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Frame Arms Group Build

This time the idea is to build any Frame Arms, or Frame Arms Girl kit, and paint and customize it.

The rules are overall pretty simple, the base must be recognizable as FA or FA Girl, other than that there's no limit on what you can do.

Due Date: September 1st

Note: This is a prize build, there will be a prize provided by me, there will also be a mystery prize provided by another anon. That means that to enter, I need WIP pictures submitted before the due date. Simply email me some pictures of you working on it, I don't care at what point, as long as it's possible to tell where your final product came from.

Prize Pack:
MSG Free Style Bazooka
MSG Impact Knuckle
MSG Beast Sword
MSG Assault Rifle #2
Miscellaneous supplies

I'm probably going to add more, but I'll let those be a secret.

Email: [email protected]

I'm also available via IRC and Steam.

Anything I should know about picking up my first Frame Arms kit?

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Is this ok for gunpla?

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>>6434264
I know a good one but I'm not gonna post it here

>>6434502
God everyone is a fucking tranny anymore. And here I thought gunpla was the last holy bastion. Also, isn't the point of being a tranny to not let others know you are one to begin with?

>>6434512
I don't know if everyone is but I'm sure as hell sick of them shitting up anything remotely "nerdy". I was in a Gunpla discord this week and they wanted to show people wearing their t-shirts for the facebook page. First submission was a dyed hair super obvious tranny.

Modeling as a hobby is going main stream and we're seeing it fill with undesirables, attention seekers and whores because of it. I fucking hate it.

>>6434512

They are incredibly lonely people, who in the past would have a family or religious institutions to care for them, but today? Pantomiming as a woman is the only way to attract attention.

It's kind of like being in hell, but in real life.

Anyway. . .back to Chinese robots and painting.

What do you guys do when you fuck up the little cables?

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heyyyyy this is pretty fun actually

>>6434543
They're fucked up kids who in the past would've been set straight by social pressure but now we indulge it. People have always been fucked up, society usually just set them straight because that's what society is for, collecting and conforming people into contributing members. It's all downhill from here boys, build like there's no tomorrow

>>6434636
What if we instead build a real functional robot and Desu Vult in the name of Zeta?

reminder that the IRC channel is a thing and not a botnet like discord

i need help i have a Bandai #129 Nobell Gundam Beserker Mode 1/144 High Grade Future Century. however the peace hand broke. is there a way to buy a new hand without getting another model?

>>6434686
Which hand?

>>6434689
The peace hand.

>>6434692
Well, your options are either
1). Glue it (depending on how it's broken)
2). Buying the Skull Weapon booster as it actually comes with a pair of peace hands.
There might also bee some 3rd-party hands that are super poseable, but I'm not sure about some at the 1/144 scale since I've never looked into it.

>>6434571
hey im still pretty new to this. where can i find one of these

>>6434700
both fingers broke off. i appreciate the help anon

Anyone know the actual release date of the HGBF Chinagguy?
HLJ just says July 2017, so idk if that just means at any point or at the end of the month

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please tell me theres a hg model

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Girlfriend got me Bael for my birthday and kinda decided to go crazy on the HGIBO line, as well as picking up a few slightly bigger HGs I've been after for a while. Hopefully HLJs backorders don't take too long.

>>6434705
http://bandai-hobby.net/en/new_item.html

>>6434710
no but there's an MSIA

>>6434703
I couldn't find it in stock anywhere anymore, but it's up for a reissue in September, you can preorder it here:
>http://hlj.com/product/KBYKP-410

>>6434717
>http://bandai-hobby.net/en/new_item.html
Thanks!
Payment with Gigant HoOh like I originally though

>>6433421
>>6432773
I mean....shit. The old Z'Gok is actually a really good kit and there is a fair amount of new tooling here, but I can't help but wish there was a little more to change up its appearance than just those new forearms.

Somewhat related, I was sorta thinking the other day: if they do a Revive Z'Gok, what would they even improve? The old kit is pretty great already imo.

>>6434745
Change the material used for the joints to the new plastic used by current hg kits, and a movable mono-eye

>>6434388
yes, get one that has a big red "RE" on the box. those are the re-issue ones that have a sturdier frame but its still filled with shitty nubmarks. If you can find an architype frame get it so that you can snap it together yourself.

I've never ordered pbandai kits before, how much do middlemen charge extra compared to how much japs and other asians pay?

I have a friend in Singapore I could ask to buy/ship to me some pbandai kits I'm interested in, but I don't want to bother them with a request like that unless middlemen really do increase the price like double or something.

>>6434571
You should check out kotobukiya's evas
They have both anime and ova version
And the eva 02 with cloak is on the way.
The articulation on those are way better imo (even tho i havent built those yet)

>>6434870
Middlemen are expensive and will probably result in a 40-50% extra for domestic shipping, bank fees, and international shipping for a total cost of 140-150% (100% being just the items, 40-50% being the extra shipping and shit). Domestic shipping is cheap, especially in Japan apparently. So you're probably paying like 40% more than them.

>>6434876
They only charge for shipping costs? I was under the impression that they charged more to make a profit.

140-150% doesn't sound as bad as I expected though. Thanks anon.

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The F91 ended up being a pretty sexy kit with it's Rafflesia base

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>Get payment request from HLJ
>But it's not my nippers
I'm getting far more hyped for these than I should be.

Huh. Official preorder up for the OT Falcon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073ZRGX6T

Oh god, it's $400, I think this is their most expensive yet.
It's even got metal photoetch detail parts.

>>6434886
I kinda want, but I've been hemming and hawing over it for months. Anything you'd complain about?

I also wanna properly paint up that base if I get it but don't think I have the skills. Shame.

Friendly reminder that if you want the Amazing Z'Gok but don't want to pay for P-Bandai, just wait until after release and buy one from Mandarake.

>>6434710
Give me a perfect grade of this fucker.

