3rd Party Transformers General: Needs More Gun Edition

>>6442053

Iron Factory's back when every release came with all of those damn guns and shields and whatever. Shame they stopped doing that.

Striker Noir, ultimate edgelord

>>6442053
what is that?

>>6442053
Maker-related, does anyone have thoughts on Maketoys Visualizers? The sale is still going on and they're running at $80.

>>6442052
I'll have to keep that tip tip in mind.

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>>6442061
Maketoys Chaos Paladin.

PCC compatible bot with pcc compatible drone tank that can separate into various weapons or armor him up into a not-Fallen

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>>6442063
>I'll have to keep that tip tip in mind.

Just make sure you want it in. Once it's in, I'm pretty sure it's not coming out unless you break it.

>>6442105

Post whose it is when you do this.

>>6442106
Coming from DaimChoc, that's apparently Giga Power's 3rd work.

>>6442102
So it doesn't cause much issue with the longer one used in alt-mode I take it?

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In light of recent revelations, I am anticipating a flood of unofficial Dinobot combiners on the after market. I've checked out what I could, and youtube vids basically lick both combiner's feet. Forum posts say both have stability issues. From my observations, I'm leaning towards Gcreations because
>Amazing Combined Heads
>Better aesthetic
>Better individual Dino modes

I'm asking if anyone here has either and if they could give their thoughts. Are these guys even worth it at, even at large discount? Any Diecast? Is the chorme tough? Do they actually stay together, and could you compare the stability to any other 3p combiner?

>>6442114

Nah, just use the long one and you'll be fine in both modes.

>>6442127

I want one where Sludge becomes the legs and Swoop's just the wing backpack...

I always liked the idea of Sludge being bigger than the others.

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How many turds are making movie shit now?

>>6441803

From the other thread.

Make sure Ultimate Commander comes with the elita-1 freebie. Some of them don't.

>>6442188
This one does not but I'm fine with that since I'm already getting Pink Assassin and know nothing about Elita 1.

I'm not big on repaints.

>>6441742
Who do you think has / will have the best legends Soundwave then? Not entirely sure on Hot Soldiers' offering, and DX9 is going to be a definite "no" from me. I know there's at least 1 other that's supposed to be in the works, but I can't remember who was making it.

>>6442224

Personally I'm going with the Hot Soldiers option. For one, it's only $15.
DX9's is much more expensive and looks the same or worse, and IF's has both a shit altmode AND is only in a box set with Perceptor. I can excuse missing an upper arm swivel on a Legends 3P figure for $15, and if a better one comes along at some point, I'll snatch that one up.

>>6442243
Keep in mind, HTS is larger than most legends figures. He will be a big Soundwave. Also, no upper arm swivel. Still a great figure though and worth the price.

>>6442334
>>6442243
The only one that I'm still seeing listed in stock at the $16 price point is Soundblaster. Other than that it's the toy-color version that's ~$25 that has the 2 weird colored cassettes, or the clear plastic version.

Well I'll be damned TFS actually shipped out all those iron factory figures the same day I ordered them.

Fucking miracle.

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Got Susanoo this morning and he's pretty great. Solid joints and the rubber pads on his feet let him pull of a lot of dope samurai poses.

Only negative I've encountered is there's a lot of tabs and flaps to re-align when posing him in bot mode but overall he's a solid Bludgeon and a rad robot toy.

>>6442127
I've got GCreation's set and despite owning it for a few months at this point, I have yet to actually combine them. Guess I've just been a bit wary of the task, I dunno.

It's a decent looking set overall though. I'm not a big fan of the legs on most of them. The thighs on most of them are kinda scrawny and the knee articulation feels and looks a bit odd (not-Swoop being the major exception) and aside from not-Grimlock, I'm not a big fan of the faces. That being said, combined mode (despite not having actually done it yet) is what sold me on GCreation over TowWorld. Both suffer stability issues from what I hear but GCreations' effort just looks more cohesive and properly gets the whole "bestial rage" vibe down. I absolutely LOVE the combined mode head. ToyWorld's offering just looks too... I dunno, "heroic", which is something the Dinobots have never been about. It looks like Superion were made of dinosaurs.

>>6442377
I like mine a lot too, thought on mine the turret pops off easily and I had to reconfigure some of the track lengths in order for him to allow them to actually reach enough to hook together.

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>>6442105
>GP
Have fun playing with this in the nursing home.

>>6442188
That's cool and all but I feel like WeiJaing has already given us a better Hound by retooling the absolute fuck out of the official mold.

It really goes a long way to show how much better Hasbro's figures could be, even if they had only half of extra engineering and paintwork WJ added, and with their ability to produce much higher numbers and offset costs, they could still probably offer them at reasonable prices.

>>6442339

toydojo still has the regular one in stock.

>>6442377

Sounds like you got a good one then. Lot of people have been complaining of issues.

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>>6442377
>>6442390
Man, I really wish I could like him, but that waist design just sucks. The waist joint should have been above the skirt armor. Ideally, it could have been a ball joint that allowed for an ab crunch too while giving a different design for the extendo spine. Maybe then you could turn his waist with the turret on.

I want to love him, but he's full of good ideas marred by both too little and too much engineering. Doesn't help that mine was missing his shins armor too.

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Iron factory is crushing it right now

>>6442452
>but he's full of good ideas marred by both too little and too much engineering

I agree. Transforming him into tank mode for the firs time was a tense experience. Even with the instructions I was still scared of hamhanding him into bits.

Tank mode is sold though, I'm amazed how solid it feels despite all the pieces being held on stalks/rails.

I see a lot of mixed responses to Cross Dimension on here.

While I own Rioter Despotron and Striker Noir and planon picking up Thunder Erebus, I'm interested in hearing some of the issues people have with the line.

Most of what I hear tends to be the aesthetic but some people also criticize how good the articulation is?

Why is good articulation a bad thing?

I personally enjoy the line because the shape and design of the molds themselves carry a lot of character, and the articulation helps that even further.

>>6442461
Is that a thigh swivel on him or just where the two pieces are glued together?

>>6442696
There's a swivel, but it's a bit tight.

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Just got my hands on Bridge Watcher here. He was actually on sale where I got him (Fuck the Canadian dollar), and I've been meaning to get a small Shockwave since I missed out on almost all of Generations so far.

>>6442680
People complain about articulation because mire articulation means more joints which means more poses they can be shit at making for photos. Basically people dont like him because they are shit at posing.

Also the aesthetic isnt quite chug nor mp so it doesn't fit most collections.

>>6442734
>>6442680
Too much articulation can be too much of a good thing for actually playing with a toy. For posing it's no problem, but when you're just fiddling around with your toys and constantly have to adjust multiple joints and realign multiple panels, it gets really annoying.

It's a silly complain/remark to make about a toy, but I think it's valid in some ways. It certainly shouldn't stop designers from putting as much articulation into something as they can, though.

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>>6442680
I have Manus, Noir, and Rioter, and I love all of them, but there's plenty to be iffy on. The aesthetic is it's own thing and if you aren't on board from the pics, you're not gonna like the fig. I'd also say that that the Striker truck could look more solid, but I really like it for Noir since it looks so jagged and mean. Articulation though is a bullshit thing to bitch about, so they'd have to be contrarians or retards to whine about it.

