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End of Titans Return edition.

Old thread: >>6431669
Masterpiece only thread: >>6431229
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Where are my POTP beast-formers?
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We were promised great stuff at SDCC.

Where are the great stuff?
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>>6433395

goddamn i wish we could get Classics figures of the RID Decepticons.
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What are YOU picking up of the new stuff?

I might get Beachcomber.
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>>6433404
give it time, with primal stepping up in the toyline well get more beast types so at the very least repaints will happen.
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>>6433409
beach, rod, jazz, and maybe star scream; kinda hoping there isnt much else good this time around to assault my wallet
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>>6433384
>Titan Master Scorponok
>Not Zarak
What did they mean by this?

>>6433409
All of it except Starscream.
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>>6433409
The powermaster jet brothers almost surely
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>Look over over the deluxe hot rod and the beef up leader

It is going to be a part former
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>>6433429
Welcome to where everyone else was last afternoon
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>>6433429
Always has been, but not the way I'd of wanted it.

Would of worked in the TR line, have the trailer turn into a base/battle station mode like the g1 toy but its nothing more than a kibble infested armor up for the mini hotrod inside.

Looks great on the front at least but I REALLY need to see what the deluxe hotrod looks like
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>>6433435
There are pics of the Deluxe in the panel slides
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>>6433438
I've only seen the deluxe CAR mode, not the robot unless they're exactly the same and the orange fist are just junk parts
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>>6433440
There's the robot mode there, look closer
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>>6433444
>>6433441
I just spent all this time trying to look and now I'm even MORE confused, but least the hands confirm what I scrolled past wasn't a color mistake as I see differences in comparison

Looks too much like his "prime" mode, does give me something important to think about though.

To get my legends hotrod or get this instead
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I wish there was some way to have his head sit a little further back. I'd even personally sacrifice the shoulder articulation for it.

I hope some third party comes up with a better trailer eventually.
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>>6433451
Might as well wait for an mp 2.0 because you'll be paying that much just to fix one nagging issue, never understood 3p upgrades when they cost so much for something so little.

Which reminds me, I want bootleg cw hands and feet as in the PE ones, best cheapest place that ships internationally?
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>>6433384
is this about right?
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>>6433456
Shins fold up to form the shoulders
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>>6433451
The more I look at it the more retarded the shoulder system seems.
If the shoulder pylons were hollow toward the head than it could fold in like normal instead of having the legs move up and in the process look completely idiotic.
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>>6433451
>I wish there was some way to have his head sit a little further back.

From other angles, it does not look that bad.

The problem seems to be the huge backpack that gives the illusion of crooked forwarding head and hunchback look.

Maybe the rack on the back sis removable?
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>>6433460
Yeah...when you want hotrod then its gone.

I really do want to see what the hotrod looks like from 360 because frankly from the front of the slide he looks better than the in hand leader, must be some hollowness to necessitate the conversion from deluxe to leader, cost wise
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>>6433456
>File name
kek

It looks right, but how would the big guy's shoulders move?
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>>6433409
All of them except Jazz and SS, I'll wait for their
obscure char repaints.

>>6433449
I would cancell my preorder, but don't want to risk getting into the store black list. I'll just take the targetmaster out and sell the rest.
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So is this it for new reveals for SDCC?
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>>6433474
>would the big guy's shoulders move
SWIVELS
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>>6433477
>I would cancell my preorder, but don't want to risk getting into the store black list

Not with hlj I wouldn't
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>>6433456
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>>6433479
I think more are supposed to happen today it was just the preview breakfast.
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>>6433474
>how would the big guy's shoulders move?
Either thight swivels over the knee hinges or, (hope not) balljointed knees.
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>>6433481
Looking at the angle it's at, wouldn't the swivel have to be placed a bit weird?
I might just be getting paranoid from the non-warrior RID articulation.
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>>6433429
did you truly think that arms on Rodimus Prime mode is fully formed from Hot Rod's legs ?

it's clearly come from the Winnebago's front roof and have to be detached/attached to Hot Rod's leg when turning into Rodimus Prime.
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>>6433395

I just want something of Skowl. I needs my ankylosaurus toys dammit.
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BWA-HA-HA

BLURR IS ARCEE
BLURR IS NAUTICA
BLURR IS EVERYONE
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>>6433409
- Rowdy Roddy
- Beachcomber
- Dreadwind
- Darkwing
- Skullgrin

Maybe Starscream.
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>>6433499
Time for mildly creepy single body /ss/.
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>>6433506
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>>6433499
Who's the bot getting head here?
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>>6433499
I thought Arcee was supposed to be a Titan Master scale, but I don't really mind this.
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>>6433499
Boy, do I wish the Blurr mold actually looked that feminine. Oh well, hopefully they do crazy glasgow face Arcee this time around
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>>6433515
Seen rebirth?

Arcee had a full body with Daniel acting as her head, it was a rumor that she was just a head for this line, and it seems it may be false afterall
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>>6433415
Same thing with ultra magnus
Implies we're just getting heads in gift sets.
Why, when there's nothing for them to go on is beyond me. Thunderwing had blackshadow and zeus nitro, rodimus had hotrod.
UM could go onto pmop, but why, we already had that toy
And literally nothing passes for scorponok
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>>6433499
Wow I predicted this...
I wonder how the backpack will work.
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>>6433527
Simple, its the blurr mold, new shield accessory like with brainstorm.

It all works out
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>>6433530
This
The fenders are molded onto the hood.
Not a bad idea
Might pick uop, since I own no version of this mold
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>>6433530
Oh yeah! So does that mean she's gonna have clear boobs because of the windshield?

I hope being a the butt end of Titans Return doesn't endanger her from being sparse like past lines.
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>>6433429
Good. I'm glad the autists that bitched nonstop about Headmasters being parts formers finally have some actual partsforming to whine over.
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>>6433531
I'll be skipping since I already have 2 versions of this mold plus the takara legends.

