>>977306 It's funny, I could think of several commissioners that are scum, but not so much artists. I used to like Paint, but then she had the biggest bitch fit evarz. Otherwise, shit, bad time to think on this for me.
>>986953 A complete faggot, in the literal and 4chan context. I found him through his Isabelle art, but unfortunately it's one of those "that's not something I normally draw" type deals, everything else is muscle, gore, or male inflation. Like that other anon said he's also a SJW with his head far up his ass and doesn't know when to drop an argument with a troll.
Also anyone have know why his "girlfriend" is now a green recolor Mordecai from regular show? I thought he broke up with his pinata wolf boyfriend but I guess that bird is said boyfriend but now a girl and not a pinata. Did he come out as a tranny or something?
>actually following furry gossip >actually caring about shit taste, shit fetish, shit people sparkledog bona fide furfags >actually listening to their disgusting degenerate, antics, whining, and constant stream of drama >not sticking strictly to the artists that make decent content without putting their dumb lives on their pages like it's fucking Facebook >not enjoying it as a fetish like it is
He's hit or miss. It doesn't help that he does TFs, because those often end up looking like lumpy deformed humans, or furries that lost all of their fur to a fire accident, at least while they are mid-change.
RJS, his art may be good, but not at the prices he has set good. Plus a look at his twitter shows that he can be a real asshole; though I'll admit, some posts of his can be funny and I'll agree with. Not to mention he doesn't keep up with his Patreon very well.
>>1053688 Sorry, wish I could find it, but I guess he changed his url. And unlike other artsites that tell you when someone changes their url, Tumblr just goes "were you looking for a page? Well it's not here now. Oh well."
>>1068325 I've commissioned from Miles-DF and Veramundis
This was when miles still had some effort put into his shiny plastic doll people. It was quick; however, he doesn't really pay attention to things written on your ref sheet if you have one. Like, I said it was a hybrid face and he stuck straight with dragon, even though it was clear there was a difference. He did make small changes that were necessary to the design, like changing the nails from the weird flat ones to ones that actually stuck out like a dragon's. IF you have a super difficult character you might have issues with communicating with him.
As for Veramundis, he's STILL drawing the art I commissioned him in November(?) Somewhere around that time. He will distort your character's design, and sometimes leave out important details in favour of something that may look aesthetically pleasing to him, but may detract from the design's purpose (which i am not pleased about, but it's been so many months now I don't want to mention it anymore). He has great art, is a nice person to work with, gives you updates if he's taking a long time, but damn if he can't follow the instructions. That's good when you're doing personal work, but not commission work.
>>1068365 There's a really good reason for that. If you're taking animation commissions, you're going to WANT it not to be private. that stuff can take days to weeks to do, and that's time you could have spent posting other things and having exposure time. To have a private animation commission makes you appear inactive, and in the furry fandom, posting a lot is everything. I don't agree with that appeal but it's the way it rolls.
>know someone who's good at drawing fat anthros >they're a huge SJW genderqueer >tolerate them because of their art >tumblr comic about the woes of having to buy feminine hygiene products gets called out by another Fatfur artist >SJW artist sends them an ask >"Any reason you felt you needed to reinforce that you're anti-SJ? Just curious" >Other fatfur artist refutes them with factual evidence >SJW starts pulling random tangents like Bernie Sanders, how the new Star Wars is "progressive" to show the effect of social justice in media, and that the other guy probably thinks all feminists are man hating lesbians, despite the other guy not even mentioning any of those things in his argument >these are adult furries fighting on the internet >over goddamn pink soap and razors
... maybe Hoot. I never actually followed any of the drama, so I don't know what happened or didn't happen. But I noticed she went on a long hiatus, and when she came back he art style had changed drastically. Her old stuff was really nice, soft and sensual. The new stuff is still quite well done (and she even does a few lewds every now and then) but it's all a lot more... cartoony. It's got this goofy vibe that doesn't work for me. Not like her older stuff.
I don't know Jay Naylor personal life, but he is a serious racist. Not a fun 4chinz racist either. Its some sort of objectivist nightmare. The themes in his art has been even more degenerate, however that could just be his audience. Idk guys, porn should be fun and his porn isn't fun. I like the way he draws horsecock though
>>1090254 The Jay Naylor hate-train always gets blown wildly out of proportion because he's into cuckolding. For some reason that causes a lot of furries to foam at the mouth and start bashing their heads together.
I do think he (Naylor) is a Randian, which is... odd. But he's not worth hating over. Mostly he seems like an average, okay guy. (Who draws great asses).
