Left or right /a/?

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it's impossible for me to choose

Left a Slut

Don't go for left, /a/.

Just don't.

>shit tier short hair or shit tier boring hair style

Is going gay an option?

Right

>>1257364
Can't I have both?

>>1257364
Right. Right all the way.

And that's coming from a leftie.

>embarrased to feel breeze between her legs

That seals it, I'm taking right

>>1257368
Only if you go with me.

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The obvious choice.

>>1257364
Right is hnnnngg

Also better hair style by far

>>1257364
Right looks like Iroha... so I am biased to pick her.

>>1257374
Did this get translated in the thread yesterday? If not someone needs to get on it.

Why is the longer skirt distorting my decision?

I like sluts, but right is really cute too.

Right also just looks better.

Right if she promises to start wearing her glasses again

Left will put out first, reach this point than bail.

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Girls who look like sluts but are actually pure are the best.

>>1257378
Because long skirts are love, anon.

>>1257364
>not choosing the secret freak

>>1257364
Right, ain't even a question.

Right. No question.

>>1257364
>long black hair
>Actually knows how to take care of herself

Left.

>>1257364
Right is objectively better, but who the hell dyes their hair brown?

>>1257380
Yeah, this is the deal-breaker.

Left
I don't need purity where I'm going

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>>1257364
I'd like to have an innocent-looking girl who is actually innocent though.

>>1257387
This
How do you unironically bet against hime-cut?

>>1257364
Left, good god left.

Right.

>>1257364
Holy shit, this is a harder decision than I expected it to be.

I ended up picking Left, so long as she isn't innocent with only me.

>>1257392
Hime cut's power is halved if the bearer is not actually a hime type personality

>>1257364

Right, best of both worlds.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IzR_ClTE8Y

>>1257395
Don't disdain left. She lies to everyone, even you.
Breaking through her lies is yet another appeal of Left.

>>1257396
>Hime cut's power is doubled if the bearer is not actually a hime type personality
FTFY

Left and it's not even close.

>>1257391
>transfer students from America

>>1257399
I would prefer having left watch my back than right.


>>1257398
So, left?

>>1257368
Enjoy your long haired men, faggot.

>>1257364
>no romantic experience
my dick is diamonds

>>1257400
you disgust me

>>1257364

Insecure people will choose right.

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>>1257404
I will, anon

>Dresses like a whore and is a dead fish in bed

Left

>>1257409
>dead fish
She would be shy and loving. The dead fish would be the slut because you've probably boring to her.

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>>1257405
>>powervirgin

I'd go for left, but she sounds like she'd turn into a manipulative bitch once you got in.

>>1257364
As much as I'd say i'd go for right. i know for a fact that i'd fall hook line and sinker for left and get horribly played.

I'm easily manipulated and retarded.

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>date right for a while
>finally get her into a room with just the two of you

What do?

>>1257407
Insecure people will try to imply that.

>>1257411
>powerdiamond

>>1257364
left and I have been dating for 9 months now

she stole me away from right

Left for hidden nympho. Preferably doesn't go for just anyone like some ridiculous slut fantasy but picks and chooses for herself.

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>>1257414
Hold hands

>>1257414
Talk to her about why our lord and savior Jesus Christ should be in her life

>>1257414
Ask her to teach your all the kinky shit she's learned from her many sexual conquests, and then lie back and watch her panic.

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1980~ JAPAN Onyanko club

>>1257374
>>1257377
Top text: A shy girl's ideal way to invite a guy on a date, and the cruel reality

(Top half)
Top right blue box: Ideal/imagination

Arrows (right to left): Smooth explanation of the situation // A "please" pose // Casually hinting that she doesn't have a boyfriend

Speech bubbles (right to left): Hey, got a sec? // I won this amusement park ticket at the shopping district's lottery, but... // You can only go with a guy+girl pair, // so I hate to ask you this, but can you just pretend to be my boyfriend for the day? (please?)