My biggest gripe isn't with Cross dimension, but with Maketoys in general using that fucking hand rail system. All it does is make sliding the weapon into a hand more tedious. Plus if the weapon gets bumped or rotated hard enough, it could potentially bend the hand rails out of shape and prevent them from holding any weapons. It's bad enough that they have that crap hand design that barely looks good as a fist and looks ugly with the fingers uncurled, but then they have to make the weapons needlessly difficult to get into them. It's not impossible, but it shouldn't have to be so demanding for absolutely no gain, especially the fucking smokestack hatchets. They should just have swappable 5mm compatible hands so you can have ones that look good uncurled and you can just slide the weapons into the fists without having to dedicate more than 10 seconds to it.

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>>6442729
I'm really digging all the details for such a small figure, though the joints are REALLY stiff.

>>6442680
Because muh classics prime and it looks like an anime revoltech reeeeee etc.

>>6442762

Yeah, IF's always a little on the tighter end of tolerances for their figures. Good stuff though.

>>6442680
The real issue with CD is they haven't shown
whose coming after the PM Prime.

>>6442793
Fucking this.

At first I thought their Cybertron Starscream was going to be Cross Dimension but then I found out it was in Masterpiece scale and I died inside.

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>>6442461
Man, seeing the evolution of Iron Factory's engineering makes me yearn for V2s of some of their older stuff. Windblade and the Arcees could use some more articulaion and Perceptor and Soundwave need better alt modes.

Sadly that'll probably never happen due to the immeasurable shit storm it would cause.

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>>6442800
>Sadly that'll probably never happen due to the immeasurable shit storm it would cause.

Windblade and Arcee could be remade in bigger sizes and sans animu uguu faces without much issue I'd think. Soundwave and Perceptor could also probably get remade with their ACTUAL altmodes and get a pass.

And I say this already owning IF Arcee/Windblade.

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KO UPSCALES W H E N ?

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$60 for MP Seeker sized limbs? If Silverbolt doesn't suck I'm in.

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>>6442053
Madblender is mad with guns

>>6443021
Better than every G1 accurate Mixmaster.

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>>6443021
>TFC

>>6442812
Hey fuck you I like the animu faces

>>6442974
we have planet x, there's no need.

>>6443060

So do I. But that doesn't mean I totally wouldn't want versions with both uguu faces and more comic-accurate ones.

Shit, I wish we'd get some waifu-ized robots too.

>>6443064
>FOC shit

lol nope

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I fucked up guys,

I fucked up real bad.

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>>6443076
My nigga. I'm really loving this sample Shockwave. Though he's more of a desktoy than something I'd display with the rest of my transformers (due to the scale).

>>6443076

Only with Sussanoo, and only because his QC seems to be a shot in the fucking dark.

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>>6443080
>(due to the scale).

I dunno, I love varying scales. It lets you do fun things.

I hope they make a Susan 2.0 and fix all the issues.

>>6443081
Mine seems fine. So far.

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>>6443083
I really like taking the Deluxe jets and putting them with Legends, and random monsters scale well. I've been tempted to get the Fanshobby beaver guys because he looks so rad

>>6443057
My man that was Hercules that shit was groundbreaking for 3p. TFC sure has fallen though

>>6443105
TFC's posiedon is like, the best all around 3p combiner ever.

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>>6443104
He'd be such a fuckhuge kind of robot next to IF though

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This is the first 3p figure I want completely out of coolness. I don't care about this iteration of SS but god DAMN is he animoo af

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>>6443109

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>>6443108
He's a real nice huge for Classics, but I think Legends would be dwarfing Devastators

>>6443107
Hasn't it taken 3 years to finally complete?

>>6443105
TFC is on the upswing after years of crap. Poseidon is fantastic and Trinity Force looks good so far.

Satan is too early to tell.

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>>6443110

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>>6443115
$140 just feels a little rough for such an out of place character

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>>6443120

>>6443118
agreed
if it was less than $100, I would have already ordered one

>>6443113
What's your point? Quality takes time.

>>6442063
It's the best Reflector hands down. Some parts of the transformation are a little frustrating because of the lack of clearance but it never feels like you're gonna break something so it's okay. The non transforming lens is pure genius too.

>>6443144
Non PARTSforming lens. Fucking phone.

>>6443109
It looks pretty awesome but I ain't buying it until we know for sure if that rumor about MT going down is true or not. I'd rather have no Galaxy Force MP at all than just one out of place figure and I really doubt any other company is gonna make some.

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>>6443152
The rumor was only started because they weren't at a con, there's still the US TFcon coming in a few months, I'm sure Maketoys is fine.

I wish third party deluxes were a thing.

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When will it be out?

It is almost the end of the month already and they are supposed to ship UM in August?

>>6443196
Maybe they'll just ship them together or something

So what exactly happened to Benscollectables? He had to get his legs removed?

>>6443250
The repeal of Obama care.

Be ready to see toy reviewers dying on the street soon if GOP got its way with healthcare.

>>6443305
Isn't he Canadian? One of Justin Trudeau's bros?

>>6443196
Chosen Prime says the 28th

>>6443250
He's suffering from spinal degeneration, had to have disk surgery on his spine but it didn't help, he still has his legs but can't walk anymore so he's confined to a wheelchair that fans helped pay for.

All this happened as soon as his third child was born so he's basically fucked.

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3rd Party noob here. I got the MPP10 & it's the best damn toy I've ever owned! What other good 3rd party transformers scale well with oversized Optimus? Is there a oversized Jazz or Barracde?

>>6443338
No and no.

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>>6443338
Fuk you phone!

So what's the next best oversized after Optimus?

>>6443344
What's that SWAT bot beside Optimus? Some KO?

>>6443118
he fought primus with two moons.

he fought galvatron!

>>6443080
>sample Shockwave
Get out, shill

>>6443112
To Classics he'd be a monster.

To Legends he'd basically be a GOD.

I'll probably get either him or their Doublecross just for coolness.

>>6443120
>>6443122
Although these pictures make me lean Grotusque.

>We're getting a new official Predaking
Oh good. Now we can have people winging about how it's better than Feral Rex just like they do about the official Devy

>>6443311
>white
>One of Justin Trudeau's bros
That's illegal in Canada

>>6443435
I'd love to be proven wrong, but there's next to no chance that the official will be better than Feral Rex. Which in itself would be an accomplishment considering how shit Feral Rex is.
I'm not sure who would do Predaking justice. Iron Factory probably, but it'll be Legends and $250+. New TFC might do okay trying their hand at it again, but I'm afraid that the sculpt will be to round and soft like their Seacons and Road Caesar. Maketoys would make it stylized and while it'll look like pure sex it just wouldn't fill in Predaking for me. Warbotron/GT/TFM maybe?

>>6443448
>how shit Feral Rex is

Well considering he's one of the best on the market, you're basically calling every combiner ever made shit. I know I'm feeding the troll here but c'mon bud, next you're gonna say the Earth is flat.

>>6442744
I can kind of see where you're coming from and I agree somewhat in the case of Rioter as his hipskirts are pretty fiddly have a tendency to catch onto his hips when moving his legs around. His shoulderpads also move around on their armatures too much as well, and repositioning them can get kind of old. However, other than those examples I don't think that the amount of articulation on Striker or Rioter is excessive. The majority of their joints have just the right amount of tightness to them where they move only when you want them to, so if you're just fooling around with either of them they won't end up turning into a floppy mess.

