Transformers General, Going back to G1 Edition

>>6420978
No, because I like to play with my mode changing plastic robots

>>6420978
As a child of the 80s, I still have some of my G1 stuff (mostly late G1, and then the reissues during G2)
With the past few years revamping a lot of G1, there's really only a small handful I still want.
Scorponok and Trypticon. The new Trypticon is pretty nice, but A) it doesn't walk, and B) I can really only justify one $100+ transformer purchase every few years, unless I go an entire year without purchasing any. So if I bite the bullet on Tryp, and then they announce scorp for next year or the year after, I'm fucked.

My more recent G1 purchases were powermaster Optimus Prime and Galvatron, neither of which I paid more than 50 to get them complete.

>>6420978
Nah, I love G1 concepts and designs, but their execution was limited by their budgets and enginery, thats one of the main reasons why I love TR.

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I'm a poor nostalgia fag, so I just stare from afar.

>>6421006
That feel gives me suicidal tendencies.

>>6420978
I'm in my 20s man. I don't have nostalgia for G1. Beast Wars maybe.

How much of Nitro Zeus's nosecone is rubber/soft plastic?

>>6421027
No one has it yet. I don't think you should stick it up your butt either way.

>>6420978
I've been trying to get a Master Force collection started. G1 us the only way to get six of the main Pretenders so far. It's also pretty reasonable since they aren't very popular.

Complete Power Masters are more than most 3rd party toys. The Headmaster Jrs aren't much better. But they're still my best shot at getting those characters.

I'm not really going for scale, just some representation of the cast. I've got a couple of God Ginrais. The actual original mold was reissued a couple of times the past decade, so it will be my display piece. When it comes out, the Maketoys Thunder Manus to mess with.

There's a KO of Browning that is pretty reasonable. That's a great classic mold.

The reissued Seacons are a great display piece as well.

The Titans Return or Takara Legends Overlord will more than satisfy my desire for the character.

I'll go 3rd Party for my Sixknight, Black Zarak and Grand Maximus. The 3P Sixknight just looks better for a quarter the price. Iron Factory Black Zarak and Toyworld Grant are decent substitutes for the G1 molds.

There were licensed action figures made of Ginrai and Minerva. Those are part of this collection too.

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>>6420978
>tfw you no longer care for most of your G1 figures
I really regret spending all that money on Scorponok and Overlord, but they were holy grails at the time.
Hopefully I'll get my shit together soon so I can start selling stuff.

James Roberts retweeted sales listings of Third Party Transformers on his Twitter page. Is Hasbro gonna fuck him up?

>>6421123
Sure hope so.

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Any galleries of Windblade headswaps yet?

>>6421123
What was the listing? Robots that you can shove up the ass of other robots?

>tfw still collect G1 figures because like the style

>>6421144
Probably just figures of his Literal Who Squad.

>>6421059
And once you've sold them you'll eventually end up regretting it

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>>6420990
Uh? If you look closely at the picture, I'm not a MISB faggot. Also, no one is made out of gold plastics. When I buy a super expensive G1, I make sure and can safely transform it back and forth and go PEW PEW PEW without worry.

The unplayable Transformers that are too fragile is a MODERN thing. I gave my local geek shop the Disney Label "bumblebee" Donald Duck because of that. Shit look like is made out of glass.

The G1 are TOYS. Meant to be played with. And even though Chromedome look like a total derp, it's very simple and fun to transform and go so well whit his TR incarnation.

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>>6421004

I can understand the feeling. And that's also why I now love my TR Chromedome even though I once called it a "Combiner Wars regect".

Pic related show even more what 30 years of thecnology evolution brought to Transformers.

Got Nitro Zeus and Hot Rod yesterday.

Believe the hype on Nitro, he's pretty great. Reminds me of the ROTF days.

Hot Rod's meh. I'd like him better if he came with weapons, right now I just got him holding Hound's tiny miniguns underslung.

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>>6421024

Even if you have no nostalgia for G1 because you are too young, you can still find some unexpected fun treasures.

G1 Optimus Prime have been reissued more times than cockroaches can reproduce so he's easy and relatively cheap to obtain. He's also one of the best early G1 figures. Also, the first generation of G1 had diecast all over so they are quite hefty and satisfying to handle.

If you love oddballs transformers the Pretenders are very fun. If you don't care about the missing gun or armor piece, the price can be reasonable and you may have some fun and laugh at the concept of a minibot hiding in a human/monster shell.

>>6421165
The G1 Prime KO is $40, and while it has some tiny flaws(wheels don't always roll well) it's better shape than a beat up G1 original and doesn't have short stacks like the Hasbro reissues.

At this point, if you don't own a G1 Prime, you don't want one.

The only reason I can't suggest an Ultra Magnus over Prime is that... well, face it, that thing only looks good from the front, and the shoulder rockets aren't evenly aligned. More play value form the combination doesn't totally balance it being a poor display piece.

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>>6421155
Fuck, you're probably right.

>>6421156
Not the same guy but I totally agree, fuck fragile transformers.
It almost feels like they do it on purpose so parents will buy new ones for their kids. Especially with the Wolfwire repack having the exact same issue as before.

Who here /tfcon?

>>6421165
>Vroom
My negro!
>Roadblock
What's the condition of the little bot?

>>6421170
>Especially with the Wolfwire repack having the exact same issue as before.
Someone better ask Warden about this at HasBeenCon.
>instead the question will be "WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE TLK ONSLAUGHT?!"

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>>6421155
Sold my childhoods G1 Apeface (100% complete) years ago in my early TF collecting days for 85$CAN because it was yellowed and had a loose ape-arm ratchet.

Years of regrets later I recently bought a complete (but in great condition) Apeface for 180$CAN, counting shipping and customs.

Sigh...

>>6421170
>It almost feels like they do it on purpose so parents will buy new ones for their kids

It's not really that- Hasbro still thinks kids will "lose interest in a year" and more or less sees the collectors/fans as almost a tertiary market so they get cheap on production, it's the same with all their lines and many other companies. Material and transit costs did go up in recent years, albeit not to the point of some of the retail price hikes we've had so companies have cut costs and raised prices, but with primary sales to kids/parents not being affected, they don't have to give a shit if the fans complain. Hell, the fans are still buying it regardless. Complaints mean shit if sales are strong enough.

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>>6421178
I feared it might just explode in my hands. But amasingly, I don't think he's made out of the usual Gold Plastics. It even feel rubbery. I dared to transform and pose him several times and so far, nothing is broken! It's amazing. Also, Vroom and Crossblades are so bad, so ugly, that I can't help but love them!
Aslo, my local G1 source took random shit in trade and gave me two of my holy grails. G1 Bludgeon and Thunderwing! Those two are amazing and it amaze me more that I was able to get them in one feel swoop!

