3rd party general

>>6114577
that fucking flat face looks so bad

>>6114588
I actually think the face looks cool. Although, I'm just a guy who saw the image in the catalog and don't collect transformers.

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>>6114577
FT Galvatron is also out and MT Jazz is set to drop anytime. 2017 is already hitting us in the wallets!

>>6114588
It's curved.

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>>6114588

Whats wrong with the mask? It's not the guys face, bro. It's a mask. Looks pretty in-line with the one from the comics.

Unless you're expecting it basically be super-thin almost painted on like it's sometimes shown in the comics. Which ain't gonna happen in real life.

>>6114615

I still haven't bought UW Computron and Wave 4 is coming soon and theres at least 4 different 3P things I want all costing $80-650 a pop. Not to mention books I want, games, and other toys.

I'm too poor to love so many different things.

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>>6114635
i saw it in person at tfcon, its nearly flat with only the very slightest curve

>>6114641
its too wide and the fact that its so very flattened only exaggerates that problem more, it needed to angle forward more
the upper piece of the "mouth" is also inset and recessed on the mmc one which it isnt in the comic, look at the image you posted or pic related
I understand the plastic piece cant be as thing or delicate as the comic one but thats no excuse for the actual problems this one has, just shitty design work

>>6114679
Looks close enough to me.

All of your issues sound like nitpicks.

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>>6114679

It looks damn near the same to me. I really do think you're just nitpicking at this point.

>>6114683
of course they're nitpicks, thats what we do here
Ive already received my shippment notice from psx so its not like Im not gonna buy it just because of those things but they do annoy me on what would have been an otherwise nearly perfect figure barring any qc issues

Say I don't care about nitpicking the mask

I haven't bought an MMC since Anarchus. Is the QC still good?

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>>6114693

No. Anubis (or whatever their Not-Lockdown was called) was basically crap. MMC apparently hired some new designers and a new factory and things haven't been turning out so great.

Carnifex came out amazing though.

>>6114693
It seems that the Anubis/Jeagertron mold was a fluke because Carnifex is practically flawless

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>FT Galvatron is a must
>Gc Prime looks like a fucking rubix cube but I super want it regardless
>ToyWorld makes mediocre stuff generally but their ramjet and OP look really baller
>Toy budget is 300 bucks and all this stuff might be in one month

HELP ME

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>>6114720
>want TFC Seacon's, $600+
>want MP Soundwave, $160
>want Wave 4 stuff, lets say $70-130 altogether
>want IF PM Prime $80
>want IF Scorponok, $80
>want MT Jazz assuming it reviews well, thats what, another $100? Not sure of the price on it
>want a GOOD Galvatron, so figure $100-160 there at some point
>want an MP Prime, $160
>want other MP figures, $80+ unless you want KO's which might turn out shit
>want like 5 hardcover books, and an Exalted 3E book, each $35-60
>want some Daibadi stuff because I am a filthy degenerate
>want Revo Deadpool, Spiderman, and Venom, another $70 or so a pop
>occasional videogames, tends to weigh in at $20-60 a pop
>monthly "fun" budget weighs in at around $100-300, depending on bills/other life essentials

Buddy, you and me, we're both fucked.

>>6114761

You collect mainline stuff? Damn. I bet the official TR Galvatron was a kick in the nuts.

>>6114776

Yeah, I buy a bit of everything. Official stuff is nice and cheap and usually pretty good. 3P stuff I have to be picky with because it's both expensive and prone to being shit unless you research every last thing being released, so you can't blind buy.

And I avoided TR Galvatron. The rest of the line has been pretty good though. Hard to pass up most stuff for $15 or less.

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Reminder from last thread:

>MMC Kulur in stock and shipping for free at PSX
>Maketoys striker Noir is MADE TO ORDER so if you want that shit you best preorder it.

>>6114720
I feel like I cashed in all my HasTak stuff for third party stuff last year. Now I've got all this shit hitting in January:

>2 TFC Seacons
>Master Made's new Scorpinok stuff shipping
>Maketoys Striker Noir
>MMC Kultur
>MMC titantica
>TFM Carnage
>Iron Factory Prime
>Iron Factory Drift and Edgy Drift
Iron Factory Sixshot
Fans Hobby Scourge

I'm so glad I gave up on most of the MP stuff else I would be extremely boned.

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>>6114704
I feel like I'm committing some kind of sin not having a carnifex in my collection but, I've got too much going on right now to snag him....

>>6114784
>Maketoys striker Noir is MADE TO ORDER so if you want that shit you best preorder it.

Wait, what? Why? Has something like even happened before? I want him but my march is gonna be packed as fuck.

>>6114784
Preordered Noir. Not gonna miss out on that beautiful fucker. I wonder if this is gonna become more common in 3P to keep merch from shelfwarming.

>>6114761
what the fuck is in wave 4 you could possibly want other than Twintwist, Shuffler, and Repugnus?

>>6114784
made to order? super happy I got my preorder in. but where was the made to order thing announced?

>>6114801
I certainly hope not. Then how will people avoid Omnigonix tier shits in the bed?

>>6114805
Maybe he likes the Perceptor

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>>6114577
Is Badcube Wardog worth $110?

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>>6114784

Totally gonna wait for reviews before trying to nab Kultur. With the way MMC's been going lately, I feel like I can't chance it. Which is a shame, because I love most of their stuff.

>>6114785

It is a sin to not own this big beautiful bastard.

>>6114805

Kup, Perceptor, Twintwist. Maybe Broadside, but I'd rather get a 3P version of him if anyone would make 1 that isn't hard to find, or shit.

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>>6114827
Also is he good?

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>>6114844

Wait for FansToys.

>>6114792
>Has something like even happened before
Most of Maketoys repaints are like that. Normally they do it through thier online store though.

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>>6114854
>Wait
fuck me that's a long wait. They literally have no plan yet

>>6114844
He's a solid figure. His tank mode kinda sucks but, robot and jet mode are great. Though like >>6114854 said wait for fanstoys if your not in any real hurry.

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>>6114854

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>>6114870
Charmingly doofy

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>>6114868
They showed off a gray proto last weekend.

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>>6114882

>>6114868
What? They showed off the prototype just a couple of weeks ago.

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>>6114886

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>>6114886
>>6114895
He's kind of lanky. I think I just really like the beef

>>6114891
oops, google was not in my favor

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>>6114828
>It is a sin to not own this big beautiful bastard
Unfortunately, SOC Golion, and MT jazz have eaten up my toy budget at the moment....

Which Maketoys ReMaster should I get first? Got Despotron and fell in love so I'm looking at the others in the line, namely Cupola and Gundog.

Also how is the MMC Ocular Max stuff? MMC seems to be hit or miss recently but I like the look of their Mirage.

>>6114928
Gundog is awesome.

MMC used to have a stellar rep for quality then their Ocular Max line happened.

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TFC teasing a God Neptune version of Poseidon in the Mentarazor comic.

>>6114966
Yes, please!

Will they make changes for their not!Tentakill for Scylla?

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>>6114925

Gotta save those bux man. Took me a while to do so, but I had enough by the time he was released.

>took me 20 fucking minutes to get him transformed

Man I'm retarded. It wasn't even the shoulderpads or backpack, which is what trips everyone up. It was just me fucking around with the shield nosecone setup.

>>6114935

Sphinx is still perfect. Backdraft is good if you can get it with the fix kit. Trailbreaker only has that weird mismatched black issue. Ravage is amazing.