Almost perfection aside from brainstorm and the fact none are mp's

>>6433533
Well really she'll be a chestlet, if the art matches it'll be painted up to look more like her more known g1 chest colors

I'm more curious to know if takara has plans or not but there is talk this might be part of a box set, I'm positive its bullshit but I don't know if the box sets come with lone cards
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>>6433538
Box sets come with a poster for all inside, no cards
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>>6433499
New hips and waist would have made this mold work way better for her and Nautica. Shame.
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>>6433542
Well, there we go then, guess she'll show up with the last of the decepticon target masters...coulda sworn he was meant to be single packed though, maybe I read wrong

>>6433543
That's too much effort
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>>6433546
There's other issues
No other deluxe card is sideways, or an action pose
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>>6433547
Good point, perhaps a precursor to what POTP's will bring to their art cards?

Much like cw buzzsaw having titan master pegs?
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>>6433546
>That's too much effort
So is tracking her down to buy one for myself.
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what prime toy is this KO based on
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>>6433572
Looks like that hasbro asia abomination, sorta like upscaled legends figures at voyager sizes.

Nifty and hard to find outside of asia, but to bootleg them...hasbro bootlegged themselves
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>>6433572
Looks like the Classics Legends
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>>6433572
Cyber battalion
some budget line for select countries.
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>>6433572
This guy?
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>>6433456
Looks like Rodimus's arms parts form by way of re-attachable swivel pegs like Fort Max's big red cannons.
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>>6433527
A lot of people did. This one is from September last year.
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>>6433603
why cant they just keep that Arcee mold but change her head into HM and retool the seat into TR cockpit
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>>6433598
No, it probably pegs/tabs around Hot Rod's shins
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>>6433607
Because they'll also complain about taking a near perfect figure and giving her a bigger head and trying to make it sit in a too small driver's seat
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>no more TR boxsets planned for rest of the year
>beast wars logo was put on the TR boxset box just because some of the characters turned into beasts
>le stay tuned for beast wars characters
>megatron and shockwave could get a submarine mode :^) if the story demanded it
>they read fan sites to see what to make
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>>6433616
>>they read fan sites to see what to make
That sounds like a recipe for disaster
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>>6433619
They're just throwing a bone to make fansites feel like they matter. It keeps the collector community active and buying toys if they feel like they're important.
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>>6433616
>they could finally have megatron and optimus prime make out and have kids
>and turn into carebears as alt modes
>and their enemies will be MEN

Oh how I longed for the destruction of the transformers franchise but never thought I'd live to see it commit suicide
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>>6433628
With walky and the allspark, it was bound to happen. I'm surprised it took this long.
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>>6433628
IDW seems to force in a new OC fembot every book not to mention the constant EVENTs. It could very well be the end of IDW at least.
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>>6433616
I sure hope Walky's site isn't bookmarked.
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>>6433636
I wish they'd do little contained stories like LSotW again instead of these giant interconnected events, I stopped reading like a year ago when I just couldn't follow what the fuck was supposed to be happening anymore.
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>>6433636

Unicron's showing up.

IDW is probably going to end in the next few years. I imagine around 2019 or 2020, it's getting a hard reboot. Maybe Unicron will be The Flashpoint event.
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>>6433653
but who else will do tf comics, i dont see marvel dc dark horse etc taking them unless hasbro does that in house
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>>6433653
maybe a proper zero day reboot for the whole hasbro line. different books covering different points in time like fall of cybertron in the distant past with near past being joes and eventual reappearance of the autobots more inline with g1 toon/comics. with the visionaries covering the far flung post apocalyptic future with the return of magic
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>>6433656

no IDW will still have the licence but they start a new continuity. I mean this current comic series has been ongoing for like 11 years now.

It'd be nice to have a fresh start and not be bogged down by the past. Frankly around Chaos Theory, it should have become a new continuity.
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>>6433656
They'll give it to funpub
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>>6433641
>LSotW
That book made me actually care about the comic universe. The -ation stories were fun in their own right as dumb robot drama, but Last Stand is still the best piece of official TF fiction written.
The RiD series was a return to the -ation type drama with 100% more robots and 100% less humans. MtMTE was up there with LSoTW for the first season in my opinion. Everything dropped in quality after Dark Cybertron. RiD brought back humans doing the same shit again. MtMTE just progressively got worse. Windblade can be summed up by posting a comparison screencap comparing it to literally any other transformers comic at the time.

I dropped off before combiner wars started.
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>>6433661

hahahaha....
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>>6433499
Alright, heres the plan,
-get her
-adapt generations Arcee neck to be TM compatible, don't care about the seat, can use a seatgun as sidecar...
-get an Elita-1 shapeways head/faceplate
-????
-profit.
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>>6433666
>using Shapeways
>using Shapeways for a head
>Number of the Beast trips

Enjoy your shitty grainy finish on that TM face, Satan.
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>>6433666

honestly i'd rather they made a Elita-1 toy finally.

she could use a toy of anykind.

I almost bought the BotCon toy at TFCon last weekend but didn't.
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>>6433670
Nah, their new black acrylic is pretty nice.
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So if primal is a leader and the leader's gimmick is getting bigger.

How would big bot benefit from this, what is his deluxe mode just a bare robot and his leader mode gorilla shell?
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>>6433537
>people that bitched over TM's
>TM's aren't going away
>people that bitched over CW
>CW isn't going away
>MFW I loved all of these lines

I'm glad you assmad salty faggots get another year, year and a half, maybe more, to cry over things you don't like. This is great. CW and TR were the best TF lines since the fucking 80's, and your tears over headmasters and combiners making a triumphant return are like fine wine to me.
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>>6433679

same, these lines have been great.
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>>6433508
>this is going to happen

Can't wait for someone to repaint a spare Galvatron are GARcee.
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>>6433678
What is Optimal Optimus shell, also Star Saber and UltraMagnus will work perfectly with this gimmick.
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>>6433678
was already discussed yesterday with consensus being an optimal optimus armor styled armor
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>>6433691
>starsaber
OOOOH, that would work nicely
>ultra magnus

...its too early for another leader but to have a white prime would be nice, sadly it'll just be that minimum ambulance dude

>>6433696
I went to bed when the photos stopped being posted and the butt hurt dropped
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>>6433691
>Star Saber
stop. i need to keep my expectations stay low on POTP.
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>>6433678
>big bot
you put the matrix in the monkey in the mammoth.
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>>6433698

Star Saber was one of the candidates for Power of the Primes.