Now if only G1 Sky Shadow was not 2000$...

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Speaking about pre-millenium figures, I'm totally in love with how simultaneously stupid and awesome this Convoy looks. The whole shellformer thing doesn't even bother me, those horns look absurdly menacing in robot mode and the fact that we actually got a fucking mammoth Prime is ridiculously cool enough by itself.

Anyone around here owns this beast? Is it worth 60 euros (about ~70 dollars) MISB on Ebay?

>>6421192
Crossblades too! Lucky duck.

>>6421194
I have the Nemesis Prime version. He's great. Would recommend.

>>6421194
I just got the Nemesis Prime repaint yesterday. He's pretty fun, worth it.

>>6421194

He's great.

You can remove all his kibble and basically make an entire god damn mammoth out of it, so that's fun.

>>6421027

None. It splits apart into one of his arms. Turns into like a cross bow weapon.

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>>6421156
Eh, that might be true for post-cartoon figures like Pretenders / Headmasters / Turbomasters / etc. but if you're into the really early figures, like Dialcone-based ones and season 1/2 releases, you will find that they're the most delicate and fragile things ever made. Just a few days ago I decided to play around a little with my Encore Jazz after leaving it on display for maybe two or three months and apparently that was enough for his rifle post to get stuck inside the peg, to the point where pulling it out basically broke the post. Might be because of the terrible vaccum metalized plastic, which is unfortonately something almost every single early G1 figure has.

Still, I do love collecting vintage figures, and it's neat to see them being discussed in /tfg/. Hopefully I'll get pic related one beautiful day.

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>>6421171
Here

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For having grown up with the old RiD, this thing is fucking amazing.

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>>6421212
I think MP Delta Magnus really should've came with the super buggy, I'm tempted to get one nonetheless since I missed out on Ultra Magnus.

>>6421229
>that
>amazing
kek

>>6421220

How many people in line? Should i even bother to come at 11?

>>6421229

How much did you pay?

>>6421231
At the very least the paintjob certainly is desu.

>>6421235
Well of course, it is a Takara product after all.

>>6421233
The line is stretched all the way back to the pool

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This is probably crazy late to ask--
But is a there a decent version of Sqweeks, third party or otherwise, that doesn't look as blocky as the Hasbro version?

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>>6420978
>tfw got no interest in TR Misfire because the G1 version still holds up

>>6421192
>Vroom
That fucking name though.

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>walk into tru
>see leader tlk figures
>people were right about the silver paint
That's not how you do dry brushing or highlights that's something a 12yr thought was cool
>dat leader prime

Anyone who buys it is braindead
>more random splotches of silver
>ALL chrome has been removed
>LESS paint applications than previous hasbro releases
>still same price as initial releases if not higher in some countries

What the hell was hasbro thinking, megatron ain't perect but at least he's a new mold and you don't notice the shitty silver splotches until you come up close.

Prime is just a tall blue thing until you see how shitty he is in hand, ick

>>6421171
>>6421220
Anyone going on Sunday funday?

>>6421234
Too much, my friend.

>>6421231

That Prime mold is pretty good, once you forget about the jet mode.

>>6421229
I still think the old RiD toy is better. And as for a new version, fans Hobby already gave me a near perfect MP version.

>>6421231
>>6421313
And maybe paint up the rims and do something about the stickers.

Wanted the laser prime repaint but those giant ass stickers are helpful for the appearance so stuck to the retail one ripped the stickers off and now painting up the rims, it makes for a good dual homage to star convoy with its color scheme

>>6421192
Man, I remember those Fraggle Rock toys that came with happy meals in the mid 80's. To be a kid again

>>6421322
I had them in my childhood and I lucked into 3 of them at a thrift shop for dirt cheap. So I paid just a bit more to get the 4th one on Ebay. They are very nice and they have that nostalgia aura about them. That's why they are displayed in the living room.

>>6421229

Yeah not a fan of the mold in general, but it surprisingly works great for Scourge. Even more impressive that it works for all modes, too.

>>6421292
Im attending archer's workshop

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>>6421000
Isn't Omega the next titan? I got Tryp and am loving it, I don't think there are small motors powerfull enough to make him walk, hes heavy.

>>6421339
>Isn't Omega the next titan?
Source?
>I don't think there are small motors powerfull enough to make him walk, hes heavy
Custom made ones theoretically could, ones we buy ourselves...dunno.

But he's so big and hollow he could of had them in, personally I'd rather poseability over him walking

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>>6421343
>I'd rather poseability over him walking
Same here, but I do miss the electronics, I'm thinking on getting one of those giftcard recording chips that can record 5 sound clips, i'm going with transformation 2 sounds, "Die Autobots" a random laser and still undecided on the last.

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>>6421194
Absolutely recommended. He's like God emperor of shell formers, but somehow it works for him. Like each piece of kibble is at least supposed to be a cannon or something, not just random pieces of shell hanging off him. Plus great poseability, great sculpting, and probably one of my favorite headsculpts ever.

>>6421336
Mine will never see plane mode.

>>6421158
Outside of the backpack, the G1 looks nicer.

>>6421409
No it doesn't

>>6421411
I prefer the thinner legs and smaller wheels. Makes his robot mode look better. TR figure has huge honkin' boots and giants wheels, so his tiny feet just look all the more goofy.

>>6421416
I prefer =/= looks nicer

If you like rectangles with legs and arms no problem, just don't try to think it's any better then an actually well proportioned bot

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>>6421419

Sometime the G1 can look nicer. But too many times, the G1 original is quite sad.
Still, even at 20$CAN, I'm glad I bought the original G1 Brawn, just for the legacy.

>>6421451
>Good
>Sad
>Great
>What

>>6421339
If we go by results, Omega was last so the next one should be Scorponok.

>>6421229
Could you scan the comic? No one's posted that, yet.

>>6421452
>"What" for the Titan Master

"What" indeed...

Guy that ordered that CW Ultra Mangus off Ebay, I apparently won't reach a peaceful solution with the seller. Now I have to see how I'll get a Minimus Ambus.

Is the guy who wanted to give me one still around?

>>6421597
kek sorry anon, what was the seller's response? Did you open a case on them?

>>6421273
>What the hell was hasbro thinking

"The movie is shit and our fans-Real fans-never liked it. Lets put out garbage for kids and those fake fans, and concentrate on Generations like we have been".