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Almost done with this big lug. The build ended up being better than I thought

>>6435021
Only real complaint is, being an older kit, it's joints are kind of wonky. especially the elbows which are two pieces held together by a peg, rather than a singular joint

What are some decent weapons for stuff on the HG scale that aren't IBO, BF, or builder/campaign parts?

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>>6435612
Kotobukiya has their own range of supplementary weapons under their M.S.G. line long before Bandai did theirs, like this stupid-awesome motorized chainsaw.

>>6435640
Unfortunately most of the cooler ones are too big and look awkward on most hg stuff. Even in your pic that's an MG.

>>6435440
It's an old-style of jointing found on the G04 and G05 IIRC. But those had a reason for having that type of joint since they had arm cannons so you could position them out to the sides or on the underarm

>>6435655
Oh no, I know the reason. But it's tends to make the joints somewhat loose

Waiting my package here and thinking about my next order, Anyone got a good suggestion for 1/60 scale?

Anyone actually built one?

>>6434714
get the 1/100 vidar, you'll thank yourself for it

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>>6434703
This is the one I got
http://hlj.com/product/BAN950533
He comes with a few weapons (minigun, knife and pallet gun) and feels pretty good.

>>6434874
I'm planning to! I think I've preordered 02 with the cloak.
The articulation on this one is a mixed bag.
The head is barely able to move since it's connected to the body by two balljoints, the shoulders are also balljoints, and the arm is lacking, with just a hinge at the elbow.
He's a good size though. Stands a bit taller than an MG, so he's in scale with the 1/144s.

Varnish question. Why does it feel like my lacquer gloss varnish never fully dries? It feels dry after a few days, but any firmer touch leaves finger prints. Could it be too humid for it to properly cure? Should O spray it again when it gets drier out?

>>6435960
>lacquer gloss varnish
you are going to have to be more specific

what brand? how did you spray it?

lacquer gloss is typically cured within 2hrs

>>6435719
You can just glue it or put plastic sheet over it

>>6435960
What did you put it over?

>>6436015
Sorry about that. It's Alclad II Klear Kote gloss. The weather hasn't been kind in central Pa this summer, so I'm hoping that might be the case.

>>6436023
So far I've tested it on a custom Graze, Boba Fett, and Stormtrooper. I use Vallejo paint, and then the Alclad gloss after the paint dries. The Graze seemed to cure the best of the three. What's weird is that it seems like I leave finger prints on in, but I can wipe them away. It just feels.. not quite tacky, but not dry like bare plastic

>>6436030
I haven't used alclad gloss yet, I have some somewhere just never got to it. Isn't it actually enamel? Or am I getting that confused with something else.

Anyway, not all paints might feel like plastics. That said it sounds like you might not have given the vallejo enough time to air out. Acrylic can take up to like a week to cure and air out sufficiently enough to put a solvent based paint over it safely. If the under layer of paint is still airing out it can slow or prevent the curing of the top layer, or worse, cause a reaction that dissolves one of the two or ruins the finish.

If you already let it dry for 5-7 days in a dry, moderate warm environment then I'd just try a different gloss. How wet you coated it will also affect it obviously, since the outer most of the paint will start curing first and the rest will gas out as the solvent vaporizes and escapes. Sometimes it might be good to do a few very light layers of gloss for adhesion before doing the wet layer for high gloss.

>>6436030
>The weather hasn't been kind in central Pa this summer
That might be it. If weather's humid then your paint is going to get fucked up real easy. I'm in NJ and it's been unusually humid here too.

>>6436030
Alclad klear coat gloss is enamel, not lacquer. It gets sticky and leaves fingerprints because your finger oils are reacting with it.

>>6436053
It says lacquer on the bottle, tho. Alclad II Lacquer

>>6436038
I figured it's from a mix of things. Could also explain why the Graze feels much drier than the other two. Also I didn't know I could put down thin layers of gloss first, I'll try that too if we ever get an actual dry day

>>6436063
>Also I didn't know I could put down thin layers of gloss first, I'll try that too if we ever get an actual dry day
I would test it on scrap plastic first. You can certainly do it for opaque paints and I'm fairly certain there won't be any strange anomalies even with a clear coat but it can't hurt to be sure.

>>6436058
Thats the brand name. Even their aqua gloss says "Lacquer" on it. If you don't believe me spray down a junk piece and try putting an enamel wash on it. I did that with a gm and the enamel ate right through the gloss coat and ruined the paint. When I used it with aqua gloss I didn't have that problem.

>>6434512
>>6434528
Have you guys considered killing yourselfs?

>>6434636
Could you legitimately retarded edge lords go back to /pol/?

>>6436072
So am I screwed in that it won't ever dry properly? Like isn't lacquer better than enamel? I'm still unsure about a lot of this stuff, clearly lol

>>6436074
Fuck off, prime.

>>6436074
>>6436079
they're not mentally unstable like you, tranny
go be a degenerate elsewhere

>>6435803
Strike, God Gundam, all the Unicorns.

>SU-47's predominant color is flat black
How the fuck would I give it any weathering without it looking like shit? Should I just make it clean and leave it murder black all the way through?

>>6436189

Bits of exposed steel color where the paint would scuff/scratch, maybe?

>>6436199
A modern fighter really wouldn't have that kinda look, especially something that was just a prototype. Looking at pictures, it seems like it was really clean, since the flat black hides any staining that might show up around panel lines.

I guess the most I could do is add a tiny bit of gray or white to the flat black to lighten it a bit, like the paint's a little worn or something.

>>6436030
East PA here, yeah I am also having trouble with drying and curing paint this summer. I been trying to do as much of the topcoat in a corner of the basement with the dehumidifier running.

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>>6435021
the common complain on the F91 is that it does not uses polycaps at all for the inner frame, which can result in joints being too tight at first or very loose later

the VSBRs are also a little fragile and require caution when building them, but that aside, it is a pretty damn good kit for its price

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>>6434571
>>6435876
Nice to see another enjoying the Bandai Eva HG kits! Just wanted to chime in with a heads up, to try and never leave the arms bent for long periods of time if you can. The rubber sheaths have an annoying habit of splitting just above the elbows. Also funnily enough the rubber material on the TV kits has outlasted the movie kits in my experience.