He and Deathsaurus have a great shot of getting toys in this line.

I'm hoping for Dai Atlas too, even as Overlord retool.
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>>6433705
supposedly there is an overlord retool for power of the primes thats an autobot, dont recall who was named though
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>>6433499
Looking at this card, the pevils and legs are the same which I'm ok with since it could work but it actually seems like most of the torso and up is new, the only parts that are probably Blurr carryover are the arms from the elbow and down. Let's hope she's not terrible
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>>6433705
I would buy Dai Atlas even as a direct Skyshadow repaint, I'd do the custom myself, but I suck at painting.
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>>6433691
>Magnus

Does it even work wuth what the new Rodimus have ahown us?
The CW md is already great, it even beat the MP.It seems silly it get another leader so soon.
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>>6433729
He's important enough that another new toy wouldn't be impossible. Arcee had her last toy in T30, skipped CW, and now is getting another one in TR. Magnus had one in CW, skipped TR, and now could get another in POTP.
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>>6433729
>Too soon.

Didn't stop them for Scattershot, Arcee, Hot Rod or Brawn and those aren't potential Prime repaints.
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>>6433676
For reference. New acrylic is on the right, left if wsf.
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>>6433616
If they read fan sites to see what to make WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY MAKE ARMADA SIDEWAYS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>6433762
We hear you. Stay tuned. :^)
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For those who have not seen from previous thread
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>>6433762

Not G1, bro. Sorry, the only periods we recognize that sell are G1. Not even G2 can sell.
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So, are they showing the last wave for TR? By Hascon, we'll probably have listing for that wave so it's better to start revealing that now before the online stores do.
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>>6433772
Yep, thats why its "deluxe botmode" looks great.
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>>6433678
If Primal transformed into typical Gorilla mode then his 'Trailer" would combine into Optimal Optimus. That'll be a pretty nice throwback to how Primal became Optimal Optimus, assuming the Matrix is actually the Matrix in the show, it ties in well with the theme of PotP
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>>6433781
I'm thinking it's going to be bigger than a Deluxe. I'm hoping old Classics Prime Voyager size so he matches Prime, and Galvatron. Those double rifles are too big to look that small on a Deluxe.
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>>6433773
>Not even G2 can sell.
>tfw I'll never get a Generations Manta Ray
I'm getting so close to having modern versions of all my childhood bots, ever since Scoop showed up out of left field. Now I need a new Tote, Erector and a Treadshot that isn't a pricey exclusive.
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>>6433795
That's why I made my own.
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>>6433795
Manta Ray would be increadible, and the best part is that the Hot Spot molds engineering could have led to a great Manta Ray toy and also acknowledge his combiner phase in Japan.
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>>6433679

Ditto.

I loved both lines. I'm glad Hasbro hasn't abandoned them.
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>>6433788
Goddamn, all this talk about Primal has me salivating for an updated Transmetal Megatron.
>tfw you missed out on Beast Wars and started with Beast Machines
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>>6433801
Wouldn't Undertow work better? I have him as a pretender Diver stand in.
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In case anyone is wondering, Arcee has a retooled Blurr shield from which detaches and becomes her backpack which gives her signature back kibble.

They're not going to retool anything else for the figure outside of the head. If you think Nautica looks like a man it's really going to be no different from arcee.

But hey between Blurr, Brainstorm, SDCC Brainstorm, Nautica, and Arcee you're just one short of a full Autobot Seekers team.
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>>6433810
The vehicle mode is a better match, but that robot mode is ugly as fuck.
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>>6433810
He should just buy the united version, it's literally Manta Ray before he got the G2 body.
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>>6433811
How often has TR card art not reflected what the toy has? The only one I can think of are toys with slightly tweaked colors, and FM lacking weapons.

Oh yeah, and the speed box set, that had huge art to toy inconsistencies.
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>>6433795
>ever since Scoop showed up out of left field

Scoop showed up because he was important in IDW. It wasn't out of left field, it was Hasbro doing something for comics fans.
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>>6433815
Someone already repainted him, and it looks pretty nice.
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>>6433818
The three Decepticon furry headmasters have heads completely different from their actual toy face
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>>6433821
Nobody was asking for a new Scoop, and we got a new Scoop. Scoop wasn't important in IDW, not enough to warrant a toy. It was pretty out of left field, anon.
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>>6433825
>wasn't important
>literally became the new leg for Devastator and tools around with the Constructacons as fairly big plot points
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>>6433832
>legs are important people
What's he been up to lately?
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>>6433824
Yeah, but we haven't seen something like an entire torso or arms being different, right? It's a pretty safe bet she'll have her normal head.
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>there's a titan master named Luinad
> Luinad backwards is Daniul(Daniel)
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>>6433834

Getting his shit kicked in by Trypticon.
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>>6433409
Definitely getting Beachcomber and probably getting Jazz and Starscream.
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>>6433840
Devastator, or Scoop? Because Scoop picking a fight with Trypticon is something I might pick up a comic to see.
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>>6433409
Beachcomber, Dreadwind, and Dreadwing for sure.
Still debating on Rodimus because I fucking hate that I have to already replace my TR Hot Rod when I was already hunting down the Rodimus TM.
If Rodimus, and Jazz get repainted into something else I want like RID Optimus, the Eurobots, or Lightspeed I'm getting them.

Fucking sucks that this is the first wave, though; knowing my country's retailers, the only ones who make discounts here, they will only stock this and then I'll have to pay US full retail plus 10 to 15 dollars more for anything I actually want like it happened with wave 4 of TR.
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>>6433847

Devastator.
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>>6433837
It's Leinad with the 'e', you see it in OPs pic
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>>6433409
I'll look at Beachcomber if I see him in store and if he looks nice enough I'll pick it up.

