias onto other people.
>what race or country or ethnicity would you say globally is considered the least attractive. You keep saying it's not the Indians but offer no alternative
Honestly, how old are you? This is a loaded question. There does not have to be a least attractive race, because the attractiveness of other races is entirely subjective, and I doubt there's anyone on the planet who has sampled enough people from every race and sub-race to hold a legitimate, educated opinion on the matter.
>You also see them when you go to India
About 4.2 million out of 1.25 billion Indians are domestic migrant workers. That is "most people's exposure to Indians"? .03% of the population? Is there a single thing you post that has even a single fact behind it?
yeah because most of that other Billion is in India bathing in garbage. Maybe it's an Ancient beauty secret
Since it looks like y'all are done. Thank you for playing, that was fun.
Actually Check the stats for White Americans, as a race they are the lest desired, though for White men, black women are slightly higher excluded than east Indians. Here are the facts
>black women are "slightly" higher excluded than east indians
Are you fucking delusional m8? That's an 11.6% difference, there's nothing slight about it. Notice how you didn't say that East Indian men are "slightly higher excluded" (1.5%) than Middle Eastern men because of your ridiculous bias. This is embarrassing; you can't even read statistics properly.
What about this OKCupid study, which shows that Indian females get around the same reply rates, on average, as Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans, and Whites, and dramatically more replies than Blacks. Indian men do worse, but still receive around the same reply rates as Blacks and Asians.
An intelligent person would deduce that neither of these studies really conclusively prove anything since the differences are so marginal. That being said, if you want to use your ridiculous nonsense logic you could easily say that Blacks are statistically the most unattractive race, followed by Asians, Hispanics and Indians together, followed the Middle Easterners, then Whites.
Actually blacks males are the most attractive. Hell the only places females really travel for sex tourism is to fuck black guys. Several studies have examined reactions to differences in skin color and facial features. Some have used opinion surveys. Others have examined how facial photographs are rated for physical attractiveness. Such studies may be less affected by other factors such as differences in intelligence or personality that may be demonstrated by the subject in an interview situation such as in the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health.
A 1978 survey of 1000 White college students found that "Males indicated somewhat greater preference for lighter female coloration, while females indicated somewhat greater preference for darker male coloration".
A 1986 study using a cross-cultural survey found that lighter skin was more strongly preferred for women than for men in all culture areas.
A 2004 study by T. Joel Wade found drawings of faces with white characteristics were rated significantly more attractive than black male faces by a group of 38 white females and 5 black females. A 2008 study by the same researcher, looking at female facial attractiveness by males found Asian female faces to be least attractive, white female faces most attractive and black female intermediate.
A 2011 study examined the ratings of photographs of Black, White, and mixed-race faces. White females faces were rated the most attractive as were Black male faces. White skin color increased attractiveness for females as did black skin color for males.being more positive."
>literally looking at a chart that shows that black males get significantly lower response rates than asians, hispanics, middle easterners, native americans, pacific islanders, and whites
>actually black males are the most attractive
That's why women don't respond to them on dating websites, because they're the most attractive, right? Are you even trying at this point? Shouldn't you be making a cuck thread on /b/ or something
>as were Black male faces
Know what determines attractiveness? Not looking like a gorilla and not being from a culture which a high rate of infectious disease, especially sexually transmitted ones. So, I'm not going to trust any survey that rates it #1, because it's nonsense. Media, film and a sad anglo-influenced world gives height, ight skin, slim noses, symmetry, big eyes, smooth hair, etc....all gets precedent in international attractiveness. That's the facts of what is considered beautiful by most of the world over. People get plastic surgery to take away aspects of their heritage, lighten their skin, process their hair, all of the above, to fit the beautiful norm all the time.
Because not all Indians are black? Dude use your fucking head. Also the south indians do not look similar at all. Here's a side-by-side: nose, chin, cheeks, eyes, lips, complexion...they're not even close.
But all Africans don't look similar either. All Africans aren't black, as well. Let Alone blacks in the USA. The same arguments can be said for both
Ha, you say I should've bowed out, but yet htey still come for me!!!!
And all whites don't look similar. What the fuck is your point? Statistically speaking, blacks are the least attractive race. I don't know why. I don't have an opinion about them myself, but I'm not going to argue with numbers.
Yea, no shit. I see you're trying to make a career of saying things that everyone already knows. The poster in question said that "the darker indians look very similar [to africans]", which is a bullshit statement. They look nothing alike, even their skin color is a different shade of brown.
>Okay but the darker Indians look very similar so how on one breath can say the blacks aren't attractive but the Indians are?
An intelligent person would not make a statement about a races attractiveness because they realize that there are attractive and unattractive members of every race. I'm not really sure what argument you are trying to make. The original comment was that incited all this garbage was saying that Indians are the most unattractive race, which has been statistically proven not to be true. Sure, you can still believe that, but that means you disagree with the majority.
>Shouldn't you be making a cuck thread on /b/ or something
dude I don't think you were supposed to actually go and do it. also black men get the second least amount of responses on online dating websites, after indian men. hardly "master race" m8
I'm not sure why everyone got riled up about the Indains. Especially after several people shared their exepriences on what happens to Indians in Thailand. But one way to be sure to rile up 4Chaners is to speak good of the nig nogs. lol
I doubt there are Bible thumpers hre, but sage advice from good King Solomon, the Jew that he was: When arguing with fools, don't answer their foolish arguments, or you will become as foolish as they are
ahem. Actually. The original argument, if correctly inferred, was against Indian men, Then the White Knights swooped in posting the outlier Indian chicks that weren't even that hot. Then they made good entertainment.
Ok, we're all beautiful, and Indians and whoever totally don't deserve their reputation amongst Thai women... can we get the thread back on track now?
Hey everyone, we're all gonna get laid!
they hate em, even though half of them have some chink heritage themselves, lel.
What matters though is that you're chinese AMERICAN. Trust me, they'll know you're from USA and not China just by looking at you.
like the other dude said it's good you are american
also the fact that you are light skinned is also a positive that's about it though just be polite and treat them with respect they will warm up to you.
You will be fine - thai girls hate people from the middle east and blacks.
They love Chinese and Japanese guys cause they have small dicks, they are fast and they don't haggle for price.
They love whitey the most.
I know plenty of black guys married to Thai chicks. If it's an American I don't think they care that much. Know black expats too. But I do know Thai chicks who avoid black guys because of dick size. Not that they've experienced it, but because of the stereotype. I have a hooker friend that will turn down a customer and give the money back if his dick is too big. Says it's not worth the medicine she'd need after the fact.
I've met some african community in BKK and thais were pretty cool with them, doesnt know where you find that "hate".
Mixed myself, not even good looking, but i got laid easily. It's exactly like everywhere else, simple if you don't go full retard
I totally agree. I spent 2 weeks in BKK in December and went to Nana Plaza almost every night, mostly at Spellbound. (They don't have coyotes or whatever you call girls hired to just attract customers) I saw good looking girls that spent all night in the bar and never went out even once.
Has anyone else noticed, out of the neverending Japan thread, the Thai ones are the only ones that last long enough to get saged? I wonder if their should be a nevrending Thailand thread. Maybe a never ending TEFL, too. Though they don't usually last long enough to sage, there is always several.
A how-to for what? How to get a white woman to do that? Pretty much next to impossible but your best bet is Romania, Latvia, or maybe even a Czech girl.
I'm not much help here, white women have annoyed the shit out of me for a very long time, hence the Thai wife.