Also an outright warning to NEVER CONSIDER the PG Eva Unit-01 kit. Been seeing it pop up for as low as 3000-4000 yen on Mandarake recently, and I'm conflicted on even saying it's worth that for a custom project; using it's surprisingly robust inner frame. Avoid it, and I'd actually wanna request that if GG makes an avoid section in the guide; to consider putting that in there. It's frustrating, wastes materials, and could leave you with the worst impression on the PG line.

Tips for spraying in FUCKING HOT weather? No signs of it dipping into anything lower than high 80's anytime soon.

>>6436515
As long as the humidity isn't fucking awful you can spray.

How do you dull coat really small intricate pieces like 1/44 face pieces? Just spray the whole head to get an even coat? Or spray each tiny piece?

never used this stuff before, i have the Testor's dull coat spray

>>6436535
If it's just a top coat I would do the whole head. So long as the spray isn't too thick it should be fine.

>>6436515
like the G Guy says, it's the humidity you have to worry about. if you got super high humidity, there ain't much you can do unless you happen to have a dehumidifier, or a decent central air conditioning combined with a spray booth if you decide to spray in the house itself.

>>6436074
Have you considering learning English?

>>6434438
yes

>>6436535
The whole head is generally easier, unless there are clear bits, remove those first.

>>6436695
so it will mess up clear bits? will it mess up the glossy stickers too?

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>>6436097
It will dry properly if you don't spray super thick coat of it (and as long as you are not spraying vinyl - enamel NEVER dries on vinyl).

That said, Klear Kotes are inferior to lacquer based clears like Mr Super Clear.

>>6436710
Not exactly with stickers, they just get less shiny.

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Rate my collection please
Note: the pic may up side-down

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>>6436858
my attempt to do the same post as on the book

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>>6436862
this one is chogokin

>>6436858
gud taste
Lern 2 topcoat/paint as time goes on. Koto kits are very nice, but the marks left from the nubs are very hard to hide due to Koto's plastic.

If you do decide to learn, make sure you practice it on kits you don't mins fucking up.

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>>6436864
revoltec anubis

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>>6436865
Thank for advice
I am really beginner for this kind of stuff

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>>6436873
1/60 silver hawk from darius
1/60 R-09 Arrow head from R-type
and Vic viper revoltec

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>>6436875
some yukikaze

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>>6436877
1/72 star wars bandai

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>>6436879
1/72 Vf25s and some studio ghibli bandai kit

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>>6436884

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>>6436885
MG turn-x

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>>6436893
Clear part make it look like sci-fi mech more than the yellow ball eyes so I don't put it

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ok that's all I got yet

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ok that's all I got yet

>>6435292
is that from PLUM company ?

>>6436902
>>6436904

Jealous of the Odin Sphere Gwendolyn. Is it good?

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Is it possible to paint rubbery/flexible parts like these tracks?

>>6437214
yes, it is possible

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>>6437157
Very nice detail
and nice price. i find it on mandrake shop at Akihabara

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Here is my berserk fuhrer, he ain't quite done yet, back weapons need some more work, like paint to cover up the notorious koto nub marks, as well as figuring out how to make the joint caps look right. Tried going with white to further accentuate the fifties turquise color I got going on but they didn't look right. Maybe if I make the body of the cap black and the top white like whitewall tires...

Anyway posted this despite incompleteness since some anon seemed interested to know what I was painting it.

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>>6437214
Yes, I painted the red rubber part of the waist on this guy with lacquers, as long as you don't bend them too much afterwards you're fine.

>>6437214

Anon, I saw this amazing trick on a Korean video.
Try using MR. Metal primer to prepare the rubber and then paint it, it should work like a charm.

See it for yourself:
https://youtu.be/CLYYzlzszPw?t=758

>>6437331
oh man, that looks fucking fantastic!

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Getting back into Model Kits after around 15 years and I bought all these.
Got the Zaku just because it was super cheap and I wanted something to practice with.
Got the 3 RX-78-2's because I wanted to try out all the Gundam grades (other than Perfect because I'm not made of money) and I figured if I bought 3 different Gundams and never bought anymore, they would look out of place on display being different sizes and quality while 3 of the same would at least look nice together
And I got the Gourai's because the FAG anime was cute and I thought they'd look nice on display together.

Is there any specific model kits (gundam or otherwise) that are fun to build or look nice to display?
Also is there any cheap way of getting Zoids in the UK or am I stuck paying £30+ shipping and £10+ customs charge?

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>>6437445
>fun to build
thats subjective, but I would say bandai's IBO 1/100 line, or the RE1/100 lines because they're ezmode

>nice to display
led mirage v3

>>6435876
how new are you to eva?
a HG should be reaching up to her knee at best.
why buy this inaccurate version?
that's the rebuild painting on the tv frame.
cheap cash-in by bandai.

funny how the kotobukiya kit is better in every way except the body shape. they retooled their rebuild kit into some frankenstein monster.
I have both tv versions, and all things considered the old bandai kit wins by default by being more accurate. the kit you built takes a massive shit on accuracy however.

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>>6437445
oh and you'll want to buy some plastic cement to glue up the gourai(male) or the frame will frustrate you to no end

>>6437445
I find any kit that is more mechanically inclined in it's assembly to be more fun (screw, springs, etc)

As far as nice to display, ones that come with action bases like the F91 in this thread look nice, especially if you can do any customization

>>6437482
>led mirage v3
That does look very nice, I'll probably pick one of those up

Here's a more specific question, what Gundam kits have nice shields? I love a good shield

>>6437421
Thanks, was worried the lack of any curves would not mesh too well with that color but so far seems to work

>>6437502
jesta cannon

>>6437502
Turn A and Gelgoogs have some nice shields.

>>6437502
Pretty sure the led mirage is nowhere near easy to build and hard as fuck to find.