Get:
-Buster and Hydra
-Rodimus Prime

Pass:
-Skullgrin (I wanted Pretenders, but this isn't an improvement, at least make them Legend size with some decent articulation)
-Starscream (looks goofy, might get it if Thundercracker looks better)
-Jazz (doesn't look that impressive, and while he's a combiner, I don't have anyone to give him to)
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>>6433852
So what's Scoop been up to then? Being a leg? Anything else?
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>>6433801
Fuck that paintjob looks absolutely terrifying. A ruined figure.
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>>6433748
What is it called on the site? Hi-Def Acrylate?
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Im still wondering how this is supposed to work with other toys, there doesn't seem to be any 5mm pegs. From what we know so far it sounds like it'll fit PotP Voyager arms and that sounds quite limited.
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>>6433868
There is, it's between the legs. The part that splits him open is above it.
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>>6433868
I think it might be able to slot into combiner ports. It has grooves above the ankles.
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>>6433789
I hope so. That's my one gripe so far is that he's leader sized and not voyager. Galvatron's going to be 5'11 and Rodimus is going to be 6'0.
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I wonder how Takara will deal with this line. I can see them continuing the Titan Master line like they did before (vehicle/decoy with deluxe or larger, legends with a head), and while they'll probably stick the Decoy/Pretender with it's original coloration (like the recent trend with Ramhorn and Repugnus), I'm not sure if the TM's will end up gaining faces or keep the spark gimmick.

There's also the fact that the deluxes and voyagers are also meant to work as combiners, so will they release them in combiner box sets or sell them alone in their legends line?
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>>6433879
>POTP Galvatron, with Megatron inner robot

You're welcome, Hasbro.
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>>6433720

same, a Dai Atlas from that mold would be perfect.

though i hope they retool it if they make him.
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>>6433882
Takara does not release the $5 size class individually (TM vehicles and now PM Decoys), but it sounds like many of the "prime sparks" will be under the $5 class. Will they be packing all 13 prime sparks with other larger figure or will they ignore the primemaster concept altogether?
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>>6433801
Hey, other than a few imprecise greens, that doesn't look all that bad.
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>>6433882

Honestly, who cares? The Japanese continuity reads like some shitty fanfiction and is full of "AND THEN X DISAPPEARED FOREVER FOR NO REASON, THE END" style endings or openings. They even outright skip releasing shit because it doesn't fit whatever cockeyed view of things they have. I half wonder if Hasbro is doing this line just to drive them to autistic fits trying to retcon it to fit whatever the fuck is their madeup shit continuity.

The only good part of it has been the comics, and mostly because those trigger retards for daring to be cute and fun.
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>>6433891
I'm guessing they'll ignore the Prime Master concept, but will keep the Matrix and develop on why multiple characters have one (probably to reference the creation of the Energon Matrix in the far future of Japanese G1.

The Pretenders will probably lose the spark gimmick and gain faces.
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>>6433856

yup.

and still no Scrapper returning.
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>>6433895
If they do box sets, they might include new toys in some of them. With the Starscream mold, UW Leokaiser is a strong possibility, and the new armor gimmick could work as a new breast force gimmick.
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>>6433898
You'll see him again when IDW ends the comic like Chronicles of Narnia, everybody dies and goes to robot heaven and all the characters who've died are there.
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>>6433899
Oh hell, it might work.
>deluxe armor has TM, each breast force member comes with TM vehicle that's close to their animal, or gets retooled to match
>When deploying, they'll just have the vehicle and TM combine with each other
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>>6433821
Scoop was put in the comics because the toy was made and Hasbro wanted him to have a role in it for the pack in comics.
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>>6433904
Well yeah, but he'd shown up before with a completely different personality and religion.
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>>6433902

They don't have enough pages to put in all the dead characters. Remember, it's canon that only Iron Hide and Alpha Trion remain of all the known 'bts.
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Is there any way to pull off the rubber parts on Skullsmasher's head?
I removed the rubber piece on the lower jaw but the rubber pieces on the head and upper jaw are stuck.
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>>6433908
That was rectonned recently when Dark Cybertron destroyed Gorlam Prime, the world Ironhide saw in his vision. It's a major part of why he's so depressed after that event, because he was so certain it was going to happen, only for it all to come crashing down.
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>>6433908
I thought that future wasn't real, or got rewritten, or some such shit that made Ironhide uncertain about things. It's been a while since I picked up those comics though.
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>>6433865
Correct. Havent tried frosted ultra detail yet, but it seems hi-def acrylate is the only one that's good.
Unfortunately you pay about 10 dollars plus for a single legends scale head sculpt.
Bigger objects have insane prices.
Make sure you really want to start on this, because it also requires some modding skills and might go completely pear-shaped on your first try.
Weapons usually require no modding or painting, so you might want to try those first.
Im making my own Freeway and Moonracer with headsculpts I ordered there. It's kinda scary disassembling an old toy and customizing it. But it's also a lot of fun.
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>>6433903
>TM's have animal emblems instead of faces
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>>6433907
The only time Scoop showed up before he was getting a new toy was in Stormbringer and he barely said anything. There wasn't anything even established for him to be "completely different".
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So I just noticed TR Optimus/Laser Prime, and the Bumblebee/Roadburn molds have some defects.

Laser is minor, the window boob plate isn't aligned correctly and if you flip it without being careful, the first headlight at the top left will be deformed a bit.

Roadburn/Bee's section that connects the head and arms to the rest of the body is really misaligned. That black rectangle pin connection to the arm/head section is a bit misaligned and while not that noticeable in robot mode, it causes issues while transforming to vehicle mode, leaving a few areas with small gaps or with minor issues tabbing in.
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>>6433499
Someone send this to Simon Furman. He'll be thrilled.
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So what are the odds?
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>>6433995
I hate how he made her a tranny psycopath, why do girls have to be grim and edgy? I liked it when she was friendly and was a part of the gang.
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>>6433999
Who is that? a brainmaster?
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>>6434009
One of Road Ceaser's legs.
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>>6433999
unless its a toy designers or idw artists pet favorite itll be slim unless they are desperate for repaint options, which usually go to better known characters first
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>>6434012
Ah, I thought as much, well it's entirely possible. Combiners have gotten a reprieve, it would be foolish of hasbro to waste it.
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>>6433999
good chance for Takara to do their own thing possibly.
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Any things in particular you're hoping for from POTP? I'd like to see a Nova Prime and a Fallen. That Titanium Series one was a piece of shit.
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>>6434054
Yeah, you're getting the Fallen, he's going to be a Bludgedon Pretender with a Cube guy.
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>>6434054
If they don't do Leader class Star Saber and Thunderwing it's going to be a massive, MASSIVE missed opportunity.
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>Own G2 Laser Prime
>TR Prime
>Still want LG Black Convoy
>He's expensive as fuck

Damn it, the best version just had to be an exclusive.
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>>6433883
that would be amazing, have megatron turn into the barrel.
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>>6433499
Pre-op Arcee.
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>>6434091
That's pretty much what I was thinking, just make Megatron a tank that doubles as a huge turret for another tank. The best part is he's had the Matrix so it wouldn't feet out of place.