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>>6421475
Sure. Here's some from my ancient scanner.

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>>6421610

>>6421603
He's basically trying to cover his ass over his own fuck up. He knows he fucked up, but only wants to pay 4 dollars. I told him that was ridiculous since the last one that sold on Ebay was for 12 dollars. Then he stopped answering.

I'm giving him 6 hours. If he doesn't answer in the 48 hours I gave him, I'll open the case.

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>>6421617

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>>6421620

>>6421623
>>6421620
>>6421617
>>6421610
Thanks. If only Black Convoy wasn't so fucking expensive, I'd get one to pair with my UW Baldigus.

>>6421609
>concentrate on Generations like we have been
Be sure to let me know when they actually start doing that.

>>6421629
>Be sure to let me know when they actually start doing that.

Since CW, Anon. Thats why we got good combiners disguised as a Deluxe and Voyager line. Shit no one else has been willing to do. Thats why we got good Headmasters.

>>6421610
So that base mode is official? I thought it was something someone just fanmoded.

>>6421610
>>6421617
>>6421620
>>6421623
Damn, the molds expensive enough, you don't need to tell me it's mass produced!

>>6421209
Thank you for your answer of "none" but what came after it was superfluous and assumptive stating of infomation. Nothing about it splitting apart prevents it from not being hypothetical rubber/soft plastic.

>>6421637
Sakamoto loves putting fan-modes in his comics.

>>6421652
In this case, I don't remember that fanmode showing up before it did in the comic, but the other one (the TR Voyager Prime with the tail fin acting as a drone eye) did show up before this.

>>6421637
If it wasn't before then it is now via its depiction in this officially published fiction.

>>6421623
>yet another T-AI repaint
When will Sakamoto get fired

>>6421668
Hopefully never.

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>>6421637
As official as the twin head dragon altmode for Scourge/Sweeps.

>>6421636
Yeah, I've been getting way more figures per wave since late thrilling 30-CW.

>>6421675

Why does one Magnus have a faceplate?

>>6421675
>2 UM
>2 Minimus Ambus

This hurts me so much.

Also, is that face mod from the upgrade kit?

>>6421682
Its the DNA addon kit, it includes interchangeable faceplates.

>>6421194
You can still find the sonokong korean releases. They are the same figure just a bit cheaper.

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>>6421687

Yeah, but...Why? I mean, what is it supposed to represent? Magnus has never had a faceplate that I remember, and if it's supposed to be the White Prime inside of the original G1 toy, it's head never did that anyway unless you took the, and it wasn't blue faceplated either.

Is it supposed to be an homage of something I don't know about?

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>>6421683
>2 Minimus Ambus
The takara got Minimus repainted as Alpha Trion, the add on it the DNA set, it includes new arms with articulated wrists and fingers, new head with 3 faces, new feet with ankle joints and a huge rifle.

>>6421692
Oh, didn't notice one was the Takara UM. Ok, back to trying to find a Minimus Ambus online, if only that blind bag RID figure didn't exist!

>>6421691
>but...Why?
No idea, I was going to sale the CW but they look different enough to keep both, I call him "Magnus Prime".

>>6421597
>>6421683
Why don't you get that upcoming 3rd party White prime that can combine with the cw leader?

>>6421619
Did you ask about what happened to his Minimus Ambus?

>>6421702
Yes, he said he has no idea where it is.

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>>6421700
*sell* had a brainfart.

>>6421695
Good luck Annon, dude is pretty fun.

>>6421702
You need both upgrade kits for it, so it's pretty expensive.

>>6421619
I'll sell mine if you want.

>>6421731
Why not? What's your actual Email? I'm in Puerto Rico so I have no idea how much the shipping will cost.

>>6421743
is my actual email

>>6420978
Nah, I simply realized that modern TFs aren't giving me the same kind of kick the originals do.

Also some G1 toys are surprisingly cheap. I got my Classic Pretender Starscream in the original box and paperwork for like 50 bucks.

>>6421752
It keeps telling me this email doesn't exist.

>>6421130
I wish I could find a windblade.

>>6421758
try this im retarded

Anyone have a AoE voyager hound they want to get rid of?

>>6421273
I've been waiting for the Revoltech/Vulcanlog since the design was first shown and they still don't deliver.
The new truck is tacky as fuck as well so I don't understand how is it that people are still expecting a good toy or a good display piece out of a transforming HasTak AOE Optimus.

>>6421772
I would be willing to be rid of mine. I didn't like him much.

>>6421355
Man, he actually looks really great. Shame the size is wonky next to Metroplex.

>>6421620
Skimpy anime girls.

Bless Sakamoto.

>>6421799
Weapons and all? How much are you willing to sell him for?

>>6421815
Yeah all the weapons. Would you make an offer?

>>6421825
To be honest I really only want his weapons, so I'm not too sure what a fair offer would be.

>>6421826
Eh I'd rather sell the figure complete to someone.

>>6421834
Alright, I'll start at $20. Here's my email.

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>>6421805
>size is wonky next to Metroplex.

Not that noticiable in hand, hes so bulky wou'll be more worried about his tail not hitting anything.

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>>6421451
The saddest G1 toy gotta be Wheelie though.
The toy art for it was fucking horrifying too, and probably gave the children nightmares.

>>6421610
Bless you.

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>meanwhile, in Canada.....

I'll buy G1 if its cheap

>>6421889
What makes it even sadder is that he was the only new minibot mold from '86.

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>>6421960
>Meanwhile, in America...

A-at least they cost less... sometimes...

>>6421130
I kinda want to take one, paint it orange, and give it a third party Sari Titan Master faceplate I found a while ago

>>6421814
Indeed. I bet it triggered the allspark, too.

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>>6421165

Get yourself Strangehold, he's my favourite Pretender.

>>6422163
Welcome back, Mr. Kotter.

>There are people in this thread that want Minimus Ambus
>No one's angry or screaming over this

Am I in an alternate TFG?

>>6422200
It was probably only one guy who hated him, and he said it enough that other people memed it in an attempt to be clever. Notice how slow these threads are going the past few days? I imagine we're down to just the reasonable people.

>>6422200
If it makes you happy I still think he's a shit character and I hate the concept.

>>6422200

Shitposters must be out. Maybe their parents took away their laptops as punishments for being shitheads in real life?

>>6422203
>It was probably only one guy who hated him
It's corpse-armor faggot.

>>6422200
It's ok to want Minimus Ambus, it's wrong to call him Ultra Magnus.

>>6422163

Mayor Haggar ?

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>>6422163
Did they ever explain why he and Longtooth had their factions swapped?