Really the only big QC disaster they had was Jaegertron. >>6114935

So how does everyone loosen up tight joints (like scary tight)? Personally I've been disassembling the joints and applying a thin layer of dish detergent to the plastic and it always works like a dream. No idea on how long it will keep the joint decent though.

>be yuropoor
>finally score FT Stomp
>the X version
>for 150 shipped locally
>HYPE
>Get it
>it looks gorgeous but us otherwise actually fairly standard and unexciting
>attempt to pose it
>SQUEEKSQUEEKSQUEEK CREAKCREAKCREAK
>Apparently this is normal for FT
>Literally can't pose it without having it sounds like nails on a chalk board

I should have just bought Apollo instead.

>>6115062

I just loosen the screws a bit. Helps 8 times out of 10.

So, is striker manus noir a limited edition or something? If he is... When is he hitting? I want him if i can get him, but my budget is already maxed out for the month

>>6115077
Cut off date for pre-orders is February 15th according to The Chosen Prime. He's made to order.

>>6115066

My Apollo's right leg was squeaky as fuck. Had to loosen a screw. And even then, it still squeaks a bit anyway.

Sometimes it just happens.

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>>6115077

1. Yes
2. March
3. He's apparently a made to order exclusive so there won't be much stock unless a lot of people cancel preorders.

You may want to consider preordering him now with a site that doesn't do upfront payments and just having the money ready when he ships in March. If you don't use a credit card you still have TCP's no upfront payment option via paypal. Once it comes in stock they'll send you a paypal invoice to pay and you can cancel anytime before that invoice is sent.

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Not the same anon but >>6114635 and then seeing this >>6115152 is pretty funny cause yeah that's flat.

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>>6115173

Is this what you mean by a curve?

Because I can tell you, thats just pure comic book proprotions cheating going on, you literally can't have the face he has behind that mask, and have the mask shaped like pic related.

Some things you just have to accept aren't going to work in reality too well.

>>6115191
Calm down I just thought it was funny, wasn't trying to start shit.

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Even MMC thought he was going to be roller

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>>6115306

Probably because Roller was the obvious, logical choice, that probably would have had character impact, and mattered.

So of course they went with a LITERALLY WHO that had like a half panel of "screen time" in the entirety of the comic.

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>>6115306
>MMC got rused

>>6115332
I believe we all did. I mean who thought Tarn would turned out to be a minor character like Glitch.

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Yes, can't fucking wait

well i finally decided to bite the bullet and get my first third party i was thinking of getting maketoys visualizers since i always wanted a good size reflector is there any thing i should know about it before i lay down the cash ?

>>6115357
I'm excited for him, hopefully he turns out alright

>>6115152
God, fucking dammit... I will have to see if i can squeeze it in at the end of the month i guess... Or hope for another deco.

>>6115335
I wouldn't be surprised if Roberts just changed it last minute because everyone figured it out.

Because everything has to be a tweeest, I guess.

>>6115386

He said it wasn't changed, and people always doubt it, but with how shitty the finale was for that season, I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually Glitch all along and he wasn't lying in a halfassed attempt to save face.

>>6114966
Beast Wars II toys now.

I want a Jinbao Warbotron Ruination

>>6114966

does that mean i will buy the same figure again?

maybe

fuck

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>>6115406
>>6115441

only if Scylla is a new mold made to look like a slutty girl in beach shorts.

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>>6115393

See the thing is Glitch as Tarn could have worked well if Roberts had actually seeded it in the background while keeping Roller as the red herring. If he kept it really subtle it could have worked to give it that "oh shit" effect when you looked at the hints retroactively.

Tarn's quirks is that he likes Megatron's writings, likes to transform a whole lot, and somehow talks people to death. Glitch's power is that he can disable non living machinery by touch and is a victim of what amounts to mutilation to the head and hands. Problem is none of those things really cross over except for his fucked up face at the end.

While Glitch was around, he could have shown a tendency to transform a lot or mention something along those lines. Example: While Ratchet was examining him he could have remarked about the stress Glitch's T-cog was under. As Tarn, there should have been subtle hints that weapons and machinery where mysteriously disabled while he was around. Ratchet remarks that he thought Glitch could eventually apply his skills over a distance so you could make it even more subtle. Tarn could have talked about problems with his restored hands or something that wasn't his face.Talking people to death is sort of out there but that could have been better tied to his outlier power. Instead the only hints really dropped that wasn't misdirection to Roller was that he was somehow acquainted with Optimus.

>>6115385
When the fuck did striker noir go from 80 bucks to nearly $100?! Fuck man, if i am gonna pay that much for a menacing repaint i should just go grab Hephaestus.

Btw, where is a good Hephaestus price? I see between 140 and 250 for him when i look.

>>6115516
He is 10$ more and comes with a weapon pack.

>>6115539
Weapon pack? What, two axes and the windvane gun?

>>6115567
He comes with an entire weapon pack for manus. Tfs has this listed.

Giant weapons Pack (short gun, arm blade, machine gun, star saber, striker cannon, handgun, katana, Striker Manus weapon holder, and an axe extension bar)

>>6115570
Have we seen these weapons yet? Because the axes are kinda stumpy.

>>6115580
Nope, not besides a small preview in the official photos which are simply illustrations.

>>6115487
I think I would have liked it alot if underneith Tan's mask was a fake face, and beneath that would be his true, empurata'd face.

Or if Roller may have taken his frustrations out on Glitch, with Glitch making his "fake face" resemble Roller.

Almost like a bullied kid turning into a bully, transforming into the thing he hated the most.

>>6115580
Hopefully the weapons aren't just simply gunmetal gray plastic straight off the runner, here's hoping the star saber actually has a color translucent blade.

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>>6115487

>>6116156
I dont like that they never explained how someone as tiny as Glitch could be rebuilt into a frame as big as Megatron's.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu5TAY0JqIg

>>6116179

It's doubly bad because they also explain that spark's usually need to be put inside similar-sized bodies, unless they're loadbearers.

So Glitch just pretty much got a body 2x the size for no reason.

>>6116192

The only thing I don't like about this is the PM crotchplate isn't ball jointed at the flaps. It kills the leg articulation entirely, which is bullshit. Iron Factory should've done that piece a bit better.

Still, you can probably just leave it off if you need full leg movement, but you shouldn't have to for a $70-ish dollar toy.

>>6116235
As you can see there, Glitch is only a hair shorter than Pax. Megatron and Prime are about even in height. Roller is MUCH bigger than either of them, closer to the size of Fort Max or Magnus.

>>6114720
>>6114761
>want lots of things
>live in a shithole of a country
>currency lost half of its value against both USD and JPY in two years

Being a third world collector is hell.

>>6116247

Move to the US then. I mean, shit, it sounds like you can't lose.

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>>6115066
>>6115151
Get yourselves some shock oil. Its as essential to collectors as pledge.

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>>6116372

>>6116372
>>6116376

So whats his face underneath supposed to look like?

I've never read any of the IDW stuff.

>>6116372
Gee MMC mustve hired funpub

>>6114598
Me too

>>6116240
Thats pre-war Optimus though, we know from later size comparisons that both Megatron and Optimus grew significantly in size (with the bullshit reason that their sparks can take it) so that still makes Glitch a manlet.

>>6116372
Haha wow thats bad, think I'll be glueing his mask on.