>>977306 Worked with an Australian writefag, guy was kind of a douche at times. His fb would have nothing but complaints about his home country, but irl he wouldn't shut up about much he liked it here because it reminded him of Australia.
>>1118849 The ones that really baffle me are people who commission fatfaces. These things go for 10-20$ and it's just same face art but with extra lines surrounding them. I don't get why every other fatfur loves these so much.
>>1120139 He went from being an obese dragon made of butter and toast wings to just simply a yellow obese dragon. I assume the reason Butterfaggot hasn't been mentioned before is because any fatfur knows he is the definition of good artist, shitty person.
>>1119100 most of the time those are shit and just have the character's face copypasted into premade lineart but when it's done well it can be pretty fucking hot desu i dunno, maybe i'm just a degenerate autist
>>1117866 Some Russian fuck who draws (admittedly good) weight gain comics with absolutely shit dialogue. He also draws a lot of vore, but I don't care about that so meh.
In his second(?) most recent comic, Hetty, he's gone off the deep end in order to combat pirates.
As in, he has a fifty dollar paywall to even get what he's drawn already, plus 30 dollars per month on his patreon for new pages as they come out in HD, as well as him either: Manually emailing you the images, each personalized with embedded tracking info so he can figure out who leaks his stuff. Or a download page that autoimagically does the above.
>>1136274 Oh, so he's the artist of Hetty. That's some pretty hot stuff. Nothing gets me harder than seeing a chubby canine with a taut belly lounging around in the nude. I can get why he's protective with his material seeing as how I found alot of his stuff on a hentai site, but that's going overboard. Planting tracking devices into your files? Is that even legal?
>>1139046 Yes The best part is that this started over it being posted on a website that complies with artist's takedown requests and there's a do not post list, so the guy is literally just being retarded Shame because I probably would have paid a fair price to read that shit, what I've seen is pretty great to me and I'm a homofag
>>1139363 the implication was that it was so well done/high quality from a fetish perspective that I was still attracted to it regardless of the fact that Hetty's a grill something about her personality makes her attractive though (in addition to the fat art just being really good,) I think it's gotta be the hedonistic glutton-lust because everything else about her character screams that she's a fucking psychopath
>>1089297 >>1120128 Longcriercat. Here's the link to the full argument http://slimes-on-you.tumblr.com/post/137712753561/any-reason-you-felt-you-needed-to-reinforce-that and the critique on the comic that started it all http://slimes-on-you.tumblr.com/post/137654728196/threyon-anyone-who-believes-theyre
>>1094120 Was this who you were thinking of? >>1155158 I wouldn't be surprised if Samael did something like this
>>1090902 >>1099967 Jay Naylor has a target painted on his back for one reason, and one reason alone: He was open about his views when he was one of the very, very few wellknown fur artists, and he mixed it with fur in his webcomic. The reason people call him racist is because he drew niggers as hyena's, and they were stereotypical niggers. But that kind of falls in line with him being a cuck, because niggers in cuck porn are always racist, bestial stereotypes.
People hate Jay Naylor because of the same reason they hate furries: It's useless kneejerking from ten years ago. It shows you're one of the cool kids.
>>1173048 He's half right; furfaggotry is still autistic as fuck (can confirm), but at least a large portion of furfags realize that it's autistic as fuck and keep their fetish hidden, as they should. The actual autists who still treat it as something more than a fetish, as a community or lifestyle, are autistic enough already and can't be helped.
>>977306 I love this video. It always reminds me of when the time I spent in Spain during the spring of 1973. My grand daughter had just graduated from college and to celebrate, I took her to Spain. We had an excellent time but the food was not to my liking.
>>1205573 It happened because he spent a thousand dollars to make it happen. Indie budgets are tight. Can you really blame them for taking a k in exchange for making some asshole's shitty character an easter egg?
>>1205142 I honestly never got what the issue with this was, he wanted to help the game get funded and donated a fuckton of money to it and got the reward as a result, and nothing referencing his fetish shit was even suggested.
>>1205951 except he didn't mix fetish shit with it and the perk was to get a character of yours into the game it would make sense that he would want the butter dragon considering it's basically a self insert
>>1206095 had he done it with another character of his that is solely drawn for fetish shit i'd agree somewhat, but as i said his dragon character is supposed to be (to my knowledge at least) a self representation and he does a decent amount of non-fetish art of him not to mention that the undertale character is basically separate anyway, it looks near identical but it has no reference to the original it was based off of (not even a shared name)
>>1206007 >except he didn't mix fetish shit with it Dude, the faggot has a huge fixation on shaking male asses in front of his viewers, and especially his own. Guess what one of his attacks is? Shaking his ass in your face, or as the game calls it the "hyponotic 3D tush wiggle". >perk was to get a character of yours into the game it would make sense that he would want the butter dragon considering it's basically a self insert You know who else were fanmade backer monsters? Muffet and Glyde. Notice how they feel more like monsters you would see in the Undertale universe than Butterdragon? Those backers didn't make self inserts because they're not autistic narcissists like Samael.