>>6437356
Post some more pics of that sexy fuck, please

>>6437445
Look into Maschinen Krieger kits if you're planning on painting, they're pretty unique looking and generally interesting to build.

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>>6437543
kk

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>>6437662
>>6437664
>>6437668
>>6437675
Nice work, man. Where'd you buy the conversion from? I'd be interested in making one.

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This was in my mail. I know what I am spending my week doing.

>>6436904
Yeah its the 1/35 plum powerdoll. Its not something I would recommend for just a straight build. Also its pretty pricy

>dad is in jail and mom is deathly ill so no gunpla for the forseeable future

Gonna miss you anons, see you in a few years

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>>6436509
Thanks for the info! Yeah, the rubber feels very fragile and I'm reluctant to bend it at all if I'm honest.
I didn't know there was a PG version but these guys are a bit bigger than I expected anyway, so I'm more than happy with just them.

>>6437488
I watched the anime and the rebuilds but admittedly that was almost half a decade ago. I think the kit looks good.
Concerning the height issue, I do remember that it's all over the place in the anime so I remember them being around 50 meters tall.

Spending some time with it, the kit is very nice to look at but playing with it is a bitch.
As I mentioned before, the neck is poorly articulated, but that's not the real issue.
The shoulders can't move past maybe 60° vertically, and horizontal movement is only available through the ball joint.
Elbows can hinge about 45°.
The wrists are also awful to work with. The hands pop out so easily, it's impossible to hold a natural looking pose with the gatling gun, even the picture in the manual is awful.
Just find a nice pose with a weapon, make sure

>>6437689
It's a G-system conversion kit but I think it's out of print, I picked it up from taobao through a middleman,

>>6437739
>make sure
this is some horror movie stuff anon what happened to you

>>6437739
the only official number ever given was 80 meters. it's the rebuild size, should be more consistent than the show ever was. grandpa's gundam rx-78 is 18,5 meters.
I really wish they made 5cm tall gundam kits now.
you should try the koto evas, they have better articulation and they make better toys.

>>6434325
What suit is this?

>>6437953
Infinite Justice.

>>6437954
Thanks!

>>6437502
>what Gundam kits have nice shields?

some of my favorite shields belong to:

Adele
Hazel Custom
Sinanju
Sazabi
GN-X

Is there really no (high quality) HQ master gundam kit? I would love a RG/PG, but I know those don't exist.

Also how do you guys display/show your finished pieces?

>>6438165
the HGFC Master Gundam w/ Fuunsaiki is good hello?

Just to confirm, the Xuron 410 is the recommended Xuron nipper, yeah?
I'm looking for something that can be gotten for about $25-30 CAD and that was the rec I got.

>>6438223
Xuron 410s or Squadron nippers will serve you fine.

>>6437502
Shiden for riot shield.

Hey guys, new to gunpla. When you get a new kit, which parts do you typically paint? I'm considering getting this:
http://www.gundamkitscollection.com/2016/09/hg-1144-gundam-vidaru-tentative-name.html

And not sure what you'd normally paint on a kit like that. Maybe metallic paint for the weapons and other parts that would be metal on the real gundam? Any insight into this would be appreciated. Also, would that kit be good for a beginner?

>>6438294
>what do you paint
everything

>>6438295
If the kit is already colored, why? Does it improve the texture, do you want a different color from how it comes out of the box, do you just enjoy the process of painting it and the pride of ownership that comes along with it, ... some other reason? I'm sure there's a reason but I'm just not sure of it.

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>>6438300

Because it looks better, here's a comparison.

>>6437482
That looks ni-
>$450
welp

>>6438294
It's an Iron Blooded Orphans kit, so yeah. IBO is probably the best thing a beginner can get to start building Gunpla since they're easy to build, look nice and have an inner frame.

>>6438309
He messed up the black and blue colors if you ask me

>>6438309
Thanks, agreed. I've been looking for good before/after pics but couldn't find anything.

>>6438309
It looks like a completely different kit, but I can't imagine that I'd ever have that level of skill.

>>6438322
Keep this in mind, a lot of those details you feel you would never have the skill level to pull off? Decals. the RGs are very heavy on stickers. And then the panel lines are very easy to do which always makes a kit super impressive.

>>6438328
I recognize the eye decals and the X-105, but the shading makes it look completely different.
inb4 that's literally just a flat coat of paint

>>6438342
its literally a flat coat of paint

>>6438309
This greatly discourages me at my own skill level

>>6438370
fuck me, teach me the way

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>>6438294
The best way you can make a kit look better as a beginner is panel lining, buy a fine tip marker and just race all the grooves once you are done building the model, even a small amount improves the way a model looks so much.

>>6437739
That exact eva kit was my first model ever (I bought it not knowing it was a model) so i'm super biased towards that line and think even the 90s LMHG eva's look good despite shit articulation, i'd recommend the mass produced Eva but it needs heaps of painting to look accurate.

>>6438482
Is a marker or diluted paint better?

>>6438487
If you were making a 1/100 MG or something i would recommend using diluted paint but personally a 1/144 HG is too small and finicky.
Besides as a beginner a marker would be better just so you can practice and find your way around how panel lining works

Question about Mr Hobby paints

Loooooooong story short, I need to repaint an Astray from red to blue. The manual calls for Mr Hobby Cobalt Blue, but I'm wondering if either Mr Gundam Blue or Mr Gundam Zeta Blue would be decent alternatives. I can't really find color-accurate pictures online, but I know what the Blue Frame is supposed to look like

>>6438532
I like the Gold Astray.

>>6438541
I like the standard Astray design, but Bandai has been fucking retarded in how the handle the Astray, at least in the MG line. They should have released the Second L like they did, then release the standard Red Frame Astray as normal. The Red frame Kai should have been P-Bandai instead, and then they could have made a standard Astray but in blue as a P-Bandai, like how they did with the RGs. Hell they could have made all the colored frames, but for some ungodly reason they had to make the backpack and shield P-Bandai... WHY? We didn't need two tacti-cool arm normal releases!