>>6442680
So to answer your question, good articulation is not a bad thing, but excessive articulation can be. However when speaking about the Cross Dimension line so far I don't think it has passed into that threshold. Chances are whoever is complaining about it likely don't own the figures and/or don't like the general aesthetic of the line.

>>6443463
Quantron, Guardia, Gravity Builder, and Poseidon are much better combiners in my book. Even Toy World Devy is better if you're into parts-forming.
Honestly, Feral Rex only edges out against the peers of his time: Giant, Hercules, and Intimidator.

>>6443478
As an addendum, I didn't mention the Dinobot combiners because I know they're pretty much the worst. You know that they're the worst. We all know.
The Toyworld Dinobots are pretty nice CHUG toys though, if you forget about the combining aspect.

>>6443448
No matter how shitty it is, people will say it's better just like with Devy, even if the official one is objectively the worst by far.
>>6443478
No, Giant and Intimidator are both miles better than Feral Rex. And Hercules only looses because it gets floppy after a while.

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>>6443500
This. A lot of people don't buy 3rd party/MP just because they can't afford it so they'll latch on to excuses as to why mainline shit is better.

>>6443575
>because they can't afford it
I don't know how correct that is. That just seems like reductive bullshit. I don't even really know people who ONLY collect mainline or 3P.
If there are, I'm willing to bet it has more to do with familiarity and price/value rather than just not being able to afford it.

>>6443582
Post the webm so we can see how low energy it is

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A foot tall megs to fight your OS prime? Why not!

>>6443601
What are there 3 active MP scales now?
Post MP 10
Wei Jang
Toy World

Did I miss any?

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>>6443614
Toyworld scale is retarded. It's neither intentionally OS or trying to match the current MP scale. It's basically a special snowflake scale trying to be internally consistent.

Wei Jang is like this, but it's all just for the sake of novelty. It's not trying to fit in or improve anything, it's just "Fuck it make it big".

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Hey anons, MT Downbeat will most probably be my first third party purchase but I was wondering since I am kinda low on money right now, how long do these kind of figures stay available for ? Am I taking a risk by waiting a month or two before I get him ?

>>6443654
>how long do these kind of figures stay available for ?

It's really a crapshoot. Some things will stick around damn near forever (unpopular things, garbage things), some will sell out instantly but get reissued (MMC Tarn), others will sell out and then never be seen again, etc.

>all of this railing against Feral Rex

A year ago you fags were saying it was one of the best combiners ever, period. Now the only difference is Gravity Builder and Poseidon exist. What changed to mess with your opinions, Anon? Rex is still easily in the top, though your ordering differs depending on person.

>>6443716
A new hastak one was announced so the brandfags will flock to the playschool version and pretend it's a quality product. Same thing happened when devastator came out.

>>6443716
I've been trying to tell people that it was shit for at least a year now

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>>6443730
>solid joints
>MMC mixed CHUG/IDW aesthetics
>Voyager sized individual 'bots, none of this MP only shit thats been plauging 3P's
>shit

???

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>>6443716
>Gravity Builder and Poseidon exist
There you go. Perspective, it's a bitch.
Seriously, think about it. Feral Rex came out at a time where the only comparisons were: Energon trash, DLC polished Energon trash, G1, Giant, Hercules, and Intimidator. Remember, we thought Hercules was the hottest shit when it came out? (I still think the tread arms are the best way to do Devy in all honesty) People were paying a $100 a figure for that shit. Things have changed now. 3P figures are improving. The paint, engineering, articulation, everything. I think HasTak's Combiner Wars really changed my perspective too. Not because of the toys themselves necessarily, but because of those goddam genius combiner pegs/ports. It really makes the previous combining methods look like the sloppiest dog shit.

>>6443716
Poseidon is easily my favorite. Interesting team with a lot of personality, each individual figure is great on its own, colors are just the right kind of gaudy, scramble city mechanic is actually incorporated without fucking anything else over, combined form is dead fucking solid and can actually hold poses, transformations between all modes on each of the individual bots is intuitive enough and fairly pleasant instead of a total chore like many combiners. Combined mode elbow articulation is a little lacking but it's enough to still give plenty of posing options so it's not the worst.

Rex shows his age a little but only by comparison to sets like Poseidon who have had the advantage of a company learning from previous offerings. He's still otherwise one of the best combiners we've ever gotten, which says a lot when he was one of the earliest sets and was MMC's first attempt at it. I'm with you anon, I just don't understand the sudden hate for him.

>>6443752

Being 2nd or 3rd is hardly a bad place to be. Especially now, when other competition to be the best actually exists. There are a SHIT TON of 3P combiners now, and theres still only 3, maybe 5 at the least, ones that are good.

GB, FR, Poseidon. MAYBE Quantron. Not-Road Caeser will probably end up good, if only because it's using the same connection system as Poseidon apparently, judging by how people can use Laster as a leg for the Not-Seacons. And what else is there out there thats decent? Hulkie? And Probably IF's Bruticus.

It's a really, really tiny pool of good combiners, man. Especially with how many of them are out there.

>>6443716
It wasn't even that long ago
Like a month or two ago I saw so much praise for it to the point that I almosted picked it up myself

>>6443752
>but because of those goddam genius combiner pegs/ports
If only HasTak could get their fucking QC under control and stop using garbage plastics. They offered a simple yet elegant system to combiner pegs/ports but it means fuck-all when the figures themselves can't hold together for shit.

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This little OP figure is so fun.

>>6443711
Well then, goodbuy wallet, thanks anon

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>>6443799
Doesn't stop me from being retarded though.

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Run OP! The bayshit is coming for you!

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OH GOD IT SUCKS SO MUCH WHO WOULD BUY THIS AGHHH

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And the day is saved! Thanks Master Made!

>>6443144
>>6443148
Would it also be worth it to go in on their Hover & Bomber set for the additional $20? I know they're scaled to the old legends size class, of which I at least have Warpath (I thought that I had Cosmos and Wheelie floating around too, but I could have sold those off at some time).

>>6443811
Is that 3A Starscream's arm? Did it break?

>>6443818
Yes and no. His arms detach as apart of his gimmick. He can swap either arm for the spike missile arm he had in the movie.

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>>6443809
>>6443806
>Bayshit is literally The Thing of Transformers, trying assimilate it with it's hideous aesthetics

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Doesn't look terrible. Just a more high end version of the CW toy.

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Kibble seems a lot more restrained than their combaticons

>>6443859
What about the plane-mode kibble?

>>6443865
Oh it's super shit. Like bricks under airplanes levels of shit. Not any worse relative to the official releases, but that's mainline stuff so expectations are lower.

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>>6443865
This isn't that bad. No glaring walls.

>>6443867
Has plane-mde kibble ever been done with grace? Not just in 3P but in general? I can't think of anything.

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>>6443865
This is pretty shit.

>>6443478
Quantron and Guardia are objectively worse for a variety of reasons. Gravity Builder is better in some regards, and worse in others, depending on how you want to angle it (trash robot modes with kibble supreme and restricted posing, but a solid combined form that's on par with Rex). Can't comment on Poseidon but he looks to be solid in all modes so that's not a surprise.