(Bottom half)
Top right blue box: Reality

Arrows (right to left, top to bottom): Messes up her own speaking volume // It's exactly what you think // Poorly-constructed sentence // Loses sight of what she's trying to say

Speech bubbles (right to left): U-Umm... Umm... TICKET! ...This ticket // No, umm, it's not what you think // This is, umm, the lottery at the shopping district, I... got this there // Umm, the old lady who was in front of me in the line won some mackerel and let me have some, and... // ......it was yummy

>>1257418
This. Left sets out to prey on you, if she wants something she goes all the way. You turn right into a non virgin and she'll run to the next guy like all virgins that try too hard. She's is already going for the slut vibe.

>>1257417
>left didn't get bored and dumped you for right
dropped

>>1257423
>it was yummy
yes i bet it was, also who even still does this at this day of age?

>>1257423
Thanks anon.

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>>1257420
I completely agree

>>1257364
NEITHER MAN I'M A HOMOSEXUAL.

>>1257420
That's a prerequisite anyway.

>>1257423
>it was yummy
Anon pls

>>1257426
Do you even shopping districts (shotengai)? They don't always go to the mall or supermarket.

>>1257415
>implying

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>>1257374
Shit, my heart

>>1257410
You miss wrote but left has obvious acting and manipulation powers

>>1257429
I respect you sexuality.

>tfw i will never ever experience young love.

hold me /a/

Left because she actually has a personality.

>>1257364
they have cowtits, they are all shit. now post loli.

>>1257437
A fake personality..

>>1257431
I put "yummy" because she's shy and messing up her words, and it felt appropriate that she'd say that instead of "delicious."

>>1257436
>tfw hip, young, and 18
I'll live your life for you gramps

>>1257423
That settles it, Spaghetti chan it is.

>>1257438
>left loli has classic rock CDs for sale
>right loli does not have classic rock CDs for sale
Choose carefully /a/.

>>1257441
>tfw 10 years later and still virgin

>>1257442
>current year
>dadrock


Right loli best loli

>>1257442
the M in my says Left.

>>1257440
Now that I look again that does fit her better. Cuter choice of words too.

The moment that "innocent" girl discovers the pleasures of the flesh she will no more be so innocent.

I pick left because I know what i am getting into and she seems more confident in herself.

>>1257447
You're gonna get cucked anon.

>>1257447
The trick is to bully right and make her dependent on you

Left will just cuck you.

>>1257448
>cucked
He's going to get NTRed anon. Please refrain from being a faggot.

>>1257364
>dying her hair brown
If you're gonna do it then go blonde. Also slutty looking pure girls are for me. Goody two shoe dressing girls usually look boring as fuck

>>1257448
When did /a/ stop saying NTR?

>>1257448
>>1257450
>betas

>>1257414
get her pregnant after the first night so that we get married and she never NTRs me out of a child

>>1257451
>dying your hair blonde when you're asian

Terrible idea

>>1257447
>I pick left because I know what i am getting into
Left is baiting.

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Which one?

>>1257448
Have fun with your totally innocent virgin that will totally not mutate into a dick craving slut, especially when you consider the fact that she already tries to look like one.

>>1257453
Who are you quoting, shitposter-kun?

>>1257457
Hakama or knight

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>>1257458
>your totally innocent virgin that will totally not mutate into a dick craving slut
The trick is to have her crave for your dick only.

>>1257459
>shitposter-kun
>implying

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What kind of girl is Hori?

>>1257422

Whats with the lack of diversity Japan? you racist or something?

>>1257461
Left will just tell her there's better dicks out there, and she'll leave you.

>>1257463
A whore-y one.

>>1257465
Left can fuck off

>>1257461
She's a slut that will get manipulated by anyone. If you like babysitting good luck.

>>1257457
Mohawk guy knows it.

>>1257367
Left is the h-manga route.

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>>1257465
>>1257468
Literally ShindoL-tier developments, fuck you. You really think she'll leave the first man that took her virginity? She'd probably panic and assume she will become pregnant.

>>1257447
>The moment that "innocent" girl discovers the pleasures of the flesh she will no more be so innocent.
Then the trick is not giving her the dick, easy.

>>1257364
Of course the only answer is Right.

>>1257441
>hip
Do people still even say this? Something tells me you're not a "real nigga"

>>1257468
>>1257465
>>1257458
>>1257447
Does any rational woman actually do this or is the NTR-/r9k/ cucks just shitposting again

>>1257457
>a fucking knight

>>1257472
>i-its not like I want to be a virgin, I just want you to stay pure

>>1257471
>She'd probably panic and assume she will become pregnant.
C-cute

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>>1257475
It's just an excuse for the shitposters to say "NTR". Literally one out of every three threads on this board are filled with several shitheads screaming "cuck cuck cuck" and "NTR NTR NTR". It never stops.