I've never built a master grade or anything but a 1/144 before. What are a few good ones to start with?

>>6438565
There's a few recommended in the guide, but a good place to start is the Wing MG line, they're all pretty straightforward and fun.

>>6438568
>>6438565
>Wing MG line
Get a Tallgeese. You'll also probably want to buy an Action Base so you can pose the incredibly unstable thing, but man do I love how it looks.

>>6438563
As its been said before, at the time the red frame kai came out that was what it currently looked like in the manga and was what had the current most relevance, so they went with that. Also I wouldn't doubt that the fact that there was already a 1/100 NG out of the standard red frame factored into it.

Sucks that the standard took years to release and it was a p bandai though.

>>6438601
Too bad its not standard, i would of bought 6 of them and repainted them into different colors.

>>6436711
Uh. What.

>>6437401
Oooh

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>>6438405
want to know how ridiculously easy this all can be? This is JUST flat coat, nothing else, not even paint, just clear flat coat.

>>6438688
Don't I need an (expensive) airbrush for this? I tried hand-paint a kit but it didn't turn out very well at all.

>>6438692
top coating you would use spray cans or airbrush.

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>>6438688
>ridiculously easy
>JUST flat coat
in fairness, it doesn't make it look dramatically better on its own (it's not even lined ffs)

how good the end result looks is very much proportional to the amount of time and effort you put into it

>>6438709
What does the thing on its right shoulder do? I thought it was a giant hand at first.

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>>6438588
Tallgeese is unstable? It looks so sturdy though.

>>6438711
Thruster cell/vernier.

>>6438712
I'm not sure if this is satire or you're fucking with me but it has below-average sized feet and bulky super verniers on the back. While you can counterbalance this with the shield and gun and it is certainly capable of standing without support unlike some kits, it is definitely not a stable kit by any measure. I wouldn't say you HAVE to have an Action Base for it (there are definitely kits where an Action Base is mandatory, like the Psycho Zaku which is hopelessly back heavy) but it's one of the kits that definitely benefits from it.
That said I think almost every kit could benefit from an action base for the sake of dynamic posing, there's a lot more you can do when your kit isn't limited to what will keep it balanced on its feet.

>>6438487
>>6438482
A trick I learned with panel lining. Get an extra fine Sharpie (color depends on piece), and do your panels. I personally do any edges on raised pieces also. Then take an alcohol wipe, which you can buy at any cvs/Walgreens for $10 for 200 count, and wipe along the excess. It'll clean up any lining you have and leave a fine panel line. It also helps prep the piece for any decals, as it removes any oils on the plastic

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I read the guide. This is for only building toy kits, right? I wanted some advice on whether I should pull the trigger on this expensive fuck and wondered if any of you had experience with sentinel products.

>>6438761
Yeah, the guide is just for building kits, it's just meant for this thread, not /toy/ in general. As such, it has no application for you.

Just wanna say though, Sentinel is one of the best in the toy game right now. Their engineering and quality is top fucking notch, with pricepoints to match. If you can afford it, go for it--it's one hell of a toy. If you need more convincing, just look at the level of engineering on this figure:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSZYCD9wwzA

>>6438766
Thank you for your patience. The damsahii thread is clearly better for me. Much obliged.

>>6438767

Robot Damashii is actually a specific toyline so that's not for you either if what you want to ask about is that Mazinkaiser haha but you'll get the hang of things

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>>6438771
Today I learned I'm a /toy/ scrub.

>>6438771
Well, lately the RD thread has been playing host to the likes of Metal Build, SRC, Hi-Metal R, NXEdgeStyle, etc. Riobot is a bit of a stretch but it might be alright I think...

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>>6438778
I'm not trying to shit up anyone's thread. It just seems awfully small of a thing to start up it's own thread.

>>6438711
GP02's shoulder armor flip up to expose the thrusters. It's thrusters got stuck on the shoulders because the backpack is being used for the nuke and bazooka attachment.

>>6438781
Who gives a shit, if no one wants to talk about it then it falls off the board (After like 2-3 days because /toy/ is slow as fuck). At worst there will be a couple of anonymous people you'll never meet calling you an idiot.

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>>6434329

>>6438688
If I like very matte colors like this, what type of spray paint should I buy?

Off-topic question, but I figure you guys would be the best to ask given your skill set: What's the best way to keep something dust free while you're working on it? I need to take the screen off a psp for cleaning, but there's a good chance I'll just get dust trapped in between during the process.

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>>6438877

>>6438869
I use tamiya spray cans, they just need to be used in warm conditions so maybe above 20 degrees Celsius to be safe, warm up the can if you wish (leave it sealed in a bucket of warm water don't do anything retarded like using a microwave etc) and shake up the can for a good solid 60 seconds or more, and when you spray use burst not just hold down the trigger, and keep parts/sections away at around 30cm.

Results may still vary but this seems to work for me

>>6438405
It looks good because it's the RG and already has lots of surface detail. Simply paint every part with a single coat of color(some masking involved maybe), lining and decals will net you the same result

>>6438843
maybe i should forget about painting the skin tone after all...
are you going to glue the grey piece in later?

>>6437718
post that rezel up when you've built it I've been eyeing it for a while

>>6438688
>didn't mask the eye slit
>fogging

lel

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Wow, a transforming gundam!

>>6439136
The hell, I want them to show the back of this MA.

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>>6439147
thats the back tho

>>6439147
Its reborns gundam sitting on its ass and unfolding its new bf parts.

>>6438709
Obviously, but I like using that image as an example of how much simple flat coat changes the look of an unpainted model, something that anyone can do to improve their build even snap fitters. Obviously adding panel lining will increase the quality even more, but point is you don't need paint for a painted look.

>>6439136
>>6439147
>heres your unpainted transforming gundam that transform into nothing
>that will be $50 plus tip, you want more super fumina as a thanks for your purchase?

how do you even defend GBF line at this point

>>6439163
at least the heels are nice
but it really is a pile of shit

>>6438781
This is one problem with generals, people think there HAS to be enough content to make a general and/or all content should fit into a general.