Feral Rex shits on combiners from his time period and still holds up well.

>>6443871
MT guardia was extremely fucking solid by account of every review I ever watched of him. Barring aesthetics gripes, what is your issue with him.

>>6443870
All the stuff in black looks pretty good I think. Then you move a few cm down and it just shits the bed. Big ups tho, I've seen worse for that pricepoint.

>>6443877
Again, not too bad considering the official toy and it's not like anyone gives a fuck about the jet mode anyways.

>>6443305
Except he's from UK, CNN

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Finally got my preorder guy after he's been in stock for 2 weeks on Tfsource

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>>6443911

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>>6443913
His battery gimmick is good

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>>6443914
and necessary he falls over without the batteries

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>>6443916
My first impression is good god his colors are gorgeous in person, They just pop. The white is a glowing white and the blue is perfect. I adore his colors

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>>6443919
Poseability bummer is no bicep and no waist. The waist I didn't know wasn't there. Bummer but hey, $25 shipped is reasonable

>>6443875

My torso tabs needed shaved down to fit and the cab holes for the pegs snapped because it's translucent plastic, but he's a solid bugger.

Quantron is too, but you need the replacement parts and the backpack upgrade kit to push him over the edge.

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>>6443920
This version has ugly blue Laserbeak known as Bird Bomber. No biggie for me I don't actually give a shit about Laserbeak

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>>6443925
and he came with ugly orange Ratbat known as Flamebat. Also I don't really care about Ratbat.

I mainly got this version because the original sold out so fast, and was going for the IF prices on Ebay. So for the $25 I don't mind ugly cassettes

>>6443875
You're asking an honest question, and I'll give an honest answer, even if it breaks your "barring aesthetic gripes" rule, since that's.. exactly my main issue with him.

To play by your rules first though; too many panels and pegs that come loose when trying to pose him, on shoulders / calves / ribs. Definitely not a dealbreaker for most or even me since I stomach the issues with Gravity Builder just fine.

But then there's the look. I admit, he actually looks solid as a combiner, but the color scheme rolling with the goofy arm-kibble appearance is just painful. Part of me adores how the ambulamps arm looks almost like armor, but given it's not matching on the other side in any real poses (notable when you try to make him flex or point, as the ambulance starts to unhinge to allow it), it's.. offputting.

Then there's what really breaks it for me; the "ehn" robot modes. Only amazing one is (like most combiner sets) the body, the rest are mediocre sans the garbage motorcycle.

Vehicle modes are fine, they knock it out of the park.

When I compare it to Rex though, Rex does fantastic in 2/3 of the modes, and the worst is their alt modes, which is still pretty solid for the most part. I like that the mold reuse gives a degree of uniformity, and the worst complaint I have about Rex is that his range of elbow motion is somewhat limited, although it can apparently be rectified with a modification, but it's not a big improvement.

The only combiners worth bringing up are Gravity Builder, Poseidon, Rex, and Constructor. Maketoys does some fantastic stuff, but sadly they picked a bad combiner (aesthetically) to put work in to, as Defensor isn't popular, visually interesting, or sporting an appealing theme (WEW RESCUE VEHICLES). Compare that to the other popular choices and it's not hard to see why they're lauded as such.

I'll apologize and point out I was wrong when I said it was objectively worse, with regards to combined mode. Definitely not in all modes, though.

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>>6443928
He is a big boy though, I've always liked Soundwave as being big, but this could be too big.

I didn't take a pic of "streetlight mode" but he makes a pretty tall streetlamp

>>6443929
Eh, alright. I think Rex's aesthetic, choice of plastic, and deco are horrible. I feel like 3P's have "evolved" in aesthetics and Rex was left in the dust.

>>6443924

I forgot to add that fanprojects Dinoking is actually very solid as well and able to hold both of his oversized weapons with little issue. It's just that he's a cluster fuck to manipulate from the waist down. Too much shit on the thighs and the legs are too fucking big and get in the way. You can sort of get them out of the way of one another but it defaults to the widest a stance. Also the head just flips around. It's a shame since FP did a great job with the connectors being one of the most solid and intuitive to latch and unlatch.

>>6443940
I think the only combiner that has usurped Rex in all regards is Poseidon, but not entirely until we get a God Neptune recolor, since that'll give both combiners a color-matching option. That's probably the only bad thing about Poseidon, his colors, as everything else looks utterly amazing. Robot, alt, and combined modes look and pose better.

I know nobody asked but I'll compare Builder to Rex straight up - Builder's robot modes are... hit or miss. Some are pretty decent, two are TERRIBLE (I can't currently remember and I'm sure as fuck not taking him apart to recall), and a couple were really solid. I can't blame GT for Builder's inability to do a lot of poses with his legs (given they really wanted to stick with a shovel/truck foot), but... fuck does it make him hard to like. Rex poses much more powerfully despite having a more dated joint system, although I'd probably sing a different tune if GB just fucking had fully ratcheted hips. They're snug, but the fact is he'll still start to sway with a bit of effort, and given how heavy his arms are it's not difficult to make him decide to go for a dive.

>>6443911 >>6443913 >>6443914 >>6443916 >>6443919 >>6443920 >>6443925 >>6443928 >>6443935

Looks like after getting Bridge Watcher I'm finding myself drinking the legends Kool-Aid. What do you have to say in regards to the UT Palm Collection offerings?

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>>6443964
I only got the Weirdwolf Chromedome pack and Chromedome was horrible. But Weirdwolf is incredible.
I want to try another two pack to see if they're all this way. But honestly the Hardhead pack they both look good. Chromedome just has no neck and tall shoulders and a transformation that really doesn't make sense in parts for certain things to lock. He's counter intuitive.

But mufuggin Weirdwolf is the shit in both modes. He leg transformation allows for a lot more fun in pup mode, everything can peg together to be static, but unpegged is really fluid and fun

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>>6443973
He has a gap in this leg that gets perfectly filled in for gun storage in bot mode

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>>6443964
>>6443973
I love them. They have their problems, but I'm a sucker for tiny robots with even TINIER robot pilots.

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>>6443976
and stats and headmaster, he's perfect.

Chromedome I don't even want to get out because hes just a turd, His vehicle mode looks like an ugly El Camino station wagon

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>>6443980
CD is a bit weaker but I still like him.

>>6443984
Notice he's almost completely hidden. I can't stand CD. I'm really curious about the other 2 packs. What are the power rankings?

>>6443985
I have no idea, I'll have to dig them out later we just moved so they're boxed up.

>>6443157
Nope, that rumor has nothing to do with the fact they weren't at SDCC. It started with a post from some supposed insider on a chinese board.

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>>6443980
>>6443984
I guess here's the good of CD

Great paint, he has the chest gimmick (but mine looks like his power stat was painted over to look stronger)

He has bicep swivel

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>>6444022
He can do this

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>>6444026
Last good thing, his paint and face look good.
First bad thing, his goofy face has thus strange slope back. His shoulders are at this uncomfortable spot by his neck

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>>6444030
Every damn time I move his arms his ugly chest flaps up. His shoulders are so tight, which is fine, but his dumb chest doesn't peg into anything

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>>6444032
Transformation is dumb, the feet flip around like this but the way the legs lock together is that little trapezoid lock. But then the flaps have to cover it

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>>6444035
So that slides over that, but the the flaps have to grind past bits and it locks, but there's a lot of plastic scraping and grinding

>>6443962
Hopefully G2 Builder has some improvements beside his low energy drills.