It's too bad the only Leaders with Matrixe's probably just going to be Thunderwing, Ultra Magnus, Optimus, Star Saber, and maybe Deathsaurus. I also want to say Grimlock but that would be crazy.
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>>6433641
ROM vs The Transformers seems like it's going to be a self contained story. 1st issue was pretty good.
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>>6434091
be careful what you wish for
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtIGl_cUkAEdVlq.jpg
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So I'll use dreadwind and darkwing with cw cyclonus, who else?
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>>6433533
Hasbro fucking up distribution people never even get to see the figures they actually want? Nah, that will NEVER happen.

Case in point. Nor Cal guy here. Been reading tons of reports of TLK Megs in LA area. Finally get a chance to go down there, and the stores have like 8 Grimlocks each and nothing else.

Congrats Hasbro. You failed spectacularly at milking more pennies out of old molds, and at the same time prevented yourself from profitting from a new toy that people actually like.

We make fun of Hasbro photographers, but their marketing team are even worse at not being absolutely retarded.
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>>6434144
Offroad and Rook for for NA version of Grand Galvatron
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You're in the club and this guy challenges you to a battle to the death for your girlfriend.

What do you do?
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>>6434189
Die a glorious death defending my honor.
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>>6434189
I do ur mom lol
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Are MP hand upgrade kits still a thing or would wanting new hands for MPM Bee be a waste of dreams?
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>>6434144
I knew I should have picked up Cyclonus when he was everywhere. He'd look great with those new limb bots.
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>>6434015
I dunno, I'd actually call it pretty likely. Nobody was expecting the Liokaiser set, especially not for Hasbro to release it in the west.

Basically, I think HasTak is somewhat following third party and looking at the characters coming out of it. Liokaiser was revealed basically at the tail end of CW, almost seemingly last minute which is after TFC had started putting Hades out and now TFC is working on their own Road Caesar that folks are getting excited about. I'd say it's pretty plausible that we'll see a RC box set at some point during the PotP line, especially because it takes very little effort to do repaints.
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>>6434202
The problem with RC is he's a 3 member team and his combination is weird. It could work, but they'll have to figure out how to make the third member (probably leader, he'd be too small as a voyager).
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>>6434211
They could probably do it with the standard CW "tech". Two leg bots and then the torso's legs extend and become the arms. Who knows.
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>>6434183
Rook is on defensor
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Huh.

I just got a shipping notification for MPM Prime.
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>>6434214
The best way I thought about it was by having 2 booster pods in vehicle mode that can detach and become arms by using ports.

The biggest issue is that the toy would essentially be identical in terms of parts forming, and I'm not sure everyone would like that.
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>>6434224
Yeah that's a pretty cool idea actually. They could just go on the top of the car or the back of the individual bot mode. And in a line of power up armor it would make sense.
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>>6433916
Oh, I'm not that guy.
I just wanted to check for the time I wanted to order something from them. No offense but I don't understand the ongoing race for more gril robots.
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>>6434080
If about 85 dollars is not that high for a premium voyager figure for you, there's one for 8500 yen on mandarake.
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>>6434239
Thanks, but the shippings just going to push it close to 95+, right? I'm trying to see if it drops more on ebay. I'm hoping to snag it at 70 or lower (I know, ridiculous, but I can't justify spending more).
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>>6434240
depends on the weight of it, i suppose.
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>>6434239
>>6434240

For the amount you're going to pay you can get the third party scourge from fanshobby.
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>>6434224
>booster pods in vehicle mode that can detach and become arms by using ports
You can't imagine how much I despise the 3P design cliche of giant-blocks-of-undefined-machinery-into-arms. I would prefer legs into mostly hollow arms.
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>Want to get a combiner
>No room for a toddler sized robot toy
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It turns into a power bank.

I always wanted that Soundwave they made last year. Is that thing any good?
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>>6434253
>toddler sized robot toy
Official combiners aren't that big, not even Devs.
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>>6434253
CW guys are like a foot tall mate, do you live in one of those chinese dog crate apartments or something?
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>>6434263
Yes.
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>>6434263
>chinese dog crate apartments
That would be a step up from my cat crate.
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>forced headmasters are finally gone
>new toyline that combines previous two gimmicks in a good way that's also ignorable
>armor power up gimmick will be perfect if they do optimal optimus, star saber, and thunderwing
>combiners are back and they even have ankle tilts now
>hinting that they'll finish the missing combiners

this is the true kino toyline. Titans Return fags can get fucked.
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>>6434249
>MUH DICK HUUUUUUUUUUGE MP scale
idunno man
If their Scourge was voyager scale I would've jumped on it long ago. An MP-sized Scourge would just be a giant in my shelf and have nothing to be posed with.

>>6434271
pls go back to /tv/
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Can they redo all the CW deluxes?

Jazz looks nice as fuck compared to all the heinous CW limbs.
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>show Primal in the promotional art
>not at the show though lulz

When's that stupid Hascon bullshit again?
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>>6434273
Stay tuned.
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>>6434211
well, LK was a 6 member team and none of the members were a dino bird. I could see them pulling similar liberties with RC. Like I said, it's very little work to put together a repaint as an homage to/reinvention of an older character.

The main question would be, if they're going with the standard 5 member team, what is the torso going to be? Are they just gonna repaint the Prime/MM mold because it's a road vehicle or is there going to be a voyager-sized carbot coming that they can repaint?
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W H E N ?
H
E
N
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>>6434275
We're probably going to have to wait for Toy Fair if the proto wasn't finished by the time of the initial poll.
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>>6434273
I like that they're actually using translucent plastic and lightpiping this time. Maybe they got the hint from Takara's Groove.
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>>6434282
If this happens, I am willing to bet at least two of them will be renamed.