>>1257475
Rational women don't, but finding one might prove difficult.

>>1257364
I'm not a purity fag, but right is lookin cute as hell nigga.

>>1257419
I think we're going too fast. Do it

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2015 JAPAN

>>1257483
>no ZR

Dropped

>>1257475
>rational woman
This logic of yours is inherently flawed

>>1257483
Nice idols faggot.

>>1257483
Me on the left

Far right is the only cute one

>>1257483
2>4>1>3>5

>>1257488
It is actually astounding how you managed to get that in exact reverse order.

>>1257483
They look slightly tanned. Is this from one of the southern prefectures?

>>1257483
I want to run my tongue along 1s legs.

>>1257483
1>5>4>3>2
>>1257489
number 2 is def worse

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Chiba Japan

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>>1257457
Mohawk man is my brotha from anotha motha

>>1257483
1-4-3-5-2

>>1257490
It's not sun tan.

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SO COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL JAPAN

Are we seriously having a 3d schoolgirl thread on /a/
This is /jp/ material

>>1257493
>>1257483
How is it that short haired girls are so superior everytime?

6 fucking captchas, fuck you Hiro

>>1257498
/jp/ is just /a/ wannabes.

>>1257490
Kogyaru.
They look too Japanese to be Okinawan, and thats the only place you find natural tan.

>>1257423
>girl
>ask a guy out
What is this, bizarro world?

>>1257498
Calm down newfag

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>>1257483
5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 > 4 > 1 > 2

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ＨＡＬＬＬＬＬＬＬＬＬＬＬＬＯＷ　ＵＳＡ　ＵＳＡ　ＵＳＡ

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>>1257483
I notice the nips are good at compensating their ugliness with nice clothes to even it out.

>>1257374
I'm hard.

>>1257502
Anime

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>>1257483
>those fucking alien eyes
holy horror batman, this looks shopped

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Would you risk catching the Japanese cold?

>>1257505
They don't look all too bright to be honest.

>>1257441
I remember thinking this way
>haha these feel memes are funny
>i've got all of college ahead of me
>6 years later
>dead inside

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>>1257504
this man knows

>>1257502
Feminism

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>>1257493
Best girl

>>1257475
loner women, much like loner men, will latch onto the first person to give them the d.
this is rarely the best decision and eventually someone better might come along and also show interest which creates the dilemma.

in any functioning adult this shouldn't be a problem, but when people get drunk, which is super common amongst 20 somethings, they lose all sense of reason.
When some bar douche, common among 20 somethings, approaches them, they don't have the proper experience to put him in his place and bam NTR

Too bad none of those shave.

>>1257514
Feminism results in manly girls asking out manly girls and hating men together, though.

>>1257474
You're just not up to date with the times old man

>>1257512
How do I avoid becoming lonely like this faggot /a/?

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>>1257504
Good taste

>>1257517
Shave them yourself

>>1257517
Literal pleb detected.

Right, because she's trying to improve herself. Left is just celebrating her own natural talents. I always Give an A for effort in this situation.

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(V)o￥o(V)

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>>1257517
You mean how great

>>1257519
>How do I avoid becoming lonely like this faggot /a/?
Stop posting here is a good start.

>>1257519
>How do I avoid becoming lonely like this faggot /a/?
First of all close the tab and get off 4chan

>>1257504
>>1257499
A bunch of faggots, I tell you

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>>1257515
I beg to differ.

>>1257382
doesn't matter if she's pure if she's disgusting as a person

What the fuck is up with all the 3D?

>>1257529
She just HAD to have a long skirt on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMmvMP9G_IE

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>>1257531
Do you think her mom took that picture?

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>>1257515
>>1257530
quiet down nerds, best girl is clearly over here

>>1257529
We Ass Creed now

>>1257529
>When you're late for class and you can hear the teacher marking the roll through the windows

>>1257364
Right is literally Shinka so I pick her.