>>6422243
Heard it at a Botcon, years ago.
>"Late one night, me and Schumltz were sitting around the designer's desk and Schulitz said, "what would happen if we switched these guys for shits and giggles?" So we did, and the rest, as they say, is history."

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OP here. I went to my local geek store today and I unloaded a HUGE quantity of random transformers. Most were not worth mentioning but I did gave Alternity Optimus and Megatron, and Beast Wars Big Convoy as the TFs with the most value. I also gave the Revoltech Queen's Blade Ymir and Noah, having lost interest in those. It was still two HEAVY bags of random Transformers for the most part.

Anyway, tose toys given gave me over 400$CAN in store credits so I finally got back the last lost Transformers from my childhood, G1 Defensor!

And because I love the Combiner Wars version so much, I also got G1 Computron.

And I just had to add an extra 40$ in cash to get an unplanned and unexpected G1 Transformers, Doublecross A.K.A Twinferno!

Everything in perfect shape and 100% complete of course! I'm happy as child on Xmass day!

And because

>>6422200
I like the A3 version of him a lot.

He's like half the reason I got the LG Ultra Magnus.

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>>6422333

Man, if I could slap the little brat I was when I got rid of Defensor... I hated G1 Scramble City combiner because the latest I had were the Seacons reissue and RiD Ruination. Both felt incredibly cheap, like some KOs.

But Defensor is the real deal, with diecast parts and everthing. It's solid and I think he hold up even today.

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>>6422344

Computron was a "why not" purchase. I planned instead to get G1 Dreadwing & Darkwing, but those Powermasters have their gimmicks so flawed from the get-go that they were a pain to fiddle with. Also, breakage risks everywhere. So, nope.

So, how is Computron? MARVELOUS! Stattershot is worth the price of admission by himself! The thing is BIG, even in vehicle mode. So big in fact, why bother combining? Also, the transformation of all the bots gave me some serious surprises in how clever they were designed.

No regrets at all.

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>>6422348

And finally, the unexpected find, Doublecross.
Because my TR Triggerhappy came with two right "sled guns", making combining them impossible, I complained to Hasbro. A few hoops jumped through later and I got in the mail a random TR Twinferno. I found that figure to be ugly, stupid, and derpy. I even thought of getting rid of it. Still, I kept it in the end just for the novelty.

Having some cash left in store credit, I found the original, G1 Doublecross and even though the TR is trash in dragon mode, the G1 look FANTASTIC! Plus, his stickers were perfect and even the spaks gimmick still work.

Having played with it I can confirm that unlike G1 Chromedome and G1 Highbrow, G1 Doublecross is clearly the superior toy compared to TR Twinferno.

>>6421960
>30 dollars for the loosest shit since my bathroom break after eating at Taco Bell last week

>>6421805
>>6421881
Personally I think it works well between them. Trypticon is bulky and monsterous while Metro is tall and heroic

>>6421881
How long is that shelf? I'd like to do something similar.

>>6422333
Are the stickers in any good condition? It's a little hard to tell on the picture.

>>6422360
just slather floor polish all over them senpai, that will fix hasbro's shitty qc

>>6421960
>movie fanboys will eat it up regardless

TFcon was weird this year. I came in bought one of the 2 things I wanted and I was pretty much set.

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>>6422356
>I found that figure to be ugly, stupid, and derpy

But he's not stupid, he's a doctor!

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>>6422388
60 inches.

>>6422211
Welcome back.

>>6422411
Oh LOL! That's mean and brilliant!

Also, I have to admit that TW Twinferno grew on me. And having the G1 make it even better!

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Takara wins again.

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Neat little attention to detail on LG Chromedome here (gold painted wheel mounts)

>>6422483
This is your gold sharpie

This is a really random question, but can anyone confirm if Universe Ravage (the one that came with Hound) can fit in the tape deck of a G1 Soundwave? Contemporary reviews all say that he does, but they were all using the double-deck Soundblaster mold that was used for the reissues of Soundwave, not the original mold that only holds one tape at a time. I'm looking to fix up my old Soundwave and want to get him a little buddy.

>>6422471
This is so weird. Why not just reissue Blur with a Targetmaster?

>>6422506
because then the people who already have blurr would have to buy blurr again.

at least this way they're also getting a different toy.

>>6422471
is blurr still a headmaster here?

>>6422520
Considering what they did with God Ginrai, it's not like Takara gives a crap if they fuck their consumer base over.

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>>6422081
My local walmart took down the big pallet display. Moved all of it onto the normal 1 1/2' wide section of shelf space.
Nothing new now for 2 months.

Oh well, not like Walmart is going to carry MP TFs ever again.

>>6422483
I thought this was pretty cool, too. I ended up putting the wheels on my Hasbro Chromedome because I liked him better overall, but the paint/plastic quality on LG Chromedome was definitely higher. I just couldn't get over all the bland surfaces. Cartoon accuracy is a curse.

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>>6422546

5 minutes with some gold model paint or a gold sharpie would've fixed the problem though.

>>6422541
>what Takara did with God Ginrai

What, the packing of the unnecessary heads only Headmaster Juniors? Nobody cares about those unless they make Transtectors for them.

>>6422569
Eh. I was curious to see what LG Chromedome looked like in person. I bought LG Hardhead, Brainstorm and Highbrow, and the increased paint/plastic quality made me like them more than their Hasbro counterparts. Chromedome was the only one that didn't quite win out.

>>6421597
Damn. Hope you get one, he's great.

>>6422163
do you like movies about gladiators?

>>6422243
huh? Was there any real indication they WERE swapped?
Cause Longtooth's inner robot is extremely autobot-esque, being a car and all.
I mean, of the 89 6 pretenders, There's not exactly a lot of commonality.
Three animal inner robots (octopunch, stranglehold, pincher) with the other 3 being vehicles (tank, jet, submersible car)
Three shells with skull motifs (Bludgeon, Longtooth, Octopunch)
Three human shells (pincher, doubleheader, stranglehold) with the other three being monsters
I mean, it seems like blind speculation

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Anyone here eventually going to hascon?

Any idea if the design team will be there, doing a QnA, can someone ask them a question on my behalf?

I'd go but I'm not flying out to a mixed event with bronies just to ask WHY DON'T THEY PAINT THE GOD DAMN RIMS OF TIRES OF THEIR PRODUCTS ANYMORE AS IF FUCKING STICKERS AREN'T THE PROBLEM ITS THE LACK OF GOD DAMN SILVER SHIT HASBRO MUST BE GOING BROKE IF SILVER ON RIMS IS IT SOOOOO MUCH TO ASK

>>6422649
Budget works in mysterious ways, some characters don't get enough paint while others like Brainstorm and Trypticon get a lot becuse they got parts molded in the wrong colors.