>>1206247 didn't know about the butt attack thing, that's a bit retarded but it's still not that bad considering he donated 1k to it i still don't have an issue with him putting that character in the game since there's (as far as i know) no major incorporation or reference to his other shit other than that one minor thing nobody who didn't already know about it would really notice
>>1206327 >Did you notice the insert was made into an extremely obscure easter egg? that's not the point, anon. The point is that Samael is enough of a vain 'sperg to even want his fetish-shit OC in the game at all.
Tobyfox knew the character is fetish shit, and that's why he made it a super obscure easter egg, but the fact of the matter is that Samael wanted it in at all in the first place.
>>1206444 not that guy, but what you said was basically was trying to say. Not only is he such a sperg to self insert himself as a boss, he's so autistic he treats his entire battle as a blog entry. Nobody wants to endure 10 rounds of him stroking his ego, crying, and talking about his self esteem issues.
>>1207602 >Seems like everyone else is into country sized landmasses at minimum. I know that feeling bro. Tbh, I enjoy a wide range of sizes ranging from HIGHTEST to fat as fuck (within reason), I just hate fat arms and fat necks. Hyper really doesn't do anything, since it ruins the proportions beyond my range of tolerance.
>>1221472 >>1221529 I'm 99% certain that (A) People with a political fetish exist (remember, this is the planet with tile-patterns guy.) (B) That particular image is a joke at the fact D.C. Simpson and Jay Naylor both make ridiculous political comics, as opposed to actual pro-democrat porno.
>>1243244 I dunno, there are actually a pretty good number of small-state libertarian type furs and there used to be quite a few neocons too. They're quieter (either intentionally, or because it's easier to put 'genderfluid, call me xe' in your profile than 'the federal reserve system is a conspiracy to sell us into debt slavery'), but just as prevalent.
>>1154000 he considered himself a staunch libertarian and was extremely conservative. he used to be anti-gun control. he also felt that gay marriage was a complete non-issue (before it was legalized nationwide) and kind of looked down on people who were supportive of it.
Identity Politics and Furry go hand in hand when you think about it. With SJW, you relate to others with labels (bi, gay, trans, ect ect) in the same way Furries identify themselves with labels (Species, Fetishes, Artist, ect ect). It's not who you are as a person people care about, it's about what labels you associate with. And in both circles, it's about knowing who's at the top of the social ladder, which means buying into what the popular people are saying on twitter and tumblr.
>>1256062 mate you're pretty much just describing the entirety of social interaction/social hierarchies within a community, that's not very surprising so much as it's just more noticeable with the internet
A system of laws derived from ad-hoc legislation is inherently less consistent than one developed strictly from a set of principle rights. These principle rights must see the freedom of an individual as paramount.
Also Tumblrshit is retarded. I'm pretty sure that's somewhere in the libertarian manifesto. Join today.
>>1270178 >>A system of laws derived from ad-hoc legislation is inherently less consistent than one developed strictly from a set of principle rights. true, however inconsistency is an acceptable tradeoff in exchange for the ability to come up with ad-hoc solutions to issues.
lazy example: conscription violates the rights of the individual, however if conscription is used to fight off an invasion from a state with even less respect for individual rights (i.e. the simplified 'fighting fascism' version of ww2) the ideological inconsistency of violating individual rights to protect the government (which happens to be more respecting of rights) is preferable to allowing the other state to take over and engage in even more severe violations of those rights.
this attitude of 'it's not consistent but it works' is mostly why i'm not a libertarian - violating property rights via taxation opens up immense practical options to governments, and most libertarians i've met are more focused on 'taxation is theft' than 'the government has no right to ban you from buying chocolate eggs or spy on you'
on the other hand at least they aren't tumblr, which manages to mix ideological inconsistency with a complete lack of practicality.
>>1270345 Your use of conscription is the precise thing libertarians aim to prevent.
Who are you to say I must die for my country? How do I know my government isn't lying about the conflict, and using my life for a surreptitious purpose?