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>>6444037
and then look at this ugly truck. It's a truck with some tan shit in the bed

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>>6444040
Goofy! This is goofy,z his wheels are a joke and only roll if you manually rotate each one with your fingers

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>>6444044
Just wanna punch this stupid bastard. I got the pack because I like Chromedome but ended up loving Weirdwolf.

So to me this line if for good Decepticons, which is good because there aren't a lot of good Decepticons in this scale (yet)

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>>6444048

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Off topic question here

Does this board have its own notorious shitposter personality? Because I keep getting ISP banned at random and literally all I do here is lurk the scale model threads.

>>6444038
Full hip-ratchets, tabs for forearms on robot modes to clean them up MUCH better, hip skirts on the robots that are missing 'em (one or two lack it and their range of motion is restricted as a result), horrible neck-kibble. Fix those and GB will jump another notch in my bitchy book.

>>6444060
I get region banned on mobile at seemingly random times. TFG has a lot of shitposting though so maybe ask them.

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>>6444060
Are you using your phone to browse? If you're using 3G etc it just assigns you a random IP and alot of them are permabanned. Or your housemates/family/anybody you share an IP with are fucking around.

>>6443962
>hat's probably the only bad thing about Poseidon, his colors

Seacon base colors are great. Also almost every combiner is, by design, clashing in some way far as colors go.

>>6444123
I really, really want a God Neptune version.

>>6444126

We know, Anon, and I hope you get it. It's a nice color scheme. But all of the combiners have a very haphazard color scheme about them, is all I was saying.

I need to look into getting Poseidon myself, but I was hoping there'd be a box set with a discount or something at some point. Doesn't TFC usually do box sets?

>>6444137
He's not who you were initially commenting to, that'd be me. There's a reason Devastator is the most popular and iconic combiner, although I won't say the sole reason is his unified scheme. It does help though.

Honestly the only thing I really wish about Poseidons colors is that I think he would have just looked better in the actual shades from the G1 Seacons. Their attempts to sort of make a more "mature" version of the color scheme or whatever by making the colors less vibrant just made it look a little worse. The brighter magenta on the original, to me, is just a better looking color.

>>6444177

That would be nice. They kind of botched the shark dudes colors too, he's just not in the right colors.

>>6443869
Masterpiece Seekers and DotM Leader Starscream come to mind. I'm certain there's a bunch I'm forgetting.

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one day this toy will come out

Am I missing something or has there literally never been a good Blitzwing, official or otherwise.

>Original toy is a brick, but can't fault it for that
>I have TR one but its about what you'd expect for $25, decent but leaves a lot to be desired and doesn't really wow, plus I'm not one much for the headmaster gimmick
>DX9 Gewalt has a crappy box of a tank mode, parts forms the turret and doesn't wow me on any level
>KFC Blitzwing is awesome except for the fact that they dropped the ball off the Empire State Building in terms of QC and not listening to any advice whatsoever from the people who got test shots

I just want a good Blitzwing, having 3 such radically different modes is awesome

>>6444477
You're missing the T30, but it has its own problems.

>>6444484
I didn't even bother to mention it because I have never heard anything but horrible reviews of it and it looks like shit to top it all off

>>6444498
Name?

This might sound like a dumb question but why 3P companies (not KO) haven't made TR compatible products? You'd think that by not giving a shit about copyright they could fill the gaps that hastak has left such as Apeface or Snapdragon.

>>6444526
There's probably more money to be made selling stand alone figures than upgrades or companions to Official figures. Company's are targeting the high end collectors market with Masterpiece alikes since those seem to be the hot ticket items and there's simply to many characters to be made officially right now. Couple that with the fact that upgrades and add-on more often cost as much or more than the figure it goes with and many would see it as a bigger gamble with too small a reward.

>>6444509
https://tfsource.com/mech-planet/hot-soldiers/hs03T-soundtrack/

>>6444526
because they're too busy making shitty MP figures. PE is the only the one smart enough to still capitalize on upgrade kits.

What are some good 3rd party triple changers?

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>>6444526

X2 toys is doing a TR Jetfire and also new headmaster bodies with articulation, storage units, and some other weird shit. They're just extremely slow.

>>6444535
>>6444549
It didn't mean upgrades, I know those are being made already, I meant something like this >>6444553 a whole new toy that is also compatible with the official gimmick

>>6444552

The Springer Wars are currently raging with some already out and some on the way, I personally have the Unique Toys one and absolutely love it, one of my favorite 3rd party figures but there's several that honestly all seem good

Both of the Blitzwings that are out are kind of iffy, FansToys has one coming soon that seems like it will end up being the best

I know there's been some Astrotrains and at least one of Octane and Sandstorm but none of them have looked good enough to me for me to really look into them

I had the old Fansproject Broadside back in the day and really loved it at the time but I eventually sold it and I think it would seem a little dated now but it's definitely not bad at all if you like the look of it

>>6444612
They probably want you to buy their products and only their products. It's also why some companies have other unique designs, like the Maketoys hand rails or the numerous combiner ports. Shame too because I'd love to mix and match figures from different makers, but that's never gonna happen.

What are the absolute best figures in the $100-150 range?

>>6444655
It would be smart of them to start to directly compete with hastak, since I see so many people whining about X figure of X line not being made, you'd think 3Ps would already be jumping on that boat

>>6444691
MT despotron.
FT Sovereign.
MM Apollo.

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>>6444438
>my order of 3P stuff is being held up entirely because of waiting for official Deluxes that were SUPPOSED to be in the US this month

>>6444722
>2/3rds of these aren't even available at their retail prices anymore

>>6444477
>Am I missing something or has there literally never been a good Blitzwing

It is very hard to turn from a sleek, thin plane into a giant box of a tank, and into a big-ass robot made of boxes, and still somehow come out looking good. He's got the same issues that Astrotrain does, pretty much nothing on either of his alt modes can be used on the other so they can't cheat the parts much if at all, and they also need to finagle a fucking robot out of this mess somehow as well.

The best you're gonna hope for is a decent robot mode, and one decent alt mode, with the last one being shit. Thats all most triple changers can hope for, really.

>>6442066
Opinions on Chaos Paladin, anyone?

I know someone with one (don't own one myself) and got to play with for half an hour or so.
I was going to buy one for the longest time but kept putting it off, but I was frankly underwhelmed when I got to play with it.
I think it might just be the partsforming, even though it's highly configurable/customisable, which is a bonus.

>>6443817
I asked this the other day and was told yes. So fuck it, let's BOTH do it, anon! Hover & Bomber buttbuddies.

>>6442127
I don't own either but I've heard ToyWorld's set is pretty garbage. The individual bots (especially Swoop) don't look particularly great either.

>>6442219
Elita-1 has a new head and weapons though, anon, and you can pay about the same price for the pack with Elita-1 and then sell her separately for extra cash. You know, if you want to do that.