Will Breakaway's head ever get released with something else?
I like head but the unpainted pastry white body looks like shit.

>>6422699
There's an Bludgeon that might be released using that head.

>>6422471
Can someone explain this to me?

I don't get the context.
Is it the doublecross's targetmaster can be used for blur, or blur going to come with its own targetmaster with reissue? Or is it a special release 2 pack with both doublecross and blur?

>>6422713
I would say its advertising doublecross, the fact he comes with what is blatantly meant to be blurr's target master is a secondary selling point.

That and they are reissuing blurr from the TTmall

>>6422713
That targetmaster is Blurr's G1 targetmaster buddy. They didn't think about doing targetmasters when they did LG Blurr so they are packing it with LG Doublecross

>>6422713

Blurr's TM comes with Doublecross, and Blurr himself is getting a re-release.

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>>6421617
>>6421620
>>6421623
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>>6422699
>unpainted pastry white body
Perfect for a custom transtector, not mine but I also gave the body to Goshooter.

>>6422713
Doublecross is getting released with Blurr Targetmaster, you have to buy Doublecross to "complete" Blurr, not as bad as Repug who got his body with Broadside and his head with Brawn.

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>>6422724
Forgot my pic.

>>6422649
my wife and I were just talking about this. She's a pony fan, and we're gonna start a family soon, so hascon provides a show we can reliably assume is family friendly.
Comic conventions and general toyshows usually... aren't.
So while we don't think we can make it this year, next year is a possibility.

>>6422729
>family friendly.
Bronies and Trannies though.

>>6422729
>family friendly
No with those ridiculous admission prices, hopefully they'll adjust them.

>>6422667
Part of the issue is that waves are budgeted by case and not figure which must make deciding who gets how many paint apps and what ones pretty fraught. Brainstorm and Trypt on the other hand fill up cases by themselves so it's an even split per figure, pretty simple to balance that budget.
Let's assume Brainstorm is 8 per case at the same wholesale price as a normal non-exclusive deluxe, his tooling costs are spread over 8 figures per case instead of the normal 2 which would make them cheaper per unit, the same is true of his packaging so there's savings there though probably negligible ones, this all leaves more room in the budget for his paint apps. Pretty easy to understand when you think of it like that

>>6422724
I would just go for that one for the same reason but I also wanted to have the Chromedome faceplate to [spoilerson/toy/could] give to my bad guys to use as a brainwashing tool while another headmaster used that transtector because I am autistic like that and still play with my toys [safeguardpostersfromtheirownautism/].

>>6422725
THIN YOUR PAINTS

>>6422734
>>6422736
2 things
1) the high price will likely keep out some of the bronies, not to mention bronies tend to support fan created content far more than official content
2) the pricing isn't that ridiculous, as a veteran convention goer I can say that, while high, for an event with such a large corporate backing, the price is only mildly high. A quick glance at the schedule also shows you that, much like a lot of comic conventions, there's a lot of repeat panels, i.e. the bulk of attendees will just be buying single day passes.
60 bucks for a single day pass isn't that high, comic con charges 55, and pretty much any industry heavy event will be charging at least 50 for a day price.
It's more that the 3 day passes at other shows tend to have larger discounts than 10%, usually it's closer to 30%

>>6422768
>60 bucks for a single day pass isn't that high, comic con charges 55, and pretty much any industry heavy event will be charging at least 50 for a day price

Holy fucking shit I didnt know what the price for HasCon was and why people were calling it expensive but that's nothing compared to what larger anime cons are and what Dragoncon charges. You guys are spoiled compared to trying to go to those events.

>>6422833
Yeesh, and here our local toy cons cost 10 dollars for a one day pass and it's already expensive for us.

>>6422838
Well thats probably fairly small and I dont think it would be fair to compare that to something like Dragoncon but I was just pointing out 55-60 isnt that much for a corporate event, thats about average. Hell my friend is at a plastic model horse convention this weekend that's $80 a day (but they give you a horse statue thing at least I guess).

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>>6422846
It's actually the largest convention in my country. The smaller ones cost about 2-4 dollars.

>80 bucks a day
Not even counting hotel fees for some. Jesus.

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>go to a con
>pay money so you can see shit that will be on the internet within minutes, and so you can shop at tables that are overpriced as shit because hurr convention

Why do people honestly bother? It's a massive waste of money. Everything will be seen online. It's not like they're SELLING what they're showing off then and there as some kind of early bird exclusives or anything, and anything being sold there outside of some shitty, overpriced repaints (aka: "con exclusives") will easily be available from the comfort of your own home, and for less than you'll get it at a con most likely.

>>6422875
And that's why they are called "cons"

>>6422875
Anon I like to get out and go see things that interest me (even if occasionally stupidly expensive), can't always stay home.

>>6422875
>overpriced
Only total betas overpay, I always get fuckin steals at cons because you can haggle. Most of the sellers don't want to pack that shit up

>>6422642
Look at the shells (88 included). The general rule was that the Autobots were humans and the Decepticons were not.
The only other exceptions (Catilla and Starscream) each had an explanation.

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For those complaining about the price of the ticket, do mind that a convention usually rent a WHOLE building. Often something huge and glamorous. Montréal's Comiccon is held at Palais Des Congres, THE biggest place in town save for the Olympic Stadium. Even then, there is still around 50 official sponsors.

Also, a corporation whole reason to exist is to make money. Not to suck your dick.

And finally, there is a way to get the 3 day pass for "free". Volunteer to work there! I did a panel myself. That.s a whole 45 minutes of work relatively paid 80$CAN. Yeah, you do have to be selected from the applicants but eh, try it.

By the way, last year at Montréal's Comiccon, we had Peter Cullen. This year we have Knight Optimus Prime.

>>6422959
You make it sound too easy. How many volunteers try to get their 3day pass every year tho?

>>6422959
Please tell me they let you sit in it.

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>>6422966
Oh yeas you can sit in Optimus. Like the 60's Batmobile or any other vehicles, 20$CAN can get you a picture with you inside... And the picture is taken with your own camera.

>>6422960
I have no idea of your chances. Newcomers may have a harder time coming in, but if you have proven your worth once, it's easier to get selected again. I've been doing a TF panel two years in a row in fact and it's the only reason I was able to enjoy the 'cons.

Because I'm a cheap-ass who would only come for the small Friday, when it's only 25$CAN to get in instead of the BIG Saturday that is 55$CAN.