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>>1257530
Good taste

>>1257524
Found best girl

>>1257529
Wow, that's actually pretty impressive.

>>1257534
Short Skirts are a shit

>>1257493
>tfw you went to middle school in Chiba years ago
>tfw there's a small chance you've known some of these girls

>>1257364
I'd rather see them date each other! It's writing itself.

>>1257519
>How do I avoid becoming lonely like this faggot /a/?
Don't study engineering and dont browse 4chan.

>>1257529
>those easy as fuck holds
That's not even a V0, I'm not impressed

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>>1257374
I really want to impregnate this girl

>>1257483
5 is a pure girl who got into the wrong crowd

>>1257548
That's exactly what she wants you to think.

>>1257529
My knees hurt from lying down.

>>1257364
Would watch hentai about left getting her hooks into right and slowly turning her into a cock addict.

Alternatively, a series where they're best friends and left dispenses love advice to right while trying to conceal her lewd behavior.

>>1257544
I like you!

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Would you play games with a nip girl in class?

>>1257553
>playing games in class
Not on my watch

Why are we discussing 3D?

>>1257553
What's she playing?

>>1257555
because shut up that's why

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>>1257554
Found the teacher

Dick says left, heart says right.

People who say you should follow your heart clearly don't know the power of the dick.

>>1257556
Gotta be Monster Hunter.

>>1257555
Japanese girls on the internet don't count as 3D, same as seiyuu and k-pop singers

>>1257555
its acceptable as long as its only japanese school setting

>>1257560
>>1257556
She's playing on mobile so some card garbage or puzzle and dragons.

>>1257364
Is right just innocent but willing to get corrupted, or prude? It's very important.

>>1257558
You bet your ass you did. That shit bothers the others in the class, especially the nerds who then come whine to me and I'd rather not deal with the whiny cunts.

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ｖ

>>1257561
>k-pop singers
They're the epitome of 3dpd though

>>1257558
>archery
The fuck is this, the 14th century?

>>1257561
Is this what /a/ has become?

>>1257563
You don't play Puzzle and Waifus sideways though.

>>1257567
Younha is pure, shut up.

>>1257364
Right, Insecurity is attractive.

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Nogizaka 46

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>>1257559
I say you should follow your brain and try to maximize happiness, minimize pain, and be energy-efficient while doing so! If you act honestly, how could things go wrong?

>>1257566
Why are they always blushing?

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The artist draws some cute stuff.

>>1257569
If you don't like it, you can go back to red dit

>>1257572
Is this one of those mass suicide by train thing?

>>1257577
They should just use koolaid. Much cleaner

>>1257574
More like, why do they always sign when they are being filmed or photographed?
This is coming from the same people who censor people's faces in random photos.

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>>1257574
It's not real blush

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>>1257364


SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKES

>/a/ openly discuss 3DPD now
You guys changed.

>>1257457
/ak/ is rocking a mohawk these days huh?

>>1257574
Asian glow

>>1257579
Because reputation is important and they don't want to be seen not smiling if the photo gets shared around.

>>1257364
Right.

>>1257573
Buridan's ass.

I really don't want to die alone guys.

>>1257587
Why is that boy wearing a skirt?

>>1257572
>those knees

Didnt know my figmas were based on average jap legs.

>>1257582
If you think this is bad, you should've seen the thread earlier with people openly blogging about their 3D girlfriends. Jesus Christ.

>>1257587
>UNO

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O-okay

>>1257457
Mohawk Guy is a true hero.
10/10 is my nigger.

>>1257594
Now that's just mean

>>1257592
Where did it all go wrong?

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>>1257422
>>1257483
>>1257524
you are all wrong, anon.

>>1257594
3 is actually really cute.

3 >> 1 > 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2

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>3DPD thread
But why?

>>1257594
3 is perfecto.

>>1257600
/a/ is dead

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>>1257565
How do you punish the delinquents who dont listen to you sempai?

>>1257582
Reminds me of the good old days

>>1257600
>>1257602
Hello there newfriends.

>>1257598
4 >>>>> 6 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 3

>implying this is average
These threads can be comfy once in a while.

>>1257600

Welcome to neo-/a/. Literal trash.

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>>1257583
Nah, top left is /ak/ talking about Girls und Panzer. Mohawkbro is normal /a/.