As much of a fuss there is about the face, it's the rest of his body I have a problem with. I can't even put my finger on it, he just looks... Fuzzy. The treads are a good example, they're really soft around the edges where I'd expect them to be crisp, for lack of a better word.

>>6116402
I thought that too but didn't know how to phrase, like the sculpt itself is slightly soft? It's weird cause Anarchus and Vos who's actual name I forgot are so crisp.

>>6116411
I don't have them, but I've got carnifex and spartan, and it's a weird look compared to those two. Carnifex sort of has something similar going on with the glossy blue part of his chest, but it's not as pronounced.

>>6116428
Were Carnifex and Kultur designed by different people?

>>6116428

Pretty sure Carnifex's chest is gloss injected plastic, thats why it's shiny.

>>6116432
No idea, I'm just in it for the robots. I could see that being a possibility, but it's strange to change aesthetics up in the middle of a line/team.

>>6116436
It's possible, but I don't think so. If you open up his tiddy missile panels, the backside of them is the same plastic but the detailing is super sharp. Same thing with the sides of his abs, they're dull matte blue compared to the front. I think the gloss is just something it's dipped or coated in to give it that appearance, and it's thick enough to smooth out any edges.

Kultur is all matte though, so even that can't be it. It's just gotta be a design difference, but man, am I not a fan of it. Fuckin' michelin man ass.

>>6116394
Don't forget to sandwich something red in between so the eye slits are permanently red.

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>>6116380

It actually almost looks the same anyway.

They really should have kept the glitch face.

>>6115487
Roberts is just terrible at writing villains:
-turned Overlord into a glass cannon
-turn Star Saber into a religious fanatic
-thought Glitch-as-Tarn with minimal setup was a good idea

He is the master of shitty development. No wonder he likes hacks such as Moffat and Gillen.

>>6116468
Boy that sure looks like Roller

>>6115975
>>6115990


..shit, i guess i will just find a better nemesis prime then at some point, or hope for a KO.

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this is some hasbro level shit man

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>>6116612
The big problem is taking a lithe design like a Raptor, and trying to adapt it faithfully instead of making it bulky like a G1 Dinobot. On top of that, trying to make a feminine robot mode.

Overall it reminds me of a Beast Wars design, more specifically a Beast Wars Neo Predacon. I'd have preferred this in more of a non-G1 Dinobot colorscheme as a BW fembot.

>>6116411
You're right, it kinda looks like what happens when you smooth a 3D model too much. Didn't the initial photos look much crisper?

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>>6116612
Yeah i was all aboard for this, but all that lazy ass kibble, parts forming the dino hands, a "transformation" thats basically standing up straight. Fuck that noise, clearly some dude hadnt been laid in a while and just wanted a dino waifu fig, poor show, reminds me of thunderblast.

"What should we do with the alt mode parts?"
"The what? I dont know man, just move it or something, im gonna go beat off"

>>6116612

I still can't get over the kibble. The fuck where they thinking? There's a ton of ways to make it tasteful and instead they just let everything flop from behind. They could have at least designed it to compress into an X pattern on the back or something.

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>>6114577

Who and what is the OP?
Just some upgrade kit, or a whole new 3p toy?

>>6116804
MMC Kultur, based on IDW Tarn. Kinda looks like shit.

It's a 3p figure.

>>6116808
>Kinda looks like shit.

Opinions. I think it looks good. A review will show if it's actually bad though.

Now we just need to wait for a review.

>>6116813
>Opinions.
its funny how people who dont know the character like it but those that have ever seen the real character hate it for the most part

>>6116817
Character sucks, toy looks cool.

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>>6116817

I'm pretty familiar with it. I still like it. Also this is probably the only figure the guy is ever going to get considering the season finale for the comic bombed right into the shithouse and pissed a ton of people off in general, souring everything related to the DJD more or less.

>>6116813
It's "shit" in the sense that it's quite inaccurate to the design and very rushed looking, compared to MMC's previous two DJD releases (who look very spot-on to the source material).

Also those hands. I don't think anyone can defend those.

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>>6116831
>Also those hands. I don't think anyone can defend those.

I don't believe most 3P figures (within reason) aren't sporting fully articulated ball joint-with-hinged-fingers hands yet. Especially for these prices. Shit, they could at least stop doing the "hinged pointer only, rest of hand is fused together" garbage and fucking seperately hinge the rest of the fingers too.

>>6116829
I'm still holding onto hope Iron Factory will give us a tiny Tarn to fight with their Evil Lord.

>>6116843
I'm not even talking about the articulation of the hands, man.

They just look awful.

>>6116869
Its weird cause the hands they gave him open but they open so oddly like? How the fuck does a company like MMC fuck that up? On a character they KNEW was going to sell like hot cakes.

>>6114966
I wonder if they'll do Nautilator up in that colour scheme since he doesn't have a God Neptune counterpart.

>>6114966
That. That I will buy. Or at least Scylla.

>>6115191
Huh, I guess deceptions can show affection.

Maybe I should start reading the comics

>>6116829
I don't care how many excuses people want to make for Roberts he had something special with the DJD and absolutely blew it.

>>6116192
Is elita-1 with every copy of this? Or early preorder bonus?

>>6116878
The same way they screwed up a lot of things on the figure, I guess. No reason to invest in more money when it'd sell enough units.

At least they gave us Carnifex.

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>>6116889

The comics are pretty good on the whole, but like any comic they have their ups and downs. I'd recommend looking up the /co/ reading order list, as the stuff in the beginning is hard to figure the timeline for unless you read it in the proper order.

>>6116897
This. I absolutely could not agree more. I used to defend his writing and his comic but after that colossal failure in judgement in killing them all off in two pages I can never defend anything he does again. Fuck that.

>>6116898

Every copy of the first run supposedly.

>>6116900
>At least they gave us Carnifex.
True, he's probably impressed me more than any other 3rd party I own.

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>>6116897

Yeah. I honestly consider it a failure not just on his part, but on the editorial staff as well. How the fuck did anyone look at this and go "Ok, print it. This is satisfying"?

I don't see how people can be so nitpicky about Tarn and be OK with Carnifex when his waist and upper thighs look like no version of the character.

>>6116916
Barber had just resigned and was on his way out and gave zero shits at that point and the new staff probably didn't really realize what a stupid thing Roberts was doing.

>>6116917
Carnifex is basically a triple changed, is huge, have spot-on faces and lets face, is about as awesome as you could hope for so the one or two stylistic flaws he has get a pass.
Kultur is kind've just a sloppy job all the way around. The hands, the face, the actual face, the overall proportions, the canons not being correct, the huge tank tread calves that aren't correct- he has alot that they probably just looked at and said "ehhh, close enough".

>>6116926
Sorry english is not my first language and I forgot to proofread that.

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Carnifex is cool for people that dig the aesthetic but give me this version of Overlord anyday.

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Getting preemptively disappointed in kultur is cool and all, but let's take a second to consider the real question of our age: when are we gonna get more along the lines of steelcore?

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>>6116940
Seriously, he's thiiiis close to being perfect. I'd instabuy something similar with modern articulation.

I just made out like a bandit, Fansproject Code and Smart Robin for 90usd. Feels good man

>>6116938
If he had an option to attach the nosecone to his forearm I'd be interested.

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>>6116917

Buyers remorse? I dunno. I love Carnifex and I like the looks of Tarn, but I'm also waiting to see what the reviews say on him given the recent stint of MMC stuff having somewhat dodgy quality.