By the way, pic related was my Day one Comiccon haul. I was already broke and that Zii statue from the webcomic Ménage-à-trois was 100$CAN and ate most of my budget. Still, the original creator of the webcomic was there and she sighed it for me.

Sigh, if only I didn't spent so much in random shit before going....

>>6422875
atmosphere and con exclusives.

Never been to a tf con but I've been to pax, first time in years I went to anything and it was nice, though if not for friends I'd of been done with the place within an hour, they made me look at stuff I would of went straight on past...even then I was kinda forced.

Also the con exclusives were over priced but seeing in hand made me impulse purchase rather than mull it over on ebay

So I've had generations Metroplex since it came out, got Fort Max, got SDCC Fort Max, got Platinum Omega Supreme and now I have Trypticon.

I feel like I need a second red gun to metroplex and ebay comes up empty. Nobody has that part for sale and all i want is a second huhe tower for his base mode. Yeah I can sub in one of the smaller black guns or one of Fort Max's leg cannons but it just is not the same

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Thoughts on this?

>>6422993
See the generations metroplex and look for the takara version, by default they come with 2 guns, otherwise suck it up like me.

I must say I was tempted by that omega but knowing an eventual titan will come I'm torn, any omega's now will be closer to g1 aesthetic and if I'm lucky he'll be devastator sized or a smidge smaller to match in with my combiners

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>>6422993
I use the forearms of TFC Sixgun as towers, but if you want symmetry get the x2 toys gun, it looks like the standard gun but also transforms into a turret and a "hover tank".

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>>6422993
>Getting both Fort Max and SDCC
Why?

>>6422875
Conventions usually offer best prices for products, since you're usually not paying taxes or shipping.
You also get to see toys you'd never see in person and decide right then and there that they're worth your money.

So even if their prices are the same price as amazon, bbts or amiami, you're getting a better deal anyway.

And yes, while things can usually be seen online later, a lot of things never show up or are only partly shown.
Most photographs of objects also don't show all the details you can actually see for yourself in person. It's like how people think prototypes are pristine and perfect or how people hate Mezco's cloth on their figures.
Seeing shit for yourself makes a huuuuuge difference.

Then there's seeing shit outside of your normal zone of interests, which will expand on what you like.

Plus, its fun to go out and meet new people and go to panels.

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>it's a "cartoon apologists ruin it for everyone who wants aesthetically pleasing portrayals of G1 characters" type figure
For fuck's sake, this looks like a cheap Heroes of Cybertron PVC figure, not a fucking Masterpiece.

>>6422994
Thoughts on what? The sword and shield?

Looks cool I guess.

>>6423069
I wasn't planning on buying the original but it was on sale. And for that Price it came to like 40-50 bucks for which it was worth it to get the different cerebros to keep in Robot mode.

>>6423010
Every place seems sold out of th X2 gun and Sirtoys doesn't seem to have any knockoffs.

>>6423072

ALL of this. If it weren't for the 'con, I would never been able to get that Zii statue at >>6422973 Nor that Starscream art. Even more so for being able to meet the original artists and have those signed.

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>>6422640

This is my favourite movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVakHZp5ZBE

>>6421597
Hey, anon that has the ambus, still willing to give it away. Email me with address.

>>6423118
Email
[email protected]

Who's at tfcon now?

>just 6 more days to go when SDCC proves everything that anon said about Power of the Prime is correct
>Which confirms LG Overlord will come with Mega and Giga powermaster chest pieces

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>>6423143

Hey, nothing would make me happier than a new set of G1 style Dinobots, but I ain't buying any rumors I see on 4chan of all places.

The only time I ever believe any "leaks" were those guys on TFW that pretty much revealed the entire Titans Return line. And I only believed that after like half of their waves had been confirmed.

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Well looks like rid blastwave was giving an actual character model in show to work with, shame his toy is just a pre-use of bludgeon

What kinda personality can we expect from him?

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>>6423157

Is he essentially the same model as Bludgeon but with a different head? I guess different alt mode too then? He's got one turret on his back on the card art while Bludgeon has 2.

>>6423149
You know, I always liked the Dinobots, except Swoop. he never clicked to me
He always felt the odd one of the team, and not because he's the only flyer

>>6423161
Probably because he's not actually a Dinosaur.

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>>6423160
No idea all I know is the card art for rid bludgeon depicts his skull head accurately to the toy while blastwave's card art is accurate to the show and NOT to the toy.

But they could be the same, like thermador bisk in show

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>>6423143
>Which confirms LG Overlord will come with Mega and Giga powermaster chest pieces

>This will happen with LG

All is good in the world

Anyone have what anon said? I don't recall the detail besides the powerup master thing.

>>6423181
Maybe it'll be an indirect confirmation because all the other stuff will be officially confirmed?

>>6423187
Bit fucking abstract considering takara does its own thing once hasbro has done shitting their stuff one, at best anon's claims of power of the primes is true, but it won't prove jack shit about legends overlord.

>OH WOW I WAS RIGHT
>THAT MEANS MY NEXT CLAIM IS TRUE EVEN THOUGH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE JAPANESE WILL DO

That anon is just taking pot shots anyway, the claims keep getting tweaked, I'm glad no one is taking notes so that faggot doesn't get any credit bar gullible forum posters taking anything we say seriously.

BTW next masterpiece in December next year is g1 scorponok he'll have lights soundsa and a motor and self converts but only cost 10k yen.

Proof is my mum works at sony and my dad works at nintendo

>>6423193
Anyone who trusts anonymous posts on /toy/ is an idiot, but Takara throwing Ghost Starscream in with Octane clinches it that they're giving Overlord Mega and Giga.

>>6423193
>Bit fucking abstract considering takara does its own thing once hasbro has done shitting their stuff one, at best anon's claims of power of the primes is true, but it won't prove jack shit about legends overlord.


Going by Takara's record with LG Ginrai prime, if what anon is saying about PoP is true (same titanmaster without the head plate that plugs into spot to give gimmie weapons), it is very likely Takara pull another one by adding parts to open up the stomach guns and canon on the pretty much empty space TR overlord torso.

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Alleged info on the Bumblebee standalone movie toyline, from an older thread:

>Maybe half of the line consists of different movie Bumblebee variants. It seems like he's going to have at least half a dozen of different alt modes in the film, there was everything from a classic Beetle to some 1980s sports car and even a cropduster.

>Saw a few other car Autobots with generic names. One was a red muscle that does remind me of the recent alleged set pics, and it wasn't called Cliffjumper. No Decepticons in the line iirc, and probably none in the movie either.