Generals are not some sort of rule on 4chanb, just something most folk do

>>6438869
if you like matte, then you can use any paint or lack of paint that you prefer. You just have to use Matte/Flat clear coat, it's even a great way to get different surface texture to look the same. Say for example some parts were painted in flat paint, some in gloss, and some even not painted at all, they will all look the same texture wise with a few layers of a flat coat.

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>>6439163
>that will be $50 plus tip
It's like less than $20 msrp.

>how do you even defend GBF line at this point
Pic related.

>>6439151
>>6439163
To it's credit sitting down is a step above how it originally transforms which is by turning around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogo9fN4_2P8.

>>6439136
>>6439147
>MA
Hit the nail on the head. One of the few ways this isn't a downgrade from the original is if it's massive and actually an MA instead of an MS, otherwise it's just looking like a sitting duck, even if the Gundam it's based off of is pretty durable.

>>6438843
>jizzing on your FA:G's thighs
despicable

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For those that like zoids here are images of the upcoming HMM Storm Sworder. Still can't find anything more on when the Sturm Tyrann comes out, but these guys are still cool.

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>>6439408
looks like they come with a ton of parts to swap them between the pilot versions. Which helps explain the pricepoint of 9,800 yen, I figured they would be closer to the geno or fuhrer price points

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>>6439412

After months of bullshit I finally got my CuteCube TR-6 from SamuelDecal, and lo and behold its missing runners. Fantastic.

>>6439163
>heres your unpainted transforming gundam that transform into nothing

The only word in this complaint that is remotely accurate is "gundam".

>>6439336
But how do you expect to maintain them without special glue?

>>6439183
What's special about this Jim?

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You guys like Rhodesians, right?

My first attempt at hand-painting anything. Base coat of Krylon Brown Leather, followed by Citadel Zandri Dust and W'AAAAAAAAAHG Flesh.

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>>6439823
For some reason, the paint on the visor came out really grainy. I might sand and redo that.

I need an FAL.

>>6439801
Brand new, made for the ova.

>>6439801
Brand new, looks like sex on legs, multiple head options, made for an OVA called "GM's Counterattack".

What isn't special about it?

>>6439837
>>6439864
So it's a Revive GM under the HGBF line?

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>>6439801
>>6439837
>>6439864
Also a shitton of hardpoints (which can be covered with panels when not in use), and most importantly articulation-wise, THESE SHOULDERS.

>>6439979
Is this the evolution of the Hi-Mock concept?

>>6439163
I know right, what kind of idiot would buy a Gunpla that isn't already painted

>>6439183
So do they come with the stand?

>>6438877

I've done this before, whenever you arent handling the PSP keep it under an upside down bowl or bucket or something, wipe it down wiith a clean microfiber cloth before you put it back together.

That's about the best you can do without a cleanroom or a sealed glovebox.

>>6439979
Shoulders are from the Burning and Try Burning isn't it? It had the same kind of slight pull out that stressed the plastic pretty bad.

I'd like to see arms that slide forward and then swing out. The vent boobs always get in the way

>>6439979
I wonder if that beam saber can fit in the barrel.

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How the FUCK would one go about achieving this effect. Specifically how the grays look kind of faded and all the edge damage.

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I'm a major amateur when it comes to color design i'm planning to give Zaku and RX HGs colorswapped paintjobs, but i just cant decide on how the head should look. Anyone got advice on how i should color the head or criticism on the rest of it?

>>6440129
If GM's Counterattack is a fuckton of GM/GMs with a wide variety of weapons ala the BF finale, then yes.

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>>6439979
>>6440129
>2 hardpoints on each arm
>2 hardpoints on each leg
>1 hardpoint on each sideskirt
>1 hardpoint on the backskirt
>1 hardpoint on backpack (2 if the beamsaber holder attaches via hardpoint, 4 if blue circles are hardpoints)
>12 hardpoints in total, possibly up to 15
I can easily imagine this thing covered with option kits.

>>6435292
That looks pretty fucking neato, friend.

>>6440473
A fine detailing airbrush
You could also get a way with pigments

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>>6440473
I think I saw a guy in a youtube vid use a dremel in order to achieve the damaged/ worn edge effect.

Or maybe one could try one of those cordless routers for better control (pic related)?

>>6440735
You cant achieve that effect by removing material. It's usually done with paint.

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>>6440743
>You cant achieve that effect by removing material
chipping is a thing

>>6440752
please explain to me how you would use a dremel to achieve that effect outside of the usual sculpting procedure.

>>6437331
sexy dino is sexy
>>6439412
That price sucks but boy do I want.

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>>6439163
winning fumina kit will be very useful for a custom pochincoff-esque gundam model

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I knew this day would come.

>>6440798
>>6440473
Of course you'd have to prime and paint the kit in order to get this effect before you use the router/dremel. Then you go along the edges where you want to add the "damage"; use a really light touch while using the tool on your kit and be careful to not drill a hole. I think the key to a good looking worn edge is, that you only remove the top layer of paint with the router so that the darker paint layers beneth are revealed.
Also, for the smoky sooty effect on a kit one could use ground chalk pastel sticks. That's what people from the resin doll hobby use for an airbrush-like effect.

Just make sure you spray a layer of flat
varnish first and make sure you got the pastel type that's not like crayons but the brittle, oil-free type. One'd need to seal the pastels with a topcoat to prevent wiping off the pastel's pigments afterwards.

>>6440922
just to clarify, dont use a router or dremel for this. If your intent is to remove material, do that in the construction phase and add darker paint in the painting stage.

It's way too easy to fuck up with power tools.

>>6440798
>removing material
>necessarily means dremel
paint is also a "material"
chipping effects are achieved by removing paint
ergo, you can weather by "removing material" (it doesn't mean you need a fucking dremel for it)

questions?

I dont get it.

Vallejo Model Air paints are prethinned and can be poured directly in your airbrush's cup, right?