Shit gets serious when Mohawkbro and Afro-hakama start talking shit about each others' waifu.

>>1257603
Usually just grab them by the neck and give them a good talking, that gets through most of them.
There's also detention, but I'd rather not write those forms and I know a few hours here and there pretty much means fuck all if they really don't care about school.

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Would you a delinquent?

>>1257598
I recognize Hashimoto Kanna and Yamamoto Sayaka, who's 2?

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>>1257364
>trying too hard to be attractive
we all know how that turned out right?

>>1257609
Do you want to get sued? Because that's how you get sued.

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>>1257572
From left to right, far left is a goddess.

>>1257587
Underage gambling?
Count me in!

>>1257364
How is this even a question? Right all the way.

>>1257374
>>1257364
Where can I find more of these? Image search only brings up a bunch of twitters, can't find anything on danbooru.

>>1257615
What would you even bet?

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>>1257608
But we all know samurai spirit > knights and their slow, heavy broadswords

>>1257613
Maybe like in the US or somewhere where people have human rights.

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>>1257612
Fucking this.

>>1257364
jesus, both would be interesting to bully

>>1257617
Use SauceNao to find the artist's Pixiv account.

left for sure

>>1257457
Top-right is a chick?

>>1257457
Mohawk guy.

>>1257461
this reminds me, would ayase ever gotten lewd with kyousuke if they had ended up together? or would she have abstained well until marriage?

>>1257618
My right to wizzardy.

I now understand japanese middle aged men's obsession with teenage school girls. God damn these girls

>>1257621
I hate shindol for this

>>1257598
These girls are half gaijin mongrels.

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>>1257545
>tfw currently doing EXACTLY this
w,what do, /a/?

>>1257632
Not 4. Though you can argue she's had plastic surgery.

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>>1257633
Sudoku

I could easily be their overlord seeing as how I have firearms and they do not.

protip: the people who are screaming 3dpd on this thread are school dropout coreans

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>>1257636
>he doesn't know about how all Nips are trained to cut bullets with katana

>>1257636
Meant to reply to
>>1257610

>>1257635
>where d'you think you're going, nerd boy?

I bet you guys don't even watch anime.

>>1257641
I read manga.

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>>1257638
This surprisingly looks really good.

>>1257633
I would say take up some cool hobby and go meet girls, but that's done fuck all for me.

>meet a qt in a scuba club
>go diving with her a few times
>get a 6 month internship so I take a quarter off
>she and another of my friends come up to go diving during the summer
>we all have a good time
>figure I'll ask her out when I get back
>she's already dating some scrawny manlet when I finally do

Maybe try joining a frat?

>>1257640
That manhole behind you, ma'am. Township's checking the pipes for corrosion. Gonna smell real bad when I open it, so you might want to leave.

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>>1257641
i saw an episode of pokemon when i was 5, does that count fampai

>>1257644
Tell me more about your life anon, lets start with your name and address.

>>1257647
John Doe
12345 Fake Street

>>1257364

Brown chan a best.

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>>1257364
Pic related

>>1257647
Kevin Laurence
3089 Roan Street Wing D, Bldg. 3089. Quantico, VA 22134

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>>1257641
>watching shitty adaptations for tasteless secondaries

>>1257529
>tfw no literal ninja warrior gf

>>1257641
>animeonlyfags

Just give us /man/, hiro

>>1257650
Why is brown so sad

>>1257650
Birigyaru was a shit movie, like all movies with idols as the main lead.

>>1257653
go to a rock climbing gym 3-4 times for an hour and you can do that

>>1257652
>>1257654
Nice vocal minority-ism you minority.

>>1257625
I thought so, the fact her/his ideal of woman is as boyish as you can be without a dick suggests it as well.

Oujo-sama > Tomboy > knight > Hakama > shorts > mistress

Mistress should be higher but I don't like the stereotyped clothing associated to it.

>>1257655
She's the middle child no one cares about.

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>have to go to part time job in 6 hours
>thread is too comfy to leave
Nighttime /a/ really resembles the good old days sometimes.

This is a Japanese Jeanne D'arc

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>>1257655
because her family disowned her

>all these 3DPD shit posting

You people should stop your yellow fever before its too late.