My money is on "Cindertwin" and something entirely different from Cutthroat like "Diveburst" "Razorwing"
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>>6434260
Not really. Better than that garbage, but he still suffers from awkward kibble on his shoulders and limited articulation due to needing o be so flat. He also has to have a chunk of screen for the shield and a Laserbat to complete the altmode. The tablet isn't even that good, unless you don't mind it looking like you dropped it several time.

Point is they're novelties, and they aren't worth more than novelty price, which is well below what they will actually cost.
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They had a restock of the Chaos on Velocitron set and this Prime is just a babe
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>>6434317
got one as well recently, have to say i prefer his colors to the normal version.
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>>6434223
He's bad ass senpai.

>about to transform him for the first time here in a min

Am I the only one that absolutely hates it when a transformer comes packaged in robot mode?
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>>6434317
I kinda want that set but only for the Clone and Nautica

(like basically everyone else)
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>>6434337
the clones will be released in sets at somepoint. the twins not in the previous box are being released in two pack through walgreens in the US
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>>6434282
Hopefully never, I don't want to have even more CW bullshit chocked down my throat.
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>>6434341
I'm a bit confused about it all. I thought the Cloudraker/whatever beast clone aint out yet were the walgreens set?
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>>6434330
Nah, there was always something exciting as a kid taking a vehicle and pulling it apart to reveal the character inside. I suppose it's better for checking for defects in store though.
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>>6434344
I'll be happy as long as they eventually make the Seacons. They're my favorite team and they deserve some love!
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>>6434211
The two dekuxes become the feet. Their extra armor will be the fists for Road Ceasar. The Voyagers all come with these huge gauntlet accessories. Design them to be the owner arms. Voyager only needs to form the torso, head and upper arm /shoulders.

It limits its redeco value, but it's certainly possible.
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>>6434330
>>6434351
It's a bit of a mixed bag for me. I like it when toys come packed in vehicle mode because that means they're less likely to have any plastic bent in the package, but coming in robot mode usually lets you check for QC a lot better.

The only thing I completely hate is when a toy comes mistransformed. MPM Bee looks fucking broken out of the box and you have to transform him fully one way or the other before you can appreciate him at all.
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>>6433678
What I want:
>Bat"man" head
>Deluxe Transmetal Body
>Optimal Armor that also turns into a jet and tank like thing for him to ride in
More than likely:
>Matrix of Leadership in BW's style that sits in the cockpit of the Optimal Armor (cockpit can also house other heads/matrixes or Titanmasters)
>Gorilla with metal bits deluxe
>Optimal Armor that just makes a base
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>>6434348
the cloudraker walgreens set has started to leak but word was the other previously exclusive boxed twins are scheduled for a release later on this year. this other twin set is likely to be either toysrus or target exclusive
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>>6434337
The clone is the weakest figure in the set if you ask me. Not because he's a Legends figure, but his transformation is so boring and it transforms into a bunch of shapes. If they included a repaint of another Autobot car, maybe I'd feel something more. Like a snazzy Wheelie as Hubcap or Brawn as Outback. But I just feel underwhelmed.
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>>6434373
Oh cool
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>>6434375
agreed, hes even got vestigial parts for his twins transformation. i plan to sell mine and quickswitch; was given the g1
Quickswitch as a small child and hated the fuck out of it. i dont even remember what figure id wanted instead but im just autistic enough that part of me still hates this superior version. also already have sixshot so the repaint is pointless to me
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>>6434390
The colors didn't blend well in the pictures for Sixswitch for me, but they kinda grew on me in hand. My problem is I can't stick Rodimus head in it. The headcrest doesn't fit properly. It also helps I don't have Sixshot.
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Hey, more leaks.
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So next week is Wonfes in Japan. Does Takara usually show off anything there? I'm hoping that we'll finally get to see MP Dinobot's prototype.
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>>6434398
yeah the rodimus head is kinda underwhelming despite having been part of why i bought the set. the paint is poor, joints are massively tight and will be prone to chipping. also as youve said doesnt plug in nicely with the helmeted types. picked up a sential prime just to repaint to match him, but now were getting an official rodimus update.
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>>6434414

...okay...? Weird. Titan Masters didn't get cards before, yeah?
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>>6434414
How many times can they use the TM Blurr parts?
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>>6434414
3Ps win again?

>>6434421
I wasn't even aware there was more than one TM body for a while. TMs needed more body variety.
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>>6434414
yeah this is a little confusing. that head gonna be tiny on any appropriate magnus sized body. also worrying you cant see the actual face which will likely be missing his characteristic horns. so is it one of the power of the primes cube-not-really-a-head titan master figures?
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>>6434427
I mean, the card says Titans Return so it's probably not for POTP
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>>6434426
yeah they really should have done more variety even if it was just swapping limbs. i know its a waste of money but i would really have been down for titan master blind bags even if only to get more bots who normally dont get new figures
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>>6434427
No one knows, it showed up like 40 minutes ago.
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>>6434431
theres supposed to be a few titans marked figures releasing alongside potp
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>>6434260
>>6434302
But aren't they like 20 bucks or so? That doesn't sound so bad for novelty figures, especially considering how much more expensive the ones made by Takara are.
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>>6434414
He's got a face on his legs.
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>>6434414
As always, based leaker comes through where Hasblo fails.
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>>6434195
HAH Jokes on you I don't have a mom, I was raised by two dads so you get to fuck the more feminine one. Hope you enjoy gay hairy man anus, you cuked fag!
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>>6434451
a fine ultramagnus tradition
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>>6434457
Based leaker could finally show us the entirety of the new figures though.
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Diffed out the minicon team out of storage, they fit nicely with Tryp.