Plus once you get Arcee, you'll want Nightbird and Elita-1. Trust me.

>>6442812
>sans animu uguu faces
Anon pls, I agree with >>6443060 (even though you said you like them too).

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>>6444744
>It is very hard to turn from a sleek, thin plane

>>6443064
I think you meant GCreations Shuraking and ToyWorld Clusterfuck. Planet X is FOC and doesn't combine.

>>6444764

Well, ok, if they used the animation model they might get somewhere, because that doesn't look like a plane so much as a box with wings.

>>6443021
Was playing with mine the other day. It's still a pretty nice figure. I'm surprised how well the Hercules bots hold up. They may not be as complicated, detailed or even as accurate as some of the newer third-party Constructicons but geez, TFC did a pretty damn good job at the time.

...it's a shame the only good thing they've made since is Poseidon and, arguably, Raging Bull (though I'm still holding out for someone else to make a better-engineered Road Caesar set, even if it's unlikely).

>>6443118
I agree that the price seems a tad high (though it doesn't seem completely bad - it looks somewhat worth it) but I wouldn't agree that the price seems too high because of who or what he is.

>>6443125
The point is they put out legions of crap in the meantime.

>>6443144
Better than FansToys though? Full disclosure, I'm not a FansToys fanboy (nor do I think all of their products are great), but it certainly looks better overall, especially as a camera.

That being said, I like how Maketoys' Visualizers have no partsforming (unless you count the flash) and a proper shutter button, though I think the partsforming on FansToys' version works because I like the weapons and the proportions of the camera seem better.

Hmmm, decisions, decisions.

>>6444744
Honestly the KFC version could've been great, 9/10 tank mode and still a very very good jet mode with a great robot mode. Crying shame how they shit the bed on all the little stuff

>>6444007
Anon, I think you mean TFcon, not SDCC.

I haven't heard about the Chinese rumour but I had seen a lot of speculation on TFW, where other people were saying that there was a good reason they weren't there (I can't remember the exact details, but it was some sort of disagreement between Maketoys and someone else or something like that, and so they were a no-show because they didn't want to be there, not because they're dead).

I think Maketoys has likely been hurt pretty badly by KOs recently, which is a shame. Once I have some more money, there are a handful of their products which I'd love to buy.

>>6444489
The major complaints of the T30 from most reviews iirc:
>Non-geewun (up to your taste)
>Shoulders not-locking(fixable with effort)
>Paint transfer from helmet to nosecone (SOL)

I think it's a pretty okay mold mainly due to it deviating from the geewun design, anything that uses >>6444764 will mostly likely end up blocky with kibble.

I don't read the comics but I wonder if IDW has a sleeker redesign for Blitzwing, maybe some 3P can get on that if it exists.

>>6443962
Call me a heathen but I prefer Hercules to Feral Rex. I ended up selling Feral Rex. He LOOKS great and playing with one or two of the figures at a time was fun, but I found it cumbersome to play with the entire set at once, posing or even just moving Rex was a royal pain in the ass (the wings and waist skirt kept falling off because he isn't easy to pick up from anywhere but the back or waist), and he was just far too chunky for my taste.

Don't get me wrong, I think Feral Rex is generally fantastic, but I personally want more of a toy experience than just a big-ass thing that is fiddly and difficult to pose but looks great on a shelf.

Also, his sword handle kinda sucks ass.

>>6444778

That sounds like KFC's MO though: Could've been great, but shits the bed every time due to QUALITY that'd make 70's cartoon producers vomit with disgust.

>>6444771
>though I'm still holding out for someone else to make a better-engineered Road Caesar set

Honestly, it's using the same joint system as Poseidon, one figure is a straight up reshell of the other, and the whole thing is gonna be half the cost. Unless they unbelieveably fuck up Blacker, we should be good.

And since this is the FIRST combiner I'm going in on before it's fully out, I hope they don't fuck up Blacker. Laster came out fine (other than the windshield wiper issue, I guess), the other guy should be fine as he's literally just a reshell/remold of Laster, and the only thing to worry about would be Blacker.

>>6443856
>>>6443880
>>6443859
>>6443868
>>6443870
They honestly look quite good to me.

The kibble really isn't any worse than most other jets, including MP-11 (watch the TCP video with Air Raid compared to MP-11) and it at least looks fairly sleek.

My one big worry is the tail fin section on both, because of how it's connected with the long series of rods. Hopefully those are done up in diecast so they don't break easily.

>>6444040
It looks like there are some valid complaints but good god, anon, you really seem to have a dislike for Chromedome in general despite you saying otherwise.

>>6444060
Jin aside, I don't know of any off the top of my head. There is at least one I've seen in these threads but I couldn't give you a name, just that I've seen them shitposting a lot.

>>6444418
>Masterpiece Seekers
>kibble with grace
S-sure, anon.

>>6444747
Sorry, Anon, already pulled the trigger without them. Did add in the replacement parts for Ironwill since I do have plans to get Stubborn Buffet when he releases next month.

>>6444553
It looks cool but I still don't understand why a Headmaster Jetfire/Skyfire needs to exist.

That being said, if it's TR-compatible, that changes everything.

Anyone ever make a really nice tank Megatron? He always seems great as a tank

>>6444805
Well that's sad. You can't be my buttbuddy now because you broke my heart, anon.

>>6444791
Laster has various other issues too, such as having to manually install parts (I don't mind doing that but it feels like that should have been done in the factory), parts coming missing out of the box, some things not tabbing together perfectly, along with the windscreen wiper issue...

Don't get me wrong, I still want it, but along with hating Braver's head and the rear-view mirrors on the inside of the legs, as well as the Brainmaster gimmick just not being as good as the G1 or MP Star Saber toys, I'm just a bit unsure about them.

I'll make up my mind for sure when Blacker comes out. I can't justify going all-in on this set before we see how Blacker turns out, since TFC is notorious for fucking up torsos.

>>6444812
Spark Toys' new War Within one looks quite good. Not all that accurate but good nonetheless.

Other than that... I can't think of any, but I feel like they exist.

Bought FT Phoenix from some chink on eBay and now he's trying to get me pay extra for shipping even though his shipping was free (because he says it isn't in-stock and has to get it from an overseas supplier even though the auction said it was in-stock and they would ship it immediately when I paid).

Fucking eBay, I swear.

>>6444744
Honesty DX9's Chigurh or whatever he's called pulled it off perfectly. Great robot, perfect shuttle and steam engine modes.

>>6444797
Nah I'm just really bitchy. I really want Cupola because Chromedome looks awesome

>>6444832
Do it (and don't buy the KO so we can maybe not have Maketoys die? I dunno).

>>6444828
Not Blitzwing though, but sure. Kinda cheats with that partsforming panel (which literally didn't need to partsform) and it's not MP-style, but yeah, it looks good.

>>6444740
I think you mean the other way around. Apollo is easily found at his standard price, and Despotron is on sale for a hundo directly from MT themselves.

>>6444813
My butt is always available for buddying.

>>6444827
Cancel the order or tell him you dont want it, that sounds super fishy.

>>6444858
It absolutely does, yeah, but first I told him I wouldn't foot the cost and he would be breaking the rules to ask me to do so etc. etc.