Also MMC's been pretty CHUG-ish with most of their Reformatted line anyway, so I didn't exactly expect spot on accuracy with anything.

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>>6116940
>>6116942
If by along the lines you mean original characters here you go.

Except unlike Steel Core they're not very good.

>>6116897
>the super ultra evil supervillains that worship megatron that nobody knows where they come and where they go and even megatron had no control of them and they'll even kill megatron for failing to uphold megatron's ideals
>something special

oh, it's "special" alright.
up there with
>hi, we're the silent moral majority that left cybertron before the war started and now we're back and we get to decide who gets to run the planet and we're going to blame the autobots for megatron's war and vote for starscream as supreme dictator for life despite not knowing what he or bumblebee have done for for the past few millenia while we were off jerking off in the land of irrelevance
and
>optimus has to always be wrong no matter how good his intentions because it would be unrealistic for him to not be a giant fuckup, but it's fine for megatron whom we've played up into literal hitler to have a magic change of heart and be a remorseful good guy

an anticlimax is about all you should expect from these guys, they're not much better than hasbro's own writers.

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>>6116975

They've put out some good stuff.

Prime always being wrong though is kind of bullshit. I understand not wanting him to be infalliable, but they went from "not always right" straight into "jesus fucking christ everyone around you is retarded and every time you tell them to do anything they do the opposite and you get blamed for it".

>>6116962
I don't really think it's too much to ask for both. I totally understand the slavish devotion to 30 year old designs, but getting pretty much only that is disappointing as hell at the same time. Especially after the umpteenth optimus or dinobot nobody asked for.

>>6116982

>CottonHill.jpg

>>6114966
>Poseidon looks great engineering wise, holy fuck this color scheme is atrocious though, saving me 600+ dollarydoos, wew lad

>see this, feel a sudden wave of horror for my wallet

>>6116942
those hips look horrible

>>6116975
>>6116975
fucking shit is so fucking retarded, almost as bad as brainstorms shit betrayal plot

>>6116975
It's shit like this that has soured Me from IDW's comics. People shit on Furman's writings, but I've read his UK G1, his US G1 and G2 stuff, his DW stuff, and his IDW stuff and found most it pretty good. That's a long list of enjoyable Transformers comics compared to IDW's stuff post Furman. The only thing I enjoyed after they got rid of Furman was Last Stand.

>>6117140

Honestly, the IDW stuff has it's ups and downs like any other comic. Comics are generally a revolving door of writers and artists and some stories end up gold, while others end up shit.

Only reason why people are ragging on the end of the current season is because it was the last bad bit of writing in recent memory. Right now, the comics have been pretty decent again.

I've been out of the loop for literally years and while i'm doing some research myself, i wouldn't mind some more specific spoonfeed...

Which are the currently cheapest yet decent enough 3rd party figures, sticking to those who are already released, available, and at least inspired by official characters?

And, is the Wei Jiang MPP10 worth it for about 120$?

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>>6117188

Any characters you like specifically? I mean, the cheapest are probably pic related, but if you don't like Arcee or Windblade or very tiny figures you ain't gonna like these.

>>6117196
Mostly G1 main characters, Optimus, Inferno, Wheeljack, Grimlock, Starscream, Overlord, Sixshot, and others, plus combiners like Devastator, Bruticus, Menasor, Computron.
And yeah, no tiny figures.

>>6117188
>And, is the Wei Jiang MPP10 worth it for about 120$?
On that matter, what about other KO MP figures(i guess they count as 3rd party too), like the Takasa Tony MP20 Wheeljack for about 30$, or others? How's the quality on theeir own, and how does it compare to the originals?
Reading some customer reviews it seems they're exceptionally good and very close(if not better?) than the originals, but i'd rather ask you guys to be sure.

>>6117211

Decent combiners are few and far between. MMC's Feral Rex is the best Predaking, TFC's mostly released Seacon's are probably the best Seacon's we'll see unless another company does them, best Devy is probably GT's.. Best Sixshot I think is MMC's Hexatron (but if you prefer a more MP or G1 aesthetic for him theres a few out/coming out now like Hanzo).

Overlord is pretty much MMC's Carnifex who is amazing, or wait to see if that G1 styled one made by...Uh...I forget who. Turns out any good. It's not out yet and probably won't be for a while.

Best Optimus is still probably MP-10, or maybe Striker Manus if you don't want a G1 one. Inferno's best is probably the new MP, Wheeljack's best again is probably the MP. Starscream, you're shit out of luck unless you like the War For Cybertron one, in which case there was a good one released like 2 weeks ago by Planet X. Same with Grimlock, the WFC/FoC one by Planet X, but he's harder to find since he's kind of "old" now.

>>6117217
I guess i'll have to skip on the combiners for now as they're really too expensive(as a whole) as of now for me.

>Hanzo
This one looks nice and relatively cheap.

>Best Optimus is still probably MP-10
>Wheeljack's best again is probably the MP
Regarding those, my question was more about if the KO ones(Wei Jiang MPP10 for 120$ and Takasa Tony MP20 for 30$, but i see there are others to around 30-40$) are worth the money on their own and how they compare to the originals, if it is true that they're actually very good KO almost indistinguishable from the originals(except a few negligible details).

I don't see a KO MP Inferno though, that's sad.

>>6116253
Easier said than done, my friend. It'll be much harder with your new president since I live in Turkey. Granted, I'm not even a muslim but still. Simply getting a visa will be a problem in the near future.

>>6117234

KO's tend to vary a lot. Some will be better than others. But a lot of them are going to be really dependent on the one you yourself end up getting. Some people get them and they're fine, others end up with a waste of $30. Such is the nature of KO's.

>>6117234
>I guess i'll have to skip on the combiners for now as they're really too expensive(as a whole) as of now for me.

Oh, and yeah, combiners are hugely expensive. Thats never going to change really, and usually the ones that you see going for cheaper are the ones that are raw shit.

>>6117246
I see, kind of expected actually, but i asked because as far as it goes for MP KO, except from very minor issues like very small smudges on paint application, or slightly looser joints that are still perfectly and easily fixable, i have yet to see a video review which complains about the quality considering the KO as a waste of money, and almost no consumer reviews below near top score(4/ or 4.5/5, 8/10 or 9/10 and so on).
I guess everyone is lucky getting the best KO, or the people who get the bad ones never do reviews at all.

>>6117250
Yeah, 100-120 for a single figure is not that much, but when you have to get all 5 or 6 of them it becomes really expensive and not worth it if you're short on money.

>>6116627
Thunderblast is cute. CUTE!

>>6116889
The comics are shit and hated by most transformer fans, like, orders of magnitude more than bayformers.

Just be ready to be hated for knowing if overlord or brainstorm was the real decepticon agent

>>6117250
The tfc road caesar will be pretty cheap considering its a 3 man team. 90 per figure.

>>6116916
Frankly, I think after Dark Cybertron the editors probably said 'Fuck it' and decided to have a hands off approach to Roberts to avoid having to deal with his rabid tumblr fanbase. That's why the mandated crossover stuff (Titans Return, Revolution) only peripherally involve MTMTE and S2 was a meandering mess.

>>6116831
>It's "shit" in the sense that it's quite inaccurate to the design and very rushed looking

>>6116900
>The same way they screwed up a lot of things on the figure, I guess. No reason to invest in more money when it'd sell enough units.

I will never get why people call him bad or rushed looking. It's like it's just the same sperglord over and over again.