What is the difference between Model Air and Game Air?

At my wits end again. How does one go about hand painting white? I can never get it to come out smooth, either with thinning it, not thinning it, or using a retarded mixed in

>>6440883
fuuuck i like this better than the bear
does it say anything about it being p-bandai or in anyway an exlusive?

>>6440986
Different shades of colors. I have Game Air and the colors are geared more towards vibrant pigments for fantasy wargaming

>>6440990
P-bandai.

>>6440994
dared for a second to hope it'll be like the axis angel fumina release

ahh well

>>6441024
Well the signs pointed to it, if its released hot on the heels of its normal version it,s definitely a P bandai. If it was months after and they announce, it would definitely be a possible retail.

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>>6439906
Not those guys but I wouldn't say so at all. It has its own model number as the GM/GM rather than the RGM-79. If it were a revive, it'd have made at least some attempt to stick to the normal GM's appearance and lineart.

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>>6440512
Probably something like this. Also, if I were you, I'd get rid of the purple beam sabers

>>6441167
Actually the part directly under the eyes looks pretty dumb in the light green now that I'm looking at it from far away

I'm wondering, how easily can the Psycho Zaku's lower legs be transplanted onto the 2.0's

>>6441180
oh nevermind checked the manuals the Psycho reuses the same knee-hinge parts from the 2.0

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>>6441167
I was going to make the beam sabers have a purple hilt and yellow beam to resemble the Zaku heat axe, but i agree that they dont look good when sheathed, ill just have it hold the saber instead

>>6440612
it's made for extreme play

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>>6441167
>>6441169
I think i've settled on this design for now because i'm happy with how it looks. I'll be sure to post it it the thread when i'm done but i don't have the paints right now so don;t expect to see it anytime soon.

>>6440986

You still want to thin them a little.

>>6440990
You can literally see "Hobby Online Shop" on the picture, in english.

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New Fumina doesn't look any better than the regular Super Fumina.

>>6439979
Is it wrong if I want to turn this into a Gundam?

>>6439136
I think this is salvagable if you don't fold out the legs, and remove the lower arm things and close the hatch the venier is in.

So I heard the Gyancelot comes with enough spares to make it the regular Gyan Revive. Is this true?

>>6441871
Nope, Go ham on it and make it full armor too.

>>6441942
Oh yeah it has the entire runners to make a regular gyan.

>>6441571
I think China works because her face is very pretty. foominer and gyanko are looking pretty weird faced

>>6441947
Gyanko always had a weird looking face so it is accurate in that regard.

>>6442046
Her eyes look too slanted. Given that s just the design but it does look funny

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>>6441571
This isn't an improvement at all.

>Finish first ever build - Barbatos Lupus HG
>Posing it
>sword won't stay tight in hand
>accidentally snap off a peg in a slot on its backpack because I sliced my finger open last week and can't really use my left thumb

Fuck. it was fun though, I really fucked up the backpack stickers because I didn't understand how to put them on - and I haven't done panel lining yet. I'll post pics once I'm done.

>>6441571
>get best mobile suits
>look retarded in super/hyper models

Poor gyanko

>6 new decal sheets in October
>It's all for 1/144 RGs, Origin MSV and Thunderbolt
Cocksuckers, hiding all the SEED waterslides in the Providence was bad enough, the X and Double X deserve a pack, MG Red frame deserves a pack.
MG Full Armor Unicorn deserves a pack (that I don't have to buy a new fucking FA Unicorn to get)

>>6442158
Buy another FA Unicorn, you know you want to.

>>6439136

For some reason I like it a lot untransformed. I never built the normal reborns though.

>>6442158

>bought waterslides for the gouf and zaku 2.0
>now I can't paint them a color that doesn't work with the waterslides

I feel dumb

Are 1/100's the "standard"? 1/144 is so tiny to work with.

>>6442147
Were you the guy from a few days ago that got two Barbados...es? Barbadii?

>>6442190
HG is the "standard"

>>6442198
Yep, gonna wait until my thumb heals to do the other + try burning.

Wonder if I should get a MG Lupus Rex.
I've got a HG 6th form from the end of the first season that I picked up after the Edmonton fight, but I'm not sure if I like the suit enough to commit to a MG and I don't want to buy another HG.

>>6442264
There is no MG Barbatos. 1/100 doesn't automatically mean master grade.

>>6442285
Full Mechanics, then. It's all semantics.

>>6442206
A freaking tiny standard. It's a shame the standard isn't a scale between HG and MG

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>>6441571
The best.

>>6442336
If only it actually looked like this.

>>6442338
Sadly, Gyankofags can't choose from 4 versions like Fuminafags.
Apparently Super Fumina finally got a good looking face after four iterations so things aren't looking too good for Gyanko.
Hopefully Hyper Gyanko sells well enough that they make another one with a better mold like Fumina.

>>6442344
Nah, Winning Fumina still looks bad. Best Fumina face still belongs to the FiguriseBust, and Chinnagguy has the best face of Bandai's GBF Girl kits.

>>6442344
Well a Gyancelot version would be nice.

>>6442344
Watch the Hyper Gyanko Gyancelot ver. be P-Bandai.

>>6434329
I'm joining, but this is my first model kit ever, so it's not going to be competitive by any means.

I may attempt to 3D print some weapons, though.

>>6442344
Anon, the Winning Fumina new face mold is a sham. She looks just as bad.

>>6442347
I don't know, the new pics make china's face look a bit creepy.

>>6442378
still the best looking face among the 3

I want to get a real/master grade since I've only done HG's. I do not want to get 78-2 or impulse, are there any I should steer towards/away from.

>>6442732
I'm looking at:

Turn A gundam ($35)
Sword impulse (42)
Exia (35)
Seven sword/G (45 - normally 90 amazon says)

Would any of these be bad/inferior to others? I'm relatively new still so I don't want something too far out of my reach.