>>6434461
Unless hes the same douche that leaked the computron boxset art in black and white fragments.
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>>6434260
Both figures don't have head articulation, which completely turned me off.
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>>6434485
>don't have head articulation
>turned
kekles
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I think the only thing I really dislike about MPM Bumblebee is head articulation. Because of the downward angle of the chest he can't really look up without moving the entire body, and looking left and right results in the head being tilted kind of weirdly. He really should have had a ball joint neck.
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>>6434491
I mean, a figure without that much detail just doesn't turn heads for collectors!
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>>6434414
Lovely I bought the White Magnus Generations Legends figure to have a properly scaled Magnus for my City bots. I'd gladly take a even smaller one.

This way I can have Leader Ultra Magnus hault Around Classics Magnus, FoC Ultra Magnus while also having two mini Magni sit in the back.
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>>6434535
you should probably also have a minimus bringing up the rear
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>>6434540
He sits in the front in vehicle mode.
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>>6434145
>We make fun of Hasbro photographers, but their marketing team are even worse at not being absolutely retarded.

Since you WANT to buy their toys, the marketing team did its job.

The retard is the one who thinks Hasbro controls the distribution to your store.
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>>6434414
See >>6433384

>ultimate intelligence

Perhaps part of the intelligence boxset with Arcee?
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>>6433789
I genuinely can't wait for this glorious fucker.
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>>6434608
>>6433616
No more Titans Return box sets this year.
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Primitive Skateboard prime is appearing for sale on Hong Kong retailers,

Just ordered one. I really can't tell how popular it's going to be or if it's going to sell out on HTS but it beats sitting around on 8/14 waiting for it to go up.

But hey got the Chaos on Velocitron set this way and it turned out fine.
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>>6434615
Nothing about next year though
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>>6434616
Last year's Sentinel/Windblade/Brainstorm set hang around for a while.
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>>6434587
>according tp tfw2005 it's missing gender identity politics, the dangers of free speech, and how racism is bad and was invented by Donald Trump, and such other hard hitting messages that are typical in any enjoyable children's show.
>Also every toy must be Masterpiece grade and be based off a real licenced vehicle, no pretenders, no monster or animal combiners, just Altenators 24/7.
This sounds like someone who doesn't go to tfw bitching about tfw
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>>6434615
>>6434618

We better get a set with Iron Apex and my boys Frenzy and Eject.
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>>6434634
>Putting Frenzy and Eject in boxsets
>That are exclusives
>That sell out too fucking fast
>That will happen for each
Can't we get a standard retail release? At least a Cloudraker/Wingspan type deal. Why would hasbro suddenly drop such compulsory redecos after all these years?
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>>6434330
I'm just surprised I got the notification. It's about a month sooner than expected.
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>>6434642
>cleans up back kibble
>skips out on paint in the back
>paint the half of the exhaust pipes that face backwards
?
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>>6434615
the cereal box and leaks confirms the intelligence and fireblasts are in the works.
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>>6434096
They don't have to be matrixes, they just have to be some device
One will be the key to vector sigma i bet
Another the heart of darkness
Primal and bw megs might just have spark cores
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I'm contemplating on which Wei Jiang MPP10 I should buy. Hope the people of 4chan could help.
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>>6434301
They'll just call them Twinstrike and Windrazor like the Beast Hunters version
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>>6434684
>buying a fake version of Worst Prime
Shame on you.
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>>6434676
Hell, one of them might be that Dark Spark nonsense from the 3rd game. I could also see Solus Prime having a hammer with a cavity in the face for her Forge
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>>6434684
Why not get the Hasbro reissue coming out soon that's weighed down by accessories instead of metal?
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>>6434651
Yeah, I'm really seeing the Hasbro part on the MPM releases.
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>>6434684
Get the Nemesis because the character is supposed to be a knock-off Prime?
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>>6434706
This.
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>>6434344
Prepare to be disappointed in PotP Deluxes and Voyagers then.
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>>6434414
>Card of a master

Don't tell me this is going to be in the last wave of TR but it is actually supposed to be prime master. Like the few cassette legends showing up in CW before TR Blaster even is announced.
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>>6434732
it's probably a boxset.

thunderwing and rodimus from the strength/speed boxsets are listed in the cereal as proving ultimate strength/speed boosts while Ultra Magnus is listed there for ultimate intelligence and Scorponok for ultimate firepower.
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>>6433482
>using the bland, hideous, cartoon accurate bumper
Truly worse than Hitler.
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>>6434414
Looks like Fangry's TM body
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>>6434769
Looks more like loudmouth's body with fangrys head, and who knows whos face.
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uguuu
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Local ToysRUs just got Trypticon, Six Shot and Sky Shadow in stock, does getting Trypticon mean next week they're getting Blitzwing and Octone?
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>>6434896
Where? We got Wave 5 Deluxes two weeks ago in Singapore and it's been dry since.
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>>6434913
Except for the Siege of Cybertron boxset I guess. Most dealers here got it in this week for SGD160. I'm still not sure if I should get it, I'm not feeling the impulse for any of the molds in that set.
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Hey anons, anyone know what these are called? I've had them for years now
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>>6434928
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Robot_Heroes_(toyline)
They have so much more paint than their current incarnations.
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>>6434913
California
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>>6434930
Thanks!
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>>6433384
i wish that were a real cereal, but then theyd just add those shitty marshmallows
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>>6434941
But the marshmallows are the best part?
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>>6433499
Fucking called it.
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>>6434952
>CRRRRRRUUUNNCCCHHHH squeak
no
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Dotm megatron
Dotm voyager ironhide
HA bee
fireburst prime
which one is the best pick? all $20
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>>6434967
I just want a box of nothing but the marshmallows, to me the cereal pieces are just lightly iced cardboard.