>>6117148

I have the sinking feeling I'm buying both this and Generation Toys. It's an impressive rubix cube.

>>6117268
Fansproject Deluxe insecticons are always a cheap 3 pack.

Also Toyworld's Searchlight is always $25-$30.

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>>6117731

And for reference I keep forgetting to post this.

>>6117605
>It's like it's just the same sperglord over and over again.
I doubt that only because I checked the forums and even MMC's facebook feed what new pictures for it were shown and reactions have been mixed every where. But the negative reactions on all those places have pretty much been the same: always about the face or the proportions of the figure. Even after we saw this newer updated one. And if you didn't see the hate the Sark one we first saw got you have no idea how many people will come out to bitch about one figure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygqMq6VGc0Q

Not-Tarn review. At least, if you can understand what he's saying, anyway. And if you can, translate for the rest of us who don't speak whatever.

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>>6116612
I feel like these two fem-dinobots will be clearanced eventually. They're original characters, and the toys are pretty lackluster. But...I'm a sucker for Dinobots...

I have a feeling I should just wait on getting them. I'm interested, but not 80+shipping interested.

Why are they so expensive anyway? They're barely Deluxe sized, and it's not like there's a ton of engineering involved in their molds.

Does FansProject really think they'll sell solely because they have tits?

>>6116235
He probably is though - he's confirmed as a Point One Percenter.

Been fucking around with Striker Manus for a bit, already seeing a stress mark here and there. Just giving a heads up to anyone who has or plans on getting him:

For anyone who gets him (or Noir), I highly advise just ignoring the last step of the instructions (where you slip the adjustable tabs in his legs into the back of the oil barrels), it's an unsecured fit (as the legs can rotate and put stress) and is a venue for putting stress on the bar that holds the barrel. Just glad I caught it early rather than much later.

>>6117965

That doesn't mean they've got loadbearer capabilities though-Which is what lets people use bigger bodies than they normally could. FortMax is supposed to be one in addition to being a point one percenter, but no one knows his actual upper limit (or if we'll actually see him ever become biggus hugeimus, outside of that one time where he sort of but not really piloted a dead titan).

>>6118032
>FortMax is supposed to be one in addition to being a point one percenter
Fort Max is never hinted at being a loadbearer and in fact when Prowl is talking about the strongest cybertronians he mentions Max but only "on a good day", so he's strong but apparently he's not even Optimus-level powerful as far as spark strength goes.

>>6117806
i don't know what you guys have been whining about. not-tarn looks just as good as not-vos and not-kaon, the only problems can be solved with a replacement head or just a bit of silver on the hidden face

>>6117806
really wish they had figured out a way to have the eyes show through the mask, the dead black eyes unless you take the mask off is somewhat disappointing
at least everything else seems ok so far

>>6118128

They could've just molded recessed eyes into the mask itself and painted them, I guess.

>>6118138
would putting like foil over the back of the mask work and I could paint it myself? dont know if that would hold up though

MMC has the only comic rodimus in the works, right? I can't stand the look of that one, and I'm very close to pulling the trigger on the springer repaint.

>>6118183
Why not dx9 carry?

>>6118183

Get the new MP. Literally the best Hotrod figure ever made, man.

>>6118200
>>6118210
They're both g1 though, I'm looking for comic. The g1 design never clicked with me.

>>6118219

Oh. Yeah, the MMC is the only announced one. I'm sure if you give Iron Factory enough time though they'll spit out a comic Hotrod.

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>>6118219
SXS Toys is also doing an MTMTE Rodimus.

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quick opinion question. What do think of painting fans projects code's faceplate orange? I'm torn between keeping it red or making it more accurate.

>>6118241
Keep it red.

Are there any downsized KOs of the MP Seekers yet?

>>6118240
Oh hey, that's actually pretty nice. I googled it and the altmode is a little stupid, but I've overlooked worse. Hopefully he's on track.

>>6118241
Maybe a darker orange

>>6118267
>>6118247
I guess don't mess with what ain't broke. I think I'll just stick with it as is. thanks!

Fuck yeah IF Ginrai finally shipped.

>>6118359
It's about time

>>6118359
I really wanted to get him and not elita one but I'm on a tight budget, decided to skip him and wait for IF not six shot instead.
Hope I won't regret that later

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Guys I am contemplating getting Third party stuff maybe twice a year. Going to start with this...any thoughts?

>>6118917
If you like the lightcycle, vic viper and so on alkt modes, grab them

If you want a better Computron team, get warbotron's version and find a predaking in the interim.

>>6118917
I've never owned it but I always hear it is either
>a floppy QC mess
or
>a great combiner
Never an inbetween

>>6118917
I like Quantron a whole lot. Chances are if you're into the look of it you'll like it. Mine is very solidly built also.

>>6118917

Ugly as shit, poorly made. Get UW Computron over that trash.

Buy a better 3P product with all the money you saved.

>>6118917
Ugly overpriced garbage. UW computron is way better.

Speaking of Quanton, how's Giant? I love the look of the combined mode and it scales with CW stuff fine.

>>6118941
>>6118945
Samefagerino

>>6118951
>both posts made less than a minute apart
>samefag
Newfagerino

>>6118946
He's much better than Quantron. Probably the best 3P devy. I'd get that instead if I were you.

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>>6118951
>they have the same opinion
>it must be the same person

>>6118946
I used to own a Giant and recently upgraded to Gravity Builder.

Both have their ups and downs. Gravity Builder is bigger, more detailed, has less partsforming and better individual robots. Transformation has a lot of smaller steps for really minor things which makes it over all a more complex set.

Giant has much simpler transformations which makes it a bit more intuitive and if you get the green version (and honestly why wouldn't you) you can form a massive hammer out of the individual weapons instead of a gun. He also feels a little more solid in combined mode even if his joints are a tad looser. I can't speak for others but the Not-Longhaul in my set had issues balancing and articulation was spotty across the individual bot modes.

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>>6118951
Screenshot for proof i guess but ill third that rec, go for UW Computron with an upgrade kit and use the money saved for other cool stuff

If ur dead set on it its not a horrible purchase, but its not amazing

>>6118917
I don't know if it had a V2 that had better QC but mine was a floppy piece of shit and I have no regrets about selling it.

How much is the Xovergen Trailerforce Masterarmor on the aftermarket nowadays? And how was it?

>>6118985
Never had flop issues with mine, weird.

>>6118917
I have this and I like it a lot. Not sure what the hate's about.

>>6118985
Mine was never floppy but it did feel pretty scary transforming it. So many parts felt like they could snap at any moment.

>>6118917
It's overall solid EXCEPT the Sonic Drill figure which is a pain in the nuts to transform.

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>>6116612
Definitely some weird decisions were made with the two.

Looking at their tails reminded me a lot of Dragon Caesar's tail. That begs the question: why could they have not just made their tails into gigantic lance's for the little ladybots? The tails look like they're meant to poke somebody's eye out, so why not give it to them? Instead of the more generic weapons fare, give them each a staff that their tail will plug onto in robot mode.

As for the head, I think they should have reengineered it to look like robot ponytails. Like the way optibotimus showed how he kept Dino heads reminded me of a giant braided pony tail. If they played proportions, engineering, and joint integration, they could have had a robotic, braided ponytail that could have made them look pretty dynamic in action poses.

As for the hands, they should have just let them rest behind the arms. They curve behind the firearms nicely already. On their shoulders, they don't feel much better than kibble. At most, rework the Dino hands so that they hug the forearm more snuggly.