So at the very least, he's hopefully scared. If it doesn't turn out, I'll get my money back and buy it from someone else.

>Decide today to finally go in on the Maketoys Visualizers which was ~$100 after shipping
>See that black ver. Quakeblasts are now rolling in stock at ~$80

And I thought I was going to be doing better.

>>6444820
>Laster has various other issues too, such as having to manually install parts (I don't mind doing that but it feels like that should have been done in the factory)

I agree there, but I also see it as a non-issue. It's not the first toy I've owned with "some assembly required", and even then, it's just putting tabs into a hole.

>parts coming missing out of the box

Now this I haven't heard about. Care to expand on it?

>some things not tabbing together perfectly, along with the windscreen wiper issue

Also hadn't heard of this, most tabbing issues I've seen were all people not tabbing it together correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqcyKaBY--M
wotafa review of Galaxy Meteor. Looks awesome if you've got any love for AEC.

>>6444949
>I agree there, but I also see it as a non-issue.
I also agree with you too, anon. My point is more just that it feels kinda cheap on TFC's part than anything.

In the TFW thread on Raging Bull, there are quite a lot of people who have mentioned that they have had it arrive without various light parts. Sometimes it's just one of the six headlight pieces. Sometimes it's one of the taillights. Sometimes it's multiple pieces.

Granted, it's only a handful of people in one thread on one website so it's hard to tell how widespread this issue actually is, but enough people were reporting it that it irked me.

And the Brainmaster head not being able to turn still kinda irks me too (mainly because I like and will use the Brainmaster gimmick rather than the ball-jointed head), though that's more of a knock against it than a turn-off for me.

Oh, and one last thing is the way the bicep swivels are cut off at diagonal angles by the squared-off shoulders. That's annoying, but again, not a major turn-off or anything.

As for it tabbing in, you may be right, but at the very least, it seems that certain things such as the leg panels can be kinda hard to tab in properly (i.e. they require a lot of force or something like that).

I do still want it but... I'm still thinking about it. I have other figure I want to get first, and I really wish Braver looked better. And then there's Blacker. They have to nail Blacker. If they do, I'll be more interested.

>>6444972
Is it just me or does Wotafa seem really cute? No homo, of course.

>>6444984
nigga you gay

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>>6444828
>Great robot, perfect shuttle and steam engine modes.

I disagree, Chigurh's Train mode is the worst of all three 3P Astrotrains.

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>>6444746
OP and orignator of that pic there.

I'm incredibly biased when it comes to stuff like Chaos Paladin because the whole armored mode/enhanced mode is my favorite play pattern of all time.

It's why I picked up KFC Simba and MP Starsaber and why I'll be picking up Thunder Erebus.

That being said the figure does have a few issues, mostly related to articulation and the tolerances of the PCC pegs and ports. The articulation in both Paladin mode and Chaos Mode can be somewhat limited and definitely shows its age.

But the best part of the toy is the versatility. I fucking love coming up with new arrangements and combinations like the one in the OP pic. Fuck, that one even gives him proper ankle tilts. It gets even crazier if you own multiple copies, similar to smashing the new Diaclone stuff together. I legit almost wish I owned another copy or two of this guy so I could pull off shit like this.

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Wotafa review:
https://youtu.be/vqcyKaBY--M

>>6445013
He's so fucking huge for no reason

>>6445013
Fuck, I don't need this but it looks so good.

Why couldn't this have been in their Cross Dimension scale? That would have been an instant buy.

>>6444983
>it seems that certain things such as the leg panels can be kinda hard to tab in properly

From what I've seen in reviews, it appears it's just a bitch to line it all up properly. Once you get it in it seems solid.

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>>6445033

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>>6445038
"tacticool"

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>>6445039

>>6444987
Nigga I'm straight as fuck.

>>6445013
>That fucking spring loaded leg gap cover

What the fuck, Maketoys you crazy bastards.

>>6445039
>>6445038
>>6445033
>>6445030
Eugh, I wanted to like this so much. I love the triple forming and the potential of it, but the reality is...not so hot.

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>>6445045

>>6444989
It's still pretty decent-looking though, even if it's not really G1 Astrotrain, but the figure is more Classics-style anyway.

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>>6445050

>>6445030
>>6445033
>>6445038
>>6445045

I admire their tenacity in trying to get this...Thing released, but they're gonna fold up after this one release.

>>6445049
Look at the TFW thread. It sounds like it turned out like a prototype. Bold Forms is not exactly knocking it out of the park, unfortunately. Their stuff LOOKS cool but is so decidedly average in-hand, from what I've seen and heard.

>>6445048
>fill in the back of the leg
>still give infinite knee bend

AMAZING

>>6445055
Well, it's not their only release so far and they're planning on putting out more, but I wouldn't be surprised if they fold eventually.

>>6445030
That MP10 upgrade kit is seriously the dumbest fucking thing

>I hate how my prime's forearms are a milimeter too long I'd rather have horrible fucking arm kibble instead

>>6445057
So long as the springs hold up over time and nothing disintegrates this is one of the best bits of engineering I've seen in a figure in a long fucking time.

This is RID Vehicon folding the entire roof of the car into the legs good.

>>6445059

Kinda sad about that. I like new companies popping up. I mean, look at Fans Hobby. They came out of nowhere, hit the ground running, have been producing top notch stuff every figure.

And then theres...These guys. Who are taking forever to put out one of the worst looking Megatron's, a void thats been double filled between Despotron and MP-36, depending on whose aesthetics you like more. I admire their tenacity, but they couldn't have chosen a worse time to deliver such a "meh" looking product.

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>>6445056
Silver paint would have been nice but even just better use of plastic. Look at fucking Rioter Despotron, he has barely any paint and I love him.

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>>6445013
>>6444972

>the head being hidden despite the helmet being visible in alt mode
>the way the hands fold out from the back thrusters
>the crazy spring loaded gap covers for the back of the legs that don't hamper the perfect articulation on the knees
>The working piston detail in the back
>a fucking ab crunch and waist swivel on the Galaxy Starscream design
>ez swap faces
>the ratchets on everything
>the range on all the joints

It's like whoever designed this whipped their dick out to show off. Galaxy Convoy fucking when?

>>6445084
Calling it now this is the sleeper hit of 2017 for 3p

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>>6445084
>Galaxy Convoy fucking when?
After Armada Prime. His toy sucks way more.

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>>6445084
I love mix and matched designs from that trilogy, Energon Megatron please

>>6445066
Agreed.

>>6445074
There was speculation (or maybe more than that) on TFW that it's just one guy hand-making them or something. I'm not so sure I believe that but I don't even know if it's currently available to buy outside of TFcon from the other week and it's taken Bold Forms years to get the thing out, so who knows?

Oh man, Motormaster was easily sadder though. He looks really good... and nothing tabs together. Not because of tolerances. He literally doesn't have tabs for the majority of stuff. It's sad.

>>6445013
I was not expecting that waist swivel.