>Like AOE and TLK, most of it is centered around fast transforming kiddie figures plus a few simplified Deluxes / Voyagers. The paintjobs looked slightly improved but not necessarily on a pre-DotM tier.

>Was also told that the entire toyline was specifically aimed at younger kids, although they're still considering to release improved versions of some of the molds in a Generations-like premium subline, probably for a significantly higher collector-grade price.

>>6423217
>>Was also told that the entire toyline was specifically aimed at younger kids, although they're still considering to release improved versions of some of the molds in a Generations-like premium subline, probably for a significantly higher collector-grade price.
PotP leaker here, haven't seen anything Bee-related but I can confirm this. Hasbro wants to put out a short line of improved Bayverse molds between Bumblebee and the 6th film, basically like Takara's "Movie The Best" line.

>>6423227
Sure, sure.

>>6423217
>probably none in the movie either.

That's BS cause I'm pretty sure the director mentioned there WERE cons in the film.

>>6423160

Blastwave came first. But the remold was alwas intended for Bludgeon.

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This guy is cute. Anyone have this?

>>6423157

Just picked up Blastwave because of the episode. There's something magical about a completely alright autobot bounty hunter who just happens to have a demonic face and a skull on his chest.

>>6423287
I do, the proportions are incredibly weird for a movie Prime and the solar panels are nonsense but he's still a pretty solid figure overall. Definitely worth a purchase if you like his style.

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>>6423287
He's okaaaaay. The fault with this mold mostly lies with there being better molds. He has some odd-but-nice decos though.

>>6423292
well the mechtech one I saw got rid of the weird textures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJXJ8pp_zQ

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I hate the RID version so fucking much, it makes finding this one nearly impossible.

>>6423287
It's a shit mold and I have that exact version, The guns cool as is the trailer, but the figure is shit.

>>6423315
wait, there's a rid version?

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Gerwalk?

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>>6423327
This thing.

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>>6423331
Holy shit, I don't follow dreck that doesn't transform, but that's funny as hell.

>>6423329
>four eyes
>row of fangs
Absolutely terrifying.

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>>6423340
I know bro, no one wants to mess with a Gerwalk mode.

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>>6422875
>go to TFcon
>get con exclusive
>guy handimg out minicons
>find awesome stuff for cheap
>have fun
>????
>profit?

>>6423331
>is named Minitron in the show
What the hell, Hasbro.

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>>6423331
>it's a decepticon

Fucking Hell, Hasbro, you don't even know your own continuity. Whats next, Cobra Commander, leader of GI Joe?

>>6423394
That right there is like a reverse "Hail Hydra" meme. Cobra Commander takes off his helmet, it's Duke, he pushes Destro out of the plane
"Yo Joe!"

>>6423408

The IDW comics actually did something close to that years ago. They thought they turned Chuckles over to them after years of effort and grooming.

Then he screams "YO JOE" out of nowhere, blows Cobra Commander's brains out, and nukes himself and their biggest base. Then to top it off, the next Cobra Commander they end up crowning is a war crazed retard who ruins literally everything.

>>6423349
How much did you get SPyshot for?

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>>6423349
>tfw TFcon is in North America and I live in the other side of the ocean
Sometimes it sucks to be Euro desu. Any fellow Yurofags know about any similar convention around here? I know there's a Spanish club that often does massive exhibits, but other than that I've never seen any major TF-related event around the continent.

>>6423555
auto assembly

>>6423555
C.O.N.S. is pretty big.

http://www.ntf-cons.de/home.html

>>6423359
>>6423394
>even Hasbro doesn't care about Roberts shit OC

>>6423559
Speaking about them, why the fuck haven't they announced a 2017 event yet?

>>6423579
Wasn't that the one that stopped last year? The showrunners were ill or something. And TFNation kind of absorbed stuff from Auto Assembly.

>>6423582
Yeah, Auto Assembly stopped in 2015, though TFNation has a lot of former Auto Assembly people behind it.

>>6423349
what is that little megatron with the sword

>>6423671
Cyberverse Prime Megatron.

>>6423685
he looks pretty cool is he worth picking up?

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>>6423287
Solid mold, but I sold mine.

>>6423690
He is the best realization of Prime Megatron for one.

>>6423287
I have the original. He's pretty fun and Obari as fuck.

>>6423703

I respectfully disagree.
The BEST Prime Megatron is the deluxe First Edition. That is, if you don't care about scale.
He's 100% show accurate, shiny all over, and fun to transform.

>>6423703
cool, thank you
I found him on ebay for pretty reasonable and just thought he looked nice in your pic for a small megs figure so yep, sold

>>6423708
this one looks to be going for alot more, Im guessing it was stupidly impossible to obtain?

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>>6421960
What has happened to this hobby?

>>6423546
$10 for both spychangers(?)

>>6423718
inflation

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>>6423710

I live in Quebec, Canada and this guy never came out in the province for some random reasons. But there was a local guy who sole me his Takara for just 20$CAN, meaning the price of a normal deluxe in store! That was at the time Prime was still airing new episodes.

He's amazing.

>>6423559
>>6423579
>>6423582
>>6423624

The two people who own the rights to the Auto Assembly name and all that didn't want to continue after 2015. The rest of the staff who actually did all the work offered to buy them out so they could carry on running the convention, but they didn't want to give up the name. So the rest of the staff just went "fuck it" and started their own con. There's only been one TFNation so far but for the most part it's been functionally identical, if not improved upon.

So I just got back from TFcon and I think I got decent hauls.

MP Artfire
Western Release Magmatron
Telemocha Gimlet and Motorarm
Alternity Jaguar Ravage

[spoiler]1 3rd party: OpenPlay Mushy "Keanu Reeves" face Big Spring - This one actually grew on me after 10 minutes of fiddling with it on A3U's table but I still think the face is shit[/spoiler]

Honestly I didn't really want a lot this year except for MP Artfire, everything else were just from impulse.

>>6423774
>OpenPlay Mushy "Keanu Reeves" face Big Spring
I recognize these words, but they don't make sense.

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>>6423788
My bad, I just literally typed that without double checking

Should be OpenPlay's Mushy "Keanu Reeves" face, Big Spring.

Basically this guy in the attached picture.

In certain angles he kinda looks like Keanu Reeves and the figure is really pose-able.

>>6423774
>MP Artfire
"One of us. One of us. One of us."

>>6423815
I actually liked Artfire since I learned about him a few years ago. Problem is the G1 was extremely retarded expensive and the Universe one is shit. I hated that inferno mold.