Overall I think they are ideas that could have made alright 3P Transformers, but over-thinking and under-thinking in certain spots put them down.

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Got this guy. Paint has parts that are disconcertingly sloppy and would give bobo nightmares, but I think mine fared better than what people are reporting with splotches, out of lines, scratches, and shit like fingerprints in the paint. His legs are really interesting but hold all his problems as a robot. Namely very limited knee bend, weird-but-accurate feet with little swivel, and the feeling like the whole knee assembly is going to explode when you do use the bend. The rest of the joints are great and the upper body is properly poseable and have great shoulder range. You might need to move the cardoors on the arms to get at the wrist swivel though. He's a handsome bot and the alt mode is fucking ace aside form the aforementioned paint. The backpack doesn't even flop around like Disorder but still isn't really properly secured. It's just those legs fuck up any decent posing your're going to get under the figure's own power. If they just pushed up the leg assembly on a dedicated joint which got to 90 degrees it would have been great. As it stands I can't even get it to 45 degrees.

/blogpost

>>6118917

Get the shadow fisher kit if you go with it. They're best in vehicle mode or combined with the kit. I like three of them in bot mode (Scattorshot, Nosecone, and Strafe) but the other two look wonky. The giftset has three Q/C problems but they should come with replacement parts. One for the torso waist ratchet being off a notch, one for Lightspeed's head balljoint being deformed, and replacement lights for Nosecone. Also limited combiner kneebend. The individual releases that came later have the fixes applied. I really like it over the CW stuff I feel is trash, but hey that's me.

>>6119041
>/blogpost

Talking about /toys/ you bought on /toy/ isn't a blogpost, bro.

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Got my payment request for this, it'll be my first "premium" ko

>>6119041
What a smoll head

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>>6116612

>>6119034

>take the lance idea for the tail
>have the robot arms folded to the back holding the bit with the hands being covered by the tail. It would transform with the lance in one or both hands ala animated prime.
>Have the dino arms as their own dedicated limb assembly that fold up behind the torso/shoulders to create the pauldron look.
>Make the dino head split, fold down on an assembly to fit more on the back and compress as much as possible and have the head kibble peak over the shoulder from the side.
Head/neck kibble lfits into taps that lock into alt mode arms on the back.

There I fixed it. Pic related. I put as much effort into the drawling as FP did.

>>6118240
Why the long face

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>>6117750
Am I wrong for loving the toony aesthetics of the upgrade kit version? I think the Optimus on the left really evokes the original "that" design, but my pic related really feels like Roches interpretation, which I personally loved.

>>6119175

>Make an upgrade kit that tosses half the figure in the trash and covers another 25% of the toy after that
>Still leave the basic hole-fists

I TRIED SO HARD

>TCP has Sovereign in stock
>Not on the featured items page
>Not on the new arrivals page
>Not on the front page
>You have to go to page three in the FansToys product listing to find it

Does TCP have a problem with FansToys?

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Any day now...

Sup /3pg/, I'm considering picking up the Fansproject Servo DX edition, but all reviews I've seen are nothing but praised shilling but don't flat out say "It's one of the greatest things ever", are there any flaws with the figure or something?

>>6119309
Its a pretty boring figure, its just another grimlock. The accessories are sick though.

>>6119325
I'm okay with that actually, I don't have any Grimlocks

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>>6118917
Ok, I will pass on this one....I think I am more interested in non character ripoffs. I just like guys
who are more independent.

Any suggestions?

>>6119473
If you're talking third party ocs, then Fansproject Steelcore and the Glacialbots are really your only route.

>>6119294
>half the figure
>literally just the old feet (which were just shitty little flaps anyway) and the crotch/upper thighs

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>>6119309
I have Severo and like him. He does have some flaws though, his T-Rex mode kind of blows and his arms don't lock into place in robot mode. But I love his beefy robot mode and his accessories (throne, crown and huge ass Targetmaster hammer) are awesome.

>>6119673

Do you have any of the other FP Dinobots? How are they? I like the looks of them, and they're not as expensive as all of the MP versions.

>>6119711
Not him but I've got all but the fembots from FP.

I dunno, I do like them but I feel like FPs dinobots have been a strong start that just keeps declining.

Columpio showed the real potential the line had. Great design and articulation that fit nicely with updated CHUG aesthetics in both modes. He had kibble but that's to be expected (to the point of being necessary)from the Dinobots at this point just because of their iconic designs and it doesn't really get in the way of anything at all so that's cool. Transformation was a little tight in some places but generally simple and fun and at no point did it ever feel like you were at risk of breaking anything. Really, my only complaint with him comes from his legs. They look decent enough but the shape still feels a little off and I wish they could have found something better to do with the dino hind legs than just hang them off of the calves. Still, a really solid first start.

Cubrar took a few steps forward in some places and a few steps back in others but overall, was still pretty great. Once again, aesthetics and designs of both modes just knocked it out of the park and articulation was great in both modes. The transformation was actually really neat, especially with the hind legs in dino mode becoming the feet in robot mode. Transformation is also where the biggest downside is, in that while there are some great ideas there, it's ultimately made not fun because of how many colliding panels and tight fits you have to make. Dino to bot isn't so bad but the reverse is downright frustrating sometimes, plus, you need to have the knees bent perfectly in order to get the rear end to actually hold together. It's also just a touch scary in some places because it does seem like you might force something too much and snap it. Still, overall a great figure.

>>6119867

How's Not-Swoop? Would you recommend trying to pick these guys up in general?

>>6119867 (cont.)
Volar is where the decline begins. Alt mode was actually a really nice change of pace, going for a more "realistic" approach instead of the box with wings we're used to for Swoop. It's articulated well enough to do the "walking on its wings" pose we're used to seeing from pteradons so that's pretty cool too. Bot mode also looks pretty decent and is well articulated. Transformation is where it comes out not so great. There's one or two ok ideas in there but the rest of the transformation is pretty unspectacular and even lazy in some places. For instance, the robot arms just hang super visibly from the back of dino mode and the only transformation is to bend the elbows, fold the forearms, and stuff them back there. He's not bad and has things going for him but he's not as strong as the first two.

Then we have Severo. He's not awful, just really disappointing. Engineering and transformation are kinda wonky. It has mostly what you'd expect from Grimlock but goes about it in ways that just seem off. Aesthetics are there for a CHUG style figure but seem a little off from the rest of his crew. I kinda hate his legs because they never really feel like they're in a natural position, partially because of where joints are in his knees and feet, and partially due to his tail lines giving the illusion that things are at an angle. I appreciate not going with the by-the-books G1 dino mode but what we got just doesn't work that well. The upper portion just feels too scrawny for a t-rex and that's exacerbated by the fact that he has a major fat ass that is completely immobile. Everything about his tail end comes off as lazy, though maybe part of that is me being spoiled from having PX Vulkan first. His dino mode legs try but they really fall flat with articulation and it's a major bummer that his hands are visible in dino mode. Severo should have been the pinnacle of the FP dinobot team but he just doesn't cut it and squeaks by as barely ok.

>>6119884
Hard to say. I'm still overall happy with them and I intend to finish the line off when not-Snarl comes out but I kinda wish I went with one of the CHUG style teams when I had the chance. Probably would have gone with GCreation instead but Wrath is not an easy find these days.