>>1257661
Is she a witch?

>>1257493
Some of these are guys arent they

>>1257663
It's just one guy posting them.

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>Choose carefully /a/.

>>1257664
Throw her in the lake, if she floats she's a witch.

>>1257364
Sorry, but I am too insecure/scare of being manipulated to consciously let myself fall for that.
So, the actually innocent grill.

>>1257661
>have job interview in 8 hours
>plus resume and cover letter to write
>and readings
fuck

>>1257663
Hello there newfriend.

>>1257661
ARMOR IS CUTE

CUUUUUUTE

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Preview on what's going to happen to right

>>1257483
I want 3-neesan to bully me.

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>>1257672
I got some armor for you.

>>1257667
Second on the left, because she's the only one wearing her shoes properly like an intelligent human being.

>>1257673
Fuck off.

>>1257364
Right

>>1257673
This is the worst fetish

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Left or right?

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>>1257673
I want to get off this ride, but I also want to see what happens.

>>1257679
It's not bad, just over done.

>>1257681
Ass2Ass

>>1257676
First thing I thought of.

>>1257680
Both

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>>1257675
But that's forbidden love!

>>1257673
fucking shindol and this series. i can only blame myself for reading it and getting angry

>>1257374
>>1257423
Anyone typeset this?

I wish I experienced pure romantic teen love.

>>1257689
>tfw not too late for me college not underage
What do I do to trigger the start of my romcom, /a/?

>>136921696

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Mods are awake, quick, post anime

>>1257691
>even the mods support 3DPD now
That's it, I'm moving to Syria.

>>1257638
i'd let this woman bully me

>>1257689
You can't experience anymore. Every coming generation of kids have gotten worse due to the internet

>>1257690
Definitely by asking for love advice in a mongolian textiles image board full of NEETs.

>>1257689
i did, still haven't recovers from being dumped 10 years ago

>>1257673
>it's either this
>or she reaches the uni pure and gets converted into tumblr dyke
Life is so cruel.

>>1257420
I've lived in japan for three months now, and every american I've met has been a FUCKING MISSIONARY

It's not funny anymroe

>>1257690
Slip on a banana peel and land on a tit. If you can't manage at least that you're doomed.

Left. They're both going to leave you. The only difference is that you already know it'll happen with left. Plus she can teach you how to use your cock effectively. When your cock-game is thunder you can go for right. You can cuck the idiot that decides to go for her first but was too pussy to take her virginity the whole time and you'll still have left as a booty call. Invest in the future.

>>1257391
DELETE THIS

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>>1257698
Some girls made it out of uni intact. Or at least art/trade schools.

Of course this can only easily happen in 2D. Way too much 3d shit in this thread.

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>>1257553
They look so comfy

>>1257414
Put a ring on it

>>1257391
No joke though, this happened one too many times on Okinawa by military service members and now the liberty policy there sucks dick.

>>1257690
I want to know this as well. I read shoujo to become a love guru but they don't cover university and josei are often set in the post uni world.

>>1257429
This is fine

>>1257707
Read Honey and Clover, it covers university.

Practice on left, date right.

It just struck me what's wrong with this thread; it started out fine but then veered off.

It's not like Japanese schoolgirls are not /a/ related, but 3D ones are not directly so... they are very, very much a /jp/ thing. I remember there used to be "japan watching" threads on /jp/ where they'd find public webcam feeds and just sit there watching nips be nips.

Same goes with seiyuu threads while I'm at it; that shit should be moved to /jp/.

/a/ should be all 2D, it's in the fucking board title.

>>1257711
>3D has been posted for the last 2 hours
>I just figured out what's wrong with this thread

>>1257532
This. Absolutely this.

Id take a freaky slut with a heart of gold than a selfish, heartless woman who believes herself pure because she hasnt had cock yet.

>>1257713
But right doesn't seem like that. She's just a naive cutie who tried too hard to make her high school debut. Doesn't even act like a slut, considering the captions on her two pictures.

>>1257712
I wasn't in this thread until like 5 minutes ago. I just wanted to point out that it's very /jp/ since apparently no one else did, at least for the edification of newfag mods/janitors who don't know the difference.

>>1257364
Not innocent looking who isn't innocent