>>6423774
>Western Release Magmatron
Shit, post some pics, how is he?

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>>6423850
Amazing. I always wanted him and he was just there on the Captured Prey table for $50 usd so I jumped the opportunity.

Apparently the only difference from the Japanese or Korean was that the tip of the sword was remolded so its not sharp anymore.

The box I already chugged in my closet so I don't really have an in-box shot of them.

>>6423876
>tilting to the right
Ok this has been happening lately and I don't know how to fix it anymore.

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That was a good TFcon

>>6423891
Are Bludgeon and the Clones in the wild then?

>>6423894
Clones were at TFcon for $55 CAD. But I caved so I wouldn't have to middleman a Walgreens exclusive.

A Walmart in Brampton had Bludgeon.

>>6423891
I didn't see that Twin Twist, I skipped that clones cause I feel that for 2 legends class $55 is a highway robbery. I see that you're the one who bought the power ranger stuff huh? I saw them on Saturday I think and I was just contemplating to buy Titanus.

>>6423900
Shoulda bit. The Titanus was $20 with everything except the sleds. The Tigerzord was missing 1 jewel and the hilt of the sword.

>>6423899
One of the event staff in TFcon had Twin Twist and told me he found his at Square One. I guess I'm going there tomorrow.

>>6423794
3P faces always look like they have down syndrome

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>>6423909
This one is exceptionally ugly.

>>6423910
;_;

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>>6423909

Is 38 dollars an accceptable price for getting TR Brainstorm outside of the US?

>>6423928
No, you're better off buying the Takara one.

>>6423935
But then I'll have to drop like 40 dollars more getting the good head.

>>6423928
what kind of dollars?

That's probably a "decent" price all things considered if oyu really want a brainstorm.

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>>6423718

Greed?

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>>6423937
True, but it's pretty damn snazzy.

>>6423937
What? Takara is only like $30. Are you sure that's Dollars not Peso?

>>6423939
American dollars.
I'll check other stores to see if they have cheaper prices but I'm not expecting anything.

>>6423944
The colors really are better.

>>6423946
I'm not fucking letting the anime brainstorm head into my house.

>>6423950
>I'm not fucking letting the anime brainstorm head into my house.

That's racist.

>>6423941
Manoday, did that series suck.

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>>6423944

...How is his nosecone on upside down?

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>>6423956
>not liking Sins of the Wreckers

I'd love a Tidalwave in the Sins design.

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>>6423971

so weird you would post him just as i looked at my photo

I always find it weird how people hate on the takara headmaster faces so much when I specifically got the takara versions because I like the faces more.

I don't even have any attachment to the anime or cartoon accuracy.

>>6423950
Why not? It's the better head design.

>>6423969
I bought a little adapter piece on shapeways.

>>6423982
>Bludgeon
>Thunderwing
Are those 100% complete? if yes, congrats of owning these collectible worthy of the Grail title.

Got them both myself in some incredible trade a few weeks ago. I had to order a Reprolabel set for Thunderwing because most of his stickers were missing though. Appart from that, both are 100% complete.
I'm very happy to have them.

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Bought TR Topspin yesterday because I actually found him, and I'm thinking Takara probably won't release him because he was never in the cartoon.

I like him a lot. His alt. mode is pure sex, but his bot mode is kind of bland. The white plastic on his chest and legs is cheap and milky as fuck and washes out all the detail, which is one of the biggest reasons I was hoping for a Takara release. The underside of his wings are super ugly, too, so I tend to pop them off and swap them around whenever I transform him. His torso seems a little sparse, but it's not bad.

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>>6423891
My haul.

>>6424050
Kinda jealous with Megatronia and Megatron. Also the WWII con.

>>6423997
>balding jaundice robot man
>better

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>>6424050
>

>>6423971
>punch everything into the future

Who writes this drivel?

>>6423996
In any given robot design I'll always prefer the one with a faceplate. I don't have any connection to the headmasters guys either.

>>6424162
Same. Although I am a sucker for a good visor/mouth combo, I just really like most of the Hasbro sculpts. I do quite like Highbrow's Takara sculpt, mostly because the silver paint and bright blue visor make the details pop more. The weird dark blue combo on the Hasbro head is a bit muddied up.

>>6424148
Roche

>>6424148
Tidal Wave is a fucking idiot, the comic version had a huge ego on top of that. The only reason the protagonists won was due to his fuck ups.

>>6424203
>Tidal Wave
>ego
What the hell? On which sewers do they scout for """"""writers""""""?

>>6424224
>it doesn't match muh G1 toy bios, REEEEEEE
Kill yourself, Geewunner.

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>>6424010
are any of them valuable? I played with most of them as a kid.

>>6424228
He's from Armada.
Tidal Wave was the smarter Lugnut before Lugnut Lugnutted in Animated.

>>6424232
So? Intelligence has nothing to do with ego.

>>6424232
>smarter than Lugnut
Well that doesn't take much so theres still plenty of room for Tidal wave to be an arrogant dumbass.

>>6424240
There's none. Tidal Wave was the most selfless and dedicated decepticon and the only one Megatron could trust at all because he was, unlike Demolishor and Cyclonus, both competent and loyal.
Nobody would rely on someone like IDW Tidal Wave.

Fuck, it was almost as they needed to give him a random crippling personality flaw only so he wouldn't just bulldoze everything in his path.

>>6424247
All I'm reading here is "NOT MUH". Besides, IDW isn't Armada. Soundwave already fills the "most selfless and dedicated Decepticon.

And I feel like if you check some character bios, there are at least a dozen more bots that could be considered "the most selfless and dedicated Decepticons". You people act like these characters are fucking Tolstoy.

>>6424263
I really am complaining more about the cheap way used to make him useless. Cheap is bad even in a fucking Captain Tootsie short.
The most appealing thing about Tidal Wave was how scary he was and that he seemed unstoppable which coupled to his loyalty gave Megatron a ridiculous advantage until the next power creep; people are going to expect that from Tidal Wave.
If you can't write a not stupid way to prevent a really powerful character from short-circuiting your comic book or subvert expectations just don't put that character in your comic book.

>>6424280
>just don't put that character in your comic book
Would you rather see him show up in something and actually get used or the author have made up some OC that you'd then bitch about. Roche said he used Tidal Wave because he loved the character and really wanted to get him for the story, which he had written before he was ok'ed to use him so its no surprise it might seem a bit off.

Tl:dr: Roche wanted Tidal Wave to get some modern attention but wasn't sure he would get him so the story was written generically for that part.

>>6424231
>unicron
Damn, I can't believe I spent money on that nerdy looking toy.

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