If you like how they look, I'd say they're still a decent by but just keep your expectations curbed a little when it comes to Swoop and Grimlock. I loved Sludge and Slag but Swoopt didn't exactly impress and Grimlock was disappointing, and when Grimlock ends up as the weakest member of the team, it really hurts the group as a whole, IMO.

Few things I forgot to mention:
Swoop comes with an extra blue torso if that's your thing and swapping it is easy enough so that's a plus. You don't have to buy a whole second figure like the other Dino-nots.
Scale might not be an issue for you but it does bug me a bit when all of them are the same size and height. Just feels off having Slag as tall as Sludge, especially with how bulky he is and Swoop being as tall as everybody, including Grimlock.

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I know I'm late in the game, but I didn't know this morning that he comes really soon... And pre-orders sold out everywhere... So what are my options at this point if I wanted to purchase MMC Kultur?

>>6119957

Wait until someone has him in stock really. I'm sure MMC knows he's going to be popular. Shit, Cynicus is getting another run even.

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>>6119957

Yeah i missed out on him too. I'm sure he'll turn up on ebay soon.


As someone who just started collecting 3P this year, will I be super disappointed by regular Hasbro stuff if I buy any?

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>>6119976

I collect both, so I guess it all depends on how you like your toys. I mean, it's hard to pass up $15 Deluxes and $10 Legends.

>>6119976
That all depends on the 3rd party stuff you're buying. For example, I bought Fansproject's Code ages ago, and thought he was alright, but then Hasbro come out with their Chromedome, and god that figure is waaaaaay better than Code.

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>>6119991

A lot of TR has come out ridiculously good though. A little bit of both seems to be the balance for myself.

>>6119976
Ultimately depends on how much you pay attention to build quality. Hasbro is mostly hollow shit so you'll feel the difference in build quality. From an outside perspective, it's not so bad, but between the poor quality that leads to easy-breakage, in addition to just.. generally being poor quality sculpts, it's generally a crapshoot even touching Hasbro stuff.

My personal dealbreaker is ankle tilts. Don't have any on the figure? Fuck off, it's cheap shit I can't even pose worth a damn.

>>6120022
>My personal dealbreaker is ankle tilts. Don't have any on the figure? Fuck off, it's cheap shit I can't even pose worth a damn.
Fuck you, I'm hyped for Tengu.

>>6114761
I know what you mean, I got bit a bit by the 3P bug. At the moment I'm just waiting for Toyfair to see if I'll be happy settling for TR Overlord compared to Carnifex.

>>6119982
>>6119991
>>6120006
>>6120022

Well, Domey is deffo one I like the look of, Wolfwire, TopSpin, Bumblebee (car mode looks chunky af) Trigger Happy, Getaway.

Any of you guys got these?

Also Super Ginrai Powermaster price hikes on ebay are fuckin horrendous. Damn Zipperheads

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>>6120053
>Any of you guys got these?

All of those actually. Except Getaway. He's just a Chromedome repaint with a new head and I really didn't care enough about him to pick up, especially since places are charging MORE for him since he's shortpacked for more popular characters.

Can't wait for the 3P Repugnus and Doublecross though. I hope they turn out good.

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>>6120053
Outside of Topspin because I'm a Burgerlander, I have those.

>>6120053
>>6120108
Also, Wolfwire has questionable qc. I've seen some samples that are perfect even after being roughhoused, others that have stressed hinges and cockpit frames, usually because of the softer plastic right next to them. A yellow plastic hinge on mine disintegrated with minor handling, seen in the image (the soft plastic red hinge halves compensate), although I'll probably replace it anyways because some of the paint in robot mode is shitty on my copy.

>>6120123
My hinge broke too, but I think the red parts are safe. It looks like the yellow doesn't have *quite* enough clearance so if anything catches you end up just prying it apart, but around the red part of the hinge it looks like it has more room.

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>>6120123
>>6120135

Oddly enough, the hinge on mine is fine. TR QC is all over the place. I almost wonder if MMC is using the same damn factory Hasbro is with the way Not-Lockdown turned out.

>>6120155
>Jaegertron
Fuck, that release makes me chuckle sometimes.

Hasbro's QC is hilarious. I see reports of Skullsmasher's hips being loose as fuck, and even that one gif of him freely spinning from a thigh swivel, but I pick him up as soon as I find him in stores, and he's sufficiently tight.

>>6120161
My Skullsmasher had some serioulsy loose hips and fairly loose thighs, luckily those are like the easier qc problems to fix..

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>>6120161

Yeah, Skullcruncher, mine at least, had seriously floppy legs. Futureshine fixed him right up.

Kinda sad to see MMC in this weird decline state. Hopefully they get it back together fast, I love their stuff.

>>6120185
Impactor is easily my favorite transforming robot toy by a mile, he's got the looks, moves, and plastic tolerances. It's really weird seeing a lot of their new stuff shit the bed when he was a hit in all fronts.

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>>6120198

I wanted to pick him up at some point, but by the time I had the money to, he was sold out. I hope he gets another run at some point. Or something.

>>6120098
How do you like the legends Gnaw? I always look for him in the store, but never find him.

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>>6120217

Love him. Fits in pretty well with any other Legends. He's not perfect, but he seems like a love-or-hate figure.

>>6120226
Can his mouth open and close in alt mode?

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>>6120234

It can close almost the entire way, and open very wide.

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>>6120239
You did this.

>>6120263
These bastards cost me $200 when they convinced me to buy Carnifex, you got off lucky (though Carnifex was worth every penny and I love him).

>>6117422
Most fans are either indifferent or like the comics. Only a small percentage HATE the comics like you do.

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>>6120267

Worth every penny.

>>6120270

The only thing I see consistently hated is the movies. Which, far as I'm concerned, is pretty well earned.

>>6115306
It's not like that face is any different from the one we saw in the comic anyway.

>>6119300
I'm hoping this ends up the same size as MMC's IDW Megatron. I'll bite then.

>>6120281
I hate that it looks so DAMN good, because it's nearly twice as big as it needs to be.

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>>6120290

Isn't he in scale (roughly) with Voyagers?

How is MT Cross Dimensions Rioter? Any known issues?

It's really hard to trust reviewers now a days with them shilling hard for free stuff.

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>>6120387
Its in the top 10 this year for sure.

I personally do not have any issues with mine, and have not heard anyone else have anything bad to say about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticLW7Zb8vU

A review for GCreations Not-Optimus. Hope you can understand it.

>>6120390
fantastic smoke effects
this your pic?

>>6120396
I feel like GCreations could make a legit Bayformer without sacrificing too much accuracy. This figure looks pretty good, but I'd be afraid I'd snap something.

>>6120495

Yeah, a bunch of panels attached to a thin plastic skeleton would have me on edge the entire way. It looks alright, but just looking at it makes me anxious that I'd hamhand something.

>>6120387
He looks a tiny bit rough from the back? That's literally the only critique I can come up with. Gun mode is pretty solid when properly transformed, robot form is fan-fucking-tastic. I'm not keen on how the upper arms generally look when posed at certain angles (as you can see the engineering work underneath the pauldrons), but that's it. No real issues to speak of. The legs on this fucker are the 10/10 other toys should aspire for.

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>>6120486
>this your pic?
Yeah, its a little hand held smoke machine on amazon.

>>6120387
his arms can be a bit tough to transform due to Maketoys always having super tight tabs, but other than that he's superb. I just hope the metallic plastic holds up over time.