>>6445013

Someone put a lot of love into this figure. Shame I never saw the series it's part of, or have any attachment to the character at all as a result

>>6445195

The short version is that he's DBZ Starscream. They had energy auras and everything, and the show had characters who would forgo their massive weaponry that hung off them so they could get into fist fights. He also has some absurd feats. IE: Tanking and soloing all the autobots, stealing a part of Primus's spark, becoming as large as Cybertron, gaining the ability to mass shift his body and limbs at will, so he was absolutely massive at the end of the show.
He was mostly successful until plot armor demanded Prime and Galvatron have a showdown. He ended up jobbing horribly to a powered up Galvatron who he was beating the shit out out of prior.

Odd that they didn't include a crown accessory for him though.

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>>6444498
Interesting design choice, the legs tab with a notch in the from and the back to hold solid together, but the whole back connection is just pushing against the arm, flexing the base. It works but in a warpy way

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>>6445224
GF Starscream's design also heavily borrows from Don Figueroa's War Within Starscream and there's a bunch of folks that get boners from that.

>>6445279
I don't know what it is about them, but the war within designs make me rock hard

>>6445285
It's because Don is an art god and we worship him.

Holy shit that starscream seems absolutely incredible

>>6445342
Now if only Maketoys could fix their Masterpiece-style Starscream. Those fuckings wings, man.

>>6445353
I don't get what the fuck they're doing with those hollow wings. For as bland as it looks it's a high fidelity figure in general until you turn it around and the back of the wings are doing a CW leader seeker impersonation

>>6445359
Agreed. If they just added a touch more detail and paint and fixed the backs of the wings, it'd be fantastic.

I had a look at the thread on TFW and some people were complaining, then others were complaining about them complaining, saying there are limits to plastic etc. etc.
Sure, but TakaraTomy got the wings right on fucking MP-03. You know, the grey-green mess. So why can't Maketoys do it?

It's US$70, apparently, which is a great price, but... fix the wings and I'll buy it.

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>>6442053
Is Leader-1 worth 50 dollaroos? I just found out that he's about the scale of the old CHUG seeker mold in both modes and the idea of a Good F-15 vs Evil F-15s gives me an itch.

>>6445438
I heard he has some bits that don't tab in (his backpack, mainly) and I think he might be a bit of a pain to stand up. I think he might even be a little fragile. But from everything I've seen and heard, he seems pretty good. II don't have one but I know I want one.

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>>6445390
>It's US$70

>>6445438
Nope. Some genius had the bright idea to put an excessive amount of diecast on him, despite having fucking ball joints and being so small. It makes any posing a bitch for no gain other than increasing paint used and shipping coss

>>6445030
>>6445033
>>6445039

yeah, this is a non-contender. but i'd still consider it if they gave us a CHUG scale version.

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>>6445451
Where did they put the diecast again? The chest and feet?

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>>6445479
Yes.

For what it's worth I have him and really like him. I personally have no issues with floppiness or posing but I guess ymmv.

>>6445447
That's what I saw on TFW. I DID say "apparently". Hey, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I just saw someone saying it was $70.

>>6445451
Oh yeah, forgot about this.

Bandai almost never make good transforming figures. Once in a blue moon, they make something like SoC GaoGaiGar. Every other time, they make an absolute clusterfuck. Even their premium figures are sometimes fucked over by diecast. Idiots.

>>6445486
Never mind, I must have misread a post. There's no price yet. Yeah, I highly doubt it'll be $70. If it was, I'd probably buy one despite the shitty wings.

>>6445491
It'll be $120 minimum I'm sure

>>6445013
>HURRDURR CHUNKY BOTS CAN'T HAVE GOOD ARTICULATION

>Maketoys: Watch this, faggot

Almost 180 degree leg bends, 100~ degree arm bends, shoulder swiveling, ab crunch, waist swivel, ankle tilt, holy fuckballs take my money. I wouldn't be surprised if this fucker could do a pseudo-handstand on one of his arm-plates with one blade helping prop him up.

>>6445498
>do a pseudo-handstand
Depends on how strong his shoulder swivel is and how far back his ab can extend.
I would love to try an accomplish it.

>>6445488
It's not made by Bandai

>>6445498
To be fair, the liberty offered by the I-transform-into-a-big-pile-of-scrapped-metal-that-doesn't-look-like-anything design and not having to keep the partscount down help a lot.

>>6445574
He really is just a space triangle.

Knowing that I'll only buy one per month, in which order should I buy FT Phoenix, FT Grinder and MT Contactshot to avoid price rising/sell out?

>>6445574
I can't think of most chunky bots that look good in their alt modes anyway. MMC's Roadbuster molds all look like squashed-down bricks in theirs.

>>6445558
Oh, you're right, my mistake. I forgot that someone else made them - I was just thinking of the original Machine Robo.

Still, they certainly seem to take after Bandai.

>>6445013
Finally got around to watching this and holy fuck, that thing is better than I thought. I already wanted to buy it.

Now if only I weren't poor as fuck right now.

>>6445579
I doubt you have to worry too much about Contactshot (and if he does sell out, there's always the KO).

I'd personally go for Phoenix first just because he's bigger and more expensive so you may as well get him ASAP before he goes up in price.

That being said, I don't have any of the three, I'd like all three (though Grinder I can take or leave), and that fucking chink better email me back about the Phoenix I ordered today else I'm filing a complaint to get my money back and I'll just buy it from ShowZ instead.

>>6445616
>>6445617
>>6445618
This looks amazing but a huge chunk of transformers appeal for me is the transformation.

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>>6445620
The high end robot action figure market and the Transforming toys market are usually divided pretty hard. I can appreciate it due to how impossible it would be to engineer something so complex yet look seamless in both modes with all that articulation to boot.

I got to play with a Sentinel piece at a con not to long ago and fell in love. Now I'm 350 in the hole after buying this crazy fucking thing from a show I've never seen. Give it a shot. I'm considering getting the MAS gigantic 18" prime figure for shit and giggles.

>>6445622
Looking to get my first Sentinel figure with the Modular War Machine, hopefully I won't get fucked too hard when trying to find one online after the Wonder Festival hits.

>>6445616
Fucking hell, it's pretty

>>6445616
>>6445617
>>6445618
I wish I could justify buying this buy I'd rather get a transforming one instead. Not that I'm against the non-transforming Transformers action figures, especially when they look like this, but... money.

Also, Drift is still a better character than Windblade.

>>6445616
>>6445617
>>6445618
Fuck why is this so beautiful but sooo fucking expensive. I want to buy him but I can't justify that $320 price tag.

Maybe when they do Tarn, I'd pay that much for him...maybe.

>>6445652
Where to buy..... 320 is fine by me

>>6445640
>Drift is still a better character than Windblade
Somehow true
A true feat of writing by Scott

So heres a question, did anyone get the new Leonidas from PE? Is it good? Is it still shit?

I really want to know, because that thing looks so good, but the first two were such shit.

>>6445752
It's not out yet, is it?

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>>6445587
>I can't think of most chunky bots that look good in their alt modes anyway

>>6445769

I know at least one online place in the US has it in stock.

>>6445790
C H U N K. No seriously there's no room to talk about Repugnus' alt mode as it's a goddamn ant-monster thing when the initial bitching was about "hurrdurr it doesn't look like anything". I like him but he looks pretty stupid.

>>6445708
Preorders aren't up yet to the general public but they were letting people who attended TFCon Toronto preorder him early.

>can afford most 3rd party stuff but anything over $300 is pushing it
Man it sucks being a moderate poorfag.