>>6442741
Turn A is going to be fairly straightforward to build. I'd skip Exia for the floppy ankles. Seven Swords/G is super fun to build, and the base 00 is pretty damn solid.

>>6442749
Does Exia have trouble standing up? I really like how it looks but I also love the others.

I'll probably go Turn A + 00

>>6442752
Yeah, super weird ankle design, you can see it on dalong. If you do like Exia though, just pickup an action base for it. For that matter get one for 00 as well.

>>6442759
Thanks!

>>6442741
Get SS, it's a great kit. Turn A is really solid and good but it seems "low quality" for MG in my opinion. It's also a weird design so it'll never get over priced.

>>6442752
>>6442752
Honestly I've never had an issue with the Exia standing up. The GNX on the other hand...

>>6442752
MG Exia's fine. There's nothing wrong with the ankles if you're crafty enough to figure out what exactly is wrong with it.

Hell, I have an MG Exia with the Avalanche conversion on it and it stands fine.

Just because some idiots are too incompetent to properly build the kit, doesnt mean the kit itself is shit. Another good example is the MG Delta Plus.

>>6442347
winning fumina's face is the same model as the figurise bust, and you still say it's shit.

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>>6442889
Winning Fumina is definitely more smushed and potato-like than the bust.

>>6442889
Your waifu looks like shit dawg

>>6442910
At this point I think you just can't make a good Fumina face. The gunpla gods won't allow it.

Those fuckers had four times to try. FOUR.

>>6441571
Gyanko isn't THICC enough.

>>6443038
She's too thick, honestly. I'm gonna have to sand down the thighs when mine comes in.

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better get ready for white The-O.
dont kid yourself, there will be no fix whatsoever, like Twilight Axis kits.

>>6443045
You fucking monster.

What the most feminine looking mobile suits? Aside from Nobel and the BF girlybots.

>>6443049
The waist too. What choice do I have? She's too fat.

>>6443047
What about The O kit needs to be fixed? I loved the HG.

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>>6443054
All three Qubeleys
And Rozen Zulu i guess

>>6441571
Not sure if want.

I mean other than China.

>>6442741
MG Exia is in this weird phantom zone of technically being impressive (it was designed to be more articulate than damn near anything else at the time, had LEDs, and nails the original Exia look) but then rapidly falling behind as every subsequent high end Exia came out.

These days the Exia tends to be slimmer, which makes the bulk of the MG look awkward unless you go allin with Avalanche Exia. The engineering was impressive for its time, but It's since been surpassed; RG Exia can do just about anything the MG can, only it doesn't require you to glue the secondary ankle joints in place so the thing can stand. And of course, RG and MB Exia have a GN Sword that actually attaches properly instead of the catastrophic fuckup that is the MG Exia's arm connection.

>>6443356
>catastrophic fuckup that is the MG Exia's arm connection
What?
I have the MG Exia and yes the ankles are weak, but what problems do you have with the MG's GN Sword connection to the arm?

Mine's never had any problems.

>>6443054
Graze-chan

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>>6443054

GN Archer hits that sweet spot between being petite and being T H I C C. Just look at those thighs and child-bearing hips, man

>>6443038
>Gyanko isn't THICC enough.

this.

Im going to to town with epoxy putty to get her to super pochaco levels.

>>6443375
>super pochaco levels
He said thicc, not morbidly obese.

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for any anons entering the group build that missed it a few threads ago, updated frame arms line art link:


https://mega.nz/#!ZDIwxSbQ!oRCXUDQncGG2gg5nkDP05Gq8WOJHaIGIYhcDECihww8

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>>6443372
I made this in 2014.
I really like how simply making the thigh covers pink make them stand out [spoiler]and how reversing the pink and red on the chest makes it look like a sports bra[/spoiler].

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>>6443394
Well fuck me, forgot the no-spoilers on /toy/.

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>>6443378

you do you. I'll do me.

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Thought I'd finally order myself a Frame Arms Kagutsuchi for my sniper collection, turns out he isn't in stock anywhere anymore.
Any chance he'll get a reissue? Or should I settle for the double price he's being sold at locally??

>>6443423

its been reissued twice already due to demand not rarity. Dont pay more. Just wait for the next run.

>>6443047
What am I looking at

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Nice!! So it does have the normal Zaku machine gun among all that other shit. Let the army building commence!!!

Question for those that spray with lacquer without a cleaning pot:
It safe just to spray thinner into the booth when cleaning the airbrush?

>>6443628

yes

>>6443657
It won't harm the plastic in a DIY booth or the fan?

>>6443621
But will it have the command antenna?

>>6443662

no

>6443662
>It won't harm the plastic in a DIY booth or the fan?
expensive hobby thinner? most likely no

cheap hardware store thinner (that you should be using for cleaning)? possibly yes

tl;dr buy the fucking pot

>>6443047
What is this?

>>6443580
>>6443882
New manga set in 0089. A highschool gamer from Side 2 ends up as an MS pilot. Hilarity ensues.

>>6444119
That actually sounds a little interesting.

>>6444119
This better be a comedy. I'm looking forward to raws cropping up either way.

>>6443364
Not that anon, but if I had to guess he's talking about how it doesn't fully plug in. The hole in the arm is like twice as deep as the peg on the sword mount.

I had so much trouble getting the thing to stay on that I gave up and magnetized it. And it got even worse when they released the MG Exia RII; the GN Sword Kai is heavier, so it falls out even more. That one I had to straight up glue in place.

>>6443054
Exia (even depicted as a woman at one point in the anime from what I remember)
Qan[t]
Nadleeh
Reborns Gundam
Zaku Warrior Live Concert Version
Astray PMC Custom
Woundwort
Farsia
G Arcane
Qubeley

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First time topcoating kits. A few questions.

1. d-did i do good
2. How long should I wait before removing these from the clips and setting them down? I know I should wait a day or so before I roughly handle them.
3. Will I be fine if I take apart other kits and spray them limb by limb, as opposed to piece by piece like I did here?

>>6442910
>new face mold
>still looks like shit
What the hell Bandai