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>>6120396
I've played with so many Transformers at this point that I'm fairly confident that I could design a deluxe or maybe even a voyager class figure but jesus christ, how the fuck do people come up with these transformation schemes? That shit is absolutely mind blowing.

when will Lunar Toys ship Sovereign :(

>>6120396
That might as well be exactly how he transforms in fiction.
Wasn't interested because Optimus Prime fatigue, but dat transformation and clean truck and robot mean i may have to set aside funds.
I have no idea how anyone can sit down and design that.

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>>6120396
Nice to see GC have improved with their first non dino release.

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Anyone know if any of the other constructicons have been ko'd?

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>>6120648
Gawd, that's just terrible.

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No. He's supposed to be around as tall as Ultra Magnus, and only a head or so taller than Tarn, but he towers over both of them by a huge margin. His size when fighting the Autobots in Last Stand was exaggerated for dramatic effect. You'll see he's significantly smaller standing next to Shockwave and the other Predators in the same book.

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>>6120801

>>6120801
>>6120806

I'll chalk that up to comics cheating their asses off about relative sizes all the time.

>>6120571
Never, John Lunar just messaged me saying the Sovereign shipment was lost at sea.

>>6120806
I do wish Kultur had been bigger honestly.

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The Last Knight Masterpiece Bumblebee

APOLOGIZE

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>>6120396

>Dat painstaking effort to layer and hide all the small details so it lines up with the art
>dat moment he pans the figure around after opening up the cab to showcase the arcane magic that is the entire fucking torso assembly
>dat satisfying as fuck layering when the back panels angle to make room for the backpack to fold in and layer on top of the chest.

There are no shortcuts on this thing. Everything gets from truck to robot exactly how it is in the art. All except the fake grill and the trailer hitch. The grill is acceptable given how it magically deforms, but I'm 50/50 on the hitch just popping off. The vehicle mode truck bed is a little dicey but is solid enough to get the job done.

Gcreations is pretty much just making the art and popping it off the comic pages and making it work as a figure by any means necessary. That's no small feat and the end result still being able to be that clean and articulate is impressive.

Generation Toy takes all the elements of the comic design and applies more a more traditional Optimus beefy proportions to make a good toy representation. While not as detailed and accurate to the concept art, it makes the most of being less complex by being a lot more solid and clean in both modes.

God fucking dammit I just wanted one to be shit so I had an excuse to get the other. GT still has a chance to bungle it I guess.

>>6120915
wrong thread

>>6120915

Wrong thred.

But I do have a question. After all those years and all those BB molds have they found a way for him to do anything else with the windshield but wear it as a backpack?

>>6120396
That torso transformation has me erect.

>>6120806
GOD Overlord interacting with Tarn was awful, like why the fuck was he wrote into that arc

>>6121013
I agree he didnt belong in that arc at all but I loved the fuck out of their childish dick waving while Megatron escaped. And then of course Overlord teabagging Tarn, come on that was great.

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>>6121021
IMO that was the only good thing that came out of that arc. I love Overlord and that's how I always dreamed he and Tarn would interact. I never thought I'd actually get to see it.

The only bad thing is that we didn't get to see more, but maybe that's all right because Roberts won't drag it out to the point where it's not fun anymore.

>>6121038
>The only bad thing is that we didn't get to see more, but maybe that's all right because Roberts won't drag it out to the point where it's not fun anymore.
I'm still buttmad at him for fucking up the ending to that arc so badly. Overlord is still alive so that would have meant more shenanigans in the future but with the DJD dead, that's it for them. I wanted more, so much more, fuck you Roberts.

>>6121070
Make up your own stories you dummy. Fuck the lore

>>6121073
I can't write for shit my man. I guess I could commission people for anything I want though, but it's not the same without art, and when you factor that in, it's starting to become a pretty big undertaking.

>>6120530

Will this damage the toys in the long run?

>>6121080
>not using your toys to come up with stories
>not playing with your toys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKIS0TUQ6D8

An english Kultur review.

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>>6121136
Me going 'pew pew pew' with my toys and throwing that at each other might be fun for me but I don't know how much of a story that is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ticLW7Zb8vU

That transformation is crazy. I look forward to Bobo Skellington struggling with it.

>>6120396
So what's the latest I could actually buy this thing? I just spent a shitload on post-holiday splurging but I really want this guy.

>>6121205
>>6120396
Also what's the best place to buy him? I heard BBTS is bad juju.

>>6121216
TFSource is pretty solid, though lately they've been taking a bit longer to get product in stock. Still generally less time than BBTS takes though.

>>6121111
>Will this damage the toys in the long run?
Maybe if I soaked the figures in the smoke juice, but a few seconds for pics isn't going to hurt anything. I mean, its safe enough to breath so......

>>6121223
>TFSource is pretty solid
TFS shill please go. TFSource is pretty much universally hated. They take forever to ship, and the routinely mark things as in stock when they dont actually have any product in hand so that they can catch the first rush of people.

>>6121216
>Also what's the best place to buy him?
Any of the smaller retailers will charge less, give you free shipping, and provide better customer service. IE The chosen prime, GCI Toys, Toy Dojo, ect.

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>>6121160

>>6121223
Someone is so new he doesn't remember TFS customers getting their credit cards infos stolen. Twice.

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>>6121386
>>6121515
>tfw Kultur sold out everywhere but TFSource still had him so I preordered him from there not knowing all of their awful bullshit

I guess I should just cancel that credit card after I get Kultur since they have it on file now.

>>6121216

Never had a problem with BBTS personally, but you are gonna eat shipping if you buy from there.

Also, how the fuck is Kultur sold out EVERYWHERE like this?

Is Tarn really that popular? Never saw an MMC figure not even be available like this before.

>>6120387
Pretty great, I like him a lot more than Striker, though that might be just of my bias for Megatron. The only problem find is the clip on the back, it doesn't sit the best on mine, and in gun mode when holding the scope it doesn't sit perfect there either. But it's passable I'd say. Also wish he had a bit better ab-crunch. Aside from that, especially considering the price, he's damn good for me.

>>6121569

Apparently its an extremely small run and it's the only game in town at the scale. Even if IF manages to pop one out all the other comic oriented lines at a larger scale are either slow as fuck (Manga Mech, SXS) or just starting out (Gcreations, Generation Toy). They're basing sales of the final two dudemclargehuge members based on Kultur as well.

Whether the small run is from factory fuck ups, MMC vastly underestimating demand, or MMC pulling some shit it remains to be seen.

>>6121587

But why do such a small run of a guy they knew would be popular?

>>6121592

We don't know. It could be all they could get out of the factory before CNY or the Nintendo patented artificial shortage. Some stores initially reported that they could only secure single digits to order so preorders were sold out instantly. PSX seemed to have many more come in stock than what they took for preorders before they sold out.

>>6118917
I have this set too. All the figures, except maybe Sonicdrill, are fucking great. The combined mode does actually seem a little thin from the side and I've yet to pick up the add-on kit to fill him out a bit.

Might go with their Defensor, I've heard nothing but great things about him.

Okay, so if Severo isn't that great of a Grimlock figure, which one is highly suggested? The only Grimlocks I own are the RID Grimlock toys

>>6121798

Planet X Grimlock is great.

new >>6121832

>>6121216
What's wrong with BBTS? I mean they're not the best, but I like them because I've had some QC on figures and they helped me right out no sweat.

>>6121945
Different stories for different people, I never had issues with them, but they are by no means the only online toy store to shop from