Vietnam was a proxy war, and a war we did not need to fight, yet a draft was enforced. To a libertarian, forcing persons to fight in a war they don't believe in on threat of imprisonment is unjust indenturement.
If the threat is real, and a country is truly in danger of having borders overrun, then the people will meet the call of public service voluntarily. Any who do not would not likely be good candidates for military service anyhow. Threat of force is only needed if you don't believe people are capable of making decisions for themselves.
>>1270472 i'm actually anti-conscription (to the point i almost disagree with the example i'm about to use!)
>Who are you to say I must die for my country? someone in a position of power who does not need consistent justification because i have a big stick. (do not confuse this with the view that 'i SHOULD have power because i am in power', it is a statement of practicality, not a statement of ideology.)
>How do I know my government isn't lying about the conflict, and using my life for a surreptitious purpose? because it's outwith the bounds of the example situation. in conflicts like vietnam conscription is ridiculous (and counter-intuitive PR-wise.)
>To a libertarian, forcing persons to fight in a war they don't believe in on threat of imprisonment is unjust indenturement i would say it stands as a fact that it's unjust. simply that there are degrees of unjust - if i conscript you now to stop you being conscripted and kicked in the balls later, i'm still in the wrong but at least i'm less wrong.
>people will meet the call of public service voluntarily this assumes people aren't cowards who'll trade liberty for safety, a pretty dubious position. (as for the example i don't entirely agree with: WW1 Britain, where people signed up enthusiastically but conscription was still necessary to keep up with casualties. it's debatable whether WW1 risked the territory of the mainland UK herself, but people were nonetheless enthusiastic.)
>Any who do not would not likely be good candidates for military service anyhow. i'd only really say this is the case in peacetime without an immediate threat (i.e. most conscription today), which is indefensible, in cases such as Britain circa 1938 it's defensible from the standpoint that the nazis would conscript you *and* respect your other liberties less.
>Threat of force is only needed if you don't believe people are capable of making decisions for themselves. I would say that's self-evident, though people should still be free.
>>1270557 > Someone in a position of power [...] I have a big stick. This is alien to the concept of libertarianism, as such a person cannot legally use power to force such a thing as conscription. All ideologies break down when you take them out of their assumed states, so it isn't useful to use this as an example.
> because it's outwith the bounds of the example situation. Nevertheless, Vietnam happened and will happen again if allowed. Governments will use their power to the fullest extent, and will sacrifice rights of the people to meet their goals. If the government could be trusted to keep the greater good in mind always, this would be a non-issue. The problem, is governments rarely pursue the best solution, or even a positive solution.
> there are degrees of unjust Sure, but taking my decision away from me is always more unjust than allowing my free choice. You can suggest, and give reason, and if I still refuse well then I am responsible for my eventual despair. This is the burden of freedom.
> this assumes people aren't cowards who'll trade liberty for safety, a pretty dubious position. I resent anyone who would trade their liberty for safety, but I respect their free choice. Freedom requires sacrifice. I wouldn't want those people fighting at my side, and I might just be one of those people given the right circumstances. I can't predict the future, all I can say is I prefer choice. Your example is meritless, because from a statistical perspective it cannot be shown that enforcement of conscription had a positive effect on the outcome of the war (total casualties). War is complex, and lack of information from an alternate timeline leaves us inconclusive.
> i'd only really say this is the case in peacetime without an immediate threat My statement was a bit of a throwaway to convey a point, but I do have anecdotal evidence supporting it. I'd give it, but post cap limit.
>>1156612 >>1166352 Goddammit, when I saw them boasting about how they thought SJWs were responsible for the casting in Star Wars and how it was about overthrowing the patriarchy or whatever the fuck in that reply, my respect for them lowered even more.
The sad thing is I'm probably a liberal bastard myself. I agreed with the comic longcrier did on activists bullshitting that they're thinking about artists when it comes to censorship, when really they just want to further their own agenda, but the examples they chose and the reasons they gave were either dumb or asinine.
I mean, I want to like longcriercat because they are one of the better artists, but every time they voice their opinion on something they come off as an asshole. I still remember that time they just blew up at Anuvia and wrote a multi-paragraph post shitting on her without even explaining why they were upset. Like jesus, chill the fuck out.
It doesn't help that their pal Farx will defend anything they do, it just reinforces their shitty behavior. I could say more but I'm just fucking tired of it.
>>1270178 >A system of laws derived from ad-hoc legislation is inherently less consistent than one developed strictly from a set of principle rights. Half-correct, pragmatic policy at the cost of ideals must also be considered >These principle rights must see the freedom of an individual as paramount. What the fuck are you smoking you autist.