Also fuck you you bastard, I'm craving lucky charms now and its 3am.
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>>6434974
Megatron or Sky Hammer are pretty good.
Never got Optimus because I never found the Fireburst version at a good price and its proportions are weird anyways.
All I remember of that one Ironhide is that its arms are shit, the chest is tricky to lock, and the legs are really long.
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>>6434974
I always see people saying that Ironhide there is one of the better ones, and I have no idea where that comes from as it looks like shit and has weird articulation. Megatron is the only other one I own there and he's pretty alright, wish we had a Leader version though.
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>>6434330
> Am I the only one that absolutely hates it when a transformer comes packaged in robot mode?
Only when he comes packaged with instructions starting from alt mode.
*glares at Toys 'R Us Smokescreen*

>>6434426
I dunno, can he still fit in Minimus Boringus?
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>>6434993
You're thinking of the Leader DOTM Ironhide.
That's one of the best movie Ironhides.
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>>6434687
Oh really? I flat out ignored the BH release but that still makes a lot of sense. I'm still laughing pretty hard that I was at least right about the characters being renamed.
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Finally getting MP10, what am I in for?
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>>6435009
Happiness
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>>6434459
I'm counting on it, anon.
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>>6434260
>turns into a power bank

So this is the Power of the Prime!
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>>6433499
I sure hope they don't make a STARSABER out of BLURR and a DEATHSAURUS out of TWINFERNO.
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>>6434684
I have the red one coming in mail from china. This is actually my first transformer ever. It just looked SO good in reviews.

I decided I will collect ONLY knockoffs. More to act as a fiddle around toys while I work from home. Also collecting knockoffs saves me money and prevents me from wanting to be a completionist (usually when I buy a figure in line I need to have them all, unless theyre KO).
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>>6435046
Next One I have my eyes on is the Warbotron OS KO.
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>>6433384
Alright, so what are the chances that the new Jazz is a foreshadowing to Road Caesar?
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I just realized POTP Rodimus looks really similar to the unproduced beefy Rodimus toy.
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>>6435033
CARLOS!!!!
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>>6434684

Can't really go wrong with either, both are fucking great.
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>>6433395

This is the only thing I've been wanting to hear about too.
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>>6433616

Just give me new fucking beast wars goddamn it.
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>>6434414
>Headmaster Ultra Magnus
Overload repaint please?
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>>6435074
Fucking shill in my tfg
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>>6435006
I fully get where that's coming from, I've got both figures, but I have seen people praise that Voyager for some reason. Maybe it's the cannon he comes with.
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>>6434974
Megatron and Skyhammer. Best altmodes and articulation.
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I've noticed that TR Windblade seems to be better in hand than on her stock photos. Is she actually worth buying, /tfg/?
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>>6435178
Well, do you want to support any of the following?
>Unpainted inner hands
>Forced female characters
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>>6435188
At this point they do those with or without anyone's support.
Theres no major competition for transforming sentient mechanical aliens
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>>6435188
>support unpainted inner hands
Yes.
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Best transformer of 2017 so far?
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>>6435290
The largest one ever made, of course.
I meant ur mom, pic unrelated hahaha u got trolled XDDDDD
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>>6435290
I'd say Tlk Megatron for voyagers and Triggerhappy for the deluxes and for Leaders I'd go with Sky Shadow.
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>>6435290
Trypticon definitely. Who doesn't love a Transformer that will break the first time you move its legs?
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>>6435290
Per line?

MP: draw between Primal-Artfire
Gen: Takara Blurr, Triggerhappy and his moldmates in a close second place.

Honorary mention to Trypticon for being better than FortMax even with his hip issues.
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>>6435188
>Forced female characters
I like girl-robots and used to collect the rare example of them before our current fembot-heavy era. I'm alright with it, gimme some of those IDW lesbian robots Hasbro, I'll take a Nickle too while you're at it.
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>>6433384
Hey all. Put together the first checklist for POTP.
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>>6435316
Quick revision! I just noticed that Rod's Matrix was holding a Prime Master, and not the classic Matrix core. Whether Cloudburst or Vector actually show up in the first wave we still don't actually know.
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>>6435316
Really weird they didn't showed the last TR wave, was the chart updted with Arcee and Magnus?

>Phoenix/Cloudburst.
Nice, more Masterforce cast.
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>>6435329
I haven't put Arcee or UM on my TR list yet, since we have no fucking clue where they go.
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>>6435210
>Theres no major competition for transforming sentient mechanical aliens

3rd party general?
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>>6435346
>major competition
Not a minor vocal minority.
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>>6435324
Wait, Dreadwing and Blackwing are not in the same wave? For fucks sake.
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>>6435360
They did the same withe the first CW and TR waves, dividing teams between waves to keep "buyer engagement".
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>>6435360
>make characters that go together
>never release them side-by-side
What the fuck is their problem, anyway? I really wanted the clones but godforbid they just fucking sell them to us directly, fuck box-sets.
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>>6435360
"We don't want two similar looking jets in the same wave. Especially when we're only going to order 1 case of wave 1."
- Walmart exec.
>select street signs ad nausuem
Godsdammit.
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>>6435365
Use legacy captcha my dude, check the settings
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>>6435365

At least Hasbro's finally been getting smart and double/triple packing popular characters now, VS "lol 1 Prime/Hotrod/whatever per box".
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>>6433897
>The Pretenders will probably lose the spark gimmick and gain faces.
Why does everyone keep saying they don't have faces? Liege Maximo clearly has one, it's just a glowy window face like some of the new Pacific Rim designs, or Cybertron Menasor.
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>>6435360
Ironically enough, you'll probably find Blacking easily since he's wave 2, and wave 1's coming out at the start of the year.

My local stores barely stocked wave 3 of TR at the start of the year, or only stocked one case before getting more revision wave 2. Good luck!
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New breado:

>>6435393
>>6435393
>>6435393
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>>6433616
Shockwave should be a race car like Transtech
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>>6435375
Did you really like the wall of Bumblebee from before?
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>>6435365
You joke, but considering how dire B&M retail is these days, it's not at all surprising.
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>>6435136
That's odd. I clearly remember people thinking the cannon was worthless and goofy.

Must be just that transfags have the weirdest fucking taste; they are the same people that constantly shit on MP36 but don't mind the prospect of having to build an airtight chamber so their TR Rubber Soul doesn't fall to pieces the week after it's been opened and won't even complain about Hot Dog's breakage issues unless anonymous.
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>>6435188
>Unpainted inner hands
I just stopped caring about the looks of hands since HasTak dropped the half open hands they used to do. These fucking cubes with a hole will look ugly no matter what
Still better than the forced female characters, though.
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>>6435499
Okay, I know who Rubber Soul is, but who the hell is Hot Dog?
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