>Who are you to say I must die for my country? It is your country, being willing to die for it is part of being a citizen. The state, the government, and the nation are all part of the same.
>then the people will meet the call of public service voluntarily. No they won't you pleb; some fucks in California sure as hell won't sign up if Florida is being invaded. Coercive force is required to circumvent collective action problems and to mitigate problems caused by rational individual actions.
A good while ago now, there was an LPer by the name of Tatsudoshi. He was a good guy, probably like, a C-list LPer, and did videos with his best friend CornandBourbon and Corn's sister, SpazzyKoneko.
Eventually, Tatsu and Spazzy started going out and actually got married. Within a year, something went afoul between the two, and they got divorced. All Tatsu said was that she 'broke a promise'.
Basically, he tried keeping the show going, but a bunch of youtube shit also hit him and he couldn't keep it going.
And since the divorce, Spazzy was way more openly affectionate with one of her FA friends, and her fursona has been appearing in explicit stuff that she previously never allowed, even before the two of them became a thing. On BLITZA's account no less, to the point she's pretty much one of his 'girls' now. Like, hyper statuettes and everything.
Seeing her like that is seeing a descent into debauchery and being sexualized into a slut, which is fucking HOT. Especially since she was the least funny of the three anyway.
Just wish she didn't take Tatsu down with her.
While writing this, I figured I'd check to see if Tatsu had a Let's Play page on Tvtropes, and apparently he fucking does and is doing videos again with Corn and a new girl.
So yeah. All the boners, and no more sadness. Hallelujah, HOLY SHIT.
>>1286773 This. Anon's an idiot if he really did not expect a thread with a fat furry on it to contain fat furries. Either that or just purposely coming here to get mad, but that's still idiotic because the thread is already dead.
>Dr. Flipster/zacharyissacs Out of all the people I have commissioned, they were the only one that I had issues with.
Last year I commissioned them to draw a female furry character chubby, gave them references and, knowing they mostly draw porn, I asked them to make it non-sexual. So a few days later they show me a WIP. Even though it was well drawn, it was nothing I asked for. She wasn't chubby, she was a pear, and she was nude with perky nipples. I told them I said I wanted non sexual and they responded with "well in my personal opinion, I don't find the female form sexual, so I'm not violating your request". Ok cool, but I'm the commissioner and I say exposing your tits is sexual. I also told them that I didn't want her hips so huge and gave more references. They responded with "Don't worry, I'll keep working on it until it meets your satisfaction" Spoiler Alert: no they won't.
The next day he sends me another WIP. She's still naked, her hips are somewhat smaller but she's still a pear. I tell him again that's not what I requested and he said he would work on it again. Day after day same thing happens, no matter what I said, how many references I showed, or even redlines I drew, he would not stop drawing her with fat hips. And with each "revision" I could tell he was getting more frustrated. Finally get a message, "Hey, I'd like to get on with the rest of the commission, is it ok to start coloring?" "No, it isn't, she's still nude and pear shaped and even if I was ok with that I don't know what color her nipples would be." "Oh that's ok, I already have a color set." "Huh?" "the nipples will be the same color as their eyes" (end part 1)
(Part 2) That was the dumbest concept I've ever heard an artist say. My character had purple eyes and I sure as hell was not going to let him draw her with neon purple nipples. So I told him that I didn't want that and I told him to draw her without huge hips and he said he can't because that would be "unrealistic". At that point I am just done and ask "What do you mean unrealistic? I sent you many references of chubby furries and photos of models without huge hips, that is not an unrealistic bodytype!" He gets upset and made some rude remark about me and then blocks me on skype, FA, and Tumblr. At least he was considerate enough to refund me.
I guess my character commission single handedly destroyed them because they made a post saying they will never take commissions again because the clients "screw over" the artists and from their past experiences they will never want to draw non-MLP anthro characters for cash ever again.
Sometime later, I was on a fatfur's stream and then they came on. I was dreading they would make things awkward by talking to me and bringing it up and my fears were confirmed. At least they did it in a whisper. They said they were sorry for the outbursts and writing that announcement and that they unblocked me on skype to talk. So I went over there and talked thinking we could reconcile. Turns out they were happy with their decision to block me and just wanted to gloat about it before blocking me again.
tldr; I will never commission them again nor do I recommend anyone commissioning them with how rude, disorganized, and dramatic they were. I thought they could draw more than furries with fat asses, but I guess I was wrong. I will say that's a fault on my part for thinking that seeing as how pic related is what they consider "chubby".
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